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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Chad Brendle in forty minutes on the Bearcats who lost

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Speaker 1: last night. We expected them to lose. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: it might cost the team in terms of the tournament.

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Speaker 1: Like they're ten and nine. Had they won the game

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Speaker 1: last night, the the the effort, the battle to get

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Speaker 1: ten and nine right now. They're not going to the

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Speaker 1: NCAA tournament this year. I looked at that game through

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Speaker 1: a different lens. I'll tell you which lens. It was

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Speaker 1: coming up at four oh five plus, justin ive of

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Speaker 1: the Cyclones. Chad Brendle Bearcat Journal dot Com though on Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: the lost to Arizona and what's next next fourteen from

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Speaker 1: four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moegger. Chad Brendle

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Speaker 1: joins us on Thursdays to talk about the Bearcats. His

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Speaker 1: website is the appropriately named Bearcat Journal dot com, is

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Chad Brendel, and he's with us now

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Speaker 1: following last night's You See lost to Arizona in Tucson.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Chad, I'm ol.

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Speaker 1: Is there any sort of overarching takeaway from last night's

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Speaker 1: you See lost to the Wildcats?

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Speaker 2: That Arizona's roster at every position was significantly better than Cincinnatis.

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Speaker 2: That was my takeaway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew that going in. Yeah, last night was

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Speaker 1: confirmation of it. I guess for me it was I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We could talk about how good Arizona is.

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Speaker 1: They were gonna have to play a perfect game last

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Speaker 1: night offensively and they did not, And they were gonna

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Speaker 1: need somebody to step up and create offensively and that

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Speaker 1: didn't happen either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's look Iowa State, Like you can

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Speaker 2: you can trace why the offense was successful against Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: Iowa State likes to gamble. They like to put pressure

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Speaker 2: on you. If you can beat that pressure, then you

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Speaker 2: can score on Iowa State. Arizona basically just plays you

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Speaker 2: straight up. They switch one through four. They'll play drop coverage.

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Speaker 2: You know where their their center plays all when you

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Speaker 2: put him in a pick and roll. They have great size.

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Speaker 2: Their smallest guy is six three. Most of their team

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Speaker 2: is six seven, six, eight and up. And they just

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Speaker 2: say we're gonna play sound, We're gonna stay in front

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Speaker 2: of you, We're gonna make you make shots over the top.

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Speaker 2: And uh, Cincinnati's not a great shooting team. They're not

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Speaker 2: a great shooting team from three. They're not a great

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Speaker 2: shooting team from two. They hestd thirteen of fourteen from

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Speaker 2: the line. Though, you get upset when that happens with

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Speaker 2: as bad as this team is. The free throw shooting

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Speaker 2: that they lose the ninety two game. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, offensively they are not good And it comes

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Speaker 2: down to one simple thing though. In a matchup with

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Speaker 2: high level teams in the Big twelve, Cincinnati's had a

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Speaker 2: significant disadvantage at guard and that was evident last night.

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Speaker 2: They had an opportunity to be better than Arizona's guards,

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Speaker 2: who didn't play all that well, and they were significantly worse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I watched that game to the lens

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Speaker 1: of this is this is the barometer, right, this is

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Speaker 1: the standard against which all Big twelve teams are going

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Speaker 1: to be measured. Nothing against Iowa STATEA look, maybe Arizona

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Speaker 1: doesn't win the Big twelve, who knows, Maybe Arizona gets

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Speaker 1: beaten early in the in the NCAA tournament. But I

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Speaker 1: would have went Big twelve one day, right, I want

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Speaker 1: to play in games where there's a single digit number

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Speaker 1: next to Cincinnati, and for the for the progress the

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Speaker 1: Bearcats have made over the last couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 1: as well as they played against Iowa State, and as

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Speaker 1: cool as it was for them to win that game,

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Speaker 1: I looked at Arizona, I looked at Cincinnati, and the

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Speaker 1: distance between the two feels like it's it's, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's so expansive that I'm having a hard time even

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Speaker 1: imagining the Bearcats looking like that anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I would State was

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Speaker 2: number two in the country and Cincinnati matched up. I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of it is matchups, style of play styles,

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Speaker 2: make fights. Arizona was a bad style for Cincinnati, But

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Speaker 2: ultimately you are from that prism looking at the number

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Speaker 2: one team in the country. And it's certainly even you know,

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Speaker 2: four days after beating the number two team in the country,

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Speaker 2: it certainly felt like Arizona was quite a bit further

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Speaker 2: along in the process than Cincinnati. I really like Tommy

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Speaker 2: Lloyd as a coach. They run really good stuff on offense.

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Speaker 2: They're very difficult to guard. I do want to make

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Speaker 2: a correction to Wes Miller, Tony Pike, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of people that I've heard yesterday and today about that game.

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Speaker 2: Arizona's not a bad three point shooting team. Well, I

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Speaker 2: said it last night in the both games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, they shoot.

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Speaker 2: What would you give for Cincinnati to shoot thirty six

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Speaker 2: and a half percent from three over a season?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were I think going into last

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Speaker 1: night six in the Big twelve and three point shooting.

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Speaker 1: I think they were like forty fifth in the country.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I heard folks say that, I heard

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Speaker 1: Tony say it, and I'm like, you know that, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mess with what I've seen. I've seen a team

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Speaker 1: that doesn't shoot a lot, and I think they're on

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Speaker 1: the lower end of you know, power four, power five

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Speaker 1: teams take three point shooting in ten but they're not

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Speaker 1: a bad outside shooting team.

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Speaker 2: No, that one was like, I think we're missing on

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Speaker 2: the fact that they don't make a lot of threes

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Speaker 2: a game, as they're not a good shooting team wins.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time since Cincinnati's had a team

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Speaker 2: shoots thirty six and a half percent from three collectively.

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Speaker 2: If that's bad, man, we got a long way to

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Speaker 2: go to be bad. They're well constructed. They're well constructed

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Speaker 2: as a team. They've got a couple of really good

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Speaker 2: veteran guards, some awesome freshmen, they've got size, they're well coached. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're They're definitely the talk of the Big twelve so

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Speaker 2: far this year for a million reasons.

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Speaker 1: Can the bear Cats be Arizona State?

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Speaker 2: Boy? They better? I don't know if you've monitored things.

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Speaker 2: Bobby Hurley, who's not as endearing as his brother that

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Speaker 2: is a friend of this show. Bobby's talking about, I

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Speaker 2: can't reach my team. They're not taking the coaching. They

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Speaker 2: don't respond, they don't listen. I'm sure he's trying to

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Speaker 2: use that to light a fire under them. They've got

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Speaker 2: some And here's here's always the concern, Bo even as

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Speaker 2: you get to the bottom teams in this league. They've

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Speaker 2: all got some guards that can put up buckets. And

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Speaker 2: if Cincinnati's off that night, disaster always loss. The question

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Speaker 2: is can they keep their confidence up even after how

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Speaker 2: the last ten minutes played out in Tucson. So far,

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Speaker 2: this has been a resilient team for the most part.

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Speaker 2: But boy, they really got their butt kicked. So butts

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Speaker 2: kicked over those last ten minut that's how today bounce

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Speaker 2: back and I will and I know this is what

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Speaker 2: this is. I say this is a grain of salt

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Speaker 2: mo because McK cronin. Mc cronin was very good at

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Speaker 2: finding things and still is maybe the best at finding

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Speaker 2: things to self motivate. Is that a good way to

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Speaker 2: put it. Mick hated the second game of a long

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Speaker 2: road trip, and they went out to Arizona on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: I mean, god knows when they're going to get back.

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Speaker 2: They're certainly not going to be able to get back

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Speaker 2: in town Saturday night after the game. I wouldn't think.

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Speaker 2: So it's a long trip, you just got your butt kicked.

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Speaker 2: How do these guys handle today and tomorrow? Getting Rednan

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Speaker 2: all day on Saturday waiting for that game at ten

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Speaker 2: o'clock Saturday night. You're playing a team that's not good,

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Speaker 2: but you're playing a team that that has some talent

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Speaker 2: that is probably gonna win a couple games on their

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Speaker 2: home floor. Can wes Miller avoid something that has been

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Speaker 2: a problem for Wes Miller, and that is going on

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Speaker 2: the road against a wounded animal like Arizona State and losing.

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Speaker 2: This is one they absolutely have to win if we're

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Speaker 2: gonna keep any level of interest in this season beyond.

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Speaker 2: Does Cincinnati make a coaching change?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: So if they do that right, they get a chance

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Speaker 1: to come home and play three of the next four

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Speaker 1: at fifth third. Baylor's not very good. They do have

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Speaker 1: to go to Houston. That's gonna be a problem. Come

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Speaker 1: home for West Virginia, a team they should have beaten

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Speaker 1: the first time. Come home for UCF, a team they

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Speaker 1: should have beaten the first time. At Kansas State, the

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Speaker 1: Wildcats are not very good. Play Utah here the youths

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Speaker 1: are putrid. Like, okay, some of those are fifty to

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Speaker 1: fifty games, are probably not gonna win them all. But

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Speaker 1: I look at it like this, if you could a

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Speaker 1: get a Tempee and Arizona State, which you should the

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Speaker 1: schedule does open up a little bit, and they do

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Speaker 1: have a chance. I am not gonna say they're gonna

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Speaker 1: make the NCAA tournament, but if you're hoping to watch

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Speaker 1: them win some games and change the conversation in season

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Speaker 1: a little bit, the schedule does present those opportunities, and

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Speaker 1: the team that I've watched play three of the three

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Speaker 1: and a quarter of the last four games, can can

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Speaker 1: reel off some wins.

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Speaker 2: They can. I mean, that's the right back to that

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Speaker 2: same thing we talked about me, can Wes Miller put

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Speaker 2: this team in a position to win some of these

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Speaker 2: A games you should win and be coin flip games,

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Speaker 2: because if you look at the last two years since

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Speaker 2: they've joined the Big twelve, mo, if they would just

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Speaker 2: have won a couple more of those type games, we

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be talking about Wes Miller on the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: We'd be talking about can Cincinnati make their third tournament

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Speaker 2: a row, their third tournament in a row, or their

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Speaker 2: second out of three since joining the Big twelve? Because

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00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: two years ago that was they lost a bunch of

626
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Speaker 2: close games, the Oklahoma State game, the West Virginia game,

627
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Speaker 2: like there were games that could have got them to

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00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: nine and nine, ten and eight that would have gotten

629
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Speaker 2: them in the tournament. That look a lot like this

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Speaker 2: stretch of five games that's coming up. So I had

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Speaker 2: what success, four and one, three and two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they again taking how they've played, including how

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Speaker 1: they played for a stretch last night that combined with

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Speaker 1: how the schedule does even ease up, they do have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity. We'll see if they take advantage. That's a big,

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Speaker 1: big if.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: As always, there is a chance for momentum.

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Speaker 2: No, that's all you can ask for a chance. Thank

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Speaker 2: you as well. And I hope you've stocked up on

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00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: cigars and bourbon.

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Speaker 1: I do that no matter what the weather is. But yes,

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Speaker 1: I am well stocked for the weekend and the looming apocalypse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got the off season covered. It's interesting if

653
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Speaker 1: you if you follow the Bengals fans on Twitter, a

654
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: lot of folks who cover the Bengals or podcast about

655
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: the Bengals. I feel like already, and the NFL season

656
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: is not even over yet, but I feel like already,

657
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: Like I've read about like fifteen different players ANGLE should

658
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: take with their first round pick. Like I, I kind

659
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: of made a maybe not so much of a New

660
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Year's resolution. I mean I did make I did make

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00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: a New Year's resolution that has nothing to do with sports,

662
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: nothing to do with my job. I also rewarded myself

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Speaker 1: for keeping my New Year's resolution lay No. My New

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Speaker 1: Year's resolution last year was I was going to interact

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Speaker 1: as little as pop as possible with anonymous people on

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Speaker 1: social media, and I stuck to it. But I kind

667
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Speaker 1: of said, you know what, I'm gonna dive more into

668
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Speaker 1: the draft than I typically do. And typically number one,

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Speaker 1: we do a show on Draft night, and so there's

670
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Speaker 1: always an intense amount of prep for it. But like

671
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Speaker 1: I just I have felt like in recent years, we

672
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Speaker 1: get a lot of experts on I want to know,

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00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: maybe not as much about them, but close, and so

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00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: I want to do that at the same time, like

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00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: who the Bengals should draft, who they should take in

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00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: the first I want that to be informed, at least

677
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: in large part by what they do or don't do

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00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: in free agency. It is impossible to imagine the Bengals

679
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: being substantially better next season without absolutely crushing it in

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00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: free agency. Now, that does not mean they shouldn't draft well.

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00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: At some point this franchise, repeatedly, year in and year out,

682
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: are gonna need draft classes that yield instant dividends. Like

683
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: no more red shirts. I can't do any more, Dax

684
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: hills we can't do any more. Miles Murphy's like the

685
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: draft class, we can't do anymore, show our Stewart. It's

686
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: like it's you can only do so much if players

687
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: get hurt. But even that twenty twenty three draft class,

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00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: we only really started to talk about it as a

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00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: whole this year. Can't wait three years before we talk

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00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: about an entire class. So yes, obviously this franchise has

691
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: to get really good and stay really good at drafting

692
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: players who make an immediate impact. This is a cheap

693
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: labor league. This is not a developmental league. They need

694
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: cheap labor. They need dudes who show up. You're not

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00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: paying them all that much and they give you a lot.

696
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: But it is impossible to imagine the Bengals in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six being substantially better if the Bengals don't nail

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00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: it in free agency. And so, like the whole you know,

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Speaker 1: who should they draft and who are the best? Obviously

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Speaker 1: Duke Tobin and his staff should be working hard on that,

701
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: but this is an off season. They this is a

702
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: gross oversimplification. But like, who's this year's version of DJ Reader?

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00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: You can't tell me it's gonna be TJ. Slayton. Who's

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00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: this year's version of DJ Reader? Maybe not somebody you overpay,

705
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: and they didn't overpay DJ Reader because they had to.

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Speaker 1: But who is a guy that plays that position that

707
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: can provide pass rush up the middle? Who's maybe not

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00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: a household name one of the great I don't know misnomers.

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Speaker 1: If that's the right word about free agency is well,

710
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: you got to go make splash signings or the Bengals

711
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: aren't gonna spend wildly. Bengals don't need to spend wildly.

712
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: They need to spend wisely. Change one letter, not wildly wisely.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's two letters. When the Bengals use free

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Speaker 1: agency to build that championship defense in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't making splash, you know, signings. When they acquired

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, I think everybody's first reaction was, are we

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00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: sure he's better than Carl Lawson? Like we did the

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Speaker 1: entire thing where we went up and down like Trey

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00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: Hendrickson sacks that last year where he kind of broke

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Speaker 1: out in New Orleans and kind of broke it down

721
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Speaker 1: and looked at him like, all right, you know, was

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Speaker 1: he the benefit of great coverage? Was he just a

723
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Speaker 1: sack compiler, you know, getting sacks on passing? It was

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00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: not a household name played into one here should Oba

725
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Speaker 1: a Woozier. When the Bengals got should Oba a Woozier,

726
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: many said, wait a minute, why did they do that?

727
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Speaker 1: Not as good as William Jackson and up and down

728
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: the list, Mike Hilton, Von Bell, so many of them,

729
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: and so I'm looking for and I think if you're

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Speaker 1: a Bengals fan, you are to some version of those players.

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Speaker 1: And then once they get them, then let's talk about

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Speaker 1: who they draft. And everybody's gonna have their favorites, like

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, as much of a Caleb Downs guys,

734
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Speaker 1: I think anybody obviously there's an Ohio state connection, which

735
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: should not matter, but for a lot of fans it does.

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Speaker 1: You watched him play at high profile games. He's everything

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00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: they've lacked in safety for a very long time. Fair

738
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: to wonder if he's going to be there, fair to

739
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: believe that he could be there, just because of how

740
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: infrequently safeties go in the top ten. But this is

741
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: an off season, yes, largely defined by the draft, but

742
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: there have to be not huge swings in free agency.

743
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: Just hit a few doubles. Starting caliber players at every

744
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: level of the defense, starting caliber players all over the place.

745
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: Maybe some who are ascending. This is not a comparison

746
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: that anybody is gonna like. But when the Bengals got

747
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: Geno Stone, we were excited. I don't remember anybody who

748
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: said they shouldn't have signed Geno Stone. I was excited

749
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Speaker 1: about it because I think you saw a player who

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00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: the more was put on his plate in Baltimore, the

751
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: more heroes to the occasion now at flatline here, and

752
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: I think all of us are going to do cartwheels

753
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: when we find out officially that he's no longer a

754
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: member of this team, but like who fits that profile

755
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: flies maybe a little bit under the radar regardless of position.

756
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: You know, a guy that kind of slowly had to

757
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: earn more playing time, earn more responsibility, and every time

758
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: he did, he met the occasion. Who's this year's version

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Speaker 1: of a player like that? It's this March. I can't wait.

760
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you're a Bengals fan, and

761
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: God knows I am, you're so eager to turn the

762
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: page from what they were last year to what they

763
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: might be this coming season, you can't wait till March

764
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: because it's it's gonna be fascinating to see which positions

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Speaker 1: they prioritize. I think the absolute test is gonna be

766
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: the approaching linebacker, because it could go one of two ways.

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Speaker 1: One is, hey, Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter accumulated experience,

768
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: and now that experience and the growing pains of last year,

769
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a payoff this year. You can hear it, now,

770
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: can't you? Another year in Al Golden's defense, more familiarity,

771
00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: they go through their first real NFL offseason, they'll learn

772
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: from all the issues and growing pains they went through

773
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: last year and the payoff is gonna be better linebacker play.

774
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: You could hear it, you could see it. You could

775
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: also hear or see if they're acting with urgency going

776
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: you know what, it didn't work, We're not gonna run

777
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: it back because we can't take a chance on it

778
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: not working again. That doesn't mean that those players can't

779
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: be a part of next year's team. There is I

780
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Speaker 1: think a world where Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight are

781
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: still you know, decent NFL players and maybe players who contribute.

782
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: But I think it's that to me, is is really

783
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: where the off season conversation gets interesting, because it's I

784
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: think it's hard to for anybody to imagine that they

785
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: don't find, you know, another edge. They don't find another

786
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, somebody who's good at getting after the passers.

787
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: It's hard for I think a lot of us to

788
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: imagine they don't find a corner somewhere, even if it's

789
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: a slot guy. I think it's hard for most to

790
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: imagine that they don't find some safety help, whether it's

791
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: somebody who's depth piece, backup or a Day one starter.

792
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: What do they do at linebacker? Is there another version

793
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: of Oron Buroks. I watched every snap of this season.

794
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I can recall Oron Burkes making

795
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: a tangible contribution to this football team. So is there

796
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: a version of that or do they go get a

797
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: guy who just instantly you know that dude's gonna play

798
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: because it feels like they need at least one. And

799
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: then if it's you know, veteran experienced linebacker who knows

800
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: where to be, knows how to be in position, doesn't

801
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: make assignment errors, can simply tackle a guy who's running

802
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: at him. And if he's occupying one of your linebacker

803
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: spots and then the other is Barrett Carter or Demetrius

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00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: Knight or whatever's behind door number two. I think most

805
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: of us would live with that. What would be hard

806
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: to swa would be we're gonna address the defense in

807
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: all these other areas, but we're bringing back these same

808
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 1: two linebackers who struggled so much as rookies. You're trying

809
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: to win a title in twenty twenty six, you're trying

810
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: to do it again. Get off to a really really

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Speaker 1: fast start in twenty twenty six. And by the way,

812
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: like the whole fast start thing which it's gotten to

813
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: the point that it's cliche. And one of the more

814
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: ironic things about this season was Bengals did get off

815
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: to a fast start. They won their first two games.

816
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: They were doing, oh right, the whole thing what we

817
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: spent months talking about, They've got to get off to

818
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: a fast start. They won their first two games. They

819
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: never do. They finally did. Still didn't make the postseason.

820
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: But the most interesting dynamic for this team right now

821
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: is continuity versus change. Just look in their own division,

822
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: so and then you know, look around the NFL, look

823
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: at some of the teams that they'll be competing with

824
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: in the AFC, like Buffalo. Maybe not a lot of

825
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: change in Kansas City, a though Eric Bienemy's gonna be back.

826
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Speaker 1: But Patrick Mahomes Week one, big question mark. So you

827
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: have new coaches in your division, You're gonna have a

828
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: new coach in Buffalo, Patrick Mahomes TBD Week one. Continuity's

829
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: got to pay off week one, Like, yes, get off

830
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: to a fast start every year. Yes, they've needed to

831
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: prioritize getting off to a fast start, which they did

832
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: last year, but now like start fast so that when

833
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, things get normal in Baltimore, things get normal

834
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, or things get normal and well, things are

835
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: never normal in Cleveland. But you know, by the time

836
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: the situation's there with the new coaches get settled, they've

837
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: got a big game of catch up. Like that's once

838
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: we clear free agency and we clear the draft, there's

839
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: the storyline. Should be a normal offseason for Joe Burrow again. Right,

840
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: But the continuity versus change dynamic matters a lot more

841
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: in September than it will in November. In December. So

842
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: if there's some sort of adjustment period or there's some

843
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: sort of just acclimation process because there's a new coach,

844
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: take advantage Bury those teams early, make them play catch up.

845
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Make them by the time things are settled and the

846
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: acclaimation process is over, they're looking up at you in

847
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: the AFC North, which comes back to knee. Draft picks

848
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: need free agents that can make an immediate impact. Starting

849
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: fast always matters. Starting fast for the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram too. I was told I need to

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Speaker 1: start pumping my Instagram feed where I post pictures and

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Speaker 1: at Mueger five one, three, seven, four nine fifteen thirty

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Speaker 1: will get you in. Justin five of the Cyclones played

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Speaker 1: this weekend in his five hundredth game as a member

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Speaker 1: of that organization. Their best event of the year happens

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Justin, we'll talk about that and his career

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Speaker 1: milestone with us next.

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Speaker 1: This report twenty minutes after four o'clock. This is ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. One of the highlights of the Cincinnati Cyclone

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Speaker 1: season is Saturday, the annual Teddy Bear Toss game. Last year,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the Cyclones collected more than ten thousand bears.

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Speaker 1: The record is more than thirteen thousand, so hopefully we

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Speaker 1: can break that. On Saturday, four o'clock. Puck's gonna drop

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Speaker 1: as the Clones the Battle Fort Wayne. The Fort Wayne

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Speaker 1: comets in town. Justin Vive, Cincinnati Cyclones, all time leader

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Speaker 1: in games played, celebrated this weekend for appearing in his

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Speaker 1: five hundredth game as a member of the Cyclones, is

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Speaker 1: with us. It's good to have you. Congratulations on the milestone, Justin.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 10: I'm good. I appreciate it and excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome to have you five hundred games as a

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Speaker 1: member of this organization. When you think of that number,

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Speaker 1: what things come to mind?

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Speaker 10: Oh, I mean, obviously kind of a wave of emotion,

892
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Speaker 10: obviously realizing how long you've been been playing a sport.

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Speaker 10: But I think the biggest thing to me is just

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Speaker 10: kind of recognizing the franchise and the organization as a whole.

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Speaker 10: You know, anytime somebody hits a number like that with

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Speaker 10: an organization in any sport, you know, obviously they must

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Speaker 10: be doing things right, treating their player as well. And

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Speaker 10: you know, kudos to them because they've made it easy

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Speaker 10: along the way.

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Speaker 1: You know, you thinking, you and I talked about this

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Speaker 1: when you came back to the Cyclones. You played your

902
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Speaker 1: college hockey at Miami. You've been a part of this

903
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Speaker 1: organization for eleven of your fifteen years. So over the

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Speaker 1: last two decades you've made Cincinnati holme. What has it

905
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Speaker 1: been like as somebody who did not grow up here

906
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Speaker 1: sort of carving out an identity in this market.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I guess it's never easy when you first

908
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Speaker 10: arrived somewhere and you're you're in a new city, you

909
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Speaker 10: don't really have any family or friends.

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Speaker 3: But over the years now being.

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Speaker 10: Married to a lady from Cincinnati and having a daughter

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Speaker 10: with her and her family's here and making a ton

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Speaker 10: of friends outside of hockey, it's just been amazing. Now,

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Speaker 10: you know, it's something special that I was able to

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Speaker 10: have people in the building on Saturday to kind of

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Speaker 10: watch that game and have my daughter down on the

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Speaker 10: ice after the game and stuff like that. It's something

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Speaker 10: I guess I never really set out or seeing when

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Speaker 10: you first start, but now that it's kind of came

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Speaker 10: and went, it's just an awesome memory that will happen forever.

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Speaker 1: You have teammates who are like fifteen years your junior,

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Speaker 1: maybe younger than that, right, perhaps closer to your daughter's age.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But like I mean, you have teammates

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Speaker 1: who are just starting their professional careers, twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: years old, young guys, you know, dudes who are just

926
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what being a pro hockey player is. Like,

927
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Speaker 1: how do you relate to those guys?

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Speaker 10: I mean, I guess it's a combination. It's funny that

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Speaker 10: you said that. One of the guys this year, he

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Speaker 10: just turned twenty one, and actually I played with his

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Speaker 10: dad my second year. His dad was my roommate on

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Speaker 10: the road, so it is officially gone full circle through

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Speaker 10: a generation. But I think with that, I guess, just

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Speaker 10: you know, I try to connect with them on things

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Speaker 10: other than hockey.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, no matter what your age is, we all have

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Speaker 3: the love.

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Speaker 10: And the passion for hockey, and that's why we're here,

939
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Speaker 10: But I think if you can kind of connect with

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Speaker 10: them on their family level, friends, girlfriends, wives, even just

941
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Speaker 10: as much as trying to stay as hard as it

942
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Speaker 10: is up to date with all the kind of the

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Speaker 10: pop culture and social media stuff going on. That's kind

944
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Speaker 10: of what I try to do, and that way it

945
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Speaker 10: just kind of stay connected in the conversations and stuff

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Speaker 10: with them.

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Speaker 1: What's the hardest what's the hardest part of this For

948
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Speaker 1: those guys who are breaking in his pros for the first.

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Speaker 10: I'd probably say sorry, you can hear my dog in

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Speaker 10: the back end. But I think it's just the consistency

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Speaker 10: of it all. I think going into college or junior hockey,

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Speaker 10: you kind of are a little bit, you know, guided

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Speaker 10: through things, and I think when you finally make that

954
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Speaker 10: jump to pro hockey, it's it's a huge step. You know,

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Speaker 10: you don't have any billet parents or your coaches or

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Speaker 10: nutrition iss and stuff kind of following you around at

957
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Speaker 10: classes and everything. It's you're officially on your own and

958
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Speaker 10: you just got to make sure you take care of yourself,

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Speaker 10: take care of your body, and just you're ready to

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Speaker 10: go every single day. I think consistency has kind of

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Speaker 10: been the one word that I've preached my whole career

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Speaker 10: to a lot of the young guys.

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Speaker 1: Justin vibe of the Cyclones is with us. The Clones

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Speaker 1: host their Teddy Bear Toss game against Fort Wayne four

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Speaker 1: o'clock on Saturday, five hundred game. Now, typically when when

966
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Speaker 1: you get celebrated for a milestone like that, it's it's

967
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Speaker 1: kind of coming at the close of a career. You're

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Speaker 1: thirty six, I would imagine number one, that after games

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Speaker 1: you feel different than you did when your career started.

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Speaker 1: But I would also imagine, like you you still have

971
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Speaker 1: some hockey left, and you have you started to think

972
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Speaker 1: about the end, how much how much longer do you

973
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Speaker 1: want to play?

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Speaker 10: I mean, I guess I try not to think about

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Speaker 10: the end, because anytime you start thinking that way, it

976
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Speaker 10: just kind of starts to put that doing gloom or

977
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Speaker 10: negativity on the season or on your career. So I

978
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Speaker 10: try not to think about that at all. I mean,

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Speaker 10: I'm I'm feeling great. I feel as good as I

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Speaker 10: did any other year at this point in the season.

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Speaker 10: So I kind of keep telling myself, whether you're thirty six,

982
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Speaker 10: twenty six, whatever it is, if you can still kind

983
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 10: of contribute and help in any way for the team

984
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Speaker 10: to win. That's kind of what I'm focusing on and

985
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 10: just trying to stay healthy. And I guess kind of

986
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Speaker 10: see where this leads. I mean, who knows. I assume

987
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Speaker 10: I'd probably want to stay stay in hockey and some

988
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Speaker 10: kind of facet. Don't know what that would be exactly,

989
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Speaker 10: but I guess the only time will tell.

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Speaker 1: All Right, you talk about how good you feel, and

991
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Speaker 1: I know you're not lying to me, but what does

992
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Speaker 1: the morning after a game feel like at this age

993
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Speaker 1: versus fifteen years ago?

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Speaker 10: I guess it's a twofold question. I'm up a lot

995
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Speaker 10: earlier with my daughter, so that's definitely been an adjustment

996
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Speaker 10: and just kind of getting used to balancing the work

997
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Speaker 10: and home life.

998
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Speaker 2: But I guess, I.

999
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Speaker 3: Mean i'd be lying. One game, I can kind of.

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Speaker 10: I say it's pretty similar, but we get into those

1001
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Speaker 10: stretches of two games in a row, three games in

1002
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Speaker 10: a row.

1003
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Speaker 3: Four games and five nights.

1004
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 10: Those are some pretty rough mornings and definitely kind of

1005
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 10: makes you feel your age. But I mean, I guess

1006
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Speaker 10: just trying to focus more on taking care of yourself

1007
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 10: and your body and getting your sleep and recovery has

1008
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Speaker 10: become a lot more important. I mean, I know a

1009
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Speaker 10: lot of the older guys, you know, the Tom Brady's

1010
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 10: Lebron like, those guys talk about so much how they

1011
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 10: take care of their bodies and that they feel as

1012
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Speaker 10: good as they are because of that. So obviously not

1013
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 10: to that magnitude, but just trying to focus on that more.

1014
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 10: I feel like when you're twenty one, twenty two, I mean,

1015
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Speaker 10: everybody remembers when they.

1016
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Speaker 2: Were in college.

1017
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Speaker 10: You could you could stay up all night studying, partying

1018
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 10: for whatever it was, and wait studying next morning, study

1019
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 10: a couple of exactly studying, and you'd feel just as

1020
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Speaker 10: good as you did with ten hours of sleep. So

1021
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Speaker 10: I think that's definitely the biggest focus for me.

1022
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Speaker 1: You mentioned your guys schedule, and this is something I

1023
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Speaker 1: talked about for for a little while because there was

1024
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Speaker 1: a time we weren't we didn't know if this game

1025
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Speaker 1: on Saturday was going to happen, if it was going

1026
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Speaker 1: to be postponed, because it was a very brief player strike,

1027
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Speaker 1: and I was kind of making the point on this

1028
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: show going through what your your schedule, and when I

1029
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: say you, you and your your fellow EHL players, what

1030
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: the scheduled you guys have and the grind that it is.

1031
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: Did the strike or the new CBA did it make

1032
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: any of that better moving forward?

1033
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Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think that was one of the bigger

1034
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Speaker 10: kind of hot button issues that I know, all sports

1035
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Speaker 10: has been really focusing on lately, with you know, all

1036
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Speaker 10: the sports science data coming out and kind of some

1037
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Speaker 10: of the leagues doing the load management stuff like that.

1038
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Speaker 10: But that was that was definitely one of the big things.

1039
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Speaker 10: It was mainly based around recovery. Like we understand that

1040
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Speaker 10: obviously we're going to be playing two games and two nights,

1041
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Speaker 10: three games and three nights, just because the way the

1042
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Speaker 10: buildings work and the ticket sales and all that, Like,

1043
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Speaker 10: we weren't kind of blind to that, but definitely trying

1044
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Speaker 10: to scheduling more off days, kind of less travel in

1045
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Speaker 10: between games, and then also just focusing on the long

1046
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 10: extended kind of grinds where you know, all of a sudden,

1047
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Speaker 10: you're playing seven games and nine nights in six cities

1048
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Speaker 10: kind of thing. That that's what was one of the

1049
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Speaker 10: bigger issues.

1050
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Speaker 1: I feel like following this season, you guys will go

1051
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Speaker 1: through a four or five game stretch where it feels

1052
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Speaker 1: like you guys are about to take off and go,

1053
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Speaker 1: and then there'll be a three or four game stretch

1054
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Speaker 1: where it feels like you guys spin your tires a

1055
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Speaker 1: little bit. What has to happen for you guys to

1056
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Speaker 1: have more of those stretches where it feels like you

1057
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Speaker 1: guys are about to take off and go.

1058
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Speaker 10: I'd say the internal just kind of growth. We have

1059
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Speaker 10: an extremely young team, and I know that there's definitely

1060
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Speaker 10: growing pains with any team that's that young. But I

1061
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Speaker 10: think with that, I think we just you know, we

1062
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Speaker 10: need to stop I guess, for lack of better terms,

1063
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Speaker 10: kind of shooting.

1064
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Speaker 3: Ourselves in the foot.

1065
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Speaker 10: Well, you know, we'll play great for a period or

1066
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Speaker 10: two periods and then kind of whether we let off

1067
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Speaker 10: the gas or we make a couple just mistakes that

1068
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Speaker 10: let them kind of get back into games. We just

1069
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Speaker 10: got to, you know, like back to what I said earlier,

1070
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Speaker 10: just pick up that kind of consistency that is required

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Speaker 10: in pro sports and just bring the same kind of

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Speaker 10: level of effort and execution every night.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk specifically about Saturday. Now, you're you're

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Speaker 1: going to be focused on winning the game against Fort Wayne,

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Speaker 1: a team you've played for, but it's the Teddy Bear

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Speaker 1: Toss and you've been the Teddy Bear goalscorer I think

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Speaker 1: three times, which is really cool for the uninitiated. This

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Speaker 1: is an awesome event. It's really important what happens on Saturday.

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Speaker 11: Oh.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I think it's probably the coolest kind of

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Speaker 10: a game or event in sports from a fan perspective.

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Speaker 10: And I guess everybody because you know, everybody is involved, interactive.

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Speaker 10: You know, the first goal score to the of the

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Speaker 10: game for us. Anybody that brings Teddy Bears to the game,

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Speaker 10: you could bring one, ten, twenty. I've seen huge garbage

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Speaker 10: bags full. There's no limit, and basically you just have

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Speaker 10: fun and chuck them on the ice and.

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Speaker 3: You just watch bears rain for about three.

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Speaker 10: To five minutes street. You know, there's police cars out there,

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Speaker 10: there's sirns, there's music. It's a whole spectacle in the

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Speaker 10: best way possible. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 10: it's awesome because it's all for a great cause, no.

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Speaker 1: Question about it. The Bears go to the Cincinnati Police

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Speaker 1: and Fire helps out their efforts with children who are

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Speaker 1: faced with difficult situations when officers are in the field,

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Speaker 1: and the rest of the Bears go to Matthew twenty

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Speaker 1: five's ministries. There are global relief efforts. There were bears

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Speaker 1: from this event last year that made it as far

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Speaker 1: as the Ukraine, so you're helping out on a global

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Speaker 1: level as well, in additional to a local one. It

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Speaker 1: is an awesome cause. It should be a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun on Saturday. Cyclones Hockey dot Com for tickets. Justin,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on the milestone. We'll talk after game number one thousand.

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Speaker 11: Okay, all right, sounds good.

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Speaker 10: I'll hold you to it.

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Speaker 1: We'll make that happened. Definitely. Congratulations, justin, Thanks so much, Aye,

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Speaker 1: thank you, justin Vive of the Cincinnati Cyclones. The Clones

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Speaker 1: hosting Fort Wayne four o'clock Saturday is when the puck

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Speaker 1: is gonna drop and again, bring a Teddy Bear. Bring

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Speaker 1: as many bears as you want, chuck them on the

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Speaker 1: ice after the Clone score their first goal. It's a

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Speaker 1: fun visual. It's an awesome cause. And I know a

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Speaker 1: handful of Cincinnati police officers who have been directly involved

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Speaker 1: with this, and they talk about how far something as

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Speaker 1: simple as having a Teddy Bear at their disposal can

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Speaker 1: be when you know there's a situation and there's an

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Speaker 1: innocent child involved and what that little stuffed animal can

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Speaker 1: do to comfort them. So go to the game on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: shower the ice with bears, and hopefully see the Cyclones

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Speaker 1: get a victory. We are late twenty seven away from

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Speaker 1: five o'clock sports headlines. Next ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: aren't going to be hiring Dan Pitcher to be their

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator because they have hired Zach Robinson, Tennessee makes

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Speaker 1: it official Robert solid new head coach of the Titans

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Speaker 1: college basketball. This is the only tip off time that

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Speaker 1: has been moved that I have seen, actually two of them.

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Speaker 1: The nk you men's game on Saturday against Wright State

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01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a seven o'clock tip off at

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Speaker 1: the Nutter Center. That game instead is going to start

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Speaker 1: at one PM. So keep that in mind if you're

1144
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: thinking of going to that game, or if you have tickets.

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01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: One o'clock on Saturday. The snow, according to most is

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Speaker 1: expected to hit, you know, kind of mid to late afternoon.

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Speaker 1: We will see. I'm not a meteorologist. We might have

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Speaker 1: to get a weather person. We might have to bother

1149
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: Jennifer ketch Mark tomorrow because by tomorrow all anybody will

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Speaker 1: be talking about is the snow. I did see that

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Speaker 1: the UC women's game on Saturday, which was scheduled for

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Speaker 1: a two o'clock tip off against Arizona State, that has

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Speaker 1: been moved to a noon tip off. I'm doing this

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Speaker 1: off the top of my head. We just talked with

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Speaker 1: Justin Vive of the Cyclones. That game is scheduled for

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Speaker 1: four o'clock. I have not seen anything suggesting that that

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Speaker 1: face off time is going to be moved. Xavier has

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Speaker 1: a day game, a men's day game. It's obviously the

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Speaker 1: Patino Bowl, Richard versus Rick. Uh. That game is scheduled

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Speaker 1: to tip off at two point thirty. That's a TNT

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Speaker 1: double header, the second game of a TNT Biggies doubleheader Georgia,

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Speaker 1: Georgetown and Providence of the first game. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how that may or may not complicate things, but as

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Speaker 1: of now, the Xavier tip off time remains two thirty.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that could move.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be interesting. The Bearcats. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: this with Chad. The Bearcats are playing Arizona State late

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night. It's gonna be fascinating to see if

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Speaker 1: they get back to town in time. UH So, there

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Speaker 1: you go. We'll keep you up to date on anything

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Speaker 1: that may have moved or ultimately gets canceled. Hockey tonight,

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jackets skate against Dallas. We have we've not

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Speaker 1: taken a phone call today. Our lines are open five

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Speaker 1: point three seven four nine fifteen thirty at eight six

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Speaker 1: six seven h two three seven seven six. The big

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Speaker 1: problem with last night's UC game. Is not that they lost.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not that they lost by a lopsided final margin.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it is coming up at five

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Speaker 1: oh five right now, though we have Mike, Mike, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 11: Well, you caught me off sard a little bit, thank you,

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Speaker 11: though you're very welcome. I really think that I'm sorry,

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Speaker 11: mo I, I'm sorry. Just give me one second.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, FI, I e in my arms.

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Speaker 11: It doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, Mike, you good, all right, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, test off right now. They don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Oh, go ahead.

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Speaker 11: I want to get to Xavier and U see basketball.

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Speaker 11: But uh, I really don't. I really think Denver has

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Speaker 11: more of a chance than people may give them, even

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Speaker 11: with still am a quarterback. I'll tell you why. Drake

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Speaker 11: May's verse two playoff games have not been impressive.

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Speaker 9: At all, correct, not really correct.

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Speaker 11: And their offensive line is really not that good. I

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Speaker 11: think the Bengals offensive line, other than Orlando Brown is

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Speaker 11: probably as good as New England's. So I give Denver chance.

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Speaker 11: I give him a fighting chance in this game.

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Speaker 1: Buddy, Yeah, I give him a fighting chance. You know,

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Speaker 1: I guess I would love to hang my hat on

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Speaker 1: Denver's defense, but I can't. In the second half of

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Speaker 1: the season it was more inconsistent than I think it

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Speaker 1: was in the first half of the season. A very

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Speaker 1: a very limited Buffalo offense hung thirty on them in

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Speaker 1: regulation last week. But at the end of the day, like,

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Speaker 1: all right, Drake May hasn't been awesome in the postseason. No,

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Speaker 1: Jared Stidham is such a wildcard, I mean, just such

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Speaker 1: a wild card. But can I give you a value?

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Speaker 1: Can I? Can I give you a value bet that

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Speaker 1: I think is a lot of fun. And I was

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Speaker 1: just thinking about this, and I was just thinking about this,

1214
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Speaker 1: and I haven't even looked up what the odds are

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Speaker 1: Jared Jared stid him as Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 11: Okay, right with that?

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Speaker 1: Well, if if they the the MVP award historically has

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Speaker 1: been a quarterbacks award. If you believe the Broncos can

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Speaker 1: beat New England, I'm gonna look this up during the break.

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Speaker 1: If you believe the Broncos can beat New England, which

1221
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Speaker 1: they're underdogs five and a half points, well then they'll

1222
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: win away from winning the whole thing. If they win

1223
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: the whole thing, I think you'll have people who give

1224
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Speaker 1: him a vote if it's between him and another guy,

1225
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Speaker 1: because of the story of a dude who's you know,

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Speaker 1: started one NFL game winning the Super Bowl. Like I

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Speaker 1: bet you the the value on that is if you

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Speaker 1: believe Denver can win on Sunday, and I'm taking New England.

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Speaker 1: Although I do think you make a good point. The

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Speaker 1: Broncos do have a good defense, although it's been inconsistent day.

1231
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Speaker 1: Do you have a good offensive line if you believe

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Speaker 1: the Broncos can win that game. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't chase the value on Jared Stidham's Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 11: What's there's what's the number? Is there a number on this?

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Speaker 1: I am I am going to as as you talk

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Speaker 1: about whatever is on your mind. Next, I am gonna

1237
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Speaker 1: pull this up on FanDuel to see.

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Speaker 11: If I can find you're the best. Okay, now, let's

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Speaker 11: get the UC Last night at first half, but I

1240
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 11: was so jacked up. I thought, Baba Miller Man, you're

1241
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 11: looking like a stud. You look like uh, Danny Manning

1242
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Speaker 11: or something. I don't know. I was so jacked up

1243
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 11: and your rookie kid would look so good to left hander.

1244
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 11: I thought, we're we're, we're going to be in this game.

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Speaker 2: Nah.

1246
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 11: Not enough depths, not.

1247
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: Enough, not enough depth, not enough depth, and not enough offense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the lack of offense is a

1249
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,480
Speaker 1: bigger issue. You know, we've talked about it all afternoon.

1250
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: They have struggled in the half court all season long. Well,

1251
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: if you're struggling in the half court against teams like

1252
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: Georgia and Clemson, who are good teams, what's gonna happen

1253
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: when you play a team that looks like the best

1254
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: in the country, and then if you don't have a

1255
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: guy who can go and get you buckets, it sort

1256
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: of amplifies yours your issues in the half court. They

1257
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: just offensively. I thought they defended okay last night, but

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01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: they were gonna have to do things on offense they

1259
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: haven't done all season long, and they didn't. I found it.

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01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: Mike plus seventeen hundred to be so the odds on

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01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: favorite to be Super Bowl MVP are the three quarterbacks.

1262
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: Donald plus two seventy, Stafford plus two to eighty, and

1263
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: May plus three ten. And then from there it's a

1264
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,440
Speaker 1: pretty big. It's a pretty big difference. So then JSN

1265
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: plus twelve hundred Pukinakua plus seventeen hundred. But you could

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Speaker 1: get Jared Stidham Super Bowl MVP right now at plus

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: seven hundred. Wow, Like I, if you believe the Broncos

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: have a chance, I don't know how you don't. Let's

1269
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: just say, drop twenty five on it. That'll pay for

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Like, well, yeah, if you If you think

1271
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: Denver has more than a puncher's chance at home, I

1272
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: don't know then, because obviously the odds are gonna fall

1273
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: significantly if they win the game. So I am gonna

1274
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: make that wager even though I think New England's gonna

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01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: win and I think New England's going to cover, I'm

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01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take my Jared Stidham Super Bowl MVP

1277
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Speaker 1: flyer plus seventeen hundred because the value is insane.

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01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 11: I always follow you, well, not always, but as much

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01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 11: as I can. So thank you Moe for that. Thank

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Speaker 11: you Moe for that. Jimmy de Moo, Greek, gimme the

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Speaker 11: Greek agar whatever. Okay, my last point, real quick, how

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01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 11: cool is this coming up? That at the syntax Patino's

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01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 11: the senior, Patino Junior going for nine hundred. And you

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01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 11: know what people, you and I have talked about, because

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Speaker 11: a lot of people forget about Rick Patino Senior, who

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 11: started as an assistant at the University of Hawaii for

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Speaker 11: crying out loud, then he ended up in Providence with

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01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 11: Ernie di Gregorio back in the day. And then he

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Speaker 11: goes ahead and wins two national championships at two different

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Speaker 11: schools in the same state. So Platino Junior comes from

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01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 11: some serious lineage and he's had to have learned a

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01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 11: whole bunch from dad. And I see Xavier Whites out

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01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 11: in the next few years, I really do.

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Speaker 1: Well. Let me correct you on two things. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that Rick Patino coached Ernie d Gregorio, who played

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Speaker 1: for Providence in the seventies, so I don't think. But yes,

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Speaker 1: Rick Patino did take Providence to the Final four in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven. Number two, Rick Patino's only won one

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 1: national championship, of course.

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Speaker 11: No, he won one at Louisvio and one at Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about the one in Louisville that you're

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01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: talking about. That never happened. Oh my god, look it up, Rick,

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01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 1: go look it up. Rick Patino and Louisville did not

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01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 1: win a national championship.

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 11: That could have scenty one. One at Kentucky too, he

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01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 11: must have got to.

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01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: Wait, won one of Kentucky and ninety the Kentucky won

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: one in ninety six, went to the final four in

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01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: ninety three, played for the championship in nineteen ninety seven,

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01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 1: lost to Arizona and Miles Simon and Mike Bibbie in

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01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: an overtime game. But at Louisville, Rick Patino, he took

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: him to the final four in two thousand and five,

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: but he did not win a nation the NCAA. I'm

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01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: looking at it right now. List of national champions I

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01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: don't see the Louisville. Louisville's last national title. I'm looking

1316
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: at it right now. Nineteen eighty six, Tanny Crumb, Purvis

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: Ellison beat Duke in the final.

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01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 11: Wagner, Nope, Wagner and all them guys.

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, let's not do this, Brough. I've seen Kevin wear broadleage.

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: They I'm looking right now. The official n C Double

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Speaker 1: A n C double A dot Com College.

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Speaker 12: We know what we saw. They beat Michigan.

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01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: List of college basketball national champions I don't see Louisville

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01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: listed beyond nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty.

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 11: Six, Karen, I know he won two national championships. I

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01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 11: would go to my grade saying that.

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: I can only I can only go by what the

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Speaker 1: record books say.

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Speaker 12: I'm going by what I told me. I watched it.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't mind. I don't have any

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01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: recollection of that. So I had to look it up

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01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: on the internet, and uh, I don't what year was that?

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01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 12: Tarran twenty thirteen Louisville, Michigan in the National Championship game.

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01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 12: Kevin were broken nasty.

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01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: Well, that didn't happen in international happened in an Elite

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01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: eight game.

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01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 12: Right, But I don't know it was on their path

1338
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 12: to the National Championship game.

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01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking at NCUBA dot com D one men's basketball history.

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01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: What your two thousand? It's actually funny, and I'm obviously joking.

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 1: It's funny. If you go to NCAA dot com, they

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01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: still list Louisville as a national champion. I'm messing with you, Mike,

1343
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: but here's my take. Are you ready for it? I'm

1344
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: being silly. I think I think Rick Patino is the

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01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: greatest college basketball coach of all time.

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01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, over John Wooden, and that kills me to say that,

1347
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 11: but he is. He is.

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01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think with Rick Patino, it's the number

1349
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: of schools he's won at. I obviously do count the

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen because I did see it with my own

1351
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: eyes they beat Michigan in a fun national title game.

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: It's the number of schools he's won at. I also

1353
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: think people and he did this in the late eighties

1354
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: in the NBA too, but he really leaned into it

1355
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: in college. So the three point revolution that we've enjoyed

1356
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: over the last few decades, when Rick Patino decided to

1357
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: embrace and weaponize the three while playing presty defense, that

1358
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: was revolutionary. Now everybody shoots threes, but like I remember

1359
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: those Kentucky teams really leaning into the three, and it

1360
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: it changed to a large degree how the game was played.

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01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: I think Rick Patino is the greatest college basketball coach

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: of all time. Also, with my Knicks, he won an

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01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: Atlantic Division title in nineteen eighty nine. Now you're gonna

1364
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: be find folks who say Mike, you know, Mike Krzyzewski

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01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: or Dean Smith or Bob Knight. That's all I ain't.

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01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: Rick Patino is the greatest college basketball coach of all time.

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01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: And yes he did win two national titles, and it's

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01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: ridiculous to say that he did in twenty thirteen. I

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01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: like to do that because it needles Louisville people, and

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01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: I like doing that.

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01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 11: Oh you just did it to me, and I thought

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01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 11: we were better than that. But anyway, was that is

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01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 11: ben No, you know what, I'll tell you what, brother,

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01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 11: you that's the worst you've ever done me right there? Okay,

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01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 11: so you owe me one more question, Okay, go ahead.

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01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 11: Was Patino the coachman? Bernard was there?

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Speaker 3: No?

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01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 9: Okay, No, he was?

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01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: You know what he was?

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 11: He was?

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01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was he was an assistant. He was an assistant. No.

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01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: So Patino went to Providence goes to the final four

1383
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: in eighty seven with Billy Donovan. That was the final

1384
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: four with Syracuse and Indiana in the final and Keith

1385
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: Smart made the shot Indiana's most recent college basketball national championship.

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01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: He went from Providence to the Knicks, and by then

1387
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,839
Speaker 1: Bernard King was a Washington bullet.

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Speaker 11: Okay, god, my my top one of my five favorite

1389
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 11: NBA players all times, Bernard King without.

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01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: Yes, my all time favorite, My all time favorite NBA.

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Speaker 11: Thanks, Mo, appreciate your time. Like I'm not completely plowed

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01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 11: out of my mind. Damn. Oh that's harsh when you

1393
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 11: start treating cancer victims like that.

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01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: Oh, no, you're gonna make me feel bad. I'm just

1395
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: messing with you. Mike.

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Speaker 11: Hey, a blood pressure go off to two oh seven.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good or bad, Mike or

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Speaker 1: We're always thinking of you. Thank you, thank you very much.

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01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: That was that was my That was my I like

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01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: doing that. But yeah, I think Rick Patino, who goes

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01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 1: for win number nine hundred against his son on Saturday,

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01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: I believe Rick Patino is the greatest college basketball coach

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01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: of all time. If you asked me to win a game,

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01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: maybe maybe not start a program, but to win a

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01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: game college basketball coach at the last forty years, who

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01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: do I want to win that game with? I'll say

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01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: Rick Patino. And that may anger some people. And if

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01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 1: that opinion angers you, I then it's your problem for

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01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: letting a sports opinion anger you. But yeah, I think

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01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: Rick Rick Patino is the greatest college basketball coach of

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01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: all time. We are way late because I don't know

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01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: how to read a clock seven away from five o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of college basketball coaches, Wes Miller's team last night

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01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: defended well well, they didn't play offense very well. The

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Speaker 1: problem isn't a loss in January. The problem is November

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Speaker 1: and December. We need to start talking about these college

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Speaker 1: basketball seasons differently. In the Big twelve. I'll make that

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Speaker 1: having a boss boss. And we said Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: The best part of this week has been getting off

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01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 4: work in six and like leaving ten after six, especially

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01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 4: like headed west, there's still like traces of daylight.

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01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: Like it's it's been miserably cold, and it's been windy,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get somewhere between five and five thousand

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01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: inches of snow this weekend. But at least there's a little,

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Speaker 1: if not light at the end of the tunnel, at

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Speaker 1: least a little bit more light later in the day.

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Speaker 1: And makes makes me happy. You see, winning last night

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: would have made me happy. Bearcats lose to Arizona and

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01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: we were talking about this last hour. So Cincinnati gets

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01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: beat by the Wildcats. They lose to the number one

1452
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: team in the country. They lose a game that was

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01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: a six point game at halftime. Let's be honest, wasn't

1454
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: really a point in that game. Even when the Bearcats

1455
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: were hanging in there where you felt like they're going

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01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: to win, they lose by twenty six. For u SE

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01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: to win that game last night, they were gonna have

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01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: to do things they've done well all season long, like

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01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: play defense. And for much of the game last night,

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01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: you see, defensively was fine. They weren't perfect, but they

1461
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: were fine. They were good enough to stay in the

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01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: game for much of the night. But they were gonna

1463
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: have to be something on offense they haven't been all

1464
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: season long. They were gonna have to be great from

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01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: behind the arc. You see, came into last night dead

1466
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: last in the big twelve in three point shooting percentage.

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01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: They were gonna have to be awesome last night. Not

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01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: merely better than they usually are, but awesome. Well, they weren't.

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01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: They went four for twenty one. They were gonna have

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01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: to be excellent at taking care of the ball. Fourteen

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01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: turnovers last night. That number only tells part of the story.

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01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: The bigger number for me is percentage of possessions that

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01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: end in a turnover. Last night, that number was twenty

1474
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: one point nine percent, so close to one quarter of

1475
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: UC's possessions against the top rated team in college basketball.

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01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: They didn't even get off a shot, turned it over

1477
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: in one way or another. They were gonna have to

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01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 1: be more efficient on offense. Well, they finished with point

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Speaker 1: seven nine to seven points per possession. Nobody wants to

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01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 1: get bogged down at a bunch of stats, so I'm

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01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. But just to put that in context,

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01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: if you went an entire season scoring point seven nine

1483
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: to seven points per possession, you will finish dead last

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01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: in that metric among all three hundred and sixty five

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01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 1: Division one men's college basketball programs. So they were gonna

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01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: have to be things they haven't been all season long.

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01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: At face value, you losing that game doesn't matter. The

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01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: big issue for me last night wasn't the game, how

1489
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: they played, the outcome. It was the fact that they

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01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: went into that game with eight losses. Right like, frame

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Speaker 1: it this way, if they go into last night fourteen

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Speaker 1: and four, that game going into it is viewed as

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01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: here's a golden opportunity, here's a resume booster. But if

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01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: they lose, who cares? Not gonna kill their resume? Maybe

1495
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity, but who cares doesn't torpedo your season.

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Speaker 1: Had they gone into last night, let's say twelve and six,

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Speaker 1: Let's say they beat Eastern Michigan Xavier. We'll talk about

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01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: the Muskies last night here in a second. But let's

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01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: say they go into last night twelve and six. All right,

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01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 1: missed opportunity. It's a seventh loss, which is last the

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01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: night ideal. They've got some ground to make up here,

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01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: but you know what, at least the result matters. I

1503
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: think the frustrating thing about a game like that last

1504
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: night is if they win, they're eleven and eight. It

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01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: may have jump started their season, and the schedule does

1506
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: soften up a little bit here starting on Saturday night,

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01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: where you could have maybe talked yourself into them going

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01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: on a little bit of a run. And by the way,

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01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: I think it can be dead wrong about this, but

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01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to believe that starting on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: if you take the way they have played for much

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Speaker 1: of the last two weeks, they could go on a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a run here and at least be interesting,

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Speaker 1: or at least make the conversation about what they're doing

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Speaker 1: on the floor instead of what's gonna happen with the

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Speaker 1: head coach at the end of the season, But I

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01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: was thinking about this after the game last night. Last

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01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: night was lost. Number nine, you see has lost four

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01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: games in conference play last season. You see went into

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01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 1: conference play with one loss to Villanova on the road

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01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: early December. Say what you want about their schedule. I'm

1522
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: not really sure prepared Uce for Big Twelve play. But

1523
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: they played three true road games. Played Xavier beat the Musketeers,

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01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: played Dayton, what we all thought was gonna be a

1525
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,879
Speaker 1: good Dayton team on a neutral floor. When into conference

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01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: play with one loss, still didn't make the tournament, still

1527
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't come close. But when conference play ended, you felt

1528
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: pretty good about the loss total. So you knew that

1529
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: they had some losses coming in the Big Twelve. You

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01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: knew that was gonna happen. Maybe not as many as

1531
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: they lost, but you knew they were gonna lose games.

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01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: But they built in a margin for error. The problem

1533
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: with this year's team no margin for error. Once Big

1534
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Twelve play started by losing the games they did, and

1535
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, in a vacuum, each one of those losses

1536
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: could be forgiven, some more so than others. A Georgia

1537
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,799
Speaker 1: team they played in Atlanta's pretty good. I'm not really

1538
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: sure how good Louisville is. But when they played him

1539
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: in November, folks were talking about them in like final

1540
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: four terms, lost essentially a road game to Clemson. You know,

1541
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: this is not a great Xavier team. Musketeer felt like

1542
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: they were there for the taking. Obviously, there's a quarter

1543
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: of a century long losing streak for UC at the

1544
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: centa Center that just hangs over that game every time

1545
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: Xavier hosts it. But it's not a great Xavier team.

1546
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: You see was favored. Okay, fine, Still, it's a rivalry game.

1547
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: Those are tough to win, even the Eastern Michigan loss, which,

1548
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: by the way, that team is nine to ten on

1549
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: the season. Keep that in mind when you talk about

1550
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: not only Eastern Michigan beating Uce, but the season that

1551
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: Miami is having. But okay, fine, off night, you lose

1552
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: a by game, not ideal, doesn't happen that often, but

1553
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 1: it does, like in a vacuum, each one of those games,

1554
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: you kind of shrug your shoulders, add them all up,

1555
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: and there's no margin for air in the Big twelve.

1556
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: So that's got to be a thing moving forward, And

1557
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: it's got to be a thing moving forward in a

1558
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: day and age where there's less continuity than ever. You

1559
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 1: have to schedule well enough so that it helps you

1560
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 1: with your resume, helps you from a metrics perspective. You've

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01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: got to edule tough enough that it prepares you for

1562
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. But you also have to survive that schedule,

1563
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: like in a league like this that is unforgiving, where

1564
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: you're playing Texas Tech, Iowa State, Houston, a terrific Arizona team.

1565
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, we used to talk about the American Athletic

1566
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: Conference and how the schedule worked against UC because there

1567
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: weren't a lot of great teams, but there were all

1568
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: these land mines where you would find schools sub two

1569
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: hundred in the net, and you know, the margin for

1570
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: error wasn't there, because if you lost a game to

1571
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 1: like a crappy USF team or allows E Tulsa team,

1572
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 1: the metrics just killed you. That's kind of a thing

1573
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: in the past. Now moving forward, no bad losses in

1574
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Maybe some teams that aren't great, but

1575
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: no losses metrics are going to destroy you. But now

1576
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: it's kind of the opposite. If you don't play well

1577
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: and win enough games in the non conference, once you

1578
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: get into Big twelve play, those individual losses kill you.

1579
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 1: Problem with last night was Cincinnati had eight losses going in.

1580
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,839
Speaker 1: So one of the things I'm curious about moving forward,

1581
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: regardless of who the head coach is, can they be

1582
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: better in November and December? And they were good enough

1583
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: last year. I'm not sure how well they played, but like,

1584
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: can they be good enough in November and December? By

1585
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: the way, it's easier to be good in November and December.

1586
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,799
Speaker 1: If there's some continuity, that's harder than ever to achieve.

1587
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: But like, that's to me, that's the story of the

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01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: season that once Big twelve play started, you needed to

1589
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: do better than you were probably capable of doing because

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01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: of all the games they lost in non conference play.

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Speaker 1: The Xavier game last night, I felt bad for Richard

1592
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: Patino's team. Trey Carroll was awesome, Philip Orovichenen was really good.

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01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 1: Last night. It felt like seven or eight minutes into

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01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: the game like it was already on the verge of

1595
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 1: getting away. And not only did it not get away,

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01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: the Musketeers were in a position to win the game,

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01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: and I thought there were a couple of times when

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01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: they would go up by four where it felt like

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01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: if they get a stop, maybe they're not home free,

1600
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: but you love their chances and they just couldn't get

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01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: that stop. I thought the whistle last night was tough,

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01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: like I am. Maybe I'm I'm like you, but I

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01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 1: roll my eyes whenever I see or hear people instantly

1604
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: defer to how bad the officiating is. But I think

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01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: in a game like that that was this close, decided

1606
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: on a shot made after an offensively rebounded miss free throw,

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01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: I get why if you're a Xavier fan, you had

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01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: a grit. That was one of those games that was

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01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: there for the taking, and you just wonder in this

1610
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 1: league on the road, say which one about the quality

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01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: of the Big East this year? Games like that you

1612
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: gotta get and you know, like with you, you see,

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01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: we're not talking about the Musketeers and NCAA tournament terms.

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01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 1: But it was still a gut punch of a loss.

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01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: And that was one of the rare occasions where I

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01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: would understand why anybody would default to how bad the

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01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 1: officiating was tough loss for the Muskies. We talked last

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01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: hour about the Patino Bowl on Saturday, Richard versus Rick,

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01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Saint John's versus x U. I know that both Richard

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01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,799
Speaker 1: and Rick Will want to downplay the father versus son dynamic.

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01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Good luck with that quarter. After five Kentucky wins. Last night,

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01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Wildcats played well. The injury bug continues to hit Mark

1623
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: Pope's team. But you know, say what you want about

1624
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: the holes they've dug themselves in, and they've been substantial.

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01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 1: And I watched Big Blue Nation on Twitter at halftime

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01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: of the LSU game and they were destroying and understandably

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01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: so Mark Pope, and same for a stretch against Tennessee.

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01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: They have won four consecutive games. They do have an

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01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 1: above five hundred record in the SEC. They're just one

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01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: game out of first place. Now, you know, we'll see

1631
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,839
Speaker 1: what the rest of the schedule has in store for him.

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01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: The the injury situation with the Wildcats, Cam Williams broke

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01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: his foot last night. You add that to some of

1634
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: the already built in issues. But they have won four

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01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: consecutive games. And if I would have said at halftime

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01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 1: of the LSU game that not only will they win

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01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: that one, but they'll win the next two, you would

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01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: have said no chance. By the way, Sean Miller watching

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01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: Kentucky Texas last night, Sean Miller looks like he's aged

1640
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: about eight years since last March. I like Sean terrific coach.

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01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: Sean looks like he's gotten about five to eight years

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01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: older since he coaches last game at Xavier H ten

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Speaker 1: months ago. Five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty

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Speaker 1: is our phone number. It's been a pretty quiet day.

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01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: Bengals news is good. Dan Pitcher's not going to go

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01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which is a good thing

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01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: for the Bengals. It's maybe not such such a good

1648
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: thing for the for Dan Pitcher. The Bucks have hired

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01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator in Zach Robinson, so it's not going

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01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,480
Speaker 1: to be Dan Pitcher. We'll see if he gets other opportunities,

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01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 1: but he interviewed virtually yesterday and they're not going to

1652
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 1: hire him, so right now he is still the Bengals

1653
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. The National League Central had something really big

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Speaker 1: happened late last night and the Reds are going to

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Speaker 1: benefit from it, and you should still hate it if

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Speaker 1: you're a baseball fan. I'll explain next on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three after five. According to Jordan Schultz, friend of

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Speaker 1: the show, host of The Schultz Report, NFL insider, Jesse

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Speaker 1: Minterter is gonna be the new head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. CONGRATU congratulations to Jesse. Obviously Jesse with major

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati ties. Rick Minner's son, four year starter, four year

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Speaker 1: wide receiver at least at Mount Saint Joe. Congratulations to Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I believe I have I think I have had Jesse

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Speaker 1: on our show way back when, and I don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: I believe it when he was at might have been

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Speaker 1: when he was at Indiana State. I know he was

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Speaker 1: a grad assistant under Brian Kelly, and then I think

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Speaker 1: he was like linebackers coach or secondary coach at Indiana State.

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Speaker 1: And I think for some reason this is wholly, wholly irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Mintter one of the three AFC North teams with

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Speaker 1: head coaching vacancies. It had been reported earlier in the

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Speaker 1: day I think also by Jordan Schultz, that jesse Minter

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Speaker 1: had turned down a second interview with the Baltimore Ravens.

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01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Instead he takes over the or he had turned down

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Speaker 1: a second interview with the Cleveland Browns. My apologies, had

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Speaker 1: turned down a second interview with Cleveland. And now, according

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Speaker 1: to Jordans, said to be the new head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. He leaves Jim Harbaugh staff with the

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Speaker 1: Chargers to take over for John Harball in Baltimore. NAFC

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Speaker 1: North team has settled on its head coach Jesse Minner,

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Speaker 1: who did obviously renowned work at Michigan defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: their teams in twenty twenty two, in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator when they won the national title a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I believe, and yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: has been on Baltimore's staff. He worked under John Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: as an assistant defensive backs coach. He was a defensive

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Speaker 1: assistant defensive backs coach in the COVID year twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: went to Vanderbilt Michigan for a couple of seasons, last

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Speaker 1: two years with the Chargers, and now said to be

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's new head coach. It's interesting, you know. You

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Speaker 1: often hear people talk about NFL teams with vacancies if

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Speaker 1: they have a head coach who was or had a

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Speaker 1: head coach who was let's say, for example, an offensive guy,

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01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 1: that the prevailing wisdom is you replace him with a

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Speaker 1: defensive guy. John Harball is a special teams guy, and

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01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,759
Speaker 1: so which direction they went in was gonna be interesting.

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01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 1: They go with a defensive oriented guy, Jesse Minner, So

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01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 1: there you go. He takes over for John Harball, who

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01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: obviously has since moved on to the New York Giants.

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01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: I thought, by the way, that Paul Daanner Junior on

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01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: this show on Tuesday was excellent, and he always is.

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Speaker 1: But I believe the Bengals are gonna be AFC North

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Speaker 1: favorites when the twenty twenty six season begins, like, I

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01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: don't know when those odds are gonna go up, but

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Speaker 1: I would be I would be willing to bet that

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Speaker 1: you can make this bet that Bengals to win AFC North,

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01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 1: that they're favored. It ain't gonna be Cleveland, it may

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Speaker 1: be Baltimore. Baltimore has a star at quarterback. Bengals have

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01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: a star at quarterback. I think odds makers are gonna

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01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: lean into continuity, just like the Bengals have. And maybe

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01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: they're not going to be overwhelming favorites, but I think

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01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 1: they're going to be favored, and I would make them

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01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:12,919
Speaker 1: favorites right. They're the continuity in the AFC North should

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01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: be an asset. We will see. And by the way,

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01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 1: Lamar played unevenly this season might not have been one

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01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: hundred percent. In fact, nobody thinks he was a hundred percent.

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01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Did miss he did miss games this year. But we

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01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:31,799
Speaker 1: were talking about the Bengals being considered perhaps AFC North favorites,

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01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: and Paul talked about how the Steelers job is not

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01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: a good job. I think, obviously it's remarkable that the

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01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers have had three head coaches since nineteen sixty nine.

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01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: The last two had like almost immediate success. Like Bill

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01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 1: Kauer took over for Chuck Noll in UH nineteen ninety

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01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: two and he was the NFL's Coach of the Year,

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01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: like had almost instant success. Mike Tomlin took over for

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01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 1: Bill Kauer and had almost instant success. His first year

1739
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: they go ten and six. The second year they win

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01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Bill Kwer was in a Super Bowl

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01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 1: his fourth season, and so yeah, man, huge longevity. Cower

1742
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: was the coach all the way through the two thousand

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01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 1: and six season, coached his last game in Cincinnati when

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01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: they beat the Bengals and eliminated the Bengals from the postseason. Obviously,

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01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin took takes over for Bill Cower and coaches forever.

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01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: I think people look at the fact that those two

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01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: coaches were there forever and go well, in Pittsburgh, you'll

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01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 1: have longevity. The Rooney family is extraordinarily patient. But I

1749
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,839
Speaker 1: think you get the longevity because you have instant success.

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01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 1: Javan Lewis had longevity because he had instant success. It's relative,

1751
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: but year three he went eleven and five. Year one

1752
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 1: he came this close to making the postseason and so

1753
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh you could say, well, yeah, there's longevity, but

1754
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: like Tomlin and Cower won almost immediately. Cower's first four seasons,

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01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: he wins eleven games, nine games, twelve games, eleven games,

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01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 1: then ten games, then eleven games. Is the new head

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01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:33,600
Speaker 1: coach in Pittsburgh gonna have that? Like that is a franchise,

1758
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: and I'll get accused of while you're using your Bengals

1759
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 1: fan bias. I think you can look at this objectively

1760
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: and say the same thing. That is a team that

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01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: feels like it's badly in need of a reboot, badly

1762
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 1: in need of hitting the reset button. Okay, hitting the

1763
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 1: reset button is not necessarily conducive to immediate success, which

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01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: makes that job perhaps not as good as it's made

1765
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: out to be. Like I think the Steelers are fascinating

1766
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: because they've been in purgatory for a while. They've cycled

1767
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: through different quarterbacks, the offense has looked the same, things

1768
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: did feel stale in recent years under Tomlin, as awesome

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01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: as a coach as he might have been. I don't

1770
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,680
Speaker 1: think it's a stretch to say, like, the Bengals won

1771
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 1: a playoff game before the Steelers do. Like I don't.

1772
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: And I can be as down on the Bengals as anybody,

1773
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 1: and then the Browns are a whole different story. But anyway,

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01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: Jesse Minner is the new head coach in Baltimore, and

1775
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Baltimore is fascinating because I think the reason why it

1776
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: felt like it was time to move on from hardball

1777
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 1: was the roster still looks really good, and the roster

1778
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 1: is still gonna look really good. But not only a

1779
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:49,799
Speaker 1: new head coach, a first time head coach. The Bengals

1780
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 1: got to get off to a fast start. You have

1781
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: to make those teams pay when they make changes and

1782
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 1: have to go through what are supposed to be the

1783
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: inevitable growing pains. You gotta take advance, You gotta play

1784
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: from ahead. You gotta get off to a fast art,

1785
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 1: which means you need instant impact free agents and instant

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01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: impact draft picks. I didn't tell you what one major

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01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 1: league team did that the Reds will benefit from, but

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01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 1: why you should still hate it? So I'll do it next.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Minner is going to be the new head coach

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Speaker 1: former wide receiver for Mount Saint Joe. Also, Dan Pitcher

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Speaker 1: is not going to be the offensive coordinator of the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers because Zach Robinson will be College basketball.

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01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,919
Speaker 1: A couple of games that have had their TIT times

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01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 1: adjusted NKU and Wright State on Saturday is now going

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Speaker 1: to begin at one o'clock on Saturday instead of seven pm.

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01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 1: That game is going to be at the Nutter Center,

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01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: and the UC Women's game at Fifth Third on Saturday

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01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: instead of starting at two o'clock. Bearcats will take on

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Speaker 1: Arizona State at noon. Columbus Bluejacket Skate against Dallas. Chad

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Speaker 1: Brendle on the Bearcats coming up. In just a few minutes,

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01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 1: we'll talk about last night's Cincinnati lost to Arizona. One

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Speaker 1: other big baseball story this impacts the National League Central.

1819
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: Freddy Parolza was traded by the Milwaukee Brewers to the

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Speaker 1: New York Mets in exchange for prospects. Now, Freddy Parolta

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Speaker 1: last year for a ninety seven win Milwaukee team was

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01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 1: an All Star, finished fifth in the National League. Say

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01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 1: Young Voting had a terrific season, but a big part

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01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: of that team. It's it's felt like Freddy Paralza has

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01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 1: pitched for the Brewers since the mid nineties, since they

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Speaker 1: were in the American League. So the National League Central

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01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: was made worse. Now. You might argue the biggest beneficiary

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01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: of this is going to be the Chicago Cubs, because

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01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 1: the Cubs finished in second last year and have had

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01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:55,719
Speaker 1: a pretty active offseason. But everybody in the division stands

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01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 1: to benefit. If you're a team like the Reds, the

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01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 1: team that you're chasing has made itself in the short

1833
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 1: term worse you win. Now. People who cover minor league

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01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 1: systems and know a lot about prospects seem to really

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01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: like the players the Brewers got back in exchange from

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01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: the Mets. But you know, we talked about this last week.

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01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 1: The Kyle Tucker thing felt like a huge tipping point

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01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: for a lot of baseball fans. Baseball is gonna have

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01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: a lockout at the end of the season. We'll see

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01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:26,719
Speaker 1: if it bleeds into next year. We'll see if games

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01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: get canceled. We'll see if the season gets canceled. Even

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01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,919
Speaker 1: as an anti salary cap guy, it is very easy

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01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that baseball has an issue with a lot

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01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: of fans, a lot of customers, a lot of possible

1845
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 1: customers who simply throw up their hands because they believe

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01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: their team has no chance to compete. And as long

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01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: as that is the case, you've got a problem. Got

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01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 1: to win those people back, and so some restructuring of

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01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 1: baseball's economics may be in order. I am more than

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01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: open to that possibility. But you know, a lot of

1851
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 1: fans blame the Dodgers, blame the Mets, blame the big

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01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 1: market teams. Yep, say what you want about the Dodgers,

1853
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: and I will absolutely admit, absolutely admit that it is

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01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 1: fatiguing seeing them just load it up. But number one,

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01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 1: they're playing within the rules. Number two, they're at least

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01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: trying to win. May not like it, but they are

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01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: at least trying to win. The Mets this offseason have

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01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:35,520
Speaker 1: tried to win. The Milwaukee Brewers knowingly and actively probably

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01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 1: made their team worse this year. Again on you may

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01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 1: you may look at those prospects and go, boy, those

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01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: are dudes who are going to help the Brewers for

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01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 1: years to come. Maybe that's the case, And yeah, there is.

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01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 1: There is some sense behind the idea that you trade

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01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 1: away a guy before he can leave in free agency,

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01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 1: and you get pretty much nothing for him, and so

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Speaker 1: you want to trade me, get out in front of

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01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: it and get something in return, except if you have

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01:46:58,160 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 1: a team that actually has a chance to win. And

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01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a bigger problem in the sport than

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01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 1: the big market teams trying to win. I think the

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01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 1: bigger issue is we've normalized not trying, like even the

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01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Reds this offseason. It's not like they haven't tried, because

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01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: they have made their bullpend better, but we've just sort

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01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 1: of accepted that the manager acknowledges our offense probably not

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01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: going to be all that good. I'm paraphrasing them here,

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01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 1: and we just NodD along. We've normalized baseball teams not

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01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: doing everything they can to win. We've normalized it here,

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01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 1: or at least we did for a while. I think

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01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: that's a bigger issue for the sport owners actively trying

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01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:43,799
Speaker 1: not to win, teams competitive teams, otherwise good teams making

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01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:48,799
Speaker 1: themselves worse. That's a bigger issue than teams actually trying.

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01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,839
Speaker 1: So yes, the Reds benefit awesome. I hope the Brewers

1883
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: totally dismantled their team. I'm not sure that that's good

1884
01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 1: for the sport, although when we'll talk about what's not

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01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: good for the sport, they'll focus on the teams that

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01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 1: are trying. I think it's a wrong way of doing it.

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01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 1: Uh UC was not perfect last night, but they needed

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01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 1: to be. Chad Brendle's always perfect, he joins us.

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Speaker 1: U SE gets trounced in the second half by Arizona

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Speaker 1: What was the overarching takeaway from last night?

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Speaker 2: Uh? That Arizona's roster at every position was significantly better

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01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:14,520
Speaker 2: than Cincinnatides. That was my takeaway.

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01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew that going in. Uh. Yeah, last night

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Speaker 1: was confirmation of it. I guess for me it was

1908
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Speaker 1: I don't know. We we can talk about how good

1909
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Arizona is. They were gonna have to play a perfect

1910
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: game last night offensively, and they did not, And they

1911
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 1: were gonna need somebody to step up and create offensively,

1912
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:34,639
Speaker 1: and that didn't happen either.

1913
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's look Iowa State like you can

1914
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 2: you can trace why the offense was successful against Iowa State.

1915
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 2: Iowa State likes to gamble. They like to put pressure

1916
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 2: on you. If you can beat that pressure, then you

1917
01:49:54,240 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 2: can score on Iowa State. Arizona basically just plays you

1918
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 2: straight up. They switch one through four. They'll play drop coverage.

1919
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 2: You know where their their center plays all when you

1920
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 2: put him in a pick and roll. They have great size.

1921
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 2: The smallest guy is six to three. Most of their

1922
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 2: team is six seven, six eight and up. And they

1923
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 2: just say we're gonna play sound, We're gonna stay in

1924
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 2: front of you, We're gonna make you make shots over

1925
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 2: the top. And uh, Cincinnati's not a great shooting team.

1926
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 2: They're not a great shooting team from three. They're not

1927
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 2: a great shooting team from two. They wasted thirteen to

1928
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:40,839
Speaker 2: fourteen from the line. Though, you get upset when that happens.

1929
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,599
Speaker 2: With as bad as this team is, the free throw

1930
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 2: shooting that they lose the ninety two game. But yeah,

1931
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, offensively they are not good. And

1932
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 2: it comes down to one simple thing though. In a

1933
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 2: matchup with high level teams in the Big Twelve, Cincinnati's

1934
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 2: had a significant disadvantage at guard and that was evident

1935
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 2: last night. They had an opportunity to be better than

1936
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 2: Arizona's guards, who didn't play all that well, and they

1937
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 2: were significantly worse.

1938
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I watched that game to the lens

1939
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 1: of this is this is the barometer, right, this is

1940
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 1: the standard against which all Big twelve teams are going

1941
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 1: to be measured. Nothing against Iowa State. It look maybe

1942
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 1: Arizona doesn't win the Big twelve, who knows, Maybe Arizona

1943
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 1: gets beaten early in the in the NCAA tournament. But

1944
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 1: I want to win the Big twelve one day, right,

1945
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,799
Speaker 1: I want to play in games where there's a single

1946
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 1: digit number next to Cincinnati. And for the for the

1947
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 1: progress the Bearcats have made over the last couple of weeks,

1948
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 1: and as well as they played against Iowa State, and

1949
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 1: as cool as it was for them to win that game,

1950
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 1: I looked at Arizona, I looked at Cincinnati, and the

1951
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 1: distance between the two feels like, it's, it's, it's, it's

1952
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: it's so expansive that I'm having a hard time even

1953
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 1: imagining the Bearcats looking like that anytime soon.

1954
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I would state was

1955
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 2: number two in the country and Cincinnati matched up. I

1956
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 2: think a lot of it is matchups, style of play styles,

1957
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 2: make fights. Arizona was a bad style for Cincinnati. But

1958
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:26,639
Speaker 2: ultimately you are from that prism looking at the number

1959
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 2: one team in the country, and it's certainly even you know,

1960
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 2: four days after beating the number two team in the country,

1961
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 2: it certainly felt like Arizona was quite a bit further

1962
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 2: along in the process than Cincinnati. I really like Tommy

1963
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 2: Lloyd as a coach. They run really good stuff on offense.

1964
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 2: They're very difficult to guard. I do want to make

1965
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 2: a correction to Wes Miller, Tony Pike, and a lot

1966
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 2: of people that I've heard yesterday and today about that game.

1967
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 2: Arizona's not a bad three point shooting team. Well said

1968
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 2: last night.

1969
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 11: In the game.

1970
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, they shoot.

1971
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 2: What would you give for Cincinnati to shoot thirty six

1972
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 2: and a half percent from three over a season?

1973
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were I think going into last

1974
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 1: night six in the Big Twelve and three point shooting.

1975
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: I think they were like forty fifth in the country.

1976
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 1: It's funny because I heard folks say that, I heard

1977
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 1: Tony say it, and I'm like, you know that, that

1978
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 1: doesn't mess with what I've seen. I've seen a team

1979
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: that doesn't shoot a lot, and I think they're on

1980
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 1: the lower end of you know, power four, power five

1981
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: teams three point shooting attempts. But they're not a bad

1982
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: outside shooting team.

1983
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 2: No. That one was like, uh, I think we're missing

1984
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 2: on the fact that they don't make a lot of

1985
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:50,759
Speaker 2: threes a game, as they're not a good shooting team wins.

1986
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 2: It's been a long time since Cincinnati's had a team

1987
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 2: shoots thirty six and a half percent from three collectively.

1988
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 2: If that's bad, man, we got a long way to

1989
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 2: go to be bad. They're constructed. They're well constructed as

1990
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 2: a team. They've got a couple of really good veteran guards,

1991
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 2: some awesome freshmen, they've got size, they're well coached. Like, yeah,

1992
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:22,719
Speaker 2: they're there. They're definitely the talk of the Big Twelve

1993
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 2: so far this year for a million reasons.

1994
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 1: Can the Bearcats be Arizona State?

1995
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 2: Boy? They better I don't know if you've monitored things

1996
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 2: from Bobby Hurley, who's not as endearing as his brother

1997
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 2: that is a friend of this show. Bobby's talking about

1998
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 2: I can't reach my team. They're not taking the coaching,

1999
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 2: they don't respond, they don't listen. I'm sure he's trying

2000
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 2: to use that to light a fire under them. They've

2001
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 2: got some And here's here's always the concern, Mo, even

2002
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 2: as you get to the bottom teams in this league,

2003
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 2: they've all got some guards that can put up buckets.

2004
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 2: And if Cincinnati's off that night, disaster always loss. The

2005
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 2: question is can they keep their confidence up even after

2006
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 2: how the last ten minutes played out in Tucson. So far,

2007
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 2: this has been a resilient team for the most part,

2008
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: but boy, they really got their butt kicked. So butts

2009
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 2: kicked over those last ten minutes. How do they bounce back?

2010
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 2: And I will and I know this is what this is.

2011
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 2: I say this with a grain of salt, MO, because

2012
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 2: mc cronin. Mccronin was very good at finding things and

2013
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 2: still is maybe the best at finding things to uh

2014
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 2: self motivate. Is that a good way to put it.

2015
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 2: Mick Hay did the second game of a long road trip,

2016
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 2: and they went out to Arizona on Tuesday. I mean,

2017
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 2: god knows when they're gonna get back. They're certainly not

2018
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 2: gonna be able to get back in town Saturday night

2019
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 2: after the game. I wouldn't think.

2020
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 3: So.

2021
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 2: It's a long trip. You just got your butt kicked.

2022
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 2: How do these guys handle today and tomorrow? Getting Redman

2023
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 2: all day on Saturday waiting for that game at ten

2024
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 2: o'clock Saturday night. You're playing a team that's not good,

2025
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 2: but you're playing a team that has some talent that

2026
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 2: is probably gonna win a couple games on their home floor.

2027
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 2: Can Wes Miller avoid something that has been a problem

2028
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 2: for Wes Miller, and that is going on the road

2029
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 2: against a wounded animal like Arizona State and losing. This

2030
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 2: is one they absolutely have to win if we're gonna

2031
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 2: keep any level of interest in this season beyond. Does

2032
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 2: Cincinnati make a coaching change?

2033
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 1: All right? So if they do that right, they get

2034
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 1: a chance to come home and play three of the

2035
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:13,680
Speaker 1: next four at fifth third. Baylor's not very good, they

2036
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 1: do have to go to Houston. That's gonna be a

2037
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 1: problem come home for West Virginia, a team they should

2038
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 1: have beaten the first time. Come home for UCF, a

2039
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 1: team they should have beaten the first time. At Kansas State,

2040
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 1: the Wildcats are not very good. Uh play Utah here

2041
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 1: the utes are putrid. Like okay, some of those are

2042
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty games, are probably not gonna win them all.

2043
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 1: But I look at it like this, if you could

2044
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 1: a get a Tempe and beat Arizona State, which you should,

2045
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 1: the schedule does open up a little bit, and they

2046
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 1: do have a chance. I am not gonna say they're

2047
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 1: gonna make the NCAA tournament, but if you're hoping to

2048
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 1: watch them win some games and change the conversation in

2049
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 1: season a little bit, the schedule does present those opportunities.

2050
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 1: And the team that I've watched play three of the

2051
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 1: three in a cour of the last four games can

2052
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 1: can reel off some wins.

2053
01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 2: They can. I mean, that's the right back to that

2054
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 2: same thing we talked about. No can Wes Miller put

2055
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 2: this team in a position to win some of these

2056
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 2: A games you should win and be coin flip games,

2057
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 2: because if you look at the last two years since

2058
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 2: they've joined the Big twelve mo if they would just

2059
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 2: have won a couple more of those type games, we

2060
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't be talking about Wes Miller on the hot seat.

2061
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 2: We'd be talking about can Cincinnati make their third tournament

2062
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 2: in a row, or their third tournament in a row,

2063
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 2: or their second out of three since joining the Big twelve,

2064
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 2: because two years ago that was they lost a bunch

2065
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 2: of close games, the Oklahoma State game, the West Virginia game,

2066
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 2: like there were games that could have got them to

2067
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 2: nine and nine, ten and eight, that would have gotten

2068
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 2: them in the tournament. That look a lot like this

2069
01:58:56,920 --> 01:59:01,480
Speaker 2: stretch of five games that's coming up. So I had

2070
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 2: ahead four, one, three and two.

2071
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they again, taking how they've played, including how

2072
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 1: they played for a stretch last night that combined with

2073
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 1: how the schedule does even ease up, they they do

2074
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 1: have an opportunity. We'll see if they take advantage. That's

2075
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:26,040
Speaker 1: a big, big if. Thank you as always that there is.

2076
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 2: A chance for momentum. No, that's all you can ask

2077
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 2: for a chance. Thank you as well. And uh, I

2078
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 2: hope you've stocked up on cigars and bourbon.

2079
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 1: I do that no matter what the weather is. But

2080
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 1: yes I am. I am well stocked for the weekend

2081
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 1: and the looming Apocalypse. That's our guy, Chad Brendle, Bearcat

2082
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 1: Journal dot Com. Show is over, Gotta go. We return

2083
01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: tomorrow at three oh five to preview the Snow. Don't

2084
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 1: forget Tony Pike since he three sixty is at noon.

2085
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you at three oh five. Have a

2086
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 1: great afternoon, have a great evening, have a great life.

2087
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 1: Thanks to Terrem black and for producing. Thanks to you

2088
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:05,840
Speaker 1: for listening. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports station.