1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Busies. Sure koc is o TC leader fan Fan Radio 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: Network and k f a N dot com. We'll go 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: with two minutes and we'll call it twenty seconds past 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: the hour three o'clock Central Standard time. Welcome back Monday 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: edition of the A Bumper to Bumper program, and we 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: are delighted you are along for today's I'm assuming three 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: and a half hour ride, three and a half hour tour. 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Burrero and Guardzi will be with you. We will be 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: with you until then. Bradshawn Brian Kfin text line will 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: be rebooted shortly, and that, of course that number is 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: six four six six or six eight six. There were 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: so many dimensions to wild Card weekend, which is not 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: quite done tonight right here on the fan. Maybe the 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers are hosting as underdogs. I believe the Houston Texans, correct, 15 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: aren't the Texans favor they are? I think by three 16 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: hockey tonight on the Fan that game will be on 17 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: the plus. Oh, the playoff GA will be on the plus. Yep, 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: not that the Wild will be on the plus. Correct. Faldness, 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: his teeth would fall out if we ever announced that 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: the that the Wild were on the plus. Even though 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: The Plus is a wonderful brand. It's great as far 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. Good reminder there, and good for the 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: hockey ambassador to know that the wild will be back 24 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: in action tonight. Many dimensions to the game Wildcard weekend 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: game matching the two NFC North rivals, the Green Bay 26 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: Packers and the Chicago Bears. We explored many of them yesterday. 27 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: They'll probably be explored more today, maybe even for the 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: next few days, given the dimensions potentially of and the 29 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: ramifications of that improbable historic the Chicago Bears comeback. But 30 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: there was one I hadn't really thought of yesterday that does, 31 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: in a sense localize. One could say the story because 32 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: we are your Vikings leader, we are your Minnesota Vikings station. 33 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: We're devastated that the seasonal boost is now over, but 34 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: it is. It's undeniable, correct Koc to me. I know 35 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: we love him. I know he's the quarterback whisperer. I 36 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: know he has helped to build the most nourishing culture 37 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: in all of certainly a National Football League, maybe all 38 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: of pro sports. I don't know, check the athletic survey. 39 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: All that stuff might well be true. But as far 40 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned as of Saturday night about midnight kaoc 41 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: is OTC as in on the clock. It's undeniable. We 42 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: can run from it, but we can't hide. We have 43 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: to acknowledge it. We have to face our fears. We 44 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: have to look it in the face and say, hmm. 45 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: There is one coach in the National Football Conference North 46 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: who has yet to win a single playoff game, not one. 47 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: I hadn't playing that many. But how many years? Was 48 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: this a fourth year? As fifth? I think this was fourth? 49 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Is this year four? Yeah? I think I have the 50 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: numbers right. The suddenly under siege. Matt Lafleur has a 51 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: career playoff record now of three and six. I'm not mistaken, 52 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: and I think that includes the loss Saturday Night. Someone 53 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: will correct me if I'm wrong. Packer haters for sure. 54 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: Not a great record, but three victories. Dan can Bowl 55 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: has a career coaching postseason coaching record of two and two, 56 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: and that's a fact. Hasn't gotten to the Super Bowl yet, 57 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, so I'm not ready to put him in 58 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: Canton yet, but he is won a pair of playoff games, 59 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: and of course Saturday Night. Ben Johnson, in his first 60 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: attempt as a head coach to win a playoff game somehow, 61 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: improbably borderline impossibly has it. Commands orders his team. That's 62 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: good coaching, by the way, you order your team to 63 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: score twenty five points in the fourth cour, Yeah, that's 64 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: a smart move, which I believe is I think second 65 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: or third for a single quarter in the history of 66 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: the postseason. It's some absurd number. And I think they 67 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: became only the fourth team in playoff history to be 68 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: trailing by fifteen or more points in the fourth quarter 69 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: and to win. He's one and all in the postseason. 70 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: That leaves our guy zero and two. And let's be 71 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: honest about something count Can we be frank here today? 72 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: This is the time of year, man, This is it. 73 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: This is what matters. And we can argue about whether 74 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: quarterbacks get too much of the of the credit and 75 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: too much of the blame if they don't win postseason games, 76 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: or what their postseason record is, et cetera, because football is, 77 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: after all, a team game, and a coach is limited 78 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: at times by the talent that has offered him that 79 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: he has to deal, that he has to work with. 80 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: But you could sense it the entire weekend unless you 81 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: totally try to disconnect yourself, which I don't even think 82 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: is possible anymore and would have been a mistake. Five 83 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: games in the books on unfairly you could say Pedestrian 84 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: one last night, But ironically, even that game was a 85 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: one score game until the fourth quarter. I mean it 86 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: wasn't I don't know that you felt like the Chargers 87 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: had to come back in them, but it was nine 88 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: to three, wasn't it? Until they scored a touchdown later? 89 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: And every other game was outstanding, theater, just tremendous, comeback 90 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: after comeback, punch after CounterPunch. There's a reason that the 91 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: ratings go through the roof in the postseason. There's a 92 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: reason when everybody feels as if they're a part of 93 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: something that no other sport can match, where it's where 94 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: you make your name as a team and as a 95 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: head coach. And we haven't done anything in the postseason. 96 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: Not only have we not done anything, we weren't even 97 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: competitive in the game last year, and we lost at 98 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: home to a very beat New York Giants team the 99 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: first playoff game. He had correct, yes, got Daniel Jones' contract. 100 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: We did in effect, So I I think that's got 101 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: to be the mess. If I if I'm the Wilfs. 102 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: That's the message. Love the culture, love a lot of 103 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: things you do. But come on, man, this is this 104 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: is when it feels really good to be connected to 105 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: the National Football League, and there is. It's just factual. 106 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: It can't be denied. One coach in this division left 107 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: now who has not tasted victory in the postseason. And 108 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: to Ben Johnson's credit, he did it first time around 109 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: again in ridiculous fashion. Could you possibly have predicted it 110 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: at the half? I wouldn't have for sure, but he 111 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: clearly has managed to fashion with a second year quarterback 112 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: a you want to talk about quarterback whisperer. Shouldn't that 113 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: be more Ben Johnson right now than koc year two, 114 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: with a quarterback who was much belignd a year ago, 115 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: big time, an offense that was mediocre much of last season. 116 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: They're now doing routinely stuff that. And I can testify 117 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: to this because I grew up little Danny Barrero, grew 118 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: up with the Bears. They're doing things offensively. I mean, 119 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: what they did I mentioned this, unserments. What they did 120 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter yesterday is so far beyond the 121 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: imagination of Little Danny Barrero. It's not even funny. Twenty 122 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: five points in what a quarter? Could I get twenty 123 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: five points in a month? And you're gonna wait a minute, 124 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna do it passing the ball for three hundred 125 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: and what your quarterback's going to make those throws that 126 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: we associate with other teams. So Ben Johnson should feel 127 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: very good about himself. Bears fans should feel very good 128 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: about their team because the first time their coach got 129 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: into the postseason, there they've advanced. They may lose this week, 130 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: but they've already got a victory. So I'm not putting 131 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: the head coach here on double secret probation, but maybe 132 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: I am. I don't know. I want to see it, 133 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: don't you. It stands out now even more that the 134 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: outcome went the way it did in Chicago Saturday. Do 135 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: you say on the clock? I would say, has time 136 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: run out? Well? Yeah? Has Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams? 137 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: Are they taking over the division? They may very well be. 138 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: He looked unbelievable again, They've looked unbelievable all season, and 139 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: he just got there. They haven't been able to build 140 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: the team in his vision yet. No, right, that's correct. 141 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: They I'm sure had some big free agents, especially on 142 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Who knows what's going to go on 143 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: with the Packer Their free agents actually played and didn't 144 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: get hurt and aren't all thirty five years old. Who 145 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: knows how John Harbaugh coaching the Packers next year? Will 146 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: you know fortify them? Is that official? 147 00:09:59,679 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: No? 148 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: Not? 149 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: And even I think there's even a report that they're 150 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: still working things out with Lafleur, so he might be 151 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: coming back. But they're going to be formidable. We know 152 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: that the Lions are probably going to be decent, so 153 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: this could be very scary. And what's the Vikings move? Right, 154 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: it's your move, Vikings. You got to get back into 155 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: the conversation because the division hasn't slowed down yet, no 156 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: I mentioned yesterday. I don't necessarily think there's all great 157 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: teams in the division, but there's no weak teams in 158 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: the division anymore. And the Lions aren't going away. The 159 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Packers still have a lot of ability regards who ends 160 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: up coaching. 161 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: Right. 162 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: The Bears are clearly emerging. Their defense still needs a 163 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: lot of work, but they're emerging, so they're not going 164 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: to go away. So you got you've got to figure 165 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: this quarterback thing. Out this off season. You have to 166 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: one way or the other. There are a couple of 167 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: ideas that have been hatched on the post as a 168 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: result of wild Card weekend. We'll get to those in 169 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: a minute. Wants to give you a shot to win 170 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: bonus bucks. It is back our national cash contest and 171 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: the first keyword of the show this week is dollar. 172 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: Go to kfan dot com and enter the keyword dollar. Hi. 173 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: Here is the guest lineup for today as I understand it. 174 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: You can correct me if I am wrong, But Johnny 175 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: Athletic is scheduled for five thirty this evening. Yes, Sir 176 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: ben Leeber is going to give us some bonus time. 177 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: Even though he asked. We told him he could have 178 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: a few weeks off if he wanted. So he's going 179 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: to join us at his usual time, his customary time 180 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: at four forty seven. Kyle Potter, thrifty Traveler MN is 181 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: going to join us four o'clock. Is that correct for 182 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: it to yep? With the big announcement, big air line 183 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: announcement that has some no small impact here in the 184 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul am I forgetting anybody. 185 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: That's what we have that's what we have right now. Yes, now, 186 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: A couple of people had texted yesterday, are you guys 187 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: going to try to get Gerby going today? I'm skeptical 188 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: that we'd be able to, but stay tuned. Anything's possible 189 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: on our program. We'll let you know if we think 190 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: we have any shot. Obviously there's a lot of shot 191 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: and freuda going on right now when it comes to 192 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: the Packers and Gerby in particular, I do know he 193 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: said changes will be made. 194 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: Well. 195 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: He also vowed that he wasn't going to be on 196 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: with this for the prediction segment Friday because we're going 197 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: to be too mean to him hashtag sadism, very very vicious, 198 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: too mean, and we were not very kind to him 199 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: in a situation like this, like he would be right, 200 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: very gracious, so very gracious. Have you seen the video circulating, 201 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,359 Speaker 1: by the way, it's like ten minutes no, of basically 202 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: every Green Bay Packer podcaster that does like a live 203 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: watch party. Yes, just a synopsis of all of them 204 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: as the games going a yeah, and at first everything's contrast, yes, 205 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: and then at the end of it it's pretty good. 206 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: I didn't get through all of it, it's pretty good. 207 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: It's mean because people are going through it, man, as 208 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: you can imagine, they are absolutely going through it as 209 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: that game is unfolding. But it's very entertaining. And I 210 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: did I listened to your sermons yesterday. I did listen 211 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: to Packer Wine Line on Saturday night. Was it entertaining, Yes, yeah, tremendous. 212 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: And then I did listen to Packer preview, in which 213 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: I thought the fellas did a really good job of 214 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: balancing their raw emotion and frustration with pretty good professionalism. 215 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Here's the way I would put it on and I 216 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: don't want to spend too much time on Packer Wine Line, 217 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: but regarding the future of their head coach, I would 218 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: say that I think he's a good coach. I actually 219 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: do so. I would not be offended if the Packers said, no, 220 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna do some tweaks, and maybe we're 221 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna challenge him on a couple of things, and maybe 222 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna challenge him heavily on a couple of position 223 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: coaching decisions, whatever, but we're gonna hang with him. On 224 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: the other hand, after a monumental choke and collapse that 225 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: is that thorough. I would not have any problem if 226 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: they said that this can't be allowed to stand, we're 227 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to go a different direction, I guess, especially 228 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: if you know a stable, already established head coaches available, 229 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: and there are there's one named John Harbaugh whose name 230 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: keeps coming up. Now they may not be that's the 231 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: only place he's interested in, but that that you lose 232 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: that way, and actually twice really three weeks apart, but 233 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: this time in the postseason. I'm mentioned yesterday that that's 234 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: a hard game to come back and win. It's a 235 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: harder game to lose. That's that's that's really hard to 236 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: lose that game. And he could say, well, it was 237 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: only eighteen points, Dan, Yeah, but it went well beyond 238 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: I think the the eighteen points because in the second 239 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: half you could argue the Bears didn't have the horse shoe. 240 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: The Packers had the horseshoe when it came to leaving 241 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: aside the kicking for a minute, which is a big 242 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: horseho whole thing. Yeah, but just talking about the fumble, 243 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: the available fumbles that the Bears needed badly and didn't 244 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: get the balls they didn't recover. So I'm fine with 245 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: that either way. I there's a lot of very defensive 246 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: Vikings fans who are checking in here reminding me that 247 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: the Vikings were four and two in the division in 248 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Do you want to raise a banner 249 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: to that? Boys and girls? Do you really? And one 250 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: of the victories was the last week when the Packers 251 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: didn't play anybody. I mean, should have been the bearst twice? Yeah, exactly. 252 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: Or on the other hand, the Bears could say, well, 253 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: we should have beat you twice. That's true because the 254 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, we make one more play in the fourth quarter, 255 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: you don't win the game. But nine was there that 256 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: night to open the season. Nine was there that night, 257 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: wasn't he? He was very true? This is this is I mean, 258 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: you can be defense of all you want and you 259 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: can say, well, Caleb Williams was a number one overall pick. 260 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: How much credit you're gonna give the head coach a lot? 261 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: Because if we've learned anything, see, it's funny how the 262 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: whole subject changes. When Caleb was struggling, it was, you 263 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: know what, he might not be the best quarterback in 264 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: that group, after all, there may be some issues. Now 265 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: as he's emerging, it's well, don't forget number one overall pick. 266 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: So which is it. He's obviously talented, but he was 267 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: a mess a year ago. Was that a function of 268 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: experience or was that a function of coaching. I think 269 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: it probably was a little bit of both. I'm just 270 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: telling you, I like the quote that came in from 271 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Jared in Aztec, New Mexico. You want to change the 272 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: conversation win some games. It's the same with all the 273 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: quarterback second guessing. You want your people to stop talking 274 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: about why didn't you lock in with Aaron Rodgers for 275 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: a year? Why didn't you find a way to franchise Darnold, 276 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: Why didn't you find a way to make sure Daniel 277 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: Jones really felt he'd have a shot at the starting position. 278 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: You want all that to go away, have better results 279 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: in your quarterback room. It's as simple as that. I've 280 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: said this from the beginning. If McCarthy had emerged big 281 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: time this season, there'd be a lot less conversation about that, 282 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: in fact, because they say, well, actually, the Vikings are 283 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: ahead because they don't have any money invested. They had 284 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: the advantage of being able to spend the money elsewhere. 285 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: And this kid's young and he's only going to get better, 286 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: but not enough good happened. So when not enough good 287 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: happens to a team or to in the quarterback room, 288 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: then all your other options that this year, the vikings 289 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: happen to have are going to come up. Just the 290 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: way of the world. It's just the way the war. 291 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: That's not just a Minnesota thing, it's the way the 292 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: word works. Same with coaches. If if you're tired of well, 293 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: that's a little unfair to say that, you know he's 294 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 1: owing too. I mean, how much really, how many good 295 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: teams has he really had here? What's his opportunity really been. 296 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: We're happy for those other coaches. If you change the 297 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: subject or you change that the the direction the discussion 298 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: goes one way. You got to win more games in 299 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: the postseason, because, boys and girls, I'm here to tell 300 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: you and I think deep down you know it. January 301 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: on is what really drives this league. Obviously it's successful, 302 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: y're you know from the from September. We get that, 303 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: but this is where the money is really made. This 304 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: is where legends are created. I mean, there were a 305 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: lot of really good comebacks with two minutes to go 306 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: throughout the regular season, but it feels bigger now. Why 307 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: because you lose and you're done home here either and 308 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: the other team is moving on at least hoping that 309 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: they can extend for at least one more week or 310 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: or beyond that. It's it's just a lot bigger and 311 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: we've just had nothing to get excited about in that. 312 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: In that regard, Packers lost five double digit leis and 313 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of this year, Browns Broncos, Bears twice, and 314 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: there was one other one I didn't recall. Maybe the Panthers. 315 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk about that. Yeah, that's 316 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: been part of their issue for sure. They've had some puzzlers. 317 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: Now they are who we think they are. Yeah, and 318 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: they too have been They've been decimated by injury obviously there. 319 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: Who is the guy? They got Michael Parsons out is huge. 320 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean it was almost like the the the passing 321 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: game was built around him until it wasn't because he 322 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: wasn't available. And don't they have offensive line injury issues too. 323 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: Sounds that they did, which again I said this you 324 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: know earlier many times. Everybody has them to a certain degree. 325 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: But I think we gotta get we got a grade 326 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: on a tougher curve. I think we got to get 327 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: past nice guy players seem to like to play for him. 328 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: Atmosphere in there does seem good. It seems that players 329 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: are responsive to him, and he's responsive to players. All 330 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: that sounds wonderful, and I don't want to throw it 331 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: out with the bathwater. But it's a results driven league, 332 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: I think, and that's the unfortunate position that he is 333 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: now in with even the Bears, the Terrible Bears, the 334 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: embarrassing Monsters the Midway now have one more playoff victory 335 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: with their coach and his first time going to the postseason. 336 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Not only that they had home ice. Of course, I 337 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: guess you could say we did two one of the 338 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: two times and we squandered it right right, Yes, So 339 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it can't be this goes. I mean, 340 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: every coach has to deal with this. Who's been here. 341 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: Denny had to deal with it. He lost his first 342 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: three playoff games, one and done three straight years before 343 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: they finally broke through. By the way, we were reminded 344 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: by not Dan Minnesota. Thursday is a very big anniversary. 345 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: Even though we've discussed this particular game before. I think 346 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: it might be twenty five years and twenty five years 347 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: is a big one, is it? The two thousand wasn't 348 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: the NFC title game forty one donut played in two 349 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: thousand and one? Yeah, it's a two thousand season, wasn't it? Yeah? 350 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: I think it was so Thursday twenty five years. Do 351 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: you think Robert Smith has another appearance on our show 352 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: on that subject or do you think he'd say, Dan, 353 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: I've unloaded that game too much. I think we should 354 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: try Mitch Berger, the punter who told us that that's 355 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: a great He and Robert Smith were planning their trip 356 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: to Cabo. It's great. He might have a better sense 357 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: of humor about it. That's a long time. I don't 358 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: think this is a super Bowl week year here. We 359 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: had him at radio that the last time among them. Uh, 360 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: you got to call Gerby. The audience needs to hear 361 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: from him. Is he alive? Is he doing okay? 362 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: Well? 363 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: As I said, I I don't know if we what 364 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: do you think I've tried him at home? I assume 365 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: he's not at work. I could try him at work. 366 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: I guess we could try him. We'll try him at 367 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: some point, right Dan. The problems with the Vikings this 368 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: season we subted up in one word, injuries, especially old line. 369 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Is that a horseshoe thing or a medical training staff problem. 370 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's either. I think it's to some extent, well, 371 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that there's some horseshoe to it, but 372 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: there's also I think we, if we're being honest now, 373 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: have to say it's who you invest your money in 374 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: and in a game that's brutally violent and anybody can 375 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: get hurt at any time. Were you lowering the hot 376 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: the odds of success when you decided to invest in 377 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: slightly older than ideal players to see if they have 378 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: more life in them and that came to kind of 379 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: bite them to a certain extent in the butt. I 380 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: guess that's at all that's possible. Any news on b 381 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: Flaw by the way, other than he's one of like 382 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: thirty coaching candidate head coaching candidates that Baltimore is considering, 383 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Is that right? I think the actual numbers fifteen, right 384 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: it is? Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, half of thirty, 385 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: but still a lot. That's a wide right. Sounds like 386 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: remember when the Twins first It wasn't the Twins first 387 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: list like twenty five or something or eighteen. I think 388 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: it was. We were all supposed to be impressed by that, 389 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: and we ended up with the guy we already knew 390 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: who might be great, and he might some guy everybody 391 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: loves Shelby true. Bottom of our break. I want to 392 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: get back, get to the first UH wild card weekend 393 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: talking point guards He's cooked up several very good ones. 394 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: I My vow is I'm gonna stay connected to the 395 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: postseason with or without the Bears. And then they're the Bears. 396 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: I just I miss it too much, and and this 397 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: weekend has been so good and so compelling that I 398 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: say we gotta we gotta double down on it, even 399 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: if our favorite football team is nowhere to be seen 400 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: and the head coach is the only coach in the 401 00:24:25,560 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: NFC North that doesn't have a single postseason victory. It's 402 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: the nature of fandom, I guess that makes it impossible 403 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: to see, for people to see past their own noses, 404 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: or to assume that because it's the way they think 405 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: and the way they are wired, everybody else thinks the 406 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: same way. Example, I'm just saying, you got to let 407 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: it play out a little bit, beating your chest because 408 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: the Bears won a playoff game. It wouldn't matter to 409 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: me in this case whether it was the Bears or 410 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks back when they were in the division. 411 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: The reminder is, we're the only team that has a 412 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: coach that has not won in the postseason. And he's 413 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: been here in four He's been here four years. Believe me, 414 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: I enjoyed as a guy who grew up cheering for 415 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: the Bears watching Saturday Night. I also got done saying 416 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: they're not ready. Defense is terrible in many of the areas. 417 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: So this isn't about me beating my chest. It's me 418 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: dating the obvious, one could say. But the truth we 419 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: are now left. We have we've we have no more 420 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: interference to deflect from that reality. And you can say, 421 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: well they got a good matchup, or the Packers were 422 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: ready to get beat or all those things. It just 423 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. So that that's the point of 424 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: the discussion. Doesn't matter who the the last remaining coach was, 425 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: who won it and where he coached has absolutely nothing 426 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: to do with it. Are you did you say you 427 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: want to try Gurby one more time? You should? I 428 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: mean we've tried everywhere, we've tried his house. He's not working. 429 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: Does this sell? What do we think? 430 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: So? 431 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: Okay? Because even at a bar. Yeah, yeah, in a bar. 432 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: And so I don't know, we'll try it. Let's try it. 433 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: Let's give it a shot. Can't hurt. I mean, we've 434 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: got nothing to lose at this point. Don't forget Johnny 435 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: Athletic five thirty, Kyle Potter thrifty, traveler four oh two. 436 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: To get to some of the news of the day. Oh, 437 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: there we go, yep, yep, he said, Come on, does 438 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: he have voicemail? I don't even remember. 439 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: Hi, this is Kyle Schmid's cell phone. Uh, I would say, 440 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: thank you for calling. I'm pa sure. I know it's 441 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: just that Spots station and Mayapolis is calling and damn 442 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: Brell and Jordan's and I think this was not And 443 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going on yourself. You're not gonna fool me, 444 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: You're not gonna find me, and I can give me. 445 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: The phone is out of contract. 446 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 3: No one wants to hear from you. You're not You're 447 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: just cool because I know you don't want to talk 448 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 3: about football. 449 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: You want to just talk about. 450 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: Pleasing me and making me feel bad and make me 451 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: feel like you know, good people are bad, but we 452 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 3: are not. We are good people, not like that idiot 453 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 3: coach from Chicago, who william to shake somebody's hands? And yeah, 454 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: we heard what you said in the locker room, so 455 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: don't think it's so damn smart. But we're gonna make 456 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 3: some changes or keep some things the same. We are 457 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: very intelligent and interesting along, don't leave a message, don't 458 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: call back, quit bothering me. You are now approaching what 459 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: we call harassment, so stay away. Do not leave a 460 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: message here. I do not want to hear from you. 461 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: Go away, but if you call anybody else, I want 462 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: to leave it. 463 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: Carl, is there any chance we can get you to 464 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: call the hotline a kfan radio later tonight, right during 465 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: the top five at five would be ideal. You know, 466 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm a bit disappointed, and I think a lot of 467 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: the Vikings fans enjoying this chadenfreud are too You sounded 468 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: maybe you're medicated, but you almost sounded too relaxed. I 469 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 1: think we wanted to hear a little bit more angst 470 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: in your voice, a little more hurt. Last time you 471 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: were crying, and I didn't even sense any tears this time. 472 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: So don't hesitate to talk to call back to your 473 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: good buddies back at KFA N. We'll talk to you 474 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: on Friday for the prediction segment which you are legally 475 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: ordered required to participate in. Thank you all right? Not 476 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: as much as we could hope for. Didn't he sound 477 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: rather sedate? Almost? Yeah? Resigned? Maybe resigned for the word yeah, Yeah, 478 00:29:54,560 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: that might be true. Sam fra Rosemann writes, if Gerby's 479 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: and Palm Springs tomes and not yell at any kids 480 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: at the pool this time, I forgot about. That's a callback. 481 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: That's a good call back. Is that last year or 482 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: two years ago? I think it was last year. You're right, 483 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 1: very very true, Davy. Should we get to a talking point? 484 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: They're there. They got a bunch of them. Well. I 485 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: was going to start with the capable one, because we've 486 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: been talking a lot about him, but maybe maybe we 487 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: start with this one because there is potentially at least 488 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: being speculated upon a local angle here regarding this particular 489 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: outcome in this talking point. 490 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: It's second down at ten for the forty two yard line. Herbert, 491 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: out of the gun, taps his foot by Dell next 492 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: to him in the backfield. Herbert drops back to pass, 493 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: looks to his writing's under pressure, he keeps his bearings 494 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: till he lost the football. 495 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 4: He sucks and they're rolling on top of it. The 496 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 4: Patriots have recovered at the forty five yard line Alice recover. 497 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: Where the third fourth Fern and Herbert. 498 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: Is slowan to get up. He has just been battered 499 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: and bruise and. 500 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 5: He got absolutely hammered that time from the backside from 501 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: Calephon Chase on and then the front side of was 502 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 5: Elijah Ponder that ended up hitting the ball gets knock 503 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: loose in New England is over on top of it. 504 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: Not well enough, you know, And that's a tough part 505 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: in you know, we have to do better than three 506 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: points in and as an offense, uh, it's it's not 507 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: good enough. And quarterback player wasn't good enough, and you 508 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: know we left the defense someday. Wow. I we've talked 509 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: about Justin Herbert on this show over the years. I 510 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: even raved about a pass, a particular pass in a 511 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: particular game earlier this season that was one of those 512 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: of you go, that's yeah, that's a play against us. 513 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: We made him look extremely good, yes we did. And 514 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: he he can make some throws where you go not 515 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: many guys can make those throws physically. But my issue, 516 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: I think is the same as yours same in the 517 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: related to the postseason talking about koc Nothing's happened with 518 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: this guy, and last night I think even Collinsworth was 519 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: disturbed seeing ghosts. He's got to hang in there more. 520 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: He's rolling out too fast. That's code for he doesn't 521 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: want to take the punishment, or he's not yet seeing 522 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: the field in a way where he's even giving his 523 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: team a chance to compete in this game. He was 524 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: a disaster in the postseason last year. Was that against Houston? 525 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: I think he threw four picks. He's owing three in 526 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: the postseason. And I bring him up because there are people, 527 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: and they know who they are, who have long coveted 528 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: this kid and who have said, huh, well, Harbaugh coached 529 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy in college. They celebrated a Natty together, correct, 530 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: they did. Maybe he'll start feeling the heat and he'll 531 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: be a little disappointed and a little frustrated with what 532 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: Herbert has done to this point. And maybe this, what 533 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: took place last night in Foxborough might be the last straw. 534 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: Maybe if we go to the Chargers and say, hey, 535 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: got a deal for you. How about we give you 536 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: some draft choices and JJ and we'll take the Justin 537 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: Herbert headache off of your hands, because we've got the 538 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: quarterback whisper. I don't want him. I don't want him. 539 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: Is that too radical? Is that an overreaction to another 540 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: bad postseason performance? He's had three bad playoff performances. The 541 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: last two have been miserable, and he again last night 542 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: did not look interested to me in joining the battle. 543 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: He really didn't. I didn't think. He just didn't look 544 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: like he wanted any of the physicality of it. He 545 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: was a big guy who's actually run pretty well this year. Yep, 546 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: I it's it's look, it's a game that we're playing. 547 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: It's unlikely that anything like that would happen. And again 548 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: I get it. He's a big, strapping lad. I mean 549 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: he makes JJ McCarthy look physically like he's twelve years old, 550 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: and he's got a gun of an arm and get 551 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: the ball plays. He's got great hair, he's got all everything. 552 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,479 Speaker 1: Is he a California kid? Originally, I don't remember where's 553 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert from. I can't remember. He looks like he's 554 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: a California kid. Whether he is or not, this doesn't 555 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: say he went to Oregon. I'll look it up. I 556 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: was looking at his contract. I don't know, because let 557 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: me throw this in. Yeah the contract. Yeah, his cap 558 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: hit next season is forty six million. His cap hit 559 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: the season after is fifty eight million bucks. Right, yeah, 560 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: Well you gotta love them then, yeah. Yeah. And I'm 561 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: just saying now. I played the talking point because it 562 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: was one of the big stories this weekend, because the 563 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: one disappointing game of the five played thus far was 564 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: the one last night, when the one put in prime 565 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: time Sunday Night Football's true it was you could say, Okay, 566 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: that just turned out to be a defensive struggle, but 567 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: I just I mean, hell, they got the ball off 568 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: an interception at the New England ten yard line right away, 569 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: and you know what he did. He ran I think 570 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: there were three straight scrambles, and then he went forward 571 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: on fourth down and he threw a terrible pass that 572 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: had no chance to be complete, one of his plays 573 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: where you're not even giving you a receiver a chance 574 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: to make a play. So, regardless of the Vikings connection, 575 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: if there is such a thing to even consider in 576 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: a hypothetical way, it will be interesting for me to 577 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: see what they do with him and what this does 578 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: to his reputation, because at some point it's got to 579 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: be about more than looking pretty right and big numbers 580 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: and big numbers. That it has to be. He just 581 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: we we were down fourteen points. Caleb Williams a little 582 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: bit where he just made four plays that got us 583 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: back in the game. And he hasn't done that in 584 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: the postseason at all. He did throw four picks in 585 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: the game last year they got crushed by Houston. He 586 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: is born and raised in Eugene, Oregon. He was a 587 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: hometown can't go for the Ducks. Okay, there you go. 588 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: The West Coast, Yeah, yeah, a little West Coast. Got 589 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: the vibe, got the flavor, yeah for sure, and the 590 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: look absolutely the look. Forty six mil for Herbert is 591 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: a bargain. Well, yeah, if you love him, if you 592 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: think he can lead you to a super Bowl, that's very, 593 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: very true, Davy. But that's my question now, is the 594 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: timing just doesn't unless you go with the old new scenery. Right. 595 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: He didn't like Harbaugh. Harbor I don't know how to 596 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: get the best out of him. We got a guy 597 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: who knows how to get the best out of quarterbacks, 598 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: even though he didn't really get much of anything out 599 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: of JJ in your in year two for JJ year 600 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: one actually technically so I don't know. I'll throw that 601 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: into the mix. A couple of people are saying, no, 602 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: not Herbert Joe Burrow, they would rather go for Joe Burrow. 603 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: I would too, of those options, I would take JAP 604 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: two and that's not that's also going to be financially 605 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Right. What if we keep JJ 606 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy McCarthy, give up KOC and get Jim Harbaugh? Well, 607 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: I think I like that less. Harbaugh this time around 608 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: has not been successful well to the playoffs twice, and 609 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: they were well under five hundred the year before, so 610 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: he's played, He's coached well, no doubt, but postseason has 611 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: been a disappointment. I would think you he would agree. 612 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: And if his last stop is any indication he's about 613 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: at the point where he's going to start cheating massively, 614 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: so that should help. But he has our enough of 615 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: a track record where he has built in equity that 616 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: our guide does not have. As somebody texted earlier, let 617 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: me see if I can find it. Where is it? Patriots, 618 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: did degrade? What's your point, fire Koc? My point is 619 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: not to call for his head but to say we can't. 620 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 1: I'll just put it this way. Any other coach four 621 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: years in, with the up and down nature of the 622 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: four seasons and a lack of any playoff success, including 623 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: losing to an inferior team in the first playoff opportunity, 624 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: would be getting heat. Mike Zimmer would be getting killed 625 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: and did under these conditions, And I'm just looking for 626 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: a little consistency. I think we've all lost ourselves in this. 627 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: In this I hate to use the term narrative, but 628 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: that's what it is. That everybody wants to player. Everything's 629 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: wonderful here. We just have to stay the course that 630 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: may be. That may be. So No, I'm not calling 631 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: for his head, but I'm saying, let's get going. That 632 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: has to be part of how we evaluate because it's 633 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: how we part of how we evaluate everybody else, Is 634 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: it not. I certainly think that it is, or that 635 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: it should be. Ah the way what you're saying here, 636 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: do you think like in that building they're not feeling 637 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: the urgency now like ke I hope. So I'm sure 638 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: KOs is looking at it and going man like Ben 639 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: Jonson and wins this game as a guy who I 640 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: think likes locker room stuff more than I do. Yeah, 641 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: I found for me, And again he didn't do it 642 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,959 Speaker 1: for me. I understand that fully, and you can even 643 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: say he's playing. Yeah, but the the Ben Johnson bleeped 644 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: the Packers thing did nothing for me. Well, here's what 645 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: I say about it. If it was ten years ago 646 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: and you were just on the Bears, yes, and it 647 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be tweeted out forty minutes after the game. Like, 648 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 1: I feel like this stuff has been going on forever 649 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: and ever. And that's a fair point. And that's the 650 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: because again it's not for us, but they can decide 651 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: what gets out and what doesn't want it to You're right, Yeah, 652 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: you're right. So it doesn't like to me, it's should 653 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: always be. How does the team feel about it? How 654 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: do they feel about it? Should they keep it private? 655 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean I like watching it. I think it's interesting 656 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: just because I'm interested in that stuff. I'm a rub. 657 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: But I'm just worried about, like everything else, it's becoming 658 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: performative because so much of it now is being processed, 659 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: edited and sent out you know in a way that 660 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: we want it. We Yeah, we're part that's part of 661 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: our brand now. I can hear. I'm guarantee you that 662 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: somebody with a Rod's group, because there was one the 663 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: other night with Finchy, And I guarantee you if somebody said, hey, 664 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,959 Speaker 1: we got to get everybody else is doing these post 665 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: game videos of the code, we got to do that too, 666 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: I guarantee you that that that's and I just don't 667 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: want it to become so performative that it's all. It's 668 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: all that it's at that point starts to you know 669 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: that their meaning a little. It was a lot of 670 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: these guys, I think that is what they would say, 671 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: cameras on or cameras off. I don't know if a 672 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: lot of coaches are thinking about the cameras ony. That 673 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: may be true. Like when Jimmy Johnson did how about 674 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: that Cowboys well for Packer for Bears fans, they all 675 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: related to it because that's how they It's like, that's 676 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: our guy. Yep, that's our guy right there. Well, I 677 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: will add this, and this might sound like a contradiction. 678 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: One of my beefs about Caleb from the moment he 679 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: was drafted, is it. What I observed again from Afar 680 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: was somebody who seemed to float above it all. Like 681 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: even with teammates, like he was not connecting to any 682 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: of it. Chicago, the Bears, the whole bit, the history 683 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: and after the game. You saw what he did after 684 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: the game, right, he did the cheese Greater routine. Oh yeah, 685 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: Now to me, that's where he actually won me over. 686 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 3: That. 687 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: Okay, he's being silly with it, and it always seemed 688 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: like before he was afraid to get silly with it. 689 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: Like he's arrived in a sense that he becomes more 690 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: relatable to everybody that I'm in this, all right, I'm 691 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: in this. I'm gonna be in all of it, even 692 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: the stuff that I think is kind of silly. So 693 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: I may in a sense I'm contradicting myself because you 694 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: could say that's exactly what the head coach was doing, 695 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: just being silly. I thought his postgame interview on the 696 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: field was outstare. 697 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 2: It was. 698 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: I was tremendous. I thought it was as good as 699 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: it gets to to what you're talking about, absolutely connecting 700 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: with everything and talking about the team and how they 701 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: go about their business and how they believe in each other, 702 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: and that didn't see and how we got to play. 703 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: He didn't just say we have to play better. He 704 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: got very specific because I think he was smart enough, 705 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: his eyes are op enough to say, you know, we played, 706 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: we keep playing like that, we're probably asking for trouble. 707 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: That's what that's music to the years of the coach. 708 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was really good. Yeah, right about thought 709 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: nine nine when he gets in front of the microphone, 710 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 1: for sure, quazy is the problem. We get a lot 711 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: of that, not Koc. What I'm saying has nothing to 712 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: do with who's the What I'm saying has to do 713 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: with this is the regime, and the regime has to 714 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: ultimately be about results and make no mistake the Vikings 715 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: approach and decisions at the quarterback decision quarterback position, I 716 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: should say, that's not the general manager. There's no one 717 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: in their right mind can possibly believe that that's Koc's decision. 718 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: That's his approach, that's his philosophy, that's reflected and right 719 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: now again it's not over for this for McCarthy, I 720 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: don't think. But it's not very good today. It's it's 721 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: it's it's not very encouraging, I guess is the way 722 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: I should put it. I'm looking at breaking news from 723 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: the A Section. Attorney General Keith Ellison, the mayors of 724 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: both Minneapolis and Saint Paul, and it sounds as if 725 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: they've announced that a loss has been filed against the 726 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security to stop ICE operations in Minnesota. 727 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: We'll try to see if we can get a little 728 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: more information on that and where that might go and 729 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: strategically speaking, what kind of impact might that have. Our 730 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: guy Andy Luger would be great to talk to today. Unfortunately 731 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he's available right now. But that's the 732 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: breaking news. I see a press conference being carried live 733 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: by Fox nine and it looks like Ellison's taking questions 734 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: and I'm assuming getting specific about where that lawsuit will 735 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: be filed. How in My question is obviously how quickly 736 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: it could be acted upon, And then, let's be honest, 737 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: how likely is it that anybody in the federal government's 738 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: going to pay any attention to it? Because that's been 739 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: more than half the battle to this point. Top of 740 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: the hour pause, A thrifty traveler guy Kyle Potter, on 741 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: some breaking airline news, aviation news in which the Twin 742 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: Cities has a big stake. That's next