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Speaker 3: quick kits. But for now, we do this each and

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Speaker 3: every Thursday. It's called Read and React. Austin, what do

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Speaker 3: we have for this week? As it pertains to Jets

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Speaker 3: the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: We got four of them, Jets insights from our friends

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Speaker 4: at NFL Pro and next Jin stats.

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Speaker 2: Are you prepared? Let's go? All right?

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Speaker 4: Let's start with Jamar Chase and T Higgins. Jama, Jamar

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Speaker 4: and T have each averaged over twice as many receptions

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Speaker 4: per game and receiving yards per game with Joe Flacco

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Speaker 4: as the starter. Then with Jake Browning as the starter,

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Speaker 4: Chase has averaged one hundred and one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: seven point five receiving yards per game. He had sixty

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Speaker 4: one with Browning. Higgins has averaged seventy nine receiving yards

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Speaker 4: per game with Flacco as the starter. He had twenty

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Speaker 4: three with Browning. Man your reaction, I.

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Speaker 3: Go back immediately to what we heard from Joe Flacco

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Speaker 3: today talking about he's still learning, he's still working on

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Speaker 3: the calls, but his goal is to play fast and

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Speaker 3: simplify things at the very simplest form, Austin, what gives you,

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Speaker 3: as a quarterback on the Bengals the most chance to succeed.

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Speaker 3: Get the ball out of your hands, Get the ball

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Speaker 3: out of your hands and throw it to those two guys.

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Speaker 3: And as lucrative as it's been for Jamar Chase, and

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Speaker 3: you could argue it's helped Jamar more than anyone, how

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Speaker 3: big has this been for T Higgins? You said twenty

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Speaker 3: three yards per game with Jake Browning, twenty three yards

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Speaker 3: per game with Jake Browning to the guy you just

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Speaker 3: gave that contract to. Like that to me, this is

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Speaker 3: I think a good spot for T Higgins. Jamar AFC

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Speaker 3: Offensive Player of the Week sixteen catches, twenty three targets.

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Speaker 3: Saus Gardner likely not going to play in this game.

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Speaker 3: You're down your starting corner. You're not going to go

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Speaker 3: man against Jamar Chase. You're gonna send help to him.

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Speaker 3: I think Austin this is a big week for T Higgins.

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Speaker 3: Joe Flaccoll understands double teams. He obviously understands brackets and

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Speaker 3: what defense are trying to take away. I think this

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Speaker 3: is one of those vintage T Higgins game where a

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Speaker 3: lot of the attention goes to Chase and Higgins thrives.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned man coverage. That's the subject of our next insight.

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Speaker 4: The Jets have played man coverage at the seventh highest

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Speaker 4: rate in the NFL oh thirty five point eight percent

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Speaker 4: of the time, and they have allowed six point nine

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Speaker 4: yards per play when they are in man coverage. That's

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Speaker 4: the seventh highest amount of yards per play. Entering Week seven,

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Speaker 4: Jamar Chase was targeted on just twenty one percent of

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Speaker 4: with at least fifty routes. Run against man coverage this season. However,

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Speaker 4: in Week seven, Chase was targeted on half of his

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Speaker 3: I think so much of the the struggles of Chase.

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Speaker 3: I hate to do it because it's the easy target,

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Speaker 3: but I put more on Jake Browning ball placement, timing,

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Speaker 3: Chase did last week. And we've mentioned a lot. Why

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Speaker 3: did Pittsburgh stay in man to man? Maybe because Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: was going off those insights as well. Maybe that's what

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Speaker 3: the game. Look, it doesn't matter manner zone. Jamar is

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Speaker 3: that success that he has. What I think is interesting, Austin,

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Speaker 3: you said the Jets play man at the seventh highest rate.

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Speaker 4: Correct And as you mentioned a moment ago, I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, by all reasons, then that number has to go

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Speaker 4: And after what we saw last week, especially towards the

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Speaker 4: Flacco's just gonna tuck it and run.

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Speaker 3: It's just gonna take off. You turn your back to him,

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the defensive side of the ball. In

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Speaker 3: Week seven, without Trey Hendrickson, the Bengals averaged a time

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Speaker 3: point seven to four. Entering Week seven, Hendrickson accounted for

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Speaker 3: twenty four point seven percent of the Bengals pressures, generating

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Speaker 3: that encapsulates every single thing we've talked about this week

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Speaker 3: So three point two zero not good enough. What was

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Speaker 3: more demoralizing about the three point two zero Austin is

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Speaker 3: it came against Aaron Rodgers, forty one years old, not

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Speaker 3: and it's an indictment on everyone on this defensive line

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Speaker 3: not named Trey Hendrickson. And we did talk Joseph Osias

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Speaker 3: twelfth in the NFL in pressures. He's not getting home

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Speaker 3: nearly enough. They're just not putting multiple pressures together. On

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Speaker 3: you might not. They rushed three a lot last week. Also, Austin,

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Speaker 3: does you you watch a lot of football? I watch

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Speaker 4: I don't know if i'd say I see it as much.

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Speaker 3: I do see it, You'll see it, but not I

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Speaker 4: I know Joe Berry, who was one of my biggest

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Speaker 2: But no, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't see it as much maybe as I do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's I think Al Golden is trying to figure

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Speaker 4: Right now, And going back to the conversation with John Sheer,

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Speaker 4: and I asked if he thinks the Bengals should blitz

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Speaker 4: more just because of how much they have struggled to

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Speaker 4: get home. And I think it's difficult when you don't

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Speaker 4: have a ton of faith in Geno Stone to be

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Speaker 4: You really have confidence in Dax Hill and DJ Turner.

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Speaker 4: That's like the only people you feel confident and especially

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Speaker 4: that makes it more difficult to blitz. One of your

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Speaker 4: looking at the personnel that the Bengals have. This is

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Speaker 4: But it's a fact of the matter. They don't have

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Speaker 4: best for the defense. Yeah, final one, and to your

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Speaker 4: the Jets starting offensive line of Fashanu, Simpson, Myers and

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Speaker 4: seven point four percent of plays together. Wow, this season

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Speaker 4: some continuity on that line. However, they have allowed of

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Speaker 3: Well, if not this week, then win because you know

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Speaker 3: we've said a lot of the year Austin Shamar Stewart

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Speaker 3: just bad matchups, bad matchups. This isn't a bad matchup.

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Speaker 3: And I think the reason they highlight the continuity, there's

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Speaker 3: stink like you gotta win. You got to win matchups

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Speaker 3: this weekend, Let's read and react Bengals Jets. Let's react

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Speaker 3: to what a phone call has to say. John is

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Speaker 6: John? Good afternoon?

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 7: We're hanging in there. That clip that you retweeted yesterday

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Speaker 7: with Flacco was awesome. He is such a likable feels

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Speaker 7: And I think he's a breath the fresh air. And

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Speaker 7: I really hope that he stays on as a backup

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Speaker 7: it'd be great for Joe Burrow to have a veteran

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Speaker 2: Or half and do such a great job.

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Speaker 7: But also maybe to be kind of like a big

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Speaker 7: in terms of, you know, look, it's better that you

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Speaker 7: get under center somewhat. This offense is very quarterback friendly

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Speaker 3: This year, for the UC Bearcats, they have already lost

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Speaker 10: The depth of the league.

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Speaker 11: It's not just great at the top, which it is,

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Speaker 11: not just saying be a connected group. We're trying to

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Speaker 11: be intentional about it from day one. And then there's

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Speaker 11: an aggressive We're at Cincinnati, there's an aggressive approach to

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Speaker 11: our community when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 10: We're going to be an aggressive team.

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Speaker 11: So whether that's being aggressive offensively, being aggressive on the

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Speaker 11: offensive glass, making sure we do some things to make

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Speaker 11: our defense more aggressive, and I think we have the

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Speaker 11: versatility defensively to do that as well.

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Speaker 13: You talk about pace at times last year your offense

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Speaker 13: got stuck. How is this year's roster difference just besides pace?

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Speaker 13: What are the pieces look like that make you believe

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Speaker 13: that when the game does get slowed down or gets

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Speaker 13: tightened up in conference play, your guys are going to

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Speaker 13: execute in those moments.

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Speaker 11: We had our first exhibition and it's just an exhibition,

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Speaker 11: and you guys know the stuff that don't count in October,

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Speaker 11: but we scored one hundred. I don't know if we

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Speaker 11: could have scored a hundred against anybody last year.

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Speaker 10: So I think we have much more skill across the board.

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Speaker 11: I think we have more decision making just with some

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Speaker 11: of the pieces that were added. So I think we

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Speaker 11: can generate offense in different ways. We can play through

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Speaker 11: the post with Mustapha Cha. I mean, he can score

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Speaker 11: down there and that's been exciting because he's evolving as

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Speaker 11: this young player. But you can throw it to him

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Speaker 11: and he can do things over both shoulders. Jalen Haynes

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Speaker 11: was a guy we were going to do that with

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Speaker 11: a lot. But we can score in the front court

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Speaker 11: Baba Miller, through the post, we can generate through pick

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Speaker 11: and roll, or through space. We can generate with cutting,

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Speaker 11: and then we have a lot more shooting as well.

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Speaker 11: And you know, listen, I want to get easy ones

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Speaker 11: early in the clock and we're going to really try

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Speaker 11: to push the pace. I think that's where we can

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Speaker 11: be different in all those areas.

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Speaker 14: And then you've got a good returner in Dada Thomas

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Speaker 14: returning with some big twelve experience fifty games that he's

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Speaker 14: played there with. Cincinnati gets the extra year with the

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Speaker 14: JUCO grandfathered in a clause, what does he bring back

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Speaker 14: and how important is it to have him?

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Speaker 11: And Fran knows this, But every question about Dada Thomas

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Speaker 11: makes me smile and makes.

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Speaker 10: Me appreciate the question what he means.

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Speaker 11: Like somebody said, you don't have many returners, we have three,

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Speaker 11: but Dada's worth three himself. I mean, he's been in

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Speaker 11: our program now for two years, he's played two years

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Speaker 11: in the Big twelve. He represents everything that we value

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Speaker 11: in Cincinnati basketball, and he's learned now how to lead

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Speaker 11: and project those things onto his teammates. So he is

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Speaker 11: so important to us. I will say this as a player.

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Speaker 11: He's playing his best basketball of his college careers healthy again,

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Speaker 11: so I'm really excited. And then Fran knows this. In

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Speaker 11: our league, you're just gonna have possessions that get stalled,

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Speaker 11: and we don't want to have as many as we

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Speaker 11: had a year ago, but it's sometimes the chips are

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Speaker 11: down and you have to have guys that can go

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Speaker 11: make a play without an advantage. Data can do that

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Speaker 11: and he's doing it better now than he ever has.

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Speaker 11: And then we have a young player and shann Abaya

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Speaker 11: that can do.

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Speaker 10: That as well.

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Speaker 11: So we have a couple guys for the first time

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Speaker 11: that the chips will be down and it's going to

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Speaker 11: be fun to watch them go create offense when offense

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Speaker 11: isn't there.

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Speaker 12: Sean had fifteen I think in the first half against Michigan.

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Speaker 12: What did you see from him, both good and bad

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Speaker 12: that you're excited about, and then you're looking for improvement

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Speaker 12: as he becomes more experienced.

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Speaker 11: I saw a confidence he has a and I want

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Speaker 11: to say this first, the most impressive thing about SHAWNA.

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Speaker 11: Bay of today is the way he's walked through the door, humble,

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Speaker 11: head down. He's challenged our locker room to be the

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Speaker 11: hardest worker on the team as an incoming freshman, and

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Speaker 11: he's earned the respect of his teammates Keishan Tillery or

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Speaker 11: other freshmen to fit into that same category as well.

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Speaker 11: I've been so impressed with the way they've walked in

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Speaker 11: the door as highly touted recruits. They've earned the other

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Speaker 11: players respect. But in the game, you see the shot making,

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Speaker 11: you see his confidence in the moment's not too big,

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Speaker 11: even this early, but the little things have to get better. Friends,

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Speaker 11: the stuff he can control, how hard he runs the floor,

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Speaker 11: the way that he defends, which, by the way, is

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Speaker 11: improving all these things at a rapid rate. But I

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Speaker 11: think he'll have some really good moments here early, wait

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Speaker 11: till January and February. If he keeps his approach the

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Speaker 11: same way, I think he could be very good.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: So that's some stuff from Wes Miller at Big twelve

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Speaker 3: Media Day. Two things that stand out to me, Austin. One,

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Speaker 3: how many times last year did we talk about the

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Speaker 3: pace at which they played and just not finding easy shots.

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Speaker 3: I think moving and pushing the pace should help them

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Speaker 3: a lot. Second, and I think the biggest question I

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Speaker 3: want to know, Austin, if the shot clock's winding down,

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Speaker 3: do they have a dude that you can throw the

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Speaker 3: ball to then go get his own bucket?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like I remember Jared Cumberland. I knew that if things

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Speaker 3: were breaking down, you could get Cumberland the ball with

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Speaker 3: eight to ten on the clock and he could go find.

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Speaker 2: A way to get a bucket. You could create a shot.

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Speaker 3: Do they have that on this roster? Because if not,

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Speaker 3: regardless of how good of a team you are, regardless

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Speaker 3: of how much you do push the pace, you have

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Speaker 3: got to be able to have someone that can go

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Speaker 3: get his own basket yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, thinking back to last year's team, some of

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Speaker 4: those possessions were like pulling teeth. Oh, just you can

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Speaker 4: tell what's coming. Yeah, And I thought they played way

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Speaker 4: too slow. So it's good to hear Wes say we

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Speaker 4: want to play fast and we want good shots early

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Speaker 4: in the shot clock, not being afraid to doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: If there's twenty five seconds left, I got an open shot,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna hit it like that

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Speaker 4: sort of pace that sort of get it moving quickly,

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Speaker 4: get those open shots, good shots early in the in

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Speaker 4: the shot clock.

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Speaker 2: I think that's going to bode well for you.

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Speaker 3: Chad Brenda will join us for quick hits in a

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Speaker 3: bit before that, will grab a phone call or two.

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Speaker 3: Next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 15: With Dve Lapham's enshriment into the Bengals Ring of Honor,

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Speaker 15: we pay tribute to the Life of Lap presented by

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Speaker 15: Skyline Feeling good Gets Skyline Time Now Here's Dan.

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Speaker 16: Indeed, Lap, you are known for your boisterous enthusiasm in

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Speaker 16: the booth, but there's no better. X's and O's analyst

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Speaker 16: in the NFL describe your approach as a broadcaster.

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Speaker 2: It's probably a lot like yours, Dan.

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Speaker 17: I mean, we both went to the new House School

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Speaker 17: of Communications at Syracuse University. The best there is preparing

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Speaker 17: for people to enter the broadcast world knowing everything there

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Speaker 17: is to know about what you're doing, what you're broadcasting.

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Speaker 17: I don't care if it's tittley winks or you know,

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Speaker 17: the Super Bowl, having an understanding of who the competitors are,

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Speaker 17: what makes them great, and honestly, I mean it's just

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Speaker 17: energing enthusiasm for the game. Just comes from love with

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Speaker 17: the game and do it in a way that you

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Speaker 17: know the audience appreciates that.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, he really likes the game.

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Speaker 15: For more on the life of Lap keep it here

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Speaker 15: on ESPN fifteen thirty, The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 9: Cincy three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, we are rolling. It's already Thursday, already nearing

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Speaker 3: the end of our three The hell of a week,

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Speaker 3: hell of a week, hell of a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Chad Brendle's standing by next. Got to talk to Chad

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Speaker 3: Brenda last night on his UH on his podcas Cats

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Speaker 3: with Barcat Jordan dot Com Awston. They had their five

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Speaker 3: hundredth episode the BCJ five hundred episodes the Congrats in

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Speaker 3: order to celebrate he's in here today. Every once in

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Speaker 3: a while, I don't know if I've ever told Chad this,

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Speaker 3: but every once in a while, I'll be on YouTube

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Speaker 3: looking for something and I'll see the BCJ is live,

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Speaker 3: and so I'll just flip over check out. I'll watch

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Speaker 3: for a few minutes. Yeah, you know, just peruse the comments,

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Speaker 3: see what people are saying, and.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I listen. I get once in a while,

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Speaker 2: I know what's going to get the Cats. We listen.

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Speaker 2: We listen to callers as well. What's happened in.

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Speaker 6: Mike Hey, guys, thank you appreciate it. Talking about the Bearcats,

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Speaker 6: I think this prediction that Patino's going to finish eighth

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Speaker 6: in the Big East is grossly wrong. I think he'll

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Speaker 6: surprise a lot of people. I'm not saying they'll win

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Speaker 6: the league the Big East, but he's going to surprise

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Speaker 6: some people. You know why, because he is one hell

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Speaker 6: of a coach and he had the best teacher you

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Speaker 6: could ever have. So watch out their catch because his team.

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Speaker 6: You might beat him this year, But I don't know

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Speaker 6: about next year, so I'm just calling it like I

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Speaker 6: see it. I think the Xavier gets the short end

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Speaker 6: of the stick sometimes here, but I don't know why.

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Speaker 6: That's what That's what I root for both teams.

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Speaker 3: But that's what shocked me yesterday is I opened it

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Speaker 3: up because I'm genuinely curious, and to hear a couple

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Speaker 3: of Xavier fans call in and say, you know, somewhere

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Speaker 3: around the five hundred mark, that surprised me.

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and maybe it's true stance it's his first year,

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Speaker 6: but uh, once he gets settled in, this guy is

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Speaker 6: as good as it gets with the x's and o's,

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Speaker 6: and he's also a very good recruiter. Very good. I mean,

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Speaker 6: if you can recruit recruit kids to New Mexico, for

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Speaker 6: crying out loud, if you can, you know, get him

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Speaker 6: to the Big East or wherever. The other comment I

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Speaker 6: wanted to make that kind of shocked me. That with

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Speaker 6: Scott who I'm not a fan of anyone with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 6: but this guy is having a hell of a year.

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Speaker 18: And when they run play action, he's sixty one for

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Speaker 18: seventy pass completions with seven touchdowns and zero interception is

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Speaker 18: that impressive.

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Speaker 6: And not ever hear anybody talk about it, and.

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Speaker 3: Not exactly dominant in the running game as well, that

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Speaker 3: you would think that teams are just having to bite

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Speaker 3: up on the run fake.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so uh And Pickens has made a different form

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Speaker 6: and ceedee lamback of course is a big deal.

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Speaker 3: They're a good offense. They're an elite offense. Their defense

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Speaker 3: not so much. But that's a good offense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Their defense probably around like the Bengals defense, I

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Speaker 6: guess maybe probably somewhat comparable. I have to look at

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Speaker 6: up and tomorrow's O the World Series. Hallelujah. I can't wait.

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Speaker 6: I'm so excited. I just wish Vin Scully was still

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Speaker 6: around to be able to do play by play because

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Speaker 6: he's the greatest I ever heard. Marty was good, but

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Speaker 6: even Marty will tell you Ben Scully's the best ever.

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Speaker 6: So go Big Blue and all you people have hate

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers. You know why you hate him because you're envious.

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Speaker 6: That's why you hate him. You're envy. You the Greek

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Speaker 6: with envy. You don't even like yourself. That's why you

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Speaker 6: don't like the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: They used to say, don't hate us because you ate us.

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Speaker 6: That's a good one. I like it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Thanks Mike, I have a good one.

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Speaker 9: Umm.

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Speaker 3: Chad Brendle hanging by. We'll join us next quick kits

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Speaker 3: to finish off today's edition to Sincy three sixty. You're

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Speaker 3: listening on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 9: Thanks to Penn Station, Sincy three sixty continues on ESPN

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Speaker 9: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. It's time for Cincy three

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Speaker 9: sixty Quick Hits on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: I was looking for Mo. Mo's not here. Do we

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Speaker 2: know where MO is today?

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Speaker 3: Probably golfing? Oh the company golf outing, I think so.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's where Mo. What are we

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Speaker 3: doing here working?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No, they didn't know you were a golfer. They

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Speaker 2: probably didn't know I was going to be with the company.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you did. You were out in the invite days. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that got changed around a little bit. Chad Breundle is

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Speaker 3: in for Mowegar today celebrating. But last night was number

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Speaker 3: five hundred, five hundred shows. Wow, it's a lot of

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Speaker 3: It's like ten years worth of me and Dave Simone Dalkin,

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Speaker 3: Bearcats Crazy and now to celebrate you're here today.

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Speaker 2: You want to hear a funny story. Yes.

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Speaker 19: So when they originally asked me to do this show,

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Speaker 19: it was right before everything happened. So they had asked

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Speaker 19: me because Austin was going to be going to Green Bay.

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Speaker 19: They were like, can you do Thursday?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 19: And then also can you do October twenty third? When

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Speaker 19: everything happened, I forgot about October twenty third. Yeah, completely

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Speaker 19: was out of my mind. My dad calls me last

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Speaker 19: night and he's like, hey, do you need me to

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Speaker 19: pick Kelsey up from school tomorrow? And I was like no, why.

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Speaker 19: He's like, you're on radio. I was like no, He's like, well,

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Speaker 19: both things you do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: I was like what do you mean. He's like, he's

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Speaker 19: said on the radio, Chad Brendle is in tomorrow. And

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Speaker 19: I was like, I guess you got a radio show

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Speaker 19: to plan. Oh yeah, if you could pick her up

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Speaker 19: that in planning said show, what do you got on

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Speaker 19: the show today? We're going to talk about the transition.

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Speaker 19: There's a transition, right, we are going from Joe Cool

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Speaker 19: to Uncle Joe yea and the dynamic of like, look,

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Speaker 19: you know your cool cousin, like that everybody wants to

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Speaker 19: be like your cool cousin. But there's also that cool

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Speaker 19: uncle that, like you know, you're looking forward to as

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Speaker 19: you get older. Like with with the cool uncle, it's

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Speaker 19: a different dynamic, but both everybody loves the cool uncle

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Speaker 19: and you look forward to learning from that guy and

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Speaker 19: being around that guy. And I think we're starting to

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Speaker 19: see that in the Bengals locker room, people being impacted

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Speaker 19: by having a different voice. Not that it's better or worse.

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Speaker 19: Sometimes different is okay.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's interesting too because like when you win,

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Speaker 3: it helps make this even sure if you lose, it's like,

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Speaker 3: all right, man, whatever, Yeah we didn't win anyway, it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just adds to it.

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Speaker 19: And it's a big one this week because the vibes

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Speaker 19: will remain high. Yeah, with they win, you lose to

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Speaker 19: the Jets, especially if Sauce isn't playing. Yeah, you all

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Speaker 19: just to the Jets. Uh ohh. So it's it's an

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Speaker 19: interesting week. Yeah, and again it opens up things to

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Speaker 19: maybe do it the deadline, if you can win another

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Speaker 19: one and get yourself back to five hundred. I'm not

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Speaker 19: I'm done trying to talk myself into the Bengals are

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Speaker 19: going to make it trade at the deadline. Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 19: If you're not going to use them, trade them, Yeah

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Speaker 19: the Bearcats. Yes, is this real? Because last year we

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Speaker 19: were in a similar spot right now five and two.

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Speaker 19: They had just beaten Arizona State. We knew that the

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Speaker 19: back half of the schedule was the tougher portion of

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Speaker 19: the schedule. But hey, there's some optimism. Maybe Scott Saderfield

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Speaker 19: is getting some things figured out. What's different? Why is

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Speaker 19: it different? And again, the back half of the schedule

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Speaker 19: is by far the tougher portion of the schedule. Yes,

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Speaker 19: but what's different about this team that's going to allow

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Speaker 19: this team to navigate this better than they did last year?

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Speaker 19: Because look, I don't think anybody's really expecting this team

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Speaker 19: to go eleven and one, ten and two.

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Speaker 2: Would it be great if they did?

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Speaker 3: Sure, and track record in the Big twelve two years ago,

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Speaker 3: TCU came out of nowhere one last year, comes out

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Speaker 3: of nowhere wins it. There is a track record there

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Speaker 3: that's that somebody's going to do it. And your toughest

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Speaker 3: game on your schedule remaining his home. Yeah, so there's

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Speaker 3: there's a path. But what what makes this team different?

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Speaker 3: What makes this team able to sustain that? I think

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Speaker 3: it comes down to two things. Special teams and taking

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Speaker 3: care of the football. Yeah, I mean they've been great

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Speaker 3: at both.

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Speaker 19: This team has been historically good. Imagine making it seven games,

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Speaker 19: Tony with only one interception.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I can imagine playing some yardage, but no,

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Speaker 3: like they've been so good in that. But at the

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Speaker 3: same time, like they've they've just found rhythm at the

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Speaker 3: right times. And I think the biggest thing they've played

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Speaker 3: from ahead, that's been like we talked about that the

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Speaker 3: last two years, Right, that's key.

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Speaker 19: But but turnovers and special teams, why you get to

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Speaker 19: play from ahead?

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Speaker 17: Right?

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Speaker 3: And I'm interested with an elite passing attack coming in

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Speaker 3: on Saturday, can they still play from ahead?

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Speaker 19: I'm interested to see what what mother nature does to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: because did you see that the temperature in Waco yesterday?

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Speaker 3: No eighty eight degrees. I was just reading right here.

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Speaker 3: We get these on our desk every morning.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The nine first Warning weather presented by Jennifer Ketchmark. You

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Speaker 3: see game day Saturday, dry staying, chili high sixty one,

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Speaker 3: low forty one.

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Speaker 19: So four o'clock it's supposed to be a little cloudy,

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Speaker 19: so that sun's not gonna be you know, out full

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Speaker 19: perfect football weather as a fan, but a team coming

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Speaker 19: from Waco.

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Speaker 2: The low in Waco yesterday was sixty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it look like the South Florida teams in

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Speaker 3: the Big East would come up late in the year

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Speaker 3: and with the years.

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Speaker 19: It would be fifty eight degrees and they would have

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Speaker 19: the jet engines blowing heat on the sideline. So I'm

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Speaker 19: interested in that because if it's if it's competitive and close,

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Speaker 19: that's not a factor. Sure the other team gets up

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Speaker 19: a little bit and it's cold, I'm cold. Those guys

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Speaker 19: want to go home, yep. So I think that's gonna

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Speaker 19: be fun as well. We're gonna talk to to Kean Nicholson,

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Speaker 19: who was at Big twelve Basketball media days yesterday. You

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Speaker 19: guys talked to him yesterday. I'm gonna talk to him today.

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Speaker 19: Why he's now on his way to Fayetteville, Arkansas. Oh yes,

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Speaker 19: scrimmage for the UC. I don't want to do this today.

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Speaker 19: I don't want to get excited about the exhibitions. It

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Speaker 19: must be nice to be young again, because you know

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Speaker 19: what he's doing. Then after the exhibition come back. He's

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Speaker 19: getting in his car and he's driving back to cincinnat

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Speaker 19: and planning to be at homecoming at four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Good for him.

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Speaker 19: In my twenties, like this, this would have been the

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Speaker 19: dream road trip. Yeah, right days in casey, then you

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Speaker 19: see Arkansas on Friday, and then back home for homecoming

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Speaker 19: against Baylor on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Like there would have been no doubt in my mind.

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Speaker 3: Like, let's go the sports weekend, the exhibition Friday, Bearcat football, Saturday,

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Speaker 3: Bengals Sunday, hell Is Real Monday.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, that's a nice little week. It's a nice four day,

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Speaker 19: nice four day stretch. Four day we'll get to all that.

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Speaker 19: Like I said, Jeff Carr talking a little bit of Red's,

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Speaker 19: a little bit of Reds. Three hours, the three f's,

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Speaker 19: Jeff Refs, Jeff ff Car. Uh, he's gonna talk some

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Speaker 19: Reds with us, five block hour. Wow, we've got Lee

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Speaker 19: Stirling wagering like it. And then uh, Dan Klaskins.

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Speaker 3: To talk some fantasy football as well with uh with

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Speaker 3: this Bearcat game on on Saturday. Yes, what do you

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Speaker 3: view as the hurdles going forward? Because I look like

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Speaker 3: I'm almost more nerves about Saturday and I hate putting

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Speaker 3: this out there. I'm almost more nervous about Saturday than

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Speaker 3: I am against Utah because I've watched enough Utah that

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Speaker 3: their quarterback play just isn't great. Yeah, And so I

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Speaker 3: go into a game like, I think UC's offense can

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Speaker 3: score with anybody that way they're playing, it's good, But

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Speaker 3: I'm more worried about a team that can come in

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Speaker 3: and put up you know, forty or fifty on any

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Speaker 3: given day. That makes me a little bit nervous. So

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Speaker 3: from a from a stretch standpoint, because again, I think

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Speaker 3: Arizona's an improved team.

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Speaker 2: They're home.

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Speaker 3: I think b YU is a good football team Knippert Stadium,

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Speaker 3: and maybe, I mean, can we get a nip and

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Speaker 3: night at any point Maybe, I don't know. Maybe, but

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Speaker 3: I will take four though. Yeah, four is great, and

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Speaker 3: then you finish at TCU. But like, if you look

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Speaker 3: at the Big twelve right now, Arizona State's in third,

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Speaker 3: Texas tex and fourth, Houston's and fifth, you miss all those, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that you don't play them in the regular season. So

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Speaker 3: the schedule plays out perfectly.

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Speaker 19: Really, even if hypothetically you win this week, you go

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Speaker 19: to Utah and lose two losses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so well.

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Speaker 3: They have the two b y, you still got to

828
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Speaker 3: go to Texas Tech next week.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I've got Iowa State at Iowa State this week.

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Speaker 2: I just I think there's a lot of openings.

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Speaker 3: It's the window. There's a window for this team, Arizona State.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they have coming up, but and

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Speaker 3: look here's the thing.

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Speaker 19: There has always been a surprise, right Like Fickles first

835
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Speaker 19: team was a surprise double digit win team. Now that

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Speaker 19: was right when UCF was rolling, so they didn't make

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Speaker 19: the conference championship, but that was a surprise team. The

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Speaker 19: two thousand and eight team came from nowhere, like you

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Speaker 19: were there, used why the season started the way the

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Speaker 19: season started, and then kind of on the ropes a

841
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Speaker 19: lot through that season, and you guys endured and found

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Speaker 19: a way to get in. Is this that year for

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Speaker 19: Scott Sidderfield where they find a way to shock everybody

844
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Speaker 19: and have the type of season that that nobody envisioned?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I hope.

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Speaker 3: So what I also hope is people will quit just

847
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Speaker 3: gambling on sports that are playing sports or coaching sports.

848
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Well know, a lot of this like poker, illegal poker.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine like anytime like Rosier I think is Rosier.

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Speaker 2: I think is a gambling problem.

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Speaker 3: If you're Chauncey Billups and you're talking about ties to

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Speaker 3: the mafia running poker, good luck, man.

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Speaker 2: I'm out splashing the pot.

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Speaker 3: I'm out on that, and I'm also out now your next,

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Speaker 3: Chad Brendle's next. We're done, Dock got it again for

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Speaker 3: the Friday Football Frenzy tomorrow on the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Have a great rest

858
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Speaker 3: of your Thursday