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Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday on a

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Speaker 1: beautiful Saturday morning. Gonna be a great weekend weatherwise. Well,

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Speaker 1: yet another short show today. I am on until eleven

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Speaker 1: and then we turn it over to our coverage of

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Speaker 1: the UC Bearcats four and one. You see Bearcats versus

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Speaker 1: University of Central Florida nights, and I double checked that

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Speaker 1: is at noon, So anyway, I will be out of

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Speaker 1: here at eleven o'clock. Well, I'll tell you last Friday,

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Rosky, who now is Sophie Rosky, was sent eight

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Speaker 1: years in prison for the attempted as assassination of the

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Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court Judge Brett Kavanaugh. He was locked up.

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Speaker 1: Rosky was for about three years before sentencing, so it's

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Speaker 1: credit for that, and they have to give him credit

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Speaker 1: for it. Also, federal inmates they can receive up to

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Speaker 1: fifty four days a year for good time credit if

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Speaker 1: they stay out of trouble while they're in prison. So

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Speaker 1: applying the three year credit for time served and assuming

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Speaker 1: he gets the fifty four days per year of good

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Speaker 1: time credit, mister Rosky will get out sometime in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, which ain't that far away. All that for

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Speaker 1: the attempted assassination of a Supreme Court justice, it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem right.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: A review of the facts of this case, I think

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Speaker 1: would be helpful. And this is from an op ed

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Speaker 1: piece written by Mike Davis. He's with the article three project. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's a review of the facts. Rosky came well prepared

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Speaker 1: to kill Justice Kavanaugh. Among other things, he brought a handgun,

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Speaker 1: souls so he could move about the kavanaughs home more quietly,

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Speaker 1: just as Kavanaugh lives with his wife and two teenage daughters.

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Speaker 1: God forbid, what would have happened had the other Kavanaughs

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Speaker 1: tried to defend him. When Roski arrived, however, he found

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Speaker 1: he could not go through with his plan because law

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Speaker 1: enforcement was outside the Kavanaugh's home, realizing they had seen him.

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Speaker 1: Rossi called nine to one one and claimed to be suicidal,

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Speaker 3: So I want to tell you just briefly.

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Speaker 1: In federal court, in sentencing, they have the Federal Sentencing Guidelines.

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Speaker 1: They are not mandatory, they are advisory. However, how it's important.

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Speaker 1: In federal court, it's a big thing. Most judges usually

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Speaker 1: don't stray too far from what the guidelines dictate and

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Speaker 1: the government. According to the government, the guideline calculation, according

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Speaker 1: to them was thirty years to life. Thirty years to life,

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Speaker 1: and that was the max. As she gave him eight years.

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Speaker 1: And it even gets worse. Okay, so one morning Nicholas

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Speaker 1: woke up and decided he was now Sophie. And the

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Speaker 1: record suggests that Judge Bordman's leniency was influenced, at least

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Speaker 1: in part by ideological sympathy. In her sentencing remarks, she

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Speaker 1: as mitigating factors and mitigating means that's in his favor,

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Speaker 1: the defendant favor, And she actually mentioned President Trump in

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Speaker 1: Trump's executive orders would affect Roski's ability to receive gender

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Speaker 1: transition medical care. However, sincere her concern, the courtroom is

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Speaker 1: not the place for identity based indulgence. A judge's duty

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Speaker 1: the defendant's self expression. And did I mention that, Judge Boardman,

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Speaker 1: are you ready for this was a Biden appointee.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, no surprise there.

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Speaker 1: Let's drilled down on her just a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: Judge Boardman, and what we know about her. In twenty

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court reversed Bowman Boardman by siding with the parents.

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Speaker 1: So the good guys won there in the appeal, okay,

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Speaker 1: the facts of that case. In the case, a group

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Speaker 1: Judge Boorman denied the parents' plainists motion for a preliminary

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Speaker 3: With you, Judge on that.

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Speaker 1: Also in February, Judge Boardman imposed a nationwide preliminary in junction.

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Speaker 1: of Education regarding student loans. But in August, again, thank

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Speaker 1: god for the Court of Appeals, the Fourth District US

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Speaker 1: Court of Appeals vacated that lower court injunction and allowed

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Speaker 3: So, you know, we get her deal.

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Speaker 1: Also, and I don't consider this as too big a deal,

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Speaker 1: She also made modest contribution five hundred bucks to Hillary

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Speaker 1: siding with liberal litigants, it's fair to ask this question.

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Speaker 3: And I'm rolling around in my mind. I think I

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Speaker 3: know what my answer is.

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Speaker 1: But the question, would her sentence have been as lenient

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Speaker 1: if the victims of the attempted assassination were, oh, say,

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Speaker 1: mayor think about that. I kind of think you might

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Speaker 1: have seen a different sentence there. And there's a thing

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Speaker 1: in the criminal justice system that's called deterrence. You know,

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Speaker 1: any first year criminal justice student learns about what deterrence is.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not really in most cases a big proponent

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Speaker 1: of a sentence being a deterrent. In some cases it is,

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Speaker 1: and this is one of them. Let's think about that

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Speaker 1: just for a minute. Deterrence aims to prevent crime in

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Speaker 1: the wider community by making an example of the offender. Now,

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Speaker 1: this offense was a very thorough and well thought out

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Speaker 1: attempt by mister Rossky to kill a Supreme Court justice

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Speaker 3: You know, this wasn't a shooting at three am and

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Speaker 1: This guy, Rosky, he put a lot of thought into this,

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Speaker 3: This guy was rare and to go. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Are others out there with the same demented minds, thinking

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Speaker 1: the same demented things that Rosky thought about. I don't

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Speaker 1: need to tell you what has happened in the not

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Speaker 1: too distance future. Two attempts to assassinate Donald Trump, the

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Speaker 1: of course, sadly, just recently, the assassination of Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 1: if you're one of those persons, or I'm one of

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Speaker 1: those persons, do you think that an eight year sentence

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Speaker 1: an assassination attempt. I don't think so. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Of course it wouldn't. But thirty to life what the

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Speaker 1: sentence should have been. That's a deterrent. And again I

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Speaker 1: usually don't speak about deterrence with respect to criminal sentencing,

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Speaker 1: but in this case, it's different. These people think about it.

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Speaker 1: These people plan these things. You know, it's not a

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Speaker 3: They plan it through.

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Speaker 1: And you know, most of these people are somewhat intelligent.

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Speaker 1: They're twisted, but they're somewhat intelligent. But of course, as

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Speaker 1: that would deter others. And she could have done that

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Speaker 1: and the government you can appeal a sentence in federal court.

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Speaker 1: The government thankfully is appealing that sentence. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about a Supreme Court justice here, and I

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Speaker 1: sentence may be increased. And I'll tell you something, all

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Speaker 1: I've never seen that happen. But in this case, it

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Speaker 1: was so we'll have to see where that goes. But again,

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Speaker 1: she's on the bench up there, and he's all worried about, Oh, well,

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Speaker 1: he may go to a federal prison because of Trump.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to pay for his sex change surgery.

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Speaker 1: He attempted to murder a Supreme Court justice. Do you

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Speaker 1: care about that at all? Well, of course that Supreme

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Speaker 3: But see, that's the thing. And I don't know her,

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Speaker 3: and I only know about her what I just read

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Speaker 3: to you. But that's the thing with these people on

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Speaker 1: They think that they're right, they're righteous, and what they

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Speaker 1: believe just kind of cancels out any other obvious things

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Speaker 1: shocked by it. And by the way, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: ten thirty, and I'm really interested to see what he

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Speaker 1: thinks about it, because he does a lot of federal

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Speaker 1: work too, But eight years, three years for time for

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Speaker 3: He's got to report lifetime.

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Speaker 1: But you know, people don't, people don't follow those things

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Speaker 1: absolute travesty. But no surprise given her pedigree. And I

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Speaker 1: hate to say that, and I don't like criticizing judges,

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Speaker 1: especially federal judges, but I think it's appropriate in this case.

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Speaker 1: This never should have happened, never should have happened. But again,

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Speaker 1: we'll have to see what the appellate court does.

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Speaker 3: You know what I think.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take a short break here and be

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Speaker 1: back if you want to weigh in. Seven four nine,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand, one, eight hundred. The big one are the numbers.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen, Saturday midday.

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Speaker 3: We are back, Mike Allen, Saturday midday.

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Speaker 1: We've just got a couple minutes here before we have

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Speaker 1: to break for the news. I have open lines from

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Speaker 3: The big one are the numbers.

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Speaker 1: If you weigh in those of you that have called

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Speaker 1: and are on hold, I will get you after the news.

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Speaker 1: I promise just a little bit more about this decision,

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Speaker 1: which is just an abomination.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 1: The man is a sitting Supreme Court justice, the highest

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Speaker 1: to in the judiciary. And I've read to you and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot more about his plans. This guy was

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Speaker 4: Can I say goodbye to a feign officer?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: His name is Jeff Wabb But he was a correction

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Just want to let you know I appreciate you my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted him to address that. But that's got

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Speaker 3: That might have you going, I'm good, I'm good.

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Speaker 6: What you got one thing? First thing to begin with,

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Speaker 3: That they're looking good, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: Somebody told me they cracked the top twenty five. I

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Speaker 3: Well, he's cold because he's on at ten thirty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, one, one and one final thing. They got a

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Speaker 2: Somebody gave it to him now.

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Speaker 5: They don't have to earn it, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, And you're right about that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a good thing for the city.

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Speaker 3: And thank you for the call.

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Speaker 5: Rick.

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Speaker 6: They gonna win. They gonna win today, and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm what I'm pulling for real.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's talk to Barry in Miamisburg. Hey, good morning, Barry.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 8: How's it going today.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good. What you got for me?

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Speaker 8: I wanted to talk about something different this week?

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 8: Uh the government shutdown. Yeah, the big beautiful bill made

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Speaker 2: Yep, we need.

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Speaker 8: Real spending cuts, not more spending.

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Speaker 8: That's because a lot of people are listening to the

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 8: But you're stealing money from taxpayers and burning it for corruption,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, And you know, the Republicans contend,

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Speaker 8: Yes, a few of those dollars will be going to

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Speaker 1: Well, I heard just this morning too that thousands of

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Speaker 3: Dose.

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Speaker 1: You don't think the federal government the workforce needed a

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Speaker 8: At this point, well, you know, just pass a clean bill.

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Speaker 8: Stop trying to put stuff that was cut and rightfully

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Speaker 1: Yep, you're right, and I appreciate the call, Barry. We'll

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Speaker 8: Second thing, Okay, my prayers. First caller and his friend. Yes,

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Speaker 1: consideration on that too.

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Speaker 3: Very considerate.

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Speaker 2: I'll have a nice take.

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Speaker 1: Okay you too, Barry. Oh Man, you know you talk

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Speaker 1: about the government shutdown. We just have a few minutes here.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do this last week but didn't have

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Speaker 1: enough time. There is a publication, and as I'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: it's the Babylon Bee, and boy they twist the Libs

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Speaker 1: into circles. Last week they did a really funny piece

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Speaker 1: on the seven most terrifying consequences of a government shutdown.

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Speaker 1: Here are the seven most terrifying, according to the Babylon

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Speaker 1: b I don't really understand this. The Capital Cafeteria will

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Speaker 1: not be able to serve Ted Kruz his customary afternoon

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Speaker 1: ho hos.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Ted Cruz loves hose or not.

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Speaker 1: Number two, the department that you've never heard of that

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Speaker 1: does nothing for you will be furloughed. And they follow

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Speaker 1: that up with you can kiss the Commission on Overseas

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Speaker 1: Native Fisheries goodbye. There's a lot of truth in number two.

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Speaker 1: I think Number three government workers will lose thousands of

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Speaker 1: hours of sleep. They would otherwise be oh man, they

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Speaker 1: would otherwise be getting at work.

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Speaker 3: No one wants to sleep on their own time.

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Speaker 1: Number four, Rand Paul will be intolerably giddy. So you

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Speaker 1: know they're trying to keep this on both sides. I

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Speaker 1: guess I like this one. AOC will have to go

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Speaker 1: back to bartending, but she doesn't know how to make

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Speaker 1: a rum and coke. And they follow that up with, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's a tough recipe. Number six. Instead of shopping online

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Speaker 1: while working from home, government employees will have to shop

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Speaker 1: online while.

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Speaker 3: Furloughed at home.

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Speaker 1: And finally, at number seven, no one will be able

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Speaker 1: to unlock the restrooms at y seventy National Park. It

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Speaker 1: is literally impossible to evacuate your bowels without government support.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's a serious thing, and there probably

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Speaker 1: are some people that are going to get.

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Speaker 3: Hurt by it. I do understand that.

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Speaker 1: And again, I was on the receiving end of one

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Speaker 1: of these things quite a few years ago. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as far as the layoffs that we went through, I

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Speaker 1: went through with the Police Department. I know, I was young.

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Speaker 1: I didn't understand, you know, budget things and all this

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But I did not believe in many

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Speaker 1: of my friends who were on the police department, we

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Speaker 1: were police cadets at time, didn't believe that this was

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Speaker 1: going to happen. I mean, really, it's like, how can

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Speaker 1: they do this?

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Speaker 3: They can't do.

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Speaker 1: This too as well, they can and they did. I

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Speaker 1: got back on the department in nineteen seventy nine. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was they finally got some money. What happened

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Speaker 1: with us was there was a thing called the l

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Speaker 1: EAA Law Enforcement Assistance Administration. It was created by President

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Speaker 1: Nixon that poured millions of dollars into federal aid for

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Speaker 1: police departments. That was what paid us our salaries as

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Speaker 1: police cadets. Well, that money ran out, and boom, we

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Speaker 1: were gone. It's a tough thing to take, but you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes things have to happen, and you know, to me,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna I don't think we're gonna see any

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Speaker 1: serious consequences of paring down the federal government so much.

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Speaker 1: I guess, you know, time will tell on all of that.

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Speaker 1: But those are kind of funny from the Babylon b

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Speaker 1: you know. Getting back to the thing with Justice Kavanaugh

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Speaker 1: and the assassination attempt, one of the other things that

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Speaker 1: Judge Boardman took into consideration, which she is allowed to do,

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Speaker 1: is the fact that he abandoned his criminal intent, which

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Speaker 1: he did apparently if the facts that I have read

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Speaker 1: are true, and a judge can consider that. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you read the opinion, she makes it a real

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Speaker 1: big deal, like, well, that's the main thing I'm taking

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Speaker 1: into consideration. That was not the main thing. The main

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Speaker 1: thing she was taking into consideration was the fact that,

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Speaker 1: then God, for Donald Trump, there's an executive order prohibiting

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Speaker 1: the full I don't even know what they call it anymore,

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Speaker 1: and I don't really care, you know, the full sex

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Speaker 1: change thing. But they're still doing things that are costing

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Speaker 1: you and I in federal prisons, in the Bureau of

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Speaker 1: Prisons to kind of make these people that don't know

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Speaker 1: what sex they are feel a little bit more comfortable.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you make jail a terrible place,

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Speaker 1: but my god, once again, once again you got the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: and you got them, and they're all concerned about these things.

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Speaker 1: And at some point you just have to wonder, when

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Speaker 1: are the people going to matter, the American people.

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Speaker 3: You know, you hear some of these people too.

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Speaker 1: They'll talk about illegal immigrants, and they'll say they won't

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Speaker 1: refer to them as that. They'll say residents of the

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Speaker 1: state of Illinois, residents of the state of California, and

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Speaker 1: that is their legal status. Well, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's their legal status it's their practical status. They're not citizens,

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Speaker 1: their residents. And again I'm not saying you go take

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Speaker 1: them and throw them in federal prison forever. However, when

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Speaker 1: it comes down to helping Americans as opposed to helping

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, I know where I fall on that one,

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Speaker 1: and I read some things a while back. I should

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Speaker 1: have probably drilled down on them where the Bureau of

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Speaker 1: Prisons is having one hell of a time dealing with

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Speaker 1: these trans issues in the various prisons.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 1: You got a guy, I mean, take this guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: he wakes up in the morning and say, gee, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm a girl. So we all got to by

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Speaker 1: we I mean the taxpayers. We have to jump through hoops,

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Speaker 1: spend all this money because of this. And again I'm

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Speaker 1: not advocating that you are cruel to these people. You're

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Speaker 1: mean to these people that you know you do bad

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Speaker 1: things to them. However, I think you do, or you

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Speaker 1: should take into consideration. They are point zero five percent

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Speaker 1: of the population. Point zero five percent of the population.

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Speaker 1: That's got a factor into this somehow. Anyway, we got

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Speaker 1: to take a break for the news, but when we

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Speaker 1: get back, we're gonna back in with our friend Christopher Smithman.

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Speaker 1: Lots going on on the city council race, mayor's debate

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Speaker 1: they had this week. I'm going to talk to Christopher

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Speaker 1: about that, and we'll do that when we get back.

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Speaker 3: Video seven hundred WLW Mike.

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Speaker 1: Gallan AM Hour two Today is the second and final

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Speaker 1: hour of Saturday Midday. Yet another short show because of

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Speaker 1: the University of Cincinnati University of Central Florida football game,

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Speaker 1: which begins at noon. Our coverage begins at eleven after

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Speaker 1: I vacate the premises here.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what. There was a lively.

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Speaker 1: Debate mayor's candidate debate Thursday night, sponsored by The Inquirer

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Speaker 1: and Xavier University. Lots of talk about the collaborative agreement,

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00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, with Pureval. A lot of it was, you know, Trump, Trump, Trump.

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Speaker 1: He would not this one of my takeaway, he would

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Speaker 1: not rule out a tax increase. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: something of some significance. Here to talk about it is

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Speaker 1: Christopher Smitheman, former Vice mayor, former Law and Public Safety chair,

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Speaker 1: and current financial advisor extraordinaire.

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Speaker 3: Christopher, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good, Mike. Thanks for having me on My

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Speaker 2: pleasure I definitely watch, Yeah, but I definitely watched the debate.

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Speaker 2: You know what happens is, you know, candidates go out

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Speaker 2: and they poll things the public doesn't understand, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: a candidate goes out, they do a poll and they're

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out what type of negative ad they

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Speaker 2: can run that would move the needle for them to

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Speaker 2: win the race. And clearly this mayor believes saying things

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Speaker 2: about Trump are talking about MAGA during a local election

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Speaker 2: which has nothing to do with Trump and nothing about

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Speaker 2: Maga right, will help will help drive voters away from

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Speaker 2: Corey Bowman. So that that's really why he kept coming

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Speaker 2: back to it. He's done a poll out there. The

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Speaker 2: taps say the more he says that, the worse it

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Speaker 2: is for Corey. And that's why they always say, this

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Speaker 2: is Corey Bowman, the brother of the vice president, right me,

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Speaker 2: They don't introduce me that way. They don't go Christopher Smitheman,

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Speaker 2: the brother of Herbs Smith or James Smith. Aman are

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00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: Albert smithmen? Right? That's that's a strategy on his part,

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Speaker 2: and the problem with it is it distracts us, which

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Speaker 2: is his goal. The mayor's goal, current mayor's goal, distracts

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Speaker 2: us from the real problems that we've got to solve,

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Speaker 2: and number one is crime. I was just disappointed that

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Speaker 2: the lead question was from the Inquirer, crime is down.

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Speaker 2: This is your there. They're absolutely did wrong about that.

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Speaker 2: And just as you're going into it, Mike, to that debate,

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Speaker 2: there was a shooting down at Fountain Square, and so

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Speaker 2: you and I have lived long enough to see that.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're seeing spikes and crime in downtown, and

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Speaker 2: then you see it spreading out into the other fifty

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Speaker 2: one neighborhood, and that's an indication that we're not headed

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Speaker 2: in the right direction. And my last comment about it

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Speaker 2: is the mayor was very disingenuous, and I want to

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Speaker 2: hone in on this because you heard him speaking a

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Speaker 2: lot about the police and how he supported him. But

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Speaker 2: the clear message from the FOP, which you've been endorsed

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Speaker 2: by and I've been endorsed by, they have taken a

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Speaker 2: no confidence vote in this mayor. So if you don't

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Speaker 2: know that, he send me up there saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: the police and I have a great relationship. We're doing great.

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Speaker 2: Everything is wonderful. But he's the clarity. Was it okay?

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Speaker 2: What the FOP has taken a no confidence voting you.

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Speaker 2: And if I was looking for the moderator and the inquirer,

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Speaker 2: listen to this, ask him that question. Meaning the number

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Speaker 2: one issue on people's mind is crime. You would think

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Speaker 2: a question would be why do you believe the Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Police depart took a no confidence vote in your leadership? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but that question wasn't asked of him, right, And so

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Speaker 2: people have to understand that we've got to focus on

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Speaker 2: this crime that's going on. And Holly was there in

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Speaker 2: the front row. Ronda Win, whose daughter Cassandra Wynn was

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Speaker 2: murdered in OTR shot in the back, five children, She

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Speaker 2: was there in the front row. And I would say

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Speaker 2: that I was looking for the mayor to say, listen,

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Speaker 2: I see you, Holly, I see you, Ronda Win mother.

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Speaker 2: I am so sorry about you being beat up and punched.

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Speaker 2: You didn't deserve that. And Ronda Whin, the burying of

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Speaker 2: a child has got to be the worst case scenario

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Speaker 2: for any parent. We extend our deepest condolences to you.

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Speaker 2: The government failed to provide that protection and we're so sorry. Hey,

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Speaker 2: guess what, we still have an arrest that the bad

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Speaker 2: guy who did it we're still searching and wanting that

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Speaker 2: arrest and committing himself in that debate to finding the

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Speaker 2: per who killed Cassandra Win. That's what I was looking

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Speaker 2: for from the mayor. I didn't hear any of that.

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Speaker 1: No, he didn't say anything like that. The Inquirer is reporting, Christopher.

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Speaker 1: The candidates clashed over crime, with pure of All defending

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Speaker 1: the city's collaborative Agreement and Bowman claiming it was being

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Speaker 1: weaponized against police. Where do you come down on the

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Speaker 1: collaborative Agreement?

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Speaker 2: Well, the Collaborative Agreement is a historic document that we

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Speaker 2: all should be very proud of. But we're no longer

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Speaker 2: under federal oversight. That's a very important statement. Right. Paul

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Speaker 2: Green has come in, he's done his job. We've done

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Speaker 2: a refresh. This Cincinnati Police Department has turned itself around,

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Speaker 2: and we now are a model for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the country to see and witness, and we should be

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Speaker 2: proud of that, right. But I don't even want this

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Speaker 2: pseudo with that our officers to feel like they're under

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Speaker 2: some federal oversight because we're hiring consultants that think they

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Speaker 2: can go out and intervene directly in police business. Here's

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Speaker 2: what my direct point about the Collaborative Agreement. We can

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Speaker 2: support the collaborate agreement, do community policing and at the

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Speaker 2: same time do proactive policing. Those two things are in concert.

654
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I just think that there are

655
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: this mindset where Mayor Purvoal thinks playing to the African

656
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: American community by acting as if the Collaborative Agreement is

657
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: the trump card and not the death of the African

658
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: American men that are being murdered in our streets. The

659
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: number one issue for our mothers and our grandmothers, and

660
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: our uncles and our aunts are the young African American

661
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: men who are being murdered in our streets. That's what

662
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: they're talking about. And so what we want are good investigations,

663
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: cold cases, getting after these bad guys, getting them locked up.

664
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Speaker 2: And this is important having judges that have the courage

665
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: to give them the time. We don't want people to

666
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: get eight years. We want them get in prison, right.

667
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: We don't want them to get fifteen years from murdering somebody.

668
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: So we've got to work on these judges like Judge Berkerwitz,

669
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: who's running, who I support. I want to see them

670
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: get reelected. Our judges are important, as you know, our

671
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: prosecution prosecutors are important, and our cops. Our cops feel

672
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 2: like they're arresting people, but the judicial system is letting

673
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: them out. They didn't deal with any of that because

674
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: the mayor was spending more time in his paths for

675
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: most likely some type of research that he has done

676
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: that says the more he says Maga, the more it

677
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: boxes in Corey. Here's what I'll say about Corey. Corey

678
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: has a good heart community. He's a good man. He cares,

679
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: he cares right. He's not trying to climb the latter

680
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: trying to go to Washington like our current mayor. So

681
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: we have a decision to make. We can continue to

682
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: do these four years the way we've done it. And

683
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: what blew me away Mike Allan is when he started

684
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: damming John Cranley. He said it was the previous administration.

685
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: They're the reason I'm in this hole that I'm in,

686
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: and which includes Paula Balks Music, who was a great

687
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: city manager. So it was amazing to me that he

688
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: was throwing John Cranley, which would include be the vice

689
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: mayor of John Cranley's under the bus, saying over these

690
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: four years. The reason he's having so many problems is

691
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: this related to John Cranley in the previous administration. I

692
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: reject that completely. This man has been the mayor for

693
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: four years. Your snow didn't get picked up, not because

694
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: of John Cranley. Your garbage is that getting picked up,

695
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: not because of John Cranley. Our city is dirty, not

696
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: because of John Cranley. Our cops aren't out there doing

697
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: not doing proactive policy because of John Cranley. This mayor

698
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: has to own it is administration and that's a problem.

699
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: There's no question about that.

700
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: Also this week the Inquirer Scott Wortman, they released a

701
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: questionnaire that they sent out about issues with respect to

702
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: the city, crime being the one that they focused on.

703
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously you're in there too. Did you

704
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: get a chance to read that, Christopher, And if you did,

705
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts in general?

706
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't, but I can tell you I

707
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: am out even right now, I'm sitting down in one

708
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: of our fifty two neighborhoods and our team were out

709
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: going door to door lit dropping. I haven't talked to

710
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: one person, no matter whether I'm in Hyde Park or

711
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: Mount Adams. These are places I've been, Mount Lookout, Mount Washington, Heartwell, Carthridge,

712
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: bond Hill, Evingston, Roseline, you name it, Mike Allen, everybody's

713
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: talking about crime. That is what they are concerned about.

714
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: And so with the every time the mayor says it's

715
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: our perception right, it really burns citizens their minds and

716
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 2: their behind. They are very very concerned about the gun violence.

717
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: It seems like every other day there's some type of

718
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: murder and people are very very concerned about it. So

719
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: I haven't read the article, but I would say crime

720
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: is number one. Development is number two. High park issues,

721
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: communities feeling like they're not listening to those are the

722
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: two things that I'm hearing as I'm knocking on doors,

723
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: and they are not happy with the current council. I've

724
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: never seen more Democrats tell me the Democratic Party has

725
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: left me. I haven't left the Democratic Party. I hear

726
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: this drum beat. So I don't know what's going to

727
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: happen in this election, but I can tell you that

728
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: there are Democrats out there that are not voting down

729
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: this ticket, and I'm trying to educate voters even today,

730
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: I'm in Heartwell going door to door that they don't

731
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 2: have to vote for nine people right, that they should

732
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: always go for three or four people in the system.

733
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: Do not vote for nine people for city council. You're

734
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: you're every time you vote for somebody, you're diluting your ballot.

735
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: And the and the Democrats keep trying to sell this,

736
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: this marketing tool to people to hold their power by

737
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: saying making making grandma and grandpa think that they have

738
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: to vote for nine you shouldn't vote for more than

739
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: four or five people, and stop. That's it, period.

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00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: You know, are people getting that, Christopher, because that's always

741
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: come up in city council races. I think it flies

742
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: over people's heads. And I know when you're going door

743
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: to door, I'm sure that's what you're advising people to

744
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: do or suggesting that they do.

745
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: But do people.

746
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: Realize that because that is a powerful tool if it's.

747
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: Used, they're not. And it's because what the Democratic Party

748
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: does is they brand vote for your nine people, and

749
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: they don't understand is up to nine right on your ballot?

750
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: It says up to nine right, And we lose about

751
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: two or three thousand ballots in these elections because people

752
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: vote for ten people. That's also very dangerous so I

753
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: would say, you don't want to over vote, and the

754
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: best thing to do is vote for three or four

755
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: or five people. That's what I do. You know, there's

756
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: a pretty big field out there, and there's some good

757
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: people like Liz Keating. I think she's a solid person

758
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: who's running. I'm not a selfish politician, So I like

759
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: to say other people's names that are out there that

760
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: are good. I like a Stephen Goodon. He's running as

761
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: a charter right, good guy, smart lawyer. You know, he's

762
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: a good person to have community on council that has depth,

763
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: Like you want to elect people that can look at contracts,

764
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: review those contracts, provide that kind of advisement to the

765
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: other eight members of council. Stephen Goodon is a person

766
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 2: that can do that and provide that kind of depth.

767
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: I would vote for Steven Gooden. Also, like in here

768
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: there's a Linda Matthews. Yes, nice, nice lady, good heart,

769
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: wants to do the right thing. She's also a good

770
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: choice in there. Drea House is running. This is Denise

771
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: Dreehouse is uh brother. He's running. He's a blue dog Democrat,

772
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: lives over on the good Man lives over on the

773
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: West side of town. He really wants to impact housing.

774
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's very concerned about our housing stock and

775
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: how it's uh treated. You've got Lakda Cole out there running.

776
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: And I tell you one of the things I respect

777
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 2: about Lakida Cole is she works hard. I mean her

778
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: her campaign. She's not out there sleep so you know

779
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: she's knocking on doors and her team is working very hard.

780
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: My point in naming these people is that there are

781
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: a slew of candidates that that the public can pick

782
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: from right and and get a get a group of

783
00:48:54,200 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: of broad experiences from different political perspectives, males and female,

784
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: black and white. That we've put together a council that

785
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: has depth and diversity and a mayor that cares and

786
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: loves the people that they are serving. That is a

787
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: very important point because when the mayor was asked the

788
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: question have you reached out to the victims and he said,

789
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: I don't have time. That's not an exaggeration to say that. Again,

790
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: the mayor was asked the question have you reached out

791
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: to the victims? And the mayor said he didn't have time.

792
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 2: That's a problem community. So you want to elect people

793
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: with a heart who care about you care about your streets,

794
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: care about your children, care about your community and development,

795
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: care about crime, care about our firefighters. You got to

796
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: have somebody that cares. If you don't, and they're using

797
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: us to go to the next level, they'll always be distracted,

798
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: Mike Allant, They'll always be distracted.

799
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: No question about it. Let me ask you this. I

800
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: mean the elections in a little bit over a month.

801
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: I think early voting has started. Am I right about that?

802
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: You asked ya I started. I mean that's the mail

803
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: in ballots or life. It's scary. I mean I would

804
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: say we're probably I don't think we've broke two thousand

805
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 2: requests for ballots and we're chasing them. So that's why

806
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: I know the number. I don't think we if we did,

807
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: we just broke it on Friday two thousand. You know

808
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: it's a low number. It's concerning and public. There's so

809
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: many registered voters out there. We need you to show

810
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 2: up me your registered to vote. Here's the reality, Mike.

811
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: About twenty percent of people vote. The other eighty percent

812
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: stay home. So when we're out here knocking on a door,

813
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 2: we go knock on ten voters. We know that two

814
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: out of the ten are going to vote eight are.

815
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: That's a problem if if you want to weigh in community,

816
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: you can't not participate in the election. Elections have consequences

817
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: and then be disgrustle about the outcome. So here's my recommendation.

818
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: Talk to your mom and dad, your aunts, your uncles,

819
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: off to your children. Make sure that they're getting out

820
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: on November fourth and they are voting. And I'm going

821
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: to tell her. I'm not here to tell them who

822
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: to vote for, other than I'm asking the public to

823
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: capt the vote for Christopher Smitheman. But my point is

824
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: that there are a lot of good candidates that are

825
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: running that are not incumbents, that are not on the

826
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: current council, that you can vote for and get this

827
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: diverse council that Mike Allen, you have the confidence and

828
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: I have the confidence that they're putting us first and

829
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: not all these other distractions like DC. So imagine the

830
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: mayor during that two week period when there was this

831
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 2: ambush in downtown right where the gentleman slaps the African

832
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: American guy. Whatever the words that were said, the N

833
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: word not. There's now this ambush where people are being

834
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: beat in the middle of the Street. Our mayor didn't

835
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: even have the wherewithal to say, I better fly back

836
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: into my city. I'm at this mayor's conference out here.

837
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: I better fly back. No, I'm going to stay here.

838
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'm gonna go and leave

839
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: and go on vacation for another week. He didn't engage

840
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: that for two weeks, and that was a part of

841
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: the problem. Mike Alla, you know, when there's a void

842
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: in the leadership, you got a vacuum, bad things happened.

843
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: That was incredible, Christopher. Unfortunately, we're out of time. We

844
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: never have enough time. We'll definitely have you on before

845
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: the election more than once. But appreciate you taking time

846
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: out of your Saturday to talk to us, and.

847
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: Thank you and Mike. People can follow me on social media.

848
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: It's I'm on one space. It's at vote Smitherman. That's X,

849
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 2: that's at vote Smithman. And the reason I like people

850
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: to follow me there is they can track me for

851
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: my own words. They don't have to listen to the

852
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 2: newspaper or the media stations. They can hear what I'm

853
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: saying directly by following me on EG sounds. Thank you

854
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: so much, Okay, Christopher, thank you God, bless you, man,

855
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: Thank you you.

856
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 3: Bye bye, bye bye.

857
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: All Right, Christopher smitheman, I'm telling you that guy, if

858
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: he gets back on council, he's just not gonna sit

859
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: there in a chair and not comment on anything. He's

860
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: going to take the bull by the horns. I really

861
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: really hope he cracks it. I think he's got a

862
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: good chance of doing it. Anyway, we got to take

863
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: a break. Button we get back, We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to the aforementioned Steve Gooden. Christopher talked about him about

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Speaker 1: some legal issues, mainly the sentence, the ridiculous sentence that

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Speaker 1: was imposed by Judge Boardman on the guy that tried

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Speaker 1: to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh. We're going to talk about some

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Speaker 1: political things too. We'll do that when we get back.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen Saturday Midday. Have you taken your family to dinner?

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Speaker 3: Recently?

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Speaker 1: Had forty two News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen

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Speaker 1: Saturday Midday.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you, we've been talking about it all morning.

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Speaker 1: Nicholas also known now as Sasha, decided that she woke

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Speaker 1: up or he woke up and wanted to be a woman. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: got set Rosky Nicholas Rosscott sentenced to eight years. Government

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Speaker 1: was seeking thirty to life. Here to talk about it

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Speaker 1: is Steve Gooden. Steve has done a lot of federal

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Speaker 1: criminal work and I want to get his take on it.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Steve, Hello Steve, Good morning, Steve, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry about that. Your thoughts on my fault, your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: On the sentencing, I mean, eight years. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's an appropriate sentence. Government, of course wanted thirty to life.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's a travesty and I'll tell you why. And

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Speaker 7: it's a bigger deal than just this one judge. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we know this judge is Deborah Boardman.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 7: You know sort of has a history of this sort

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Speaker 7: of thing. And you know, in the federal sentencing world,

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Speaker 7: you have to really bend over backwards if you're going

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Speaker 7: to depart from the guidelines, and the guidelines here called

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Speaker 7: for thirty to life, yep. And the prosecutors weren't being unreasonable,

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Speaker 7: That's just what the federal guidelines were. And if you're

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Speaker 7: going to depart from that, you have to make these

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Speaker 7: very very specific factual findings. And the finding she entered

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Speaker 7: sounded like.

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Speaker 5: Out of a rant against the Trump administration and really jumped.

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Speaker 7: Into the culture wars. She basically gave this person a

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Speaker 7: break for being mentally ill number one, which it sounds

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Speaker 7: like most people in these circumstances are, and number two

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Speaker 7: because he or she is transgendered. I don't want to

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Speaker 7: mess up the pronouns and be insensitive. I don't remember

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Speaker 7: which way this particular one goes. I think it's started

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Speaker 7: as a biological man going to a female.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and then.

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Speaker 7: Also noted that the time, this was the part that

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Speaker 7: was so outrageous that her time and his time or

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Speaker 7: her time in federal prison will be even worse because

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Speaker 7: the Trumpet ministration has banned the use of these transgender

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Speaker 7: procedures in prisons. I mean we used to like actually

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Speaker 7: prisoners used to be able to transition while they were

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Speaker 7: in federal prison. Is no longer the case. So basically

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Speaker 7: saying this is going to be even harder on this

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Speaker 7: person because they can't do this transitioning while in prison,

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Speaker 7: and kind of gave her a break there, and I'll

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Speaker 7: know it just looked it falls into this whole kind

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Speaker 7: of politicization of of the federal system where you really

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Speaker 7: didn't for years, the federal system was thought of as

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Speaker 7: the place because it has these guidelines that are passed

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Speaker 7: by Congress, where it is less political, it's harder to get,

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Speaker 7: you know, to have partisan politics creeped in. But that's

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Speaker 7: really no longer the case. You've got January sixth defendants.

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Speaker 7: Many of them got twenty plus year sentences. And I'm

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Speaker 7: not saying a lot of those guys should have just walked,

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Speaker 7: because I think some of them did some pretty bad things.

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Speaker 7: But it was pretty clear there that the judges were

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Speaker 7: going upwards to send a message. And now we have

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Speaker 7: a sitting Supreme Court justice and this person, you know

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Speaker 7: who very well could have been assassinated. This person traveled

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Speaker 7: across the country, had burglary tools, had a firearm, and

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Speaker 7: really got to the threshold of the property. And if

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Speaker 7: they head and back out at the last minute, you know,

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Speaker 7: we could have had the first sitting Supreme Court justice assassinated,

935
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Speaker 7: which is amazing. In two hundred and thirty five years,

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Speaker 7: we've never had one assassinated. So Kavanaugh could have made

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Speaker 7: history in a way he didn't want to. And what

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Speaker 7: was we saw with Charlie Kirk and other things. These

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Speaker 7: individuals are very very much pepable of this kind of violence,

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Speaker 7: and this sentence did not reflect that, and it was

941
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Speaker 7: just a true shame and it makes people. Things like

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Speaker 7: this make the average person lose faith in the justice

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Speaker 7: system being fair and impartial.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about that. The government said they're appealing.

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Speaker 1: I've never been involved in, or actually even read any

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Speaker 1: cases about appealing a sentence from a federal district court judge.

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Speaker 1: How does that work, Steve? Do you know and have

948
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Speaker 1: you ever heard of it tried or being successful?

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Speaker 7: No, I've seen it a couple of different times in

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Speaker 7: my career, and it often is successful. And basically what

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Speaker 7: they do is they argue the judge abused his or

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Speaker 7: her discretion in making a departure from the guidelines that

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Speaker 7: big and I don't know that the sentence is going

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Speaker 7: to hold up, you know. And making it even more

955
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Speaker 7: kind of bizarre, you know, is that the federal district

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Speaker 7: court judges and appellate court judges have an unusual degree

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Speaker 7: of contact with the US Supreme Court. It's kind of

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Speaker 7: like with the Ohio Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: The U.

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Speaker 7: S Supreme Court actually does have administrative functions and sort

962
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Speaker 7: of oversees these lower courts to a certain degree when

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Speaker 7: they're not just ruling on their decisions, but there's personnel

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Speaker 7: things and issues like that, so you know, I so

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Speaker 7: so you know, she's basically saying, hey to her one

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Speaker 7: of her bosses, Hey, I didn't think it was that

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Speaker 7: big a deal that this transgender person was trying to

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Speaker 7: kill you. So we'll see how see how that goes.

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Speaker 7: The other question here really is, you know, there are

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Speaker 7: a lot of people, and a lot of very smart

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Speaker 7: people calling to impeach the judge. You know, it's only

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Speaker 7: had about six or seven district court judges impeached over

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Speaker 7: the years, and it's usually been for something corruption based

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Speaker 7: or extraordinary.

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Speaker 5: But this one is just so.

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Speaker 7: So out there that I wouldn't be too surprised if

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Speaker 7: somebody out of the federal society world or something of

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Speaker 7: that nature tried to at least make application and try

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Speaker 7: to begin that very obscure process to a beach, because

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Speaker 7: it really was a thumb in the eye to the whole,

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Speaker 7: to the Supreme Court and to the justice system. And

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Speaker 7: you know, it's just a strange strength set of facts.

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Speaker 7: The other thing here that's so ugly is that this

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Speaker 7: woman there, man, I'm a woman. And I'm not trying

985
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Speaker 7: to be mean. I just keeps hearing it up. This person,

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Speaker 7: this person was motivated about Roe v.

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Speaker 2: Wade.

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Speaker 7: I mean they it was in that period where, if

989
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Speaker 7: you recall, the decision had been leaked but not finalized,

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Speaker 7: and uh, you know, the court hadn't finally signed off

991
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Speaker 7: on the Dobbs decision, which is essentially overruled Row, and

992
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Speaker 7: that was the motivator here, you know, it was to

993
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Speaker 7: somehow try to stop it from becoming final. That's what

994
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Speaker 7: this person told the investigators when when captured. So so

995
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Speaker 7: that you know, that also adds to this weird element

996
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Speaker 7: here where it's almost like is the judge sort of,

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Speaker 7: you know, implicitly saying that's okay too, because you were

998
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Speaker 7: because this person was motivated, yeah, over these things again

999
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Speaker 7: the politics right there. So you know, I do think

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Speaker 7: you're going to see some I do think they've got

1001
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Speaker 7: a pretty good chance, the prosecutors do, of getting this

1002
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Speaker 7: revisited by the appellate court. But I also don't think

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Speaker 7: people are going to be done with miss Judge Boardman.

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Speaker 7: I think there's going to be a lot of activity

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Speaker 7: to try to pull her back.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this isn't the only thing with her too.

1007
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: I went through it during the ran. We don't have

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Speaker 1: time to do it now. But what you said leads

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Speaker 1: me to my final question about this. She removed effectively

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Speaker 1: the terrorism enhancement to this thing. I think that's how

1011
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: the government got to thirty to life. A couple of

1012
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Speaker 1: days ago. I looked at the spec the specification, man,

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Speaker 1: it sure sounded like it fit to me, because, as

1014
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Speaker 1: you just said, he was motivated by the abortion issue, right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I if trying to assassinate a judge because

1016
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Speaker 7: of a ruling that they're about to make, If that

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Speaker 7: isn't a form of domestic terrorism, I don't know what is.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you're you're doing so you can do nothing

1019
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 7: more anti democratic and try to assassinate ah, you know,

1020
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Speaker 7: a sitting federal official over his or her opinion. I mean,

1021
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 7: it's it's just a disgusting thing. And if that isn't terrorism,

1022
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Speaker 7: I don't know what it is the dictionary definition.

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01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of disgusting Latsia James indicted on bank fraud and

1024
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: making false alarm statements. A lot of talk about this

1025
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Speaker 1: one being politically motivated, like all the stuff that was

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Speaker 1: done to Trump, wasn't politically motivated anyway, just in general,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts.

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Speaker 7: On that, Yeah, this one, I think it's a little tougher.

1029
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 7: I've read the indictment here, so so to refresh everyone's

1030
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Speaker 7: recollect you very briefly, she was the attorney j General

1031
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Speaker 7: New Yorkers. He's training general in New York who brought

1032
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Speaker 7: the big civil mortgage fraud case against Donald Trump where

1033
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Speaker 7: they got the thirty four million dollar verdict and Trump

1034
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 7: was basically accused of inflating his assets to get more

1035
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 7: favorable bank loans. We know, you know from my practice,

1036
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Speaker 7: these kinds of things happen all the time, and usually

1037
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Speaker 7: as long as the banks are made whole and no

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Speaker 7: one defaults on the loans, no one cares. I mean,

1039
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Speaker 7: everyone puts their best foot forward when they're presenting their

1040
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Speaker 7: their valuations of their properties and so forth to get

1041
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Speaker 7: a bank loan, particularly in these big commercial thing deals.

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Speaker 7: What Letitia James did, I don't think there's any questions

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Speaker 7: she did this was she bought a house for her

1044
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Speaker 7: great niece that she's renting to her great niece. She

1045
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Speaker 7: paid one hundred and thirty seven dollars or thousand dollars

1046
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Speaker 7: for it. In Virginia, and she represented it was going

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Speaker 7: to be her residence and of course instead of an

1048
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Speaker 7: investment property, which did get her a lower interest rate.

1049
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Speaker 7: So basically the same thing she accused Trump of doing,

1050
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Speaker 7: but a much, much, much smaller scale. So the hypocrisy

1051
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Speaker 7: of it is incredible. It is pretty unusual, though, for

1052
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Speaker 7: federal prosecutors to go after a case this small. And

1053
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Speaker 7: I've been involved in a couple mortgage fraud cases over

1054
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Speaker 7: the years, and usually it is something, you know, they're

1055
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Speaker 7: looking at a multi million dollars sort of, you know,

1056
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Speaker 7: a commercial situation where the dollars are really big. So

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Speaker 7: it does look weird in a lot of ways that

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Speaker 7: they're going after an individual, you know, residential property this

1059
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Speaker 7: way that I mean, they can, but it does kind

1060
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Speaker 7: of contribute to this idea that it's the folks trying

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Speaker 7: to who are you know, either in the Justice Department

1062
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Speaker 7: or or well, I guess they're all in the Justice

1063
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Speaker 7: Department who are kind of trying to even the score here.

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Speaker 7: So I'm kind of curious what a jury will make

1065
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Speaker 7: of all of it. I mean, I don't think there's

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Speaker 7: any questions she did what she's accused of doing. It

1067
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Speaker 7: is unusual for federal prosecutors to go after something the small.

1068
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Speaker 7: They're clearly trying to make an example out of her.

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Speaker 7: But I could see a jury looking at the numbers

1070
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Speaker 7: here and thinking that it's, you know, maybe not that

1071
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Speaker 7: big a deal.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, this.

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Speaker 7: One's kind of like with the James Comey situation here,

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Speaker 7: where you know, he's accused the line of Congress.

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Speaker 5: I'm very curious, you know.

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Speaker 7: What kind of case they really have, and I hope

1077
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Speaker 7: they've got the goods because otherwise, you know, it will

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Speaker 7: be a scenario where where Trump may give away some

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Speaker 7: of his moral advantage.

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Speaker 5: Here. There's no question that they came after him.

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Speaker 7: With things that they shouldn't have, that were politically motivated,

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Speaker 7: that they weaponized the justice system. And you know, let's

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Speaker 7: hope that this turns out to be I hate to

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Speaker 7: say it turns out to be a real crime, and

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Speaker 7: that doing the same thing back.

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Speaker 1: I got it, I got you one final question, and

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Speaker 1: he got about thirty seconds from this. I'm sorry the

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Speaker 1: statements that she made and I don't have time to

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Speaker 1: read them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just incredible, just real quickly. This is.

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Speaker 1: Something from her a tweet from her back in February

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. When powerful people cheat to get better loans,

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Speaker 1: it comes at the expense of hardworking people. Everyday Americans

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Speaker 1: cannot lie to get a mortgage, and our government would

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Speaker 1: throw the book at them. We simply can't hate have

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Speaker 1: different rules for different people. My question is this, Will

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Speaker 1: the government be able to use those statements in trial

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Speaker 1: to show that she's a hypocrite. I know that's not

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Speaker 1: a legal type thing, but will they be able to use.

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Speaker 7: Those Absolutely they will, And it goes well beyond her

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Speaker 7: being a hypocrite, And she is a breeze and hypocrite,

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Speaker 7: by the way, And if you could convict someone of that,

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Speaker 7: I would, I would absolutely stay it breaking that. But

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Speaker 7: what it goes to is under the federal rules, it

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Speaker 7: goes to the idea that she knows it's wrong. I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, just the idea that she's acknowledged, you know,

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Speaker 7: the wrongfulness of the conduct. I think is the exact

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Speaker 7: phrase that they use. Because a lot of people in

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Speaker 7: these mortgage part cases, and I've been involved in a couple. Look,

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Speaker 7: the argument is, hey, checked, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, we're out of time.

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Speaker 1: Everything's also that, uh, I'm gonna have you on soon

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Speaker 1: to talk about politics too, because you are the head

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Speaker 1: of the Charter Party and we will do that, maybe

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Speaker 1: even next week.

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Speaker 3: I'll get with you later in the week.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll do that.

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Speaker 7: Hey.

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Speaker 1: We have a good day, man. Thank you you too.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Steve, good care you too. Hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I am way out of time. Want to thank my

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Speaker 1: producer Liam for keeping me out of trouble. I am

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Speaker 1: out of here. Will be back next Saturday with full

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Speaker 1: show Mike Allen seven hundred WLW. You've got your whole

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Speaker 1: life ahead of you, so choose a Medicare plan you

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Speaker 1: can count on if you're living with a chronic condition

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Speaker 1: like diabetes, chronic car failure, or a cardiovascu