1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: A M six forty. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: Gary and Shannon, Well, you don't see a lady in 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: a halter top very often being pulled out of a 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: stolen car. 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 3: Was she the driver? She was the driver. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 4: It looks like she's. 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 3: In a halter top. Huh. 9 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 4: Police have stopped this chase at Huntington and to cloud car. 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 5: They just keep pulling. 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, females. 12 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 4: I think those are all girls. 13 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: Oh that's a bra, sir. That's not a halt Is 14 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 3: it a halter that's a different Maybe. 15 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 4: It is the same one. 16 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 5: I think, Yeah. I think Shannon's right. 17 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: Wow, m it's over ladies. 18 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 4: Huntington ladies. 19 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 6: Maybe they're just dehydrated. That's not my line that you 20 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 6: lie so much. If I had said that up, Well, 21 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 6: welcome to Wednesday. Justin working joints us. We're talking about parenting. 22 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 6: We talked Wednesdays about, for. 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: One thing, parent and unconditional love. 24 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: Yes. 25 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 7: So I found this in psychology today and it kind 26 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 7: of blew my mind because I think a lot of 27 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 7: times we talk about anything going on with parenting that 28 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 7: there seems to be a lot of passive like everybody's 29 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 7: very supportive. 30 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 5: Everybody wants their. 31 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 7: Kids to feel good about themselves and so, but they're 32 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 7: they're coming at it from this standpoint of you. You 33 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 7: have to be you have to have unconditional love for 34 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 7: your kid in order to care for them, especially for 35 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 7: when they're down. And I just thought it was interesting 36 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 7: to ask you guys, because you're very smart people and 37 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 7: very articulate. Obviously you already got the job. Oh really, Okay, 38 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 7: never mind, I can go. Then I'm gonna go have 39 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 7: some more pop tarts from the place. No, it's because 40 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 7: if you give them uner like, there's got to be 41 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 7: a boundary, right, because you can't be all accepting. But 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 7: I would not be comfortable if my kid was doing 43 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 7: something that they shouldn't be, like making choices. It wouldn't 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 7: affect my ability to love them, but I wouldn't be 45 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 7: happy with them. And that's kind of what I settled on. 46 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 7: But I think I'm pulling that from my father. My 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 7: father said to me one time when he established his 48 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 7: rule about drinking. He said, listen, if you want to 49 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 7: try the stuff, we can open up the liquor cabinet 50 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 7: here and you can have whatever you want, as much 51 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 7: as you want, and then you're here and you're safe. 52 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 7: He goes, If you want me to drink with you, 53 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 7: I'll drink with you, he said. But don't ever go 54 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 7: to a party and get drunk and drive home. He goes, 55 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 7: I will make your life a living hell. He said, 56 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 7: But if it happens, call me and I will come 57 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 7: get you. And he followed it up with he never 58 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 7: said something that I thought was this eloquent and kind. 59 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: This is unfair to my father, where he. 60 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 7: Said, he goes, I won't be happy about it, but 61 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 7: you won't be in trouble. And for whatever reason as 62 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 7: a kid, that clicked in me that I was like, Oh, 63 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 7: like he loves and cares for me no matter what. 64 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 7: He just has moments where he's just unhappy with my choices. Yeah, 65 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 7: And I feel like that's really what they're saying, is 66 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 7: that your kid has to feel like you love them 67 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 7: no matter what. 68 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 3: Right. 69 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: How do you do that? I know, how do you 70 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: do that? 71 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 5: I mean? 72 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: The biggest issue is because of that that you are 73 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: weird and had the ability to discern between you and 74 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: the decisions that you made or the choices that you've made. 75 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: But there are plenty of people who cannot make that delineation. 76 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 4: They will in their heads go, well, I am the 77 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 4: things I choose to do or be, so they don't 78 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 4: understand the idea of unconditional love. I listen, I didn't 79 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: get it. I never thought of of how my parents 80 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: felt about me until I had kids. Never, I mean 81 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: never crossed my mind. 82 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 83 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: Sure they would tell me things, and yeah, they provided 84 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: my you know, a comfortable life for me when I 85 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: was growing up. That wasn't you know, full of fraud. 86 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't you know. There was no fighting in the home. 87 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: There weren't. There was no divorce, none of that stuff 88 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: there were that just didn't exist in my family. Fairy tale, 89 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: I know. But I never thought of them loving me 90 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: or caring about me in that way until I had 91 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: kids and thought. 92 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 7: Oh, maybe it's my parents were divorced, and there was. 93 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 7: I went through my youth thinking that my mom didn't 94 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 7: care about me. Thankfully, like I was very honest with 95 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 7: her at like in my I think late thirties, I 96 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 7: finally said, because I thought I thought I was late 97 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 7: for you. 98 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 5: A little bit, Well it was because here's the thing 99 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 5: I went. 100 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 7: I went through my childhood thinking she didn't care about me, 101 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 7: and then I got older and I had kids, and 102 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 7: it made even less sense. I'm like, how could you 103 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 7: just not be like care or be indifferent? 104 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: Right? 105 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 7: How does that translate? And then so then in trying 106 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 7: to figure it out, what I realized is that I 107 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 7: was very similar to my dad. Obviously they were divorced, 108 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 7: so I'm sure that there was some hurt feelings and 109 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 7: that whenever she was around me, what she saw was 110 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 7: a younger version of him, and that was probably tough. 111 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 7: And so one day I just decided, I'm like, hey, like, 112 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 7: I want you to know that I get it, but 113 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 7: I don't. I like, I get why you would feel 114 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 7: this way. And she was completely confused. She was like, 115 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 7: what are you talking about? 116 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're being very gracious giving her that out. She 117 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: reminded you, or that you reminded her of your dad? 118 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 7: Well, she said that it was rang like, which I 119 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 7: don't know if it helps. She goes, you are nothing 120 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 7: like your father, right, which I don't know if is 121 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 7: that's true. 122 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: Either, but right, but I think that you know, some 123 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: people are they are natural parents, some work very hard 124 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: at it, and some are ambivalent. And I've heard this 125 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: from my friends that have kids that go cut. You know, 126 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: my mother, I can't believe all the things I do 127 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: for my kids and I do or whatever I have, 128 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: you could how could I feel like I was ignored or. 129 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 4: What have you? 130 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: In childhood? 131 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Like like you realize it when you have kids, how 132 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: you were treated like Gary and you were both saying 133 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: you know, yeah. 134 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 7: What it did for me was it locked in clarity, 135 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 7: like all of a sudden, I was like, oh, I 136 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 7: get everything. And the first thing that hit me was 137 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 7: when my parents were, like I said, were divorced. And 138 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 7: when I was twelve, my dad I were fighting about 139 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 7: my grades and I told him I go, I'm going 140 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 7: to go live with mom while he was taking a 141 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 7: leak because I'm a classic guy. And it's funny because 142 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 7: like when my son was maybe two, I flashed back 143 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 7: to that memory and I just felt being in his 144 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 7: spot now, knowing what it's like to be a father 145 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 7: and being with your kid for that long. I only 146 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 7: had him for two years, and going oh this was 147 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 7: that was a huge gut punch. And so I apologized 148 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 7: to him, like I called him and said, hey, I 149 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 7: realized that that was probably a pretty fed up thing 150 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 7: to do to you, And he was like, you were 151 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 7: a kid like he didn't care. 152 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 5: I know it hurt him. 153 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I always knew. I think my 154 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: mom did a great job of this. Of all, I 155 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: always knew I was loved. I've always felt loved by 156 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: my parents, even when you were very clear when they didn't, 157 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: when they were not happy with me, or when they 158 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: were mad or didn't like me. 159 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 5: But it never made you feel unloved. 160 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: Never never felt unloved. 161 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 5: Ye the same. 162 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 7: And so when I talked to these specialists on the podcast, 163 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 7: these like child development psychologists, all of them, what they 164 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 7: always draw it back to a secure attachment that no 165 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 7: matter what the context of the relationship or the situation 166 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 7: with your parents, if you have secure attachment, then there's 167 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 7: virtually no trauma that you end up with. As an example, 168 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 7: I have instances where my mom told me she needed 169 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 7: a break from me, she forgot how old I. 170 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 5: Was when she was taking me out to lunch for 171 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 5: my birthday. 172 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 7: That when you look at it out a context like 173 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 7: it's these are pretty innocuous things. But they were hurtful 174 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 7: things for me, But it's because she was gone. My 175 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 7: dad said far worse things to me, like told me 176 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 7: I was stupid, retarded because I didn't know what socket wrench. 177 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 5: He asked for. 178 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 7: But he was there and he was present, and I 179 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 7: always felt like even the times you would thump me 180 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 7: or knuckle me on the head, as weird as it 181 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 7: sounds to say out loud, I. 182 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 5: Always felt like he was doing that from a place 183 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 5: of love. It was always like him trying. 184 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 7: I've tried to communicate that to my kids without the 185 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 7: hitting and the and the calling of names. 186 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: I just say, like, eighty thing, my dad called my 187 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: brother dummy and stupid. 188 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: My Mommy's get so pissed off about that. 189 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: I hope I called my kids Nimrod, like it would 190 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: take or something you keep calling dumb. 191 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, you're making. 192 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he wants another three percent. And Shannon will continue. 193 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 194 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: A M six forty. 195 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: It is what you're watching Wednesday. So a couple of things. 196 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: We're going to be asking what was what is the 197 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: song that you think defines America? And based on the early, uh, 198 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: the early responses we've gotten, it doesn't necessarily have to 199 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: include the word America, but many of them do. So 200 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: let us know what you think of the songs that define. 201 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 7: Or this is just coincidence that you mentioned Wednesday could 202 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 7: be any song music, classical piece, so it could be 203 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 7: Who's whatever reminds you. 204 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: Perfect, yes, something like that, whatever you think defines America. 205 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: Quick update out of what you watching Wednesday is coming 206 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 4: up later after that. 207 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: Quick update of Tucson suspicious man seen lurking in someone's 208 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: yard near Nancy Guthrie's home several weeks ago. Now police 209 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: are investigating that case to see if it's tied to 210 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: this kidnapping, which they seem pretty comfortable calling it at 211 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: this point a kidnapping. So we'll have the latest all 212 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: coming up after Dever's news. At the top of the hour. 213 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: Justin Worship is here with us. 214 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: We talk parenting with him. The idea of a your 215 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: kids are not on dating apps. I don't know teenagers 216 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: on dating app. 217 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 7: Here's what it says in there is that there are 218 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 7: no dating apps that have an age that are allowed 219 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 7: for below eighteen. So you can't get on tender unless 220 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 7: you lie about your age. 221 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: Right, they all lie about their age, I'm sure they do, 222 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: but why would they want to be on a dating 223 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: app that's for old people? 224 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: That's a Facebook market place. 225 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 5: I really believe. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, standon, but 226 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 5: I think you just stumbled into that. The way you 227 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: laughed at yourself was. 228 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 3: Like thought, sometimes we have to amuse ourselves. 229 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 5: But you did a somersault. 230 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: I did your kids look at people in their twenties 231 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: and think they're old? 232 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 5: Ooh, I've never asked them that. 233 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 7: I don't think so, I definitely. I mean, especially Jack, 234 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 7: it's like his favorite thing to do. It's like ninety 235 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 7: percent of what we talk about is him pretending to 236 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 7: be concerned about me losing my vision or my hearing 237 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 7: and my health is waning. 238 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: That's called gaslighting. 239 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 5: Oh, we are all well aware, and. 240 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: That is the new term. 241 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: Just so you know. 242 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 7: Gaslighting is Facebook marketplace. It's actually rage baiting now is 243 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 7: what they call it. So you can stay trying to 244 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 7: be shared. I'm here to help. 245 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. Finger on the pulse there it is. 246 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 5: But U But yeah, I don't, I don't. They've never me. 247 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 7: Yes, definitely definitely old. Like whenever I started, that was 248 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 7: my idea, like saying six seven a lot. Then they're like, no, don't. 249 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 4: Do that, don't do that. 250 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 7: But what they do is they get on these other 251 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 7: apps that are more for like friends. So they mentioned 252 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 7: discord Yuba, which I've never heard, and meet me and 253 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 7: they don't have an age limit. So these are just 254 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 7: supposed to be where you are meeting people socially and 255 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 7: connecting online like a message. 256 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 4: An interest, but not necessarily for the common. 257 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 7: Romantic common interests. But people are using that as teenagers 258 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 7: to uh, to do that, which is fascinating. Twenty five percent, 259 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 7: twenty five percent of teens are using dating apps to connect. 260 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 5: With people romantically interesting. Yeah, I found that. But it's 261 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 5: also like I always look at these. 262 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 7: Things that I think are like kind of cultural shifts 263 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 7: that are happening, and I think that I think that 264 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 7: probably our grandkids maybe are going to like have They're 265 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 7: going to meet on apps and we're not going to 266 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 7: think anything of it. 267 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: By then I think we should start calling them dating apps, 268 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: because these kids aren't on the apps to date. They're 269 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: there to text somebody who may be attractive. 270 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 7: But my son, he like he's told me, like when 271 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 7: he has a girl that he is interested in, the 272 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 7: first step is you get their snap right, you get 273 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 7: he does. I don't like to do snapchat, so he 274 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 7: gets their Insta. You don't ask a girl for her number, 275 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 7: You ask her for her Instagram handle, and then you 276 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 7: can direct messenger, right, and that's how you meet. 277 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 5: That's how you start. And then from there you get 278 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: her phone out and get to text her, so then 279 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 5: you get to go on a date. 280 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: Your kids aren't on Snap. 281 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 7: Neither of my kids have Snap that I'm aware of. 282 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 7: We have a thing where Jacob got it when he 283 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 7: turned sixteen, and so Jack is only fourteen, so he 284 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 7: can have it when he turned sixteen if he wants it. 285 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 7: If he wants it, it's Jacob. I thought had deleted it. 286 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 7: He had it for like a year, and he told 287 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 7: us that. He told us when he was talking to 288 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 7: this girl, because he met this girl randomly and she 289 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 7: asked for his Instagram handle and he told her. He goes, oh, 290 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 7: I deleted the app. And she's like, oh, why your 291 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 7: parents made you? And he's like, no, I just felt 292 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 7: like it was wasting all of my time and I 293 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 7: wasn't really getting anything from it, so I just deleted it. 294 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 7: And I was like, geez, like this kid almost parents himself, 295 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 7: Like I can't take credit for most of what that 296 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 7: kid does got here well, especially not as English. 297 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 4: Evidently jeans are strong in that family. 298 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: Another ringing a lot to the. 299 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: Table, Mr Rice Crispy treats. That's a good idea for 300 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: Super Bowl Sunday. 301 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 5: They're delicious. 302 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: I think they're underrated, No underrated? Who would underrated? 303 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: Right, Christy? 304 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 7: I'm saying it like when you think of like I'm 305 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 7: making a I'm having a party, making a dessert. 306 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: I think maybe people don't always go to you. 307 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: I think sometimes people forget that they're out there. 308 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, would you pepper in some fruity pebbles? Come on, 309 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 5: get out. 310 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: I love a little to do that. 311 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: You add the choco ooh chacos. 312 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: Yep, that's good. 313 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 4: Make a little swirl of some kind. 314 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: You're going to make us on TV. 315 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 7: She saw that they were doing it. Okay, I'm sorry. 316 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: That was off. Thank you for continuing to come in 317 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: despite all of this. 318 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: Are you kidding? I'd be like I ruined this every 319 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 5: time I come for me. 320 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: If if he doesn't, who will twelve o'clock hour when 321 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: we come back? 322 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 5: Thank you be here all the time. 323 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 4: Garry and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been 324 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You can always 325 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: hear us live on KFI a M six forty nine 326 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 4: am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime 327 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: on demand on the iHeartRadio ap