1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Your 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: guide to better understanding that place where you live. Why 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: because every home has a path forward, and once you 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: see it, that's what changes everything. And I'm here every 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: week to help you find that path and make it 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: a reality so that the house that you live in 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: can become truly your home. What's the difference between a 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: house and a home in my opinion, And I'm not 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: talking about the you know, the emotional aspects. I'm talking 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: about the fact that when the house that you live 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: in is really mirroring and becomes a tool and a 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: machine and an implement and a part of the family 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: that pushes your life forward the way you want it 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: to be. That's when a house becomes a home, when 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: it mirrors who you really are and amplifies it and 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: makes being you that much easier and better along the way. Anyway, Today, 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: on the program Halloween just around the corner coming up 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: here on Friday, we're playing around with a little bit 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: of house hauntedness, weird sounds that your house makes. Also, 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: we're talking with my very special in studio guests, my 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: own sister, Darcy Stanaforth, who is an American Studies scholar 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: at cal State Fullerton and works with Haunted OC and 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: will be our special VIP guide through the historic Kellogg 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: House tomorrow night, of which we still have a couple 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: three tickets to give away, which we'll do in just 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: a bit. I'm trying to remember where we were at. 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: We're on the edge of talking about something. 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: You were asking about the other buildings. Oh, yes, grounds 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: of the Heritage. Okay, So the Kellogg House is not 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: in its original location. It was a few miles down 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: the road, but it has been restored and removed to 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: the Heritage Museum of Orange County. There's more there than 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: just the Kellogg House. Yeah, so I mentioned the mag Farmhouse. 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: So we have not only the farmhouse, but the original 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: water tower and the carriage house. Carriage house of the 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: Mag and the water tower have been fully restored. 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: They're much smaller buildings. 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: Yes, the Mag House it's fifty six hundred square feet, 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: and the museum it's very big. And the museum wants 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: to fully restore her, not just so folks can go inside, 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: but to become a museum learning center, and the home 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: of Orange County Archives. Oh, so we're not only looking 44 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: for funds to be raised for that, but also even 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: like plumbing sponsors, electrical sponsors, things like that, because it's 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: gonna take a lot. 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big that's a big that's a big 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: restoration project. But how old does the mag farmhouse? 49 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: Eighteen ninety nine, Okay, so one hundred and twenty six yeah, okay, yeah. 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: We also it's much newer. 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: Much newer, so much newer, so much newer. 52 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: But we also have a fully functioning blacksmith shop on 53 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: the grounds that the Orange County black Smiths Guild uses. 54 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: We have a full farm. 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 2: And we have the pristine swamp land in the back 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: known as the Gospel Swamp. It's a nature preserve so 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: that people can come and enjoy that as well. 58 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 3: So the grounds are quite large, quite extensive, Yes, extensive grounds. 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: Extensive grounds for your cravat and your bustle, our floor. 60 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: But the Kellogg House kind of like right up front, 61 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: sort of the you know, the pre eminent you know icon. 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: She's the crown jewel, she is the heritage. 63 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: And she's beautiful. She's a beautiful home. One of the 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: things I love about it custom home. Right, Hiram Kellogg's 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: civil engineer right up on the turret of this, you know, 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: because every good Queen Anne Victorian, larger Queen Anne Victorian 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: has a turret up on the second floor and a 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: round roof and a little witch's hat roof on top 69 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: up on that turret should be you would think, okay, 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: but it makes sense. But you would think because of 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: his obsession with sailing, you would think that, you know, 72 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: we'd have a weather vein up there, that's a gull, 73 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: a bird, a ship. But no, that's for the inside. 74 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: On the outside, Hiram's like, oh, and by the way, 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm a civil engineer, so what's the weather vane up 76 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: on the turret? A transit a transit surveyors transit. It's 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: so cool. 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: It's how he advertised. 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I'm I'm the civil engineer, the civil engineer 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: in Santa Anna. 81 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: And so that's how he advertised the neighborhood. 82 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. And he had his office kind 83 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: of down out up well, well, he had three offices. Okay. 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: He had an office on the main floor which he 85 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: met with clients. 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: Right up to the left of the stairs, right off 87 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: of the drawing room or sitting it's off the kit 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: it's off the it's off the dining room, off the dock. 89 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: And then he had a private office on the second floor, 90 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: and then he had an office in the basement. 91 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: Where he conducted his experiment his experiments. Hiram, are you 92 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 3: down there. 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: Right? 94 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: That made no sense whatsoever. I don't even know what 95 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: he did in the basement. 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: I want to know who's calling to It was that 97 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: Helen calling. 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: That was Helen had a very deep masculine voice. I'm 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: not sure if you were aware of that, but you can. 100 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: You can add that to your tour. Look at that. 101 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: Look at those sounded like this Iro. That's why he 102 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: was hiding in the basement. By the way, that's fair 103 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: because you know she was quite manish loud anyway, okay, 104 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: uh we digress and said this is what happens when 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: I have my sister on the show. I have a 106 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: lot of fun and the listeners are like, are you 107 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: actually going to get to anything but useful stuff about 108 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: the Kellogg House custom? What else is custom? Well, maybe 109 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: we should mention the probably the most custom piece of 110 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: the entire Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you see 111 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: it right, when you walk in the door. 112 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have a stunning spiral staircase. 113 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: In the house. 114 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: Three three story, three story. 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, technically because it goes into the attic, right, But 116 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: it is built around a ship's mast. 117 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: A ship's mast, yes, not a simulated ship's mask. 118 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: No. No. 119 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: Where did he come up with a ship's mast. 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: He was on a job in San Francisco and came 121 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: across a decommissioned ship from the seventeen hundreds. 122 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, a tall ship, A tall ship from the eighteenth century. 123 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: Yes, And it's like, I have an idea, and he's like. 124 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: Hey, that mast. What are you guys doing with that mast? 125 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: You're gonna Can I have that? Can I have that? 126 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: Uh? 127 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: But he had already designed the house, He had original 128 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: plans drawn up, and then decided to redesign the entire 129 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: house around the ships mask. 130 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 1: Oh so okay, So that wasn't part of the original plan. 131 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: It was just a fine It was a find. And 132 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: he's like, wait a second, hang on, yep, what if? 133 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: And then boom right there in the middle, and I. 134 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: Can't imagine the house any other way because of how 135 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 2: incredibly custom and unique it is. 136 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: It's iconic. It's iconic. You walk in, You're like, oh, 137 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: that's what is that large pole in the center of 138 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: you know, going up the middle of the spiral staircase. 139 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: How do you get to the second floor. 140 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Now, it's an eighteenth century ship's mast. Get it there 141 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: and the attic area that it accesses. He left it open, yeah, 142 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: open concept because it reminds him of a crow's nest 143 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: up there. It has that sense of a crow's nest 144 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: railing up there way at the top, and somebody tends 145 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: to appear at in the crow's nest. That's what I heard. 146 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes we have a little girl, a little girl up 147 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: there shows up in the attic looking down, looking down. 148 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: So sometimes you go up the stairs, you look up 149 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: and there's somebody looking down at you. 150 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: That happens. Sometimes footsteps we've had on tours just sounds 151 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: like someone's walking around the attic and nobody is because 152 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: I could see them. 153 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: I can't see anybody. Okay, now you're freaking me out, 154 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: all right. 155 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: On the other side of the break, we're going to 156 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: talk more about solving your own haunted issues in your home. 157 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Will we'll do that next more good stuff on the way. 158 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp House Whisper. 159 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 160 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty. 161 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: Here to help you take your home to the next level. 162 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the program today. It is 163 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: our pre Halloween show. What does that mean? You know, 164 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: just using it as excuse to have some fun talk 165 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: about some fun things. One of the things is my 166 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: very special in studio guest, Darcy Staniforth, who happens to 167 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: also be my sister. The most important part of her CV, 168 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: by the. 169 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: Way, it is, it is really I actually I have 170 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: it right at the top, above education, above your. 171 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: Above the fact that you're a professor of American Studies 172 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: at UC Fullerton. You're like, well, you know, I'm also 173 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Dean Sharpe's sister, So. 174 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: Hello, a I'm related to the house? Was for that? 175 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: Probably is you should put that on the back of 176 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: your CV or not at all if you, you know, 177 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: really want to get a good job. Okay, just saying anyway, 178 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: Darcy's here and she is actually going to be our 179 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: guide through the historic Kellogg House and it's alleged hauntings, 180 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: your ghost host ghost. She's going to be a guiding 181 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: us tomorrow night. And I am telling you right now 182 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: that we are about to give away the final four 183 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: tickets to that event, two pairs, two pairs. Okay, so Nicky, 184 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have two winners. Now, okay, you're gonna pick 185 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: two winners. We're giving away the last two pairs of 186 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: tickets two that VIP ghost Tour of the Kellogg House 187 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. The number to call in eight three three. 188 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Don't do it yet, wait eight three three two ask 189 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: dean eight three three the numeral two asking eight three 190 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: three two, askting if you want to be a part 191 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: of tomorrow Night's the IP House Whisper Ghost Tour of 192 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: the historic Kellogg House led by my sister Darcy. Uh, 193 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: get ready to call right now, and there you go. 194 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: The phone lines are lighting up, and uh, Nicky is 195 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: going to pick two winners. And then Nicky send me 196 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: that h info so I can announce them yet again 197 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: on the air. Okay, I want to get back to 198 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: a couple of practical thing gees. Here Where am I at? Here? 199 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: Are there? We are living in a haunted house. Is 200 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: your home possessed? Probably not, even though it makes creaks 201 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: and squeaks you might think so. Sometimes problems in the 202 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: house take on a life of their own. Let's talk 203 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: about that hissing toilet in the middle of the night. Right, 204 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: You're lying in bed and you're like, who is using 205 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: the toilet? Why is my toilet hissing at me? Is 206 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: there a snake in there? Is there a snake in 207 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: my boot? No? There is not. It's a very simple things. 208 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: It could not be simpler. Okay, if your toilet is 209 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: hissing in the middle of the night, okay, this is 210 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: what's going on inside the tank. The most basic component 211 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: of I'm not talking about the bowl in the tank, okay. 212 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: The most basic component of the stuff in the tank 213 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: is the flapper, the little flapper. It's a rubber gasket 214 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: that flips down and covers the hole and keeps the 215 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: water in the tank. It's what the chain from the 216 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: handle is connected to the flapper. So when you flush 217 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: the toilet, you pull the handle, the chain lifts the flapper, 218 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: and all the water in the tank goes rushing down 219 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: into the toilet bowl. Those flappers they wear out, and 220 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: they don't wear out like all of a sudden, they're 221 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: just gushing. They just get old. So if you reach 222 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: down into and you can reach down into your toilet 223 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: tank that is not sewer water, just fresh water inside 224 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: a bowl. Okay, that's all there is, not the bowl, 225 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: the tank. Reach down in there and touch the flapper. 226 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: And if you're you come out with your fingers with 227 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: like black or red because flappers are usually either black 228 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: rubber or there's this reddish colored rubber. If you come 229 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: out and there's there's stuff on your fingers, black are red, 230 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: you know what that tells you? Your flapper is starting 231 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: to degrade. Okay, it's literally dissolving in the water there, 232 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: and it's time to replace it. Now, what's that gonna take. 233 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna take a trip to the hardware store or 234 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: the big box store, visit the plumbing department and buy 235 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: a new flapper four are you ready? Like three dollars? 236 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 237 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: It's three to five dollars, depending on whether you get 238 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: the super flapper or the regular flapper. So you know what, 239 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: splurge the full five bucks and get the best flapper. 240 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: That will end the hissing because what's happening is water 241 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: is leaking out in the middle of the night down 242 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: into the bowl and then the little float inside the 243 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: ballcock assembly that's what that's all called. In there, the 244 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: float goes down just enough to start the refill valve going, 245 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: and the refill valve is hissing. It's not fully pouring 246 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: water out, it's just hissing, and that's what you're hearing 247 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: until it refills and then it stops again. And that's 248 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: why it's been going on and off, on and off 249 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: all night long. Okay, so that's the deal, and you 250 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: want to shut that down and keep that from happening. 251 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: And don't know, wait, I know you're going to tell me. Wait, Dean, 252 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: that's not the problem, because guess what. My toilet bowl 253 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: never fills up with water. It's not any fuller with 254 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: water than it is during the day. So it's got 255 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: to be something else that would be incorrect. My friend, 256 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: did you know this. Here's a little trivia for you. You 257 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: cannot overflow your toilet bowl. Did you know this, Darcy? 258 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: You cannot overflow your toilet bowl by pouring water into it. 259 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: Go get a big bucket and start pouring water into 260 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: your toilet bowl. It will never fill above its regular level. 261 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: You can pour hundreds of gallons of water. You can 262 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: put a garden hose in there, set on low, your 263 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: toilet bowl will never overflow because the way it's designed 264 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: in the back, any extra water above a certain level 265 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: just pours down the drain. The only time the toilet 266 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: bowl overflows is when there's a clog in the drain period. 267 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: That's the end. Does that make sense? 268 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: All right? 269 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: So there you go. That was free more when we 270 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: return your Home with Dean Sharp the house Whisper. 271 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 272 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty. 273 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: Transform your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. That's what 274 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: we do every week. We help you find the path forward. 275 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Once you find it, everything changes. Until you find it, 276 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: nothing changes. And I mean that in all seriousness. You 277 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: can just keep adding stuff and switching out materials and 278 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: doing all that, and all you're doing is spending money. 279 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: Uh well, I don't want to say, well, okay, I'll 280 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: just say it, lipstick on a pig. That's kind of 281 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: the metaphor that we're using. Right, We need to change 282 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: the pig, We need to alter the pig into not 283 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: a pig, And then lipstick counts. It really does. At 284 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: that point, did Dean just say our house is a pig? 285 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: No? 286 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, listen, I'm just saying I. 287 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: Think you're getting lost in the metaphor. 288 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Okay, listen, design matters most. That's what I'm saying. We 289 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: got to find the path forward. Okay. There is a 290 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: way that your home, that your house becomes truly a 291 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: custom home. There's a and it's not just a new 292 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: code of paint. And it's not just refreshing the cabinets. 293 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: It's finding the path. And that's what I'm here trying 294 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: to help you with every week when I don't get 295 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: lost in the metaphor. Thanks Dars. My sister Darcy Standard 296 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: for sitting across the table from me, my very specially 297 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: in studio guest today. She is an American Studies scholar 298 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: at cal State Fullerton also works with Haunted OC. She's 299 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: going to be our ghost host tomorrow night. Congratulations to 300 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: our final winners. You know what, I just put the 301 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: list away. I'm such a bad host. Hang on a second, 302 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: Hang on, I got this somewhere. No, maybe I don't. 303 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna announce the winner's next break. I'm 304 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna come up with our names. Don't worry, you'll get 305 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: your due. We're talking about the historic Kellogg House with 306 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: Darcy today. But also I'm going through little tips and 307 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: tricks on how to keep your house from sounding haunted, 308 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: getting rid of squeaks and creaks and weird sounds. We 309 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: just talked about hissing toilets. I want to do a 310 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: little lightning round here and get through some more items 311 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: on my list. Okay, how about pipes that hammer and shudder. Okay, 312 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: you turn on a certain faucet and you get this 313 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: classic Okay, no one wants that in their life. No one. 314 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: That is called water hammer. And you know, I don't 315 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: need to explain why, because it sounds exactly like that 316 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: water hammer is not the result of some plumber not 317 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: doing their job. Plumbing pipes in a house very very tricky. 318 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: There's no way, literally, there is no way for us 319 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: to figure out ahead of time whether or not a 320 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: plumbing system is going to hammer on us or not. 321 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: When it's done. Pipes have water flowing through them every 322 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: bend that they make, every ninety degree turn, we get 323 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: this thing called cavitation, in which the water gets disrupted 324 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: and a new energy shock wave runs through the water. 325 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: If that builds up in just the right way, we 326 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: end up with this hammering effect at the end of 327 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: the line somewhere, and usually it's activated when you turn 328 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: on and off a faucet. There's no way to know, Okay, 329 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: so don't get angry at the people who designed your plumbing. 330 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: There's literally I mean, we've done it. We've plumbed very 331 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: very simple, very small homes and had water hammer We've 332 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: plumbed mansions and had water hammer issues. The solution, fortunately 333 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: is relatively simple. You just need a shock absorber on 334 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: the system, and they make such a thing they are 335 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: water hammer shock absorbers. Then the good news is you 336 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: can install one yourself if you're even just a little 337 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: bit handy, because they don't have to be built into 338 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: it's soldered into the copper lines. They can be installed. 339 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: They're just a little pipe. They look like just a 340 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: little copper pipe that's about four or five inches long, 341 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: and they can be installed under the sink in question. 342 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: And what they have in there is a they've got 343 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: a membrane and a spring and they very much work 344 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: like a shock absorber and they're sitting there and so 345 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: when the hammering starts to happen, it absorbs that shock 346 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: and we don't get that sound reverberating through the pipes. 347 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't solve the problem putting one or 348 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: two underneath the sink in question, then you go to 349 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: the next sink over and you put a couple of 350 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: there too, and you can put one by the water 351 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: heat wherever it is. You can keep adding these to 352 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: your home until it goes away. But I guarantee you 353 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: after one or two of them it will go away. 354 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: And so boom, water hammer done. Nobody has to live 355 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: with that disturbing sound running through the pipes in their home. 356 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: What else have I got for you here? How about 357 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: that unsettling sound when the whole house settles. You're just 358 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: sitting in your home watching TV at night, and then 359 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everything just shudders and pops and creaks, 360 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: and like, what is happening? Is my house fall down? No, 361 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: it's not, it's not. Was that an earthquake? 362 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: No? 363 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: Not? 364 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: If you didn't feel, you know, the ground under you rumble. 365 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: What happens is, from time to time a house will settle. 366 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: Why because the majority of homes are built with what 367 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: we call green lumber, meaning wet lumber. It has not 368 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: been kiln dried. Okay, the furniture that you buy for 369 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 1: your home is kiln dried lumber. It has the it 370 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: has been run through a kiln and all of the 371 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: water content inside or most of the water content inside 372 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: the lumber has been dried out. And that's what makes 373 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: furniture as stable as it is. Okay. It's also is 374 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: what makes it expensive as it is because just like 375 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: regular drying, like if we were at air dry lumber 376 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: without a kiln, it's one inch of dryness in lumber 377 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: thickness per year. Yeah, that's what it takes to just 378 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: air dry lumber to make furniture grade furniture. So we 379 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: run stuff through a kil but it still takes a 380 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: lot to do that. Your house is built out of 381 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: green lumber. And if you've ever been to like you know, 382 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: the lumber yard or the lumber department at Low's or 383 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: home depot, and you've you've you needed a few two 384 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: by fours, right, you're picking up a two by four 385 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: like okay, and that one oh, and then all of 386 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: a sudden you're like, why does this one weigh four 387 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: times as much? Because it just you got a wet 388 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: one there. It's it's water weight. Okay, So what's the point. 389 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: The point is this that water weight will eventually leave 390 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: every home. The older home gets, the more the water 391 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: evaporates out of the studs. Okay, slowly but surely. Like 392 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: I said, if they were out in the open, it 393 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: would be one inch a year, okay of drawing it out. 394 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: So it's inside your house, it takes even longer for 395 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: that to happen. And when that happens, this is the 396 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: reason why we kill and dry furniture. When water leaves 397 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: a piece of lumber, it dimensionally shrinks. The lumber shrink 398 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, just a little bit, not like inches, 399 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: just a little bit. So all the studs in your home, 400 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: in the walls, as they get older, they are shrinking 401 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: in width and also in length just a little bit. 402 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean sixteenth of an inch, maybe eighth of an inch. 403 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes at some point, all the weight that's distributed around 404 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: your house, after those studs have shrunk enough, the house decides, okay, 405 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: well I'm not going to just sit up here being 406 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: held up by the dry wall. And the weight pushes 407 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: down and it resettles, the top plates resettle on the studs, 408 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: and all that pressure gets relieved. And that's why sometimes 409 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: every once in a while, when you're sitting in a home, 410 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: an older home, all of a sudden, boom boom boom 411 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: boom boom, crack creek above, you know, and it may 412 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: even you may, even if it's bad enough in some area, 413 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: you may even see a little tiny crack and dry 414 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: wall appear somewhere on a ceiling or on the top 415 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: of a wall. And you're like, oh no, don't worry. 416 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: Your house is not falling down. It just shrunk a 417 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: little bit and settled a little bit, you know, like 418 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: an old guy who's all bent over now and who 419 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: used to be six feet tall now he's like five, 420 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: you know, ten and three quarters. Things shrink as you 421 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: get older, That's all I'm saying. Stop laughing, Darcy, Things 422 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: shrink when you get older. Okay. I try and tell 423 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: Tina that all the time. Anyway, it's settlement and your 424 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: house is not falling down. So that one, there's no 425 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: solution to other than just to tell you don't worry 426 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: about it. Don't worry about it. Your house is not haunted, 427 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: nor is it collapsing. It is just aging a little bit, 428 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: all right. More to come. Thanks for joining us on 429 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: the program. You hang tight. We're gonna talk to Darcy 430 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: about the one more time about the Kellogg House and 431 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: some closing thoughts when we come back. You're Home with 432 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Dean Sharps. 433 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 4: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 434 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty. 435 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, almost afternoon right here, wrapping up 436 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: our three hours. How fast they go by. I hope 437 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: you've enjoyed the show today. It's still a little bit 438 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: more to go here to remind you every home deserves 439 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: great design, especially yours. That's why we are here every 440 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: weekend doing what we do. We've had some fun today 441 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: talking about Halloween coming up, talking about little fixes to 442 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: your house. If if you've never figured out why it 443 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: makes weird noises in different ways, you know. I've got 444 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: a much bigger list, but I wanted to divide that 445 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: list today in time with my very special in studio guests, 446 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: my very own sister, Darcy Staniforth sitting across the table 447 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: from me, who I always love spending time with on 448 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: and off the air. And Darcy is a professor of 449 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: American Studies at cal State Fullerton, also works with Haunted 450 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: oh See, also going to be our tour guide, our 451 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: ghost host, Tomorrow night with the VIPs who have won 452 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: tickets to go on the historic Kellogg House tour tomorrow 453 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: evening at the Heritage Museum of Orange County. Any any 454 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: last thoughts, Darcy before we push you off the gang 455 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: plank here as it were, about the Kellogg House and 456 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: what people can expect tomorrow night, and just in general 457 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: if you haven't made the winner's list for tomorrow night's tour. 458 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: The fact that people can come down any old time. 459 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we run tours all year long. 460 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: I've still got some tickets available for people to purchase 461 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: for Wednesday and Thursday night's later tours. Oh of this 462 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: week of this week, so there are still stuff. Still 463 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: tickets available for the twenty ninth and thirtieth tickets at 464 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: hanadoc dot com. And I'm just really excited to meet 465 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: these VIPs and share about this incredible house, not just 466 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: what we've talked about today, but really ready to show 467 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 2: you all in person and tell you some great history 468 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: and some incredible ghost stories. 469 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: I love the fact that the Kellogg House is not 470 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: just it's not it's not just restored, but furnished, yes, furnished, 471 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: and so many of the things that y'all have put 472 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: in there are items of amazing historical conversation like hair wreaths, yes, 473 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: and photographs and things like that. I mean things that Again, 474 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: we started out the show talking about this idea that 475 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: that you know, it's it seems in some ways the 476 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: way the Victorians handle death seems a bit maybe morbid. 477 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: It's strange to us from our perspective, but really they 478 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: just they were a people who who had to face 479 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: it more directly than we do and not skirt around 480 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: it as much. And so when you really kind of 481 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: get see the world through their eyes, it makes very 482 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: much sense. The way that they handled things. 483 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: A lot of sense. 484 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: And also the Victorians were very sentimental, like not just 485 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: in the idea of the Victorian good death, but jewelry, clothing, 486 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: all kinds of things deep with symbolism. 487 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, deep, deep, deep symbolism. 488 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 2: So I'm excited to share some of the death culture 489 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: parts of that tomorrow night. 490 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: All right, it's going to be a good time. And 491 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: again if you can't make if you weren't one of 492 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: our winners, you can take these Haunted OC tours, yes, 493 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: throughout the year, and still some tickets available for tours 494 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: later this week, yep. Babe, thanks for being part of 495 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: the show. As always, I love you, I love you 496 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: all right. So here's a You know, I got up 497 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: this morning and I had a thought and this was 498 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: on my mind, and so I'll leave you with this 499 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 1: thought today. Apparitions, shadows, disembodied voices, objects that move on 500 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: their own, things that go bump in the night, right, 501 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: classic hauntings that send a chill down the spine, none 502 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: of which actually I have ever personally experienced. But let 503 00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: me tell you what haunts me. Regret in security, ego, anxiety, powerlessness, frustration, confusion, exhaustion, frailty, 504 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: bad news, death, and the ever increasing acceleration of time 505 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: toward it. You know these specters as well as I do. 506 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: They haunt us all. They attend our birth, they follow 507 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: us through life. They show up at the worst possible time. 508 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: They aren't dispelled by sprinkles of holy water or circles 509 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: of salt, and they don't simply disappear when you turn 510 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: the lights on. Okay, Dean, well, aren't you just a 511 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: beacon of sunshine this morning? Well? Hey, I've been looking 512 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: for answers my entire life, just like you, and I 513 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: am sorry to report the older I get the fewer 514 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: good answers there are, but that doesn't mean that there 515 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: aren't any. Now, you might not consider what I'm about 516 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: to say much of an answer, and I wouldn't blame 517 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: you for thinking that. But there are a couple of 518 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: things that, when I remember to go, oh there, consistently 519 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: bring me comfort despite all the other troubles that life 520 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: can bring along. First, there is the fact that I 521 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: am alive at all. And you know, the universe is 522 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: unspeakably massive, and the universe is almost entirely empty. Even 523 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: if there are billions of other civilizations out there, that 524 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: is a drop in the bucket. The universe is still 525 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: almost entirely devoid of life except here, except me. So 526 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: death is not the winner. I am the winner, even 527 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: if I'm here for just a moment. I was here. 528 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: I am here. I'm the one who beat the astronomical odds. 529 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, everything is bigger than me, everything, And yes, 530 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: I'll only be here a bit longer to witness just 531 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: how overwhelming it is. But that is the wonder of 532 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: this life. It's life, and life is rare, and I 533 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: am rare, and against all odds, I'm here to witness it, 534 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: which brings me to the second thing that brings me comfort. 535 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm not the only one. You are here too, so 536 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: look at us, look at us. Turns out the reason 537 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: we've been haunted from the cradle to the grave by 538 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: every imaginable trouble is because we're here. We are literally, 539 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: we've won the universe's lottery. Forget about death. Death is common, 540 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: death is ordinary. Life is what's extraordinary. Statistically, we're not 541 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: even supposed to exist, but we do, and despite all 542 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: the troubles, we get to experience this wonder together and 543 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: that makes me smile. So for me, it's all about 544 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: wonder and friendship. Sorry, I don't have many answers beyond that. 545 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: When I was younger, I used to know a lot more. Now, 546 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: after all these years, the best I've come up with 547 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: is wonder and friendship. But I'll tell you what, Wonder 548 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: and friendship they'll keep you young, and they'll do a 549 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: pretty good job of driving the ghosts away. And they 550 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: won't build you a perfect life or worry free life. 551 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: But I know for a fact that you can use 552 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: wonder and friendship to build yourself an awfully beautiful life. 553 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: And I hope you do. And I'll be to hell, 554 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: here to help if I can, because from time to 555 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: time we all get scared at the dark. So with that, 556 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: happy Halloween, and I'll see you right back here next week. 557 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: This has been Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. 558 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: Tune into the live broadcast on KFI AM six forty 559 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: every Saturday morning from six to eight Pacific time and 560 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: every Sunday morning from nine to noon Pacific time, or 561 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.