1 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: Well, the weekend is upon us. Welcome aboard. You're at 2 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: home with Gary Salvin, taking through another weekend, getting a 3 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: few things done around the home. Thanks for joining me 4 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: and just talking about things to pay attention to about 5 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: your home and taking care of the problem as they occurred. 6 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Don't let them stack up on you, because it'll get 7 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: it'll get out of hand in a hurry. One of 8 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: the things in last weekend when we were talking, we 9 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: had snow. We hit probably ave in snow where I 10 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: met a lot of parts right in the Midwest, had 11 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of snow in New England. I think you 12 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: had some snow. And now all of a sudden, well 13 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: it's not it's not like seventy degrees, but around Christmas 14 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: it will be around sixty degrees where I'm at. And 15 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm always talking about you know, when we have the 16 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: snow and we use you know, ice melters and salts 17 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: and everything, and you know, once the snow's gone, everybody 18 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: forgets about it. Right now, we survived that, We're good, 19 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're all set. And then we got the 20 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: holidays coming and we got people coming and going in 21 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: our homes. Make sure and this is this is really 22 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: good advice. Holidays are not holidays after a snow, if 23 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: you get a warm patch or something where you can 24 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: get outside even with a broom and sweep the residue away, 25 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: or if you can you know, you got a hose 26 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: a spickett in the garage and you can squirt out 27 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: the garage. Getting that residue off, really it's great. It's 28 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: a great way to prevent problems because especially road salt 29 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: that you'll pull in from your car up on your 30 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: driveway or on your apron, if you haven't sealed concrete 31 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: for a while, and that rock salt and water, it's corrosive. 32 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: It's not good for concrete and the surface that concrete. 33 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: In some cases we'll start spawling, it'll start popping off, 34 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and just getting that residue off helps prevent that. Now, 35 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: the residue itself just laying there in a powder form 36 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: isn't really don't hurt anything. But with a little bit 37 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: of water, be it a little dew, a little moisture, 38 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: and it's always kind of or just you know, moisture 39 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: from the car, any type of moisture, it reactivates that 40 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: and it's that salty brained solution is very corrosive. So 41 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: and the other end of that is people that are 42 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: coming to visit during the holidays tracking that in on 43 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: your wood floors, on carpeting. It's a grid. I mean, 44 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: it's an abrasive and you know, you can I'm not 45 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: gonna say you're gonna, you know, damage your wood floors 46 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: because people walk in your house. But the other hand 47 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: thing is, you know, we got you know, maybe a 48 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: little mat outside and maybe a little rug right in 49 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: the front door. Maybe you're walking right into carpet and 50 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: you got a runner or something along those lines. Anything 51 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: you can do to prevent that residue, that grid from 52 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: being tracked into your home beneficial, beneficial for sure. And 53 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: then you know, every spring, one of the biggest questions 54 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: and one of the biggest projects we have is taking 55 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: care of the concrete, making it look better than it 56 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: looks like after a harsh winter, because in a lot 57 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: of cases, we'll have cracks, we'll have the spawling on 58 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: the surface, and you know, people want to address that 59 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: in the spring. So if we can keep that corrosive 60 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: residue off the surface, we minimize how much maintenance we 61 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: have to do. And it's never too late either. I 62 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: mean if we do have some warm weather next weekend. 63 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, weather at least where I am in the 64 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: winter time can be crazy. You know. You can have 65 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: zero degrees in snow and the next week you can 66 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: have sixty degrees. And I know that's like that in 67 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: many places. And if you get in a warm day 68 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: and you can address some of those issues, you should 69 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: take advantage of that. You should take advantage of that, 70 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: for sure. And one of the things you can always 71 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: help prevent that too, and probably too late in a 72 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: lot of parts of the country now, especially cold weather 73 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: climates where we're kind of talking about this issue, is 74 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: ceiling concrete. You know, people always you know, do you 75 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: really need to seal concrete? Now you don't, No, you don't, No, 76 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: you don't, Yes you do, No, you don't. Mixed thoughts 77 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: on it, but you do, you do, And especially it 78 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: depends on where you live. But you know, if you 79 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: live in cold weather climates and you can minimize moisture 80 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: penetration of that concrete, which ceiling does, you'll be ahead 81 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: of the game. And if you live in warm weather 82 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: climates and you always have fungus or molds or mildews 83 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: growing on the surface. In other words, they're discolored ceiling. 84 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: It makes a difference. So there's a you know, ceiling 85 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: is important. And how long does it lasts? Hey, you 86 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: know you could probably get depends on how much sunshine 87 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: you get, but you know you'd be safe resealing probably 88 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: every about three years. That's a good number. I'd like 89 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: to tell you five five would be good for vertical brick, 90 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: but for a driveway, usually every three years is going 91 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: to be, you know, satisfactory. Easy to do. In a 92 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: lot of cases, you want to breatheable sealer, you want 93 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: to penetrating into the concrete, and literally you can take 94 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: a tank sprayer unless it's a gloss or a surface seiler, 95 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: which you would have on pattern concrete exposed to aggregate concrete, 96 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: stamp concrete, those type of things. But you know, if 97 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: it's just a penetrating product, sure you can just put 98 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: it on with the tank sprayer. All right. Again, Our 99 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: phone number is eight hundred eighty two three eight two 100 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: five five Brandon, Welcome. 101 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Gary. I love the show. I'm a 102 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: maybe a second or a third time caller now, and 103 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: I just heard you talking about the smart home stuff. Yeah, yeah, 104 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: Well I'm in Illinois and Amerin had a they had 105 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: some kind of thing where they were offering free thermostat 106 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: and free Bluetooth type Wi Fi light bulbs. So I 107 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: went ahead and took them up on it. And I'm 108 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: kind of OCD. I check a lot of things. I'm 109 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: weird about light switches to begin with, so I install these. 110 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: I got WiFi in the house. I love them. I 111 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: can be at work, I can turn on the lights, 112 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: I can turn them off, you know, my exterior lights, 113 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: and I got one in the kitchen and I set 114 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: them on certain timers in the night time, so and 115 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: even if I'm gone for a few days, they still 116 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: come on and off. So someone's skin. 117 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: Still around, right right. Yeah, it's interesting. I have people 118 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: that'll say, like, I just don't even want to go, 119 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, bother with that. But I've got several things 120 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: in there, even cloud based exterior lights, which are I 121 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: think it's really cool. You can just some pumps that 122 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: will tell you or you could activate them from your phone. Hey, 123 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: you know they they they they're helpful. And I know 124 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: some people just a little resistant to it. And I'm 125 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: sure there's products out there that can cause you a 126 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: little angst, but I'm with you. I kind of enjoy 127 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: some of the uh the newer products in the smart home. 128 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: I was weird about it at first, but I believe 129 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: one of the well, the thermostat Gary. My furnace is 130 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: too old. It didn't have the the blue wire to 131 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: connect it. I still have the thermostat, but I'm still 132 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: running a pretty old furnace. But the best purchase, as 133 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: far as uh Wi Fi and and all that goes, 134 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: the best smart device I've ever purchased for my home 135 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 2: is my I believe it's a Media brand dehumidifier for 136 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: my basement. Oh yeah, okay, and it comes with an 137 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: app so I can be at work. You know it 138 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: starts raining. I can turn that on and it tells 139 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: me the indoor humidity and what you know, what percent 140 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: it's said at. And you know, I have it into 141 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: a five gallon bucket for my plants. I actually use that, 142 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: but it'll get my basement bone dry. And I can 143 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: do it all for my phone. All you got to 144 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: do is just leave it plugged in. I could be 145 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: I could be anywhere in the world and turn that on. 146 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: See people, you and me on the OCD thing. I'm 147 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: right there with you. And these are the greatest things 148 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: to just check all the time. 149 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, they definitely help people like that. I, you know, 150 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: I can check my I got a camera, security system, 151 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: the dehumidifier, the Bluetooth lights. It just makes it look 152 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: like someone's here, and you know, I can check on 153 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: everything in the house and super very good. 154 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: Thanks for your input, Brandon, I appreciate it. 155 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you're a great guy. I love the show 156 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: and I look forward to you almost every weekend. I 157 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: listen to you. 158 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. Take care, I have a great holiday. 159 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: All right, we'll continue, We'll take a break and Mark 160 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: you'll be up first, and then Pat. 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When 212 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 6: I'm asking a question because a friend of mine is 213 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 6: who has about a ten year old house is having 214 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 6: his insulation completely removed from his house and new insulation 215 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 6: put in because the evidently the contractor put in poor 216 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 6: insulation and it doesn't have the R factor it should. 217 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 6: And so it's just bringing a question in my mind 218 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 6: of whether or not removing installation from your attic from 219 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 6: time to time and putting in new installation that's kind 220 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 6: of I guess mice repellent kind of insulation and a 221 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 6: better ART factor if if that's a smart investment or 222 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 6: if that's really necessary, well. 223 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: I think it's always removing is not always nossary. There's 224 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: all these different types of insulation, there's different circumstances, there 225 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: are different building eras that we use different things. But 226 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: the quick answer is to check what you have, and 227 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: you know the type of insulation you have, and you 228 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: know the depth of the insulation, and you can kind 229 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: of patch together what the R value you have in 230 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: your attic is. And let's say you got fiberglass insulation, 231 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: which is an R value of about two point five 232 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: per inch of thickness, and so you have you know, 233 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: xyz of inches. And let's say you come up with 234 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: your R value is in R twenty. You go to 235 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: the Department of Energy or you go up to the 236 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: home depot and you look at rolls of insulation. There's 237 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: an insulation map. Follow the zone you're in, and in 238 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: my zone it'll say R forty two. Well, it's about 239 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: sixteen inches of you know, maybe more, maybe eighteen inches 240 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: of insulation required, and I only have ten inches. Then 241 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,239 Speaker 1: you can put insulation right on top of existing insulation. 242 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Now there's other you know, there's certainly circumstances you wouldn't 243 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: want to do that. If you hit a mouse problem 244 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: up there and you got mouse feces all over and 245 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: they've been using it as a nest, probably pull the 246 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: old stuff out. If there's a fan that wasn't vented 247 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: properly and it's moldy, probably pull that out. But in 248 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: most cases you can just blow it right over the 249 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: top of it and you'll be fine. You can even 250 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: mix from a blown in fiberglass on top of a 251 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, batting fiberglass. The only way you get in 252 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: trouble is if you start covering up the ventilation on 253 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: the sides, or if you put down another vapor barrier. 254 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: There's usually a vapor barrier down on the back side 255 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: of the ceiling, but you can put you know, loose 256 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: fille run on top of that. So so it depends. 257 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: I guess, is the the only way I'd remove it 258 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: if if that insulation was really compromised and soiled or 259 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: very very compacted. 260 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 6: Sure, so I do have uh, And I'd probably catch 261 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 6: two or three mice up there annually, particularly in the winter, 262 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 6: and I put traps up there, So I'm guessing there 263 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: is some you know, mice s feces up there before 264 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 6: I've caught them, right, And ye. 265 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: I'd have to think, yeah, yeah, I mean you might 266 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: have some. I would. I would think a lot of 267 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: homes have that. To be honest with you, I got 268 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: up my attic one time about ten years ago. There's 269 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: dead birds. I don't even know how they got in. 270 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: I never did could I've never had the problem again. 271 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: But I'd start the process with how deep is my 272 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: insulation and then just kind of examine it and see 273 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: if it's moldy, your soil. Of it's molting soiled, i'd 274 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: pull with otherwise I'd go right over the top of it. 275 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 6: Okay, sounds good. All right, awesome, appreciate your advice. 276 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: Very good, Thank you, take care. All right, let's go 277 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: to Pat. Pat, welcome. 278 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 7: Than Good morning, Gary, sir, Good morning morning. Going back 279 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 7: to your question when you're talking about more winterization. So 280 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 7: I have a you know, a thirty three inch wide 281 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 7: walk behind more self called. But I put in a 282 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 7: shutoff valve last year from the gas tank to the motor. 283 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 7: Should I still do some winterization with the with the 284 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 7: gas in the tank Yeah, I mean I have shut 285 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 7: off valve. 286 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, yeah, well it shut Off's fine. But if 287 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: you have gas in that tank already, you know, gas 288 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: over time will varnish, especially if it's inactive, you know, 289 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: for like six months. I think, uh, it's probably a 290 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: good time frame. You could either put a stabilizer in 291 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: there to stabilize it or to remove it. 292 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 7: Okay, because I used to just burn it out, just 293 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 7: run it, run it dry. 294 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: But that's what I do. 295 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 7: Probably half a tank in there now, which is kind 296 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 7: of a waste of gas. Sure I can, Should I 297 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 7: fill the tank up all the way and then put 298 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 7: the winners. They put the stabilizer in. 299 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you can do is figure out how much 300 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: you know about how much is in the tank, right, 301 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: and then if you have some gas, put this stabilizer 302 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: in that gas and you know even a little bit 303 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: more because of the gas in the tank, and then 304 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: fill it up all the way. And what that does 305 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: is they'll just minimize condensation. 306 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 7: Okay, okay, all right, all right, that was easy enough. 307 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 7: Thank you very much. 308 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome, thank you. All right, Thinking about a 309 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: roof and we're always talking about asphalt shingles, and they 310 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: seem to be in the news a lot with insurance 311 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: and all kinds of things in black streaking, and so 312 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: the metal roofing industry continues to grow. Todd Miller, he's 313 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: with Classic Metal Roofing. 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We've been 357 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: talking a lot about roofs and it seems like they're 358 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: always talked about, and it's about asphalt shingles, and so 359 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: I thought i'd reach out to my friend Todd Miller. 360 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: He is with Classic Metal Roofing and kind of see 361 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: where the metal roofing industry is these days. I would 362 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: assume it's growing, especially with some of the natural disasters 363 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: that have taken place, and I think, quite honestly, some 364 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: of the not so good press that asphalt shingles are getting. 365 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: So Todd Miller, welcome that home with Gary Salvan. How 366 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: you doing. 367 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 8: I'm doing fantastic. Thank you so much for having me today, 368 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 8: Garrett Pleasure. 369 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. So how is the metal roofing industry going? 370 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 8: You know, we continue to grow, and you hit on 371 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 8: something important there. A lot of times, the natural disasters 372 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 8: kind of point people toward, hey, there has to be 373 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 8: a better way to roof my home. And a few 374 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 8: years ago when several hurricanes hit Florida, we saw that 375 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 8: happen in Florida, and Florida very much has turned toward 376 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 8: metal in recent years. And now the big thing is 377 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 8: the horribly tragic fires out in southern California just about 378 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 8: a year ago. As people are starting to think about 379 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 8: rebuilding and even remodeling if they did survive the fires 380 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 8: without devastation. We are seeing a lot of heads and 381 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 8: thoughts turning toward metal roofing in southern California right now. 382 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, what kind of propped in might call to you? 383 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: Is well, two things happened. Number one, I saw report 384 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: where they were testing s phalt shingles on hell damage 385 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: and across the boarder, I'm going to screw this up? 386 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: Is a bad a criteria is and nobody ended up 387 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: with a classification of as excellent. So that was a 388 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: little concerning. I know the shingles have gotten a little thinner. 389 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: I know algae has become you know, unsightly on shingles 390 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: that are over ten years old. What else is going on? 391 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: Insurance companies they want to pro rate roofs asphalt shingles. 392 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how that applies to metal. And I thought, 393 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: after I heard all that, I said, you know what, 394 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: we got to talk to Todd about metal roofing because 395 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: you think metal roofing and uh, quite honestly, everybody thinks, oh, 396 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: when it rains, it's going to be loud, and how's 397 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: that do with hail? So why don't you give me 398 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: the benefits of metal roofing, Todd. 399 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 8: Sure, And you know you touched on the insurance industry there, 400 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 8: and absolutely insurance is trying to figure out how they 401 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 8: can quit having to people knew roasts every year. The 402 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 8: insurance industry and many of these hail prone areas is 403 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 8: extremely upside down, and so they've been looking at a 404 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 8: number of options reducing coverage. In fact, probably a lot 405 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 8: of your listeners have gotten letters from their insurance companies 406 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 8: that referenced roof damages in hail, and most of those 407 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 8: letters are hard to even understand. But the point is 408 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 8: they're trying to figure out how to not have to 409 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 8: keep replacing roosts due to hail damage. And you know, 410 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 8: I think one of the keys that is a big 411 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 8: benefit of metal roofing is that it doesn't lose its resiliency, 412 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 8: It doesn't lose its strength, that it doesn't have all 413 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 8: these oils in it that evaporate and dry out so 414 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 8: that it becomes weaker with age. A metal roof will 415 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 8: resist hail, it will be just as resilient and high winds, 416 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 8: just as fire resistant in thirty forty fifty years as 417 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 8: it is when it's first installed. Whereas you look at 418 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 8: most other roofing materials and you know, including as a shingles, 419 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 8: including wood shingles that used to be used a lot 420 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 8: in creating tile. There are some newer polymer products on 421 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 8: the market. We're not quite sure how those are going 422 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 8: to fair. But you know, most of those products tend 423 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 8: to lose a lot of that strength and resiliency as 424 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 8: they age, and that just isn't the case with metal. 425 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 8: So for that reason, insurance companies like metal in a 426 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 8: lot of respects and in many cases where they have 427 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 8: started to regulate, hey, we won't ensure anybody with the 428 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 8: roof over fifteen years old. In most cases, if those 429 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 8: homeowners dig a little bit, they will find that there 430 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 8: are there is a pathway for getting their roof in 431 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 8: or their home insured if it has a metal roof 432 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 8: on it, despite that metal roof maybe being fifteen, twenty, 433 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 8: thirty five years old. 434 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: Not that money is the only concern, but in terms 435 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: of metal roofing that that's going to last. I think 436 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: the weren't you but fifty years or something? 437 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 8: I mean, you're pretty common forty to fifty years sometimes 438 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 8: lifetime for the initial owner. 439 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, how's the insurance treat doz I mean, is there 440 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: a discount to the homeowner in terms of insurance if 441 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: you have a metal roof. 442 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 8: So it's kind of a double edged sword for the 443 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 8: insurance industry. They realize that metal roofts are very resilient, 444 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 8: very long lasting, but they also know if there's some 445 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 8: sort of disaster that does destroy that roof, they're going 446 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 8: to have a fairly expensive plane because metal risks do 447 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 8: have a higher upfront cost. So what we have seen 448 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 8: is they will offer discounts in some areas of the country, 449 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 8: especially in hail prone areas of the country, they will 450 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 8: offer a discount for metal roofing. We've also seen in 451 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 8: some cases a homeowner might be paying extra on their 452 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 8: insurance if they have, say a wood roof due to 453 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 8: the fire hazard, or even if they have an older 454 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 8: asshole roof, they may still be being insured but simply 455 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 8: be paying more because of it. So if you replace 456 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 8: with a metal roof, make sure you go back to 457 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 8: your insurance got me and find out if you've been 458 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 8: paying anything extra for that old roof that can now 459 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 8: go away now that you have a new roof. 460 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Beth Harper on. She's an insurance broker 461 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: out of Cleveland. We had her on last week and 462 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 1: we've had different discussions. I knew there's big changes, you know, 463 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: with insurance and roofing, and we were talking about a 464 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: lot of those things. But I think metal roofing brings 465 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: so much more to the table than just the insurance 466 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: and one of his energy savings. A lot of people 467 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: don't look at a roof as an energy saving product, 468 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: but a metal roofing can save you energy. 469 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 8: In particular during the summer. That is correct. So today's 470 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 8: metal roofs, sometimes with the coatings on them, sometimes just 471 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 8: because of the design of the product. They're designed to 472 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 8: keep heat out of the attic and to be reflective 473 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 8: of radiant heat. And what we will all often hear 474 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 8: from homeowners is they will see summertime energy savings of 475 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 8: around twenty percent due to reduced air conditioning needs. And 476 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 8: so yeah, that's pretty significant. And you know, there again, 477 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 8: that isn't something that you just get for the first 478 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 8: couple of years and it diminishes. You know, it's there 479 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 8: for the life of the roof. 480 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: How about the look of a metal roof. I'm sure 481 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: there's people listening as conversation going like, yeah, but I 482 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: don't want my house to look like a mar and 483 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: that's so far from the truth. Boy, I got a 484 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: niche down in Louisville, Kentucky, and driving through down in 485 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: that area, there's a lot of metal roofs and beautiful 486 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: homes with beautiful metal roofs, and there is a there's 487 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: quite a distinctive look on a metal roof if you 488 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: want it. Can't talk about the appearance. 489 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 8: Well, there absolutely is. There's a great variety of looks. 490 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 8: You can have that traditional vertical seam look if you 491 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 8: want that, you know, in particular on some homes colonials 492 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 8: or some ultra contemporary homes that vertical seem look looks 493 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 8: really nice. However, there are also a number of companies, 494 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 8: including ours, that manufacture a wide variety of metal shingles. 495 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 8: So you can actually have a metal roof that looks 496 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 8: like traditional asshole shingles, or maybe looks like a high 497 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 8: end slate roof or a barrel tile roof or a 498 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 8: wood shake roof. You can have the benefits of metal 499 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 8: with something that doesn't look like metal at all. 500 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 9: Is there an I mean, do most roofers do metal 501 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 9: roofing or is it kind of a Nietzsche group of 502 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 9: folks that do the installation on metal roofing and how 503 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 9: do we find those folks? 504 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 8: Sure? So, our industry has worked very hard to train 505 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 8: new installers out there, and so yes, most metal roof 506 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 8: or most roofing contractors will offer metal roofs, and a 507 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 8: lot of times they will subcontract that labor out not 508 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 8: to their typical asphalt crew, but to a metal specialist crew. 509 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 8: One of the things I really suggest people do, though, is, 510 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 8: you know, do some research online, look at the metal 511 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 8: roofs that you like, find some products you like, go 512 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 8: back to those manufacturers and say, hey, I like your product. 513 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 8: Who in my area is experienced installing this product? And 514 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 8: let the manufacturer who you know, they know who their 515 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 8: customers are, and they know who does things right and 516 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 8: who maybe doesn't do things right. Let them refer you 517 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 8: to somebody who's experienced with their product. 518 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Todd, when you just mentioned something that didn't even really 519 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: think of to even ask. But when you're looking for 520 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: a metal roof, you say different manufacturers and stuff, And 521 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: course not all manufacturers are the same kind as you stated. 522 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: For as a consumer, what kind of things are you 523 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: asking or looking for in a metal roof? 524 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 8: You know, I think aesthetics and warranty are a big one. 525 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 8: You know, I think looking at the type of coating 526 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 8: that's on the roof. So for many years, the really 527 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 8: the well most respected coating on metal roofing has been 528 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 8: a paint finish called kin or as the trade name 529 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 8: or it's PVDF polyvanildine fluoride, and the polyvanildine fluoride is 530 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 8: an extremely robust finish that's well known for its fade 531 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 8: and chalk resistance. So I would certainly look into seeing 532 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 8: what the coating is on it, what the life expectancy, 533 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 8: what the fade and chalk resistance is of that coating. Yes, 534 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 8: you're right, there's a lot of manufacturers out there, and 535 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 8: you know there are a few folks who are sort 536 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 8: of putting themselves out there as manufacturers, but they are 537 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 8: buying all shore products. 538 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: And bringing it in. 539 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 8: You'll know who the warranty is coming from. I know 540 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 8: exactly what the product warranty covers and know who who 541 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 8: stands behind that warranty. And of course when you buy 542 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 8: a roof, you're probably going to get two warranties. You're 543 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 8: going to get a product warranty from the manufacturer. You're 544 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 8: going to get an installation workmanship warranty from the contractor. 545 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 8: You certainly want to understand both of those and know 546 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 8: who is behind both of theirs. 547 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: So the warranties, is it safe to say they're almost 548 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: double of a asphalt roof, I mean, is a just 549 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: being very general? 550 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 8: You know, any warranty, of course, you always want to 551 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 8: look at the fine print, and there are certainly ways 552 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 8: to create warranties out there that have so many exclusions 553 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 8: in them that they look better than they really are. 554 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 8: But typically with a residential metal roof, we're seeing on 555 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 8: product warranty most manufacturers offering a lifetime warranty for the 556 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 8: life of the initial property owner, and then usually it 557 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 8: transfers to a forty or fifty year warranty after or 558 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 8: when the house is sold. A couple of things to 559 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 8: look at are how many times will that warranty transfer? 560 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 8: We'll just transfer one, then never again, We'll transfer multiple 561 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 8: times during the forty or fifty years, and then look 562 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 8: at the pro ration of that warranty. Two. Some roofing 563 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 8: warranties of all products pro rate down pretty heavily, whereas say, 564 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 8: maybe by year five, the coverage is only fifty percent 565 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 8: of the value of the roof. And you know that 566 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 8: is all based on the fact that you did get 567 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 8: some value and some use out of that product. But 568 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 8: there are warranties out there that do not pro rate 569 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 8: at all, and so you want to make sure you 570 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 8: understand again exactly what that warranty covers, what its limitations are, 571 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 8: how transferable it is, and whether it pro rates or not. 572 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: Certainly a metal roof is going to cost more upfront. 573 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: You had said that maybe it's a couple times. I 574 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: don't know. It's a roof that you're going to have 575 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, that's for sure. Is 576 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: there any text credits in metal roofing? 577 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 8: So well, there was a federal tax credit for a 578 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 8: number of years, and that did go away at the 579 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 8: end of twenty twenty two. What we do see is 580 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 8: some local utility incentives. The state of Michigan has had 581 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 8: a program that would help homeowners get lower interest rates 582 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 8: for buying energy efficient products. So there are some state 583 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 8: and local incentives out there. Usually, once you get to 584 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 8: the point of talking to a contractor, they're probably going 585 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 8: to know what incentives are available in your area. 586 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: Excellent, Todd. Thank you so much for join us. We're 587 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: going to do this again. I think metal roofing is 588 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: going to see a little bit of an explosion here. 589 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: I really I just feelt my bones and you're my 590 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: go to guy. How do people get a hold of 591 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: you or your website? How do we get things started? 592 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 6: So? 593 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 8: My company corporate name is Isaiah Industries. They can go 594 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 8: to Isaiah Industries dot com. They can also go to 595 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 8: classicroof dot com. Or I have an educational website at 596 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 8: ask Toddmiller dot com and folks can reach me through 597 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 8: that Todd at ask Toddmiller dot com. And I've got 598 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 8: lots of questions on that website and things I've answeredain 599 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 8: things I've helped folks with over the years. 600 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: Wonderful. Thank you so much for joining us. You guys 601 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: have a blessed Christmas and a happy. 602 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 8: New Year you too. Thank you so much, Gary taking 603 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 8: you bet you? 604 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: Thanks all right, Todd Miller, I'll tell you what he 605 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: is the man. He is the man I go to 606 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: for my information on metal roofing. I hope he certainly 607 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: has a great holiday, and we thank him for joining us. 608 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,479 Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a little break. We got Beth 609 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: coming up first. If you'd like to join us, do so. 610 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: You're at home with Gary Sullivan. 611 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: Help for your home is just a click away at 612 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 3: Garysullivan online dot com. 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Together they're your 650 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 4: guaranteed water protection system when installed by a factory certified installer. 651 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 4: To find your installer today, go to zalarpumps dot com. 652 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 1: All right, back here we go at home with Gary 653 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: Salvan again. Thank you to Todd Miller. Classic Metal Roofing 654 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: is the name of his business up in Pickwell, Ohio. 655 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: And we'll go to Beth. Beth, Welcome hither. 656 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: Gary. 657 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 10: Good to talk to you today. 658 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. 659 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 10: I can't tell you every week I learned something new. 660 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 10: It's arazing to me. You'd think by now you'd learn 661 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 10: it all, but no, I have three questions for you. 662 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 10: I only had two till I was listening to you 663 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 10: and I discovered that I need to know. 664 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 8: Well. 665 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 10: First off, we have Pergo flooring in this condo. It 666 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 10: was built in ninety eight. It's in perfect condition, it 667 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 10: looks great. But we had a little leak from a 668 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 10: refrigerator that was in our guest room. The ice, I guess, 669 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 10: came loose. And now there's there's two I don't know 670 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 10: what you call them that there's a scene where it's 671 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 10: they've gotten raised and it's almost like it's even near 672 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 10: on the top, and we need to know if we 673 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 10: need to get a professional in to glue those back 674 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 10: down or how to get those to you know, lafla 675 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 10: and look perfect again. 676 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: So that, I guess is bad and I can't see it, 677 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: but my guess is it's not going to be that easy. 678 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: How long ago did the leak happen? 679 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 10: Just this week? 680 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: All right, here's what I want you to do. It's 681 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: hard to do, but here's what I want you to 682 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: do is give it time, because sometimes that will end 683 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: up laying down fairly well, maybe not perfect, but fairly 684 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: well if it continues. My brother he had some Pergo 685 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: flooring down and it is down a month and his 686 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: kid brought up a cooler, set it down and the 687 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: cooler leaked and same thing. And I said, well give 688 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: it six months, and he's like six months. It's right 689 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: in front of the door, and it was about four 690 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: months and it laid down. If it doesn't lay down, 691 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: I think gluing that lamb in it down to the 692 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: you know, the bulk of the boards is going to 693 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: be very difficult. I think you end up replacing that board. 694 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 10: Oh okay, you know. 695 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: W'd have to come in and snap some of it 696 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: off and then replace that strip. But I'd give it. 697 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you can have somebody take a look at it. 698 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: Usually that wouldn't take anything. Maybe a flooring company, you 699 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: go in talk to them, or if somebody take a 700 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: look at it. But I wouldn't panic yet. I would 701 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,919 Speaker 1: give it, you know, four to six months and see 702 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: if that lays down. 703 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,919 Speaker 10: Okay, well it's and so maybe for now I could 704 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 10: put something over it to catch on your socks when 705 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 10: you walk by. 706 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. In fact, you know, I hate 707 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: to tell you to put something heavy on it, but 708 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: if you had something that would be heavy, and you know, 709 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, again, if it's in a bedroom, maybe you 710 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 1: can tolerate that. Yeah, yeah, you know, and put something 711 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: heavy on it and give it a chance. You know 712 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: that the air inside our homes is very dry right now, 713 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: so you know that will help. That will help. Maybe 714 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: by springtime it'll lay down. But it would be interesting, 715 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: and I'd give it a chance before I went into 716 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: glueing or even replacing that board. 717 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 10: Good good, okay, great, And that leads me into humidity. 718 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 10: You talk about it so often, but when we just 719 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 10: had this cold snap, I was like, what, I forget 720 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 10: what Gary says indoor humidity should be. 721 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: In the winter when it's really cold. 722 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 10: Why do I not know this? 723 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 724 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, when it's even freezing outside, so thirty degrees, the 725 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: perfect humidity level inside your home would be thirty five percent. 726 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: So when it's even freezing outside, thirty five percent. If 727 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: it gets down to zero, you know, even twenty five percent. 728 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: But in the wintertime, if you can hold it around 729 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: thirty five percent, you'll be doing very good. Beth. I 730 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: know you hear the music, but I'm gonna hold you over. 731 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 1: I'll put you on hold, or you'll put you on hold, 732 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: and if you can sit tight through the top of 733 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: the hour, we'll get you on the other side to 734 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: talk about your next question. You can join us. 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