WEBVTT - 3-10-26 Mike Allen in for Scott Sloan

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be an American.

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<v Speaker 2>Indio News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in for

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<v Speaker 2>Slowney today. Oh, lots going on, you know. I just

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<v Speaker 2>saw this this morning Australia. My daughter is in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the army. She stationed there protesters in Australia. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess what they did. They blocked a bus that was

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<v Speaker 2>carrying the Iranian women's soccer team. Uh, they got out,

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<v Speaker 2>they lost, and they exited the I think it's the

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<v Speaker 2>Women's Asian Cup this week. But I guess what happened

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<v Speaker 2>is dozens of demonstrators knelt down or they laid in

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<v Speaker 2>front of the bus outside the team's hotel on the

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Coast. They were chanting save our girls and waving

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<v Speaker 2>pre revolution Iranian flags. Now, just so you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>pre revolution flag looks a lot like the one they

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<v Speaker 2>have now, so he got to kind of look at

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<v Speaker 2>it closely. But here's the gist of it. Though five

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<v Speaker 2>players asked for and were granted asylum by the Australian

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<v Speaker 2>government after seeking safety amid fears of punishment in Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>You think right as I was coming out the door

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, I saw the Prime Minister of Australia don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember his name talking about it, and he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they got a home here, and so does

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the team if they should want to.

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<v Speaker 2>So he is going to grant them asylum. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>read one thing where apparently he didn't want to do

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<v Speaker 2>that at first, but they now are going to grant asylum,

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<v Speaker 2>as I understand it to these five more hubbub with

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<v Speaker 2>this team in a good way as far as I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>This team initially refused to sing the Iranian national anthem

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<v Speaker 2>that was before the first match against South Korea, and

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<v Speaker 2>they did that as a gesture of protest or mourning.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what happened was President Trump when he found

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<v Speaker 2>out or heard that initially they weren't going to grant asylum,

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<v Speaker 2>he got on the Tom Tom's probably truth social and

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<v Speaker 2>raised a bit of a ruckus and the Australian PM

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister gave in. But you know what, it just

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrates what you're dealing with here with Iran, And unless

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<v Speaker 2>you're a total idiot, you realize this. These are horrible,

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<v Speaker 2>horrible people. You know, I wouldn't want to be those

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<v Speaker 2>five women if I went back to Iran. After not

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<v Speaker 2>singing the Iranian national anthem. There's just no way, Lord

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<v Speaker 2>knows what they would do with it. But just curiously,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I know this thing's only about a day old,

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<v Speaker 2>and perhaps I missed it. I didn't hear now or

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<v Speaker 2>any women's groups screaming about that. And don't you find

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<v Speaker 2>that really unusual? Of course, I say all of this

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<v Speaker 2>with tongue firmly planted in chic They don't care. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's something that's not gonna make America look bad,

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<v Speaker 2>then they're not concerned with it. Such hypocrites. But we

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<v Speaker 2>shall see how this plays out. But I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to give all five of those young ladies

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<v Speaker 2>a metal if I could, because they're brave. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people like that in that country that

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<v Speaker 2>are brave, and you know, we've kind of set the

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<v Speaker 2>table for them, and now it's time for them to

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<v Speaker 2>take their country back. And tomorrow you probably already know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you don't, President Trump is coming to Cincinnati, and

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<v Speaker 2>here's the deal with that. And by the way, we

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<v Speaker 2>will be talking to Janis Heisel of the Epoch Times

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<v Speaker 2>at nine point thirty. She is covering the event. The

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<v Speaker 2>President's visit for the Epoch time, so we'll get the

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<v Speaker 2>download from her what she knows about it. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to visit Cincinnati and Hebrew, Kentucky, Kentucky on Wednesday, Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>March eleventh, Trump will be touring the Thermo Fisher Scientific

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<v Speaker 2>and discussing Trump are Acts a government website that allows

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<v Speaker 2>people to buy discounted prescription drugs. And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm all for that. It's just a joke. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>every time I go and you know, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>get a prescription filled, the price is different, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll say, well, we build your insurance and they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>cover it. And my rule of thumb on that is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much, if it's something that you really need, it

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<v Speaker 2>won't be covered, So forget about it. Trump's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be speaking at a public event while in Hebrew at

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<v Speaker 2>Verse Logistics Contract packaging facility. Don't know the purpose of

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<v Speaker 2>that visit so far, but here's the deal. Everybody knows this.

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Kentucky's kind of been a thorn in the President's

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<v Speaker 2>side for a while. The region is represented in Congress

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<v Speaker 2>by Tom Massey, who is always on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of Trump in these fights in the feud has really

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<v Speaker 2>gotten pretty bitter, so I don't know that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting to see. But again, as I said, Janis Heisel,

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<v Speaker 2>the Epoch Times will be with us in just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit to tell us about that. But anyway, he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to speak at this pharmaceutical and biotechnology manufacturing plant,

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<v Speaker 2>Thermo Fisher that's near I guess the Northern Kentucky International Airport.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be there. They don't know for sure

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<v Speaker 2>what time yet, don't have an exact time. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what. When I was in politics, I've had the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to be involved in some of these presidential visits.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a big deal. I mean, you just can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine what goes into it. Coordination with traffic, security and

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<v Speaker 2>those type of things. And President Trump kind of does

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<v Speaker 2>things on the fly too, So I'm sure all those

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<v Speaker 2>people got their got their things together and it'll work

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<v Speaker 2>out fine. I wanted to talk to you just a

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<v Speaker 2>minute because it's something that I didn't really even know about,

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<v Speaker 2>and I try to find out what is trump Our

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<v Speaker 2>ex Trump deal includes new direct to consumer website announcement,

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<v Speaker 2>and as I said before, this is something it was

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<v Speaker 2>an issue in the campaign. It's still an issue. This

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<v Speaker 2>is something that something has to be done about it

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<v Speaker 2>because other countries don't have the issues that we do

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<v Speaker 2>with respect to prescription drugs. You know, they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to mortgage their house to be able to get them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you what, I'm pretty much convinced the

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<v Speaker 2>way this stuff goes is Tony is at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the chain here cashing in. And I say that

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat with tongue planet in cheek, but at any rate,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the deal with the trump RX. It's expected to

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<v Speaker 2>launch at the beginning of next year, so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>enforced yet. It will allow patients to buy Pfizer drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Pfizer's the only company that's in so far, at a

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<v Speaker 2>discount of fifty percent on average. I'll tell you something,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the prescriptions I've had to get fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>off is well, something that will be very, very welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>and as far as Fiser goes, it will include a

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<v Speaker 2>majority of the company's primary care treatments and some specialty brands.

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<v Speaker 2>Pfizer's participation in trump our X is part of a

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<v Speaker 2>greater agreement for the drug maker to lower costs for

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<v Speaker 2>some I don't know how they figure this out, but

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<v Speaker 2>some American consumers. As President Trump tries to reduce drug

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<v Speaker 2>prices to match other countries, and yeah, that's like I

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<v Speaker 2>just said, We're the only country that goes through this nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you have a drug that you need, you

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<v Speaker 2>go get it. You know, of course, oh it's sure

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't cover it. But maybe one time when you go,

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<v Speaker 2>it's thirty dollars. Well, then the next time you go,

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<v Speaker 2>it's thirty two dollars. But then if you got your

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<v Speaker 2>good RX thing on your phone, they'll lop another twenty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a load of crap, it really is. And

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<v Speaker 2>I am so glad that he's doing this, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just hope that it goes beyond Pfizer. But anyway, Pfizer

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<v Speaker 2>is also planning to invest in US manufacturing, which gives

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<v Speaker 2>it a three year grace period. Here we go from

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's tariffs on pharmaceutical products. By taking this bold step,

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<v Speaker 2>we're ending the era of global price gouging at the

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<v Speaker 2>expense of American families, and we're making America healthy again.

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<v Speaker 2>What mister president, And I'm glad you're doing that, and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully tomorrow we will be able to learn a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more about Trump RX and what sure would be

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<v Speaker 2>nice if he could speed it up because as they said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not scheduled to go online until twenty twenty seven. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do this. Let's take a quick break and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back. Mike Allen in for Slowney, seven hundred wl W,

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<v Speaker 2>down twenty two News Radio, seven hundred wl W. Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Gallon in for Sloaney today. Tell you what I got

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<v Speaker 2>Fox News on obviously with the sound turndown. And I

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<v Speaker 2>am glad I'm not traveling today, tomorrow or the next

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<v Speaker 2>day whatever. What a freaking mess. And it all comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to funding for the Department of Homeland Security and

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats league, well, we'll show them, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gon we're gonna hang this noose over their head and

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<v Speaker 2>they'll go ahead and cave on ICE. Well, the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is ICE is already funded. I mean, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I really wonder whether the Democrats think we're all that's

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<v Speaker 2>stupid and we can't figure it out. I've got some

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<v Speaker 2>poll numbers here I'll tell you about in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of heartening but not surprising. But anyway, with respect

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<v Speaker 2>to the airports agents have been grappling with partial paychecks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not good and soon to be empty paychecks if

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<v Speaker 2>this shutdown persists. Here's the thing, the wait time. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this was yesterday for travelers three point five hours,

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half hours. You know what, I always

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<v Speaker 2>get to the I've traveled a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>I get to the airport early. I don't mind doing

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<v Speaker 2>that three and a half hours, and just for such

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<v Speaker 2>a stupid reason. So if you go to the TSA

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<v Speaker 2>website or their app, you won't find it because they

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<v Speaker 2>paused operations on February seventeenth. There's something that pops up.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that says the site will not be updated

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<v Speaker 2>until after funding is enacted, leaving travelers high and dry

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to finding wait time information. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's unbelievable, it really is. I mean goes on to

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<v Speaker 2>say some individual airports track the security lines, wait times,

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<v Speaker 2>things like that independently, So I guess what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>what Homeland Security is doing. They're just pointing people in

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<v Speaker 2>that direction, like, hey, call the airport directly. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad I'm not traveling, and get it. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there are delays mechanical otherwise, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>just stupid. It's stupid, and there's no reason for it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no reason for it at all. But I guess

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<v Speaker 2>we shall see where that goes, all right, you know me.

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<v Speaker 2>I love my polls. This one came out yesterday and

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<v Speaker 2>it's somewhat surprising. Blood as far as I'm concerned, I

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<v Speaker 2>like the way it came out. A new NBC News

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<v Speaker 2>poll released I guess it was yesterday shows that President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump currently holds a higher favorability rating than both California

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Gavin Newsom and Kamala herself. Here's the breakdown, and

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump as these other two jokers, Kamala and Gavin,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all what they referred to in politics as underwater.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is at forty one percent positive, fifty three percent negative,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a net loss I guess of twelve points.

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala thirty four percent positive, fifty one percent negative. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a net of seventeen. Gavin new some even worse, only

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven percent positive, forty five percent negative, for a

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<v Speaker 2>net loss of eighteen. So I mean, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>If the election were held today, if jdvans I think

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<v Speaker 2>were the candidate, I think he would win. I wouldn't well,

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<v Speaker 2>I almost don't want to say that, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>bet the ranch on it today. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>he would people, some people, not many. I think people

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<v Speaker 2>are so busy with their jobs, with their family and

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<v Speaker 2>other things that they just don't watch this stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>know they don't watch it as much as I do,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're normal people. Anyway, these results are viewed as

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<v Speaker 2>a warning sign, you think, for Newsom and Harris, who

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<v Speaker 2>are both considered top potential Democratic contenders for the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighth presidential race. And I'll tell you what, if

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrat Party can't do better than Kamala Harris and

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<v Speaker 2>or Gavin Newsom, they deserve to get paddled pretty badly

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<v Speaker 2>in the election. And of course the big thing's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the upcoming midterms. But again, the takeaways from

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, and this was an NBC News poll, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, usually pretty reliable, it's a warning sign for

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<v Speaker 2>Newsoman Harris. As I said the same poll this I

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<v Speaker 2>like this too, found that Immigration and Customs Enforcement ice

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<v Speaker 2>with a net favorability rating. It's not favor a net

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<v Speaker 2>favorability rating of eighteen. Underwater is currently more popular than

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party, which sits at twenty two. After the

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<v Speaker 2>hose job that the mainstream media and the Democrats have

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<v Speaker 2>done to Ice, they are still more popular than the

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<v Speaker 2>generic Democrat Party. You know what I mean. If that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make them take pause and kind of look at things,

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<v Speaker 2>than they deserve to lose everything. But the way Ice

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<v Speaker 2>has been trashed and kicked around and maligned and lied about,

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<v Speaker 2>there's still people still like them a lot more than

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrat Party, about four points more. Getting the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>his net favorability is higher than those two jokers I

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<v Speaker 2>just mentioned, but his own job approval is dipped slightly,

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<v Speaker 2>falling from forty seven percent last year at this time

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<v Speaker 2>to forty four percent in early March twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 2>which we are in. Despite the low individual favorability for

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat leaders, voters still narrowly preferred Democrats fifty percent over

0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Republicans forty four percent for the midterms. I saw something

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<v Speaker 2>else yesterday too. Democrats are so ginned up for the midterms.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll get everybody out, They'll get everybody out, and Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>as always, are lagging behind. And if these maga Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>don't get out and vote in the midterms. We're cooked.

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<v Speaker 2>We're cooked. So just because Trump isn't on a ballot

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that it's not an important election. Anyway. We

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<v Speaker 2>have to take a break for the news. But when

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<v Speaker 2>we get back, as I said, we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be talking to Janis Heisel of the Epoch Times. She

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<v Speaker 2>is assigned to cover the president's visit tomorrow. Maybe she

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<v Speaker 2>knows more than information and I just gave you, But

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk to Janis when we get back. Mike Allen

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<v Speaker 2>in for Sloaney, seven hundred wl W. They we're back,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Allen in for Sloaney, seven hundred wl W. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said in the opening here, we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a presidential visit tomorrow. President Trump is going

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<v Speaker 2>to a place called, uh, what's it called? Uh, It's

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is to speak Pharmaceutical Thermo Fisher Scientific. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>I had it. Then he's going to speak over in

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<v Speaker 2>northern Kentucky as well, and that order might be flipped around.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't know for sure yesterday. But anyway, here to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it is the senior reporter for the Epoch Times,

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<v Speaker 2>who is going to cover this event tomorrow, Janis Heisel. Janis,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much for joining us this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is actually Trump's first visiting our area since

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<v Speaker 3>his second term as president began a year a little

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<v Speaker 3>more than a year ago, and so it'll be interesting

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<v Speaker 3>to see how all of this shakes out. Now that

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<v Speaker 3>first event, as you mentioned, Thermo Fisher Scientific, which is

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<v Speaker 3>in reading, he's going to be talking about Trump RIX

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<v Speaker 3>and I think people will say it's so this is

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<v Speaker 3>the argument of the Trump administration. They're saying, look, Americans

0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.200
<v Speaker 3>are paying the highest rug prices in the world, so

0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.720
<v Speaker 3>there's they've negotiated but what's called most Favored Nation pricing

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<v Speaker 3>agreements so that they can match the lowest price paid

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<v Speaker 3>in other countries. And then through trump RX online, people

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<v Speaker 3>are supposed to be able to get discounts of somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>around forty percent up to ninety three percent again for

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<v Speaker 3>medication prescriptions. So it'll be interesting to see how all

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<v Speaker 3>of that really plays out. It's really relatively new. I

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<v Speaker 3>personally haven't listened to it a whole lot yet, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's he's going to be talking more about that in

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know exactly the timing the visit to Thermal

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<v Speaker 3>push and scientific getting is not open to the public,

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<v Speaker 3>and I believe it's also closed to the press. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be focusing my efforts on that second visit, which

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<v Speaker 3>I do know a little more detail on, and that

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<v Speaker 3>one is going to be in the afternoon. He will

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<v Speaker 3>be at Birst Logistics, which is in Hebron, and so

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be I'm more like a like a

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<v Speaker 3>like a I think a rally field to it, because

0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.840
<v Speaker 3>public will be there, and so to be interesting to

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<v Speaker 3>see how that also shapes out, especially because there's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a political fight going on there in

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<v Speaker 3>that reason, because Trump and Representative Massey has left her

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<v Speaker 3>heads with each other over a bunch of different policies

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<v Speaker 3>and some opposition that Matthew has made, and Matthew is

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<v Speaker 3>now facing some opposition. Trump has endorsed a former Navy seal,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to kind of kick him out of office.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see. I'm willing to bet there's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be some aspect of that come up that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you think that president won't hold back

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<v Speaker 2>on that?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, you never know, but to a certain degree,

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<v Speaker 3>if you were a betting woman. I bet he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm kind of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Janis, we got a terrible connection here. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know which side it's on. I can hear you a

0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit garble, but we will soldier on and apologize

0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.680
<v Speaker 2>to the listeners for that. I think, if anything, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably on our end. I wanted to ask you to

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<v Speaker 2>as a local reporter here, have you ever covered a

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<v Speaker 2>presidential visit or is this your first time?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've actually, as you know, covered Trump's campaign for

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<v Speaker 4>his second term, but I do think this is the

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<v Speaker 4>first time i've covered him as while he was sitting

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<v Speaker 4>as a president. I did him long ago for a

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<v Speaker 4>different publication.

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<v Speaker 3>I covered President Bill Clinton while he was.

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<v Speaker 2>In office, Okay, but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't really covered sitting presidents, so to be something kind

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<v Speaker 3>of newish for me, if I recall.

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<v Speaker 2>Correctly, Yeah, it'll be interesting. Hey, I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about some pieces, some articles that you wrote for the

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Epoch Times, which your usual thorough, deep dive, really good.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about it, I think it was on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wanted to talk to you again about it.

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<v Speaker 2>An article you did Iranians in US consider airstrikes has

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<v Speaker 2>helped to liberate their homeland. And you talk to a

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:15.399
<v Speaker 2>number of women Iranian Americans, tell us what kind of

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.480
<v Speaker 2>the temperature was for them. I know obviously they're supportive

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<v Speaker 2>of what's going on over there, but just give me

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on that real quick if you could.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, it was the cheap reporters that were working on.

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<v Speaker 2>This, and we.

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<v Speaker 3>Interviewed men and women, so three of each. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily by design. We were just trying to get anybody

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<v Speaker 3>who would talk to us, who we could find across

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<v Speaker 3>the nation, various states, And the bottom line theme from

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<v Speaker 3>all of them, they were just so grateful for efforts

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<v Speaker 3>to get them out from underneath the reviews that had

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<v Speaker 3>so oppressed their people. These are people living in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States who either regraded from that country or have

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<v Speaker 3>relatives there or bold and so that was the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>line with them. And I got it too. The interview

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<v Speaker 3>that I personally did, Like I said, so of my

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 3>colleagues did interviews that I kind of wove it all

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<v Speaker 3>together in story form. The one man a personally, he

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<v Speaker 3>touched me veryly when he was telling me how he

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<v Speaker 3>literally his voice was crackingly spoke to me almost in

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<v Speaker 3>tears as he was saying how very much he respects

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<v Speaker 3>the Irate and women who were removing the official Muslim

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<v Speaker 3>uh you know, headcoming and body covering called a hijab.

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<v Speaker 3>They would that removing that is a punishable offense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if they take that off and they're not wearing it

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<v Speaker 3>in public, and they were removing those and burning those

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<v Speaker 3>at the risk of not only find jail time or

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<v Speaker 3>even det and how much respects has for those women,

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<v Speaker 3>He said, they were so courageous for doing that. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think people in a country have a concept of

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<v Speaker 3>what that must have been like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think you're right about that. We really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you saw it, Jana said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it broke late last night about the the

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<v Speaker 2>five Iranian women on the on their soccer team that

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<v Speaker 2>they are seeking and granted I believe asylum in Australia

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<v Speaker 2>because they did not sing the national anthem or something,

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 2>the running national anthem or something like that, and now

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>the after some doubt, the Prime Minister of Australia is

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 2>granting them asylum. Did you see that yet? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean to spring that on you, because it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, but.

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<v Speaker 5>Deeply into detail on that one, since I haven't written

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<v Speaker 5>anything about that one personally, but yes, I am aware

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<v Speaker 5>of it, and from what I understand, I do remember

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<v Speaker 5>seeing a.

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<v Speaker 6>Post from someone on the tree social.

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<v Speaker 3>I think something about the fact that we're several of

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<v Speaker 3>these women who still feel the need to go back

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>because they're worried about their family members. They literally are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be targeted for some severe punishment from what

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<v Speaker 3>I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll tell you what, I think. I'd make Australia

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<v Speaker 2>my home until things settle down there if I were them.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, I get it, they're going to be with

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 2>their families. Let me ask you this, in talking to

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 2>these people, the women, the Iranian Americans, do they understand

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>that it's up to them now? The citizens ever I

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:44.119
<v Speaker 2>ran to overthrow and take over their government. I just

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.919
<v Speaker 2>get a feeling that that's not a message that's really

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 2>being pounded into much. What do you think about that?

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Did you talk to any of them about that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Trump did explicitly state that more than once

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 3>when psychically, according to him, it's up to you, the

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 3>Iranian people, to seize this moment because it may be

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 3>your only chance in like generations. So because that Iranian

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 3>regime has been in control for forty seven years, investing

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 3>that the forty step president is going after that. But

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 3>literally under you know, the nuclear you know, enrichment and

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 3>steps towards the nuclear bomb are really what President Trump

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 3>had said, you know, incentivized this.

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<v Speaker 7>But you did.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell the Iranian people in the streets being told by

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:45.479
<v Speaker 3>the tens of thousands just for protesting, that help was

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.120
<v Speaker 3>going to be on its way. And then he said

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 3>help was there, and they that's what they told me.

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 3>They thought help was there. And I do think that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they will try based on what I was told,

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 3>but firepower weapons, these people who are just of I

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 3>don't know any of that, so that is a big

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 3>question mark as whether they will be successful, what they

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 3>might need.

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 6>To be successful.

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<v Speaker 8>And I remember something It was jd Vance, the Vice

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 8>it and saying, well, you never know about Israel. Whether

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 8>I think he said we could not arm the people

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 8>because you never know about Israel, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Response to a report question if I.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a hunt with JD.

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Vance, But I do remember a person in the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure it was him, being.

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<v Speaker 2>That you know, and I can see that happening too

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>through Israel. I mean, they've got more to lose than

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 2>we do. But I didn't want to just follow up

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 2>on what you said. Trump's public announcements pronouncements on that issue.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in your story, Jannis. In a video address, and

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who got to see that or what.

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>In a video address, Trump told around citizenry to remain

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>sheltered until the bombing cease, and then quote, when we

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>are finished take over your government, this will probably be

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 2>your only chance for generations. And I just hope that

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>they seize the opportunity for that, But I guess we'll

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 2>have to wait and see it. What sure seems like

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>they're primed for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well those were his exact words, for sure, and you

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 3>know he just he just kind of shook and said,

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 3>we'll see what happens. I mean, I think he says

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 3>something literally along those lines right after that statement. Ye

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of like, hey, it would be out of his hands.

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:36.439
<v Speaker 2>After that shift gears on you here last week. You

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>got this story. You've been on top of this Minnesota

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 2>thing since jump and always so thorough and really let

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>us know what's going on. They had that hearing last

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>week March the fourth I got to watch some of

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>it the hearing with the Governor, Tim Waltz and Attorney

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 2>General Keith Allison and man to say that they got

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 2>raked over the coles as an understand, and I don't

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>mean that in a negative way, some tough, tough questions

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 2>that they really should have answered a little bit more fully.

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 2>I think, can you kind of tell us about that

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Janis and the four takeaways that you had?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure? So, the chairman of the committee, which was a

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 3>House oversight committee, basically said, you know, this is one

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 3>of the most standout quotes in my memory from this

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 3>hearing was while the whistleblowers were silenced, prasters got rich.

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 3>And so you know, there's some argument that you know,

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 3>just like a football coach or a quarterback, how responsibility

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 3>for what happens with the team or freshing with the

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 3>coach In the same way, the governor and some of

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 3>his supporters were basically saying, you know, you can't know everything.

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.479
<v Speaker 3>You can be in charge of every single little thing,

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 3>but at the end of the day, you know, I

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 3>will say Waltz, the Governor did say that the buck

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>stops with me. He has said that several times. So

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 3>he was saying, Look, Comer was saying, look, being in

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 3>charge of this. According to him and a lot of

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 3>other testimony, people who were coming forward from these state

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>departments and saying, warning, I am seeing lots of money

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 3>flowing to this place, and they're not really justifying these funds,

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 3>and they're just saying, well, there's Somalians who are running

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 3>that business, so you know, you might be considered racist

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 3>or islamaphobic if we investigate. So just basically be quiet,

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 3>so you know. And they were actually threatened and surveiled,

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 3>and according to a lot of testimony, and there were

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 3>apparently at least thirty whistle blowers who gave testimony in

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 3>private sessions to members of Comer's committee.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 2>About that eleven billion dollars. Thirty whistle blowers. Gee, I

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>think something may be a miss up there in Minnesota.

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>You're first out of your four things points that you make.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Payments kept flowing after fraud alarms, and I've heard that

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>ever since this thing started. Jais I mean, and you

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 2>just kind of covered a little bit. They knew something

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 2>was going on, but they kept throwing money at it. Anyway,

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Is that accurate?

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 3>That was what one of the things give out of

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 3>the hearing. You know, Representative Byron Donalds, who's running for

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 3>governor in Florida, was saying that, you know, agency leaders

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 3>directly notified the governor's chief of staff by May of

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty about concerns regarding this business called Feeding Our Future.

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 3>It's a nonprofit organization that was paid to get provide

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 3>meals to kids. Yeah, well the payments get this went

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 3>from three hundred and seven thousand dollars in twenty eighteen,

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 3>which is a year before Waltz took office, to two

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 3>one hundred million dollars three years later.

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 5>Wow after So that would have been in twenty twenty one,

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 5>a year after the flat.

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Alarms were raised, And donald and other people are going, what.

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>It's just unbelievable. And I still think it's a tip

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>of the iceberg. But we'll see, and I want we're

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 2>not going to have time for all of them. But

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the second point, whistleblower retaliation alleged and denied. That's something

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.479
<v Speaker 2>that you've looked at him and we've been talking about

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>for a while. It seems to me that that's pretty

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>much established now, is it not that the whistleblowers have

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>been kind of singled out. I think somebody said Tim Burchett,

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 2>a Republican from Tennessee, almost thirty whistleblowers accused you and

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>your administration of retaliation. Of course, Waltz denied it. What

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts on that?

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, not only those whistleblowers spoke directly to that committee

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes, but there's that actually an x account

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 3>that claims to represent get this, four hundred Minnesota state

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:14.719
<v Speaker 3>employees who are issuing statements over and over again. And

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 3>ordinarily anybody can set up a Twitter account, right, so

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>you know x xcs Twitter. But you know, the thing

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 3>is that state legislators have spoken to a lot of

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 3>these people confidentially, and they have validated that account as

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 3>being legitimately made up of people who are working or

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 3>were in the past working for state government agencies in Minnesota.

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 3>And so there was one lady who went very public.

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 3>I've seen her name, and I chose not to name

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 3>her in this article for a couple of different reasons.

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>But she was a.

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Lifelong Democrat and was called racist. So again, Governor Waltz

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 3>is a Democrat. But this lady, despite being a standploy,

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 3>a lifelong Democrat, was called racist and her she got

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 3>a different job, assignment at a not such a good

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 3>job right after she blew the whistle on fraud.

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, so that lady has been public in multiple publications.

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll tell you what, there's going to be more

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>of that too. And well that just kind of really

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>makes you mad. Just the fear of being labeled racist,

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>islamophobic causes people not to do anything about it, you know. Unfortunately,

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Janis as always we are out of time, but really

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>appreciates you spending some time with us this morning.

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I just want to encourage people to follow me

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 3>on Janice Heisel. Last name is h I s l E.

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 3>First name is Janis j A.

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I see, all right, thank you so much. Janis really

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 2>a great day. Mind you too. Well, I'll tell you what.

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 2>When she does a story, she does a story, and

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 2>that's the Epoch Times in general. And again, if you

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>have had a chance, and I'm not working form or anything,

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 2>but if you haven't had a chance to look at it,

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>you should because it's a very very thorough publication. Hey,

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>we got to take a break, but when we get back,

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 2>will it ever go away? Epstein Epstein Epstein Legal analyst

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Steve Gooden is going to talk to you about another

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Epstein issue, this one with a Cincinnati twist. So make

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 2>sure you want to hear that. We will be back.

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Mike Gallen in for Slowny, seven hundred WLW.

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>You want to be an American.

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>TA News Radio seven WLW. Mike Allen in for Sloaney. Well,

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>if you think we're done with Epstein, think again, this

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>time with a local twist, some old, old old allegations

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>against Epstein and also President Trump. But I mean it's

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 2>as thin as it can be. But again, as I said,

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 2>there is a local twist to it. Here to talk

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 2>about it is legal analyst Steve Gooden. He is a

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 2>partner with Porter Wright and he works on complicated civil

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>and criminal cases. Steve, thanks for joining.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 9>Us, Hey anytime, like, Hey, tell.

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Us about this new thing that you found. As I understand,

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see it, and it's not really written about

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>very much. It was one of the ones that the DOJ,

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess lost or something like that. Can you fill

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>us in on all that?

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 10>Sure, Yeah, this is a really interesting twist and as

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:41.720
<v Speaker 10>you say, it may be absolutely nothing, but it's fascinating. Nonetheless,

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 10>So the DOJ, Department of Justice released a handful of

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 10>documents on Friday that were not, for whatever reason, originally

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 10>produced with the rest of the Epstein files about six

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 10>weeks ago. And in those documents there are additional allegations

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 10>about Epstein and Donald Trump from roughly to nineteen eighty

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 10>three nineteen eighty four period, and what allegedly happened all

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.879
<v Speaker 10>occurred on Hilton Head Island in a series of long

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 10>term rentals, and there was a woman who came forward

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 10>along with her friend in twenty nineteen, according to these reports,

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 10>called the FBI and said, look, we were I was

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 10>sexually abused there by both Epstein and by President Now

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 10>President Trump provided some very graphic details I won't go

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 10>into on the air.

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 9>But one of the things that caught my mind my.

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 10>Attention immediately in this last release is she references a

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 10>Cincinnati area businessman who was involved in real estate in

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 10>south in South Carolina and gives a very specific description.

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 9>Of him, and he is named in the files. I

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 9>won't name him here.

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.439
<v Speaker 10>There have been several newspaper reports in the Charleston, South

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 10>Carolina area that have really delved into this and have

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 10>tried to figure out, you know, whether or not they

0:36:59.160 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 10>can substantiate.

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 9>We ate these claims.

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 10>Obviously, the person who made them has been identified as

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 10>an actual person. For mother and friends have been identified,

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 10>and it looks as though the FBI did do some

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 10>follow up calls. This individual is also appears several other

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 10>places now in the files. There are folks, you know,

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.240
<v Speaker 10>out on the internet who are searching through these millions

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 10>of documents because it does seem as though this person

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 10>who we believe most most of us believed to be dead.

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 10>You know, he's someone who has described as quote having

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 10>gray hair and big ears, which isn't much to go on.

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 10>But this individual, this woman.

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 9>Did name him.

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 10>You know, most news papers are not naming him at

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 10>this point because it is now substantiated. But she listed

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 10>him as a Cincinnati area business person with real estate connections,

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 10>business in South Carolina, and someone affiliated with the local college.

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 10>I will say that some of the other folks who

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 10>have dug into this, and as well as myself, you know,

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 10>it looks as though the person may be may be

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 10>more of a Cincinnati person than or Columbus person than

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 10>a Cincinnati person. But it's fascinating, nonetheless, and I think

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 10>it's going to be you know, opening up get a

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 10>new sort of Pandora's box with local connections, particularly given

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 10>you know.

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 9>The ongoing drama.

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 10>At Ohio State over the less wets Near connection with

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 10>they think there is very he is much much more

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 10>firmly established than this. But for the first time, you know,

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 10>you plug in Cincinnati into the DJ surch engine, you're

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 10>going to start to start to see some.

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Stuff, you know, and and it is interesting the Cincinnati connection.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 2>And obviously I won't ask you to name that person

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>he said he passed away? Am I right about that?

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 9>Well?

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 10>Who most of us believe it's a very common name,

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 10>and so I'm trying to talk around it because if

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 10>it's if it is the individual that most folks seem

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 10>to think think it is his, you know, living adult children.

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 10>So again, until something is substantiated in more detail, and

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 10>this person is never criminally charged or anything of that

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 10>name true, but the name can be found in the unredacted.

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 9>Files that were released last Friday.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 10>So if it's the person that most people think seem

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 10>to think it is the person that has been deceased

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 10>for some years.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, another interesting thing in the article that you

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>sent me from the South Carolina newspaper, I'll just read

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 2>that a couple of sentences here. Months later, she was

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 2>charged with six counts of forgery for writing bad checks.

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the mom you're talking about there, right, Okay, for

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 2>writing bad checks, a crime she had been accused of

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 2>in the past as well. Signing off on the charges

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>was then solicitor, which is prosecutor then solicitor rand Hoff

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Buster Murdo Junior, the dude who was convicted of murder

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 2>his wife and his son. So, I mean, that's a

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of an interesting little twist on that.

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, it's insane if you if you dig into

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 10>the whole report, the there's this this gentleman who was

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 10>either from Cincinnati or Columbus was dating her mother and

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 10>then also you know, became involved with her when she

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 10>was thirteen and fourteen.

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 9>That's what she alleges anyway. So and then the mother.

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 10>Obviously ended up going to jail for embezzling from her

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:23.439
<v Speaker 10>real estate business and later blamed the embezzlement on her

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 10>need to raise money to pay off Jeffrey Epstein, who

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 10>allegedly had photos of her daughter. It's very sordid. And then, yes,

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 10>the prosecutor who put her in jail, for embezzlement, later

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 10>went to prison himself for murdering his wife. So you know,

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:42.479
<v Speaker 10>Hilton had Charles you know that say they do things

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 10>differently down there.

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 2>I suppose, yeah they do. I mean everything that I've

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:49.439
<v Speaker 2>watched about that. It's interesting too, as those people kind

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>of ruled the roost down there, the murders. But I

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I thought that was an interesting twist. Just

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>a couple more questions on this and then we'll move on.

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you, I mean, what is your best guest, Steve Gooden,

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 2>as to when, if ever, all this Epstein stuff is

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>going to stop. I mean, and it's a two parter.

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 2>And don't you think just as a general rule or

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:17.720
<v Speaker 2>principle whatever, that if the Democrats had something on Trump,

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 2>they sure as hell would have trotted it out before

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:20.720
<v Speaker 2>the election.

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 10>I mean, look, I mean, first and foremost, if there

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 10>was a criminal case to bring against Donald Trump, I

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 10>think that it would have been brought a long long

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.359
<v Speaker 10>time ago. I mean, as we saw in the pier

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.320
<v Speaker 10>between the two terms. I mean, they brought criminal charges

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 10>against him that were baseless. I mean, I still think

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 10>the mortgage fraud case was ridiculous. You know, some of

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 10>the Jack Smith stuff also was totally overblown. Most of

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.720
<v Speaker 10>it fell apart in court. If they had an actual,

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 10>live witness with credible details, you know, I can't imagine

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 10>the case wouldn't have been brought forward. I mean this,

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 10>according to these documents, this individual, this woman was interviewed

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 10>as many as four times by the agents in twenty nineteen.

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 9>So if they really.

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 10>Had something there, any kind of corroborating evidence, you know,

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 10>that would be I would have to imagine that that

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:12.399
<v Speaker 10>kind of a case would have been brought forward. Now

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 10>that being said, there are things, you know, that do

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 10>according to this Posting Courier piece, which is the big

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 10>newspaper in Charleston, South Carolina, there are some things that

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 10>she says that do line up. I mean, she references

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 10>going to a concert and seeing Jeffrey Epstein, and they

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 10>found evidence that concert actually did occur. You know, they

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 10>found some evidence that supports of her mother was involved

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 10>in this real estate business that she mentions, in which

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 10>Jeffrey Epstein was a client and I think at one

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 10>point an investor. So there are some things there that

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 10>indicate some of the story is true, but so far,

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 10>no one's produced any kind of flight logs or any

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 10>other eyewitnesses that would connect the president there. So I

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 10>don't think there's much of a question that Jeffrey Epstein,

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 10>prior to having his private island, went to places, you know,

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 10>like his ranch in New Mexico and places that he

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 10>would rent and Hilton had to do, you know, his

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 10>his illegal activities. But really, there isn't anything there in

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 10>regards to the President that I don't think hasn't already

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 10>been talked about. There are specifics, there are details, and

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 10>again if you look at the actual documents that are

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 10>now available online, that's very.

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 9>Graphic and terrible.

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 10>But you know, it really is something that's something that

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 10>he's long denied, and that these kinds of allegations have

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 10>floated around him for many many years. You know, the

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 10>only thing that has ever been substantiated in a court

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 10>of law really was the Egene Carroll case where she

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 10>sued him Civilly prime reially for defamation in that case,

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 10>but the defamation was based on his denial of whatever

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:49.439
<v Speaker 10>sexual encounter they allegedly had at a department store many

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 10>many years ago. So, I mean, these things have floated

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 10>around him. You know, he obviously kind of lived this

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 10>playboy lifestyle and when he was younger, particularly and you know,

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 10>by his own mission, and I think that that opens

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 10>a person up to this kind of speculation, But there

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 10>really isn't anything here that's going to change anybody's mind.

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 10>And really just I think it's just a reflection of

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 10>how divided the country is at the end of the day.

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 10>I mean, there is actual a poll this morning there's

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 10>a significant plurality of people who believe that the invasion

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 10>or our attack on Iran, or Iran has been was

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:28.879
<v Speaker 10>solely designed to deflect attention from the Epstein files, which

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 10>you know, I mean there's there's you know, there's something

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 10>like forty percent of the public apparently believes that or

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 10>if you can believe the polling. So so that just

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 10>kind of reflects just how how divided the country is.

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 10>And I think, you know, and wh when you look

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 10>at the Epstein files, you're going to see what you're

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 10>looking for. If you hate Trump, you're going to see

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 10>evidence that he's a you know, a rapist and pedophile.

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 10>If you if you love Trump, you're going to look

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 10>at the files and you're going to see evidence that

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 10>he was being persecuted and gossiped about in a way

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 10>that's improper. And then there's a lot of us who

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 10>look at it and and don't know what the hell

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 10>to make of it all, to be honest.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 2>And then one more, a lot of us look at

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 2>it and wish it would just go away, because it's

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 2>a it's a side issue, if you will, and I

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 2>know for the victims it's not. But the man needs

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 2>to run the country and also do what he needs

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 2>to do in the world. I just wish it would

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 2>go away, but it's not. Hey, let me let me

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of change gears here at political of course, you

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 2>being a former Cincinnati City Council member and also the

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>chair of the Rejuvenated Charter Party, I understand we had

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 2>a couple more incidents downtown over the weekend, brawls and

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.919
<v Speaker 2>things of that nature. I didn't see it, But tell

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.760
<v Speaker 2>me what you know about that, Steve, Well.

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you know it.

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 10>It was kind of an interesting weekend and kind of

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 10>what's happened, I think really since last summer when we

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 10>had the horrible incident during the that became like an

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 10>international incident at the Cincinnati Music Festival on Fourth Street,

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 10>where you had this large brawl which is still snaking

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 10>its way through the court. What's kind of happened is

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 10>a lot of folks on social media now sort of

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 10>tracked these fights and incidents downtown.

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 9>And there are more of them, I.

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 10>Think than a lot of folks realize. They don't always

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 10>make it on the news, but a lot of people

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 10>record these things on their phone. So there were at

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 10>least two in the last seventy two hours. There was

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 10>a large brawl with a bunch of teenagers down at

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 10>a concert near the Brady Center. And then there was

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 10>another large brawl involving about twenty to thirty people down

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 10>by the library yesterday. And these are things that unfortunately

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 10>you can get on Facebook or Instagram now and track.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 10>They're not making a lot of the local news, I think,

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.879
<v Speaker 10>and even by the time sometimes the police respond that

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 10>they're they break up quickly. But there have been two

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:54.359
<v Speaker 10>more large scale brawls that have been I think very

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:56.760
<v Speaker 10>well documented. One of them did get some news coverage,

0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 10>the one at the concert, but it just continue used

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 10>to be an issue and it continues to be.

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 9>I think they're really.

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 10>Really hanging around then these are these are not in

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 10>the middle of the night. I mean the one yesterday was.

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 10>You know, it was at three pm near a bus stop.

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 10>So I mean, these are things that are occurring right

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 10>in the middle of the business district, right in the

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 10>middle of the work day, and it does beg the

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 10>question about, you know, how the city is deploying our

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 10>police department. I mean, we had a large festival called

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 10>Bockfest Jim Tarbell originated to back in the nineties. I

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 10>had a record turnout. I was down there on Friday

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 10>to watch the parade and no issues at all.

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 9>I mean they had police.

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 10>Everywhere and it was very well organized and very well

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 10>thought out. So we can when we when we have

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 10>a large scale event, do a great safety plan and

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 10>keep people safe. But you know, I didn't see any

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.800
<v Speaker 10>evidence of any kind of arrests or anything associated with

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 10>that large scale festival. Uh So, you know, but it's

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 10>continuing to be an issue. And now I think is

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 10>the weather is turning. You know, we had the awful

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 10>event at Riverfront Live two weeks ago. You know, we're

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 10>just everyone I think is just braced to see what

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 10>kind of a spring and summer we're going to have here.

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 10>I don't think this, you know, this is over. I

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 10>think for downtown and what it means for downtown is

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:13.919
<v Speaker 10>a very sad thing.

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 2>It is. It is. I mean, the millions, billions of

0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 2>dollars invested in downtown and you got to deal with this.

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:24.320
<v Speaker 2>We got a couple more minutes left. Is it true

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:28.879
<v Speaker 2>that the proposed city budget will cut public safety by

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 2>five percent? Because if it is, I mean, my head spinning.

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:34.280
<v Speaker 2>What do you know about that, Steve?

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:36.959
<v Speaker 9>Well, that's where we are right now.

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 10>I mean, the city is facing a twenty nine million

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 10>dollar deficit, and the early indicate the early plan is

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 10>to cut all departments, including the police department, five percent,

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 10>you know, and obviously we're going absolutely the wrong direction there,

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 10>you know, especially coming out of last summer with our

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 10>incredible uptick in gun violence. And I know the city

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 10>argues that, you know, crime across all categories is you know,

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 10>arguably down city wide, but the uptaking gun violence and

0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 10>Downtown OTR and Orthern OTR, especially in the West End,

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 10>it was up over over fifty five percent in those neighborhoods,

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 10>and it was just a you know, a rib a

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 10>terrible period and really you know, resulted in ultimately, I mean,

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 10>I know they're arguing otherwise, but common sense tells you.

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 10>That's why they ultimately suspended the police chief and brought

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 10>in n interim to try to try some of these strategies.

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 10>So the idea that they're you know, that we're trying

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:33.279
<v Speaker 10>to do something with fewer officers, are actually perhaps you know,

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 10>cutting even some of the technology and trying to find

0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 10>that five percent.

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 9>We don't know.

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 10>I know King Kober from the FOP has been out

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 10>publicly stating that in his view, this is just a

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:47.320
<v Speaker 10>negotiating tactic. But you know, having worked on multiple city budgets,

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 10>I can tell you you know, it is structurally imbalanced.

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 10>There's a requirement to balance it, and they're going to

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 10>be looking every way they can to do that. So

0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 10>the idea that we may actually have fewer resources in

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 10>the police department despite this up ticking gun violence is

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 10>a very real possibility, and it's just a it's a

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.440
<v Speaker 10>very sad, sad state of affairs.

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 9>I don't know how else how else to put it.

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 10>I will say this, and I never I'm not you know,

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 10>we've been I've been very critical over the years of

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 10>how our current city manager is shure a long handled

0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 10>a lout of matters. But I will say this, in

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 10>your credit. She actually preemptively declined to raise this ship.

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:28.439
<v Speaker 10>They just reviewed, you know, they reviewed her and gave

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 10>her a great review with with with much of which

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:33.359
<v Speaker 10>I would respectfully disagree.

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:35.439
<v Speaker 9>But I will say to her credit that.

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 10>You know, unlike we we've had other city managers over

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 10>over the years, who have you know, who've been you know,

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 10>pretty consistently always bumped up and paid based upon you know,

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 10>the metrics and city users. But I thought her doing

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 10>that actually was a signal that they are really looking

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 10>at making some cuts and and uh and trying to

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.320
<v Speaker 10>try to get out in front of that and actually

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 10>being cognizant of the morale issues that these cuts could

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 10>cause at city hall. So you know, I want to

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 10>give credit where it's due if they really are in

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:06.279
<v Speaker 10>a budget cutting mode where it looks like they're going

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:09.400
<v Speaker 10>to have to be her foregoing any kind of increase.

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:13.320
<v Speaker 10>You know, it did send I think a powerful signal

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 10>that they're serious about.

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 9>That, right.

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and surprising too, Steve. We're out of time, but

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 2>is always really appreciated, and please.

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.719
<v Speaker 9>Keep us posted absolutely you take care of it.

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.959
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you too, thank you. Thanks, you know, talking about

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 2>cutting a police budget by five percent, that means layoffs,

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 2>and having been on the receiving end of a police

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 2>layoff back a million years ago, that ain't fun. It's

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:42.399
<v Speaker 2>just not But I guess we'll have to see what happens. Hey,

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 2>we got to take a break, but when we get back,

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk to Mark Tapson. This guy has

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 2>a op ed piece out that defines the left and

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 2>liberals in general better than I have ever seen before,

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking forward to talking to him. His name

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 2>is Mark taps We will talk to him when we

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 2>get back. Mike Allen in for Sloany, seven hundred WLW.

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 2>It is ten thirty eight News Radio, seven hundred WLW.

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Mike Allen in for Scott Sloan. I'll tell you what

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.919
<v Speaker 2>this next guest. If you were here, I'd be giving

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 2>him a medal. He put together for Front Page magazine

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:33.359
<v Speaker 2>a piece entitled the Left is a Basket of Miserables,

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and I just want to read the first paragraph of

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.120
<v Speaker 2>it and then we'll talk to him. When hockey player

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Jack Hughes slapped the winning goal against Canada recently to

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 2>bring home Olympic gold for the United States for the

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 2>first time since the nineteen eighty miraclew on ice, all

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 2>America exalted, all except, of course, the bitter miserables of

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 2>the left. And with that, let me enter Mark Tapson.

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 2>He is the Shilman Fellow on Popular Culture at the

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 2>David Horowitz Freedom Center. And I'm telling you, Mark, that's

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.760
<v Speaker 2>as good a description as the left the whole article,

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 2>as I've ever seen.

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 11>Thanks Mike, Yeah, you know, I was kind of playing

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 11>with the the pejorative that Hillary Clinton infamously slapped on

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 11>the right, which is that we're a basket of deplorables,

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 11>which is a horrible thing to say, but it occurred

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 11>to me, especially after this Olympic victory, that the left

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.400
<v Speaker 11>should be referred to as a basket of miserables because

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 11>these people are relentlessly discontented. They're relentlessly bitter and relentlessly

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 11>angry that they live in a country that does not

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:53.240
<v Speaker 11>match the utopian vision they have of a social justice

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 11>perfect world, and that kind of politicize, that kind of

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:03.880
<v Speaker 11>political forever drives them to politicize every single aspect of

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:06.800
<v Speaker 11>their lives and our lives too now, because we're dragged

0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:10.440
<v Speaker 11>into it. Remember that slogan from the seventies, the personal

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:15.240
<v Speaker 11>is the political and vice versa. That's what has brought

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 11>our country to this current situation where Americans can't even

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:24.280
<v Speaker 11>be brought together anymore by sporting events that were divided

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 11>on every single thing, from sports to bathrooms. And that's

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:33.240
<v Speaker 11>the reason that the left is miserable all the time.

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 11>It's because leftism, by its very nature, requires its adherents

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 11>to be to live in this kind of perpetual grievance

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 11>and discontent about everything. So it's yeah, So while conservatives

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 11>exulted over this Olympic victory, the left had at best

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:56.400
<v Speaker 11>mixed feelings about it. They have this kind of cognitive dissonance,

0:54:56.440 --> 0:55:01.879
<v Speaker 11>as they called it, about simultaneously feeling good about your

0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:04.840
<v Speaker 11>country and feeling proud of the Olympic team and and

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 11>hating at the same time the Trump administration.

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:09.919
<v Speaker 2>And they got to bring that in. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 2>you this, Mark, were you surprised by.

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<v Speaker 9>Any of that?

0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Not at all.

0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 11>But it's in fact I found it kind of amusing

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 11>the degree to which they they were wringing their hands

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 11>over how to deal with this cognitive dissonance. There was

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:28.840
<v Speaker 11>a huff Post article that I was kind of spun

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 11>off of which talked about this cognitive dissonance, and the

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:38.200
<v Speaker 11>writer even spoke with a few clinical psychologists. One of

0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 11>them said that that it was an increasingly it was

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:45.799
<v Speaker 11>one of the main topics that she held space for,

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 11>as she called it, in therapy. And I thought, well,

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:52.840
<v Speaker 11>it's because progressives are They live in this kind of

0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 11>psychological turmoil constantly. They can't just live normal lives. And

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:05.280
<v Speaker 11>the right understands. You know, this is a major difference

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 11>between right and the left. The right understands that the

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 11>government is not America, that political administrations come and go,

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 11>but America, the country that we love, is sort of

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 11>above and beyond all that. The left cannot make that distinction,

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 11>and so they struggle with the fact that they live

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:32.400
<v Speaker 11>in under this fascist, totalitarian Trump and yet they're supposed

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 11>to feel good about the Olympic victory. So it's a

0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 11>real psychological conundrum for them, and unfortunately, the right tends

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:40.839
<v Speaker 11>to get dragged into it.

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Well, and here's the other thing I know from

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 2>my years of being involved in all this stuff. If

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>you get into an argument or even a discussion, although

0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 2>that's rare because they turn it into an argument with

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a liberal, they will never admit they are wrong. About anything,

0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:04.759
<v Speaker 2>And you can't have a constructive dialogue with somebody that

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 2>just sits there so arrogantly and well, you're wrong about that,

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 2>you're wrong about that, And I don't know what you

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:12.360
<v Speaker 2>do about it, or if you can do anything about it.

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:15.240
<v Speaker 11>I don't think you can do anything about it. Actually,

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 11>as someone put it, and I can't recall who. I

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 11>think it may have been, Victor Davis Hanson, but you

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 11>can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:26.040
<v Speaker 11>reason themselves into.

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 11>I think even you know, people like Charlie kirk Aside,

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 11>who you know, was able to go out and and

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 11>try to debate people and actually changed a few minds.

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:46.240
<v Speaker 11>Apart from that, I think it's literally impossible to have

0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 11>a reason debate with the left because, as you put it,

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 11>they they simply cannot admit and will not admit that

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:59.440
<v Speaker 11>their positions might be wrong. Right, Yeah, it's they and

0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 11>they also so they just they never play defense. They

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:07.640
<v Speaker 11>never are thrown on the defensive. They always always play offense.

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:10.120
<v Speaker 11>And that's that's a lesson that conservatives actually need to

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 11>take the heart, no.

0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Question about it. And you know, I mean I've been

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 2>arguing with them for a long time. And you know

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:20.600
<v Speaker 2>one other thing too, and I can personally attest to

0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:26.480
<v Speaker 2>this unfortunately, I mean, it even infects families and relationships

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 2>between family members. And you know, let's just say, oh

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 2>it's me if I say, you know, family is way

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:39.920
<v Speaker 2>up here and politics is way down there. That's just

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 2>a foreign concept to them. You know, it's like you said,

0:58:43.520 --> 0:58:45.960
<v Speaker 2>everything has to be about politics.

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 11>Well, you know, every holiday that rolls around, especially Thanksgiving,

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 11>when families across America tend to get together and you know,

0:58:56.440 --> 0:59:00.480
<v Speaker 11>celebrate this country. Every time a holiday like that role around,

0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 11>the left puts out a bunch of articles about this

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 11>is how you should talk to your your racist uncle

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 11>about why he's wrong, and it's it's so tiresome and

0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 11>it's so antagonistic, that is, it's really pretty disgusting. But

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 11>their aim, of course, I mean, the far left's aim

0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 11>is to divide and conquer, and it's especially hell bent

0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:30.160
<v Speaker 11>literally on dividing and breaking up families because that's that's

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 11>the that's the ultimate goal of neo cultural Marxist is

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 11>the abolition of the family, as Karl Marx put it

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 11>very bluntly. So that's every time a holiday rolls around.

0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:46.880
<v Speaker 11>You're reminded that they have made politics the center of

0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 11>their lives, and if you disagree with them, even if

0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:54.160
<v Speaker 11>you're related or even closely related, they'll cut you off

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:58.760
<v Speaker 11>if you don't reject the opinions they disagree with.

0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you that is you wouldn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>accurate that is, just the way they are. And one

1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:09.440
<v Speaker 2>thing about them too that I enjoy, and I've enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>through the years, it's fun to piss them off. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's really kind of easy too. I get people calling

1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:18.760
<v Speaker 2>into this show and my Saturday show Lives, and every

1:00:18.760 --> 1:00:20.720
<v Speaker 2>once in a while they'll call, and I like when

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:23.960
<v Speaker 2>they do. But you know, when they start yelling and screaming,

1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:28.000
<v Speaker 2>it's really easy to set them into orbit. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know that's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, Conservatives tend to come at them with facts, yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>and you know, real world concepts, and that's not the

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<v Speaker 11>world that the left lives in the world lives. The

1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:46.360
<v Speaker 11>left lives in this world of this utopian vision of

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<v Speaker 11>theirs in which everything can be deconstructed and reconstructed according

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<v Speaker 11>to the way they believe the world should be. So

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<v Speaker 11>human nature, for example, which conservatives just accept as a

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<v Speaker 11>fact of life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a real thing for the left.

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<v Speaker 11>The left believes that there is no such thing as

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<v Speaker 11>human nature, that everything is socially constructed, and therefore you

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<v Speaker 11>can anything that's faulty about human nature, you can break down,

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<v Speaker 11>deconstruct it, get rid of it, and socially engineer a

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<v Speaker 11>more perfect society. And so they live in this impossibly

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<v Speaker 11>unrealistic world that just drives them to constant bitterness and

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<v Speaker 11>frustration and discontent.

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<v Speaker 2>No question about it. There are so many things in

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<v Speaker 2>this op ed piece that I absolutely love. But just

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<v Speaker 2>bear with me. I want to read another paragraph. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a relatively short one, talking about Trump derangement syndrome. One

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<v Speaker 2>such Trump derangement syndrome sufferer tweeted about the Olympics. Quote

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<v Speaker 2>Trump did this. He made it impossible to be proud

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<v Speaker 2>of anything American. It's straight up embarrassing and shameful to

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<v Speaker 2>be an American. Now, f Trump f ice this whole

1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:10.520
<v Speaker 2>corrupt administration, The Bitter Miserable concluded. The Bitter Miserable concluded

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<v Speaker 2>in the less profane in articulate style. And you are

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<v Speaker 2>so so right about that, Martin. I mean, it's always

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<v Speaker 2>got to be tinged with either obscenity or some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of anger. I mean, you've got to give them one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The Left, they're consistent, consistently wrong.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, the whole profanity thing. I'm constantly pointing out. Part

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<v Speaker 11>of the reason for that is because they despise bourgeois

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<v Speaker 11>or middle class values and they love profanity.

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<v Speaker 2>They're constantly spewing it.

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<v Speaker 11>Because they love to sort of throw that in the

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<v Speaker 11>face of more restrained, conservative minded middle class people.

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<v Speaker 2>They love to attack that value.

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<v Speaker 11>And also the other thing is they're just not good

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<v Speaker 11>at articulating their positions because because they can't rationally defend

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<v Speaker 11>those positions, so they're just reduced to spewing f words

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<v Speaker 11>every chance they get. And it's it's completely ineffective as

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<v Speaker 11>a as a debating tool. But because it's just that's

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<v Speaker 11>the point of it is that it kind of shuts

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<v Speaker 11>down debate.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, and we're getting so crass in this society,

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<v Speaker 2>not just politically but everything. And you know, I mean fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five years ago, if you would have seen that,

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I mean, the FCC probably would have jerked

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<v Speaker 2>the license of a talk show host that said something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But you know, it's acceptable now, let me

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<v Speaker 2>ask you this, It's probably the hardest question of all.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you see this headed Mark taps and is

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<v Speaker 2>it ever going to be where they're I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say reconciliation, but maybe at least you're able to

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<v Speaker 2>have a discussion with someone on the other end of

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<v Speaker 2>the political spectrum, or do you think it'll get worse? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to be I wish I could be more.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm a little more.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm.

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<v Speaker 11>Personally kind of optimistic in the long run, but in

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<v Speaker 11>the short run, I'm very pessimistic. I think we're headed. Look,

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<v Speaker 11>we're we're already in a hot civil war. We're not

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<v Speaker 11>you know, we're not just at each other's throats or

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<v Speaker 11>verging on civil war. We're already in a civil war

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<v Speaker 11>in which one side is waging violence against the other side.

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<v Speaker 11>So I think it's just going to get worse until

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<v Speaker 11>the far left, which currently controls the Democrat Party, is

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<v Speaker 11>somehow burns itself out, or we just or the right

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<v Speaker 11>just successfully confronts it over and over again until it's spent.

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<v Speaker 11>Because there's no reconciliation. There's currently no reconciliation between right

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<v Speaker 11>and left. Were with each other on every single issue.

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<v Speaker 11>There's a grand canyon sized gulf between us at the moment.

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<v Speaker 11>It just cannot be bridged by dialogue alone. I think

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<v Speaker 11>the far left has to be destroyed and we have

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<v Speaker 11>to get back to a country in which.

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<v Speaker 2>We might be at odds with each.

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<v Speaker 11>Other, even vehemently so, but that we're not in a

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<v Speaker 11>civil war and we're not committing violence against each other.

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<v Speaker 2>That's got to go, no question about it. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to end this interview with again just reading a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of paragraphs. That's the end of your piece, which again

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell my listeners it is from Front Page magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>The left is a basket of miserables. Okay, here's the

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<v Speaker 2>end of it. As one conservative ex user commented about

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<v Speaker 2>the about the where do they get okay, about the

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<v Speaker 2>purporting cognitive dissonance, and you were talking about that. If

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<v Speaker 2>you can't separate things, you need to work on your

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<v Speaker 2>adulting skills. Sound advice. This is this is the weenie.

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<v Speaker 2>If you will, Oklahoma Republican Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's the one that will now be he'll have the

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<v Speaker 2>job that Christy Noam had with respect to Ice. Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Wayne Mullen responded on next to the huff Post piece,

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<v Speaker 2>and as you said, that's where you know you were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of answering that quote. And this is Senator Mullen.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't be excited about winning gold at the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 2>including in overtime versus Canada, you don't have a pulse.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people will pick victimhood and being miserable over having

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<v Speaker 2>an ounce of patriotism. Good luck, And the last thing

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<v Speaker 2>response to that, Randy Fine, a Florida Republican, was a

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<v Speaker 2>little more blunt. Get the hell out of my country, USA, USA, USA.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Mark for right reading that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>tempted to take it home and frame it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want as many people as I can to read it,

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<v Speaker 2>because in I don't know, four or five short pages,

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<v Speaker 2>you nailed it, absolutely nailed it. Thanks Mike.

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<v Speaker 9>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, anything you want to say before we get out

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<v Speaker 2>of here, How people can get ahold of you?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, a couple of places. One you could go to

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<v Speaker 11>my substack. It's Mark Tapson dot substack dot com. And

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<v Speaker 11>also go to front pagemag dot com, which is the

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<v Speaker 11>flagship website of the David Horwitz Freedom Center, which I

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<v Speaker 11>write for.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you so much, and hope we can call

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<v Speaker 2>on you again.

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<v Speaker 9>Sounds good. I'd look forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you all right. You know, I can tend

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<v Speaker 2>to maybe exaggerate sometimes I'm not I'm not on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I read so much of this stuff, but this one

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<v Speaker 2>just nails it, absolutely nails it with respect to the

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<v Speaker 2>Left and how they conduct themselves. And we're never going

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<v Speaker 2>to have any kind of dialogue with one, not budging

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<v Speaker 2>an inch because they think they're always right about everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It just ain't gonna work anyway. We need to take

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<v Speaker 2>a break. But when we get back, boy, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what I used to think. There were two places

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<v Speaker 2>in the world where you had to behave yourself. One

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<v Speaker 2>is church and the other is a courtroom. Not so anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back, we're going to talk to Judge

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Greenberg about what's going on down the courthouse, not

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<v Speaker 2>just our courthouse, but all around the country. We'll do

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<v Speaker 2>that when we get back. Mike Allen in for Sloaney

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be an American Idiot?

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<v Speaker 2>Home of the Reds seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in

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<v Speaker 2>for Sloaney. Well, you know, like I said in the

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<v Speaker 2>intro coming out of the news or before the news here,

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<v Speaker 2>I always think there are two places where you have

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<v Speaker 2>to behave yourself. You have to behave yourself. That's church

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<v Speaker 2>and the other one is a courtroom. Well you can

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<v Speaker 2>throw church out now with Don Lemon and others invading

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<v Speaker 2>a church, and the court room is having their problems too.

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<v Speaker 2>Here to talk about it is Judge Brad Greenberg of

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<v Speaker 2>the Hamilton County Municipal Court. He served in UNI court

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<v Speaker 2>since two thousand and six. He also presides over the

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton County Veterans Court, which is a great great court.

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<v Speaker 2>He represents Judicial District five, and I think people should

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<v Speaker 2>know the districts and which judges you can vote for.

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<v Speaker 2>District five include Sycamore Township, Simms Township, Loveland, Blue Ash, Montgomery, Sharonville, Madera,

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<v Speaker 2>Indian Hill, Reading, Deer Park, Springdale, Glendale, Evendale and Terrace Park.

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<v Speaker 2>Here to talk about a great piece that he authored

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't know about a week or so ago,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more than that. It's entitled there must

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<v Speaker 2>be zero tolerance for violence in our courts, And he's

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<v Speaker 2>so right judge, thank you so much for joining us

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<v Speaker 2>this morning.

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<v Speaker 12>Hi Mike, thanks for having me on and it's great

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<v Speaker 12>to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Judge, Tell me what prompted you to write

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<v Speaker 2>the op ed that you did. I know there was

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<v Speaker 2>an incident a few weeks before that where people really

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<v Speaker 2>got out of hand at the courthouse, but before anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I agree with you one hundred percent, but

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<v Speaker 2>what prompted you to write it?

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<v Speaker 9>So you're right.

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<v Speaker 12>On February twenty fourth, there was a big crowd in

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<v Speaker 12>Judge Robert Winkler's courtroom as a defendant was pleading guilty

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<v Speaker 12>in a murder case and he was being sentenced to prison.

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<v Speaker 12>And as the defendant was being escorted out of the courtroom,

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<v Speaker 12>a member of the victim's family actually attempted to attack

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<v Speaker 12>him in the hallway. And at that point it was

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<v Speaker 12>on and we had a full fledged melee at the courthouse.

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<v Speaker 12>And I'm sorry to go eighteen deputies.

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<v Speaker 2>They responded, WHOA wow, it's a heck of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of deputies that maybe not that bad, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>becoming something that is a problem. Now. I started going

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<v Speaker 2>in courtrooms a million years ago, and man, you've never

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<v Speaker 2>saw anything like that. But across the country, it sure

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<v Speaker 2>seems like we're seeing more of it. Why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that is?

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<v Speaker 12>You know, it's like all things across our society, just

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<v Speaker 12>behavior has been getting worse. You see it on airplanes,

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<v Speaker 12>you see it in churches, and unfortunately, you see it

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<v Speaker 12>in the courthouse.

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<v Speaker 9>You do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did a little research for this, and according

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<v Speaker 2>to AI, surge in judicial threats. There is a surge

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<v Speaker 2>in this, and it is it's getting to be a

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<v Speaker 2>situation where more and more judges in every court are

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<v Speaker 2>going through this. I mean, does the Sheriff's office, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they do, but does anybody keep tabs on how

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<v Speaker 2>many we have of these? In Hamilton County?

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<v Speaker 12>The sheriff McGuffey is keeping tabs on it. We've met

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<v Speaker 12>with her, had discussions about it. And you're right, the threats,

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<v Speaker 12>the emails, they've increased over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I mean, I don't know, It's just something

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<v Speaker 2>that I had hoped i'd never see again, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that happens all the time. UNI court's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different. I used to call it, respectfully, the McDonald's

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<v Speaker 2>of the justice system, because you got to crank it

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<v Speaker 2>pretty fast, but you got to do it right. So

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<v Speaker 2>it tends to attract a lot more people. If someone

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<v Speaker 2>judge acts up in your courtroom, is it an automatic

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<v Speaker 2>contempt citation from you or do you think about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I know from my three years on Unie court

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes that's kind of a hard decision to make.

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<v Speaker 12>Can be a hard decision, but I think the duty

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<v Speaker 12>is on the judge to order right. The sheriff's do

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<v Speaker 12>a great job, but the judge plays a role too.

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<v Speaker 6>And if someone is really acting up and creating a

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<v Speaker 6>danger in the courtroom, in my courtroom, at least, I

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<v Speaker 6>would normally hold them in contempt of court and they

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<v Speaker 6>would face a jail sentence if it's a first offense,

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<v Speaker 6>up to thirty days in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, tell us what contempt. The penalty for contempt is.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's somewhat fluid, I guess, but let's just

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<v Speaker 2>say somebody acts up in your courtroom and you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's inappropriate and want to do something about it. What

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<v Speaker 2>is the penalty for criminal contempt?

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<v Speaker 12>So for a first offense, the maximum is thirty days

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<v Speaker 12>in jail in a two hundred and fifty dollars fine,

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<v Speaker 12>and then for a second offense up to sixty days

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<v Speaker 12>in jail or five hundred dollars fine, and then for

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<v Speaker 12>a third offense in any subsequent offense, ninety days in

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<v Speaker 12>jail in one thousand dollars fine. But it is rare

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<v Speaker 12>that contempt a coret sentences are imposed, but it is

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<v Speaker 12>a possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's getting more frequent. I'm afraid you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>did a little research for this year, honor, and found

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<v Speaker 2>a from June twenty seventh, twenty twenty four, an article

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<v Speaker 2>from judges dot org. Over half of judges report threats

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<v Speaker 2>environment affecting mental health. And the whole purpose of this

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<v Speaker 2>this piece is that this is something that's putting a

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<v Speaker 2>strain on judges. Just let me quoted one. This is

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<v Speaker 2>one random judge quote. Society continues to be less civil

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<v Speaker 2>in the norms of respecting authority, or figures that represent

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<v Speaker 2>authority are being eroded close quote. I think that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that pretty good, don't you.

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<v Speaker 12>I agree it does, and you know we I understand

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<v Speaker 12>emotions can run high in the courthouse. It is important

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<v Speaker 12>that decisions are being made that affect people's lives. But

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<v Speaker 12>there's no excuse to act a fool in the courthouse.

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<v Speaker 12>And you know if you do, you should be expect

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<v Speaker 12>to face some consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you, And I don't want you to get in

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<v Speaker 2>any trouble with your fellow judges, But do you believe

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<v Speaker 2>that some judges just let it go and don't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything about it, which of course is their call to make.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 12>We have a lot of new judges in the in

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<v Speaker 12>the courthouse over the last several years, and you have to.

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<v Speaker 12>As I said, it's the main responsibility is on the

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<v Speaker 12>sheriffs to keep the peace, but the judges have a

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<v Speaker 12>duty too, and we have to to back the sheriffs

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<v Speaker 12>h and help maintain order in the courthouse. And judges

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<v Speaker 12>should be imposing contempt to court inappropriate circumstances. And also

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<v Speaker 12>the offender should also be prosecuted to the fullest extent

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<v Speaker 12>of the law if they commit a crime while they're

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<v Speaker 12>in the courthouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yah, you just you have to. I mean, in some

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<v Speaker 2>murder cases up in common and please that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>involved in and others that I just heard about, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really a problem up there because of a judge you know,

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<v Speaker 2>gives you a healthy sentence, you know, twenty to life

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. It's going to rile some people up and

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<v Speaker 2>just the thought of well, I'm not going to take

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<v Speaker 2>this out in the hallway and talk to my family

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<v Speaker 2>member friend, I'm going to just open my mouth and

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<v Speaker 2>start running my mouth right here. And we did have

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<v Speaker 2>a former sitting judge do that. I was there to

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<v Speaker 2>see that, and I'm talking about Tracy Hunter. That was

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<v Speaker 2>just appalling for the public to have to see that.

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<v Speaker 12>It is you know, we have jurors that come to

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<v Speaker 12>the courthouse, we have victims that come to the courthouse,

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<v Speaker 12>and everyone should feel safe when they come to the

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<v Speaker 12>courthouse and not to not have to see or be

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<v Speaker 12>a witness to crime or foolishness or misbehavior. And the

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<v Speaker 12>judges need to step up and maintain order themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this. I mean, this is something

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<v Speaker 2>from the research I've done, this is something that is

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<v Speaker 2>going up. Also, the actual threats to judges. Obviously a

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<v Speaker 2>judge has to take those seriously, but it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be there's an increase in that. Have you ever had

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<v Speaker 2>that situation judge that you want to talk about or

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<v Speaker 2>do you think that's something that's increasing too.

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<v Speaker 12>It is increasing. I think it's judges are much more

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<v Speaker 12>accessible because of the Internet, so it's very easy to

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<v Speaker 12>find a judge's email or even a judge's home address.

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<v Speaker 12>So it's pretty common now for judges to receive threatening

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<v Speaker 12>emails or harassing emails, and it's just part of the job, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 12>is having to deal with that, and judges need to

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<v Speaker 12>be able to protect themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no question about it, and I think be vigilant too, Judge.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know the mental state of some of

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<v Speaker 2>the people that come before you as a judge, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a knock on people that are having problems,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know that from the judges I've talked to,

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems like it's increasing. Judge, Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>anything else to say on this subject. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>turn it over to you at this point because I've

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<v Speaker 2>asked the questions I wanted to ask.

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<v Speaker 9>Well.

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<v Speaker 12>I appreciate the opportunity to talk about this because, as

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<v Speaker 12>you said at the beginning, you know, church and court

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<v Speaker 12>are the two places where you're expected to behave and

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<v Speaker 12>it's unfortunate that things have been trending in the wrong

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<v Speaker 12>direction the last thirty years. I've been in the courtroom

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<v Speaker 12>for thirty years. The last pointy is a judge, and

1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:54.880
<v Speaker 12>things have been going in the wrong direction. But you

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<v Speaker 12>know it's up to the judges to maintain order. And

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<v Speaker 12>if you, you know, come into my core room and

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<v Speaker 12>you are planning on causing trouble, you better bring a toothbrush.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. I like that. I lied one more question.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you seeing I don't know, say, over the last

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<v Speaker 2>ten years or so, a decrease in the number of

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<v Speaker 2>cases in municipal court.

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<v Speaker 12>We have seen a decrease and that's probably some of

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<v Speaker 12>that is a good thing. We get less d UI's

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<v Speaker 12>in court, and I think that's a function of uber

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<v Speaker 12>and left and just general education about the dangers of

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<v Speaker 12>drinking and driving. So I think it's a good thing

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<v Speaker 12>when there's when there's less less.

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<v Speaker 2>Cases, no question about it. And with respect to DUIs

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<v Speaker 2>my twenty years of a criminal defense practice, in the

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<v Speaker 2>last ten years or so, they have really dwindled because

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<v Speaker 2>I think these young people are smart enough to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>call an uber or find another the way home. Besides that,

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<v Speaker 2>and again, uh, if you lose, if you lose clients

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<v Speaker 2>that way, it's a good thing. Judge. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate you coming on. You have an open

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<v Speaker 2>invitation to come here and talk to me and my

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<v Speaker 2>listeners anytime something comes up.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you, Mike, thanks for having me on my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Judge by by all right, Judge Brad Greenberg,

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<v Speaker 2>And I gotta tell you I didn't want to embarrass him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's definitely one of the good ones. I appeared before

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<v Speaker 2>him a number of times as a criminal defense attorney.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, he's not a guy that talks a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and judges the less they talk, the less they get

1:20:39.200 --> 1:20:43.000
<v Speaker 2>themselves in trouble. But fair, Uh, you know, the old thing,

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<v Speaker 2>fair and firm. And I just can't say enough about

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<v Speaker 2>Judge Brad Greenberg. And I know he's up for election

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<v Speaker 2>coming up soon.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't the reason I had him on, because it

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<v Speaker 2>is a very good topic. But anyway, bottom line, I

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<v Speaker 2>take a heck of a lot of the Honorable Brad

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<v Speaker 2>Greenberg of the Hamilt County Municipal Court. Hey, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break, but we'll be back. Mike Allen

1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:19.960
<v Speaker 2>in for Sloaney seven hundred WLW. Hey we're back, Mike

1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Allen in for Sloaney, seven hundred WLW. I'll tell you

1:21:24.800 --> 1:21:30.000
<v Speaker 2>what Judge Greenberg was great, and I just I can't

1:21:30.520 --> 1:21:33.160
<v Speaker 2>say how much that I admire him for the job

1:21:33.200 --> 1:21:36.680
<v Speaker 2>that he does. And unfortunately, I think you're going to

1:21:36.760 --> 1:21:41.479
<v Speaker 2>see those things, the incidents in the courtroom continuing, and again,

1:21:42.000 --> 1:21:46.680
<v Speaker 2>as the thing that I've read from my research, it's

1:21:46.760 --> 1:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>a function I think of the society becoming more violent,

1:21:52.160 --> 1:21:55.679
<v Speaker 2>more crass. I mean, if you can't stand before a judge,

1:21:55.720 --> 1:21:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't care if it's for a parking ticket or

1:21:58.880 --> 1:22:03.400
<v Speaker 2>a homicide case. You just behave yourself, you know. I mean,

1:22:03.760 --> 1:22:06.880
<v Speaker 2>it's not that much too much to ask. And I

1:22:07.000 --> 1:22:09.559
<v Speaker 2>was glad to hear him say that. The response to

1:22:09.680 --> 1:22:13.360
<v Speaker 2>what happened, the one we've talking about a few weeks

1:22:13.400 --> 1:22:18.760
<v Speaker 2>before that, eighteen deputies responded to it so and I

1:22:18.800 --> 1:22:21.760
<v Speaker 2>can't say enough about them too. I mean, the deputies

1:22:21.800 --> 1:22:25.320
<v Speaker 2>that are in the courtroom every day, they've got a

1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:29.320
<v Speaker 2>tough job, and people are screened as they come in,

1:22:29.479 --> 1:22:32.519
<v Speaker 2>but I mean, you never know when something is going

1:22:32.560 --> 1:22:37.160
<v Speaker 2>to get through, and judges need to know, lawyers need

1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:40.560
<v Speaker 2>to know, Litigants need to know that they are being protected,

1:22:41.000 --> 1:22:44.120
<v Speaker 2>especially when it comes to jury trials. I mean, you

1:22:44.200 --> 1:22:48.240
<v Speaker 2>think it's hard getting jurors now if this thing continues,

1:22:48.280 --> 1:22:51.439
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be even more difficult to get them.

1:22:51.640 --> 1:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>They just don't want to serve, They don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go down there. And then they read things like was

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<v Speaker 2>in the paper a couple of weeks ago from Cameron Knight.

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<v Speaker 2>Families fighting at the Hamilt County Courthouse on February twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fourth drew a large police response and resulted in multiple charges.

1:23:09.720 --> 1:23:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Good Two groups of people at the courthouse for a

1:23:13.000 --> 1:23:18.120
<v Speaker 2>hearing had a confrontation inside, prompting police and SHARE's deputies

1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:21.880
<v Speaker 2>to respond to help courthouse staff. And you know, that's

1:23:21.920 --> 1:23:25.400
<v Speaker 2>what happens, and it's usually families. You got one family,

1:23:25.840 --> 1:23:28.519
<v Speaker 2>then you got another family. You know, I guess, kind

1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:31.759
<v Speaker 2>of like a Hatfield McCoy's deal. And if it doesn't

1:23:31.760 --> 1:23:34.439
<v Speaker 2>go to one the way one of the families wants, well,

1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:37.280
<v Speaker 2>then you know, let's act up in the courthouse. And

1:23:37.520 --> 1:23:40.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, as the judge said, you have to come

1:23:40.640 --> 1:23:44.679
<v Speaker 2>down hard on people like that. You have to. When

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<v Speaker 2>I was a judge, I mean, it's gosh, I guess, oh,

1:23:48.600 --> 1:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>from probably eighty nine, no, yeah, eighty nine to I

1:23:56.800 --> 1:24:00.000
<v Speaker 2>guess ninety three or something like that. I don't remember

1:24:00.360 --> 1:24:04.800
<v Speaker 2>ever seeing one of those things. Happen in my courtroom.

1:24:05.400 --> 1:24:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it did and I forgot about it, but you

1:24:08.280 --> 1:24:11.400
<v Speaker 2>just didn't see it then. And especially in Room Ay,

1:24:11.560 --> 1:24:14.320
<v Speaker 2>that's the big room where they do all the arraignments,

1:24:14.320 --> 1:24:16.840
<v Speaker 2>where you could have two three hundred cases on the

1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:21.360
<v Speaker 2>docket in one morning. That's where people tended to act up.

1:24:21.600 --> 1:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>But again, you just got to come down hard on

1:24:24.360 --> 1:24:27.599
<v Speaker 2>them and make sure you make an example of them.

1:24:28.080 --> 1:24:30.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think judges are starting to get that. You know,

1:24:30.720 --> 1:24:32.360
<v Speaker 2>the one thing I got into with the judge a

1:24:32.400 --> 1:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit, but are threats to judges online, threats, letters

1:24:37.439 --> 1:24:40.120
<v Speaker 2>to their home and that type of thing. That is

1:24:40.160 --> 1:24:43.880
<v Speaker 2>something that is extremely serious, and I think law enforcement

1:24:44.280 --> 1:24:47.360
<v Speaker 2>realizes that, hey, we got to take a break, but

1:24:47.439 --> 1:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>when we get back, we're going to talk to Christopher Smithman.

1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Haven't talked to him in a while and want to

1:24:51.920 --> 1:24:53.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of catch up with him. I want to ask

1:24:53.640 --> 1:24:57.519
<v Speaker 2>him too about the goings on in city council. A

1:24:57.560 --> 1:25:00.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of things happening with The one thing that that

1:25:01.360 --> 1:25:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Steve Gooden kind of tipped me off on is the

1:25:04.800 --> 1:25:09.040
<v Speaker 2>proposed five percent cut. I'll tell you what I know

1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:13.799
<v Speaker 2>this from personal things that happened to me in nineteen

1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:17.479
<v Speaker 2>seventy six. The first thing they go after is the

1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:20.400
<v Speaker 2>police budget, so I certainly hope there's not going to

1:25:20.400 --> 1:25:23.080
<v Speaker 2>be layoffs. But anyway, we'll talk to Christopher about that

1:25:23.320 --> 1:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>and other things. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back.

1:25:33.520 --> 1:25:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Mike Allen in for Scott Sloan. We haven't checked in

1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>with our friend Christopher Smithman in a while and wanted

1:25:41.120 --> 1:25:43.640
<v Speaker 2>to see how he's doing. I need to get his

1:25:43.720 --> 1:25:46.800
<v Speaker 2>opinion on some things. Christopher, thanks so much for calling

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<v Speaker 2>in this morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Mike, Thank you so much for having me on.

1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:54.920
<v Speaker 2>My Pleasure, My pleasure. Hey, I gotta ask you, and

1:25:55.040 --> 1:25:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I know this isn't obviously a local topic, but I'm

1:25:58.200 --> 1:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>really interested and I'm sure my list are too. Your

1:26:01.800 --> 1:26:05.040
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on the war that broke out, and I know

1:26:05.160 --> 1:26:09.200
<v Speaker 2>everybody is praying for, you know, the people involved in it,

1:26:09.280 --> 1:26:10.320
<v Speaker 2>but your.

1:26:10.120 --> 1:26:15.080
<v Speaker 7>Thoughts, well, my heart first goes out to the seven

1:26:15.320 --> 1:26:19.920
<v Speaker 7>Americans that lost their life in Kuwait, and that's a

1:26:19.960 --> 1:26:23.360
<v Speaker 7>part of war, and we don't we don't often see

1:26:23.560 --> 1:26:28.840
<v Speaker 7>American soldiers, servicemen, men and women coming home. So my

1:26:29.040 --> 1:26:31.680
<v Speaker 7>heart like yours, and I know that a lot of

1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:36.400
<v Speaker 7>those a lot of those servicemen and women came from Iowa,

1:26:36.520 --> 1:26:40.639
<v Speaker 7>not all of them, they certainly are bearing a burden here,

1:26:40.720 --> 1:26:43.479
<v Speaker 7>so my heart goes out to their families. My other

1:26:43.520 --> 1:26:46.000
<v Speaker 7>connection is I have a son that's that has served

1:26:46.040 --> 1:26:50.240
<v Speaker 7>and is in the Guard himself now, and my father served.

1:26:50.280 --> 1:26:51.960
<v Speaker 7>I have a brother.

1:26:51.720 --> 1:26:52.400
<v Speaker 6>Who has served.

1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:54.720
<v Speaker 7>I have not served, But I think this is that

1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:58.519
<v Speaker 7>moment where all of us as a country have to

1:26:58.560 --> 1:27:02.400
<v Speaker 7>wrap our arms around being an American and support the

1:27:02.400 --> 1:27:07.080
<v Speaker 7>White House and support our country in this moment. You know,

1:27:07.200 --> 1:27:11.160
<v Speaker 7>I've been watching the senators and the congressional members who

1:27:11.200 --> 1:27:15.720
<v Speaker 7>seem to continue to second guess what is happening. Let

1:27:15.760 --> 1:27:18.240
<v Speaker 7>me just remind everyone that this has been going on

1:27:18.320 --> 1:27:22.520
<v Speaker 7>for forty seven years through many different presidents, Democrats and Republicans,

1:27:23.680 --> 1:27:27.599
<v Speaker 7>and this is a country that whatever the account is

1:27:27.600 --> 1:27:30.599
<v Speaker 7>of the number of civilians that they killed who were

1:27:30.640 --> 1:27:34.720
<v Speaker 7>protesting ten thousand to thirty six thousand, we really don't

1:27:34.760 --> 1:27:36.960
<v Speaker 7>know what the number is, but we know that it's

1:27:37.160 --> 1:27:40.240
<v Speaker 7>tens of thousands of people who are slaughtered in the streets.

1:27:41.000 --> 1:27:44.320
<v Speaker 7>So there's a humanitarian issue going on. We know that

1:27:44.439 --> 1:27:47.639
<v Speaker 7>this is a country that has been sponsoring terrorism all

1:27:47.680 --> 1:27:52.160
<v Speaker 7>around the world, but specifically targeting Americans and specifically American

1:27:52.240 --> 1:27:55.720
<v Speaker 7>servicemen and women. And this is a country that said

1:27:55.760 --> 1:27:58.400
<v Speaker 7>that they wanted a nuclear weapon and wanted long term

1:27:58.560 --> 1:28:03.360
<v Speaker 7>missiles in order to reach the United States and anybody

1:28:03.680 --> 1:28:07.280
<v Speaker 7>who stood against them, including Israel. My point in saying

1:28:07.320 --> 1:28:11.440
<v Speaker 7>all of that is that we have to, as Americans,

1:28:11.439 --> 1:28:16.400
<v Speaker 7>in my opinion, carry the flag today. You know, respect

1:28:16.479 --> 1:28:18.800
<v Speaker 7>those who are losing their life and who are on

1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:21.479
<v Speaker 7>the front lines and have the potential of loss of

1:28:21.520 --> 1:28:26.560
<v Speaker 7>life our military, and support the president in this decision

1:28:27.320 --> 1:28:31.280
<v Speaker 7>to go in and decide that he and and those

1:28:31.360 --> 1:28:34.600
<v Speaker 7>in the CIA, those generals that are around him, that

1:28:34.720 --> 1:28:37.200
<v Speaker 7>this was the moment that we needed to take. And

1:28:37.360 --> 1:28:39.880
<v Speaker 7>I don't like second guessing our country. These are tough

1:28:39.920 --> 1:28:42.719
<v Speaker 7>decisions with a lot of movie parts that I don't

1:28:42.760 --> 1:28:45.479
<v Speaker 7>have enough information. That's why we elect people and put

1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:49.080
<v Speaker 7>them in positions like Alan to make these decisions for us.

1:28:49.240 --> 1:28:51.640
<v Speaker 7>But what I will tell you is I'm all American.

1:28:51.720 --> 1:28:54.559
<v Speaker 7>I'm on the American team. I'm not on the team

1:28:54.600 --> 1:28:57.920
<v Speaker 7>of Iran. I'm on the team of this country. And

1:28:57.960 --> 1:29:00.720
<v Speaker 7>I want to see us win. I want to see

1:29:00.760 --> 1:29:03.200
<v Speaker 7>us to get out as like everybody probably listening I

1:29:03.200 --> 1:29:05.479
<v Speaker 7>want us to get out as quickly as we possibly can,

1:29:05.920 --> 1:29:07.840
<v Speaker 7>but I want us to spend the time that we

1:29:07.960 --> 1:29:10.000
<v Speaker 7>need to be there so that we don't have to

1:29:10.000 --> 1:29:11.440
<v Speaker 7>come back and do this again.

1:29:11.560 --> 1:29:15.519
<v Speaker 2>No question about it. I've got a daughter. She's a captain.

1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:19.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, well should get mad. She's promoted to major

1:29:19.640 --> 1:29:22.679
<v Speaker 2>in the Jag Corps. She's stationed in the Wow.

1:29:26.040 --> 1:29:28.080
<v Speaker 7>Look, don't don't mess up her rank.

1:29:31.240 --> 1:29:34.320
<v Speaker 2>That she's she's in the jag corts. And and the

1:29:34.360 --> 1:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>thought would be initially, well, you know, lawyer, they're not

1:29:36.920 --> 1:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>going to do anything. I'm gonna tell you something. The

1:29:38.920 --> 1:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Army now takes their jag officers with them when they

1:29:42.920 --> 1:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>go out in the field for the real deal. So

1:29:45.800 --> 1:29:48.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, she's obviously in my in my thoughts and

1:29:48.600 --> 1:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>of course in my prayers.

1:29:50.080 --> 1:29:53.080
<v Speaker 7>But really, let me thank her for her service, Mike

1:29:53.160 --> 1:29:57.000
<v Speaker 7>Allen publicly for everyone, because anybody that is serving, because

1:29:57.080 --> 1:30:01.760
<v Speaker 7>when we're talking about incident of drones attacks, which is

1:30:01.760 --> 1:30:05.599
<v Speaker 7>what happened on Kuwai Base, anybody is at risk. So

1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:08.879
<v Speaker 7>we thank your daughter for her service to our country.

1:30:09.000 --> 1:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Hey, I wanted to talk to you too.

1:30:11.400 --> 1:30:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I had Steve Gooden on earlier we talked about some

1:30:14.200 --> 1:30:17.360
<v Speaker 2>legal things. But of course Steve a former Cincinnati City

1:30:17.400 --> 1:30:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Council member and chair of the Revitalized Charter Committee, so

1:30:21.960 --> 1:30:25.719
<v Speaker 2>he knows what's going on down there. He's talking about

1:30:25.760 --> 1:30:29.639
<v Speaker 2>a five police cut, well, a five percent I think

1:30:29.680 --> 1:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>across the board cut. And I know you're not down

1:30:32.920 --> 1:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>there anymore, former Vice mayor and chair of the Law

1:30:35.760 --> 1:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>and Public Safety Committee. But your thoughts on that, Christopher, Well, you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know, the first responsibility of the mayor and members of

1:30:44.840 --> 1:30:49.400
<v Speaker 7>council is the public safety. And we've seen a big

1:30:49.439 --> 1:30:54.120
<v Speaker 7>spike in violence even over the last ten days, the

1:30:54.160 --> 1:30:58.360
<v Speaker 7>mass shooting that we had of nine people approximately, I

1:30:58.400 --> 1:31:01.920
<v Speaker 7>think eleven people shot in the last seven days. Three

1:31:02.080 --> 1:31:05.839
<v Speaker 7>did and so this is not the time for counsel

1:31:06.640 --> 1:31:09.160
<v Speaker 7>or for the mayor to say we need to reduce

1:31:10.000 --> 1:31:14.080
<v Speaker 7>funding in public safety. It's the exact opposite. And because

1:31:14.160 --> 1:31:18.120
<v Speaker 7>we're having issues with retention, meaning our ability to recruit

1:31:18.280 --> 1:31:22.040
<v Speaker 7>is one issue, but our ability to keep those seasoned

1:31:22.120 --> 1:31:25.320
<v Speaker 7>officers right now who are in drop and a lot

1:31:25.320 --> 1:31:28.120
<v Speaker 7>of people don't even know what drop is, but we've

1:31:28.120 --> 1:31:30.360
<v Speaker 7>got officers that are two years and three years in

1:31:30.400 --> 1:31:32.519
<v Speaker 7>the drop. They can walk away right now. Today if

1:31:32.520 --> 1:31:35.120
<v Speaker 7>they want to. And so what we're seeing is we're

1:31:35.160 --> 1:31:39.120
<v Speaker 7>losing more officers than we are bringing in our recruit classes,

1:31:39.400 --> 1:31:42.880
<v Speaker 7>and we're having a difficult time doing recruitment. And it

1:31:42.920 --> 1:31:46.440
<v Speaker 7>doesn't help when you have a mayor and a council

1:31:46.680 --> 1:31:50.240
<v Speaker 7>and an administration that in the most subtle ways and

1:31:50.280 --> 1:31:53.519
<v Speaker 7>sometimes the most obvious ways, Mike Allen, they send the

1:31:53.560 --> 1:31:56.400
<v Speaker 7>message that they don't support our police officers. And so

1:31:56.600 --> 1:31:59.160
<v Speaker 7>families out there like mine. You know, if I had

1:31:59.160 --> 1:32:01.280
<v Speaker 7>a child, of course I won in the military that

1:32:01.360 --> 1:32:02.960
<v Speaker 7>said hey, I want to serve, I want to be

1:32:03.000 --> 1:32:05.720
<v Speaker 7>a SINSI police officer, I certainly would support it. But

1:32:05.800 --> 1:32:08.400
<v Speaker 7>I would absolutely say, listen, you've got to know what

1:32:08.520 --> 1:32:11.000
<v Speaker 7>you're getting into. Oh yeah, because you know what you're

1:32:11.040 --> 1:32:15.840
<v Speaker 7>making that split second decision right the entire your entire

1:32:15.960 --> 1:32:18.920
<v Speaker 7>family could be on the line here the way people

1:32:18.960 --> 1:32:22.080
<v Speaker 7>go at you when you're making those decisions. So I

1:32:22.120 --> 1:32:24.559
<v Speaker 7>think this is going to be a very dangerous summer

1:32:25.400 --> 1:32:27.360
<v Speaker 7>based on what we're seeing happening coming out of the

1:32:27.400 --> 1:32:30.040
<v Speaker 7>winter already, the violence, and I think it's the wrong

1:32:30.160 --> 1:32:32.960
<v Speaker 7>message and the wrong time for this councilor mayor to

1:32:33.040 --> 1:32:36.040
<v Speaker 7>talk about cutting five percent of police or fire.

1:32:36.320 --> 1:32:38.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, if that happens, and I can

1:32:39.479 --> 1:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>attest to this from personal knowledge about one hundred years ago,

1:32:43.240 --> 1:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>if it's across the board five percent cut, cops are

1:32:46.760 --> 1:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>going to get and firefighters too are going to get

1:32:48.960 --> 1:32:53.439
<v Speaker 2>laid off, and just the opposite is needed in this city.

1:32:55.560 --> 1:32:58.800
<v Speaker 7>No, it absolutely is. And what you'll see in the

1:32:58.840 --> 1:33:04.680
<v Speaker 7>summer is, you know, it's almost like schizophrenia because then

1:33:04.720 --> 1:33:08.120
<v Speaker 7>you'll see them increasing overtime and demanding that we've got

1:33:08.160 --> 1:33:09.879
<v Speaker 7>to put a million dollars in overtime.

1:33:09.920 --> 1:33:10.920
<v Speaker 9>But you're you've.

1:33:10.800 --> 1:33:13.559
<v Speaker 7>Already released so many police officers, so there's no one

1:33:13.560 --> 1:33:17.719
<v Speaker 7>there to actually get the overtime. This is a big decision.

1:33:18.080 --> 1:33:20.519
<v Speaker 7>And let me let me clarify to the public.

1:33:20.760 --> 1:33:21.559
<v Speaker 12>You know, when you hear.

1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:24.320
<v Speaker 7>Someone say, well, don't do the five percent cut, and

1:33:24.640 --> 1:33:26.559
<v Speaker 7>Mayor John Crolly and I would go through this all

1:33:26.600 --> 1:33:28.200
<v Speaker 7>the time. Where do I think we should do some

1:33:28.360 --> 1:33:31.320
<v Speaker 7>reducing Where were some of those reductions happened in order

1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:34.519
<v Speaker 7>to save money. Well, one is operating the streetcar. This

1:33:34.720 --> 1:33:38.760
<v Speaker 7>was a topic of discussion over a decade ago, and

1:33:38.840 --> 1:33:41.439
<v Speaker 7>the discussion was around two points. One was how do

1:33:41.479 --> 1:33:44.400
<v Speaker 7>we build it so we issued ninety four plus million

1:33:44.439 --> 1:33:47.920
<v Speaker 7>dollars of debt, which we charged them our credit cards

1:33:47.920 --> 1:33:51.080
<v Speaker 7>to the max in order to do that. And then

1:33:51.320 --> 1:33:55.479
<v Speaker 7>the operation Mike Allen of the streetcar, which is now

1:33:55.600 --> 1:33:58.880
<v Speaker 7>north of five million dollars per year. And so that

1:33:59.000 --> 1:34:04.400
<v Speaker 7>is a that is arecked competition to the operating budget

1:34:05.280 --> 1:34:08.519
<v Speaker 7>operating the streetcar. And so if this council and mayor

1:34:08.560 --> 1:34:11.280
<v Speaker 7>are really serious about making changes, they would say, listen,

1:34:11.360 --> 1:34:14.439
<v Speaker 7>our pet project down here. We're spending five million dollars

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<v Speaker 7>a year. Is operating the streetcar more important than police

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<v Speaker 7>and fire? I would say, if you went out and

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<v Speaker 7>talked to our fifty two neighborhoods, they would say, let's

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<v Speaker 7>make sure that our safety is first. Let's cut the

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<v Speaker 7>operation of the streetcar, if we even have to bring

1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:32.719
<v Speaker 7>it down to zero operation, but let's reduce the hours

1:34:32.800 --> 1:34:35.960
<v Speaker 7>so we at least show the public that before we

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<v Speaker 7>raise their taxes, we're willing to make some serious decisions.

1:34:39.600 --> 1:34:43.280
<v Speaker 7>We also know that contract to Irish ROLLI another six

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<v Speaker 7>hundred and fifty thousand dollars going out of the door, right,

1:34:46.880 --> 1:34:51.200
<v Speaker 7>but with very little oversight or understanding of what our ROI.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm saying you can get your arms almost around

1:34:54.520 --> 1:34:57.920
<v Speaker 7>six million dollars just in those two decisions. So it's

1:34:57.920 --> 1:35:00.680
<v Speaker 7>difficult to say we need to cut five percent. We

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<v Speaker 7>need what the City Hall and City Council, what they

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<v Speaker 7>really need to do is make some tough decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike allup, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just sitting here thinking with respect to the streetcar,

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<v Speaker 2>I just wonder if there's a way that the city

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<v Speaker 2>could privatize that. I mean, not only to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not have to spend all that money on it, but

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<v Speaker 2>also maybe recoup some money. Has that ever been talked

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<v Speaker 2>about or in your opinion, is that something that's feasible.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm smiling and I'm saying I don't think it's feasible,

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<v Speaker 7>but let me can I'm trying to make you laugh

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<v Speaker 7>when I say, let's the two of us pull our

1:35:33.320 --> 1:35:35.559
<v Speaker 7>money together. Do you think that we would pick a

1:35:35.600 --> 1:35:39.519
<v Speaker 7>street car? Because no, I don't know, man. I think

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<v Speaker 7>it's a losing proposition. I don't think there's too many

1:35:42.960 --> 1:35:44.679
<v Speaker 7>people out there that would say, hey, man, I'm stepping

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<v Speaker 7>up to buy the street car, privatize it, and we

1:35:47.520 --> 1:35:49.640
<v Speaker 7>think we're actually going to get our money back. I

1:35:49.680 --> 1:35:51.240
<v Speaker 7>think it's I think it's a money pick.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good point, and you are one of the

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<v Speaker 2>premier financial advisors in this city. I'll take I'll take

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<v Speaker 2>it at that, Christopher.

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<v Speaker 7>All I'll say, Mike is that that that city council

1:36:06.000 --> 1:36:08.479
<v Speaker 7>has to look at our budget. I understand as a

1:36:08.560 --> 1:36:11.800
<v Speaker 7>thirty one or thirty two million dollar deficit. So we

1:36:11.920 --> 1:36:14.840
<v Speaker 7>understand that, but what we don't want to do is

1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:18.840
<v Speaker 7>impact the basic services that the public we really depend on,

1:36:19.160 --> 1:36:23.680
<v Speaker 7>and that sanitation, that's our fire department, that's our police department,

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<v Speaker 7>and all of us know that these contracts are up

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<v Speaker 7>for renegotiations. So what happens also, Mike calend is the

1:36:31.680 --> 1:36:35.120
<v Speaker 7>city starts posturing that they're poor for two reasons. One,

1:36:35.280 --> 1:36:38.920
<v Speaker 7>they have a desire to raise taxes. So part of

1:36:38.960 --> 1:36:41.960
<v Speaker 7>this is to scare us into a position if we

1:36:42.040 --> 1:36:44.200
<v Speaker 7>put something on the ballot it says that we need

1:36:44.240 --> 1:36:47.360
<v Speaker 7>to raise taxes, we need you, the public a support,

1:36:47.439 --> 1:36:49.320
<v Speaker 7>or we're going to cut your police and fire. So

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<v Speaker 7>some of this is grand standing from the mayor of council.

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<v Speaker 7>The second and the second thing is that they know

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<v Speaker 7>that the police, the union and fire and our ass

1:37:00.000 --> 1:37:03.360
<v Speaker 7>from union and our code unions they're all moving into

1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:06.240
<v Speaker 7>the position of starting to negotiate their contract. So what

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<v Speaker 7>also happens is the city starts posturing I'm poor, I'm broke,

1:37:09.880 --> 1:37:11.880
<v Speaker 7>I don't have any money, and you're going to see

1:37:11.920 --> 1:37:15.400
<v Speaker 7>those those people who are arbitrating. This discussion sable. But

1:37:15.439 --> 1:37:18.240
<v Speaker 7>you're spending say one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for

1:37:18.320 --> 1:37:21.920
<v Speaker 7>this outside contractor we don't know you're operating the streetcar

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<v Speaker 7>at five million dollars. You say you want reparation here

1:37:25.760 --> 1:37:28.360
<v Speaker 7>for housing, and you're moving five million dollars over that.

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<v Speaker 7>How are you saying that you're broke but you continue

1:37:31.400 --> 1:37:33.800
<v Speaker 7>to spend all of this money out here. You've got

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<v Speaker 7>a mural outside of your city hall that says, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>black lives matter. Maybe you're going to spend a million

1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:42.200
<v Speaker 7>dollars to bring that back to Like, my point is

1:37:42.240 --> 1:37:45.320
<v Speaker 7>that when we get into those negotiations, the city always

1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:49.080
<v Speaker 7>positions themselves as if they're broke, and you and I

1:37:49.200 --> 1:37:52.880
<v Speaker 7>know that they're not. There are pet projects that they

1:37:52.880 --> 1:37:55.280
<v Speaker 7>have to say we can't do in order for us

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<v Speaker 7>to focus on the things that the fifty two neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 7>in Cincinnati say they believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now I get that. Let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is I'm just out of curiosity. The railroad money,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that has to be used for capital, and

1:38:08.920 --> 1:38:12.680
<v Speaker 2>obviously police and fire aren't capital. But is there a

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<v Speaker 2>way that the city could perhaps move some money around? Uh,

1:38:17.000 --> 1:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, you see what I'm saying, to get some

1:38:19.880 --> 1:38:23.559
<v Speaker 2>capital funds, but also you know you would be able

1:38:23.560 --> 1:38:26.280
<v Speaker 2>to free some up for police and fire. Does that

1:38:26.320 --> 1:38:27.040
<v Speaker 2>make any sense?

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<v Speaker 7>No, they can't. They can't do it. Those capital dollars

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<v Speaker 7>from the railroad I think there were thirty four million

1:38:33.400 --> 1:38:36.960
<v Speaker 7>we were getting a year. I was absolutely against sale

1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:40.000
<v Speaker 7>of our railroad for one point six billion dollars. But

1:38:40.080 --> 1:38:42.599
<v Speaker 7>it's it's it's water under the bridge. Now they've done it.

1:38:42.760 --> 1:38:46.839
<v Speaker 7>But those dollars are for for for capital on projects.

1:38:46.920 --> 1:38:49.800
<v Speaker 7>They can't pull that money in for operating. So that's

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<v Speaker 7>just a hard no. Those those are two zebra pots,

1:38:52.800 --> 1:38:56.200
<v Speaker 7>and those are restricted dollars for our for our capital.

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<v Speaker 7>The problem that you and I are seeing is our

1:38:59.280 --> 1:39:04.400
<v Speaker 7>roads are horrible. Driving down the streets, Mike Allen and

1:39:04.439 --> 1:39:07.000
<v Speaker 7>I feel like officer is going to pull me over

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<v Speaker 7>for a DUI because I'm dodging potholes. I don't want

1:39:10.760 --> 1:39:12.559
<v Speaker 7>to blow my tires out. And I know if I

1:39:12.600 --> 1:39:14.800
<v Speaker 7>blow my tire out that the city is not going

1:39:14.880 --> 1:39:18.160
<v Speaker 7>to repair my tire. So I'm saying our roads in

1:39:18.240 --> 1:39:20.240
<v Speaker 7>the city of Cincinnati. There are two things that if

1:39:20.560 --> 1:39:22.840
<v Speaker 7>any member of council listening to me and they care

1:39:23.160 --> 1:39:25.599
<v Speaker 7>what I think about are are this? Are are our

1:39:25.640 --> 1:39:29.160
<v Speaker 7>current mayor. One is our potholes in our streets need

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of attention, yep, and that would be very helpful.

1:39:32.439 --> 1:39:36.000
<v Speaker 7>And number two, our city is dirty. We need to

1:39:36.080 --> 1:39:39.040
<v Speaker 7>clean up Cincinnati. I travel other places and I go

1:39:39.200 --> 1:39:44.120
<v Speaker 7>why is our city? I'm talking about our highways, our

1:39:44.400 --> 1:39:47.559
<v Speaker 7>our individual cut throughs, our roads in the city, say

1:39:47.560 --> 1:39:50.760
<v Speaker 7>to say, why are we living in such a dirty

1:39:50.760 --> 1:39:54.440
<v Speaker 7>city and a city where our infrastructure.

1:39:53.640 --> 1:39:55.040
<v Speaker 9>Seems to be falling apart.

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<v Speaker 7>So my point is that those railroad dollars, there's a

1:39:58.360 --> 1:40:00.000
<v Speaker 7>big use for them. We need to get them out

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<v Speaker 7>the door, to be of those dollars out of the door,

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<v Speaker 7>and we need to get our roads repaired. I am

1:40:05.439 --> 1:40:07.520
<v Speaker 7>tired of dodging potholes.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Allah, Yeah, you're right. And the one that they

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<v Speaker 2>did finally do after so much complaining was Sunset Avenue.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's about the That's about the only one I

1:40:16.800 --> 1:40:20.519
<v Speaker 2>could see. Anyway, Christopher, really appreciate catching up with you,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll definitely do it again soon.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Mike, people can follow me on the X. I

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<v Speaker 7>say this because I want people to connect with me

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<v Speaker 7>and I want to connect with them at vote Smitherman.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Mike, Alla follow me on.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you, my friend. All right, thank you brother,

1:40:37.800 --> 1:40:40.760
<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you. Take care too. Always good to

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<v Speaker 2>catch up with Christopher. I'll tell you what. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wish that man was mayor, or at least on city council.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, my grandmother, my old Irish grandmother, had a

1:40:52.680 --> 1:40:57.160
<v Speaker 2>saying that went wish in one hand, I'm not going

1:40:57.240 --> 1:41:00.360
<v Speaker 2>to say in the other and see what which one

1:41:00.439 --> 1:41:03.720
<v Speaker 2>fills up first. So anyway, we are out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to thank my producer Dave Keaton uh and

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<v Speaker 2>thank Scott for letting me feel in for him. Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Allen seven hundred WLW