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Speaker 1: A major update to an exclusive story we first told

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee's war on cops.

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Speaker 1: Why is the city attorney refusing to defend them? We

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Speaker 1: Plus a police officer involved in one of those lawsuits

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Speaker 1: that city attorney, Evan Goik has refused to contest, speaks out.

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Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court It's approved redrawn congressional maps in California.

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Speaker 1: this in the four o'clock Our Vice President jd Vance

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Speaker 1: we first broke for you yesterday. The Milwaukee Police Association,

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Speaker 1: the union that represents rank and file police officers, sent

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Speaker 1: a scathing letter to City Attorney Evan Goigd. He is

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Speaker 1: a Democratic former member of the Wisconsin Assembly, got himself

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Speaker 1: The MPA's president, Alex Ayala, revealed in a letter that

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Speaker 1: judgments against the city. This has cost the city millions

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Speaker 1: upon millions upon millions of dollars, and now even more

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee police officers are speaking out about it. One officer

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Speaker 1: that he sent to this City Attorney's office. I am

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Speaker 1: writing to formally document and express my frustration regarding the

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Speaker 1: handling of a federal lawsuit in which I was named

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Speaker 1: as a defendant and represented by the City Attorney's office.

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Speaker 1: I am a detective employed by the city and was

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Speaker 1: assigned council through the City Attorney's office as required. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, my assigned attorney left their position. Since

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Speaker 1: I have since learned through some outside sources not the

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Speaker 1: a clear example of those very concerns. I am requesting

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Speaker 1: an immediate explanation as to a who was assigned as

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Speaker 1: have occurred. Sincerely, I have redacted the name a Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: police detective. Think about what's been alleged here. So little

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Speaker 1: the name of the case, which I am withholding to

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Speaker 1: protect the anonymity of my source, this is inexcusable. This

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Speaker 1: is a dereliction of duty. And whether it's through ranking, competence,

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Speaker 1: I will refer you to June one, twenty twenty. This

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Speaker 1: This is an article in the Wisconsin Examiner in which

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Speaker 1: even Goike, then a Democrat representative from Milwaukee, said, and

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Speaker 1: I quote he wanted to dismantle police departments. Here's the quote.

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Speaker 1: Democrat Rep. Evan Goik via social media also candidly addressed

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Speaker 1: invigorated movement will help America and Wisconsin reimagine its criminal

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Speaker 1: That wasn't a quarter century ago, that wasn't even a

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Speaker 1: This to me seems like part and parcel of an

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Speaker 1: Goike was on the front lines literally of the anti

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Speaker 1: The judge, was saying, uh yeah, it's sort of odd

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Speaker 1: in a direct effort to harm the Milwaukee Police Department reputationally,

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Speaker 1: or rather to make it so expensive for the City

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Speaker 1: seems to be the strategy for Goiki and his entire

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Speaker 1: office is very clear every single time that there is

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Speaker 1: a police brutality case. Ever, every time there is a

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Speaker 1: civil rights deprivation case, he's just not going to fight it,

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Speaker 1: and he's going to create the impression that the Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: Police Department is the worst band of civil rights violators

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Speaker 1: and brutal thugs in America. You tell me how his

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Speaker 1: he was trying to use his position. Remember, the City

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Speaker 1: Attorney's office is a position in which basically all you

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Speaker 1: are doing is representing the city in legal matters. That

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Speaker 1: all the places you can go, Honduras. It must be

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Speaker 1: beautiful this time of year. He's on vacation in Honduras.

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Speaker 1: So ola signor goliki poor favore? Answer why? Or you

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Speaker 1: are refusing to defend cops. Another Dan O'Donnell show exclusive,

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Speaker 1: This Ladies and Gentlemen is a wild one. Democrats in

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin legislature have all but given up on trying

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Speaker 1: to win school board seats in conservative school board districts,

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Speaker 1: So what are they trying to do? Rig things by

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Speaker 1: forcing a teacher onto every single school board in the state.

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Speaker 1: According to the co sponsorship memorandum sent out today from

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Speaker 1: Representatives De Santo, Fitzgerald, Clancy McCarville, Shean, Stroud, Udell, and

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Speaker 1: Senators Larson, Royce, Hesselbahn, and Spritzer, quote, this legislation.

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Speaker 2: Would require each school.

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Speaker 1: Board to add, alongside its regular elected members, one teacher

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Speaker 1: representative who is not a member and does not vote

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Speaker 1: at meetings, but is entitled to attend all school board meetings,

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Speaker 1: including those convened in closed session. The teacher representative must

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Speaker 1: be employed in a teaching role in the school district

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Speaker 1: and would be selected by a secret ballot voted on

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Speaker 1: by fellow employed teachers.

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Speaker 2: In the district.

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Speaker 1: The teacher representative would be entitled to all of the

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Speaker 1: same notices and privileges in attending meetings as elected board members,

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Speaker 1: but they are not a voting member. That would essentially

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Speaker 1: create a teacher's union spy on the school board. What

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Speaker 1: other purpose would that teacher serve? They can't vote, they

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Speaker 1: aren't actually elected by the people, But the teachers now

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Speaker 1: who do you suppose? Who do you suppose out of

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Speaker 1: a unionized teaching staff, those teachers are going to pick

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Speaker 1: probably the union shop steward, right, probably the teacher represented.

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Speaker 1: They're already very politically active. Now, what's the purpose of

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Speaker 1: body goes into closed session, it's because they're discussing something

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Speaker 1: that's sensitive. Maybe it's student discipline, maybe it's financial discrepancies

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Speaker 1: that could amount to criminal behavior, Maybe it's talking about

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Speaker 1: allegations of misconduct. The Democrats literally want to just put

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Speaker 1: someone who's going to immediately go back and report to

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Speaker 1: the teach teachers union, report to school administrators, report to

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Speaker 1: fellow teachers what the board is up to.

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Speaker 2: Now, the public doesn't get to vote on this.

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Speaker 1: Mind you, only other teachers get to vote on this.

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Speaker 1: This is utter insanity. Okay, here is what I am

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Speaker 1: asking for. Okay, we have a very strong group of

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Speaker 1: listeners here to the DAN O'Donnell showy. We call them

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Speaker 1: DAN Nation. They are very loyal, We love them very much.

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Speaker 1: I am going to petition my friends and allies who

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Speaker 1: currently control the Wisconsin legislature to add a member of

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Speaker 1: DAN Nation alongside regular elected members in the Assembly and

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Speaker 1: Senate one dan Nation represent I represent the biggest political

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Speaker 1: audience in the state of Wisconsin. It makes sense. These

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Speaker 1: are stakeholders. Nobody else, No other show comes close here.

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Speaker 1: We are on in multiple markets across the state. We

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Speaker 1: have the largest social media following. It only makes sense

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Speaker 1: we have the most engaged listeners. So when and we

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Speaker 1: don't just want one, we want two each, one for

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the Senate, one for Democrats in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: one for Republicans in the Assembly, one for Democrats in

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Speaker 1: the Assembly. And they would be required even when members

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Speaker 1: go into closed caucus, they will need to be there

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Speaker 1: because after all, after all, they are the most prominent

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Speaker 1: stakeholders the people. See how insane that sounds. What do

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Speaker 1: you suppose those people would do? They would immediately come

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Speaker 1: back and tell me every thing that they heard inclosed

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Speaker 1: session that it does not get more transparent than this,

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Speaker 1: does it. So if you are not willing Democrats to

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Speaker 1: allow a member of dam Nation, now now now now,

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Speaker 1: since we are such valued stakeholders of the state of

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin's body politic, these members of dam Nation, the dam

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Speaker 1: Nation representatives, will be selected by me and my various

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Speaker 1: producers and employees. Sound good, of course not so. How

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Speaker 1: exactly does this make any sense? We have an unelected

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Speaker 1: teacher who goes back after every closed sessions. Hey, Principal Johnson,

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Speaker 1: they're talking about firing you. They just mentioned it in

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Speaker 1: closed session. Set it before. I'll say again, this sort

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Speaker 1: of craziness coming from Dems in the legislature is why

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Speaker 1: Dems can never again be allowed to control the legislature.

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Speaker 1: We've got an update on the NBA trade deadline. Every

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Speaker 1: player in the NBA has now been traded. At least

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Speaker 1: it seems like that Anthony Davis just acquired by the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks in the single worst trade of all time

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Speaker 1: last year for Luka Doncic going to the Lakers, goes

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Speaker 1: to the Wizards in a massive blockbuster that sends Chris

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Speaker 1: Middleton to Dallas. Folks, those who thought the conspiracy theory

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Speaker 1: that the Dallas Mavericks who couldn't get a casino built

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Speaker 1: in a new arena because they couldn't get gambling legalized

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, and that they're trying to tank the organization

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Speaker 1: so that the NBA will approve a move to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the majority owners of the Dallas Mavericks,

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Speaker 1: the Adelson family, the late Sheldon Adelson's widow and his family.

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Speaker 1: That I think you're looking pretty vindicated right now. Cleveland

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Speaker 1: trades Darius Garland a star guard for James Harden, who

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Speaker 1: probably is already disgruntled. He hasn't even played a game

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and it's just it's wild. We don't know

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Speaker 1: where the dominoes are going to fall. With respect to Giannis.

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Speaker 1: We will keep you posted though. Right now though time

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Speaker 1: out to name the unhinged liberal of the day.

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Speaker 5: Wenzer Truff is dangerous because he's evil.

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Speaker 2: America.

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Speaker 1: Today's unhinged liberal of the day is New York Representative

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Speaker 1: Gregory Meets, who freaked the freak out on Treasury Secretary

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Speaker 1: Scott Vessant today during a committee hearing pretty much every

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Speaker 1: Democrat be clowned themselves, but Meets, well, he went above

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Speaker 1: and beyond.

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Speaker 2: I take that you not want to answer that. I

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Speaker 2: take that as a note for seven asking you to do.

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Speaker 6: Your responsibility as Secretary of the Treasure.

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Speaker 2: You do not make you. And he's the one that

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Speaker 2: went past your time, mister chairman. And he did not

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Speaker 2: answer my question, or he wouldn't want to have to.

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Speaker 4: Take he had six seconds left to try to answer

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Speaker 4: your questions, and.

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Speaker 2: It was a yes and no. It was a yes

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Speaker 2: and no answer I asked him.

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Speaker 6: Called the President, well, stop being his funky yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty much if if you get Democrats going, that's

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Speaker 1: what they will be reduced to. Their new one appears

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Speaker 1: to be boot liquor. They they love the phrase boot liquor.

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Speaker 1: Representative Meeks instead went with flunky, hilarious exchange between Treasury

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Speaker 1: Secretary Besant and Maxine Waters that is coming up in

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Speaker 1: the Daily Trump Date, updates on the Save Act, the

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Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court siding with California, and much much

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Speaker 1: more when The Dan O'Donnell Show returns. The shows only

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Speaker 1: a third of the way through, we have already covered

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Speaker 1: so much ground. Pair of big exclusive stories we heard

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Speaker 1: from a police officer, a detective who is alleging that

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Speaker 1: the City Attorney's office in Milwaukee not only refused to

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Speaker 1: represent him, but didn't even provide him with an attorney

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Speaker 1: when he was named as a defendant in a civil suit.

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Speaker 1: Another big exclusive, the Democrats of the Wisconsin State Legislature

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Speaker 1: are so circulating a bill right now. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: get co sponsors a bill that would force every single

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Speaker 1: school board in the state to have a teacher on

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Speaker 1: the board.

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Speaker 2: Not that you would vote.

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Speaker 1: For, that the teachers would vote for and the teacher

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Speaker 1: would be able to sit in on closed session meetings.

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Speaker 1: What other reason than to spy on what it is

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Speaker 1: the school board is doing and report back to school

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Speaker 1: administrators or fellow teachers union reps that sort of thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: we already have that, already covered a lot of ground

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Speaker 1: on the Dan O'Donnell show. That is nothing compared to

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Speaker 1: what we have got for you in the five o'clock hour.

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Speaker 1: I dare say, a bombshell report from our friends at

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Speaker 1: WMC Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce about just how badly Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: is lagging in terms of competitiveness over the past eight

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Speaker 1: years of Tony Evers administration. It is a damning look

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Speaker 1: at what eight years of a Democrat in the governor's

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Speaker 1: mansion will bring you. We will get you the exclusive

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Speaker 1: release of this. We'll talk to wmc's executive director and president,

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Speaker 1: Scott Manly. That's coming up in the five o'clock hour

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Speaker 1: right now. As we always do at the top of

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Speaker 1: the four o'clock hour, let's get you caught up on

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Speaker 1: what's been going on in Trump's Washington. It is the

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Speaker 1: daily Trump day.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna win so much you may even get tired

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Speaker 7: of winning.

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Speaker 2: Trump just keeps winning. It is a win for the administration.

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Speaker 6: It's also a big win for the United States.

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Speaker 2: We have to keep winning. We have to win more.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna win Moore.

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Speaker 1: The United States Supreme Court is going to allow California's

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Speaker 1: new jerrymanderd congressional map to stand before the midterm elections.

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Speaker 1: More on that means, What that means in just a second,

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Speaker 1: including a preview of a potentially much bigger redistricting case

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Speaker 1: and the next actual redistricting period in twenty thirty. The

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Speaker 1: White House is pushing the Senate to pass this Save Act,

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Speaker 1: which would mandate voter ID and federal elections nationwide. Vice

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Speaker 1: President JD. Evans discuss that on Meghan Kelly's podcast today.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into it in about fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Minutes or so.

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Speaker 1: The Trump administration dramatically reducing the number of federal agents

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Speaker 1: in Minneapolis after its secured a commitment to give ice

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Speaker 1: access to county jails borders our Tom Homan making the

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Speaker 1: announcement this morning.

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Speaker 4: We currently have an unprecedented number of counties communicating with

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Speaker 4: US now and allowing ICE to take custody of illego

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Speaker 4: amins before they hit the streets. Uncrecedented cooperation. Nowll say

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Speaker 4: it again, this is efficient. Requires only one or two

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Speaker 4: officers to assume custody of criminal alien target, rather than

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Speaker 4: eight or ten officers going into the and arrest in

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Speaker 4: that public safety threat.

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Speaker 1: President Trump discussed the decision in an interview with NBC

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Speaker 1: Nightly News anchor Tom Lanis this afternoon, seven hundred officers

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Speaker 1: leaving Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: Did that come from you?

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Speaker 7: Yes, it did, but it didn't come from me, because

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to do it. We have We are

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Speaker 7: waiting for them to release prisoners, give us the murderers

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Speaker 7: that they're holding, and all of the bad people, drug dealers,

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Speaker 7: all of the bad people.

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Speaker 1: Now, the President says he has learned something from Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Beaking of Minneapolis, what did you learn? I learned that.

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Speaker 7: Maybe we can use a little bit of a softer touch,

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Speaker 7: but you still have to be tough. He's a criminal.

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Speaker 7: We're dealing with really hard criminals. But look, I've called

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Speaker 7: the people, I've called the governor I've called the mayor,

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Speaker 7: spoke to him, had great conversations with him, and then

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Speaker 7: I see them ranting and raving out there literally as

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Speaker 7: wasn't made.

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Speaker 1: Democrats are trying to position this as a win. It

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Speaker 1: most certainly is not for them. Access to jails makes

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Speaker 1: deportations much more efficient. It allows ICE agents to conduct

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Speaker 1: far more of them, and the more efficient the deportations

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Speaker 1: without left wing craziness, the better things get for this country.

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Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett, testifying today before the House Financial

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Speaker 1: Services Committee, he had to deal with some pretty incredible

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Speaker 1: stupidity from Democrats like Maxine Waters.

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Speaker 2: We also want to mention, after our interview.

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Speaker 1: Out whoops, sorry about that hold on? Actually did I

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Speaker 1: skipped a little story in there? This is actually very

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Speaker 1: very cool. President Trump did ask Tom Lannis for Savannah

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Speaker 1: Guthrie's phone number, and he actually called her up. Her mother,

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Speaker 1: Nancy Guthrie, remains missing in one of the more bizarre

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Speaker 1: potential kidnapping cases I think I have ever heard.

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Speaker 2: Here's lone west to mention.

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Speaker 1: After our interview off camera, the President called Savannah Guthrie

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Speaker 1: and spoke to her, offering words of support for her.

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Speaker 2: And her family as they search for their mother.

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Speaker 1: It is just unbelievably heartbreaking for Savannah Guthrie. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: did hear yesterday that TMZ reportedly got a ransom, note

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Speaker 1: that it is forwarded onto the FBI. I just I

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Speaker 1: feel very guilty about spreading rumors about you know what

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Speaker 1: this looks like, what this certainly appears to be, at

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Speaker 1: least to me.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, maybe I will get into that.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't want to speculate, but I think

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Speaker 1: this points in one direction, and I think it points

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Speaker 1: in a direction that will make a lot of sense

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Speaker 1: once the full story is out there. All right, we

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Speaker 1: want to hear some stupidity from Maxine Waters here she

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Speaker 1: is with Scott Bessent Durga's testimony.

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Speaker 2: Today and million immigrants. Can you just got a housing

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Speaker 2: housing stock of working Americans? And can you maintain some

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Speaker 2: level life as time as expressed.

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Speaker 1: She cannot maintain some level of dignity, mister secretary, that

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Speaker 1: would imply that she had a baseline level of dignity.

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Speaker 1: Best a testify today, growth rates are incredibly strong, despite

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Speaker 1: Democrats shutting down the government for the longest period of

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Speaker 1: time ever. This past fully also answered Democrat Rep. Richie

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Speaker 1: Torres on the question of terrors.

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Speaker 4: Are you willing to commit to no longer imposing tariffs

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Speaker 4: on any product that has neither a domestic substitute nor

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Speaker 4: a national security rational.

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Speaker 2: That would be the definition of foolish in a negotiation.

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Speaker 1: Definition of foolish, you can probably put a Democrat Rep.

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Speaker 1: From today's hearing in the picture next to the dictionary

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Speaker 1: entry cold hard cash contest word this hour happy, Happy Happy.

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Speaker 1: You have got until four fifty five to go to

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Speaker 1: our website. Enter the keyword happy to enter the contest.

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Speaker 1: If your entry is picked at random, you will be

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Speaker 1: happy with one thousand dollars in your account. All right now,

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Speaker 1: I feel guilty for doing this tease. It is my

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Speaker 1: suspicion that a reason that Savannah Guthrie herself has not

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Speaker 1: appeared on television to beg for any information regarding her

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Speaker 1: mother's whereabouts is that she was either kidnapped or she

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Speaker 1: was killed, and now the person who killed her is

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Speaker 1: trying to make it look like a kidnapping by somebody

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Speaker 1: that she knows. I am told that law enforcement officials

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Speaker 1: consider Guthrie's brother in law, who is married to her sister,

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Speaker 1: to be a prime suspect in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie.

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Speaker 1: Because he and Savannah's sister were the last people to

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Speaker 1: see Nancy alive, that person is always going to be

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Speaker 1: the primary suspect. But the fact that there were two

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Speaker 1: different ring, doorbell or nest cameras from the home that

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Speaker 1: were removed tells me that somebody knew where those cameras

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Speaker 1: were new to remove them so they wouldn't capture any

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Speaker 1: evidence that would show that there was a trail of

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Speaker 1: blood apparently leading out the door. This suggests to me

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Speaker 1: that potentially there was some sort of domestic related fight

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Speaker 1: and that maybe the brother in law or whomever it was,

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Speaker 1: lashed out in anger killed her without maybe meaning to,

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Speaker 1: you know, struck her she falls something like that, and

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Speaker 1: then is attempting to make it look like it's a kidnapping.

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Speaker 1: That is just I could be completely wrong, but this

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Speaker 1: is just the sense I'm getting. The sheer lack of

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Speaker 1: information that's coming out there, and the fact that we

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Speaker 1: have not yet heard from the brother in law or

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Speaker 1: the sister. We've not yet to my knowledge, seen them

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Speaker 1: on camera, even though they live in Tucson, apparently with

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Speaker 1: the mother. It just none of this makes any sense,

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Speaker 1: And when that happens, it usually makes perfect sense in

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Speaker 1: hindsight and saying, oh, okay, this was Look, the sad

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Speaker 1: reality is that the overwhelming majority, it's something like eighty

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Speaker 1: to ninety percent of women who are killed in this

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Speaker 1: country are killed by a domestic partner or somebody that

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Speaker 1: they know. In fact, murder generally is typically by someone

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Speaker 1: known to the suspect, crimes of passion, that sort of thing,

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Speaker 1: domestic abuse, domestic arguments. I'm not saying I know that's

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Speaker 1: what happened. It just it's striking to be folks. I've

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Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time. I've gotten very

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Speaker 1: good at reading between the lines of what law enforcement

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Speaker 1: officers say, picking up on what they don't say. I

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Speaker 1: could be completely wrong, and I'm not saying that this

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Speaker 1: is happening or this happened. This is just sort of

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Speaker 1: my take on this. All right, big order from the

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Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court today, it was brief. It was unsigned,

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Speaker 1: denying an emergency request from Republicans in California with an

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Speaker 1: amicus brief filed by the Trump Administration's Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: to try to block California's new jerrymandered map. You might

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Speaker 1: remember that as soon as Texas said, hey, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: we have two racially jerrymander districts in the Houston area.

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Speaker 1: We are going to redraw those maps in anticipation of

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court ruling in June that racially jerrymander districts

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Speaker 1: are completely unconstitutional. As a result of that, and a

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Speaker 1: couple of months ago, the Supreme Court upheld Texas's redistrict,

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Speaker 1: California said explicitly, I mean why I call California is

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Speaker 1: a jerrymanderin not Texas's. It's because Texas said, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: going to do this because we believe that these maps

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Speaker 1: were unconstitutionally drawn. We're going to redistrict. California said, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: Texas is going to redistrict. We're just going to jerrymander

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Speaker 1: the hell out of our map to make it as

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Speaker 1: democrat leaning as possible. They explicitly said, we are going

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Speaker 1: to jerrymander for political advantage. Now, what this says is

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Speaker 1: that the United States Supreme Court, as it has almost

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Speaker 1: always said, political disputes over jerrymandering claims and congressional maps

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Speaker 1: are the purview of state legislatures. They are not for

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Speaker 1: the court to decide. Now, there is, as I said,

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Speaker 1: a big exception to this, and that is Louisiana versus

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Speaker 1: calais commonly known as the VR lawsuit or the Voting

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Speaker 1: Rights Amendment lawsuit. It directly challenges whether Section two of

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Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act I believe I said Voting Rights

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Speaker 1: Amendment Voting Rights Act. In the context of redistricting, the

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Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act Section two required that there be a

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Speaker 1: set number of majority Black district or majority Hispanic districts

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Speaker 1: majority minority districts in order to overcome the racism that

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Speaker 1: was prevalent in the Democrat controlled South at the time

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Speaker 1: in the Civil Rights era, and to overcome all of

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Speaker 1: the past racial jerrymandering that Democrats across the South engaged

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Speaker 1: in to try to keep black Republican voters in the

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Speaker 1: post Slavery days from flocking to this new party called

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Speaker 1: the GOP. They jerrymandered districts so that black people would

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Speaker 1: never have a majority, would never be able to elect

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Speaker 1: black candidates. As a result of that, the Voting Rights

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Speaker 1: Act Section two said, all right, we will allow majority

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Speaker 1: black districts in order to write those old historical wrongs

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Speaker 1: well Conservatives have long argued two wrongs don't make right,

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Speaker 1: and even if you comply with the VRA, in order

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Speaker 1: to do so, you need to violate the Fourteenth Amendment

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Speaker 1: equal protection under the law. The Fourteenth Amendment makes it

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Speaker 1: abundantly clear that you are not allowed to racially gerrymander.

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Speaker 1: When race is the predominant factor in how a district

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Speaker 1: is drawn, it's unconstitutional. The Court has repeatedly upheld this,

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Speaker 1: except with respect to majority minority districts. The practical impact

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Speaker 1: of this, and it's my very strong suspicion that Section

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Speaker 1: two is going to be limited. It's not going to

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Speaker 1: be ruled unconstitutional on its face because you're probably not

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Speaker 1: going to get five justices to onto that. Although I

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Speaker 1: know Justice Clarence Thomas and probably Alito are itching to

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Speaker 1: You've still got to contend with Amy Cony Barrett and

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Speaker 1: John Roberts, the squish wing of the conservative faction. Gorsich,

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Speaker 1: I can't get a good read on. You do have

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Speaker 1: six votes, but you're going to have six votes maybe

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Speaker 1: to come to a compromise in order to not do

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Speaker 1: away with race based redistricting if in fact, there is

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Speaker 1: a ruling that says you are not allowed to have

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Speaker 1: majority black districts or majority Hispanic districts, or any district

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Speaker 1: that is drawn specifically on the basis of race. Democrats

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Speaker 1: would instantly lose, probably about fifteen seats somewhere in their states,

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Speaker 1: would have to redraw their maps. They probably wouldn't do

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Speaker 1: so by the deadline for having a map ahead of

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Speaker 1: the November elections, but certainly by twenty twenty eight you

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Speaker 1: would see Democrat representation just fall precipitously. Because the South

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Speaker 1: is very heavily Republican, except in highly concentrated areas where

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Speaker 1: many of these congressional districts have been drawn specifically to

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Speaker 1: carve out black or Democrat representation. This would be a

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Speaker 1: major blow. What does it potentially mean for Wisconsin. Don't

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Speaker 1: know if you remember, but we do have an effort

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Speaker 1: to jerrymannder congressional maps right now.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that next. You're on the Dan o'donald show.

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Speaker 2: Classical Conservatism, contemporary style Dan o'donald show will be right back.

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Speaker 1: Truly scared about something threatening their grip on power, they

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Speaker 1: start crying racism. Of course, Senate Minority Leader Chuck sh

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Speaker 1: On efforts to pass citizenship requirements for voting.

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Speaker 6: We've got to get this done, and we've got to

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Speaker 6: get it done very quickly. The Save Act is an abomination.

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Speaker 6: It's Jim Crow two point zero across the country. We

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Speaker 6: are going to do everything we can.

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Speaker 2: To stop it.

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Speaker 1: Jim Crow two point zho. We will get into the

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Speaker 1: Save Act and why it absolutely needs to be passed,

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Speaker 1: coming up in about ten minutes. The Wisconsin Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: is currently working on gerrymandering the state's congressional map. The

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Speaker 1: only problem they are doing so in a patently unconstitutional way.

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Speaker 2: Late last year, the court's for liberals, of.

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Speaker 1: Course, decided to not actually take up congressional redistricting themselves.

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Speaker 1: There are two lawsuits, one that challenges the political makeup

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Speaker 1: of the map, one that challenges the congressional map on

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Speaker 1: the basis of.

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Speaker 2: Competitiveness.

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Speaker 1: The court is deathly afraid of the US Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: again stepping in and just embarrassing them, as they did

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Speaker 1: on a First Amendment case ruling unanimously against the four

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Speaker 1: hacks in black robes that dare to call themselves justices

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Speaker 1: that currently.

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Speaker 2: Control the Court.

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Speaker 1: When I say these women know nothing about constitutional law,

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Speaker 1: this is the decision that you can point to and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell's actually right. When even Sonia Sota mayor at

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Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court viciously smacks down the four leftists

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Speaker 1: on the state Supreme Court, you know it's bad. So

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Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court already ruled that Wisconsin's congressional map

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Speaker 1: is constitutional. They decline to hear or a challenge that

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Speaker 1: went all the way up to the US Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: over Wiscont this exact same.

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Speaker 2: Map, this exact one.

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Speaker 1: As soon as Wisconsin flipped the Supreme Court to liberal,

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Speaker 1: there were more challenges. Two more challenges were brought as

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Speaker 1: soon as Susan Crawford won the election. Remember she was

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Speaker 1: promising liberals in a secret meeting right at the outset

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Speaker 1: of her campaign last year that this would be a

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Speaker 1: chance to quote put two more seats into play in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Of course, once she got on the court,

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Speaker 1: the court immediately takes up the redistricting lawsuits. But it scared,

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Speaker 1: you see, of being embarrassed by the US Supreme Court again,

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Speaker 1: so it actually delegated the work of actually looking at

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Speaker 1: the maps to two sets of three Circuit Court judges, liberals,

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Speaker 1: all Democrat donors, appointees. One's a former county Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: chair person. This is a direct violation of Article seven,

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Speaker 1: section three of the Wisconsin Constitution. Because the Wisconsin Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court already ruled on these exact maps. Circuit court judges

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Speaker 1: would effectively be overruling the court of last resort in

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Speaker 1: the state. Because Article seven, section three says the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court has superintending an administrative authority over all courts in

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Speaker 1: the state, as well as appellate jurisdiction over them, it

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Speaker 1: is a constitutional impossibility for a circuit court judge to

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Speaker 1: overrule the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Allowing a circuit court panel

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Speaker 1: to grant appellate relief over the Wisconsin Supreme Court and

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Speaker 1: in effect, over the Supreme Court of the United States,

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Speaker 1: which remember also gave its stamp of approval to this map,

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Speaker 1: would effectively require or vacate. It would effectively require an

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Speaker 1: overturning or vacating of the prior final judgment. Only the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court has the authority to do that. Circuit court

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Speaker 1: judges don't have the authority to do that. Once again,

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Speaker 1: when I say that these justices are not at all bright,

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Speaker 1: this is it. This also creates a potential federal issue,

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Speaker 1: wherein if, as expected, these panels of Circuit Court judges say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we absolutely do need to jerry Mander Derek van Orden

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Speaker 1: and Brian Style right out of their seats. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there is no indication that this is going to be

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Speaker 1: done in time for these new maps to take effect

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Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty six mid terms. If there's one

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Speaker 1: thing that's saving this state, it's the fact that the

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Speaker 1: new liberal majority on the Supreme Court is historically lazy.

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Speaker 1: They take up almost no cases, and they take forever

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Speaker 1: on their rulings. It's almost laughable. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: rule on this before the April spring election. They don't

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Speaker 1: want to cost Chrissy Taylor her race against Maria Lazar,

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Speaker 1: So you're not going to get a ruling striking down

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Speaker 1: Act ten. You're probably not going to get a ruling

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Speaker 1: striking down Act ten before the governor's race, because then

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Speaker 1: that would be a huge boost to the Republican Tom Tiffany.

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Speaker 1: What you're going to see is the Court attempt to

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Speaker 1: do these highly politicized, very obvious Democrat gift rulings as

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Speaker 1: far away from them having to answer electorally for it.

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Speaker 2: As possible.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's expected that a ruling on the Jerry

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Speaker 1: Meani case is probably not going to happen until twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty seven. So Brian Style and Derek van Orden are

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Speaker 1: almost certainly going to run over these new maps on

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Speaker 1: the existing map. I should say they won't have to

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Speaker 1: worry about a Jerrymander as Republicans in the legislature will

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Speaker 1: have to, because remember that jerry Mander was done in

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Speaker 1: December of twenty twenty three, and Republicans were forced, essentially

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Speaker 1: at rhetorical gunpoint to go along with Governor Ever's maps.

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Speaker 1: It immediately cost them a whole ton of seats in

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Speaker 1: the Assembly. I believe it was ten seats in the Assembly,

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Speaker 1: something like four in the State Senate. And Democrats now

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Speaker 1: are standing on the precipice of a legislative majority simply

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Speaker 1: because they were able to win enough Supreme Court seats,

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Speaker 1: get those hacks in black robes on the fellosure and

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Speaker 1: then get them to do exactly what they wanted.

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Speaker 2: Why did I think that was going to.

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Speaker 1: Be some music use or Doug doesn't look like we

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Speaker 1: have an outro bumper in there. Let's just go to break.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan O'Donnell show back after this,

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Speaker 1: and I mean that legitimately, he proved once again he

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Speaker 1: just may be the dumbest Democrat in the history of

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin politics. He quote tweeted a tweet announcing the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court's decision on the California jerry mandering by saying, quote,

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Speaker 1: it's time to unrig Wisconsin's maps. In March of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two, the same United States Supreme Court that Mandela

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Speaker 1: cited as the ultimate arbiter on what maps rig what

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Speaker 1: maps are not upheld Wisconsin's congressional maps. Those maps, the

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Speaker 1: ones that Mandela says are rigged, were drawn by Tony

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Speaker 1: Evers while Mandela himself was lieutenant governor. He's not seriously

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Speaker 1: this dumb and or dishonest?

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Speaker 2: Is he? Wait, don't answer that because it's kind of

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Speaker 2: a Yes.

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Speaker 1: The latest thing that Democrats are calling Jim Crow two

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Speaker 1: point zero, to quote Chuck Schumer, the Senate Minority leader, is.

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Speaker 2: The Save Act.

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Speaker 1: All it would do would be mandate voter ID nationwide,

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Speaker 1: and it would require citizenship to be proven in person.

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Speaker 2: That's it, It's all do.

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Speaker 1: It would require proof of citizenship at registration states couldn't

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Speaker 1: accept or process any application for a new voter registration

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Speaker 1: or update for any federal election unless the applicant can

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Speaker 1: prove in person that he or she.

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Speaker 2: Is a US citizen.

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Speaker 1: Bill has passed the House in prior sessions, it has

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Speaker 1: yet to pass the Senate because of the filibuster. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get into a discussion of why we absolutely

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Speaker 1: do need to go back to the filibuster as originally intended,

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Speaker 1: or at the very least to go back to the

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Speaker 1: one track system of legislation that we had before the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies in order to actually get legislation passed. This

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Speaker 1: is a position that I have been remarkably consistent on.

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Speaker 1: I am actually a supporter of the filibuster, but I

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Speaker 1: believe there should actually be standing or talking filibusters as

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Speaker 1: there were until nineteen seventeen. For the majority of time

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Speaker 1: in this country's history, you were actually required to filibuster,

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Speaker 1: not just say I'm good at filibuster and then you

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Speaker 1: would need sixty votes. Democrats are claiming that somehow, somehow

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Speaker 1: the Save Act is unconstitutional, that Congress has no role

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Speaker 1: in elections. Well, someone should tell that to Article one,

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Speaker 1: Section four of the Constitution, known as the Election Clause.

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Speaker 1: The times, places, and manner of holding elections for senators

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Speaker 1: and representatives shall be prescribed by each state by the

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Speaker 1: legislature thereof. But the Congress may at any time, by

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Speaker 1: law make or alter such regulars, except as to the

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Speaker 1: places of choosing senators.

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Speaker 2: As grants Congress.

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Speaker 1: Broad overriding power to regulate exactly how federal elections are run.

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Speaker 1: States do not have their own unique total autonomy to

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Speaker 1: run federal elections, because this is a power expressly delegated

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Speaker 1: by the Constitution to the United States Congress. Congress may

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Speaker 1: at any time, by law make or alter such regulations.

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Speaker 1: Congress therefore has a power that is over the states

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Speaker 1: in the time, place, and manner of choosing elections, of

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Speaker 1: choosing representatives. In fact, Congress has used this authority a

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Speaker 1: couple of times in the last thirty years. National Voter

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Speaker 1: Registration Act JAVA, the Motor Voter Act two thousand and two.

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Speaker 1: What was National Voting Rights or Voter Registration Act that

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Speaker 1: was ninety three. I believe, by the way, Congress has

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Speaker 1: already exercised this, specifically with respect to non citizens voting.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen US Code Section six' eleven makes it a crime

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Speaker 1: for a non citizen to vote in a federal election.

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Speaker 1: The Save Act just strengthens the enforcement of that existing

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Speaker 1: prohibition on non citizen voting. Right now, you just have

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Speaker 1: to attest that, yes, I'm a citizen of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think it was weird that we give drivers'

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Speaker 1: licenses in this state to people who have a temporary

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Speaker 1: status or are quote non domiciled that look exactly like

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Speaker 1: driver's licenses that we give to citizens.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that weird?

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Speaker 1: Well, what if you needed to prove in order to

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Speaker 1: get on the voter rolls to begin with, to register

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Speaker 1: to vote, that you are actually a citizen. You provide

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Speaker 1: a birth certificate, You provide a real ID. You need

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Speaker 1: a real ID to get on a plane. There's a

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Speaker 1: grace period where you can pay something like forty five

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01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: fifty dollars if you don't yet have real ID. You

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01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: need real ID. I had to pick up a prescription

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Speaker 1: for my son. I had to show my ID. I

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01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: had to open an account at the bank today. By

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Speaker 1: the way, shout out to my bank. No, I'm not

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01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: going to tell you where it is. Ryan, my personal banker,

994
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: was incredibly helpful. Always love going to my local bank.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should work on a sponsorship deal. I really

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01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: do believe it's a Wisconsin based bank, a great, great bank,

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: neighborhood bank. I had to show an ID, they had

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Speaker 1: to scan the damned ID. But you're telling me to

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Speaker 1: vote to choose our next congressional representatives or senator or

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Speaker 1: president or governor. I don't need to show a photo

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Speaker 1: ID now. I do because in Wisconsin, thankfully, over the insane,

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Speaker 1: unhinged objections of Democrats under Governor Walker, with a Republican legislature,

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Speaker 1: we absolutely did pass a voter ID. Now, though people

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Speaker 1: like US Senator Chris Murphy say the requirement of citizenship

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01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: and to prove who you are across the country would

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Speaker 1: mean that Republicans are going to steal elections.

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Speaker 8: The Save Act in and of itself is a terrible

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 8: piece of legislation, but probably doesn't give the president the

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Speaker 8: power he wants to come in and take over an election.

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Speaker 8: But I do think the President is going to put

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Speaker 8: the screws to John Thune and his allies in the

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Speaker 8: Senate because his options to steal the election are going

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01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 8: to continue to narrow, and so he is likely to

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01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 8: want a piece of legislation that may not be constitutional,

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Speaker 8: but at least tests the question to the Supreme Court

1016
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Speaker 8: of whether there's a circumstances where he can come in

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Speaker 8: and take over a state election.

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Speaker 1: Take over a state election, folks, they are counting on

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01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: you never ever, ever, listening to a show like this,

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Speaker 1: ever take over an election. Does Congress Now? If I

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Speaker 1: were the host Chris Murphy was on, I believe it

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Speaker 1: was the Chris Hayes Show on MS now or MS

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Speaker 1: then or whatever they're calling it now, never challenged on this,

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Speaker 1: I would literally read to him the elections clause. Now,

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Speaker 1: I say, are you familiar with this? It's right there

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01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: in Article one. Congress may at any time, by law

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Speaker 1: make or alter such regulations. That's not coming in and

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01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: taking over elections. That is a specifically delegated power by

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Speaker 1: the Constitution of the United States. They're counting on you

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Speaker 1: never ever hearing the truth about this from somebody like me. This, incidentally,

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Speaker 1: is also why someone who has also been chirping about

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Speaker 1: the need to unrig Wisconsin's maps, Madison's disgrace of a Congressman,

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Speaker 1: Mark po Can I have been urged by several listeners

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Speaker 1: to start calling him Mark pokan't because I have challenged

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01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: him multiple times to come on this radio show, will

1036
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: do it debate style? How can I entice him to?

1037
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Speaker 1: I challenge him five thousand bucks to his favorite charity

1038
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: if he comes on and proves what he's been saying

1039
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Speaker 1: about Donald Trump and the Epstein files. He refused to

1040
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Speaker 1: call that. I think, what do we think? Dinner at

1041
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: an all you can eat buffet. I've seen his last

1042
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: couple of television appearances. I can tell you that Mark

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01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: Pokant likes his all you can eat buffet. He'll never

1044
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: come on a show like this because he never has

1045
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: to actually answer for the insanity of his beliefs by

1046
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Speaker 1: somebody who actually knows the constitution, the laws of this

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Speaker 1: country and is actually well versed on the facts. They

1048
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: just count on saying things that they don't believe you're

1049
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: going to have the ammunition to counter, and certainly their

1050
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: followers aren't going to be able to counter or think

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Speaker 1: twice about, think logically.

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Speaker 2: Pay yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: This is Jim Crow two point zero yeah yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know is black people they can't get photo IDs. Harry Enton, CNN.

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Speaker 1: What does the polling say about what black people in

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Speaker 1: this country.

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Speaker 2: Think about photo ID.

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Speaker 9: Take a look your favorite photo ID to volk. Eighty

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Speaker 9: five percent of white people favorite, eighty two percent of

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Speaker 9: Latino seventy six percent of Black American's favorite. Bottom line

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Speaker 9: is this voter ID is not controversial in this country.

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Speaker 9: A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country.

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Speaker 9: It is not controversial by party, and it is not

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Speaker 9: controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with

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Speaker 9: Nicki Minaj that in fact, you should have a photo

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Speaker 9: ID to be able to vote.

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Speaker 1: It's only controversial amongst the liars. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show. It is a tour de force of

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Speaker 1: truth that it is time now to name today's unsung

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Speaker 1: hero of the data. Today's unsung hero comes to us

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Speaker 1: via email and a loyal listener named Kyle Hi DoD.

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Speaker 1: I'm a longtime listener and frequent caller over the years.

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Speaker 1: My whole family tunes into eleven thirty and I'm proud

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Speaker 1: to say I'm a true belling baby through and through.

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Speaker 1: If you don't already have a Hero of the Day

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Speaker 1: lined up, I'd like to nominate my grandpa, Wayne Jessop,

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Speaker 1: who passed away peacefully this morning at the incredible age

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Speaker 1: of one hundred and one. He served in the Navy

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Speaker 1: during World War Two and went on to live the

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Speaker 1: American dream in every sense. A devoted husband and believer

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Speaker 1: in Christ, he raised a family grounded in faith that

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Speaker 1: is carried through multiple generations. He was the definition of stoic,

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Speaker 1: showing me quiet strength as a child. However, he could

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01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: still drop a perfectly timed, witty one liner out of

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01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: nowhere that had the whole room cracking up. He would

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01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: always sit in a corner chair, dry martini in hand,

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01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: delivering drier humor with impeccable timing. He brought so much

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01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: laughter and love to our family right up to the end.

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Speaker 1: He truly was one of a kind. Thanks for considering him.

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Speaker 1: If he heard his name on the radio, he would

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Speaker 1: have gotten a kick out of it. That comes from Kyle.

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Speaker 1: My deepest condolence is Kyle, to you and your entire

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Speaker 1: family on your loss.

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Speaker 2: Rampa.

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Speaker 1: Wayne sounded like an incredible man. And Wayne Jessup who

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Speaker 1: passed away this morning, a Navy veteran in World War Two,

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Speaker 1: a great man, your unsung hero of the day. That's

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01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: just an incredible, incredible story. And this folks is why

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Speaker 1: we started the Unsung Hero of the Day. It's for

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Speaker 1: people just like this Wayne Jessup, who just quietly served

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01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 1: his country, served his family, served his community. These are

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Speaker 1: the sorts of people that I want to highlight, people

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01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: in our listening area, people in our audience who don't

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01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: dominate the headlines, but do things that just go above

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01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: and beyond the call of duty. And if you have

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Speaker 1: someone you would like to nominate, easiest way to do

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01:15:55,479 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: so is via email d d at iHeart media dot com.

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01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: Again DoD at iHeartMedia dot com. Kyle actually emailed I

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01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: want to say, maybe five minutes before the show started

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01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: and said, hey, if you don't have somebody else lined up,

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01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: I actually did. It was a thirteen year old kid.

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01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: I might use this for tomorrow. There's an incredible story

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01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 1: of survival thirteen year old kid in Australia maybe it

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01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: was New Zealand who was swept out to see along

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01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: with his younger brother and mother while they were paddleboarding,

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01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: and he actually had to swim two and a half

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01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: miles to shore to alert the coastguard and his mom

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: and brother were rescued. Very very cool. But these are

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01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 1: the sorts of stories that I want to share. So

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Speaker 1: if you have one, if you have someone in your life,

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01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: if you have someone maybe you heard about in the community.

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01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: Let me know about him.

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Speaker 1: DoD at iHeartMedia dot com. We should probably work on

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01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: a prize for being the uns hero of the day,

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01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: maybe a little something, a show merch or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Coming up in the five o'clock hour, a shocking news

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01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: study by Wisconsin Manufacturers in Commerce WMC about Wisconsin's lack

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Speaker 1: of competitiveness under Tony Evers. You won't want to miss this,

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01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: It's coming up after the news. There's no doubt that

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01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: we live in an increasingly competitive global environment and also

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01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: an increasingly competitive environment between and among states here in

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Speaker 1: the United States. How does Wisconsin stack up over the

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01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: last eight years? Not well, we hear at the Dan

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Speaker 1: O'Donnell Show. We'll present to you in just a minute

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Speaker 1: exclusively the results of a brand new study from Wisconsin

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01:17:53,720 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: Manufacturers in Commerce WMC, which paints a decidedly unflattering picture

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: of the state's competitiveness under Governor Tony Ebers over the

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01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: past eight years. Before we get to that, though, some

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01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: of the stories that we are following this hour here

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01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: on the Dan O'Donnell show, United States Supreme Court giving

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01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 1: Democrats a boost in California, just as they did with

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01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: Texas some months back, refusing to overturn California's attempt at

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01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: mid district or mid decade redistricting. Here at home, the

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01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Police Association is still calling for a response. It's

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01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: an exclusive story that we broke here on the Dan

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01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 1: O'Donnell Show from the City Attorney's office. After now a

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: Milwaukee police detective has come forward and said he didn't

1148
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: have any representation whatsoever in a case that reportedly was

1149
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: just settled without his knowledge, even though he was named

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01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: as a defendant in said case. Another exclusive story that

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01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: we broke for you earlier this afternoon. Democrats in the

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01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: Wisconsin legislature have all but conceded that they can no

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01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: longer win school board races in conservative communities. So if

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,879
Speaker 1: you can't beat them, infiltrate them. Their bill would require

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01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: a teacher on every single school board in the state. No,

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01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: not an elected teacher, a teacher appointed by other teachers

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01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,839
Speaker 1: who wouldn't be able to vote on school board matters,

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01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: but would be able to go into closed session, in

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01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: other words, to act as an unelected spy for the

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: educational bureaucracy. All those stories coupvered and more still to

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01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: come here on the Dan O'Donnell Show, including the NBA

1162
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: trade deadline getting extremely, extremely busy today as pretty much

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: every team in the world made.

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01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: A deadline deal.

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01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks sending Anthony Davis to the Washington Wizards. You've

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01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: got Lonzo Ball. I had no idea he was on

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01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Calves. He's been trade. Not LaMelo Ball, the

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01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: older brother who has had all manner of injury issues

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01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: early on in his career. That was after James Harden

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: goes to the Cleveland Calves. You had the Chicago Bulls

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01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: looking like they're making trades just to make trades. I

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01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: have absolutely no idea what that organization is doing. The Wizards, though,

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01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: are now going to pair Anthony Davis with Trey Young.

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Speaker 1: So they have got a couple of big names, a

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Speaker 1: couple of big names who are often injured. That's a

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01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: big risk for them. What does this mean for a

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Speaker 1: Jannis We'll find out later on this hour.

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Speaker 2: He does a.

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Speaker 1: Long interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that the Journal

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01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: Sentinel is saying is a love letter to Milwaukee. I

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01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: actually sort of took a a different way. I sort

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01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: of saw it as a goodbye. It is now widely believed,

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01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: and I think the activity in the NBA today makes

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01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: it clear that most teams do believe that Yannis is

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01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: going to stay with the Bucks, at least until this summer. Folks,

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01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: Yannis is saying he wants to be a Buck for

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Speaker 1: the rest of his career. He wants to live in

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee forever, because that's what he's always said. At the

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Speaker 1: same time, he's saying if the team can't build a

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Speaker 1: competitive squad around him, he's going to go somewhere else.

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01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: His status has not changed, all right. Five o'clock word

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01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: in the cold hard cash contest Gold, Gold, Gold. You

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01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: have gone until five point fifty five to go to

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01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: our website, enter the keyword gold to enter a thousand

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01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: dollars cash contest and take home a grand which you

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01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: can use to maybe buy an entire ounce of gold.

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Speaker 1: The price fluctuations have been so crazy, I think gold

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Speaker 1: dropped through the lowest point. It was the biggest rop,

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Speaker 1: I should say, until the early nineteen eighties. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even sure what the price of an ounce of gold

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01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: is now. Probably hovering around there. Silver has just taken off, folks.

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01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: The commodities market fluctuations tell me that we might be

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01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: in for a wild ride over the next couple of months.

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Speaker 1: But we've been hearing that throughout twenty twenty five. And

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01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: in testimony today, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant said that, look,

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01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: we had over the last three quarters of twenty twenty

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: five four point one percent growth, and that was with

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01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: the longest government shut down in American history. Europe was

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01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: celebrating zero point three percent growth. We may have five

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01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 1: percent GDP growth in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five and the first quarter of twenty twenty six. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, President Trump is eliminating some of the

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01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,839
Speaker 1: big cost drivers. And that is just the sheer excess

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01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: number of people that were brought into this country illegally

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01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: under the Biden administration. How competitive is Wisconsin? Not very,

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01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: at least according to other states. Over the past eight years,

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Speaker 1: nearly eight years of Governor Ebers' leadership, Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce,

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01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: commonly known as WMC, put out a competitive report. Wisconsin

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01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: has a median age of forty point seven.

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Speaker 2: That is all right.

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Speaker 1: Producer Doug I'm guessing the word is wrong. I don't

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01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: have our text line up, but usually when the phone

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01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 1: lines go crazy like that, it's because the word was wrong.

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01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: Did I give out the wrong word? Double checking? All right?

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01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 1: I knew I should have been signed into our texting software.

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: I forgot about something before we get into this. I know,

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01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: I know.

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01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: It is like how did.

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01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: How did Morphius describe the matrix? It's like a splinter

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01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: in your mind. I know it is like a splinter

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01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: in all of your minds. If the word is wrong.

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01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: The word apparently is check cche ck check.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how we got gold in there, but

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Speaker 2: the word is in fact check cch e ck check.

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Speaker 1: You have got until fifty five past the hour, that

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: is five fifty five to go to our website enter

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Speaker 1: the keyword check for this hour. Thank you for double

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01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: checking that the word is correct. New competitiveness report from

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01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:15,799
Speaker 1: Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce shows that Wisconsin's population is aging

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01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: and that we are very highly taxed. The combination of

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01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: these two factors means that Wisconsin is not in a

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01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: good position to compete with other states. And that's to

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01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: say nothing of the physical climate that we live in.

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01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed, but the last two

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Speaker 1: months have been cold as heck. Not so in Florida.

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Speaker 1: Although I was talking to someone who's down in Florida

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Speaker 1: right now, the Naples area. No it's not my mom,

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01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: it's a business associate. And they actually told me that

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01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 1: it was going to get up to the mid sixties.

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Speaker 1: It's very, very cold in Naples right now. Is going

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01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: to get to the mid sixties. I think we got

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01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: to a high of about twenty two today, and because

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01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: it was sunny, it felt downright ball me. WMC, though,

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01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: found that Wisconsin's median age is forty point seven, more

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01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: than a year older than the national average. Residents of

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01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: the traditional retirement age of sixty five and older make

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01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: up nineteen point six of our state's population, compared to

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01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: eighteen percent nationally. Labor force participation continues to decline. In fact,

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01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: according to WMC, our labor force participation rate peaked in

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01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,520
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, twenty nine years ago and has steadily

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01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: declined ever since. Sixty percent six zero percent of employers

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01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: say they can't find enough workers. Big reason for this

1263
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 1: is not only does Wisconsin not have a favorable temperature climate,

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01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: we don't have a favorable government climate. Wisconsin's top individual

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01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: income tax rate is the ninth highest in the country

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01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: at seven point sixty five percent. Now you might say, well, Dan,

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01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 1: that's good, we're sticking it to the rich. What happens

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01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: when rich people can pay less taxes elsewhere they go?

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01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: There who is more mobile? Richer individuals or poorer individuals

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01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 1: i e. Who can simply up and leave or possibly

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01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: have multiple residences and establish residents in a state that

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Speaker 1: maybe doesn't have a state income tax at all. And oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, nine of them don't, including the state Florida,

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01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: with the single best physical climate of any state in

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01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: the country. It's a tropical climate. Texas too, very very

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01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 1: nice climate if you don't like it getting as warm

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01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: as it does in Florida in the summertime. Sixteen states,

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01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: according to WMC, now have flat income taxes. Wisconsin does not.

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Speaker 1: Not only do we have the ninth highest personal income

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01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: tax for top individuals, we also have a seven point

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01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: nine percent corporate income tax, twelfth highest in the country. Now,

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Speaker 1: what do you think that does When top earning individuals

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01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 1: and businesses are taxed higher than almost anywhere else in

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01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:39,839
Speaker 1: the country. Wisconsin doesn't look so attractive for a business

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01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:44,919
Speaker 1: to stay or to move to. Not only that, according

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01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: to WMC, Wisconsin's administrative code has one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: five thousand regulatory restrictions. That makes us the thirteenth most

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01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: regulated state in the entire country. What is one of

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01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: the biggest drivers of cost for a family? Yeah, you

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01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: got groceries, you got rent, mortgage, whatever. Healthcare is often

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01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: a major cost, and it's a big deal for a

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01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: state like Wisconsin that has a pretty dramatically aging population. Well,

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Speaker 1: in terms of healthcare cost, wmc's new Competitiveness Report found

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Speaker 1: our hospital costs are the fourth highest in the nation,

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Speaker 1: the highest costs for hospitals in the Midwest. We charge

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Speaker 1: three hundred and eighteen percent of Medicare rates compared to

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Speaker 1: the national average of two hundred and fifty four percent,

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Speaker 1: and META payments are fifty five percent higher than the

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Speaker 1: media in state. That's absolutely staggering. Why do you suppose

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Speaker 1: our costs are so much higher? Well, a big reason

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Speaker 1: could be the massive regulatory burden that one of the

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Speaker 1: most regulated industries in the entire country, healthcare, has to

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Speaker 1: jump through. It's not only that, though, education is a big,

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Speaker 1: big problem, as we reported in the three o'clock hour

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Speaker 1: you had the Department of Public Instruction actually taking public money.

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Speaker 1: Dairy Land Sentinel found our good friend Brian Frehley, who

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Speaker 1: is the editor in chief there, reported exclusively that they

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Speaker 1: took three hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars of taxpayer

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Speaker 1: money to take a whole bunch of school administrators from

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Speaker 1: districts all across the state to the Chula Vista Resort

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Speaker 1: in the Wisconsin Dells to wine and dine them in

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Speaker 1: the summer of twenty twenty four in order to get

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Speaker 1: them to essentially rig How test scores are done to

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Speaker 1: make it seem as though Wisconsin students are not are

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Speaker 1: performing a lot better than they are. Data from the

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Speaker 1: NAP the National Education Group shows two thirds of Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: students are below grade level in math seven to ten.

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Speaker 1: Seventy percent are not reading at grade level. Now, how

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Speaker 1: about this. I have been railing on per pupil spending

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Speaker 1: where all of this stuff sort of comes together.

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Speaker 2: How taxes are way.

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Speaker 1: Too high, how we have over burdensome costs, especially to

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Speaker 1: higher income people, and how we are just frittering money away.

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Speaker 1: The four hundred year veto Governor evers used is partial

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Speaker 1: veto authority to dramatically increase the per pupil spending that

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Speaker 1: school districts can engage in without ever having to go

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Speaker 1: to referendum for the next four centuries, dramatically increased.

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Speaker 2: Costs for property tax payers.

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Speaker 1: What I have been saying for years is that while

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Speaker 1: our per pupil spending has been exploding, we're not educating

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Speaker 1: nearly as many students. There aren't as many kids because

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Speaker 1: birth rates have dropped so much a because of the

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Speaker 1: just broader societal trends, people are having fewer children. Also,

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Speaker 1: as WMC found, we have an aging population. Older people

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Speaker 1: tend not to have as many children. This might be

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Speaker 1: the single most damning finding of all. Since two thousand,

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, per pupil spending has more than doubled. Over

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Speaker 1: the same time period, student enrollment fell by sixty five

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Speaker 1: thousand students. We had a slight drop in the number

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Speaker 1: of teachers as well, which is to be expected since

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Speaker 1: we had such a major drop in the past quarter century.

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Speaker 1: And sixty five thousand students we have sixty five thousand

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Speaker 1: fewer students, So how are we doubling per pupil spending?

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Speaker 1: Non teaching school staff grew by more than eight thousand

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Speaker 1: at the same time we lost sixty five thousand students.

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Speaker 1: This means for every eight students lost, schools hired one

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Speaker 1: edition non instructional employee. You want to know, this is

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Speaker 1: sort of the nexus of government waste of Tony Evers,

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Speaker 1: misplaced priorities, of soaking taxpayers with unnecessary costs to pay

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Speaker 1: for unnecessary government positions. It is all right here. It

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Speaker 1: is an incredible study and we are going to talk

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Speaker 1: to the president of the Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in just a second.

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Speaker 1: Scott Manley standing by, he'll join us here on the

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Speaker 1: Dan O'doorshow, Welcome back to.

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Speaker 2: The Dan O'Donnell Show.

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Speaker 1: Truly stunning findings in the competitiveness report put out by

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce. I'm actually kind of floored joining

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Speaker 1: us now to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: The executive VP of.

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Speaker 1: WMC, our friend Scott Manley, Sir, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: You are on the Dan o'donnald Show. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me Dan, And look, I wish we

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Speaker 3: could put out a report that had better information in

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Speaker 3: it than we did, but the reality is we're falling

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Speaker 3: behind as a state, and that's not going to be

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Speaker 3: good for business. It's not going to be good for workers,

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be good for families, and it's

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Speaker 3: not going to be good for consumers. So we were

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Speaker 3: alarmed and we thought we need to ring the alarm

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Speaker 3: bell and let people know what's going on in our

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Speaker 3: state and talk about how we reverse the trends reverse course.

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Speaker 1: Biggest findings for me, we have the ninth highest top

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Speaker 1: individual income tax rate, twelfth highest corporate tax rate. We

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Speaker 1: are the thirteenth most regulated state in the country with

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Speaker 1: over one hundred and sixty five thousand regulatory restrictions. We're

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Speaker 1: competing with nine states that have no income tax at all,

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Speaker 1: sixteen states that have flat taxes. So we have got

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Speaker 1: a business climate where not only do we have people

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Speaker 1: who might rather work in a much better physical climate,

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Speaker 1: like a warmer state like Florida, Texas, you know, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: somewhere like that, but we're also competing in states with

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Speaker 1: a much, much, much lower tax and regulatory burden. This

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Speaker 1: seems to be almost intentionally driving people in businesses. High earners,

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Speaker 1: the people who are entrepreneurs starting and buying businesses out

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Speaker 1: of this state. How do you reverse that trend? Is

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Speaker 1: it something really as simple as just lowering tax rates?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a great place to start. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think at the fundamental level, Dan, we need to

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Speaker 3: decide as a state, are we going to be a

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Speaker 3: state that rolls out the red carpet or are we

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Speaker 3: going to be a state that rolls out red tape?

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Speaker 3: Because businesses don't have to be in Wisconsin, right you know,

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Speaker 3: typically investment flows to where investment is welcome, and right now,

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Speaker 3: we have a really unwelcoming tax structure. We have a

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Speaker 3: really unwelcoming healthcare system. It's a great healthcare system, We've

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Speaker 3: got great quality, but it's the fourth most expensive in

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Speaker 3: the country. And for working age people, which is the

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Speaker 3: majority of the population, they get their health insurance from

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Speaker 3: their employer, and so when you have the fourth highest costs,

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Speaker 3: that is a significant it's like a hidden tax on

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Speaker 3: employment for employers. They're having to pay these fourth highest

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Speaker 3: hospital prices in the country, and it all adds up

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Speaker 3: to be a very very expensive place to do business.

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Speaker 3: And if we continue to be that place and continue

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Speaker 3: to have the thirteenth most regulations in the country, businesses

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Speaker 3: are going to you know, they're going to go to

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Speaker 3: the right carpet states. They're not going to stay in

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Speaker 3: the red tape states. They're going to go down to

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Speaker 3: the red carpet states like North Carolina and Florida and

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Speaker 3: Tennessee and Texas. And we don't want that to happen.

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Speaker 3: We care too much about Wisconsin to what that happen.

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Speaker 3: So that's why we put the report out.

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Speaker 1: And this also speaks to why we're aging a as

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Speaker 1: a state. It's because when you have your labor force

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Speaker 1: participation rate peaking in nineteen ninety seven, this indicates to

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Speaker 1: me that we're a full.

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Speaker 2: Year older than the national average.

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Speaker 1: Median age here in Wisconsin forty point seven, national average

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Speaker 1: thirty nine point two. What that tells me is that

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Speaker 1: the people who are here are the people who have

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Speaker 1: always been here, and that younger people are graduating from

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Speaker 1: college or they're graduating from high school, they're moving away

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Speaker 1: seeking opportunities. When you've got people who are of retirement

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Speaker 1: age making up nearly twenty percent of the entire population,

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Speaker 1: nearly two percent more than the national rate, that tells

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Speaker 1: me that you've got a real serious problem. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what's actually contributing to the massive spike in hospital

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Speaker 1: costs because we've got such an older population. We don't

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Speaker 1: have a population of people who are working and taking

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Speaker 1: care of people of retirement age.

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Speaker 3: Well, and you know, you just rattled off some really

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Speaker 3: important numbers, and I think this will help people sort

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Speaker 3: of understand what the ticking time bomb we have when

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Speaker 3: we look at the number of people in our state

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Speaker 3: who are eighteen or younger, so the next generation of

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Speaker 3: our workforce, for example, we are on pace just in

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Speaker 3: this current decade in the twenty twenties that if we

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Speaker 3: stay on the pace that we are, assuming it doesn't

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Speaker 3: get any worse, we're gonna have ninety we will have

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Speaker 3: lost ninety five thousand people under the age of eighteen

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Speaker 3: compared to the last decade. Ninety five thousand. That's like

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Speaker 3: almost the exactly the population of Kenosha, one of our

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Speaker 3: one of our largest is we could be losing the

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Speaker 3: equivalent of a city of Kenosha of young people. And

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Speaker 3: so for a state that makes things and grows things,

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Speaker 3: and those are you know, manufacturing is by far the

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Speaker 3: largest industry in our state, and agriculture is right there

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Speaker 3: behind it. Who's going who are the producers going to be.

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Speaker 3: Who are the workers going to be? If our pipeline

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Speaker 3: of workers and talent is diminishing at the rate that

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Speaker 3: it is, it's a very very serious problem. We got

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Speaker 3: to find a way to attract people to our state.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you how you don't do that. To

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Speaker 3: end is have you know, the eighth highest property taxes

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Speaker 3: in the country, have the ninth highest income tax in

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Speaker 3: the country, I mean, and have the fourth highest health

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Speaker 3: care costs in the country. It's it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a big challenge. We got to solve these problems in

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Speaker 3: reverse course.

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Speaker 1: And the property tax especially is only going up because

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Speaker 1: of one of these single worst public policies I think

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and that's the four hundred year veto

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Speaker 1: allowing school districts to simply unilaterally increase their per pupil

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Speaker 1: spending every single year without going to referendum for the

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Speaker 1: next four hundred years. When I talk to people out

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Speaker 1: of state, Scott, they can't believe that this was allowed,

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Speaker 1: that they can't believe that this is something that the

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Supreme Court actually signed off on. And I think

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Speaker 1: the single most mind blowing stat the single most mind

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Speaker 1: blowing finding from this WMC report, we've more than doubled

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Speaker 1: per pupil spending since the year two thousand. Per pupil

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Speaker 1: spending is doubled.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We have seen enrollment fall by sixty five thousand students

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Speaker 1: while non teaching educational staff grew by more than eight thousand.

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Speaker 1: For every eight students lost, schools hired one additional non

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Speaker 1: instructional employee. That to me sort of encapsulates the misplaced priorities.

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Speaker 1: The money is not going to teachers, it's not going

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Speaker 1: to education, it's going to educational bureaucrats who by definition

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Speaker 1: are not needed.

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Speaker 2: This is stunning to.

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Speaker 3: Me, it's ridiculous. And so another way to think about that,

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Speaker 3: Dan is we lost twenty seven hundred teachers over the

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Speaker 3: same time period that we lost sixty five thousand kids.

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Speaker 3: But for every three teachers that we lost, we hired

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Speaker 3: a new administrator or assistant administrator or assistant to the assistant.

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Speaker 3: I mean, And meanwhile, we've got sixty five thousand fewer

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Speaker 3: kids to educate. And you know, maybe that's why two

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Speaker 3: out of three kids can't read at grade level, two

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Speaker 3: out of three kids can't do math at grade level.

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Speaker 3: We just did a survey of our members, and we

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Speaker 3: asked them, you know, are are you struggling or do

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Speaker 3: your employees struggle with the ability to read or do math?

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Speaker 3: Sixty four percent said yes, Wow, nearly two thirds of

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Speaker 3: employers say our workers can't read and do math. And

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Speaker 3: you know, we asked the question, then, does your local

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Speaker 3: K twelve education system adequately prepare kids for the workforce,

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Speaker 3: and the majority of them said no, they don't. Fifty

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Speaker 3: six percent said no, they don't. Only only twenty three

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Speaker 3: percent said yes, our schools are sending us kids that

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Speaker 3: we can plug right in and have them do the job.

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Speaker 3: So that you know, economically, that's a problem for our

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Speaker 3: state if we are not adequately preparing kids to be

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Speaker 3: successful in careers. Number one, we're doing them a disservice.

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01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 3: But number two, we're doing our economy a disservice. And

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01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 3: and then when you add all of these expensive things

1508
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 3: like healthcare and property taxes and so forth, it's it's

1509
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 3: it's enough to put you in a death spiral. I mean,

1510
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 3: we mentioned in the port and the report and we

1511
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 3: were citing it will study that in two decades our

1512
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,719
Speaker 3: property tax bills will double because of the four hundred

1513
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 3: year veto, and the and the average residential property owner

1514
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 3: will have paid an extra twenty one thousand dollars in

1515
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 3: property taxes because of the because of the governor's veto.

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01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:54,719
Speaker 2: That's insane. That's that's unsustainable in the extreme.

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01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you already have young people who I think

1518
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 3: very legitimately are concerned about their ability to afford to

1519
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 3: own a home. Yeah, and now we're stacking on top

1520
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 3: of that. Just Wisconsin, not any of the forty nine

1521
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 3: other states, just Wisconsin is saying for the next four

1522
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 3: hundred years, we're going to make it even harder for

1523
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 3: you to own a home. And not just by a

1524
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 3: little bit. I mean we will get to the point

1525
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 3: in this state because of that veto where your property

1526
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,759
Speaker 3: tax payment each month is larger than your mortgage payment.

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01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:35,560
Speaker 2: That's not that's not. It seems impossible, Scott, that seems impossible.

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01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 3: And so we cannot as a state continue down this path.

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01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unsustainable.

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01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: Do you think Governor ever is right now? I mean,

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01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: I know we've got a gubernatorial election and Tom Tiffany,

1532
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 1: the Republican candidate, has already said day one he's undoing

1533
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 1: the four hundred year veto, do you think Governor Evers

1534
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: needs to admit the mistake and just undo it right

1535
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: now because we're already seeing I mean, people's property tax

1536
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 1: bills aren't so high that they're outstripping their their principal

1537
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 1: mortgage payments. But the sticker shock that I was hearing

1538
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: about when people were opening their property tax bills back

1539
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 1: in December was was stunning. Some of the some of

1540
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 1: the ones I saw our good friend Jessica McBride over

1541
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin RightNow dot com. She was just redacting addresses

1542
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:31,560
Speaker 1: and names. Of course, the increase of the year to

1543
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: year increases that she was posting. I could not believe

1544
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 1: that I was seeing for the exact same house. It's like,

1545
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 1: what did you build on two extra kitchens? Like how

1546
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 1: did the how did the home increase that much in

1547
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 1: terms of tax value?

1548
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 3: That they're just massive. I saw those same posts, and

1549
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 3: again it's I don't know how anybody can afford that.

1550
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:57,759
Speaker 3: I don't know how anybody can be expected to afford

1551
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 3: those kind of increases. You know, whether Tony Evers will

1552
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 3: reverse course, My sense is no, no, I don't than

1553
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 3: we WMC sued the governor over that veto and it

1554
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:16,799
Speaker 3: went to the Wisconsin Supreme Court, and he and Josh

1555
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 3: call Are Attorney General, fought to keep that four hundred

1556
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 3: year veto in place. You know, he had an opportunity

1557
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 3: to recognize that this is not the right path for

1558
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 3: the state of Wisconsin, and he chose to double down

1559
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 3: on it. So I wish he would admit that this

1560
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 3: was a mistake and undo it, but I have very

1561
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 3: little hope that he will.

1562
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:47,600
Speaker 1: The new study is Competitiveness in Wisconsin. The report is

1563
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 1: truly a bombshell. I'm going to be tweeting out about

1564
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,759
Speaker 1: it all night. You can find it at the WMC site.

1565
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 1: I assume it is up now. You guys have been

1566
01:47:56,520 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 1: posting about it. Scott Manley, Executive vice president of Whiskey

1567
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: Manufacturers and Commerce, Sir, always a pleasure talking with you.

1568
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: I like you. Wish we had some better news. I

1569
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: wish you didn't have to be the bearer of bad news,

1570
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 1: but this should come. I think everybody in this state

1571
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: should be required to read this report.

1572
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 2: It is that eye opening. So thank you for conducting it.

1573
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on Dan, and thanks for helping

1574
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:24,520
Speaker 3: us bring awareness to this problem.

1575
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: Anytime, my friend, anytime coming up. We are going to

1576
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: dive into the NBA trade deadline. It is less than

1577
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 1: twenty four hours from now, but it is shocking how

1578
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 1: many moves were made. Does that make it more or

1579
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: less likely that Jannis remains a buck? Discuss thing a

1580
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: little bit from all of the data provided by Wisconsin

1581
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: manufacturers and commerce. Our thanks once again to Scott Manly

1582
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:02,639
Speaker 1: for joining us to Time about it. They asked if

1583
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 1: I would be the one to release that study, and

1584
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:08,919
Speaker 1: I took a look at it. I got an advanced

1585
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 1: copy of it yesterday and set my good I almost

1586
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 1: devoted the entire show to this because, folks, it does

1587
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 1: not get more important for us as a state than

1588
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: the numbers in this report. We are going the wrong

1589
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 1: way and we have the absolute wrong people in charge

1590
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: and have for seven plus years.

1591
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:31,759
Speaker 5: Now.

1592
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: It is so important. This is such an important gubernatorial election.

1593
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 1: We need to make sure that we have pro business,

1594
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: pro growth, people who aren't openly hostile to manufacturers, to

1595
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: people who do commerce, to the quote unquote rich, to

1596
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 1: the quote unquote big corporations. Wisconsin has a real chance

1597
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 1: actually to be a national a leader in data economy. Yes,

1598
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: that includes data centers. What do we have? We have

1599
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:12,799
Speaker 1: a comedian who I like very much. I enjoy Charlie Barns.

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01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:16,599
Speaker 1: The Journal Sentinel is pumping him up as some sort

1601
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: of expert on data centers. Now, I watched the video

1602
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 1: he made, which, by the way, he was almost certainly

1603
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 1: being paid to do so. He didn't just all of

1604
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 1: a sudden come up with the idea that he hates

1605
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 1: data centers. This is how lobbyists work.

1606
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 3: It.

1607
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: And again it is caving to the worst the worst

1608
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 1: inclinations of Democrats in this state. Folks, there is going

1609
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 1: to be an entirely new economy built up over the

1610
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:58,559
Speaker 1: next quarter of a century. We can either be a

1611
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:03,760
Speaker 1: worldwide leader in it, or we can see ground to

1612
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 1: any other state that would jump at the chance. And

1613
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying just pile data center after data center

1614
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 1: after data center, but understand what happens when you have

1615
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: new economic ecosystems coming into this state. And how about

1616
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 1: making it more likely that states or that companies will

1617
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: come into this state by reducing the tax burden, by

1618
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: making it easier and more appealing to do commerce in

1619
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 1: this state. We haven't had a pro growth administration in

1620
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:44,680
Speaker 1: seven years, and frankly, it shows the fact that we

1621
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 1: have increased by eight thousand the number of non teaching

1622
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 1: staff declining. Enrollment has met sixty five thousand fewer K

1623
01:51:54,160 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 1: twelve students in Wisconsin. Sixty five thousand, hundred fewer teachers. Understandable, right,

1624
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 1: fewer kids to teach, Fewer teachers. Why are there eight

1625
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 1: thousand more bureaucrats in these schools?

1626
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 2: All right?

1627
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: I will be posting a whole lot of information about

1628
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 1: this over the next day or so because I really

1629
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 1: do believe that this is required reading for every single

1630
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:26,679
Speaker 1: policy maker, every single person in this state. NBA trade

1631
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 1: deadline is tomorrow afternoon. It seems like every big name

1632
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: in the NBA has been traded except Giannis. Anthony Davis

1633
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 1: just acquired by the Dallas Mavericks in the incomprehensible trade

1634
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 1: for Luka. Doncic's last year goes to the Washington Wizard.

1635
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 1: Buck's Great Chris Middleton as part of a big package

1636
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 1: going to Dallas that also includes draft picks. Today, Chris

1637
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:54,480
Speaker 1: Paul in his last season, got cut by the LA Clippers.

1638
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 1: He has now been traded to the Toronto Raptors James Harden.

1639
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 1: Late last night he goes to the Cleveland Cavaliers from

1640
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 1: the La Clippers. It looks like the Clippers are Here's

1641
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: what I think. I think the Clippers, No, Kawhi Leonard

1642
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 1: is going to get suspended because of that scandal where

1643
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 1: he was pretending to cut down trees so they could

1644
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 1: get him more money without having to count it against

1645
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 1: the cap. I think there's going to be a significant

1646
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 1: suspension there, and I think the Clippers are aware of that,

1647
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 1: so they're just they're folding on the season. The teams

1648
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:36,759
Speaker 1: you wanted to watch were Minnesota and Miami. If either

1649
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: of those two teams, which appear to be the only

1650
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 1: two left in the Yannis sweepstakes, if either of them

1651
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 1: makes a big move, especially if Miami, as rumored potentially

1652
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 1: makes a move for Jean Morant. Memphis just traded their

1653
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 1: other young star, Jaren Jackson junior. They're in a full rebuild.

1654
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 1: Ja Morant is as good as gone. Miami is a

1655
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 1: apparently interested. They are not going to pair Yannis with him.

1656
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: It's either Yannis or the consolation prize is John Morant.

1657
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:09,760
Speaker 2: Minnesota looked to.

1658
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:13,799
Speaker 1: It looked like they were freeing up a little space

1659
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: to potentially be able to add Yannis and then sign

1660
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:18,719
Speaker 1: him long term. They made a bit of a minor

1661
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 1: move Yannis, of course, doing that long interview with is

1662
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 1: it Jim O'sharski Is Osarski, Jim Ozarski, very very good

1663
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 1: Bucks reporter for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, saying, look, I

1664
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 1: want to stay in Milwaukee my entire career. Once again,

1665
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 1: he's putting the onus on the Bucks to either trade

1666
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:43,120
Speaker 1: him and start to rebuild or build a championship team

1667
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: around him. They've proven over the past five years they

1668
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: cannot build a championship team around him. I don't think

1669
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: anything has changed. I think Jannis wants out. He just

1670
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be blamed for wanting it out. Dan

1671
01:54:55,160 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: O'Donnell show coming right back, really looking forward to on

1672
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 1: tomorrow's Dan O'Donnell Show being done at least for now,

1673
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: with all of the Yannis ante Decompo trade drama. Trade him,

1674
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 1: don't trade him at this point, I really don't care.

1675
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: Producer Doug, we both think it's inevitable. Yanis is gone right.

1676
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 1: Whether it's now, whether it's at the deadline, you don't

1677
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 1: off season, okay, but whether it's now or whether it's

1678
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 1: after the season, he's gone right.

1679
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 2: You believe that.

1680
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: To you, I've thought it was inevitable actually since I

1681
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 1: started talking to people in the sports industry who people

1682
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 1: in the know who said, yeah, he hasn't been happy

1683
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 1: with the direction of the organization in years, and this

1684
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 1: is basically the last ditch effort. This was before they

1685
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 1: signed Miles Turner, and that was the last, the absolute

1686
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 1: last chance to show him that you could build a

1687
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 1: championship contender and they can't. Whether it's the Heat, whether

1688
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 1: it's the Timberwolves, whether it's the Golden State Warriors who

1689
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: apparently have the assets to potentially Landiannis, it's gonna be somebody,

1690
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:18,879
Speaker 1: and frankly, I'll be glad when it's over. Dan O'Donnell

1691
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 1: show back tomorrow three oh six p m.