1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Penguin's needing points badly as they are in the thick 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: of just a really tightly compacted playoff race. Not only 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: got two points in Philadelphia last night, but they kicked 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: some Flyer ass in the process. And here's some takeaways 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: that I have from the game last night. Sids nak 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: for killing the Flyers, especially in Philadelphia, is just incredible 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: to see. I mean, since year one when they knocked 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: his teeth out, he has just owned that city. As 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: Marcus said frequently, he is one of us truly gets 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: off a little bit, I think, to shoving it up 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: the Flyers backside. 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 2: And he did it once again last night. 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Scoring two goals is fifty eighth and his fifty ninth 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: of his career against Philadelphia. He's got the most goals 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: against Philadelphia than any individual player. He's got more points 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: than any individual player against Philadelphia. He is truly the 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Flyer's daddy. And it never gets old, does it. It 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: never gets old? And I Philadelphia, I gotta be honest 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: with you, I don't think it's ending anytime soon. I mean, 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be dropping down on that 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: one need scoring goals on until he's forty four to 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: forty five years old. Tristan Jari. He's making a real 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: strong push to be the starting goaltender. Not you know, 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: full time like he's Schusterkin Vasilevsky type of starting goaltender, 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: but definitely a one A emphasis on the A. She 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Lovs have also been struck, has also been struggling lately. 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 1: I give Jari the net the rest of the week. 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: I put him back out there Thursday against Tampa Bay. 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: I put him in there Sunday against Dallas as long 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: as it doesn't go catastrophically wrong Thursday in Tampa. But 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: you got some nice cushion there between games, a couple 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: days off in between him. It's not like you're gonna 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: overwork him. You got two Cup contender opponents. Tampa Bay's 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: the hottest team in the NHL right now, seven straight wins. 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: They played a night in New York against the Islanders. 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Dallas second most points in the NHL with thirty eight, 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: behind just Colorado, who's crazy. Only lost one regulation game 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: so far this year. But you got, you know, a 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: step up greatly in competition. Here a number one team 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: in the East and Tampa number two team in the West. 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: In Dallas see how Jarry responds. And you can also 42 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: let she Lovs get a nice little reset because even 43 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: if you start leaning more towards Jari getting the net 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: and you start, you know, getting away from that rotation, 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: that strict rotation, you're gonna need. She loves and She 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Loves has been very good this year. Two bad starts, 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't think undoes all the good he's done earlier 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: this season. I love a good kid line. They played 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: with energy, as you'd expect. They didn't score, but that's 50 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: definitely gonna come. Kindall is such a force already, so 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: impressive to see an eighteen year old kid just take 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: the league, take being a professional athlete. In stride, Mark 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: joined us earlier in the show noted that Kendall's parents 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: were professional athletes. That's got to help in this when 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: it comes to, you know, not being overwhelmed by anything. 56 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: He is so far ahead of schedule than any eighteen 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: year old, and it's a lot of the reason why 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: the Penguins look like they're ahead of schedule right now 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to their rebuild. 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: A lot of that is credit due to Ben Kendall. 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: A Rutger McGroarty looked like he wants to be a 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Penguin for good now and I think he will be 63 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: completely belonged in the NHL Coividen was flying but he's 64 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: got a score. I mean, there's no excuses there. But 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: I think he will playing with Kendall and McGroarty. I 66 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: hope that kid line continues to be a thing moving forward. 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Eric Carlson is playing his best hockey as a Penguin now. 68 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Maybe that motivation is coming from him wanting to be 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: on Sweden at the Olympics. In fact, I'm almost positive 70 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: that a lot of the motivation is coming from him 71 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: wanting to be on Sweden at the Olympics. But I 72 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: don't care because the Penguins are reaping all of the 73 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: benefits for that. Sure, he's ticked off that he wasn't 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: preliminary named, preliminarily named to the Olympic team for Sweden, 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: but that's good because it ticked off. Eric Carlson is 76 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: playing his best hockey as a Penguin. This is the 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: Eric Carlson that Kyle Dubis thought he was getting when 78 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: he traded for him a few years back to assist 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: last night, finally starting to see the guy who won 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: all those Norris trophies and it's been huge for the Penguins. 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: When these forwards come back, Justin Brezo and Ricard Raquel, 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: when the team gets healthy, look out for them. 83 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: They will have depth. 84 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: They will have an elite number one line with Raquel, 85 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: Crosby and Rust And if goal tending can hold up, 86 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: it sure looks like a playoff team. And then you 87 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: look around the East and there really isn't that many 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: teams that are impressing you. Sure the Lightning are hot, 89 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: but we'll get a nice little litmus test of where 90 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: the Penguins stack up against the Lightning coming up on Thursday. 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I'd also keep Boco Imama up as that last player 92 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: on the fourth line. Borky said yesterday on the show 93 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: that the team puffs the chest out. 94 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: A little bit more when he's in the lineup. 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: Mark said earlier today, it doesn't matter who the wings 96 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: are on the fourth line. If that wing brings you 97 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: just that little extra edge to put the team over 98 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: the top, does that one thing good, then he deserves 99 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: to get a spot in the lineup every night. Eric 100 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: Christensen's a great example. Mark often brings up. All he 101 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: could do was shootouts. He was great in shootouts. You 102 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: put him on the fourth line, he wins you four 103 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: or five shootouts throughout the season. Those are valuable points. 104 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: So I'd keep Boco in the lineup. I'd keep him 105 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: on that fourth line. Pen's play with that edge. Penn's 106 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: play with a little bit more freedom, I think when 107 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: he is there, and he's not terrible, you know. 108 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: What I mean. 109 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: He's not just like you know, some guy out there 110 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: that looks like Doug Glatt can barely skate and all 111 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: he does is punch people in the face. No, Boco's 112 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: got some skill. He can play hockey as well as 113 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: being a nice physical presence on the ice. After going 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: three for four yesterday, the Penguin's power play is back 115 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: to the top of the league at thirty three point 116 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: three percent. But perhaps even more impressive in the game 117 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: yesterday and maybe even on the season, is the Penguins' 118 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: penalty kill. They killed off six of seven Flyers power 119 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: plays yesterday and they have the fourth best PK in 120 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: the NHL. You can't solely rely on special teams, but 121 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: that's a formula that's gonna lead to you making the playoffs. 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: If you're top five in both power play and penalty kill. Again, 123 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: you can't solely rely on it, but you can rely 124 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: on it to win you quite a few games, just 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: like they did last night. And speaking of making the playoffs, 126 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: I think they are going to do it. This was 127 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: a big past week for the Penguins leading into and 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: coming out of Thanksgiving, and they got six out of 129 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: eight points. 130 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: That's a job well done. 131 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: And they didn't even play that great in most of 132 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: the games, like they took the first two periods off 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: in Columbus, came storming back one in overtime. But for them, 134 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 1: you know they're going to be right on the edge 135 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: going into the last week of the season. It's going 136 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: to be either slightly in or slightly out of the 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: playoff pickch playoff picture. 138 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: But what's giving you hope. 139 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: That maybe after eighty two is all said and done, 140 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: eighty two games, they'll be on the right side of 141 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: the cut line is the fact that, hey, they had 142 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: a big week in front of them here. That in 143 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: or out of the playoffs by Thanksgiving thing is a 144 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: real thing. It's like seventy four whatever percent of the time, 145 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: if you're in at Thanksgiving, you're in. Well, they were 146 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: out going into that game, against the Sabers on Wednesday, 147 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: and like I said, they've picked up six of eight 148 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: points since then, so I think they'll make the playoffs. 149 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: I think they'll end on the right side of that 150 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: cut line. And if they do not, then this season 151 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: will be just a bigger disaster than you could ever 152 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: really describe. Nothing could go worse than this team finishing 153 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: in ninth place, finishing directly into that mushy middle. 154 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 2: I'm already kind of rolling out. 155 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: Them collapsing and getting into the lottery with some favorable 156 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: odds to get a top five pick. So you better 157 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and they're on a good path right 158 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: now to do so, and beating the Flyers last night 159 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: was a big, big deal. They are direct competition when 160 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: it comes to wild card, when it comes to top 161 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: three in the metro. When I come back, I got 162 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: a college football take that I want to get off 163 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: my chest to Mark's not here so I can finally 164 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: let it ride. 165 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: I'm Tom Offraman an Infomark. 166 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: It's one of five ninety x Tom Offerman an Infra 167 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: mark Man Today, Mark does not like college football. I 168 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: love college football, but boy, they make it so hard 169 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: to love it lately, doesn't it that sport. It really 170 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: is just so gross, and the way they try to 171 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: figure out this playoff, I think is just so misguided. 172 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: We'll get into that in just a second. 173 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: It is also three p fifteen though, that means it's 174 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: time for calls on the fifteen. 175 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,479 Speaker 2: James in Sarasota. What's up, James? 176 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: How are you doing? Good to be on. 177 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: It's good to have you on, James. What I want 178 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: to trust? 179 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: I want to discuss and I think this is a 180 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: very big point and it's just coming to notice lately 181 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: in the Steeler nation people were starting to see this 182 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 4: tight end situation. 183 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,119 Speaker 3: I'm not sure where Arthur. 184 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 4: Smith has this, this fantasy that John hu Smith is adequate. 185 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: It's the tight end position number one. He can't block, 186 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: he gets the most plays. He obviously it came to 187 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 4: light he's not coming to the meetings. So he missed. 188 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: He missed the touchdown path because at twenty three fifteen, 189 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: we have a real game on our hands, maybe a 190 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: little bit a shot of adrenaline for the Steelers. And 191 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 4: Aaron called him out on not going to the I 192 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: know Arthur Smith and this guy have a past in 193 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 4: Atlanta or somewhere but Pat fire Moose is their big 194 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: tight end, probably the best hands on the team. Why 195 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: is John hu Smith getting more reps in more game 196 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: time than Pat fired Moose and Washington. I'm gonna listen 197 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: to you. 198 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for you, James, but I agree 199 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: with you, especially when it comes to the Firemouth part 200 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: of things. I think it's clear that he is the 201 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: best tight end that the Steelers have, and he only 202 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: ran nine routes in the passing game against the Bills. 203 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: That's just inexcusable. 204 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: You paid this guy so much money too, so you 205 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: obviously like him, You obviously see something and him you 206 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: give him a second contract. Pat Firemouth's usage, to me, 207 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: is one of the more egregious things that's happening on 208 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: this offense. And you're right, John neu Smith gets a 209 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: lot of snaps. But I also think they're just so 210 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: enamored with this Darnel Washington thing. 211 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: And I think it's a good thing. 212 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I think he is a nicer 213 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: wrinkle to this offense. But he's never James gonna be 214 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: the type of tight end that goes like eight catches 215 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty yards in a touchdown. 216 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: Pat Farremouth is that type of. 217 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 4: Doun no, And I am a painy bit of a 218 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: Tomlin Apologif I know everyone wants his head on the wall, 219 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: I seem to give him a little bit of empathy. 220 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: And I look at the. 221 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: Player's gotta play, the player gotta play and the fact 222 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: that the one real big problem that I have with 223 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: the coaching is the tight end situation. I think that 224 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: that is like at least lost them a couple games 225 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 4: this year. I mean, Pat Farmus, it could be one 226 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: of the best tight ends in the league if they 227 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: use them. 228 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: He's got great hands. 229 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: Did you see him catch against Cincinnati? 230 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't go that far, James. 231 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if he would be one of the 232 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: best tight ends in the league, but he's definitely better 233 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: than what they're getting out of him, and I think 234 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: he can provide a lot more to this offense if 235 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: he was used correctly. College Football Playoff this is a 236 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: huge week when it comes to shaping the bracket. I 237 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: think the penultimate bracket comes out tonight. Got the college 238 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: conference championship games this weekend, and then you'll get your 239 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: College Football Playoff bracket and the big debate this. 240 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: Year is Miami Notre Dame. 241 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Miami fans are so mad at Notre Dame being in 242 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: over them, despite Miami beating Notre Dame, them both being 243 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: ten and two and them both having similar resumes. And 244 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: I think Miami te me has misplaced their anger here 245 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: their political campaign, and don't get it twisted. That's all 246 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: this has become now is a sports politic thing where 247 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: we set the college football playoff based on who can 248 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: go out and stump harder for their team or for 249 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: their conference. But Miami's campaign, they've picked the wrong target. 250 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: You will never convince a room of suits that Notre 251 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: Dame at ten and two, whose only losses are to 252 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: two ranked teams, two teams one in the playoff in 253 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: A and M, and another playoff contender in Miami. You 254 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: will never convince them that that team is not going 255 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: to be in the playoff ever ever. And you probably 256 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: won't be able to convince them of what I'm about 257 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: to say either, but I certainly try. Ole miss or 258 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: Oklahoma should be the two teams that you look at 259 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: on the outside looking in all mis lost their coach, 260 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: and you know, whether it's fair or not, they should 261 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: be out of the playoff. In my opinion, I don't 262 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: want to see this bummy defensive coordinator coach ole Miss 263 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: in a playoff game. 264 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: Their defense stinks. 265 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: The draw for ole Miss was the offense and Lane Kiffin. Now, 266 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Lane's a scumbag for leaving like this, and I do 267 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: feel for the players, but I'm sorry, life's not fair. 268 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: Get him out of the playoff. I don't want to 269 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: see ole Miss in there. There was precedent when Florida 270 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: State lost Jordan Travis a couple of years ago. Yeah, 271 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: I get it, it's a different thing. He's the quarterback. 272 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: He got injured. But the committee said it was then 273 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: a four team playoff that we left Florida State out 274 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: because of the variables changing with their quarterback getting hurt. Well, 275 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: pretty big variable changed when it came to Old Miss. 276 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: Head coach is gone. 277 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: Their entire identity is based on him and his offense. 278 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Get him out of the playoff, Miami and over Old 279 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: Miss and then I don't think there's a bigger fraud 280 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: in these playoffs than Oklahoma. They're gonna get in. I 281 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: think Ole Miss you have more of an argument against 282 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: because of the coach thing. But I will be betting 283 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: big against them round one, as long as they don't 284 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: draw like two Lane or Duke. But like if it's 285 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: Oklahoma Notre Dame, like the brackets have been shaping up, 286 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: no name's gonna blast them. 287 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: Oklahoma stinks And. 288 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: What a joke is the What a joke the ACC 289 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: is by the way, I mean, they just embarrass itself 290 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: at every turn. Jim Phillips commissioner, He's incompetent. He doesn't 291 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: play the politics at all. He should be out every 292 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: single show saying that Miami would boat race Ole Miss 293 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: and Oklahoma if they played. If Well Miss and Oklahoma 294 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: combined teams, Miami would win by three touchdowns. That's what 295 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: he should be doing. Instead, he's watching Duke in Virginia 296 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: potentially nuke the entire conferences participation when it comes to 297 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: the college football playoff altogether. 298 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: That's just great work, Jim. The ACC is in good hands. 299 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: Honestly, you can convince me that Jim Phillips is a 300 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: double agent for the SEC, getting paid to sabotage the 301 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: ACC just to get eight to nine. Screw it, the 302 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: full twelve team playoff field as SEC teams. All right, 303 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: we come back, We'll get back into hockey talk. Pierre 304 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: McGuire gonna join us for the best hockey talk you 305 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: will here in town all week when he joins the 306 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: Mark Madden Show. That's next on one O five ninety X. 307 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Tom up from an in for Mark Man today. Always 308 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: love filling in from Mark on Tuesdays because that means 309 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: I get to talk hockey with our next guest, Pierre McGuire. 310 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: He's brought to us by Always Safe Flagging and Traffic Control. 311 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: Pierre. Always great to talk to you. 312 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: Big win for the Penguins last night against a really 313 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: good Philadelphia team that they're fighting for a wildcard spot with, 314 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: and Sidney Crosby led the way as he so often 315 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: does against Philly. 316 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: Tom, it was so much fun to watch that game. 317 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: Number one because of what you just said with Sidney 318 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: Crosby with two goals are really like Brian Rus's game 319 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: and a goal and to assist. But to me, the 320 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: biggest thing about the Penguins, the power play has been 321 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: great all years, functioning at almost thirty four percent, was 322 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: three for four last night. When you can go on 323 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: the road and play against the Rick Pocket coach team 324 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 3: and have that kind of success on the power play 325 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: and That says a lot about your preparation and the anger. 326 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: I think Tom Moore than anything else that they had 327 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: have to be enthrobbed him on Saturday Night by Toronto. 328 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt Special Teams told the story last night. 329 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second. But with Sid, 330 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: why do you think he embraces being the villain so 331 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: much against Philadelphia? Because you can see he likes it 332 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: a little more when he goes into that barn and 333 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: puts up goals. 334 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: Mariyol was very much the same way, you know, and 335 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: I had the privilege of being around him. I did 336 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: most of Sid's games early in his career, and that's 337 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: when Peter Lovey had led early on in Sid's career, 338 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: in early on in Cloe Drew's career said, you know, 339 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: it's interesting that we had the very best player in 340 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: the world leading cloturew and on powerful pyraphreezing. But I 341 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: think that kind of stuck in Sidd's crawl a little bit. 342 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: And every time he went into the new building in 343 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: Philadelphia after the Spectrum got torn down, I mean, it 344 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: was just a different deal, and the fans were after him. 345 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: You know again, I gotta tell you I was there 346 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: up for a lot of it. Fans after him a lot. 347 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: I thought Tristan Jarry was just fantastic and net last night. Pierre, 348 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: would you start him again in Tampa Bay on Thursday 349 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: and maybe start leaning more towards him, or would you 350 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: stick with that true rotation they've had gone with him 351 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: and she LOFs because you have. 352 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: Such a big break before the next game. They don't 353 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 3: play in Tampa till Thursday, right and I think they 354 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: had their team Christmas party to night, which is a 355 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 3: good thing, not a bad thing. I would say that 356 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: I go back to Tristan because then on Sunday and 357 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: again you got a big rest before you have to 358 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: go into Dallas, and then you've got three home games. 359 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't think this is a 360 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: heavy work road for Tristan right now. You'd like to 361 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: see him get in a little bit of rhythm, Tom 362 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: and I think that'd be a good thing for him 363 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: and for the team. 364 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: No, I completely agree with you, Pierre. 365 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: I honestly would maybe just give him the rest of 366 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: the road trip, let him play Thursday in Tampa as 367 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: long as that goes well, give him Sunday against Dallas 368 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: and then maybe go back to she Lofts to start 369 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: that homestand and it's not just Jarry who's playing well 370 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: and deserving of it. Pierre, I think she lost could 371 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: use a little bit of a reset. He's had some struggles, 372 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: been pulled in two of his last starts. 373 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree with that. I mean, obviously the 374 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: whole team wasn't particularly good against Toronto, so that's one 375 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 3: of those really trying to say to the firm the 376 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 3: tape please. But no, I there's something to be said 377 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: for what you know, younger players in particular. It's not 378 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: like she lost as a total mea play. He's never 379 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: been in the league and I played a lot of 380 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: big games for Vancouver earlier when he was there and 381 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: before coming to Pittsburgh. But I do think there's something 382 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: to be value by what you said, Tom in terms of, 383 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: you know, guys sometimes need to push a reset button, 384 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 3: and I think in the case of Archers in particular, 385 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: this might be the best time to. 386 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: Do it now. 387 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, Pierre, last night in Philadelphia, the special 388 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: Teams was awesome for the Penguins. They were three for 389 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: four in the power play. They successfully killed six of 390 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: seven flyer power plays, and that's really been the story 391 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: for the Penguins all year long, hasn't it? The number 392 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: one power playing hockey, the number for penalty kill. 393 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: That's coaching, that's players paying attention to detail. And it's 394 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: not that long ago when they're talking about the malais 395 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: of the Pittsburgh Penguin power play and how bad it 396 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 3: was into the previous coaching staff, And it wasn't bad 397 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: for like six months. It was bad for like three years. 398 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: And so you know, absolutely, I think this is tremendous. 399 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 3: And you got to give a lot of credit to Mike'stuthers, 400 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 3: who's a big part of the penalty killing. You've got 401 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: to give a lot of credit to Todd Nelson, who's 402 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: a big part of the power play. But one other 403 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: thing that I think is really important. When Dan Newston 404 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 3: was with the New York Rangers in particular, their penalty 405 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: kill was really good and they did a lot of 406 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: damage shorthanded. So I think Dan Deserre's some credit with 407 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: this as well. So it's total team effort in terms 408 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: of the coaching staff. But I think the players are 409 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: responding to the new message. Tom, I think you'd agree 410 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: with me most punling stoff. Before this season started, Pittsburgh 411 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: wasn't going to be a viable cannedy for a playoff position, 412 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: Didney Cross, You had a really good chance to be traded, 413 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: this said, a chance to be just a disaster. And 414 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: all three of those things are wrong right now, all 415 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: three of them. And that's great. I think that's so 416 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: fantastic for the city and for the organization and Pierre. 417 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: I think a big reason why all three of those 418 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: things are wrong right now, and I think a big 419 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: reason why the power play has had such success the 420 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: best in the league right now is due to Ben Kendall. 421 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not leaping everything onto the eighteen year old 422 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: kids shoulders and saying you're the reason why solely, but 423 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: he has been such. 424 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: A revelation for this team. 425 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: He's become a force, you know, driving play five on five, 426 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: and boy, he's really been remarkable on the power play. 427 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: I mean, he looks like he's going to be an 428 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: elite power play player for his entire career at this 429 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: light in this league, Well said. 430 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: They're not a lot of eleventh overall picks that come 431 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: into the league as an eighteen year old. They're able 432 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: to do what this young man's doing. Sydney's got to 433 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: be happy about it. Gino's got to be happy about it. 434 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: Ryan Rust got to be happy about it. And you 435 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: know the guy that's really starting to thrive besides Kindall 436 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: and the power plays Eric Carlson, that play that he 437 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: made last and transporting the part from his own zone 438 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: into the flyer zone and then moving it over to 439 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: Brian rescue eventually gets it over to Sid. That's the 440 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: old Eric Carlson that I'm used to seeing. And you 441 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: can see there's a whole lot of being bigger and 442 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: vitality in his game right now. And that's great to see. 443 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: That's so awesome to see. 444 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: No, I was actually going to bring that up as well. 445 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: This seems like it's the best Eric Carlson the Penguins 446 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: have seen. This is the Eric Carlson that Kyle Dubas 447 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: was trading for a few years back. 448 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: And why do you think that is? 449 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, so naive to rule out that 450 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: he's motivated by being left off of that preliminary roster 451 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: for Team Sweden. Little motivation there, and hey, I'm okay 452 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: with that because the Penguins are reaping the benefits for it. 453 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: That is such a good point. And I'll tell you 454 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: one thing that's really important. I saw you are a 455 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: good friend, Paul steiger Wall this morning. I saw her 456 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: Carlson in the World Junior. I saw her Carlson play 457 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: in the Olympic Games, and Eric Carlson in twenty four 458 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: team helped get Sweden to the gold medal game where 459 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: they got hammered by Canada to do nothing. But that 460 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: game wasn't even close. And one of the only players 461 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: from Sweden that you could say, man, this guy belonged 462 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 3: in this game was Eric Carlson. He was stupendous. He 463 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 3: played on the right side, he played on the left side. 464 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: I mean, he created so many chances. So that's the 465 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: Eric Carlson I'm used to seeing. I'm used to seeing 466 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 3: him with the Ottawa Senators making unbelievable plays against the 467 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 3: Boston Bruins or against the New York Rangers of the 468 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: Buffalo Sabers. And when I saw him go from San 469 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: Jose to Pittsburgh, I was like, this can't be the 470 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 3: same unit. It can't be. And all of a sudden, 471 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: he's got this pop to his step and he's back 472 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: to the player that I'm used to see him. So 473 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: you bring up the Olympics, that's gotta be near and dear. 474 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: It was hard and you think about it, the Swedes 475 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: and O six that was their really shining moment they 476 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: win the gold in Toronto. I did that game with 477 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: Doc Emerck and with John Davidson, and I would tell 478 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: you this right now, Sue, because of their death and 479 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: defense and in goal, they think they got a legitimate 480 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 3: chance and compete for the gold medal in Courtina. So 481 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: that'll that'll be a team that I'm sure they'll want 482 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: to be partner. 483 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Pierre, call me crazy, but when Justin Brazil and Rick 484 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: card Raquel get healthy, this Penguin's lineup is really going 485 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: to start to take shape, and it's going to be 486 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: pretty deep, especially if the kid line that we saw 487 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: last night a McGroarty, Kindle and coyven and starts to 488 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: gain some traction and some consistency throughout the year. I mean, 489 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: this is a team that is really taking shape or 490 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: looking like a playoff team. 491 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: Uh No, you can't. Nobody can doubt their ability to play. 492 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: They just got to stay healthy. You talk about Raquel, 493 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: it'll be a huge addition. Brazil will obviously go back 494 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: on with MalCon and Manta. That line was shitting in 495 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: the NHL at the start of the year. And let's 496 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: not forget Nola chari Ye. Nola Cherry is a really 497 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: important player, is a death player. This is not taking 498 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: anything away from bocal Imana, who I thought did some 499 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: really nice things last night. Even though play a time, 500 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: he still get some nice things. Knowles has got a 501 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: little bit more savvy than Boco right now, but that 502 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: doesn't mean Alna can't play. He can. I think things 503 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: are starting to slought a lot better for Pittsburgh. You 504 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: see Crosby Malcolm Kindle, that's a good one too. Three 505 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: down the middle, that's perfect for Kindall. He's not going 506 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: to be exposed in a lot of big moments as 507 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: he gets more and more fatigue. Is that will happen 508 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: right after Christmas, you'll see. And Lazat's a real good 509 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: four And if Lizzatt can't handle it because he's undersized 510 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: and the charity can be play center. So Pittsburgh is 511 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: definitely looking like a roster that's going to be able 512 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: to push for the bottom part of the playoffs for sure. 513 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: Well, TENG let's go to Tampa Bay on Thursday PR 514 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: Tampa's won seventh straight. They're the hottest team in the NHL. 515 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: They do play tonight in New York against the Islanders. 516 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: What do you think's gone into them lately in their 517 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: hot stretch. 518 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: I think they're just part of people saying they're no good. 519 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: And what happens when you're camping and you're watching them play, 520 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: and I've watched all their games. They hadn't been playing 521 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: with bradon Points, they hadn't been playing with Victor Headman, 522 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: they hadn't been playing with Eric Chernock, and they hadn't 523 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: been playing with Ryan McDonough. So you got all these 524 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: guys they're not, you know, really big name guys on 525 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 3: defense in particular, and they're saying, you know what, I 526 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: prefer riding on the big plane and staying at the 527 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: four seasons of the Rich Carlton and riding on the 528 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: iron long and smelling diesel human eating fast food. This 529 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: is what you do in the American Hockey League a lot. 530 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: So I think a lot of guys are saying, you 531 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: know what, I want to show not just the Tampa 532 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: day Light, but all the teams that were playing against 533 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: while I'm up here that I got a chance to 534 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: be in NHLer. So they got a lot of PPW 535 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: going on proving people wrong. They're in Tampa and it's 536 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: really working for them. I give him a lot of credit, 537 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: John Keeper, because you're a huge prais. And then the bottom, 538 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: the last part of it is they're getting goalpenning. They're 539 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: getting eleague goal tending by Basileski and that's been huge 540 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: for them. 541 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: And then, as we mentioned, the Penguins wrap up the 542 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: road trip in Dallas and Pierre. 543 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 544 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Colorado only has one regulation loss to date this year, 545 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: and yet Dallas has just one LEF win on the 546 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: season and they're right there four points behind Colorado in 547 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: the Central Division. Are those your top two teams right 548 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: now in the NHL? I know points wise they are, 549 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: But are the standings lying or telling the truth? 550 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: Well, the standings are telling the truth. And here's the 551 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 3: one giveaway that nobody really looks at the gold differential. 552 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: Colorado's plus forty eight Dallas is plus twenty two. Those 553 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: are the two best goal differentials in the league. Those 554 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: numbers don't lie, you know, Usually those are the teams 555 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: that have the best goal differentials or at the top 556 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: of the standings. Nobody wants to talk about it, but 557 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: it's just the way it is in the business. The 558 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 3: Central Division is a division of death. It really is Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota, 559 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: and then you start looking, Chicago's starting to come up, 560 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 3: Utah's starting to come up. Winnipeg hasn't played very well. 561 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: They've only won four in their last ten. But to me, 562 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 3: the biggest thing is is that that division, especially the 563 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: top end teams and the ones that are starting to 564 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: evolve like Utah and chicag wrote, make that division extremely difficult. 565 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: And you led me into what I was just going 566 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 2: to bring up. 567 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: You talked about Chicago and then coming on, Connor Bodard 568 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: has been fantastic this year. Macklin Celebrini has been great 569 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: in San Jose, Carlson with Anaheim, There's a lot of 570 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: young superstars really coming into their prime. And unless we 571 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: forget Logan Cooley, the local kid for the Utah Mammate 572 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: all great points. 573 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: And I just remember I remember talking to Mark about 574 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: this time not that long ago, you know, when when 575 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: Gretzky and Lemiir were going out of the league. There 576 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: was a big concern who's going to fill the boy. Well, 577 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: they get very lucky that Ovetskin ended up in Washington, 578 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: and Crosby and knock And ended up in Pittsburgh, and 579 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: those three guys kind of steered the league for a 580 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: long time. And then Cam and Taves came in and 581 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 3: that kind of game. Those guys some insulations, so it 582 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: was really good. Now you just nailed a bunch of them, 583 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 3: like just a whack of those great young players. I 584 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 3: watched Carlson play last night. He was outstanding in Saint Louis, 585 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: and I just can't say enough about what's going on 586 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: and sell a Greening, what's going on with the Dart 587 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: and this kid Matthew Schaeffer with the Andders. Yeah, he's 588 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: a real deal. This kid's really special. The one thing 589 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: I'd say, just because we're getting close to the Olympics 590 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: now and people are asking me all kinds of Olympic questions, 591 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 3: Canada has an embarrassing array of riches. Offensively, they're not 592 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: as good in gold and they're not as good on 593 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: defense as some of the other countries. I wouldn't be 594 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: surprised if one of the two Fella Greene or the 595 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: Dart makes the tea or makes the team, so that's 596 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 3: going to I don't think both of them all. I 597 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: think one or the other will and that will be 598 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: interesting to see. And part of why I say that 599 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: Canada winning their less than LL six when they left 600 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: Crosby home and they got embarrassed in Tono and they 601 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: never made that mistake again in twenty ten or twenty fourteen. 602 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: Finally, Pierre, if Sidney Crosby keeps up the scoring pace, 603 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: which I have no doubt he will as long as 604 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: he stays healthy, and if the peng was make the playoffs, 605 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: which I'm starting to believe that they're gonna do that 606 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: as well, Don't you think Sidney Crosby should be getting 607 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: serious MVP conversation come the end of the year. 608 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah. The only problem is is Buddy 609 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: in Colorado. 610 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: Tearing it up. 611 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, is just shredding the league right now. And then 612 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: the guy down in Tampa by the name of puture 613 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: Off that's had this unbelievably understated season for the Tampa 614 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: Bay Lightning. But no, I gotta think Sid's in the 615 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: conversation for most of the pundits that are actually watching 616 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: the games. The guys that don't watch the games, they'll 617 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: never think that Sid, or they just won't vote for Sid. 618 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: But the guys that are actually watch and girls that 619 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: are watching games don't know that Sydney should be in 620 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: that conversation for sure. 621 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: And if he keeps scoring goals like this, Pierre, he'll 622 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: have an eye popping number that way, you know, fifty 623 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: goal season that even the people that don't watch the 624 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: games will be like, whoa Sid scored fifty goals? 625 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: That'll be something to think about. 626 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be. And again, I think most people 627 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: didn't have Pittsburgh being a playoff team this year. So 628 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: the fact that they're even gonna be by the halfway point, 629 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: we by the time all the great players hit over there, 630 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: you know, fourteina, I would say that the Pittsburgh Penguins, 631 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: if they're still in a playoff position, there's gonna be 632 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: a lot of buzz around Sydney in the MVP conversation. 633 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that, Pierre. 634 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: Thanks as always, it's always great talking to you every 635 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: week on the show. It's a special treat when I 636 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: get to fill in for Mark and do it myself. 637 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: We'll catch up next week, Tom. 638 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: Thanks so much. Have a great rest of the week. 639 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: Everybody there. 640 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: He goes Pierre Maguire, best hockey talk you will hear 641 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: in town, really anywhere, to be honest with you. And 642 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: he's brought to us by Always Say Flagging and Traffic 643 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: Control making traffic safe again. Call four one two three 644 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: oh one two three hundred or visit us online at 645 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: awsafe dot net for a quote. 646 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: Today, we'll keep the sound bite segment going. Next. 647 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: I got a couple of interesting sound bites I want 648 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: to play for you. 649 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: That's next. 650 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: We got Wesley Yuler, We got Mike de Fabos still 651 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: to come in the show as well. Tom up from 652 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: an Inframark one nine X. This segment is brought to 653 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: you by the Steelers Pro Shop. Get direct from the 654 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: team at the Steelers Pro Shop at shop dot Steelers 655 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: dot com. Tom up from an Inframark Man Today. Wes 656 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: Steeler is going to join us in just a few 657 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: minutes from now. Talks some more Steelers. I have Steelers 658 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: news though. Cornerback Darius Slay and the Steelers. 659 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: Have agreed to mutually part ways. 660 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: So Slay has been released by the Pittsburgh Steelers. And 661 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: who really cares because as long as everybody was healthy, 662 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: he would have been a healthy scratch, inactive every week 663 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: moving forward. What a terrible signing that was by the 664 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: Steelers in the offseason. Ten million dollars into a guy 665 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: that didn't even make it to December. 666 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: Not good. 667 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: But it's better to recognize the air of your ways 668 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: and part ways with him or make him inactive than 669 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: keep trotting him out there because he has a big paycheck. 670 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: So do give them credit there. James Pierre is in 671 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: the concussion protocol. Got to keep an eye on that, 672 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: and that's not something that we can even you estimate 673 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: right now and say, oh, he'll probably be good to 674 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: go come Sunday. Against the Ravens concussion protocol. There is 675 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: no gray area there. You either clear it or you 676 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: do not, So that is something to monitor. But Darius 677 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: Lay will not be getting a helmet in Pierre's absence 678 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: if Pierre can't go, because Leay's not a Steeler anymore. 679 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: And I think a little bit of what a Sante 680 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: Samuel Junior had to do played into this decision as 681 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: well for the Steelers. 682 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: We'll get into that more. 683 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: With Wes, along with some more Steelers topics, but I 684 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: do want to play a couple soundbites here that I 685 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 1: found interesting, and we start with dan Orlowski, who shares 686 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: a pretty stunning stat when it comes to the Steelers. 687 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 5: Crazy stat for really this week, but also one for 688 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 5: the whole season. There's no defense in the NFL that 689 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 5: has played more snaps than the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have 690 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 5: played eight hundred and twenty snaps of football on defense, 691 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 5: most in the NFL. And there is no offense in 692 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 5: the NFL that has played less snaps than the Pittsburgh 693 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 5: Steelers at six hundred and sixty seven. 694 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: That is the least amount of offensive snaps in the NFL. 695 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 5: That's the difference of one hundred and fifty seven snaps 696 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 5: two and a half games or so. 697 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: Now, I feel like if you're the offense that plays 698 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: the least amount of snaps, it would only naturally be 699 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: the defense that plays the most snaps in the league too. 700 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: Like it kind of feels like that kind of goes together. 701 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: But anyway, that's still a shocking thing to hear and 702 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: to highlight just how much more the defense is played 703 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: almost two and a half games worth of snaps. You know, 704 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: you're not making any excuses for the highest paid defense 705 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: in the league, and they should be a lot better 706 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: than they are. But how good can you really be 707 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: when you're playing that much more when your offense is 708 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: just that inepted time of possession. They're the worst time 709 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: of possession team in the NFL twenty seven minutes on 710 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: average per game, and that took a nosedive with their 711 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: eighteen minutes time of possession against the Buffalo Bills on Sunday. 712 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: Here's a really interesting SoundBite from James Harrison. This is 713 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: maybe the first ex Steeler player that I've heard put 714 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: voice to a coaching change and moving on from Mike Tomlin. 715 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 6: I had never been a person that thought coach Tomlin 716 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 6: was a great coach. I thought he was a good coach. 717 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 6: A good coach gets you to play to your potential. 718 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 6: And right now, the players we have on that team 719 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 6: I have seen play. I know they can do it. 720 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 6: I have seen them do it, and they're not playing 721 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 6: up to their potential. And a great coach, a great coach, 722 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 6: a great coach gets you to play beyond your potential. 723 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 6: And I know the Steelers historically don't move on from coaches, 724 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 6: but I think it's time the history be made. 725 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: Wow, Mike Tomlin's not a good coach, or a good coach, 726 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: not a great coach. That's really the first time I've 727 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: heard an next player, you know, put voice to that 728 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: and say that they don't think Mike Tomlin is a 729 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: great coach. And James Harrison's right. I know that the 730 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: Steelers have a history of never firing a coach, but 731 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: it's time to make some history. I think at this 732 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: point there's really no other options. If the Steelers were 733 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: to move on from Mike Tomlin, Marcus Spears knows who 734 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: should hire him. 735 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 7: If the Pittsburgh still is a moving away from Mike Tomlin, 736 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 7: Joe Shane should hire Mike. 737 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: Tomlin to be the head coach for the New York Giants. 738 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 7: And it's because he understands organization and structure, and there 739 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 7: is a quarterback in New York. I believe that Jackson 740 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 7: Dard is the future of the New York Giants. And 741 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 7: if you want somebody to come with unquestioned leaderships, you've 742 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 7: seen do it at a very high level, and they 743 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 7: could immediately galvanize the guys on this football team. I 744 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 7: think Mike Tomlin would be perfect for the New York Giants. 745 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: Same old cliche as there ever was right, Mike tomin 746 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: will be perfect for the New York Giants. They already 747 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: got the quarterback. Bring Jackson Darts already there. Here's the thing, though, 748 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: Marcus Spears, what evidence do you see that would make 749 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: you believe that Mike tom would be the perfect coach 750 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: to shepherd Jackson Dart to his full potential. I want 751 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: an offensive minded coach when it comes to a player 752 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: like that, not a defensive one. I think Damaico Ryan's 753 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: a great coach in Houston. Look at CJ. Stroud's development, 754 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: kind of struggling a little bit. There got a kick 755 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: ass defense. I just prefer the McVeigh, the Shanahan, the O'Connell, 756 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: the offensive mind, the guy to match up with my 757 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: young rookie quarterbacks. So I don't know what Mike Tomlin 758 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: would do for Jackson Dart as far as the leadership 759 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: he brings, the galvanization of the locker room. Sure that 760 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: could happen, but there's no reason. It isn't a reason 761 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: to not move on for Mike Tomlin just because another 762 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: team would pick him up. In just thirty seconds, west 763 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: Yuler is going to join us in studio to keep 764 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: the steeler talk going tom on. 765 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: From an in for Markets one of five nine, the 766 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: X