1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Find Rockies Baseball opening day for the Rockies. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Of course, the home opener is going to be next Friday. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: We actually have a pair of tickets to the home 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: opener giveaway in just abountter of moments, so be listening 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: for that. 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: We'll be given that away. Reminder. We also the Sweet 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: sixteen rolling along. Last night. 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: Arizona dominated Arkansas one nine eighty eight. Purdue getting a 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: late bucket against Texas passed them seventy nine seventy seven. 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Illinois pretty much controlled that game against Houston. Houston just 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: couldn't shoot sixty five to fifty five, Nebraska falling to 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Iowa lates seventy seven seventy one. Tonight we got Duke 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: and Saint John's at five ten Michigan Alabama. That should 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: be a really good one of five thirty five Yukon 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: Michigan State and another really good game and then Iowa 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: State Tennessee Kawae. Tournament updates are presented by Xfinity and 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Dave Smith Motors, low prices that are hard to beat 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: in Ramjeep, GMC, and Chevrolet. 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: How about the Big Ten? How about the Big obviously 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: the best basketball conference out there out of the teams 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: in the Sweet sixteen, they had about five of them. 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: I'll say one. Yeah, no, they've the Big ten has 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: really showed out other than Wisconsin letting me down. And 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: you know, I thought ruined my bracket, but I guess 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm like second in my league right now. Nice. So 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: I'm doing something and this is the best I've ever 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: been in this late. I don't think I've ever actually 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: won March Madness bracket before, have you? I? 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: Well, again, for me, I'm only playing against my dad. Usually, Oh. 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: You guys don't do one here? 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: Well, we we do one here. 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: I was on vacation last week, so I didn't get 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: a chance to enter in the one here. Do you 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: play in a giant March Badness bracket? 35 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: They've yeah, yeah, I did not this year. Okay, oh 36 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: I did. 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: Not because I feel like that's the one thing even 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: if I don't necessarily watch basketball, you know, college basketball, 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: how I how I could? It's just fun to do 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: a bracket every year. It is, you know, with your friends. 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: And I have a couple of friends that do a 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: couple of brackets and it's cool, like it's something it 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: brings people together as you talk about college sports, and 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: you know it just it makes it feel like you're 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: right next door again talking trash about how did you 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: pick them your brackets trash or oh wow, you're almost perfect, 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? It could go either way. 48 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: That's that's a good time of year for that for trash. 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: I love it. 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Even if you haven't watched the minutes of college basketball 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: year he gets talked track right now? Yeah, all right, 52 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: So before we get to the bottom of the ur again, 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: Rockies Baseball, the segments you did with Benny Fouler on 54 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: DMVR this week, Dave got quite a bit of run 55 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: because a lot of Broncos fans were discussing a point 56 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: and I liked your response, but I wanted to get 57 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: your response here on this show because this is what 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Benny said when it came to Marvin Mims and his 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: approach to this upcoming season. 60 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 5: To me, if I'm Marvin, okay, I know I'm not 61 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: getting extended here. You're not going to have a twenty 62 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 5: seven million dollar receiver or a thirty million dollar receiver 63 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 5: and extend me. 64 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: So well, wait, who are you talking about? 65 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: You got Courtland thirty million a year, right or twenty seven? 66 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 5: And Jalen Wattle is in five, twenty four to twenty five, 67 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 5: so you know you're not getting extended, you know. I 68 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 5: think you know this now after this year or going 69 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 5: into training camp, which he would probably want based off 70 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 5: of having two first team All Pro seasons as a returner. 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 5: Every time I've gotten thrown the ball in high pressure 72 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 5: situations Bengals game against Buffalo, against the Patriots in the 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 5: AFC Championship, I've been that guy. 74 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: Yea. 75 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 5: I now feel like I am a trade candidate to 76 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: get some picks back for Watta. 77 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: So what was my response? 78 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Your Your response was relatively measured. I mean you just 79 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: sort of talked about the room and really where he's 80 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: You didn't talk about him specifically as a trade candidates. 81 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: I think you talked about it more matter of factively. 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: Of like, no, I think your response was whatever disconnect. 83 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure why there's going to disconnect with the 84 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: way the coaches have used him. 85 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: And I believe that to be true, and I've said 86 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: that on the show as well. I think that if 87 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: you go back, I completely understand Marvin's perspective, and I 88 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: believe I said on that show. If I'm Marvin, I'm 89 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 4: probably gonna say the same thing like when he was 90 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 4: asked about the trade, he said something to the effect, 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 4: I don't understand pretty much why we made the deal. 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: Right, said I was surprised. 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: I was surprised, and players usually are surprised when somebody 94 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: that plays the same position they play is brought in. 95 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: But when you look at Mime's production, I've said it 96 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: on this show, said it on the podcast on DMVR 97 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: with Benny, there has to be something from the coach's standpoint, 98 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: whether they would ever admit it publicly or not, this 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 4: is just how I view it, where that there's a 100 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 4: disconnect of some sort with respect to whether Mark, whether 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: it's Marvin's ability to run routes, or whether it's in practice, 102 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: or whether it's processing or whatever. It is no shade 103 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: of Marvin, but I'm just telling you how the league 104 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: works for them not to try to get him the ball. 105 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: More Over, the last couple of years tells me that 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 4: there's something that is a disconnect. I don't know what 107 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: it is. So if you're Marvin, sure, I mean you 108 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: probably are not are not happy. I don't know if 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 4: Marvin will go in and ask to be traded. 110 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 111 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if the Broncos would would honor the 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 4: request anyway. But he's the closest receiver to getting a 113 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 4: rework to redone deal. 114 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: Right, He's got a year. 115 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 4: He's got a year on Franklin, so I don't have 116 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 4: to worry about Troy next year. But Marvin, they're gonna 117 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: have to make a decision in the last year of 118 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: his deal, like, Okay, what are we doing. We don't 119 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: want to let this guy walk for nothing. You're probably 120 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: not gonna franchise him after this year because of because 121 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 4: of the salary. So it's an interesting thing to watch. 122 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta believe if you're Marvin Ms as somebody 123 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: that has been in that situation but a little bit different. 124 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: I had just was about to go into free agency 125 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: and they tried. They traded for Jerrell Casey and then 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: I signed back right after uh, And the idea was like, Okay, well, 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: I have to go out there and show them what 128 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: they're missing and what they really didn't value at the time. 129 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: And it's never a dig at a person that they 130 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 3: traded for. You. They can't control it. You can't control it, 131 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: you know. It's not like I'm mad at Jalen Watt 132 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: Jayden Wnel didn't do anything. You know, when Jerrell got 133 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 3: traded your Dree Casey didn't do anything. The Titans wanted 134 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: to trade him in the Broncos. So you know, the 135 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: tough part though, is it's you got to find a 136 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: way to stay positive and you got to find a 137 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: way to like have this motivate you because now you know, 138 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: the idea of getting a big deal is kind of 139 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: out the window. So now it's like, all right, let 140 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: me go work so that the next team because just 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: like Bennie said, it's going to be really hard for 142 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: the Broncos if you know, in the big picture of things, 143 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: to really try to bring Marvin Mims back, because unless, 144 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: of course, they were to try to move on from Courtland, 145 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: but then you have Jalen Mems and then I guess 146 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: you would say Pat Bryan in the Cortland's position. So 147 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: that that is one way could work out. They could 148 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: try to get which I don't think is a good idea, 149 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: but that's one way this this thing could actually work out. 150 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: But if I'm Marvel Thems, I'm going now I'm motivated, 151 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: all right, cool, y'all doubted me. That's all Some players 152 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: need to take it to the next level, and hopefully 153 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: that's what Marvin needs to become the receip We already 154 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: know what he is as a returner, but to become 155 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: the receiver that everyone expects him to become and what 156 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: he expects of himself. 157 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: But the problem is is those opportunities have to be 158 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: there for him too. 159 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: Well, okay, fine, I'm. 160 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: Just saying, but on paper, he just looked at this 161 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: deal and says, okay, now, how am I getting on 162 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: the field contract year or otherwise, like whether he wants 163 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: to stay here or he wants to put up a 164 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: good year so that other teams of the thirty one 165 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: teams see him and say, oh, this is the guy 166 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: we should invest in. 167 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Where are those opportunities coming from? 168 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: That's that's the question Marv's probably asking, and especially if 169 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: he's already got to disconnect with the coaching staff. 170 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think, honestly, I think Jalen Waddell might have 171 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 4: similar questions. Now he hadn't been here, but now he's here. 172 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: What do you have in store for me? What do 173 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 4: you have in mind? Good question Bronco's coaching staff in 174 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: terms of how are you going to utilize me? I 175 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: mean Normally those questions are asked. If you're a free 176 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: agent and you're thinking about this case signing with the Broncos, 177 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: you would have those in depth discussions like, Okay, tell 178 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: me what this would look like next year if I 179 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 4: come here. But as a as a trade, it's it's 180 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 4: that doesn't happen now, it'll happen after the trade. But 181 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: he's already a Bronco. So I think it's And again 182 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: we've talked about this as well with Davis Webb. Now 183 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: the we think the play caller, what's the offense look like? 184 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: Does it look different than what we've seen the last 185 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 4: couple of years, and how you're gonna I mean, you 186 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: didn't trade what you traded for Jalen Waddle to have 187 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: him come here and catch thirty nine passes. 188 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: Nope, you just didn't. 189 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 4: So I think there are a lot of things in 190 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: play here, a lot of interesting moves that will be 191 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: made in the offseason with respect to the Broncos offense. 192 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: Can't wait to see what it looks like. Well, Dave, 193 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: look at it like this. You're a high school coach, 194 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: so you're offensive coach. You know how this works. Speed 195 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: will always find a way on the field, you will 196 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: always find a place on the field for speed except Ims. Well, 197 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: and that's the thing. So now with Marvin Mims, I 198 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: expect him to kind of be moved all over. He 199 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: might line up in a bad field, he might, you know, 200 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: he's going to be a guy he's going to play 201 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: and won't be as much as he wants to. But 202 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: they're going to find a place for him because the 203 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 3: more speed the better and we all we all know that, 204 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: and so going into this, yeah, it's it's going to 205 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: be crowded. But I believe though, if you have like 206 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: you think, Andy Reid could find a place for him. 207 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: So there should be a place in Sean Payton and 208 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: they should definitely be able to find a place for 209 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: him to play, like no question, because a guy that 210 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: runs four to three is hard to find. And as 211 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: much as we in this day and age try to 212 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: make it seem like hi, everybody runs four to three, now, 213 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: bad stuff is hard, extremely hard. Even like so when 214 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 3: you have guys like that, and Marvin Mims was shown 215 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: he can give you the big play. I saw it 216 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 3: firsthand well that that what ninety eight yard touchdown against 217 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: the against the Browns ninety three so you saw that. 218 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: I didn't want to make feel any worse than you already. 219 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: I said, no, no, remember ninety three. I should have 220 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: should have remembered it. But like when you you've seen it, 221 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: we've all seen the production when the ball actually comes 222 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: his way, So why stop just it's going to change 223 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 3: and it's going to look different. But I think you're 224 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: still going to see a good amount of Marvin Mims 225 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: because the offensive play callers are going to find ways 226 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: to distribute the ball. 227 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: You guys realize that Marvin Mims, and I know he 228 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: missed a couple of games, he had less than half 229 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: the amount of targets as Troy Franklin last year. Like 230 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: if I told you going into the twenty twenty five season, 231 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: you got Troy Franklin who were hoping, we have Troy 232 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: Franklin who were hoping is going to take a step forward. Certainly, 233 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: Marvin Mims, we know has speed and has talent, but 234 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna have less than half one hundred and four 235 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: to I want to tell you targets. 236 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: Well, it tells me at least as of last. 237 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: Year, Troy Franklin has thought of higher within the coaching 238 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: staff as an offensive wide receiver versus Marvin Mims. 239 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: Why do you think that is? Well, Okay, I don't 240 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: know this, but if you. 241 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: Were just telling me the situations, I'd say, well, Marvin 242 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Mimms is an All Pro returner and I don't want 243 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: to risk. 244 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 3: That. 245 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: I think part of that has played a factor. I 246 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: think part of that has. But for an offense that 247 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 4: was was looking to sort of make some splash plays 248 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 4: a lot last year. For Marvin Mims, to show you 249 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: the ability he had in the return game, punt return game, 250 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: I just found it curious that he that he somehow 251 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 4: Someway didn't find his way into He did a little 252 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 4: bit and certainly late in the season, right, but you 253 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: still I mean he ran the slot fade for the 254 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 4: touchdown against the Bills, laid in that game, and a 255 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 4: nice catch there, but you still, when you think about it, 256 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 4: he was not the downfield threat that I thought he 257 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: would be last year, hardly at all. 258 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: Troy was, Franklin was. 259 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: So I don't know it gets back then, and we'll 260 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: probably never know because they probably will never disclose publicly, 261 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 4: and if I were there, maybe I wouldn't either. 262 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: We'll probably never know, but I would think. 263 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: This deal with waddle signals what we have wondered all 264 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: along with respect to the offense and Mims, there is 265 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 4: a disconnect about something. 266 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: Can it, can it be repaired or can it? Can 267 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: it get better? Sure? 268 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: I think is it his route running, because I've I've 269 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: seen receivers that had everything, had great speed, but they 270 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: just they weren't great route runners. I don't know if 271 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: that applies to Marvin or not, but I can understand 272 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 4: him being upset about it. 273 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: Well, and by the way, to your point, So in season, 274 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: he averaged eight point seven yards per catch. 275 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: He had twelve point nine. 276 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: In the postseason, he led the delete led the team 277 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: with twelve catches on fourteen targets for one hundred and 278 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: fifty five yards in touchdown. 279 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: He was their best receiver in the postseason. 280 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: So, yeah, if you're Marvin Mimsy and you finish the season, 281 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: even though it's this pointing to lose in the AFC 282 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: Championship game, you're probably thinking, all right, here we go. 283 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: Let's you know, well, when you. 284 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: Think about it, really, I mean, when Troy Franklin came 285 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: in last year, he sort of surpassed Marvin, and Marvin's 286 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: been here a year longer, and Marvin was a higher 287 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: draft choice. That's right, Marvin was the second round runner 288 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: draft choice. So it's it's curious, without a doubt, no. 289 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: Doubt about it. 290 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: All right, Actually, you know, maybe this is a conversation 291 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: for next week. I do want to ask you, like, 292 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: if they are thinking about trading, maybe very quickly, who 293 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: has more value you think league wide? 294 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: Troy Franklin or Marvin Mems. 295 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: Marvin Memmes by far by fire. 296 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: But you have to pay him. But he's doing a 297 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: new contract. 298 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: But what he years two years though, and you don't 299 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: get the return your returner expertise that you give a 300 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: Marvin Memes, Okay, And and that's the only reason, because 301 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: Marvin Mims can score for you multiple different ways, and 302 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: that is worth it for a team that is on 303 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: the cuss. 304 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: So even though he's doing new contract and whatever trade 305 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: you'd have to execute, that means you'd have to pay him. 306 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: That's he's worth He's worth more. Here's a deal you 307 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: gotta pay him as a returner or receiver. 308 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: That's a great question because he's obviously if. 309 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: You franchise teem just is he franchised as a receiver? 310 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: I think you do more transition tag. If the Broncos 311 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: were going to do something like that, no, I understand 312 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: what they would do. 313 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: I'm asking you, if you franchised him, what. 314 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: Would he be? 315 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: He'd be a receiver, but you don't want to you 316 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: absolutely won't. Yeah, and I would submit that there would 317 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 4: not be I don't know, so to franchise him, he's 318 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: going to be up over twenty million dollars, that's right 319 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: at all, due respect, no shade of Marvin, who I 320 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: really like. I'm not sure how many teams would right 321 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: now say we'll take Marvin Mims and we'll sign him 322 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: to a three year deal and his average salary will 323 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: be twenty three million dollars. 324 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: Not happening. 325 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: I don't see that happening neither. 326 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: No, but I can see a team being like, huh, 327 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: we'll take a flyer or we give him a two 328 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: for eight, you know, a two year eight per year 329 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: as a guy. 330 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: Who will get that here? I hope so. I would 331 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: hope so. 332 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: But with the money that they've really money into draft 333 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: picks that they've put towards receivers, it'd be tough for 334 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: me to believe that they would. 335 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: The key thing, and you said it is what's going 336 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: to happen to Courtland. 337 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah after this year. 338 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big one. That's a big decision.