WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 10/11/25

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<v Speaker 1>Seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday on a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful Saturday morning. Gonna be a great weekend weatherwise. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>yet another short show today. I am on until eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and then we turn it over to our coverage of

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<v Speaker 1>the UC Bearcats four and one. You see Bearcats versus

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<v Speaker 1>University of Central Florida nights, and I double checked that

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<v Speaker 1>they are the nights. They're three and two. That game

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<v Speaker 1>is at noon, So anyway, I will be out of

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<v Speaker 1>here at eleven o'clock. Well, I'll tell you last Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Rosky, who now is Sophie Rosky, was sent eight

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<v Speaker 1>years in prison for the attempted as assassination of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States Supreme Court Judge Brett Kavanaugh. He was locked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosky was for about three years before sentencing, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>credit for that, and they have to give him credit

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Also, federal inmates they can receive up to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four days a year for good time credit if

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<v Speaker 1>they stay out of trouble while they're in prison. So

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<v Speaker 1>applying the three year credit for time served and assuming

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<v Speaker 1>he gets the fifty four days per year of good

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<v Speaker 1>time credit, mister Rosky will get out sometime in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, which ain't that far away. All that for

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<v Speaker 1>the attempted assassination of a Supreme Court justice, it just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>A review of the facts of this case, I think

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<v Speaker 1>would be helpful. And this is from an op ed

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<v Speaker 1>piece written by Mike Davis. He's with the article three project. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a review of the facts. Rosky came well prepared

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<v Speaker 1>to kill Justice Kavanaugh. Among other things, he brought a handgun,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly forty rounds of ammunition, a tactical knife, lock picking tools,

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<v Speaker 1>a nail punch, a crowbar, a pistol, light, duct tape,

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<v Speaker 1>pepper spray, zipdizes, and hiking boots with padding on the

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<v Speaker 1>souls so he could move about the kavanaughs home more quietly,

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<v Speaker 1>just as Kavanaugh lives with his wife and two teenage daughters.

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<v Speaker 1>God forbid, what would have happened had the other Kavanaughs

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<v Speaker 1>tried to defend him. When Roski arrived, however, he found

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<v Speaker 1>he could not go through with his plan because law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement was outside the Kavanaugh's home, realizing they had seen him.

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<v Speaker 1>Rossi called nine to one one and claimed to be suicidal,

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<v Speaker 1>and he confessed his plan to the police dispatcher.

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<v Speaker 3>So I want to tell you just briefly.

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<v Speaker 1>In federal court, in sentencing, they have the Federal Sentencing Guidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not mandatory, they are advisory. However, how it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>In federal court, it's a big thing. Most judges usually

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<v Speaker 1>don't stray too far from what the guidelines dictate and

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<v Speaker 1>the government. According to the government, the guideline calculation, according

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<v Speaker 1>to them was thirty years to life. Thirty years to life,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the max. As she gave him eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>And it even gets worse. Okay, so one morning Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>woke up and decided he was now Sophie. And the

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<v Speaker 1>record suggests that Judge Bordman's leniency was influenced, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in part by ideological sympathy. In her sentencing remarks, she

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<v Speaker 1>cited Roski's mental health struggles and his alleged transgender status

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<v Speaker 1>as mitigating factors and mitigating means that's in his favor,

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<v Speaker 1>the defendant favor, And she actually mentioned President Trump in

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<v Speaker 1>the decision in her sentence, noting that one of President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's executive orders would affect Roski's ability to receive gender

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<v Speaker 1>transition medical care. However, sincere her concern, the courtroom is

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<v Speaker 1>not the place for identity based indulgence. A judge's duty

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<v Speaker 1>is to apply the law even handedly, not to validate

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<v Speaker 1>the defendant's self expression. And did I mention that, Judge Boardman,

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<v Speaker 1>are you ready for this was a Biden appointee.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly, no surprise there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's drilled down on her just a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Boardman, and what we know about her. In twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, she denied a request from parents in Maryland

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<v Speaker 1>to opt out their children from public school classes where

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<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ plus books are promoted. In June of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court reversed Bowman Boardman by siding with the parents.

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<v Speaker 1>So the good guys won there in the appeal, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the facts of that case. In the case, a group

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<v Speaker 1>of Muslim and Christian parents sued the Montgomery County, Maryland

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<v Speaker 1>School Board over a policy that would allow parents to

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<v Speaker 1>opt their children out of classes. Sounds reasonable to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Boorman denied the parents' plainists motion for a preliminary

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<v Speaker 1>injunction that would have reinstated a previous policy that allowed

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<v Speaker 1>for that opt out. Boardman ruled that mere exposure to

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<v Speaker 1>ideas contrary to religious beliefs doesn't constitute a burden on

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<v Speaker 1>religious exercise and quote that is not in doctrination close quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people would disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>With you, Judge on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Also in February, Judge Boardman imposed a nationwide preliminary in junction.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we talked about those against the enforcement of President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's executive order to end birthright citizenship. That's why in

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<v Speaker 1>its way through the courts. Also in February, the activist

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<v Speaker 1>judge masquerading as a unbiased federal judge, sided with the

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<v Speaker 1>ultra radical American Federation of Teachers to block the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Government Efficiency from accessing information from the Offices of

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<v Speaker 1>Personnel Management and the Department of Energy regard or Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Education regarding student loans. But in August, again, thank

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<v Speaker 1>god for the Court of Appeals, the Fourth District US

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<v Speaker 1>Court of Appeals vacated that lower court injunction and allowed

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<v Speaker 1>DOJE in the Treasury Department to proceed with accessing the information.

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, we get her deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, and I don't consider this as too big a deal,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just kind of shows where she's coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>She also made modest contribution five hundred bucks to Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton's presidential campaign. She gave five hundred bucks to Obama's

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<v Speaker 1>presidential campaign. So I think, based on her history of

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<v Speaker 1>siding with liberal litigants, it's fair to ask this question.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm rolling around in my mind. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>know what my answer is.

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<v Speaker 1>But the question, would her sentence have been as lenient

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<v Speaker 1>if the victims of the attempted assassination were, oh, say,

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, Justice Elena Kagan, Justice Sonia Soda

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<v Speaker 1>mayor think about that. I kind of think you might

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<v Speaker 1>have seen a different sentence there. And there's a thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the criminal justice system that's called deterrence. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>any first year criminal justice student learns about what deterrence is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not really in most cases a big proponent

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<v Speaker 1>of a sentence being a deterrent. In some cases it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is one of them. Let's think about that

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<v Speaker 1>just for a minute. Deterrence aims to prevent crime in

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<v Speaker 1>the wider community by making an example of the offender. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this offense was a very thorough and well thought out

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<v Speaker 1>attempt by mister Rossky to kill a Supreme Court justice

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<v Speaker 1>and possibly his family as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this wasn't a shooting at three am and

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<v Speaker 3>over the rhine.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, Rosky, he put a lot of thought into this,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of planning, and what I read to you

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<v Speaker 1>is just the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy was rare and to go. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are others out there with the same demented minds, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>the same demented things that Rosky thought about. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to tell you what has happened in the not

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<v Speaker 1>too distance future. Two attempts to assassinate Donald Trump, the

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<v Speaker 1>congressional baseball shooting of Steve Scalise in twenty seventeen, the

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<v Speaker 1>plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Widmer in twenty twenty, then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, sadly, just recently, the assassination of Charlie Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>one month ago yesterday. So, if a demented radical leftist

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<v Speaker 1>who thinks it's okay to kill to advance a political agenda,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're one of those persons, or I'm one of

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<v Speaker 1>those persons, do you think that an eight year sentence

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<v Speaker 1>is going to deter that person from following through on

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<v Speaker 1>an assassination attempt. I don't think so. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it wouldn't. But thirty to life what the

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<v Speaker 1>sentence should have been. That's a deterrent. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>usually don't speak about deterrence with respect to criminal sentencing,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this case, it's different. These people think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>These people plan these things. You know, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>three in the morning suiting down an OTR.

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<v Speaker 3>They plan it through.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, most of these people are somewhat intelligent.

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<v Speaker 1>They're twisted, but they're somewhat intelligent. But of course, as

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<v Speaker 1>we know, Judge Boardman was more concerned about the defendant's

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<v Speaker 1>trend issues then she was concerned about crafting a sentence

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<v Speaker 1>that would deter others. And she could have done that

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<v Speaker 1>and the government you can appeal a sentence in federal court.

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<v Speaker 1>The government thankfully is appealing that sentence. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a Supreme Court justice here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of think, I don't know much about the Fourth

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<v Speaker 1>Circuit Court of Appeals. I kind of think that that

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<v Speaker 1>sentence may be increased. And I'll tell you something, all

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<v Speaker 1>the years I've been doing this stuff and doing federal work,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that happen. But in this case, it

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<v Speaker 1>just may and I think it would be appropriate if

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<v Speaker 1>they do, And hopefully the Fourth Circuit will make the

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<v Speaker 1>right decision and just fix this obvious wrong because it

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<v Speaker 1>was so we'll have to see where that goes. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>she's on the bench up there, and he's all worried about, Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he may go to a federal prison because of Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to pay for his sex change surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>He attempted to murder a Supreme Court justice. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>care about that at all? Well, of course that Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court justice happened to be just happened to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Trump appointment, but that shouldn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>But see, that's the thing. And I don't know her,

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<v Speaker 3>and I only know about her what I just read

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<v Speaker 3>to you. But that's the thing with these people on

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<v Speaker 3>the left.

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<v Speaker 1>They think that they're right, they're righteous, and what they

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<v Speaker 1>believe just kind of cancels out any other obvious things

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<v Speaker 1>that the judge should be thinking about. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>shocked by it. And by the way, we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>talking to legal analysts Steve Gooden about this decision at

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<v Speaker 1>ten thirty, and I'm really interested to see what he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks about it, because he does a lot of federal

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<v Speaker 1>work too, But eight years, three years for time for

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<v Speaker 1>credit served, I think about I don't know about a

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<v Speaker 1>year and a half for good time credit. Dude is

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<v Speaker 1>out in about twenty twenty eight, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got to report lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, people don't, people don't follow those things

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. So it was just a travesty and

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<v Speaker 1>absolute travesty. But no surprise given her pedigree. And I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to say that, and I don't like criticizing judges,

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<v Speaker 1>especially federal judges, but I think it's appropriate in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>This never should have happened, never should have happened. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to see what the appellate court does.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take a short break here and be

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<v Speaker 1>back if you want to weigh in. Seven four nine,

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, one, eight hundred. The big one are the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen, Saturday midday.

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<v Speaker 3>We are back, Mike Allen, Saturday midday.

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<v Speaker 1>We've just got a couple minutes here before we have

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<v Speaker 1>to break for the news. I have open lines from

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<v Speaker 1>nine thirty to ten seven four, nine, seven thousand, one,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>The big one are the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>If you weigh in those of you that have called

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<v Speaker 1>and are on hold, I will get you after the news.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise just a little bit more about this decision,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just an abomination.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The man is a sitting Supreme Court justice, the highest

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<v Speaker 1>court in the land, the highest that you can rise

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<v Speaker 1>to in the judiciary. And I've read to you and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more about his plans. This guy was

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<v Speaker 1>primed and ready to go. I guess he got a

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<v Speaker 1>pang of conscience. Well, I think, probably more accurately, he

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<v Speaker 1>saw that federal authorities, law enforcement people were there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he got his pangs of conscience where he confessed.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was ready to do this. He was ready

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<v Speaker 3>to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And when the sentence what the government was arguing for,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think was reasonable under the circumstances in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty to life. And what does Judge Deborah Boardman, an

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<v Speaker 1>activist judge of Biden appoint.

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<v Speaker 2>What does she do?

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<v Speaker 1>Gives him eight years credits, three years time, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has to do that, and she has no say over

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<v Speaker 1>the good time decided by the Bureau of Prisons. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>this dude could be out in twenty twenty nine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of example does that set? I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>does that factor in with deterrens? And ain't gonna deter

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<v Speaker 1>anybody but thirty to life I think would because, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, if you look at it, you'll find out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right.

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<v Speaker 1>These people that try this stuff, they're not stupid. They

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<v Speaker 1>may be evil, they may be demented, but.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not stupid. They're gonna know.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody's planning an assassination, they're gonna know what the

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<v Speaker 1>sentence in this case is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you shrug your shoulders and say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>eight years, Yeah, I can do that. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>worth that for me to assassinate fill in the blank.

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<v Speaker 1>So we should see what the Court of Appeals does

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<v Speaker 1>on this thing. But I sure hope they step in

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<v Speaker 1>and do the right thing. And he has been slammed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry she has been slammed. After the decision. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to read you a couple of them. There's

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<v Speaker 1>an author, M. A. Rothman. I'm not familiar with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He called the sentence pathetic, and you can use that

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<v Speaker 1>word to describe it. Here's what he said. A guy

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<v Speaker 1>who showed up at a Supreme Court justice's house, armed

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<v Speaker 1>and ready to kill him, just got a lighter sentence

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<v Speaker 1>than some people get for tax crimes, and the judge

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<v Speaker 1>turned it into a trans acceptance story. This is beyond parody.

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<v Speaker 1>The doj oneted thirty years, he got eight. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is another thing too, the last thing that mister Rockman

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<v Speaker 1>said and the media barely blinked.

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<v Speaker 3>And Buddy, he is right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to find in some of these media Resource

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<v Speaker 1>Center times this was mentioned in the lamestream media. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I can try to do that during the break, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not watching Fox, you're not going to know

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and if you do know about it, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to know much. So anyway, your call is

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<v Speaker 1>when we get back Mike Allen Saturday midday. They were

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<v Speaker 1>back Mike Allen Saturday midday talking about the absurd, abhorrent.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, think of any other word that you can

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<v Speaker 3>think of.

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<v Speaker 1>To describe the sentence that was given to Nicholas Rosky

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<v Speaker 1>also known as Sophie Rosky.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess he.

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<v Speaker 1>Woke up one morning and say, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a girl. So of course, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the government and the Bureau of Prisons has to move

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<v Speaker 1>heaven and earth to accommodate that. And the sentencing judge,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Boardman, that was one of the things that she

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<v Speaker 1>was concerned about in sentencing. So a guy who's already demented,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you'd have to be to want to kill

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<v Speaker 1>a Supreme Court justice. Does the sex change deal the

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<v Speaker 1>trans thing, which there are some that think that that

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<v Speaker 1>is a psychological illness or symptomatic of it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, those one of the factors that she

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<v Speaker 1>based it on. There are people calling for her impeachment,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is precedent for impeachment of a federal judge.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily agree with that. I think it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a waste of time. I don't think there would

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<v Speaker 1>be a conviction in the Senate. But it's still it's

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<v Speaker 1>still reprehensible. Hey, let's go to the phones here, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Steve and Marie mont Hey. Good morning, Steve, Hey, Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I say goodbye to a feign officer?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>His name is Jeff Wabb But he was a correction

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<v Speaker 4>officer with me at Levin and Correctional. He died two

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<v Speaker 4>is still heart failure. He was sixty four, and he

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<v Speaker 4>was a great officer, and most most officers have heart

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<v Speaker 4>problems when they get older because of the stress. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so I just want to mention that he's a great guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad I worked with him well at all, correction officer.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to the state institutions in my role as

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<v Speaker 1>criminal defense lawyer before I retired. That has got to

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<v Speaker 1>be a tough, tough job, you know, I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>and a dangerous job too.

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<v Speaker 4>Just want to let you know I appreciate you my

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<v Speaker 4>contents for let me tell tough. Okay, say goodbye to.

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<v Speaker 3>Him, No problem, my pleasure, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wanted him to address that. But that's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a tough job. And those people, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>make much money at all. And you know, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>obviously locked up in prison, but you're around that day

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<v Speaker 1>in and day out. And I always salute those people

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<v Speaker 1>because again, I don't think you'll get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that want to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, let's talk to Rick in Dallas. Hey, good morning, Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>That might have you going, I'm good, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 6>What you got one thing? First thing to begin with,

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<v Speaker 6>don't bear a cat. So I know the boys. I

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<v Speaker 6>know they're gonna beat them boys down of the Florida

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm not gonna even worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That they're looking good, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody told me they cracked the top twenty five. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but they are looking really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And before I hold your phone, I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 6>you keep mentioning a guy on the police force.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an official.

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<v Speaker 6>His last name is Guten Guten.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, he don't tell me if he.

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<v Speaker 5>Could, is he is?

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<v Speaker 6>Somehow blood leaked to that call Gooden that was found

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<v Speaker 6>guilty of racketeern or something that seventy He was a

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<v Speaker 6>police chief back in the seventh I remember what exactly

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<v Speaker 6>did he get in trouble for him back then?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was a sort of different things. Uh Sy

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<v Speaker 1>Lease was the prosecutor at the time, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>so much respect for Cy. He didn't get along with

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<v Speaker 1>the chief of police Carl Gooden, and Gooden was indicted.

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<v Speaker 3>He was convicted.

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<v Speaker 1>However, it's important to note that his conviction was overturned

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<v Speaker 1>and he had a very successful career in business after that.

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<v Speaker 1>I always kind of thought that he got a raw deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But to answer your question, I don't know for certain.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I don't think there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>connection there. But you know, just out of curiosity, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's cold because he's on at ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, one, one and one final thing. They got a

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<v Speaker 6>real gauntlet to go through, I'm talking to They gotta

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<v Speaker 6>play a Zola, they gotta play Baylor. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>if they if they gonna be uh, nobody can say

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<v Speaker 6>if they they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody gave it to him now.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have to earn it, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, And you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was up at UC in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>mid to late seventies, you know, they have oh and eight,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh and nine seasons. But if you recall

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<v Speaker 1>maybe about ten fifteen years ago, they cracked the top

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<v Speaker 1>four and they darn near got Bowl consideration. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they're that good this year, but I

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<v Speaker 1>love to see them do well.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just a good thing for the city.

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<v Speaker 3>And thank you for the call.

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<v Speaker 5>Rick.

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<v Speaker 6>They gonna win. They gonna win today, and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>beat Oklahoma States. They not Oklahoma States, not that year really,

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<v Speaker 6>but they gonna, but now they gonna have trouble with Baylor,

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<v Speaker 6>and they gonna definitely have trouble with all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm what I'm pulling for real.

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<v Speaker 1>We shall see. I appreciate the call, Rick, thank you. Yeah,

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>they're surprising some people this year. And I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say I follow them closely because I don't. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>baseball guy. But uh, you know I'm paying attention to him.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, let's talk to Barry in Miamisburg. Hey, good morning, Barry.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good morning.

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<v Speaker 8>How's it going today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good, I'm good. What you got for me?

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<v Speaker 8>I wanted to talk about something different this week?

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh the government shutdown. Yeah, the big beautiful bill made

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<v Speaker 8>a few tiny, itty bitty cuts things that needed to go,

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<v Speaker 8>and now the Democrats are holding a third of the

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<v Speaker 8>country hostage, trying to replace with more spending that we

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<v Speaker 8>don't need.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, we need.

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<v Speaker 8>Real spending cuts, not more spending.

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<v Speaker 3>You're absolutely right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm seeing in the opinion Pollsbury is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a split between who's at fault, pretty

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:10.879
<v Speaker 1>even between Republicans and Democrats. It's not, in fact, but

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that's what people think.

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<v Speaker 8>That's because a lot of people are listening to the

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 8>garbage that you know, consumer's like, but they're not even

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<v Speaker 8>talking to us. Well, you know, if you'd stop trying

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<v Speaker 8>to waste over a trillion dollars, then maybe people will

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<v Speaker 8>want to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 8>But you're stealing money from taxpayers and burning it for corruption,

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 8>and of course nobody wants to talk to you. Get

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<v Speaker 8>rid of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with you, And you know, the Republicans contend,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not drilled down on this deeply, but they

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>contend this is all about federal dollars for health care

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<v Speaker 1>for illegal immigrants. And there again, if in fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it's true, and I think it probably is, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>case of with the Democrats, Uh, the hell with the

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.439
<v Speaker 1>American people. I'm going to bat for these people that

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>trespassed in our country. It's just beyond bizarre, and they

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 1>are paying a price for it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, a few of those dollars will be going to

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 8>illegal immigrants. Yes, a few of those dollars will be

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<v Speaker 8>going to abortion, but only because the Democrats want to

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<v Speaker 8>spend as much money as they can on everything, not

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 8>because they are targeting spending for illegal aliens or for

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<v Speaker 8>abortion right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I heard just this morning too that thousands of

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>federal employees are now being fired. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's going to stand up in the courts, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, that's what everything bitched about.

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<v Speaker 3>Dose.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think the federal government the workforce needed a

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<v Speaker 1>shaking up, and that's exactly what's happening. So I'm sympathetic

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to people that get laid off. I was laid off

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>from the police department back in nineteen seventy six, and

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>it's tough to take, but it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 8>At this point, well, you know, just pass a clean bill.

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 8>Stop trying to put stuff that was cut and rightfully

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<v Speaker 8>cut earlier this year and has already been voted on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you're right, and I appreciate the call, Barry. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see where it goes.

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<v Speaker 8>Second thing, Okay, my prayers. First caller and his friend. Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, those guys need everything they can get.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely a tough job, a tough Thank you for your

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>consideration on that too.

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<v Speaker 3>Very considerate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have a nice take.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay you too, Barry. Oh Man, you know you talk

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>about the government shutdown. We just have a few minutes here.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do this last week but didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough time. There is a publication, and as I'll tell you,

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>it's the Babylon Bee, and boy they twist the Libs

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>into circles. Last week they did a really funny piece

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<v Speaker 1>on the seven most terrifying consequences of a government shutdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are the seven most terrifying, according to the Babylon

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<v Speaker 1>b I don't really understand this. The Capital Cafeteria will

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to serve Ted Kruz his customary afternoon

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>ho hos.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if Ted Cruz loves hose or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, the department that you've never heard of that

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>does nothing for you will be furloughed. And they follow

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that up with you can kiss the Commission on Overseas

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Native Fisheries goodbye. There's a lot of truth in number two.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Number three government workers will lose thousands of

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>hours of sleep. They would otherwise be oh man, they

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>would otherwise be getting at work.

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<v Speaker 3>No one wants to sleep on their own time.

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<v Speaker 1>Number four, Rand Paul will be intolerably giddy. So you

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>know they're trying to keep this on both sides. I

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>guess I like this one. AOC will have to go

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>back to bartending, but she doesn't know how to make

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a rum and coke. And they follow that up with, hey,

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a tough recipe. Number six. Instead of shopping online

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>while working from home, government employees will have to shop

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>online while.

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Furloughed at home.

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>And finally, at number seven, no one will be able

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>to unlock the restrooms at y seventy National Park. It

0:29:56.120 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>is literally impossible to evacuate your bowels without government support.

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously it's a serious thing, and there probably

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>are some people that are going to get.

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Hurt by it. I do understand that.

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>And again, I was on the receiving end of one

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>of these things quite a few years ago. And you know,

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>as far as the layoffs that we went through, I

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>went through with the Police Department. I know, I was young.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand, you know, budget things and all this

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. But I did not believe in many

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of my friends who were on the police department, we

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>were police cadets at time, didn't believe that this was

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. I mean, really, it's like, how can

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>they do this?

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 3>They can't do.

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<v Speaker 1>This too as well, they can and they did. I

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>got back on the department in nineteen seventy nine. I

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>believe it was they finally got some money. What happened

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>with us was there was a thing called the l

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>EAA Law Enforcement Assistance Administration. It was created by President

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Nixon that poured millions of dollars into federal aid for

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>police departments. That was what paid us our salaries as

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>police cadets. Well, that money ran out, and boom, we

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>were gone. It's a tough thing to take, but you know,

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes things have to happen, and you know, to me,

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna I don't think we're gonna see any

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>serious consequences of paring down the federal government so much.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess, you know, time will tell on all of that.

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>But those are kind of funny from the Babylon b

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you know. Getting back to the thing with Justice Kavanaugh

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and the assassination attempt, one of the other things that

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Judge Boardman took into consideration, which she is allowed to do,

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>is the fact that he abandoned his criminal intent, which

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>he did apparently if the facts that I have read

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>are true, and a judge can consider that. But I mean,

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>if you read the opinion, she makes it a real

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>big deal, like, well, that's the main thing I'm taking

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>into consideration. That was not the main thing. The main

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>thing she was taking into consideration was the fact that,

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>then God, for Donald Trump, there's an executive order prohibiting

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the full I don't even know what they call it anymore,

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and I don't really care, you know, the full sex

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>change thing. But they're still doing things that are costing

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you and I in federal prisons, in the Bureau of

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Prisons to kind of make these people that don't know

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>what sex they are feel a little bit more comfortable.

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying you make jail a terrible place,

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>but my god, once again, once again you got the Democrats,

0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and you got them, and they're all concerned about these things.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And at some point you just have to wonder, when

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>are the people going to matter, the American people.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, you hear some of these people too.

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>They'll talk about illegal immigrants, and they'll say they won't

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>refer to them as that. They'll say residents of the

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>state of Illinois, residents of the state of California, and

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>that is their legal status. Well, I don't know if

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it's their legal status it's their practical status. They're not citizens,

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>their residents. And again I'm not saying you go take

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>them and throw them in federal prison forever. However, when

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>it comes down to helping Americans as opposed to helping

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>illegal immigrants, I know where I fall on that one,

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and I read some things a while back. I should

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.239
<v Speaker 1>have probably drilled down on them where the Bureau of

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Prisons is having one hell of a time dealing with

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>these trans issues in the various prisons.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, think about it.

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>You got a guy, I mean, take this guy, you know,

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>he wakes up in the morning and say, gee, you know,

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm a girl. So we all got to by

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>we I mean the taxpayers. We have to jump through hoops,

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>spend all this money because of this. And again I'm

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:32.959
<v Speaker 1>not advocating that you are cruel to these people. You're

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>mean to these people that you know you do bad

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>things to them. However, I think you do, or you

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>should take into consideration. They are point zero five percent

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>of the population. Point zero five percent of the population.

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>That's got a factor into this somehow. Anyway, we got

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to take a break for the news, but when we

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<v Speaker 1>get back, we're gonna back in with our friend Christopher Smithman.

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Lots going on on the city council race, mayor's debate

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 1>they had this week. I'm going to talk to Christopher

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>about that, and we'll do that when we get back.

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<v Speaker 3>Video seven hundred WLW Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Gallan AM Hour two Today is the second and final

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<v Speaker 1>hour of Saturday Midday. Yet another short show because of

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the University of Cincinnati University of Central Florida football game,

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>which begins at noon. Our coverage begins at eleven after

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<v Speaker 1>I vacate the premises here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll tell you what. There was a lively.

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Debate mayor's candidate debate Thursday night, sponsored by The Inquirer

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and Xavier University. Lots of talk about the collaborative agreement,

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, with Pureval. A lot of it was, you know, Trump, Trump, Trump.

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>He would not this one of my takeaway, he would

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>not rule out a tax increase. So I think that's

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>something of some significance. Here to talk about it is

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Smitheman, former Vice mayor, former Law and Public Safety chair,

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and current financial advisor extraordinaire.

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<v Speaker 3>Christopher, how you doing.

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good, Mike. Thanks for having me on My

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>pleasure I definitely watch, Yeah, but I definitely watched the debate.

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what happens is, you know, candidates go out

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 2>and they poll things the public doesn't understand, like, hey,

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>a candidate goes out, they do a poll and they're

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what type of negative ad they

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 2>can run that would move the needle for them to

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 2>win the race. And clearly this mayor believes saying things

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 2>about Trump are talking about MAGA during a local election

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>which has nothing to do with Trump and nothing about

0:36:55.520 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Maga right, will help will help drive voters away from

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Corey Bowman. So that that's really why he kept coming

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 2>back to it. He's done a poll out there. The

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 2>taps say the more he says that, the worse it

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>is for Corey. And that's why they always say, this

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 2>is Corey Bowman, the brother of the vice president, right me,

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>They don't introduce me that way. They don't go Christopher Smitheman,

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>the brother of Herbs Smith or James Smith. Aman are

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Albert smithmen? Right? That's that's a strategy on his part,

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 2>and the problem with it is it distracts us, which

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 2>is his goal. The mayor's goal, current mayor's goal, distracts

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>us from the real problems that we've got to solve,

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and number one is crime. I was just disappointed that

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 2>the lead question was from the Inquirer, crime is down.

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 2>This is your there. They're absolutely did wrong about that.

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.240
<v Speaker 2>And just as you're going into it, Mike, to that debate,

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 2>there was a shooting down at Fountain Square, and so

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 2>you and I have lived long enough to see that.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're seeing spikes and crime in downtown, and

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>then you see it spreading out into the other fifty

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>one neighborhood, and that's an indication that we're not headed

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 2>in the right direction. And my last comment about it

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 2>is the mayor was very disingenuous, and I want to

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 2>hone in on this because you heard him speaking a

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 2>lot about the police and how he supported him. But

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the clear message from the FOP, which you've been endorsed

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 2>by and I've been endorsed by, they have taken a

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 2>no confidence vote in this mayor. So if you don't

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 2>know that, he send me up there saying, you know,

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 2>the police and I have a great relationship. We're doing great.

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Everything is wonderful. But he's the clarity. Was it okay?

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 2>What the FOP has taken a no confidence voting you.

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 2>And if I was looking for the moderator and the inquirer,

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 2>listen to this, ask him that question. Meaning the number

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 2>one issue on people's mind is crime. You would think

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 2>a question would be why do you believe the Cincinnati

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:03.919
<v Speaker 2>Police depart took a no confidence vote in your leadership? Yeah,

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>but that question wasn't asked of him, right, And so

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 2>people have to understand that we've got to focus on

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 2>this crime that's going on. And Holly was there in

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the front row. Ronda Win, whose daughter Cassandra Wynn was

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>murdered in OTR shot in the back, five children, She

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 2>was there in the front row. And I would say

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.760
<v Speaker 2>that I was looking for the mayor to say, listen,

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I see you, Holly, I see you, Ronda Win mother.

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I am so sorry about you being beat up and punched.

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>You didn't deserve that. And Ronda Whin, the burying of

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 2>a child has got to be the worst case scenario

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 2>for any parent. We extend our deepest condolences to you.

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 2>The government failed to provide that protection and we're so sorry. Hey,

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.919
<v Speaker 2>guess what, we still have an arrest that the bad

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 2>guy who did it we're still searching and wanting that

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 2>arrest and committing himself in that debate to finding the

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.720
<v Speaker 2>per who killed Cassandra Win. That's what I was looking

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.880
<v Speaker 2>for from the mayor. I didn't hear any of that.

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>No, he didn't say anything like that. The Inquirer is reporting, Christopher.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>The candidates clashed over crime, with pure of All defending

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the city's collaborative Agreement and Bowman claiming it was being

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>weaponized against police. Where do you come down on the

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>collaborative Agreement?

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, the Collaborative Agreement is a historic document that we

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>all should be very proud of. But we're no longer

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 2>under federal oversight. That's a very important statement. Right. Paul

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Green has come in, he's done his job. We've done

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>a refresh. This Cincinnati Police Department has turned itself around,

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 2>and we now are a model for the rest of

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 2>the country to see and witness, and we should be

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 2>proud of that, right. But I don't even want this

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 2>pseudo with that our officers to feel like they're under

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 2>some federal oversight because we're hiring consultants that think they

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.439
<v Speaker 2>can go out and intervene directly in police business. Here's

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 2>what my direct point about the Collaborative Agreement. We can

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 2>support the collaborate agreement, do community policing and at the

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>same time do proactive policing. Those two things are in concert.

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know. I just think that there are

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 2>this mindset where Mayor Purvoal thinks playing to the African

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 2>American community by acting as if the Collaborative Agreement is

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 2>the trump card and not the death of the African

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 2>American men that are being murdered in our streets. The

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>number one issue for our mothers and our grandmothers, and

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:44.879
<v Speaker 2>our uncles and our aunts are the young African American

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 2>men who are being murdered in our streets. That's what

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about. And so what we want are good investigations,

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 2>cold cases, getting after these bad guys, getting them locked up.

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 2>And this is important having judges that have the courage

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 2>to give them the time. We don't want people to

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 2>get eight years. We want them get in prison, right.

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 2>We don't want them to get fifteen years from murdering somebody.

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 2>So we've got to work on these judges like Judge Berkerwitz,

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 2>who's running, who I support. I want to see them

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 2>get reelected. Our judges are important, as you know, our

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>prosecution prosecutors are important, and our cops. Our cops feel

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 2>like they're arresting people, but the judicial system is letting

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>them out. They didn't deal with any of that because

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>the mayor was spending more time in his paths for

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>most likely some type of research that he has done

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 2>that says the more he says Maga, the more it

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 2>boxes in Corey. Here's what I'll say about Corey. Corey

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 2>has a good heart community. He's a good man. He cares,

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 2>he cares right. He's not trying to climb the latter

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 2>trying to go to Washington like our current mayor. So

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 2>we have a decision to make. We can continue to

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 2>do these four years the way we've done it. And

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 2>what blew me away Mike Allan is when he started

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 2>damming John Cranley. He said it was the previous administration.

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 2>They're the reason I'm in this hole that I'm in,

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 2>and which includes Paula Balks Music, who was a great

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 2>city manager. So it was amazing to me that he

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 2>was throwing John Cranley, which would include be the vice

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 2>mayor of John Cranley's under the bus, saying over these

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>four years. The reason he's having so many problems is

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 2>this related to John Cranley in the previous administration. I

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 2>reject that completely. This man has been the mayor for

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 2>four years. Your snow didn't get picked up, not because

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>of John Cranley. Your garbage is that getting picked up,

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 2>not because of John Cranley. Our city is dirty, not

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>because of John Cranley. Our cops aren't out there doing

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 2>not doing proactive policy because of John Cranley. This mayor

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 2>has to own it is administration and that's a problem.

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 3>There's no question about that.

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Also this week the Inquirer Scott Wortman, they released a

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>questionnaire that they sent out about issues with respect to

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the city, crime being the one that they focused on.

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, obviously you're in there too. Did you

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>get a chance to read that, Christopher, And if you did,

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>what are your thoughts in general?

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't, but I can tell you I

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 2>am out even right now, I'm sitting down in one

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 2>of our fifty two neighborhoods and our team were out

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 2>going door to door lit dropping. I haven't talked to

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 2>one person, no matter whether I'm in Hyde Park or

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Mount Adams. These are places I've been, Mount Lookout, Mount Washington, Heartwell, Carthridge,

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 2>bond Hill, Evingston, Roseline, you name it, Mike Allen, everybody's

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about crime. That is what they are concerned about.

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 2>And so with the every time the mayor says it's

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 2>our perception right, it really burns citizens their minds and

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:12.760
<v Speaker 2>their behind. They are very very concerned about the gun violence.

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 2>It seems like every other day there's some type of

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 2>murder and people are very very concerned about it. So

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I haven't read the article, but I would say crime

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 2>is number one. Development is number two. High park issues,

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 2>communities feeling like they're not listening to those are the

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 2>two things that I'm hearing as I'm knocking on doors,

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 2>and they are not happy with the current council. I've

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>never seen more Democrats tell me the Democratic Party has

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 2>left me. I haven't left the Democratic Party. I hear

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 2>this drum beat. So I don't know what's going to

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 2>happen in this election, but I can tell you that

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 2>there are Democrats out there that are not voting down

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 2>this ticket, and I'm trying to educate voters even today,

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm in Heartwell going door to door that they don't

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.720
<v Speaker 2>have to vote for nine people right, that they should

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 2>always go for three or four people in the system.

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Do not vote for nine people for city council. You're

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 2>you're every time you vote for somebody, you're diluting your ballot.

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 2>And the and the Democrats keep trying to sell this,

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 2>this marketing tool to people to hold their power by

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 2>saying making making grandma and grandpa think that they have

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 2>to vote for nine you shouldn't vote for more than

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 2>four or five people, and stop. That's it, period.

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, are people getting that, Christopher, because that's always

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>come up in city council races. I think it flies

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>over people's heads. And I know when you're going door

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to door, I'm sure that's what you're advising people to

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 1>do or suggesting that they do.

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 3>But do people.

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Realize that because that is a powerful tool if it's.

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Used, they're not. And it's because what the Democratic Party

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 2>does is they brand vote for your nine people, and

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.240
<v Speaker 2>they don't understand is up to nine right on your ballot?

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>It says up to nine right, And we lose about

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.399
<v Speaker 2>two or three thousand ballots in these elections because people

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>vote for ten people. That's also very dangerous so I

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 2>would say, you don't want to over vote, and the

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 2>best thing to do is vote for three or four

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 2>or five people. That's what I do. You know, there's

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 2>a pretty big field out there, and there's some good

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 2>people like Liz Keating. I think she's a solid person

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 2>who's running. I'm not a selfish politician, So I like

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 2>to say other people's names that are out there that

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 2>are good. I like a Stephen Goodon. He's running as

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:40.439
<v Speaker 2>a charter right, good guy, smart lawyer. You know, he's

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:44.480
<v Speaker 2>a good person to have community on council that has depth,

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Like you want to elect people that can look at contracts,

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 2>review those contracts, provide that kind of advisement to the

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>other eight members of council. Stephen Goodon is a person

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 2>that can do that and provide that kind of depth.

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:01.359
<v Speaker 2>I would vote for Steven Gooden. Also, like in here

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 2>there's a Linda Matthews. Yes, nice, nice lady, good heart,

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 2>wants to do the right thing. She's also a good

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 2>choice in there. Drea House is running. This is Denise

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Dreehouse is uh brother. He's running. He's a blue dog Democrat,

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>lives over on the good Man lives over on the

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>West side of town. He really wants to impact housing.

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's very concerned about our housing stock and

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 2>how it's uh treated. You've got Lakda Cole out there running.

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 2>And I tell you one of the things I respect

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:37.399
<v Speaker 2>about Lakida Cole is she works hard. I mean her

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 2>her campaign. She's not out there sleep so you know

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 2>she's knocking on doors and her team is working very hard.

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 2>My point in naming these people is that there are

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 2>a slew of candidates that that the public can pick

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 2>from right and and get a get a group of

0:48:54.200 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 2>of broad experiences from different political perspectives, males and female,

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 2>black and white. That we've put together a council that

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 2>has depth and diversity and a mayor that cares and

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:12.359
<v Speaker 2>loves the people that they are serving. That is a

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 2>very important point because when the mayor was asked the

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 2>question have you reached out to the victims and he said,

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't have time. That's not an exaggeration to say that. Again,

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the mayor was asked the question have you reached out

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>to the victims? And the mayor said he didn't have time.

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:32.240
<v Speaker 2>That's a problem community. So you want to elect people

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>with a heart who care about you care about your streets,

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 2>care about your children, care about your community and development,

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 2>care about crime, care about our firefighters. You got to

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 2>have somebody that cares. If you don't, and they're using

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:47.840
<v Speaker 2>us to go to the next level, they'll always be distracted,

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Mike Allant, They'll always be distracted.

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 1>No question about it. Let me ask you this. I

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.240
<v Speaker 1>mean the elections in a little bit over a month.

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I think early voting has started. Am I right about that?

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:02.879
<v Speaker 2>You asked ya I started. I mean that's the mail

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 2>in ballots or life. It's scary. I mean I would

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 2>say we're probably I don't think we've broke two thousand

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:13.399
<v Speaker 2>requests for ballots and we're chasing them. So that's why

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I know the number. I don't think we if we did,

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 2>we just broke it on Friday two thousand. You know

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:23.239
<v Speaker 2>it's a low number. It's concerning and public. There's so

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 2>many registered voters out there. We need you to show

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:30.799
<v Speaker 2>up me your registered to vote. Here's the reality, Mike.

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>About twenty percent of people vote. The other eighty percent

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 2>stay home. So when we're out here knocking on a door,

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.919
<v Speaker 2>we go knock on ten voters. We know that two

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 2>out of the ten are going to vote eight are.

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:47.319
<v Speaker 2>That's a problem if if you want to weigh in community,

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:52.280
<v Speaker 2>you can't not participate in the election. Elections have consequences

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 2>and then be disgrustle about the outcome. So here's my recommendation.

0:50:57.280 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Talk to your mom and dad, your aunts, your uncles,

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 2>off to your children. Make sure that they're getting out

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 2>on November fourth and they are voting. And I'm going

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to tell her. I'm not here to tell them who

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 2>to vote for, other than I'm asking the public to

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 2>capt the vote for Christopher Smitheman. But my point is

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 2>that there are a lot of good candidates that are

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 2>running that are not incumbents, that are not on the

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 2>current council, that you can vote for and get this

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 2>diverse council that Mike Allen, you have the confidence and

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I have the confidence that they're putting us first and

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 2>not all these other distractions like DC. So imagine the

0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:35.799
<v Speaker 2>mayor during that two week period when there was this

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:41.280
<v Speaker 2>ambush in downtown right where the gentleman slaps the African

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 2>American guy. Whatever the words that were said, the N

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 2>word not. There's now this ambush where people are being

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>beat in the middle of the Street. Our mayor didn't

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:54.279
<v Speaker 2>even have the wherewithal to say, I better fly back

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 2>into my city. I'm at this mayor's conference out here.

0:51:57.360 --> 0:52:00.160
<v Speaker 2>I better fly back. No, I'm going to stay here.

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, I'm gonna go and leave

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 2>and go on vacation for another week. He didn't engage

0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 2>that for two weeks, and that was a part of

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the problem. Mike Alla, you know, when there's a void

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 2>in the leadership, you got a vacuum, bad things happened.

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.719
<v Speaker 1>That was incredible, Christopher. Unfortunately, we're out of time. We

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>never have enough time. We'll definitely have you on before

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the election more than once. But appreciate you taking time

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.839
<v Speaker 1>out of your Saturday to talk to us, and.

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Thank you and Mike. People can follow me on social media.

0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 2>It's I'm on one space. It's at vote Smitherman. That's X,

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:35.919
<v Speaker 2>that's at vote Smithman. And the reason I like people

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 2>to follow me there is they can track me for

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 2>my own words. They don't have to listen to the

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:44.879
<v Speaker 2>newspaper or the media stations. They can hear what I'm

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 2>saying directly by following me on EG sounds. Thank you

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 2>so much, Okay, Christopher, thank you God, bless you, man,

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you you.

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Bye bye, bye bye.

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Christopher smitheman, I'm telling you that guy, if

0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:59.879
<v Speaker 1>he gets back on council, he's just not gonna sit

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:03.759
<v Speaker 1>there in a chair and not comment on anything. He's

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 1>going to take the bull by the horns. I really

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:08.719
<v Speaker 1>really hope he cracks it. I think he's got a

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 1>good chance of doing it. Anyway, we got to take

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a break. Button we get back, We're going to talk

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:18.400
<v Speaker 1>to the aforementioned Steve Gooden. Christopher talked about him about

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 1>some legal issues, mainly the sentence, the ridiculous sentence that

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:27.439
<v Speaker 1>was imposed by Judge Boardman on the guy that tried

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh. We're going to talk about some

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.479
<v Speaker 1>political things too. We'll do that when we get back.

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen Saturday Midday. Have you taken your family to dinner?

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Recently?

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Had forty two News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Saturday Midday.

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll tell you, we've been talking about it all morning.

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas also known now as Sasha, decided that she woke

0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:59.400
<v Speaker 1>up or he woke up and wanted to be a woman. Anyway,

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 1>got set Rosky Nicholas Rosscott sentenced to eight years. Government

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>was seeking thirty to life. Here to talk about it

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 1>is Steve Gooden. Steve has done a lot of federal

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:11.919
<v Speaker 1>criminal work and I want to get his take on it.

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Steve, Hello Steve, Good morning, Steve, good morning.

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sorry about that. Your thoughts on my fault, your thoughts.

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 1>On the sentencing, I mean, eight years. I don't think

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that's an appropriate sentence. Government, of course wanted thirty to life.

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts on that.

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 7>Well, it's a travesty and I'll tell you why. And

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 7>it's a bigger deal than just this one judge. I mean,

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 7>we know this judge is Deborah Boardman.

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:45.479
<v Speaker 7>You know sort of has a history of this sort

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:50.280
<v Speaker 7>of thing. And you know, in the federal sentencing world,

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 7>you have to really bend over backwards if you're going

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.359
<v Speaker 7>to depart from the guidelines, and the guidelines here called

0:54:56.400 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 7>for thirty to life, yep. And the prosecutors weren't being unreasonable,

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:02.680
<v Speaker 7>That's just what the federal guidelines were. And if you're

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:04.879
<v Speaker 7>going to depart from that, you have to make these

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:09.959
<v Speaker 7>very very specific factual findings. And the finding she entered

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 7>sounded like.

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:14.239
<v Speaker 5>Out of a rant against the Trump administration and really jumped.

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 7>Into the culture wars. She basically gave this person a

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 7>break for being mentally ill number one, which it sounds

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 7>like most people in these circumstances are, and number two

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.200
<v Speaker 7>because he or she is transgendered. I don't want to

0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:29.560
<v Speaker 7>mess up the pronouns and be insensitive. I don't remember

0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:32.240
<v Speaker 7>which way this particular one goes. I think it's started

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:34.640
<v Speaker 7>as a biological man going to a female.

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and then.

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 7>Also noted that the time, this was the part that

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 7>was so outrageous that her time and his time or

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:45.719
<v Speaker 7>her time in federal prison will be even worse because

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 7>the Trumpet ministration has banned the use of these transgender

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:55.720
<v Speaker 7>procedures in prisons. I mean we used to like actually

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 7>prisoners used to be able to transition while they were

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 7>in federal prison. Is no longer the case. So basically

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:03.839
<v Speaker 7>saying this is going to be even harder on this

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:07.800
<v Speaker 7>person because they can't do this transitioning while in prison,

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 7>and kind of gave her a break there, and I'll

0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:11.960
<v Speaker 7>know it just looked it falls into this whole kind

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 7>of politicization of of the federal system where you really

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 7>didn't for years, the federal system was thought of as

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 7>the place because it has these guidelines that are passed

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 7>by Congress, where it is less political, it's harder to get,

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:27.359
<v Speaker 7>you know, to have partisan politics creeped in. But that's

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.320
<v Speaker 7>really no longer the case. You've got January sixth defendants.

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:33.960
<v Speaker 7>Many of them got twenty plus year sentences. And I'm

0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 7>not saying a lot of those guys should have just walked,

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 7>because I think some of them did some pretty bad things.

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 7>But it was pretty clear there that the judges were

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 7>going upwards to send a message. And now we have

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:45.799
<v Speaker 7>a sitting Supreme Court justice and this person, you know

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:50.680
<v Speaker 7>who very well could have been assassinated. This person traveled

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:55.759
<v Speaker 7>across the country, had burglary tools, had a firearm, and

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:59.279
<v Speaker 7>really got to the threshold of the property. And if

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 7>they head and back out at the last minute, you know,

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 7>we could have had the first sitting Supreme Court justice assassinated,

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:06.799
<v Speaker 7>which is amazing. In two hundred and thirty five years,

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:10.239
<v Speaker 7>we've never had one assassinated. So Kavanaugh could have made

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 7>history in a way he didn't want to. And what

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:14.759
<v Speaker 7>was we saw with Charlie Kirk and other things. These

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 7>individuals are very very much pepable of this kind of violence,

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 7>and this sentence did not reflect that, and it was

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:25.840
<v Speaker 7>just a true shame and it makes people. Things like

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:29.000
<v Speaker 7>this make the average person lose faith in the justice

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 7>system being fair and impartial.

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right about that. The government said they're appealing.

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I've never been involved in, or actually even read any

0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:42.560
<v Speaker 1>cases about appealing a sentence from a federal district court judge.

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 1>How does that work, Steve? Do you know and have

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of it tried or being successful?

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 7>No, I've seen it a couple of different times in

0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 7>my career, and it often is successful. And basically what

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 7>they do is they argue the judge abused his or

0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 7>her discretion in making a departure from the guidelines that

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 7>big and I don't know that the sentence is going

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 7>to hold up, you know. And making it even more

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 7>kind of bizarre, you know, is that the federal district

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:14.520
<v Speaker 7>court judges and appellate court judges have an unusual degree

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 7>of contact with the US Supreme Court. It's kind of

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:18.680
<v Speaker 7>like with the Ohio Supreme Court.

0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 5>The U.

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 7>S Supreme Court actually does have administrative functions and sort

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 7>of oversees these lower courts to a certain degree when

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 7>they're not just ruling on their decisions, but there's personnel

0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:32.640
<v Speaker 7>things and issues like that, so you know, I so

0:58:32.640 --> 0:58:34.880
<v Speaker 7>so you know, she's basically saying, hey to her one

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 7>of her bosses, Hey, I didn't think it was that

0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:40.000
<v Speaker 7>big a deal that this transgender person was trying to

0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:42.320
<v Speaker 7>kill you. So we'll see how see how that goes.

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:45.920
<v Speaker 7>The other question here really is, you know, there are

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 7>a lot of people, and a lot of very smart

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.120
<v Speaker 7>people calling to impeach the judge. You know, it's only

0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:54.040
<v Speaker 7>had about six or seven district court judges impeached over

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:57.440
<v Speaker 7>the years, and it's usually been for something corruption based

0:58:57.520 --> 0:58:58.400
<v Speaker 7>or extraordinary.

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 5>But this one is just so.

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 7>So out there that I wouldn't be too surprised if

0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:06.200
<v Speaker 7>somebody out of the federal society world or something of

0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:09.919
<v Speaker 7>that nature tried to at least make application and try

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 7>to begin that very obscure process to a beach, because

0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 7>it really was a thumb in the eye to the whole,

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 7>to the Supreme Court and to the justice system. And

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:21.320
<v Speaker 7>you know, it's just a strange strength set of facts.

0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 7>The other thing here that's so ugly is that this

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 7>woman there, man, I'm a woman. And I'm not trying

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 7>to be mean. I just keeps hearing it up. This person,

0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 7>this person was motivated about Roe v.

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Wade.

0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:35.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean they it was in that period where, if

0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 7>you recall, the decision had been leaked but not finalized,

0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:42.479
<v Speaker 7>and uh, you know, the court hadn't finally signed off

0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:47.560
<v Speaker 7>on the Dobbs decision, which is essentially overruled Row, and

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:51.240
<v Speaker 7>that was the motivator here, you know, it was to

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 7>somehow try to stop it from becoming final. That's what

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 7>this person told the investigators when when captured. So so

0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 7>that you know, that also adds to this weird element

1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 7>here where it's almost like is the judge sort of,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, implicitly saying that's okay too, because you were

1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:11.120
<v Speaker 7>because this person was motivated, yeah, over these things again

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:14.120
<v Speaker 7>the politics right there. So you know, I do think

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<v Speaker 7>you're going to see some I do think they've got

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<v Speaker 7>a pretty good chance, the prosecutors do, of getting this

1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:22.320
<v Speaker 7>revisited by the appellate court. But I also don't think

1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.520
<v Speaker 7>people are going to be done with miss Judge Boardman.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's going to be a lot of activity

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<v Speaker 7>to try to pull her back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this isn't the only thing with her too.

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<v Speaker 1>I went through it during the ran. We don't have

1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:36.600
<v Speaker 1>time to do it now. But what you said leads

1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:40.600
<v Speaker 1>me to my final question about this. She removed effectively

1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:45.439
<v Speaker 1>the terrorism enhancement to this thing. I think that's how

1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the government got to thirty to life. A couple of

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:54.840
<v Speaker 1>days ago. I looked at the spec the specification, man,

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.280
<v Speaker 1>it sure sounded like it fit to me, because, as

1:00:57.280 --> 1:01:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you just said, he was motivated by the abortion issue, right.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I if trying to assassinate a judge because

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<v Speaker 7>of a ruling that they're about to make, If that

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<v Speaker 7>isn't a form of domestic terrorism, I don't know what is.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you're you're doing so you can do nothing

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<v Speaker 7>more anti democratic and try to assassinate ah, you know,

1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:26.720
<v Speaker 7>a sitting federal official over his or her opinion. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's just a disgusting thing. And if that isn't terrorism,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what it is the dictionary definition.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of disgusting Latsia James indicted on bank fraud and

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<v Speaker 1>making false alarm statements. A lot of talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>one being politically motivated, like all the stuff that was

1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 1>done to Trump, wasn't politically motivated anyway, just in general,

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 7>On that, Yeah, this one, I think it's a little tougher.

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<v Speaker 7>I've read the indictment here, so so to refresh everyone's

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<v Speaker 7>recollect you very briefly, she was the attorney j General

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<v Speaker 7>New Yorkers. He's training general in New York who brought

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<v Speaker 7>the big civil mortgage fraud case against Donald Trump where

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<v Speaker 7>they got the thirty four million dollar verdict and Trump

1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:13.560
<v Speaker 7>was basically accused of inflating his assets to get more

1:02:13.600 --> 1:02:17.920
<v Speaker 7>favorable bank loans. We know, you know from my practice,

1:02:17.960 --> 1:02:20.120
<v Speaker 7>these kinds of things happen all the time, and usually

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<v Speaker 7>as long as the banks are made whole and no

1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:25.440
<v Speaker 7>one defaults on the loans, no one cares. I mean,

1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:29.200
<v Speaker 7>everyone puts their best foot forward when they're presenting their

1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:31.920
<v Speaker 7>their valuations of their properties and so forth to get

1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:34.680
<v Speaker 7>a bank loan, particularly in these big commercial thing deals.

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<v Speaker 7>What Letitia James did, I don't think there's any questions

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<v Speaker 7>she did this was she bought a house for her

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<v Speaker 7>great niece that she's renting to her great niece. She

1:02:44.120 --> 1:02:46.800
<v Speaker 7>paid one hundred and thirty seven dollars or thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 7>for it. In Virginia, and she represented it was going

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<v Speaker 7>to be her residence and of course instead of an

1:02:52.160 --> 1:02:55.840
<v Speaker 7>investment property, which did get her a lower interest rate.

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<v Speaker 7>So basically the same thing she accused Trump of doing,

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<v Speaker 7>but a much, much, much smaller scale. So the hypocrisy

1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:07.840
<v Speaker 7>of it is incredible. It is pretty unusual, though, for

1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:12.520
<v Speaker 7>federal prosecutors to go after a case this small. And

1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:14.800
<v Speaker 7>I've been involved in a couple mortgage fraud cases over

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<v Speaker 7>the years, and usually it is something, you know, they're

1:03:17.480 --> 1:03:21.240
<v Speaker 7>looking at a multi million dollars sort of, you know,

1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:25.280
<v Speaker 7>a commercial situation where the dollars are really big. So

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<v Speaker 7>it does look weird in a lot of ways that

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<v Speaker 7>they're going after an individual, you know, residential property this

1:03:32.720 --> 1:03:35.880
<v Speaker 7>way that I mean, they can, but it does kind

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<v Speaker 7>of contribute to this idea that it's the folks trying

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<v Speaker 7>to who are you know, either in the Justice Department

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<v Speaker 7>or or well, I guess they're all in the Justice

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<v Speaker 7>Department who are kind of trying to even the score here.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm kind of curious what a jury will make

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<v Speaker 7>of all of it. I mean, I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 7>any questions she did what she's accused of doing. It

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<v Speaker 7>is unusual for federal prosecutors to go after something the small.

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<v Speaker 7>They're clearly trying to make an example out of her.

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<v Speaker 7>But I could see a jury looking at the numbers

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<v Speaker 7>here and thinking that it's, you know, maybe not that

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<v Speaker 7>big a deal.

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<v Speaker 5>So, I mean, this.

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<v Speaker 7>One's kind of like with the James Comey situation here,

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<v Speaker 7>where you know, he's accused the line of Congress.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm very curious, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>What kind of case they really have, and I hope

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<v Speaker 7>they've got the goods because otherwise, you know, it will

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<v Speaker 7>be a scenario where where Trump may give away some

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<v Speaker 7>of his moral advantage.

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<v Speaker 5>Here. There's no question that they came after him.

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<v Speaker 7>With things that they shouldn't have, that were politically motivated,

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<v Speaker 7>that they weaponized the justice system. And you know, let's

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<v Speaker 7>hope that this turns out to be I hate to

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<v Speaker 7>say it turns out to be a real crime, and

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<v Speaker 7>that doing the same thing back.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, I got you one final question, and

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<v Speaker 1>he got about thirty seconds from this. I'm sorry the

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<v Speaker 1>statements that she made and I don't have time to

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<v Speaker 1>read them.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just incredible, just real quickly. This is.

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<v Speaker 1>Something from her a tweet from her back in February

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. When powerful people cheat to get better loans,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes at the expense of hardworking people. Everyday Americans

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<v Speaker 1>cannot lie to get a mortgage, and our government would

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<v Speaker 1>throw the book at them. We simply can't hate have

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<v Speaker 1>different rules for different people. My question is this, Will

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<v Speaker 1>the government be able to use those statements in trial

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<v Speaker 1>to show that she's a hypocrite. I know that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a legal type thing, but will they be able to use.

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<v Speaker 7>Those Absolutely they will, And it goes well beyond her

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<v Speaker 7>being a hypocrite, And she is a breeze and hypocrite,

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<v Speaker 7>by the way, And if you could convict someone of that,

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<v Speaker 7>I would, I would absolutely stay it breaking that. But

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<v Speaker 7>what it goes to is under the federal rules, it

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<v Speaker 7>goes to the idea that she knows it's wrong. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, just the idea that she's acknowledged, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the wrongfulness of the conduct. I think is the exact

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<v Speaker 7>phrase that they use. Because a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 7>these mortgage part cases, and I've been involved in a couple. Look,

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<v Speaker 7>the argument is, hey, checked, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, we're out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's also that, uh, I'm gonna have you on soon

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about politics too, because you are the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the Charter Party and we will do that, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even next week.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get with you later in the week.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a good day, man. Thank you you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Steve, good care you too. Hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I am way out of time. Want to thank my

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<v Speaker 1>producer Liam for keeping me out of trouble. I am

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. Will be back next Saturday with full

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