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Speaker 1: most dangerous baseball writer. He is John Parrada JP. I

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Speaker 1: know the Pirates are better, but how much better and

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Speaker 1: in what way specifically?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think.

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Speaker 3: Certainly their offense is better for no other reason. It

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Speaker 3: five or thirty Hummers this year. Even if he doesn't

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Speaker 3: So I think the offense is definitely better, and I

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Speaker 3: And of course, you know, I think on the whole,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he's half as good as everyone makes

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Speaker 3: rather go by what scouts from other teams tell me

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Speaker 3: I mean, who's your short stuff that the season started today?

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Speaker 3: so I have no idea he's gonna play shortstop in

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Speaker 3: Griffin to be there. I guess the con would be

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Speaker 3: was hitting won sixty three weeks into the season. But

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Speaker 3: I think just in the little bit i've talked to

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Speaker 3: so he has such good metal makeup that I don't

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Speaker 4: He didn't do well and have to go back to

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Speaker 3: But I personally i'd like to see him in the

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Speaker 3: their best chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Me too, JP, I think too many sports teams underestimate

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Speaker 1: last decade, and I think Griffin starting at shortstop is

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Speaker 1: an educated risk that could make the team better. Like

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Speaker 1: you said, it's their best chance to win. The Pirates

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Speaker 3: And that's why like Griffin in there. It you know,

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Speaker 3: Even with the guys they have that are certainly going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny to say that, John, because I said

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Speaker 3: He was at Pirate Fest and he said that he's

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Speaker 3: It's make or break, either he becomes a superstar or

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Speaker 1: We're talking to John Prada here on one oh five

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Speaker 5: He struck out one hundred and seventy three times, which

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Speaker 3: I like Bran Lyle, and I always liked him, and

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Speaker 3: He's still on the forty man Robster and Kydle wildcard

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be shocked. JP.

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Speaker 5: Great stuff, great insight. We'll talk again real soon.

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Speaker 4: Sounds good, Mark, Thank you for having me, Bud.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna fight Gina Carano. Ronda's thirty nine, Karano's forty three.

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Speaker 1: It's great to welcome back to Pittsburgh and to my

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Speaker 1: alma mater, Dukane University. The new associate head coach of

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Speaker 1: the football Duke's the former head coach. He is Greg

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Speaker 1: getuso coach. This surprised me. You were consulting at Penn State,

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Speaker 1: where you played, But Ducane is kind of your football home,

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Speaker 1: isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Hey? Mark? How are you it is? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: love Dukenes, my daughter's they're my family, my wife, everybody's

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Speaker 2: really excited about this and getting back to Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 2: a joy for us. And my daughters tell everyone that

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Speaker 2: they were raised on Rooney Field, which is kind of true.

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Speaker 2: So we're excited about this, and just I'm thankful for

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Speaker 2: Jerry to give me the opportunity. I mean, he's He's

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Speaker 2: to be able to come home and to work for

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Speaker 2: someone like Jerry at a place like Ducane is awesome.

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Speaker 1: What's an unusual pairing? Because Jerry Schmidt, to whom you're referring,

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Speaker 1: replaced you as duking coach in two thousand and four

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Speaker 1: when you moved to Penn State.

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Speaker 5: Isn't this distant coach. What's it going to be like

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Speaker 5: to work with him?

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Speaker 2: It'll be good. I mean we know each other so well.

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Speaker 2: We started i mean high school coaching when we were

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Speaker 2: in our twenties. We traveled to Ohio State, to pitt

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Speaker 2: Penn State, we traveled all over the place that came

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Speaker 2: up learning together with it with one of his other assistants,

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Speaker 2: Mike Sillinov. So we know each other really well. I

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Speaker 2: think it's really a good fit. And I'm just like

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Speaker 2: I said, it's just a dream come true. And to

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Speaker 2: kind of go off into the sunset for me getting

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Speaker 2: closer retirement, to get out of the head coaching chair,

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Speaker 2: go to Penn State and then have this chance to

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Speaker 2: work with Jerry and to work with Dukane is. I

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Speaker 2: just couldn't have scripted this any better. I'm just really happy.

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Speaker 5: What's your take on college football in general?

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Speaker 1: I feel like NIL and the transfer portal in the

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Speaker 1: conference realignments, it's lost a bit of its character.

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Speaker 5: Maybe not at the DUCNE level though.

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Speaker 2: Well that's kind of the part of the reason why

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Speaker 2: this was something I really wanted to do, you know,

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Speaker 2: being in the head coach chair at all. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we we had a lot of success and in the

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Speaker 2: in my last couple of years, and and just have

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Speaker 2: your whole team. We lost our entire defense to to

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Speaker 2: to transfer portal. And you know, you can't blame the kids,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think that the coaches really started this.

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Speaker 2: You know, the coach has been leaving kids for decades

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Speaker 2: and the kids have been locked in. So I kind

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Speaker 2: of get it's beneficial in many ways for the kids.

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Speaker 2: But I will tell you this, mark you know, the

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Speaker 2: days of those relationships and that I have with my players,

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Speaker 2: I just don't see that continuing, especially at the higher levels.

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Speaker 2: I mean, kids are come and go, and it's a

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Speaker 2: money issue. Anytime money gets to become that the deciding

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Speaker 2: factor in something that's usually not something I want to

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Speaker 2: be associated with. And you know, that's coming back to Detain,

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Speaker 2: to get with the kids that actually actually care about

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Speaker 2: their academics and are actually doing their own academics, and

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Speaker 2: and you know they're they're not necessarily all going to

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Speaker 2: be have a shot at that end. I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a breath of fresh air for me

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Speaker 2: because I honestly, you look around SCS football, you look

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Speaker 2: at all the coaches that were in the most winning coaches.

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Speaker 2: There was an article came out a bunch of guys,

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Speaker 2: you know that Bobby Hawk at Montana. All these different

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Speaker 2: coaches have started to step away from it because it's

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Speaker 2: just not the same. It's a different environment. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to get back to Ducane. All the former

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Speaker 2: players I coached all those eleven years I was there

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Speaker 2: all been reaching out and it's just going to be

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun to be back in that environment

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Speaker 2: again for me and my family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just staying with that for one second. The way

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Speaker 1: college football's changed, by the way coach, I think the

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Speaker 1: kids should have got some freedom and some money, and

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Speaker 1: they got screwed for years, but now it's probably gone

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Speaker 1: too far.

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Speaker 5: In the other direction into the game's detriment, and.

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Speaker 1: I kind of see college football now as a competing

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Speaker 1: professional league to the NFL. When you have a guy

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Speaker 1: like Arts Manning staying at Texas another year because he's

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Speaker 1: getting seven points six point seven million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it is, it's really kind of I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't like it. I mean, that's one

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Speaker 2: of the reasons why I walked away from I was

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Speaker 2: ready to retire until this came up with Ducane. But

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Speaker 2: it's just not the environment I'm used to. You know,

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Speaker 2: two couple of fridays ago, the two thousand and three

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Speaker 2: team at Ducaine was inducted into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Fifty players showed up. All they did was hunt the

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Speaker 2: coaches the whole time, the whole weekend. It was. It

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Speaker 2: was just an incredible experience to see these guys that

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Speaker 2: have grown up and become successful and to spend a

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Speaker 2: couple of days with them. We were at a Penguin

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Speaker 2: game and it just was a blast and my wife

534
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Speaker 2: had to listen to it in the car for a

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Speaker 2: few hours. But it's just that closeness. I just don't

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Speaker 2: see how that can survive. I just don't see it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, people want to compare it to free

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Speaker 2: agency in the NFL, but free agency in the NFL

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Speaker 2: has rules and contracts and and things like that that

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Speaker 2: guide it. I don't think the nil stuff there's no

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Speaker 2: there's literally no rules anymore. I mean, coaches are calling

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Speaker 2: kids that are active on rosters and getting offers to

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Speaker 2: them through the grapevine so that kids will go into

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Speaker 2: the portal. And it's it's it needs control. It needs

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Speaker 2: some people to step up, you know. I know Nick

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Speaker 2: Daban and some of the coaches of that stature are

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Speaker 2: trying to rein it in, and I just don't think

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Speaker 2: it's sustainable. I mean, I don't know how a lot

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Speaker 2: of schools can compete in this environment.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to great Getuso, new associated head coach for

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Speaker 1: Duke Cane football here on one oh five ninety X.

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Speaker 1: Have there been nil when you played at Penn State?

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Speaker 1: How much do you think you would have gotten?

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Speaker 2: Well, starting defensive tackle with Penn State's probably making at

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Speaker 2: least over half a mill you know, up to depending

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Speaker 2: on you on your level of play, to a million

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Speaker 2: dollars easily, and that's going up. Freshmen are getting that

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Speaker 2: kind of money now to go to schools and play.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't even imagine a freshman trusting a

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Speaker 2: young freshman to have that much money at their disposal.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny, you know. I always told people when

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Speaker 2: I went to Penn State, I was really curious about

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Speaker 2: how it was going to be with the kids. And

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Speaker 2: the best way I could put it is, the majority

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Speaker 2: of the kids are still kids. They're still kids. They're

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Speaker 2: young young men, and they're they're learning how to handle things.

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Speaker 2: The only difference really between them is they drive. You

568
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Speaker 2: should see the parking lot that they drive the best cars.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's being BMW's and Mercedes and and all

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Speaker 2: these amazing cars in the parking lot. I mean I

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Speaker 2: was driving my grandfather's Zephyr when I went to when

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Speaker 2: I was at Penn State, you know, Mercury Zephyr. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's dramatically changed, and and I think it's hard.

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Speaker 2: It's really hard to manage that. You know, they're they're

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Speaker 2: not mature enough for that kind of money. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's it's scary, it's I don't know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I just hope, you know, if there was a time

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Speaker 2: to start winding down my career. I feel like this

579
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Speaker 2: is the right time for me because I really think

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Speaker 2: the nil and and the cheating and and all the

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Speaker 2: things that go on behind the scenes, you know, is

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Speaker 2: is tear for college football.

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Speaker 1: Now, I want to go back into your past, and

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Speaker 1: I've seen you play deck hockey, but this is even

585
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Speaker 1: crazier than that. The first time I saw you play,

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Speaker 1: you were a two hundred and forty five pounds full

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Speaker 1: back for Saint Masal playing against Knock on a muddy

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Speaker 1: field in the whipp Fild championship game. I think it

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Speaker 1: was nineteen eighty. Coach, it was medieval. You made Knock quit.

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Speaker 1: You just kept running them over. They just didn't want

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Speaker 1: to play anymore after about a quarter. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: much about that?

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Speaker 2: I remember that game. I remember it well. You know,

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Speaker 2: that was the days before you could be on turf

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Speaker 2: and being a big fullback. Remember now, we had a

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Speaker 2: pretty good offensive line with Jim Sweeney and Glenn Stranda,

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Speaker 2: no question, guys, no question that we we were good.

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Speaker 2: But you know Coach Donald, who just kept giving me

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Speaker 2: the ball that game. So that was my only one

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Speaker 2: hundred yard rushing game of the season was in that

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Speaker 2: championship game, and it was you know, it was nice

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Speaker 2: being in the mud, you know, so, yeah, I remember,

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Speaker 2: I remember a lot about it. Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 2: long time ago.

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Speaker 5: Well, coach, those were the days.

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Speaker 1: Tom Donahoe, your coach at seat Miselle became the Steelers

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Speaker 1: general manager.

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody could do that now.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it was a different time, there's no question,

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Speaker 2: you know. He We had a great coaching staff and

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Speaker 2: had so many amazing people around us, and we were

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Speaker 2: talented for a small Catholic school.

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Speaker 1: We're gile Richie Ingle indoor foot arena ball Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback, Yeah, rich Ingol. He went to South Carolina out

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Speaker 2: of high school. Nick Merrick was one of our receivers.

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Speaker 2: He went to Virginia out of high school. Glenn Streno,

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Speaker 2: Jim Sween, Denny Irmin, you get on the list of these.

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Speaker 2: We had a heck of a football team. So that

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Speaker 2: was why I was able to play fullback. And nice

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Speaker 2: of you to say two forty five. It was more

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Speaker 2: like two sixty five, but that was that.

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Speaker 5: Was the way in the program. I was a young

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Speaker 5: kid writing for the North Hills Free Press. Then what

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Speaker 5: do I know.

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Staying with that, where's high school football at in Western Pa?

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Speaker 1: Because it's still has, you know, that that credibility because

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Speaker 1: it's you know, with Biel football, City League football.

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Speaker 5: But I see smaller rosters and smaller kids.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not quite the same in the school I

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Speaker 1: don't think.

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Speaker 2: You know, Mark, I've always having one thing Age has

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Speaker 2: given me in this and being involved in you know,

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Speaker 2: I start. I was a high school head coach at

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Speaker 2: twenty six at Seatless South. So I've watched w PIL

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Speaker 2: for decades and decades and and I think it's cycles,

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Speaker 2: I really do. I think Western Pa football has had

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Speaker 2: bad times and it cycles through to some really good

639
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Speaker 2: times where there's a ton of talent. And I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just a matter of where you're at

641
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: and that that cycle. There's been tremendous obviously tremendous players

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Speaker 2: coming out, but there's just not the same depths of

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Speaker 2: talent that you see in you know, in Florida and

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Speaker 2: in the Southern States and in really New Jersey to

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Speaker 2: a degree, North Jersey's is still a hotbed. And but

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Speaker 2: I think foot I think high school football is still strong.

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Speaker 2: I still think there's a ton of great kids out there.

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Speaker 2: I think that I think that what we were talking

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Speaker 2: about earlier, I do really believe that that the NIL

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Speaker 2: was hurt kids coming out of high school. You know.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's you know.

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Speaker 1: They've become almost secondary and recruiting you want to get

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Speaker 1: them the second time through now when they've played college

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Speaker 1: ball somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I mean, it's it's it's they go

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Speaker 2: through they're they're having to make decisions like come to Dukane.

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Speaker 2: You know, you come to Dukane and you get an

658
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Speaker 2: opportunity to play early, and then you get that opportunity

659
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Speaker 2: to transfer. If you're you become a star, you know,

660
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: and and and that is that is part of the

661
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Speaker 2: fabric right now is kids are are have to make

662
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Speaker 2: some decisions on where they want to go. And you know,

663
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Speaker 2: when I was in twenty three at all, but we

664
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Speaker 2: went to the SCS semi finals and I had four

665
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Speaker 2: of my defensive players who were going to come back

666
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Speaker 2: the next year. Uh, they all went. They didn't just

667
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Speaker 2: go to like group of five schools. They you know,

668
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: one went to Arkansas, one went to UH Wisconsin, one

669
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Speaker 2: went to Michigan, one went to Miami, and then a

670
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: group of them went to the Group of fives, and

671
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Speaker 2: it's just it's hard to sustain your program in those circumstances.

672
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Speaker 2: And now what you're seeing is the FCS is the

673
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Speaker 2: Group of five is becoming the SCS now because half

674
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: the SCS is moving into the Group of five conferences.

675
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: So it's a it's a wild world. It's a readjustment,

676
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: and hopefully they're going to get control of that, but

677
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: it's it's just a I think we have lost what

678
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: college football has always been about is maturing, growing up.

679
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: It helps us in our futures and the jobs we

680
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: get and the people we become to play college football,

681
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: to play college sports, and I think it's being affected

682
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Speaker 2: in many ways. It's sad.

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Speaker 1: Well, like I said, it's a competing professional league at

684
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Speaker 1: this point. Now with your return to du Kane, the

685
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Speaker 1: Dukes have had a good program for many years now

686
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Speaker 1: and recently conference champions in twenty three and twenty four.

687
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Speaker 5: That's Division one FCS. What's the state of the Dukes

688
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 5: right now? It's good.

689
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Speaker 2: I think Jerry's done a great job there. I mean,

690
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Speaker 2: I think I think one it always starts with your university.

691
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: When you have a great university around you. It really

692
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: helps you draw kids at the strong academics you can recruit.

693
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Speaker 2: We could always in the beginning. It was hard when

694
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: we first transitioned at SCS, but you know, Ducaine's a

695
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: great destination for kids and Jerry's had great success. I

696
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: remember when I left, I told Jerry, this is the

697
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: keys to the Ferrari. You got to keep it rolling.

698
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: And I think he's done that, and he's grown the

699
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: program and they've moved into the NEC and they started

700
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Speaker 2: to give scholarships. So you know, he's done an amazing job.

701
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Speaker 2: And I think that that that's what breeds the success

702
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: you want. And now we're going to get out and

703
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: continue to do it. And I think, you know, there's

704
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: another step for Ducaine. I think conference championships are awesome.

705
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Speaker 2: We want to keep collecting those as much as possible,

706
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Speaker 2: but I think trying to make some noise in the playoff,

707
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: win a playoff game, do some things like that. You know,

708
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: who'd have thought thirty years ago, forty years ago, Mark

709
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: that Dukane would be playing pitt, you know, so it's

710
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: pretty cool. It's pretty cool where Ducane's grown.

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Speaker 1: To coach again, welcome back. We have to reinstead our

712
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: regular lunch all be it. Without the Pittsburgh State Company

713
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: and without the great Pat Japany, we would be we

714
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: would be remiss if we didn't bemoan his loss here?

715
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Who would berate us? I mean he really he was

716
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: abusive to us. It was I mean, we could have

717
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: had him arrested, but we were too good for that.

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00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 5: Am I right?

719
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: Oh? He literally is looking down right now and saying,

720
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: quit being a baby. Mark. Let's pick a large space

721
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 2: and let's get it going, coach.

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Speaker 5: I'll be in touch. Great stuff. We'll talk soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, Thank you.

724
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Speaker 1: That's the great Greg Attuso back at Duquane's associate head coach.

725
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: Some great insight from Greg on the state of college

726
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: football at every level. Uh, right now, it's time to

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Speaker 1: ask Mark anything eight three three four one two w

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Speaker 1: xdx eight three three four one two w xdx. Or

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Speaker 1: two three three three wxdx and get on quicker. Or

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Speaker 1: you can leave a talk back via the iHeartMedia app

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00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: by using the microphone icon. Also, I have big news

733
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: when I come back. It is Sweden three Latvia one

734
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: at the second intermission and late in that period. I

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: saw something happen I have never seen before.

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Speaker 5: One O five nine X.

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Speaker 7: Time now to send in your questions for Ask Mark Anything.

738
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Speaker 7: Use the talkback Mike on your free iHeartRadio app and

739
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 7: record your question for the super Genius.

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Speaker 4: It's The Woody Show weekend mornings at six.

741
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Speaker 2: Pretty cool.

742
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Speaker 5: It is a super cool The X.

743
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 6: At one oh five nine it maybe winner outside now

744
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Speaker 6: the super Genius Mark Madden.

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Speaker 5: Madden there.

746
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: Mark might say no right now, but in their hearts

747
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: they're saying yes, yes, oh yes.

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Speaker 6: The X at one O five nine.

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Speaker 5: Great to talk to. Greg Gattuso. Now it's time for

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Speaker 5: Ask Mark Anything.

751
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Speaker 1: his Sense Utilities Company Save Reliable natural gas Energy. That's

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Speaker 1: People's Hyphengas dot Com. I teased before the break that

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00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: I saw something at the end of the second period

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00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: in the game between Sweden and Latvia that I had

756
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: never seen before. And what I saw was Eric Carlson

757
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: of Sweden and this parish, Eric Carlson sprawling to block

758
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: a shot, hitting the deck to block a shot and

759
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: it saved a goal. Maybe carl will do that for

760
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Speaker 1: the Penguins if they make the playoffs, not before. I

761
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: don't reckon this plan for spensket thing. It's a the

762
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Speaker 1: tray crowns that it's a different type of deal for him,

763
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Speaker 1: and in a way, I guess you gotta respect that.

764
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: Eric Carlson hitting the deck to block a shot, you

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Speaker 1: gotta love it. Let's go to a talkback.

766
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Speaker 3: What's the best city in the US to go to

767
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: and what's the worst city to go to?

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Speaker 1: They both might be New York. There's so much stuff

769
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: to do in New York, but it's a crap hole.

770
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: It's just awful to walk the streets. But when you

771
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: get to where you're going, whether it be entertainer to eat,

772
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Speaker 1: it's marvelous.

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00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 5: I gotta get back there soon.

774
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Speaker 1: I'm doing my annual charity deck hockey tournament for the

775
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: Marie Lemue Foundation UH this weekend at Bridgeville Hockey Plex,

776
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: But after that I might try to get to New York,

777
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: maybe when the Penguins play the Rangers at the Garden

778
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: at the end of the month, although then i'd want

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Speaker 1: to get right back the next day for when they

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00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: host Vegas, So we'll see. I'm old tough to run

781
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: around like that. I do it enough Uh, let's go

782
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Speaker 1: to Connor. Connor, you're all with Mark.

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Speaker 2: Double am big stucks you? What up?

784
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Speaker 4: Maan? What hey?

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Speaker 2: Do you like punchki in honor of fat Tuesday? If so,

786
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: what's your favorite filling?

787
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 5: I don't know what punchki is.

788
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: It's like the deep fried donut with filling in it.

789
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 5: I've never had it, but obviously I love it. Thank

790
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 5: you for the call. I mean New Orleans type food.

791
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 5: I love gumbo. I wish there was a place.

792
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: There's one place in Pittsburgh that has gonebo I forget

793
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: the name.

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00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 5: I've never gone there.

795
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: There's a couple of great places in Vegas, the Place

796
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: at Orleans Hotel and Casino, in the place at Palaes

797
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: Station Hotel and Casino.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, I'm not sorry if you saw this, but

800
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Speaker 6: there's rumors that start at Flair is dating Rams receiver

801
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 6: Puka Dakua, and there are photos of them hanging out

802
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 6: with each other at the Daytona five hundred this past weekend.

803
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 6: Just curious what your thoughts are on that.

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00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: Uh, my source tells me that it's true. My source.

805
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 5: Let's go to a talk back.

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00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: As far as Robert Duval goes.

807
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Speaker 3: I think Augustus McCrae, some dove has to be better

808
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Speaker 3: than everything else.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it was better than everything else,

810
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: but he was great and lonesome dove. I've been thinking,

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00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, I really like him and gone in sixty seconds,

812
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: which isn't exactly you know, oscar worthy, but he was

813
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Speaker 1: just just so good as kind of like the old

814
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Speaker 1: mentor figure to Nicholas Cage's car thief coming out of retirement,

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00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: Godfather one and two. It's like so cliched, but how

816
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: can you deny his obvious greatness in those and Max Mercy,

817
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: the crooked sports writer in The Natural. The Natural was

818
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: such a flawed movie, not least the phony ending, but

819
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: the performances in it were just so good, whether Redford

820
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Speaker 1: or Basinger, who looked then at the top of her game,

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Speaker 1: Duval I forget who played the heel, the gambler who

822
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Speaker 1: tried to fix things, Wilford Brimley. Just just a great

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Speaker 1: movie at so many levels, not least Duval as Max Mercy.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to a talk back.

825
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing that you can get away with

826
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Speaker 1: on the.

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Speaker 3: Mark Madden Show now that you used to not.

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Speaker 4: Be able to get away with.

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Speaker 1: I think you have it mixed up, Brov. I used

830
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: to be able to get away with a lot more.

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00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: There are things I said back when that I'd get

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00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble now, not because of my employer,

833
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: but because just what the reaction would be with wokekenation,

834
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: What what dinks people have become, how they're heightened sensibilities

835
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: have just made us into a nation that's extremely pusillanimous.

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00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: So I don't think I'm getting away with anything now

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Speaker 1: that I couldn't then. In fact, like I said, quite

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Speaker 1: the opposite.

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Speaker 5: Okay, play is resumed.

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00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: Uh third period Sweden and Latvius Latvia end of that

841
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: period making a bit of a push after making a

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00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: three to one. Let's see how this period goes. Carl

843
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt badly blocking that shot. I see him

844
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: on the bench. So again, I want sweet because I

845
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: would really like to see Sweden versus the US tomorrow.

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00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 5: Oh Ricky rats going to the net but not getting

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00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 5: there in time. I would love to see Sweden in

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Speaker 5: the US tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And tom My producer pointed out during the commercial break,

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Speaker 1: if Germany would upset Slovaki tomorrow, then the US to

851
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: get to the gold medal game would have to beat

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Speaker 1: both Sweden and Finland.

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00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, we got some good games coming up.

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00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: Although, like I've said a couple of times, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: now the four nations more than I did because that

856
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: was all good games. Only four teams only, but all

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00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: good games. When the NHL does the World cuple Hockey

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00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, it needs to be USA, Canada, Finland, Sweden, Slovakia,

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00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Czech Russia.

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Speaker 5: And who the eighth nation would be. I don't know, maybe.

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00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: Maybe Switzerland, maybe Germany, but I don't want to go

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00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: any more than eight because that's where the good hockey is.

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00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: They did that one like your Europa team back in

864
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: that one World Cup of Hockey had the under twenty

865
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: three team from North America and the Europa team. Uh,

866
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: but that's not an international tournament. Then it's pickup hockey.

867
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: It got to be country versus country. Let's go real

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00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: quick to Joe.

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Speaker 2: Mark. Whatever happened to bb Jones, the.

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Speaker 1: Poorn girl she was on my show. I think she's

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00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: back in circulation, but she's back on Twitter. I can

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Speaker 1: tell you that for sure. Thank you for the call, Marty,

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Speaker 1: that just for for check you they play. They played

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Speaker 1: Canada tomorrow and that just who plays for for Czech said,

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Speaker 1: we let them win the first game because we know

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Speaker 1: because they played in around robin the group face in

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Speaker 1: Canada one handily. That just said we let them win

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Speaker 1: the first game because we knew there was no way

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Speaker 1: we could beat them twice in a row. That's pretty funny.