1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Five o five at thirty five KRC, the talk station 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: have Tuesday. Some say will vucation the way it is. Indeed, 3 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas right here, glad to be hosting of the 4 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: fifty five KRC Morning Show and blessed to have Joseph Strucker, 5 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: executive producer Internet Research grewer. All are a great guy 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: producing the program, does a great job. And another plug 7 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: for Joe podcasts. Have him do your podcast. Uh and 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: again a shout out prayers. Please please please my prayer 9 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: for all audience, but you please direct some prayers to 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: Joe Strecker's father, who is still struggling mightily with some 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: serious health consequences. Joe, hope you don't mind me asking 12 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: for prayers for your father. I personally am engaging in 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: some myself and wish you and your family all the best. 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: So I certainly invite you to call with thy five 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Carsey Morning Show. It's hit. It's already here. We say. 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: Gas prices jump because of the strikes in Iran. Why 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: is the supply already interrupted? Not yet? Fear is driven 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: the prices up. This is an excuse I think by 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: the gas companies to simply just raise it. Look war 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: let's raise the price, and it's gone up pretty substantially. 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Gas Buddy hasn't reflected the increase, not necessarily yet. I 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: saw local reporting from a WCPO saying we've already gone 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: north of three dollars, many people complaining they paid like 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: three dollars and nineteen cents a gallon was a speedway 25 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: off I seventy one that was specifically referenced in nor 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: would a couple other state references Butler County above three 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: dollars described as a sixty cent jump in Butler County 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: in a day. Gas Buddy currently saying Ohio gas price 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: stats for the entire state between two eleven and two 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: eighty nine, last updated twenty two hours ago, the best 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: I can figure. So you look for revision today on 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: gasbuddy dot com. That's where you get your gasoline prices. 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: Question is it worth it or we're gonna find out? 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: And more on that topic because it kind of transcends 35 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: just the immediate increase in gasoline prices, and people are 36 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: starting to reflect on not just the war and its 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: impact on the price of the fuel, but even in 38 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: the bluest state like New York, they're starting to turn 39 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: their back on Yes, thank God, the green religion that 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: is carbon dioxide, plant food killing us or something. Coming 41 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: up at fifty five caresee Morning Show Tom's Awastowski Wether 42 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: People Convention dot Org question what will happen when no 43 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: more property tax grew? Or what happened rather when no 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: more property tax? Group met with Vivik Ramaswami. Where's Vvik 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: on the vote? I think Tom's gonna let us know it. 46 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Coming up at seven thirty, we're also going to talk 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: about pulling on the Ohio property tax. Where do people sit? 48 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: I see a lot of posts on social media for 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: the group that's pushing to eradicate property taxes in Ohio. 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: I expect, at some point, and I'm not sure where 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: it's going to come from, there will be a well 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: organized money back campaign to get you to decide that 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: eliminating property tax in Ohio is a really, really bad idea. Yes, 54 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: the war of marketing on that is fast approaching. Look 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: you can see it down the road there. Coming up 56 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: an eight oh five, the return of London Bureau Chief 57 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Oliver Lane to talk about the United Kingdom's response to 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: the United States and Israel's launching an attack on Iran. 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: It seemed to be all over the place but not 60 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: really committed to doing anything. London Bureau Chief Oliver Lane 61 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: on that the inside Scoop with Breitbart every Tuesday at 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: eight oh five, and of course should be rather interesting. 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: I think it always is retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis 64 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: with a Daniel Davis Deep Dive, which we do every 65 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Tuesday at eight thirty. Today no exception of that. We 66 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: will definitely be talking about Iran and a lot of 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: concerns articulated this morning in various media outlets about running 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: out of the interceptor missiles. So you've got thousands of 69 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Iranian rockets, not sure how many have been destroyed. I 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: saw one talking head yesterday, someone in the know, a 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: noted notable expert. You know, he put a label expert 72 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: after someone. I guess they are saying that, you know, 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: it sounded like a great thing, and he was praising 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: it as a great thing that we've knocked out fifty 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: percent of the Iranian missile capacity. Now I don't know 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: how that translates. There are drones, are there are are 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: long range missiles, medium range missiles. The Shah he eats 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: all this kind of different military hardware. I wasn't really 79 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: quite clear based on his comments fifty percent of what, 80 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: but we are making some men rows and that's going 81 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: to be the continued pressure from the United States well 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: in Israel and find the missiles and blow them up, 83 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: find the manufacturing facilities and blow them up. By understanding 84 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: one drone launching facility and maybe even manufacturing facility was 85 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: eliminated yesterday, perhaps the day before with the initial strikes. 86 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: One can only hope that this this air action, this 87 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: air campaign, will be more successful and rapidly so in 88 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: eliminating Iran's ability to launch and they seem to be 89 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: very indiscriminate launching missiles in to the various regional countries. 90 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Of course, our military bases and Israel generally speaking c 91 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: to be the of course focus of the Iranian response. 92 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: More on that coming up, and we'll have our ask 93 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: the Expert today. You know me, I love talking about 94 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: cancer because every time I have OHC and one of 95 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: their great doctors on the program gives me some great 96 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: optimism that someday, someday we will have a cure. Well, 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: today we're going to have ohc's doctor, A G. Golah. 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: He's a medical oncologist and hematologist and director of stem 99 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: cell transplant and cellular Therapy discussing clinical trials and why 100 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: they are a vital part of treating cancer and how 101 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: cancer research provides cancer patients with one of the most 102 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: important aspects of care. That's hope, but cancer clinical trials 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: being on the forefront, that they are the starting place 104 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: in helping you get relief and of course maybe bringing 105 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: in about better relief or others that are struggling with cancer. 106 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Cancer sucks. Let's finally have something to embrace without a 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: political stripe, something we can all agree on. Cancer sucks. 108 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: That's the Morning Show today five one, three, seven, four, 109 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: nine fifty five, eight hundred eight two to three Talk 110 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: found five fifty on AT and T phones. Okay, we 111 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: have got gas prices going up, of course, to the 112 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: consequence of the war in the Middle East. Understand that 113 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: that's going to happen. Ripple effect, the shutting down to 114 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: the strait of horn Mouse, which I have read multiple 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: places now may very well impact China and Russia to 116 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: the negative sort of a Is it a corollary benefit 117 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: or is it one of the primary benefits. I don't know, 118 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: but it's harming our two greatest enemies, China and Russia. 119 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: But insofar as let us let us go to a 120 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: little a little dose of reality for all those green 121 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: religion fans out there, New York Governor Kathy Hokeel among them. 122 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: Until oh, that's right the other day, hmm, what's going 123 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: on with New York screen policies. Well, remember the price 124 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: of gas will necessarily increase. Barack Obama toljia ahead of time. 125 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. And what has happened 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: with the implementation of the green policies and billions and 127 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: billions of taxpayer dollars rerouted to supplement the manufacturer of 128 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: windmills and solar panels, giving the Chinese the upper hand 129 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: and something that doesn't generate electricity very reliably. Yes, we 130 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: all know that Governor Hathi Kathy Hokals administration is now 131 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: warning that gas prices could soar two dollars and twenty 132 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: three cents over the next few years. She's getting ready 133 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: to launch a fight with her fellow Democrats to delay 134 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: their green energy mandates that were implemented in twenty nineteen. 135 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: The twenty nineteen Climate Change Law is now coming home 136 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: to roost and the chickens are not happy. Memo leak 137 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: by hocals Camp details what is described as a stunning 138 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: projected fuel cost at the pump and for households. If 139 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: this stupid cap and invest initiative kicks in as planned, 140 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: they say, New York households could pay another twenty three 141 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a year in natural gas costs. Notice the 142 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: emphasis on natural gas. This on top of some other 143 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: massive rate increases. New York State Energy and Research Development 144 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: Authority has issued a memo saying exactly that upstate households 145 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: even more forty three hundred dollars per year more lokl 146 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: arguing yesterday for us to meet the goals on the 147 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: timeframe that was set by the legislature, which pulled a 148 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: number out of their sphincter, there's going to be enormous 149 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: cost of families. Right, the price of gas will necessarily 150 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: increased because you think windmills and solar panels are the answer, 151 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: and not building any more natural gas pipelines was seen 152 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: to be the real problem for New York and most 153 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: people in the Northeast region of the country. The climate 154 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: law that they enacted mandates in New York electricity degenerated 155 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: seventy percent zero missions by twenty thirty, one hundred percent 156 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: zero missions by twenty forty. What a lofty, impossible to 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: achieve goal. And she admitted that is unachievable as large 158 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: renewable energy projects are failing. And of course, the elimination 159 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: of subsidies for green initiatives by the Trump administration. In 160 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: other words, that would be your tax the taxpayer dollars 161 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: going to mask the actual cost of the creation of 162 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: these various green facilities local planet and negotiate changes to 163 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: the climate mandates. Pushing back on those deadlines. Hmmm, and 164 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: I love this. I'll give credit to the New York 165 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: Post reporting how the battle plays out. Could have reverberations 166 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: in November when Hochel's up for re election. Ah, with 167 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: New York skitty cities, sky high cost of living, expect 168 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: to be in the front and center during the campaign. Affordability. 169 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: Who's screaming and running around talking about affordability, affordability, affordability, 170 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: right the Democrats. This is their campaign platform. And you know, honestly, 171 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: if I was a Democrat to make the same argument, 172 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: well as transparent as it is. Giving Joe Biden's infusion 173 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: of literally trillions of dollars into this green new energy 174 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: crap that is driving our energy prices up. Guess what 175 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: people are waking up even without the additional squeeze con 176 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: ad also independent of anything else going on, hikeder electricity 177 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: bills in New York City by three point nine percent 178 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: this year, and they have another improved increase for next 179 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: year at three point three percent, and another one at 180 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: three point two percent twenty twenty eight. Add it all up, 181 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: so I'm looking at about a fourteen to fifteen percent 182 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: increase in the electricity prices. I guess, all things being equal, 183 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: and even if you get rid of these stupid climbate mandates, 184 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: UH electricity prices fifty percent higher than the national average 185 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: in New York City and the eighth highest in the 186 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: United States because of the policies. Doesn't have to be 187 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: that way. Memo league by Hocheal's office cover the potential 188 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: cost of this cap and trade program or captain invest program. 189 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: I like that, invest invest in what something that doesn't work. 190 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: We charge fossil fuel companies based upon the amount of 191 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: carbon emissions they spew. There we go, You exhale carbon 192 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: dioxide to the benefit of plants, and it is not 193 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: a pollutant, something naturally occurring. It exists in the atmosphere 194 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: to a certain percentage. It varies year after year and 195 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: decade after decade, and of course century after century, millennia 196 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: after millennia carbon carbon dioxide. When will people quit believing 197 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: that that is dangerous? Gasoline prices in New York going 198 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: to be climbing above the average highest in the United States. 199 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: California currently has the highest gas price. Governor Newsom talked 200 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: about the end of the day. He stepped at at 201 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: what he did. Now the Republican challenger in the election 202 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: coming up for New York Nasau County Executive, Bruce Blakeman, 203 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: he will make you tilt it cost an election issue affordability, Hey, 204 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: a Republican, make that issue too. He promised to repeal 205 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: this stupid climate law. This is driving the New Yorkers 206 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: to the point of where they can't afford anything. Of course, 207 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: on the other side, the leftists are screaming about how 208 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: the planet is going to die within the next hundred 209 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: years or something like that. Yeah, okay, sure, somebody go 210 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: back and watch Al Gore's movie and see if anything 211 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: he said came true. Five eighteen, fifty five Kcity the 212 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: talk station. Bobby, hang on to get you call in 213 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: a second. Got to take a quick break. He'll be 214 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: right back. This is fifty five karc An iHeartRadio station. 215 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: H'm Tuesday, and of course on Wednesday it'll be thirty 216 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: or something like that. Bobby. Welcome the morning show and 217 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: a very happy Tuesday to you, sir. 218 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: Happy holiday, my brother saith flag family, and a good spotter. 219 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: When you have those, you will always be able to 220 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: keep your freedom. 221 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: A good spotter what looking for drones flying in to 222 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: deliver payloads or something, Bobby. 223 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: But when you're fifteen hundred out, it's always good to 224 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: have an extra set of eyes. 225 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: That is true. You had someone with someone standing over 226 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: your shoulder with the dope sheet. 227 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: No, just right next to me on the right hand side. 228 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: Okay, those not to know the dop The dope sheet 229 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: is what your spoder will use to tell you what 230 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: your elevation and your windage and everything else is when 231 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: you're hit shooting targets long range. Anyway, Bobby, what's on 232 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: your mind today? 233 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. We got two people that 234 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: suspects in the mass shooting. I think they apprehend. 235 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: I saw that young men too, twenty four year old 236 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: Frenique Cobb and twenty nine year old Derek Long. 237 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: How long you think it'll be before they're out walking 238 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: the streets again. 239 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: Oh, they may be already. They're probably in front of 240 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: Judge Silverstein this yesterday afternoon. Yeah, slap, slap on the hand. 241 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: You know you'd be a good boy on recognizance. Don't 242 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: go anywhere, oh, and said Joe said, along with a 243 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: cup of juice and a cookie. 244 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what. 245 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: I hope they don't come in our neighborhood. 246 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: Well, if I was them, I know you, Bobby, I 247 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't be going into your neighborhood either. I live in 248 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: a neighborhood like your neighborhood. I think I feel very 249 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: safe in my neighborhood. Bobby, Great, Oh my, at the 250 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: risk Oh hell, I was going to say, at the 251 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: risk of running long, Joe, But I'm looking at the 252 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: rundown this morning, and I may not be to go 253 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: along with this USL and Gxport article, which was really fantastic. Anyhow, 254 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I'll just give you Governor Newsom's effort to try to 255 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: troll Donald Trump on the price of gasoline at gasoline 256 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: which is close to five dollars a gallon in California 257 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: because of well, their own climate policies. They're shutting down 258 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: of oil refineries and the refusal to drill into the 259 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: two billion barrels of oil that they've got underneath the 260 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: surface of the state of California. Let us see here, 261 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: what did he have to say say bragging about California 262 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: is declining gas prices. Quote says Governor news Average gas 263 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: prices in California have stayed below five dollars for nearly 264 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: two years. Joe, you know, we were paying about two 265 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: dollars and thirteen to twenty cents just the other day, 266 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: and generally in the state of Ohio. He's bragging about 267 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: keeping it under five. Meanwhile, people locally lamenting the fact 268 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: that the price of gasoline now is a little over 269 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: three dollars. Thank god, you're not in California, where the 270 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: price of course will go up there too because of 271 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: global realities. Right, they're not immune from it. In fact, 272 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: they're even worse off. Here's why Newsom concluded average gas 273 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: price stay below fin us for two years. Trump's new 274 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: war already rattling markets We're watching this space closely. Enter 275 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: the US Oil and Gas Association, shooting down Governor Newsom's 276 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: endeavors to beat up on Trump. California imports five eighths 277 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: of its oil from abroad, again in spite of the 278 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: fact they have two billion barrels of oil beneath the 279 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: surface of their own state. US Oil and Gas went 280 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: on to explain how each the countries from which the 281 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: Golden State imports its oil. Are you ready? Here's what 282 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: they said. Time to school pajama boy who runs this 283 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: account for the governor, because this isn't the flex on 284 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: Trump he thinks it is. California imports sixty three percent 285 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: of its group from foreign countries, despite sitting on at 286 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: least one point seven billion barrels of proven reserves, according 287 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: to the California Energy Commission. Here's the breakdown. Twenty one 288 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: percent comes from Iraq, twenty percent from Brazil, sixteen from Guyana, 289 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: fourteen from Ecuador, six percent of Colombia, four percent from Canada, 290 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: four from Mexico. United Arab admirates supply two percent, maybe 291 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: not for long. Saudi Arabia and other countries provide the 292 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: rest of the foreign share. The only state worried about 293 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: rattling foreign markets is California because you have let yourselves 294 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: be dependent on foreign supplies. You've done this to yourselves. Amen. 295 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: It's amazing how that is. It's the policies, folks. It's 296 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: not supply and demand, although yes, supplying demand is what's 297 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: impacting markets today. But if you got rid of your 298 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: stupid green agenda, you wouldn't be reeling with five dollar 299 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: approaching north of five dollar gasoline. Stick around more to 300 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: talk about coming up local stories. I of course prefer 301 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: phone calls. If you want to give me a call, 302 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from fifty on HGMG phones before 303 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: I get to the phones. Remind you that we did 304 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: money money with Brian James yesterday Energy Policy, looking forward 305 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: to having bring McGowan and sue you for an hour. 306 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: At some point. He was on for a couple of 307 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: segments yesterday regarding, of course energy in the war with 308 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: a run and its impact the Smith event episode one eight, 309 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: and he was ranting on fire with this Smith event yesterday. 310 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: Tonight's Tonight seven PM. Dan Reaganold reminded us yesterday with 311 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: a brief rundown of what he's going to be talking 312 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: about tonight. Empower you America dot org. Log in from home. 313 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: It's a virtual class on ten Eddie Roosevelt. I think 314 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: I learned more yesterday in about five or eight minutes 315 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: with Dan reganold than I knew about Teddy Roosevelt. And 316 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: there is so much to know about that guy described 317 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: it as larger than life and perhaps one of our 318 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: greatest presidents. Find out why he's on Mount Rushmore tonight, 319 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: seven pm. Over to the phones, Tom, thanks for calling 320 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: this morning. Happy Tuesday. 321 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, good morning. 322 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't have a two inches of 323 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 3: snow out here to deal with, so that's good. That is, hopefully, 324 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 3: hopefully all that snow stuff behind us. 325 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: Did drive buy any gas stations? 326 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: I actually did. I was going to bring that up. 327 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: So when I when I got off work yesterday, I 328 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 3: went to a restaurant and on my way there I 329 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: saw two fifty five, you know, somewhere in that range, 330 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: I did see. Some of the bigger truck stops out 331 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: on the highway were already over three dollars account, you know, 332 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: like whatever big truck stops on sixty five. So I 333 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: come out of the restaurant and those those gas stations 334 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: that were in the two fifties jumped up. So there's 335 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: a particular gas station up here in the northwest part 336 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: of Indianapolis. It's actually out in front of it's a 337 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 3: Walmart gas station and it's up on eighty sixth Street. 338 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: If for all those listeners are out here in Indianapolis 339 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: and you never know, you got people in Florida and 340 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: where else. You got people all over the world listening 341 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 3: to you, don't you. So there might be something in Indy. 342 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 3: But by the time I got down there, it was 343 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: still low. It's always the lowest gas station around this area. 344 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: And I got gas for two thirty nine yesterday, So 345 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what's happened to it since I don't 346 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: know if it's gone up yet, but I'll check before 347 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: the end of the week when I when I have 348 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: to go home, so to see if I guess up again. So, yeah, 349 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: a gas prices were jumping up, And like you said, 350 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 3: I understand some extent supply and demand. But yeah, Newsom 351 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: is an idiot to in most most democrats. Most Democrats, 352 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: when they get up on their soapbox, they prove how 353 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: much they're idiots, and especially the people who have some 354 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: common sense and realize, hey, what you're doing is taking 355 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: more money out of my pocket. You're already taking money 356 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: out of my pocket to just run the government in general. 357 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: And I get some of it's necessary, but your ridiculous 358 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: ideas that you come up with, you know. And the 359 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 3: funny thing is is when they say we are going 360 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: like at we the government, we're gonna put money into 361 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: this to make it more affordable for you, the money 362 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 3: that you're putting into it is coming out of my pocket. 363 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: Use supple ahead, so you're not making it cheaper for me. 364 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: You're making you're trying to make it look like you're 365 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: doing something to help me, when all the while you're 366 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: taking more money out of my pocket. Leave my pocket alone. Okay, 367 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: you get what you need to run your government, but 368 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 3: otherwise anything else, you're just stealing from me unnecessarily. And 369 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: it's out of stop and that, and that's the bottom 370 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: line for everybody. All the people out there that think, 371 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: oh raw rod Democrats and they're the ones out there 372 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: that care and help us, No they're not. They're the 373 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: ones out there doing more of taking your money and 374 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 3: using it for stupid stuff. And then and and everything 375 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 3: they do makes things more expensive for you, not not 376 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 3: to mention more dangerous for you. I mean, so it's 377 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: it's dumb. It's dumb to vote for Democrats. People don't 378 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: vote Democrats. Have a great day, Ran. 379 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: Thank you Tom very much. Appreciate that. 380 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: Who can argue with. 381 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: That requested SoundBite by me? Thank you Joe Strecker for 382 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: making good on my request. There five thirty five I 383 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: fifty five kr CD talk station stack is stupid coming 384 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: up five forty if if you have KRCD talk station 385 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: stacka stupid late updated the stack of stupid. They get 386 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: to Joe's tracker for shooting me over the photograph of 387 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: Cincinnati or SINSI rather on track your railroad dollars at work. 388 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: They're putting up signage to tout the projects they're doing so. 389 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: In this particular post from the City of Cincinnati, City 390 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: on Track signage is popping up and East probably still 391 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: receive the first batch of signage, which showcases projects funded 392 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: by the proceeds from the cell of the Cincinnati Southern Railroad. 393 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: More are coming soon to highlight how the city is 394 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: delivering visible improvements across the city. Well, they're delivering visible signage. 395 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: This particular project, the Warsaw Avenue Safety project. It even 396 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: has the project cost right there, ten nine hundred and 397 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: seventy six thousand, four hundred and sixty dollars and five cents. 398 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: That little rounding era on the end. You think they'd 399 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: rounded it up or down anyway. Question. This is a 400 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: this I suppose if they're playing by the rules, this 401 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: particular Warsaw Avenue safety project, and I don't know what 402 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: it entails. Joe thinks maybe it's speed bumps, assuming and 403 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: that's a big assumption, or presuming its related existing infrastructure. 404 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: Are the signs, which obviously have to be paid for 405 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: considered existing infrastructure? Yeah, I know they're Definitionally they wouldn't be, 406 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: but at least she get a sign, Thanks dad, Love 407 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: you man. Let's go here to it looks like Arizona, 408 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: where a woman stabbed a train rider more than a 409 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: dozen times after the victim allegedly started fighting with her. 410 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: Why are you doing that, Alante Wallace? She's thirty four. 411 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: She's charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon for 412 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: a stabbing that took place on February twelfth, accord to 413 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: the probable cause off at Affidavid rather, Wallace plunged a 414 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: steak knife into forty two year old woman at least 415 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: fourteen times, then returned to her seat, picked up a 416 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: pizza pizza box. She was carrying her Dexter's Laboratory cartoon 417 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: backpack and left incident. You know What's coming caught on 418 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: interior surveillance video. Affi David said Wallace seen leaving the 419 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: light railcar, hold of the knife in a right hand, 420 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: pizza box in the left, and carrying a white backpack. Backpack, 421 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: of course, depicted the cartoon character Dexter's Laboratory. She's thirty four, 422 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: okay what anyway? Apparently, she and the victim were observed 423 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: by witnesses engaging in a verbal confrontation that escalated into 424 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: a physical fight. According to the police, One witness reported 425 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: hearing the victim confront the suspect verbally before us the 426 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: assault a cord of the affidavit. During the physical struggle, 427 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: witnesses observed the suspect retrieving knife described as a stake knife, 428 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: and stabbed the victim repeatedly at close range. They say 429 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: Wallace stabbed the woman several times in her left thigh, 430 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: once in the right thigh, once in the left breast, twice, 431 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: in the left forearm, once in the right abdomen, once 432 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: in the left armpit twice in her jaw, described as 433 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: life threatening injuries. Several of the several of the stabs 434 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: were when the suspect was standing over the victim, who 435 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: was laying on her back in a defensive posture, with 436 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: the suspect using an overhead to downward stabbing motion. I 437 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: think you've resisted any attack that you might have perceived, ma'am. 438 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: You cannot continue using deadly violence when the attack has 439 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: been stopped. After the fight and fleeing, Wallace contacted a 440 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: defense attorney and then agree to turn herself in. Her 441 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: attorney stated that his client was in the was at 442 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: the light rail and was attacked, in which she defended 443 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: herself and then left the right light rail in shock 444 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: and apparently didn't want to provide any further statements peered 445 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: in court. Her lawyer again claims she committed the stabbing 446 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: attack and self defense, draw your own conclusions. Wasn't in 447 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: front of Judge Silverstein and here in Hamilton County. She 448 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: was order held on three hundred and fifty thousand dollars bond. 449 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: Here y'all day, Welcome to the morning show. Happy Tuesday 450 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: to you, Dave. 451 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 5: I I was just going to say the money that 452 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 5: they're using the railroad funds for is give the people 453 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 5: Cincinnati something to shoot at instead of each other, or. 454 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: To spray paint with graffiti. Right, Dave, there's that option 455 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: with a sign, right. 456 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: Are it's important art? 457 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll get a grant. 458 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 5: Okay, well there you go thinking outside the box. 459 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: You you know what, Well done, Dave good Man. 460 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: You know don't don't vote Democrat. 461 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: I like that. Thank you, Dave. I have a great day, brother, 462 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: five forty five if you five car se DE talk 463 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: station od O r XIT otor exit doc station five 464 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: fifty fifty five kr CD talk station. Very happy Tuesday 465 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: to you. Returning to the sack of stupid the absence 466 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: of phone calls, which our absent right now five one 467 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 1: three seven fifty five eight hundred two three talk. When 468 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: are you gonna learn? You're doing something illegal, immoral and 469 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: unethical and some would describe as rather disgusting. We shouldn't 470 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: probably document it with a whole bunch of text messages. 471 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: And here we got to form a son, the son 472 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: of a former small town mayor, claiming he caught his 473 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: mom having sex with his sixteen year old friend at 474 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: a late night pool party. What forty three year old 475 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: Misty Roberts, former important Word mayor of Deritter, Louisiana, out 476 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: charge with a third degree rate contributing to the delinquency 477 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: of juveniles over a twenty twenty four gathering at her home. 478 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: She pleaded not guilty and involved with a second trial. 479 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: The first one was a mistrial. Jurors heard from Robert's 480 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: own children in this trial. Her ex husband, longtime friend, 481 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: a door dash driver, and multiple teenagers were all there 482 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: for the pool party. One of the most emotional moments, 483 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: the interview of Robert's son that was recorded prior year, 484 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: played entirely for the jury, where her son said he 485 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: saw his mom having sex with his friend through a 486 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: crack in the window. His text message between mom and 487 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: her son displayed in court. In one he warned her 488 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: he's seventy authorities that have pointed out no, he was 489 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: actually sixteen. Her son testified he was not certain that 490 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: he saw Roberts, although the testimony that was recorded said 491 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: he definitely saw her through the crack in the door. 492 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: He was trying to backpedal a little bit in court. 493 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Other texts warning shown to jurors included exchanges about what 494 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: alcohol they wanted for the party. Messages from that night 495 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: also showed the son telling his mom that what was 496 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: happening was crazy and that his younger sister was crying 497 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: about it. Juror showed it because they're idiots. Great parenting 498 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: going on there. Jurors also showing photographs from the party, 499 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: including images of miners holding drinks near the pool. Prosecuted 500 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: to describe what are the images of Roberts in a 501 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: bikini standing near the teen who appeared to be smiling 502 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: and looking up her and looking up at her as 503 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: lewde Court also heard that after the legend kund of 504 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: the teams, the teen's mother, the abused sixteen year old 505 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: teen's mother texted Roberts to end sure that she was 506 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: not pregnant. Prosecutor said Roberts reply that she was on 507 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: birth control and that later she shared a screenshot of 508 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: an exchange in the group chat suggesting she would also 509 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: take a plan be enter the door dash driver who 510 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: testified that he accepted a request from Misty C to 511 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: purchase emergency contraception and leave it at Robert's front door. 512 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: As this tradition, Robert's ex husband told jurors she confessed 513 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: to him directly. She resigned his mayor days before her 514 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four arrest bond conditions. Illstenally initially limited her 515 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: contact with her children without her ex husband present and 516 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: revoked child support. On so many levels, Joe, so many levels. 517 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: Toledo got a Toledo man involved in an alleged skiing 518 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: to poses a law enforcement to protect his girlfriend's bar job. 519 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Who's now accused of attempted murder? Wh Why are you 520 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: doing that? Let's find out together. Kenneth Upchurch and Amanda Lancaster, 521 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: both forty one indicted, Both charged with the impersonation of 522 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: a peace officer and telecommunications fraud. Cord to the documents, 523 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: the couple sent several text messages in an email to 524 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: Lancaster's boss at the Old Bag of Nails restaurant, posing 525 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: as the woman's probation officer and asking her supervisor to 526 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: excuse her for being late to work. Officers said the 527 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: couple sent the fraudulent messages because they were worried the 528 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: Lancaster would be fired for not showing up on time. 529 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: Up Church also facing charges of attempted murder and felonius 530 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: assault for an alleged incident that happened at the Old 531 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: Bag of Nales parking lot a week later, November sixteenth, 532 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: The manager of the restaurant reportedly seeing Upchurch using a 533 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: tool to cut the brake line of the motorcycle she 534 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: had driven to work that day. Multiple other employees Thomson 535 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: what Old officers they also saw up Church cut the 536 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: brake line. Records show the manager reported having multiple issues 537 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: with Lancaster and Upton, causing issues with staff at the 538 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: at the restaurant. Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots. Yes, 539 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: And finally, here in Ohio, specifically Summit County, women arrested 540 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: after she allegedly stolen ambulance from an Acron scene. Akron 541 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: firefighters and crews called out to a medical call. When 542 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: they were there evaluated the patient, the suspect jumped into 543 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: the ambulance and drove away. Another ambulance immediately sent to 544 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: the scene, and of course, the police were called. Shortly 545 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: after two am, police found the stolen ambulance a couple 546 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: of blocks away in the parking lot of a former 547 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: chapel Hill mall woman taking it to custody without incident, 548 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: charge with grand theft, misconduct and an emergency and disrupting 549 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: public service. Her name yet to be released, You moron, 550 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, and that's one of those things. Why five 551 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: and five five k see the talk station. A lot 552 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: more coming up in the six o'clock hour. If you 553 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: want to steer the direction. There's like nine billion places 554 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: we could go this morning. I've selected one or two, 555 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: but you may have a better idea five one, three, seven, 556 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: fifty eight hundred eighty two to three talk pound five 557 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: fifty on AT and T phones to be right back. 558 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: We put the app in Happening the talk station to 559 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: fifty five KRC, the talk station, Happy Tuesday. My name 560 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: is Brian Thomas, host to the fifty five KRC Morning Show, 561 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: Executive producer. This show is Joe Strecker. Without him, there 562 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't be one and got some great topics coming up 563 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: this morning. I was talking about the price of gasoline 564 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: has already gone up in our area thanks to the 565 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: Gulf War that's going on right now. Of course that 566 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: was expected for a lot of reasons, but the energy 567 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: policies of the Democrats are coming home to roost on them. 568 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: As I pointed out, even New York's mayor, our governor 569 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: is now trying to roll back their green agenda because 570 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: it's going to send the price of fuel and gasoline 571 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: and natural gas in their state through the roof ah 572 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: and November elections coming up. Why would she back off 573 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: green policies. That's because there's election coming up. Democrats running 574 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: almost exclusively on affordability. It isn't affordable there and the 575 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 1: primary reason because they think carbon dioxide is killing the world. Okay, 576 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: but when elections are coming up and your constituents starts 577 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: screaming about the price, you want to do something that 578 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: will immediately have an impact, and that is, of course, 579 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: stop pursuing your religion, your false religion, and roll back 580 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: the dumb idea of trying to get rid of carbon 581 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: dioxide completely within the next decade or so. That's them, Okay. Anyway, 582 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: moving forward, Coming up at seven thirty, Tom z Awastowski 583 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: we the People Conventions. Tom's going to talk about what 584 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: happened when No More Property Tax group met with Vveke Ramaswami. 585 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: Don't know the answer to that question. We'll see a 586 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: VvE VVIS on board or not also property tax, the 587 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: polling in Ohio and which direction the Ohiolands seem to 588 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: be leaning in terms of getting rid of property tax. 589 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: Remember that's a constitutional amendment, so lots of challenges in 590 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: the aftermath of that, as we've talked about many times 591 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: on the Morning show. And going to have a good 592 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: conversation with Tom at seven thirty he'll enlighten all of us. 593 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: Eight to five, the return of the Inside Scoop with 594 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: bright Barton News London Bureau chief Oliver Lane. What's with 595 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom's response to the situation in the Middle 596 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: East and finally actually not finally apologized Daniel Davis Deep 597 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: Dive every Tuesday at eight thirty. Of course, we're going 598 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: to be talking about Iran and a big worry right 599 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: now as has been reported, given the number of interceptors 600 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: that they're going through that will be Israel, all of 601 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: the Arab countries surrounding it that have been suppried with 602 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: interceptors that are also being attacked oddly by the Iranians. 603 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: Of course, the military bases all have their interceptors, as 604 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: a finite number of those going around and the barrage 605 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: of rockets coming from the Iranians is pretty overwhelming. I mean, 606 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: the United Arab Emirates alone said yesterday that it has 607 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: been targeted by one hundred and seventy four Iranian ballistic missiles, 608 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: eight cruise missiles, and count them, six hundred and eighty 609 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: nine drones over the course of just three days. No 610 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: missiles and only forty four drones hit their country. But 611 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: the no missiles hit because they have the interceptors, and 612 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: now we're worried that they're going to run out of them. 613 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: How many missiles do the Iranians have? How many drones 614 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: do the Iranian have? Do the Iranians have? Good question. 615 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: Some are saying they had more than two thousand missiles, 616 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: many of which may have been blown up over the 617 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: course of the last several days. I don't think anybody 618 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: knows the number of that, and how many drones do 619 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: they have. Those are inexpensive, and the interceptors that we 620 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: are shooting them down with are really, really expensive, and 621 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: of course the manufacturers of those interceptors cannot keep up 622 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: with global demand. Think of every single base and country 623 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: just within that conflict is going to need those interceptors, 624 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: and we can't afford to take all of interceptors out 625 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: of circulation around the globe and send them there because 626 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: it leaves everybody else vulnerable. Very complicated, and I'm looking 627 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: forward to hearing what Daniel Davis has to say about that, 628 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 1: and also whether he has any optimism, notwithstanding the fact 629 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: that some are still suggesting this is a I mean 630 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: war powers act of course, the declaration of war vested 631 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: in Congress. What's going to happen if they do a 632 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: war powers resolution? Are they going to pull the plug immediately? 633 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: Difficult situation. But the other thing I want, I just 634 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: wanted to where is that here? It is go back 635 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: to energy policy, and I thought this was this is 636 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: great as a foil to the crazy Democrats. The drill, Baby, drill. 637 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: All the above energy strategy has actually not only helped us, 638 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: but has also helped the globe, most notably in dealing 639 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: with our foreign adversaries China and Russia. As they point out, 640 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: Cutters shut down its national gas export production yesterday, this 641 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: after a drone attack from Iran. Global prices for LNG 642 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: Looqua natural gas shot up as a consequence, but not 643 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: nearly as much as they might have thanks to America's 644 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: LNG export boom over the past decade. They're right, success 645 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: that deserves more publicity, which is why I'm pointing this out, 646 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: especially since the progressive left wants to literally shut down 647 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: exports of LNG. For decades, we were a importer of 648 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: natural gas. The boom and shelle and fracking that began 649 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: back in the mid two thousands unleashed cheap and abundant 650 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: natural gas. There's one company out there called Cheneray. I 651 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: think it's a pronouncing it right. They took the risk 652 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: of converting what had been an LNG import facility into 653 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: an export facility in twenty sixteen. They started exporting from 654 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: the lower forty eight States to foreign countries in February 655 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 1: of that year, and more companies have joined in the fun. 656 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: Now we have eight LNG export terminals which ship roughly 657 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: roughly fifteen billion cubic feet a day, described as enough 658 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: gas to heat eighteen million homes during the winter daily. 659 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: We've surpassed Australia, Connor and Russia and have now become 660 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: the world's top LNG exporter, to great financial gain. I 661 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: might point out to get to that in a minute. 662 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: The Biden administration last year or in twenty twenty four 663 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: sought to appease the climate left with an LNG export 664 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: permitting pause, obviously creating uncertainty and slow the development of 665 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: new projects. See actions have consequences. Their policies result in 666 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: oh look, slowing down this process. Trump lifted the ban 667 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: Energy Department rapidly approving new terminals and expansions, including one 668 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: last week in Corpus Christi, Texas. USLNG exports surged forty 669 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: percent last year, capacity projected to be doubled by twenty 670 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: thirty one. Boy, we got a lot of natural gas, 671 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: don't we. USLNG exports now total about one hundred and 672 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars in sales every single day, which of 673 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: course is an economic boost that's benefited businesses across the 674 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: United States supply chain. It's also helped here you go 675 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: the help Europe wean itself from Russian gas after Vladimir 676 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: Putin's invasion of Ukraine. You want to deal with the 677 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine. Cut off the source of funding. We 678 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: help Europe wean itself off Russian natural gas. Well, Europe 679 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: screens bloody murder about we need to do something about 680 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Yeah, we'll quit funding it 681 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: entered the United States of America. Europe's share of USLNG 682 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: exports have doubled his sixty eight percents sixty eight percent 683 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: since the war began. Now US exports about as much 684 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: gas to Europe as Russia did before the war. Increasing 685 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: exports has helped US ease global prices that spiked when 686 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: the war began. Lower prices have in turn given European 687 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: leaders political running room to toughened sanctions on Russia. Huh 688 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: without US, they couldn't, because Russia has a stranglehold on Europe. 689 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: Because Europe a bunch of idiots that think they don't 690 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: can't drill their own Sorry, had to interject Wall Street 691 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: Journal editorial board. Russian oil revenues last year fell to 692 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: the lowest level since twenty twenty, when prices plunged during 693 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: the pandemic. Sales have fallen by half during the first 694 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: two months of this year compared to last year, amid 695 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: tougher sanctions enforcement reduced exports thanks to US and lower prices. 696 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: All this is squeezing Rush's economy and budget forty percent, 697 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 1: which funds its military, hitting them right in the growing there. 698 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: US exports and employees to mitigate supply disruptions caused by 699 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: the war with Iran. Twenty percent of the world's LNG 700 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: transits through the straits of horn Mews, which yesterday the 701 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: Iranians say they shut down completely, and much of that 702 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: gas comes from cutter American exports have reduced Europeans Europe's 703 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: vulnerability to Middle East supply shocks. You're welcome, Europe. Despite 704 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 1: these economic and strategic benefits, progressives continue to oppose US 705 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: LNG exports. Turned to ten Democratic senators that wrote to 706 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: the Energy Secretary Chris Right last week calling for a 707 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: halt to LNG exports. The Trump administration's LNG export policies 708 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: are not putting America first. They have jacked up utility 709 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: prices for families, leaving many amata and struggling with the 710 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: cost of heating their homes this winter. Whoa really exports? 711 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: Did that? Huh? Turning back to Governor Hokeel turning her 712 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: back on a twenty nineteen piece of legislation that demanded 713 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: they get to zero carbon emissions by relying on solar 714 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: and wind i guess which are causing the New York 715 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 1: and the general Northeast regions gas prices to go through 716 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: the bloody roof. Maybe we shouldn't go down that road. 717 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not our export policies. Maybe it's us We 718 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: won't even build a pipeline. Also pointed out by the 719 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: General here in a minute, The reality is prices rose 720 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 1: last year from a near record low in twenty twenty four. 721 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 1: Prices last week thirteen three dollars and thirteen three dollars 722 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: and thirteen cents per million BTUs, about the same as 723 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and generally ranging between two and three dollars 724 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: per million BTUs over the entire last decade, aside from 725 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: one spike in twenty twenty two when Ukraine War disrupted 726 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: global supply, US gas production since increased by twenty percent, 727 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: which has curbed prices while feeding increased exports. Nine of 728 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: the ten letters signers notably held from the Northeast, where 729 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: gas prices are higher during the winter because of shortages 730 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: caused by constraints on natural gas pipelines. Thank you to 731 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: the green energy policies. The culprit isn't LNG exports. It's 732 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: the anti fossil fuel policies of Democrat governors who block 733 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: pipelines that could transport cheap gas from Appalachia's Shelle deposits. 734 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: In the Northeast, They're sitting on billions and billions of 735 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: cubic feed of natural gas. It's right next to them, 736 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania's great source of natural gas. They've been drilling it 737 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: for years. What the Northeast states don't want it now? 738 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: Apparently they don't. Why Well, because it's fossil fuel and 739 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 1: that is bad or something limiting lergy exports won't reduce 740 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 1: domestic energy prices, though it could press natural gas production 741 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: is what the left really wants. American leg is writing 742 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: to the Rescue of the World at COMME in today 743 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: and it's another example of why political choices matter. Yep. 744 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: And in November they have a choice. In New York 745 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: you want to stick with Hochel and her crazy policies. 746 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: Do you believe her when she wants to roll back 747 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen law they passed there? I wouldn't how 748 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 1: many years has she been talking about We're all gonna 749 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: die because of carbon dioxide only to just now pivot 750 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: because I think her constituents are expressing a bit of 751 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: anger about what's going on now and the thousands of 752 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: dollars they are facing in increases in gas as well 753 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: as gasoline in the near term. Six eighteen fifty five 754 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: K see the talk station Gate of Heaven's Cemetery. What 755 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: a beautiful place they've been serving the Cincinnti Christian community 756 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 1: for I guess seventy eight years. 757 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 6: The talk station. 758 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: Fifty five Karsite talks very Happy Tuesday or Tuesday to 759 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: you fifty eight two to three talk found five fifty 760 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: on AT and T phones. Ask some good news from 761 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court yesterday. It was a split decision, but 762 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: parents likely it's not over yet, likely have a constitutional 763 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: right to be informed of their children if they adopt 764 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: new pronouns, use a different name, or take steps to 765 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: transition to a new gender identity while at school. You 766 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 1: have a right to know. Unsigned seven page opinion decided 767 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: on its emergency doc It said you know when a 768 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: child exhibits symptoms of gendertice for you at school. California 769 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: policies conceal the information from parents and facilitated degree of 770 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: gender transitioning during school hours. These policies likely violate the 771 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: parent's right to direct the upbringing and education of their children. 772 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: Likely first, the two rulings on the emergency dock at 773 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: the Court dealt with yesterday Separate one Congratulations Republicans in 774 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: New York. They halted an effort to redraw the congressional 775 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: district in New York after a judge found that the 776 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: existing boundaries dilute the power of black and Latino voters. 777 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 1: That decision reverse. Now, this California case was a state 778 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 1: policy that allowed transgender students to socially transition in school 779 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: without the parents being automatically notified. Supreme Court ruling yesterday 780 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: bars the state from enforcing the policy while the litigation 781 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: over its legality is it continues. So again, Fat Lady 782 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: hasn't sung on the overall issue. But I think the 783 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: Supreme Court in addressing this in their emergency docket, which 784 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: did get Justice Kagan a little upset, you know the 785 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: direction they're going to go when it's finally adjudicated in 786 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: front of the Supreme Court. Kagan said in her dissent 787 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: that the majority is using shortcut procedures on the emergency 788 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: docket to resolve complex legal questions without full briefing or arguments. 789 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: That may be the case, but you know, there is 790 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: a thing called likelihood of success on the merits, which 791 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: is used when dealing with preliminary and junct will, the 792 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: judge determines whether or not the person seeking the injunction 793 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: is likely to win. That's telegraphing what the ultimate outcome is, 794 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: and that sounds to me exactly what the Supreme Court 795 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: did yesterday on it's emergency docket. Parents, you have the 796 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 1: right in California. Can't take that right away from you, Amen, 797 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: and making that another argument for school choice. I imagine 798 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: there are a lot of schools out there beyond the 799 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: public schools, which have a policy which requires teachers to 800 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: identify two parents when their children start claiming there's someone 801 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: of the opposite sex, recognizing that you cannot change your 802 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: chromosomal reality, and surgery won't do it either. Six twenty five. 803 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: Right now, if you five k see the talk station. 804 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: What a great, great product, Rhinoshield is. 805 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 6: Here the talk station. 806 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: Thirty fifty five KRCD talk station. Ain't it be Tuesday? 807 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: Five three eighty two to three talks special request from Streker. 808 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: Hey get a couple of these local stories and Jay's 809 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: on the phone. Jay, hang on real quick here because 810 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 1: reparations may be coming too. The city of Cincinnati made 811 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: national headlines this time Fox News National Reporting, and I 812 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: saw this in the I believe The enquire the other 813 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: day as well. It matters not since a city council 814 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: will consider a reparations housing program Cincinnati real Property Reparations program, 815 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: that's the name of it, proposal from Vice Mayor Jehn 816 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 1: michel lemon Kearney and Scottie Johnson, councilman. Program allegedly will 817 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: offer assistance to what they describe as low to moderate 818 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: income residents and any individual or family member of an 819 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 1: individual who was prevented from buying a home due to 820 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: discriminatory practices. Well, this apparently relates to a housing policy 821 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: that this is the way it's reported from the nineteen twenties, 822 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: a discrimination We did have those those zones that it's 823 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: apparently the city's real estate board forbid agents from selling 824 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: or renting homes to black residents in white or suburban 825 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: neighborhoods at the time. Which is why I say, I'm 826 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: going back to the language and the verbiage of the 827 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: reparation statute that it means it's for individuals who were 828 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 1: prevented from buying a home. And I don't think anybody's 829 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: been around more than one hundred years that might have 830 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: to have dealt with the nineteen twenties discrimination policy. I 831 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: don't know though, But then again, or family member of 832 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: one of those, Now, how far down the generational change 833 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: does that go? I don't know that either. Anyway, They 834 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: claim it's initial investment, if you want to use that word, 835 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: of five million dollars using proceeds from the marijuana tax 836 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: revenue and the city's capital budget, because I guess the 837 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: marijuana proceeds aren't enough that accorded reporting from the enquire 838 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 1: the program allegedly will be targeting residents in fifteen of 839 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: the city's fifty two neighborhoods. Wait for that to expand, 840 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: because remember this is an initial investment. So we'll get 841 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 1: to the other two the rest of the neighborhoods later. 842 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,720 Speaker 1: We're going to start with the fifteen that I suppose 843 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: we randomly selected, would allow recipients to use the money 844 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 1: for a down payment paid the link when property taxes 845 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: or emergency home repairs are we a wash in cash, Joe. 846 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,879 Speaker 1: This is a new development for me. All right, Jay, 847 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: welcome to the Morning Show. Thanks for calling this morning. 848 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: Always good to hear from you. 849 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 7: Okay, good morning, Brian. Hey, speaking of being a wash 850 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 7: in cash, My my question is, and what I've been 851 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 7: listening for, is are we going to get reimbursed we 852 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 7: us in the American people finally for fixing the world's problems. 853 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 7: And let's start with the three F fifteen fighter jets 854 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 7: that got shot down by cash rich KUWAITI yeah, frankly 855 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 7: for the yeah, yes, unacceptable. So I want the jets 856 00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 7: paid for more importantly any anything, but those pilo its 857 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 7: need to rest in their families the rest of their lives. 858 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 7: They pay for it. The five casualties were up to 859 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 7: this point. I want those cash rich countries around Iran 860 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 7: to pay for it, and maybe Iran itself. Well, I 861 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 7: did some quick research. They have eighteen million men of 862 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 7: fighting age that could have got up off their ass 863 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 7: at any point and taken this on a country. Let's 864 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 7: say there's one thousand leaders and eighteen million people that 865 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 7: could have solved their own problems. But Europe, the Middle East, 866 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 7: all these interceptor missiles. If we pay for every dollar 867 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 7: we paid Lockheed Martin, I want one hundred dollars back 868 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 7: to pay off this thirty six trillion dollar debt, and 869 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 7: I would say that that's a pretty good deal because 870 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 7: we paid for all the R and D, all the 871 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 7: engineering development programs to go on for years and years 872 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 7: and years and years before there's things go on to 873 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 7: market and we buy from them. So I'm hoping that 874 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 7: for the for one time, just once, we the American 875 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 7: people and the American military and everybody that takes a 876 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 7: loss of life here gets reimbursed richly from these countries 877 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 7: that made poor decisions resulting in US happened to go 878 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 7: in yet again and take care of the world's problems. 879 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: Well, I guess one may argue is that a two 880 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 1: way street because our military interventions, bombing and killing people 881 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing haven't always worked out to 882 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: our advantage, like for example, and ignoring the predicate that 883 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: got us in there. But we did spend a lot 884 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: of money in a lot of years and killed a 885 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: lot of people, and pick a country, Afghanistan. We have 886 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: to pay back for the bombs and the missiles and 887 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: the loss of life that we inflicted upon them and 888 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: then turned tail and cowardly ran away or Vietnam. 889 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 3: I think that's a fair point. 890 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my point. That's fair point that maybe why 891 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: we don't do it, And I'll pivot over to just 892 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: suggest and I know the terriff reality and our ultimate 893 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 1: relationship with the NATO countries who rebuilt Europe after World 894 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: War Two. We spent a ton of money helping them out. 895 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: Why well was devastated, But we built trading partners. We 896 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 1: built an economic seemingly at least on some level of 897 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 1: free market, a system of countries over there that played 898 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: nicely with us for a long period of time and 899 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: also served as a wonderful foil for the threat posed 900 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: by the Soviet Union. So we got to benefit out 901 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: of that as well. So you got to look beyond 902 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: just mere dollars and cents and look at the long 903 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: term future. Now, thinking about the Middle East Abraham Accords, 904 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: those were done to secure economic cooperation and improvement of 905 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: the lives and cooperation among a bunch of countries in 906 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: the Middle East, this seems like a next step toward it. 907 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: You get rid of the crazy Iranians, you have created 908 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: a much more stable environment that's going to inure to 909 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people's benefits, and I would think very 910 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: mightily financially for United States as well, since we're the 911 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: ones that helped out along the way. 912 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 7: Just the thought, Well, yeah, I would hope so. But 913 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 7: take a look at how grateful great Britain is for 914 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 7: us today. 915 00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 1: Well, no, today, today we're generations from conquering the Germans 916 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: in the Japanese and World War Two. They'd remember it 917 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: if it was that generation, they'd remembered it. Now they're 918 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of socialists, and don't forget they've been overrun 919 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: by a bunch of Middle Eastern fundamentalists who do not 920 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: have a witsworth of concern for British culture or the 921 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: fact that British culture owes the American people a lot 922 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 1: for World War Two. You know, it's a complicated world. 923 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: Opinions change, attitudes change. They weren't full on socialists when 924 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: we liberated them, and they weren't full on socialist after 925 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: we rebuilt them. They ended up going that direction, and 926 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: I would argue, to their peril, appreciate it. I would agree, 927 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Jay, It's a good point, but it's a 928 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: lot more complicated than that. And those are the complications 929 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: they just pulled out of my sphincter here in the 930 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: last couple of seconds six point thirty seven fifty five 931 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 1: cares six forty two fifty five KRC detalk station Happy 932 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: Tuesday five one three seven fifty five hundred, eight hundred 933 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: eighty two to three talks pound five fifty on eight 934 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: T and T phones pivoting away from well lng to 935 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 1: the rescue price of gas going through the roof. Who's doing? 936 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,760 Speaker 1: What about it? And what else are the Democrats proposing? 937 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: They Tom brought this up a little bit. I alluded 938 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: to it a little bit. I have just been so 939 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: beyond my beyond my understanding, kind of like the peace 940 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: of God, that we generally at least accept the idea 941 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: that it's acceptable to take money from people, most notably 942 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 1: the rich. This class warfare thing. Of course, it is 943 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: the foundation for socialism and Marxism. They've got more than you, 944 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: tapping into whatever God given reality we have that we 945 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: typically are born with some measure of covetousness and greed 946 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,760 Speaker 1: and envy. Why is that part of the human condition? 947 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it's part of our survival mechanism. If you are 948 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,399 Speaker 1: greedy or envious, maybe you don't steal from somebody else 949 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 1: because that's a violation of society's rules, and maybe a 950 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: commandment or two. It means you got to do it yourself. Whatever. 951 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what our genetic disposition is that call 952 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: it God's creation, but we do have to struggle with that. 953 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: And no one taps into that more than the socialists 954 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: and Marxist and no one more than socialists and Marxists 955 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,280 Speaker 1: used your, maybe your Judeo Christian ethic to justify government 956 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: policies that reach into your pocket and literally steal from you. 957 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: But when you have a choice, you flee that. See California, 958 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: New York, and Illinois over the COVID nineteen thing. Obviously 959 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 1: I do I need to go back over the history 960 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: that they have literally lost hundreds of thousands of wealthy 961 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: people who can afford to move. I'll point that out 962 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,959 Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars in tax revenue. And here's 963 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 1: an interesting and almost comical one. California Padres were hoping 964 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 1: to secure Arizona Diamondbacks pitcher Merrill Kelly. They offered him 965 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: forty million dollars for two years. Now, the Diamondbacks offered 966 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: him forty million dollars over three years. 967 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 4: Now. 968 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: Who did Merrill Kelly choose to go with? Yeah, he 969 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: took the three year option. When he explained his decision 970 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: he was speaking with me, he said, quote, I don't 971 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: think it's an easy any secret on how much money 972 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: you get taken out of your pocket when you go 973 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: to California. So apparently he did the math on this, 974 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,399 Speaker 1: and given the onerous reality and the tax burden there 975 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: prus the fact that everything else is so much more 976 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 1: damn expensive in California, he figured working an extra year 977 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: for the same paycheck would work out to his advantage. 978 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: Probably living in Arizona's a hell of a lot more 979 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,399 Speaker 1: fun than California too, but whatever, that's a subjective thing. 980 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: So there's one who decided he has an option, and wealth, 981 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: like the wealthy, is mobile, and both the wealth and 982 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: the wealthy are leaving California for the obvious reasons, pivoting 983 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: over now if you can't flee, Do you remember it 984 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago the United Nations wanted to impose 985 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: a global minimum tax on corporates. Talk about globalism. Everybody's 986 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: going to pay the same now, why do you think 987 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: they might want to do that? That's because corporations, like 988 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 1: individuals here in the United States, have freedom of movement. 989 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 1: They can go away someplace else. But if you have 990 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: a global tax structure that flattens it or levels it 991 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: out and makes it the same everywhere you go, that 992 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: prevents countries from competing against each other. One of the 993 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: reasons we are so damned successful in the United States 994 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: of America is because you here in the state of Ohio, 995 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: my friends in the Commonwealth, my friends in Indiana, my 996 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: friends everywhere else, Iowa, New York, and California are all 997 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: competing against each other. I know I'm stating the obvious, 998 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: and don't accuse me of man splinning. I'm just trying 999 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 1: to drive a solid point home before I launch into 1000 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, who appreciates that reality and is now proposing 1001 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: a five percent billionaire wealth tax. Right, Senator Bernie Sanders, 1002 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: this is a proposal nationally, a federal national tax which 1003 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: we events billionaires from. Well, they could leave the country maybe, 1004 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: but they couldn't leave for differ state. This tax will 1005 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: follow them. And why does he want to do it? 1006 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 1: He wants to buy votes. He and Representative Rocanna California 1007 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: launched the bill yesterday, five percent annually on America's billionaire 1008 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: Sanders claims there are nine hundred and thirty eight people 1009 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: that will be impacted by this. Look at them, those 1010 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: evil billionaires. You're never going to be one of them. 1011 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 1: We should take what they've got in spite of the 1012 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: fact they employ a lot of people. They claim it 1013 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 1: would raise four point four trillion dollars over ten years. Well, 1014 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: at least that's what University of California, Berkeley says. Now 1015 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: here's the big question. What's he going to do with it? 1016 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: Business insider letting us know flashyest proposal ready buying votes 1017 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 1: at one time three thousand dollars direct payment to each 1018 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: American singular in households making one hundred and fifty grand 1019 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: or less annually. That will be twelve thousand dollars for 1020 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: a family of four. Stealing from one group and handing 1021 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: it to another. Well, because the one group's got more 1022 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: than the other. That's not fair, it's sinful. Now get 1023 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: a load of tod It's not just that. Here's what 1024 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: else they want to fund with this. The recently expired 1025 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act tax credits. Also to reverse cuts in 1026 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: Medicaid made by the One Big Beautiful Bill Act passed 1027 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: by Congress and acted into law. Expand Medicare to cover 1028 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: dental vision and hearing for seniors, build, rehabilitate, and preserve 1029 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: over seven million affordable homes, and sure families don't spend 1030 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 1: more than seven percent of their income on childcare. If 1031 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: you do, I guess you're gonna be eligible for a 1032 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: slice of the billionaire's money. I think it's quickly running 1033 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: out as I moved through this list. Establish a sixty 1034 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars minimum annual salary for public school teachers. Oh 1035 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: my god, is that not socialism? And everybody makes the 1036 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 1: same minimum, doesn't matter if you live in an inexpensive city. 1037 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean, compare the price living for a teacher in 1038 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco versus one in pick A City, Poughkeepsie, Iowa. 1039 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: I bet it's cheaper in Iowa. Everybody that is going 1040 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: to get a sixty thousand dollar minimum salary. It's like 1041 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 1: a national minimum wage cap. You know, it's twenty two 1042 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: dollars across this great land. Yeah, twenty two dollars doesn't 1043 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: go as far in New York City as it does 1044 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati, for example. Expand mediciate home healthcare for 1045 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: seniors and people with disabilities. You know how many retired 1046 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 1: seniors there are out there now? It's a growing population. 1047 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: You know how many are going to need home health care. 1048 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the four trillion dollars would even cover that. 1049 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: And of course he took a shot at Elon Musk. 1050 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: He's like the evil Orange man among the wealthy because 1051 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: he well is now a Republican and is fighting for 1052 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: conservative or maybe even libertarian policies. He's the world's richest man, 1053 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: so of course he's an easy target. Let's go after 1054 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Elon Musk. He would owe forty two billion dollars in 1055 01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 1: taxes in the first year, so you can't run from 1056 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders and Rokana. How about that six forty nine 1057 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: fifty five KRC the talk station. Yeah, more to talk 1058 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: about coming up. I got Bob on the phone, Bob, 1059 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: and take your call right out of the go. Bob, 1060 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding over the break there. Welcome to the 1061 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: fifty five KRC Morning Show. 1062 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Martin. 1063 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 1: How's it going gone good? Bob's on your mind? 1064 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 3: Well, it's You. 1065 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 8: Talked about the Democrats and that kind of threw me 1066 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 8: off a little bit, but Democrats would be Democrats. But 1067 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 8: I was just wanting to talk about the Iran and 1068 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 8: Ward We're not in right now because I'm trying to 1069 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 8: make sense of it. I'm not against it, Don't get 1070 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 8: me wrong. They killed a lot of people over there 1071 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 8: for no reasons. My question is this Trump was on 1072 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 8: the news after the first attack that he took care 1073 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 8: of all the pendicular problems over in Iran. Now here 1074 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 8: we are yet again saying the same thing. So it 1075 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 8: was the first one to lie or did the mission 1076 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 8: tell and now we're doing this again? Or is this 1077 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 8: more directed towards China and Russia and they don't want 1078 01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 8: to come out. 1079 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: Well maybe a little bit mixed bag of all the above. 1080 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: I think the argument from the Trump administration and I'm 1081 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 1: just putting words in their mouth. Yeah, we destroyed the 1082 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: enrichment facilities and their ability to enrich uranium to a 1083 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 1: nuclear grade power in the first strike. The second level 1084 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: is they're rebuilding it. We had evidence that they're rebuilding 1085 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: their nuclear weapons program. So we've got to stop them 1086 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: from doing that and basically prevent them from doing anything 1087 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: along those lines on into the future. And that's where 1088 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: the regime change part comes in. Now they'll argue that, no, 1089 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: we're not necessarily about regime change, but if they completely 1090 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,439 Speaker 1: emasculate the Iranian army, they blow up all the navy 1091 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 1: and they try to get rid of as many of 1092 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: them with missiles and weapons. They've effectively rendered Iran well impossible, 1093 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: incapable of defending itself, and of course financially devastated. And 1094 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 1: if you don't have any money flowing into your country, 1095 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: you might want nuclear weapons all day long, and the 1096 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 1: ashes and the aftermath of this bombing, you might still 1097 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: have aspirations to do it, but it's going to be 1098 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: really hard when your citizenry is starving and you have 1099 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 1: no resources by way of an economy that would make 1100 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: a new nuclear weapons program a little challenging. So that's 1101 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 1: my quick take on it, Bob. But I hear where 1102 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 1: you're coming from, and I get it there's a lot 1103 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: of folks out there this morning and that they have 1104 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 1: been and I have been included. Was it really an 1105 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: immediate threat that needed to be dealt with? That goes 1106 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: back to the constitution, declaration of war, getting some sort 1107 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: of approval from Congress, even if it's through the War 1108 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Powers Act, which mean many like me think is not 1109 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: constitutional in and of itself because it's an unconstitutional delegation 1110 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 1: or congressional powers. But here we are, so the genies 1111 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 1: out of the bottle, as I like to say, but yeah, 1112 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: you're onto something there. I do not argue that five 1113 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: fifty six to fifty six right now if you have 1114 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 1: k City talk station, more calls are welcome. After the 1115 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 1: top of the our news than we're geting to Tom 1116 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: Zawastowski at seven point thirty what happened with the No 1117 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: More Property Tax group when they met with v Vague Ramaswami. 1118 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 1: And we'll also find out where the polling numbers show 1119 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: that No Property Tax in Ohio group is. That's coming 1120 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: up at seven thirty of who you can stick around 1121 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 1: for the whole. 1122 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 9: Hour Today's top headlines coming up at the top of 1123 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 9: the talk station. 1124 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: Seven oh six here, if do you have KARCD talk station, 1125 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 1: Bryan Thomas wishing your own a very happy Tuesday, and 1126 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 1: invitation to stick around the rest of the morning. Got time. 1127 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Between now and the bottom of the hour, we hear 1128 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 1: from Tom Zawastowski on no Property taxes. Apparently the no 1129 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Property Tax group here in the state of Ohio met 1130 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 1: with viv Ramaswami. We'll get to find out what Vivi's 1131 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 1: reaction to that is and what his proposal might be 1132 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 1: to the extent he has one. We'll also find out 1133 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: what the polling shows on elimination of the IHIO property tax. 1134 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 1: I suspect there's going to be a large campaign waged 1135 01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: against the no property tax folks. At some point it 1136 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 1: seems to me kind of silent. We've got a lot 1137 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 1: of politicians talking about how complicated it would be, and 1138 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, how high our income tax or are 1139 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: well maybe income tax or maybe sales tax might have 1140 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: to be to replace that, if it in fact has 1141 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 1: to be replaced. But are there more creative ideas or 1142 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: alternatives out there to eliminating it? I don't know. That's 1143 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: why we have Tom Zawastowski we the People Convention dot 1144 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 1: or joining us at the bottom of the hour. Fast 1145 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 1: forward one hour The Inside Scoop with bright Bart News 1146 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: today the return of London Bureau Chief Oliver Lane talking 1147 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 1: about the United Kingdom's response to the we'll call it 1148 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 1: war between Israel, United States and the Iranians and what's 1149 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: the story with the UK. Daniel Davis Deep Dive Tire 1150 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis with the war analysis. Of course, 1151 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 1: today we are going to be focusing I think exclusively 1152 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: on what's going on in Iran. And yes, I am 1153 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 1: going to press him on this concern that's been raised 1154 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 1: about our air defense interceptors. We only have a fine 1155 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 1: item out how many we have total remains to be 1156 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: We don't really know. I suppose that's some sort of 1157 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 1: military secret, and I understand the reason why that might be. 1158 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: But we are using and we and collectively we that's 1159 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: everybody who's been given the air defense interceptors. All the countries, 1160 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 1: all the military bases, and in fact all over the globe. 1161 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,439 Speaker 1: They need these and they're going through them like well, 1162 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: even more so than changes of underwear. Yeah, I changed 1163 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: mind once a day. They have been shooting thousands of 1164 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 1: these interceptors into the skies too well, knock down the 1165 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: thousands of rockets that are on is firing seemingly indiscriminately. 1166 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: And that's one of the more interesting components of this. 1167 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: What in the hell was our on thinking when it 1168 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: started dropping bombs on all those Arab countries. It's got 1169 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of new well friends made out of that, 1170 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 1: and I think maybe they just see a future down 1171 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 1: the road talking about the common of May to day earlier. 1172 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 1: If you can just get rid of the Iranian threat. 1173 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: And I realize we've got a constitution, we've got politicians 1174 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: need to chime in and all this. That's the legal component. 1175 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: But might this activity result in some semblance of peace 1176 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 1: for the entire region, allowing them to trade together and 1177 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: create a better world like post World War II Europe? 1178 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 1: A huge financial benefit that we might inure to that 1179 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: if we can just bring about some stability, not to mention, 1180 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 1: can you imagine improving everyone there's quality of life, just 1181 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: recognizing that at any given moment, some crazy terrorist organization 1182 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 1: is not going to start lobbing missiles into your backyard. Yeah, 1183 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 1: and that's a beautiful thing about this. The Iranian economy 1184 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: is going to be devastated by this. And how likely 1185 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: is it that they will be able to continue fundingly 1186 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 1: or providing missiles and weaponry to terrorist organizations if they 1187 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 1: can't even fend for themselves. You know, the supply chains 1188 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: have been radically disrupted by all of this. And I 1189 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 1: guess the other thing is Hasbala. For whatever reason, there 1190 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 1: was a ceasefire between Israel and Hasbala, and that's occasionally 1191 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: kind of been well ignored. But they started launching rockets 1192 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 1: into Israel the other day, which provided a predicate for 1193 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: Israel to just go in and start beating the living 1194 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: crap out of Hasbala. Again, they were kind of restrained 1195 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: by the prior peace arrangements, So why would you do that? 1196 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 1: A lot of people asking that question as well, but 1197 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: moving away from the legal realities and the impending war 1198 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: powers authorization vote and how that might go the case 1199 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: for cautious optimism about Trump's war with the Iran. I'll 1200 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 1: give credit to Gerard Baker, and I'll stand on the 1201 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,759 Speaker 1: shoulder of giants, as I quite regularly do, because sometimes 1202 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,160 Speaker 1: people put it a hell of a lot better than 1203 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm capable of doing on my best day. Despite assurances 1204 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 1: to the contrary, the disinclination toward high risk military action, 1205 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 1: and the disappointing record of similar actions by American endeavors, 1206 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has become the fourth consecutive Republican president to 1207 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: find himself immersed in a major conflict in the Middle least. 1208 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Only George H. W. Bush's war to expel Saddam Hussein 1209 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,480 Speaker 1: from Kuwait ninety one can be counted as a clear success, 1210 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 1: and then only because its objective was tightly circumscribed get 1211 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 1: him out of Kuwait. Ronald Reagan's effort to stabilize Lebanon 1212 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 1: in the early nineteen eighties ended in the bombing of 1213 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 1: the Beroot Marine Barrick, while his later efforts to extricate 1214 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 1: US hostages resulting the self inflicted wound of Iran Contra 1215 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: and George W. Bush's war with Iraq in two thousand 1216 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: and three cost intolerable loss of life and untold damage 1217 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:17,440 Speaker 1: to America's strategic capabilities and stature. Democratic presidents, less ambitious 1218 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 1: efforts have fared no better. Remember Bill Clinton, his standoff 1219 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 1: bombing campaign if failed to arrest the rise of al 1220 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: Qaeda and led to more or less directly to the 1221 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:31,599 Speaker 1: September eleventh attacks. Barack Obama led from behind, unleashing chaos 1222 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 1: in Libya and permitted Syria across his chemical weapons red line. 1223 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's catastrophic exit from Afghanistan, part of the Greater 1224 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 1: Middle East for these purposes, was a humiliation. Does Operation 1225 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Epic Fury have better prospects a few days into the conflict. 1226 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 1: There's no definitive answer, but a cautiously optimistic case can 1227 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 1: be made that this Middle Eastern entanglement will end better 1228 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,879 Speaker 1: than most of the others. Two questions must be answered 1229 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: pondering whether any military action of this sort is to 1230 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 1: be undertaken. One is it justified? Two is it wise? 1231 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: Critics at home had brought a sale Trump for the 1232 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 1: supposed lawlessness of this campaign. It's important to address the 1233 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 1: moral and legal case for the action first, and to 1234 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: note Iran's government has been responsible for the deaths of 1235 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 1: more than any other deaths of Americans, rather more than 1236 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 1: any other in the past fifty years. From its outset 1237 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, the Islamic Republic has made murdering 1238 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 1: Americans among its highest priorities. From the more than two 1239 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 1: hundred Marines killed by Hezbala in the nineteen eighty three 1240 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 1: de Route bombing and the six hundred or so American 1241 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,679 Speaker 1: service members killed by the Iran backed militias in Iraq, 1242 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,680 Speaker 1: to the many US citizens terrorized, captured, and killed by 1243 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Hamas and other Iranian sponsored entities in Gaza and around 1244 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:59,719 Speaker 1: the world. Tehran has repeatedly bathed in American blood. Happy 1245 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,160 Speaker 1: about that too. Under the principle of self defense, action 1246 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: taken against a regime that has killed so many of 1247 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 1: our own citizens is legitimate, not simply for the retributed 1248 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:15,560 Speaker 1: of justice, but to prevent further killings. It'll be preferable 1249 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,639 Speaker 1: if mister Trump had spent more time in the past 1250 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 1: few weeks explaining that case to the American people and 1251 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: ideally securing a political mandate from Congress for it. But 1252 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 1: the failure to do so doesn't make the cause and 1253 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:35,440 Speaker 1: illegitimate one. There's your legal quandary versus the practical reality 1254 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: of is it a good thing? Yet? If we are 1255 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 1: fully justified in finally bringing a measure of justice to 1256 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 1: a government that has caused so much suffering, is it 1257 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 1: wise to do so? Is the potential cost of a 1258 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 1: war to disarm, damage, or remove a regime proportionate to 1259 01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 1: the benefit that we can expect from taking such action. Here, 1260 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,680 Speaker 1: there's less confidence when a tyrannical, homicidal regime has been 1261 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 1: committed to killing you four decades. Regime change is self 1262 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 1: evidently the most desirable outcome. We're all familiar with the 1263 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 1: historical record. Achieving regime change remotely through airpower alone is 1264 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: an extraordinarily long probability. But even if this new round 1265 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,200 Speaker 1: of punishment for Iran fails to dislodge the regime. The 1266 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 1: further damage that we can deal to it can only 1267 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 1: weaken it further. That's the argument to just pound them 1268 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 1: into submission and completely eliminate their military power completely. Few 1269 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 1: regimes have been undermined the way Tehran has in the 1270 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,719 Speaker 1: past couple of years. It has just witnessed the awesome 1271 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 1: combination of a US Israeli intelligence and military capability, capability 1272 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 1: pulizing its supreme leader of almost four decades and much 1273 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 1: of its leadership team. It has seen the countries who 1274 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: it vowed to destroy rain down fire and destruction on 1275 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 1: its military facilities for a year. Its top military commanders 1276 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: taken out with breathtaking precision, its conventional and nuclear facilities 1277 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 1: badly damaged, Its air defense is essentially destroyed. It has 1278 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 1: watched as its close ally in Syria was overthrown in 1279 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:18,720 Speaker 1: a civil war, its proxies and Gaza and Lebanon decimated. 1280 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 1: Even if it's even its friends in Western Hemisphere Nicholas 1281 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,719 Speaker 1: Mauzurro now sits at a Brooklyn, New York City jail. 1282 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 1: Its sponsors Russia and China seem to regard their relationship 1283 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: with that as well as a one way affair. They 1284 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: get Iran's drones and oil. Iran gets tough diplomatic language 1285 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 1: for America and Israel. The Iranian people have risen up 1286 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,440 Speaker 1: against the regime which has survived only by killing thousands 1287 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:51,679 Speaker 1: of them. So if regime change doesn't come, now, what 1288 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of regime survives leaderless, impoverished, isolated, besieged, mostly disarmed. 1289 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,760 Speaker 1: Is Iran likely to be stronger after being on the 1290 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 1: receiving end of a campaign from the most technologically sophisticated 1291 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 1: and the best equipped militaries in the world. There are risks, 1292 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 1: and news of the first US casualties reminds us that 1293 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 1: the costs are dear, but for an opportunistic president, there 1294 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 1: may never be a better opportunity. And allow me to 1295 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 1: pivot over from Jard Baker's comments, the point out that's 1296 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,560 Speaker 1: the point that Donald Trump's trying to make. Listen, we 1297 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,479 Speaker 1: don't want to run your country. We don't have anything 1298 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 1: to do with it. We just want these evil, murderous 1299 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 1: thugs or a hell bent on getting a nuclear weapon 1300 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: and well wipe in Israel and other countries off the map. 1301 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,599 Speaker 1: Killing Americans, death through America, death to America. They love 1302 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 1: hating America. Might you get something better in the final analysis, 1303 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: if the people rise up, this may be the only 1304 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 1: opportunity for them to do it. Can they do it? 1305 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: That's a great question to ask the citizenry there. Oh, 1306 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,759 Speaker 1: for those Second Amendment fans out there in the world, 1307 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 1: it's a good thing to be able to be armed, 1308 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 1: is it? Can you imagine if every single running and 1309 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: protester had their own AR fifteen Huh, might things be 1310 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:10,759 Speaker 1: a little bit different? I think that's a legitimate question 1311 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 1: to ask. Tom's on the phone. Tom had a quicker 1312 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 1: mind before it gets Tom listen to lunch tomorrow at 1313 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 1: the Works Pizza Company downtown Loveland, Little old Loveling, love 1314 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 1: my little Loveling, and I appreciate Tom calling this morning. Tom, 1315 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 1: thanks for calling, Welcome to the show. 1316 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1317 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,639 Speaker 8: No problem. I just let's just assume for one second 1318 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 8: that this tax thing for no property taxes in the 1319 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:36,360 Speaker 8: state of Ohio passes, say it overwhelmingly passes. Why would 1320 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 8: anybody think for one second that they're going to pay 1321 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,160 Speaker 8: any more attention to that than they did the court, 1322 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 8: the Supreme Court when twenty years ago that what would 1323 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 8: make what would make anybody think that they would honor that? 1324 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 8: What the people said, he. 1325 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 1: You know, that's a funny and legitimate point. 1326 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 4: Tom. 1327 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,639 Speaker 1: You're right. We've been two decades into the Supreme Court 1328 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 1: saying our taxation system for school of funding is unconstitutional, 1329 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 1: and yet here we are waiting for someone who can 1330 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 1: come up with the concept of standing to make that 1331 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: assertion in a court of law, moving to enforce the 1332 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Supreme Court opinion. But apparently that's not going to happen. Tom. 1333 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 1: The only thing I can suggest this, the only thing 1334 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 1: I can suggest is as a constitutional amendment, it will 1335 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,880 Speaker 1: carry the force of of course a constitutional amendment. There 1336 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,839 Speaker 1: it is in the ohiuse constitution, property tax is illegal, 1337 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 1: which means I think you or I could refuse to 1338 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: pay it and then point to our constitution and let's 1339 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 1: see what kind of enforcement action they engage in to 1340 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 1: get it to force us to pay our property taxes. 1341 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 1: How do you think that would play out? Tom? Right, 1342 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: you and n have standing because the state made an 1343 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 1: action in effort to either I don't know if there'd 1344 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 1: be a civil prosecution or criminal prosecution, or an effort 1345 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,759 Speaker 1: to foreclose on your house for faire to pay income 1346 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 1: taxes or real estate taxes. I think that will be 1347 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 1: a vehicle to get you standing in court to fight 1348 01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,600 Speaker 1: it and raise the challenge. Wait a second, our constitution 1349 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 1: says you can't do this anymore. How are you trying 1350 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:57,439 Speaker 1: to do it? 1351 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,920 Speaker 8: Well, I don't understand. How come I don't have standing 1352 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 8: at the taxpayer's been pantaxis for the last thirty years 1353 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,679 Speaker 8: because you're not I don't. 1354 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: You are not unique. One must have a unique, particular, 1355 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 1: unique legal challenge to get standing in court. Otherwise, like 1356 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 1: any law, you're law, you're you're impacted the same as 1357 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,840 Speaker 1: everybody else in the eyes of the law. And trust me, 1358 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 1: standing is one of the more complicated elements of even 1359 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,880 Speaker 1: being a lawyer, let alone understanding how we get into court. 1360 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 1: But if you're basically on the same platform, the same 1361 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 1: standing as everybody else, then sorry, you have to deal 1362 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 1: with it. So this is the crazy thing. I mean, 1363 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,680 Speaker 1: go ahead. I've been commenting about the War Powers Act 1364 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,680 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three War Powers Act. I do believe fundamentally, 1365 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,719 Speaker 1: and I think everybody from a legal scholar perspective believes 1366 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 1: that violates Supreme Court law, which is, you can't delegate 1367 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 1: your specifically defined authority within the Constitution to another branch 1368 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 1: of government. Going back to Reagan, they gave him the 1369 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,320 Speaker 1: line item vita. The Supreme Court said, no, you can't 1370 01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 1: delegate that. That's a congression respet onsibility power the purse. Well, 1371 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,080 Speaker 1: here we are with the same kind of argument. Let's 1372 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,439 Speaker 1: see how it plays out. But nobody's challenged it. Because 1373 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 1: declaration of war is specifically the purview of Congress. You 1374 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 1: can't war powers act around that, even though it sort 1375 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 1: of allows you to do that. Seven five, fifty five KRC. 1376 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 1: But nobody has standing for that one. Let me I 1377 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 1: mentioned doctor Fred Pack. He is my daddy. He's my 1378 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 1: whole deep talk station seventy nine and fifty five KRCD 1379 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: talk Station. Happy Tuesday, the return of tom's Awastowski. You 1380 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,600 Speaker 1: can find Tom online. We the People Convention dot Org 1381 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,519 Speaker 1: podcast weekly. He's got lots of great coverage on the 1382 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 1: website there Weather, People Convention dot Org. Tom z Awastowski, 1383 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Topic 1384 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: near and dear to my listener's hearts as well as 1385 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: mind property taxes in the state of Ohio. Of course, 1386 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 1: there's a circulating petition to try to get on the 1387 01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 1: ballot a constitutional meant that would completely eradicate property taxes 1388 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,040 Speaker 1: in Ohio and I know there's a group behind that, 1389 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,400 Speaker 1: and apparently that group has met with viveg. Gromis. I mean, 1390 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 1: you're here to explain that, but also this new poll 1391 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,720 Speaker 1: that you have done. Welcome back, Tom. It's always a 1392 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on the morning show. 1393 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 4: Well, great to be with you, Brian, to talk about 1394 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,080 Speaker 4: you know, really the most talked about topic in Ohio. 1395 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,080 Speaker 4: And uh, you know, there's a lot to unpack here, 1396 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 4: but I was very glad I think you probably were 1397 01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,320 Speaker 4: as well to see the Bake meet with the Axe 1398 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 4: Ohio tax people, with Brian Nassey and Leonard and those guys. Uh, 1399 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,639 Speaker 4: you know, they've put out a statement and I don't 1400 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,439 Speaker 4: think they're being went all that well, but at least 1401 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 4: it shows that the theke is interested in the topic, 1402 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 4: is listening, you know, to people to try to figure out, okay, 1403 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 4: how do we address what is really an egregious, you know, 1404 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 4: situation where people have been taxed out of their homes 1405 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 4: and so yeah, I was happy to see they get together. 1406 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,960 Speaker 1: Well, and I think you would be a fool to 1407 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 1: ignore that issue given that it is, you know, a 1408 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 1: really a dominant topic here. Ohio and got a lot 1409 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 1: of seniors struggling to stay in their homes. We got 1410 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,960 Speaker 1: whacked not that long ago by a really huge increase 1411 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 1: in property taxes brought about by the increase in real 1412 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 1: estate values. I mean, something's got to give here. So 1413 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: he wants to talk about it. But did he say 1414 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 1: he's in favor of eliminating it by way of a 1415 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 1: constitutional amendment. I can't imagine he went that far yet. 1416 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I I, you know, I want to share 1417 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,720 Speaker 4: with your listeners something that I have not made public previously. 1418 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 4: And the reason why the Bank you know, is not 1419 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 4: you know, willing to commit I don't think anybody is 1420 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,759 Speaker 4: to total repeal of property taxes is because the voters 1421 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 4: just don't support it. You know, couldn't do some context. 1422 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 4: Literally nine months ago, I said, geez, I really want 1423 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 4: to try to help the repeal property tax effort. You know, 1424 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,680 Speaker 4: Brian and Leonard of these guys have been friends of mine, 1425 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 4: they're Grassrows people, They're sincere in their efforts. And so 1426 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 4: I and some other patriots went out and tried to 1427 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:03,360 Speaker 4: raise money to get this on the ballot, because, as 1428 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 4: you know, it costs millions of dollars to collect these signatures. 1429 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm one of the few people alive in 1430 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,640 Speaker 4: the state who's actually passed a constitutional amendment. I was 1431 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 4: the president of the Ohio Liberty Coalition back in twenty 1432 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,600 Speaker 4: eleven when we passed the Ohio Healthcare Amendment, and I 1433 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,320 Speaker 4: know some things from that, and I've learned some hard lessons. 1434 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 4: So when we went out to look for money, Brian, well, 1435 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,800 Speaker 4: you know, no one's going to give you millions of 1436 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 4: dollars if they don't think you've got a good chance 1437 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 4: of succeeding. So last December, we paid for a statewide survey, 1438 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 4: and I mean, we did a really good job of 1439 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 4: looking at every county individually to see will people support 1440 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 4: a complete repeal of property taxes? And the answer is 1441 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 4: absolutely not. The number came back at only seventeen point 1442 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 4: two percent of people in Ohio want a full repeal, 1443 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 4: but sixty nine percent want reform. And that had caused 1444 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,280 Speaker 4: me to have to pivot and try to talk to 1445 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 4: the Act of File Tax people and say, guys, you 1446 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 4: know this is not going to fly. 1447 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,679 Speaker 1: We need something else, something else, And therein lies the challenge, 1448 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 1: what something else is going to provide us relief? And 1449 01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,640 Speaker 1: yet allow, of course, schools and parks and police and 1450 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 1: fire to continue to be funded. Let's first start with 1451 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,679 Speaker 1: the with the poll here, I see that you pulled 1452 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,960 Speaker 1: twelve hundred and forty seven registered voters. I saw the 1453 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,639 Speaker 1: margin of error described as plus or minus two point 1454 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 1: eight percent, which is a pretty good margin of error. 1455 01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,600 Speaker 1: Who did you hire to do the polling? Because trust me, 1456 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,680 Speaker 1: you're not you understand this. I think everybody in my 1457 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,920 Speaker 1: listening audience has a jaundiced eye of skepticism when it 1458 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 1: comes to any poll. We've all been burned by believing poles. 1459 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,680 Speaker 1: So where are we with just the overall polling? Who 1460 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 1: did it and what specifics do you have on that? 1461 01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,639 Speaker 4: Well? See, this is really important because those listeners who 1462 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,280 Speaker 4: are familiar with me personally and with the WEA That 1463 01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 4: People convention, know that years ago we realized all the 1464 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,679 Speaker 4: polls were propaganda, and we started doing our own polling, 1465 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,639 Speaker 4: and we were the only we were literally the only person, 1466 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 4: I guess we were one of two people who actually 1467 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:21,000 Speaker 4: called President Trump winning Ohio in twenty sixteen with our 1468 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,360 Speaker 4: poll when they were telling us that Hillary Clinton was 1469 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,200 Speaker 4: going to win by sixteen percent, and we said Trump's 1470 01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,320 Speaker 4: going to win by eight point four, and he won 1471 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 4: by eight point two. So it is. It has always 1472 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,040 Speaker 4: been our policy, the Lead People Convention to do our 1473 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,200 Speaker 4: own polling. Now you know, things have changed since then. 1474 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 4: We used to just use our own equipment and do 1475 01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,040 Speaker 4: you know phone calls to do the polling, and now 1476 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:43,680 Speaker 4: you got to do a lot more. So we had 1477 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,800 Speaker 4: to hire, you know, some professional polling companies to help us. 1478 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 4: But this is critical. We got to tell ourselves the truth. 1479 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 4: Tom Swatowski is not going to you know, make decisions 1480 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,240 Speaker 4: that in fact, you know, literally millions of Ohioans based 1481 01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 4: on some phony poll and so so I'm very confident 1482 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,040 Speaker 4: in this poll because I helped with the questions and 1483 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 4: I help with the methodology, and we know we got 1484 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 4: what we paid for, and believe me, it costs a 1485 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:09,559 Speaker 4: lot of money. 1486 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,040 Speaker 1: All Right, we're going to dive in some of the 1487 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,280 Speaker 1: polling results which are really interesting. Yes, a lot of 1488 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 1: people support reforming. They don't necessarily approve the abolishment, which 1489 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,400 Speaker 1: Tom just pointed out. Only seventeen point two percent of 1490 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 1: those polled up call for the total abolishment. But that 1491 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that there isn't a desire for some change here. 1492 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,599 Speaker 1: Let's dive into more details. Tom Zawastowski, We the People 1493 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 1: Convention dot org will bring see the talk station if 1494 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,080 Speaker 1: you'bout care c DE talk station by the time. So 1495 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,760 Speaker 1: Tom's Awastowski for We the People Convention dot org get 1496 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,400 Speaker 1: ready to dive on in the property tax reform in Ohio. 1497 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: What voters believe, what the data shows statewide survey. Tom's 1498 01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,760 Speaker 1: got great confidence in it. He's got prior polls that 1499 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 1: he has done to stand on proving that he has 1500 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,519 Speaker 1: been very accurate. Now pivoting over before we dive on 1501 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 1: to some of the results, which I find very interesting. Tom, 1502 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 1: Now did you pull only property owners? Did you get 1503 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 1: kick out of the polling? I know renters pay property tax, 1504 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,200 Speaker 1: they just don't generally realize it that it does get 1505 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,360 Speaker 1: passed on in the monthly rent build the property tax, 1506 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 1: so the building goes up. Excuse me, you won't know 1507 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 1: who's going to pay it. But was there any differentiation 1508 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,479 Speaker 1: in the polling between real property owners and renters? 1509 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, there really was. And again we were careful to 1510 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,120 Speaker 4: make sure we really dug down and got representation from 1511 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 4: all voters. Because if you're going to do a const 1512 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,799 Speaker 4: social amendment, now you got to pass on the ballot, 1513 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,719 Speaker 4: and there is a difference. So obviously people that rent 1514 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,479 Speaker 4: don't most of them don't get that connection that their 1515 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 4: rent is tied to property taxes. I want to point 1516 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 4: out a real interesting statistic though, Well we said, geez, 1517 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:43,400 Speaker 4: only seventeen point two percent are for total elimination. There's 1518 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 4: another statistic where, you know, forty two point eight percent 1519 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 4: of the people polled of the voters said that they 1520 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 4: support abolishing property taxes for owner occupied homes only. That's 1521 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,599 Speaker 4: a pretty interesting statistic. And because a lot of people 1522 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,160 Speaker 4: was I think you've heard from your own listeners. They 1523 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 4: don't want Walmart and Costco and and and you know, 1524 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 4: big businesses to get property tax release. They think, you know, 1525 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 4: it should be for property owners. And so that forty 1526 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,800 Speaker 4: two point eight percent number, I think is something that 1527 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,799 Speaker 4: is being reflected in Like a state Rep. Mark Heiner 1528 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,080 Speaker 4: has just he's in District's ninety eight. He just put 1529 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 4: up an amendment to uh, you know, to abolish property 1530 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 4: taxes for all homeowners. The problem is brand that's like 1531 01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:34,040 Speaker 4: a ten billion dollar hit. Now, property tax revenue in 1532 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,759 Speaker 4: Ohio is like twenty two to twenty four billion dollars 1533 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 4: ten percent. Ten billion is like a forty five percent cut. 1534 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 4: That's pretty tough hit to handle. I think that, you know, 1535 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 4: initially we need to get to meet a sweet spot. 1536 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,719 Speaker 4: Is like a twenty to twenty two percent cut initially, 1537 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 4: And and so I don't think you can repeal private 1538 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,400 Speaker 4: sectors for all property owners, but maybe for people a 1539 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 4: sixty five or older, or people who maybe have paid 1540 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,679 Speaker 4: private taxes for twenty five years and by got maybe 1541 01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 4: you should actually own their home after twenty five years. 1542 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,120 Speaker 4: You know, there's got to be some other way to 1543 01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,360 Speaker 4: do this. And I'm talking to the Beck and Rob 1544 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,880 Speaker 4: mccalling and other legislators about, you know, what's the best 1545 01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,080 Speaker 4: way to go forward that we can pass right but 1546 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,680 Speaker 4: also does the things we need to do, which is 1547 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 4: reform our tax situation in Ohio. 1548 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So those are some of the possible ways we 1549 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 1: can go rather than eliminate completely, those are some of 1550 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,439 Speaker 1: the potential areas we could curve back or cut back 1551 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,760 Speaker 1: the property tax for at least some folks. But that 1552 01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,599 Speaker 1: and actually that that suggests that the problem that I've 1553 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 1: been facing with the complete elimination of it is what 1554 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,160 Speaker 1: will they do in response? I mean, I almost I 1555 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 1: almost want it to happen, just to see what our 1556 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 1: elected officials are faced with. I mean, talk about deer 1557 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 1: in the headlights, they'd be freaking out and I relish that. 1558 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,760 Speaker 1: But as this, as the polling reflects, the reason that 1559 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 1: the vast majority people don't want to live and they 1560 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 1: completely is the uncertainty surrounding the replacement revenue. We don't 1561 01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,880 Speaker 1: know what's going to be. What will happen when that 1562 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,559 Speaker 1: deer in the headlight stops and they start start acting 1563 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,920 Speaker 1: on the elimination of property taxes, So owner occupied homes only, 1564 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,840 Speaker 1: that's one option. Let's see. Ability to pay is central 1565 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,599 Speaker 1: Ohioan sense of fairness. Eighty three point three percent believe 1566 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,160 Speaker 1: recurring property taxes, if they exist, should reflect income and 1567 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,720 Speaker 1: ability to pay. Sounds to me like we're getting into 1568 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,040 Speaker 1: that class warfare kind of thing. 1569 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 2: Tom for that, that stat stocked me. I was like, whoa, 1570 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 2: I don't like that at all. 1571 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,560 Speaker 4: That's kind of on the socialism kind of path. And 1572 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, no, no, no, But it shows you though, 1573 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 4: the frustration is so high that people will look to 1574 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,880 Speaker 4: things like that and we've got to fix it. I mean, 1575 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,760 Speaker 4: you gotta love Have you heard Amy actors of proposal. 1576 01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, I haven't. 1577 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,840 Speaker 4: Oh you got you got to hear that. You're gonna 1578 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,040 Speaker 4: love this this real quick she spoke. She was speaking 1579 01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,200 Speaker 4: at the Columbus Union Hall a couple of weeks ago, 1580 01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,000 Speaker 4: and she said the former state health director from Columbus 1581 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 4: suggested that one way to lower local property taxes would 1582 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,479 Speaker 4: be to increase state funding to schools, police and fire 1583 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,760 Speaker 4: departments and other public bodies. So they don't need new 1584 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 4: property taxes. So let's just take the money out of 1585 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 4: your other pocket and give the schools and police all 1586 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,760 Speaker 4: the money they want. So you don't even get to 1587 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,960 Speaker 4: vote on it. There you go. So this is the 1588 01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:24,479 Speaker 4: problem Tom. 1589 01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:29,760 Speaker 1: On that proposal that would require the elected officials and 1590 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,880 Speaker 1: Columbus to determine what any given school district is entitled 1591 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,280 Speaker 1: to out of the pool of money that they have. 1592 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh yeah, we want that right. 1593 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:38,879 Speaker 6: So here here's talking. 1594 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,599 Speaker 1: About increasing union power or something I would have made. 1595 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,840 Speaker 4: Well, isn't what amy actor is about? Point she's running? Okay, 1596 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:49,840 Speaker 4: So here's the thing. The actual tax the ACTU Ohio 1597 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,160 Speaker 4: tax people deserve a lot of credit because the basis 1598 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:57,439 Speaker 4: of their repeal amendment is we are just over tax 1599 01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:02,439 Speaker 4: at Ohio. Our government at all levels is costing more 1600 01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,840 Speaker 4: than we can afford. So the property tax issue, Brian, 1601 01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:10,640 Speaker 4: is not just about property taxes. It's about an instrument 1602 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 4: to reform all of our government. We need to give 1603 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,240 Speaker 4: them a haircut. And here's the memo to the legislature, 1604 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:22,519 Speaker 4: to the police Department's levers. We're going to cut your spending. 1605 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,000 Speaker 4: You're going to reform, you're going to get rid of 1606 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,960 Speaker 4: duplicate programs, you're going to be more efficient, you're going 1607 01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,160 Speaker 4: to implement AI And if you think about it, that 1608 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 4: all dovetails with the veak Ramaswami is talking about if 1609 01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:40,200 Speaker 4: he becomes governor, he wants to reform our state. So 1610 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:41,960 Speaker 4: we we're like Florida. 1611 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:42,479 Speaker 6: We're ready. 1612 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,479 Speaker 1: I wrote down Florida while you were talking, Tom, because 1613 01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,560 Speaker 1: I wrote down Ramaswamy. He wants to get rid of 1614 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,320 Speaker 1: the income tax here. Now that complicates matters if you 1615 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,080 Speaker 1: want to get rid of the property taxes, because these 1616 01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,160 Speaker 1: are two sources of revenue for the state. Yet, and 1617 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,200 Speaker 1: we'll let you come back and talk about this. How 1618 01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,320 Speaker 1: is it that Florida has been able to do all 1619 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,000 Speaker 1: this and has an economy that is booming how is 1620 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,280 Speaker 1: it that they're moving in the direction of eliminating property 1621 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 1: taxes along these lines although there are qualifications for their 1622 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,719 Speaker 1: elimination of property taxes when they already don't tax income. 1623 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 1: This is strange. Can we mirror Florida? We'll bring Tom 1624 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 1: back for one more as a couple of the talk 1625 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:20,080 Speaker 1: station seven fifty fift about KRCD talk station. We're talking 1626 01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 1: with Tom z Awastowski from We the People Convention dot 1627 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,920 Speaker 1: org about the elimination of property taxes and how we 1628 01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,719 Speaker 1: might go about doing it now. His well conducted survey 1629 01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,679 Speaker 1: reflects that, you know, a lot of people are tuned 1630 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,800 Speaker 1: into the reality of eliminating it is going to create 1631 01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,839 Speaker 1: some major uncertainty or about what's going to replace the revenue. 1632 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,200 Speaker 1: So only seventeen point two percent of the folks say 1633 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,559 Speaker 1: absolutely abolished property taxes, but that doesn't mean they don't 1634 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,360 Speaker 1: all want it. So sixty nine percent of voters support 1635 01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,800 Speaker 1: reforming the current property tax system. And that's some of 1636 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,439 Speaker 1: the areas we've been talking about with Tom this morning. 1637 01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:50,200 Speaker 1: If we don't eliminate it completely, what can we do 1638 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,880 Speaker 1: by giving relief? And of course you were talking you 1639 01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,080 Speaker 1: mentioned Florida, which I had written down in advance to 1640 01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:59,320 Speaker 1: ask you about Florida has a different way of life. 1641 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:04,479 Speaker 1: They don't have see here, they don't have income tax 1642 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,240 Speaker 1: except corporate income tax I think is five point five percent. 1643 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:13,439 Speaker 1: Their state sales tax is six percent. And they're moving 1644 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:17,080 Speaker 1: forward with a proposal to eliminate property taxes a homestead 1645 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:20,360 Speaker 1: property exemption. That's not second homes or vacation rentals or 1646 01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,760 Speaker 1: commercial property. But if you have your single primary residence home, 1647 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:29,080 Speaker 1: it will be eliminated, with the exception of school taxes 1648 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,400 Speaker 1: they're supposed to have, Like the school taxes will still 1649 01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 1: come out of like I guess the property tax built. 1650 01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,280 Speaker 1: But it's a long way toward reform. Tom, how come 1651 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:37,280 Speaker 1: we can't be Florida. 1652 01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 4: Well, I think here's the best way. Stop spending. Yeah, 1653 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,519 Speaker 4: I love these people who keeps talking about, oh, we 1654 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,880 Speaker 4: got to replace the revenue. That's the whole point there, 1655 01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,320 Speaker 4: you got to replace it. The whole point is to 1656 01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:57,040 Speaker 4: cut your spending, to reform government. I just can't believe it. 1657 01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,240 Speaker 4: But it's a culture. Remember, you know, you go into 1658 01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,320 Speaker 4: off and I don't care if your township trustee or 1659 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,680 Speaker 4: county commissioner, you know, running a police department. What is 1660 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,760 Speaker 4: your culture more and more and more. We need this, 1661 01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 4: we need that, give us more money. Let's put another 1662 01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,599 Speaker 4: levee on about it. We have to change that culture. 1663 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 4: And that's what they're doing in Florida, and that's what 1664 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:20,240 Speaker 4: I think the Veke is going to want to do 1665 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,799 Speaker 4: here in Ohio. But I've said that the Theke listen, 1666 01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,880 Speaker 4: they're not going to change. We learn from Doge. What 1667 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 4: we learned from Doge. Oh, here's all this fraud and 1668 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,040 Speaker 4: abuse and things you should cut and they cut nothing 1669 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:37,360 Speaker 4: because if they won't cut unless they have to. So 1670 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,120 Speaker 4: this property tax bill has to be balanced. We've got 1671 01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:45,280 Speaker 4: to cut enough so that they have to reform right 1672 01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,200 Speaker 4: and get the message. But also we have to give 1673 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,640 Speaker 4: relief to the people who got thirty percent increases in 1674 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,439 Speaker 4: their property taxes. They got to get made whole. We 1675 01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,479 Speaker 4: got to give some of that back. So we're talking 1676 01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,439 Speaker 4: about it, you know. And the other part of it is, Brian, 1677 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,800 Speaker 4: you know this, I don't care if we cut all 1678 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,160 Speaker 4: the property taxes. Are we cut a dollar of property taxes, 1679 01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,439 Speaker 4: the interests, the unions particularly are going to spend thirty 1680 01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:16,240 Speaker 4: million dollars to defeat it at the no member election. 1681 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,720 Speaker 4: So we are raising money, and I will know this week, 1682 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,439 Speaker 4: this not this week, this month, we will know if 1683 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,000 Speaker 4: we can raise the money we need to be able 1684 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,880 Speaker 4: to pass it. If we do get the legislature to 1685 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 4: act on something that does cut property taxes and reform 1686 01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,120 Speaker 4: government at all levels, that's my goal, that's what I'm 1687 01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,880 Speaker 4: working on. I asked your listeners for their prayers that 1688 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,560 Speaker 4: we get this funding. We've been working really hard on 1689 01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,519 Speaker 4: it for like ten months and we think we're there. 1690 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,040 Speaker 4: But without the funding, the legislatures is not going to 1691 01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,040 Speaker 4: put anything on the ballot that cha't be passed. And 1692 01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,439 Speaker 4: you've got to have money to fight the left when 1693 01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,479 Speaker 4: they come out and demonize everything you're doing. 1694 01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:00,599 Speaker 1: And it's interesting to me that that adds money. Money 1695 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:05,520 Speaker 1: equals ads money equals propaganda, that people are so incapable 1696 01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,439 Speaker 1: of thinking for themselves and ignoring the ads and just 1697 01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,720 Speaker 1: looking at like, for example, your survey. If you are 1698 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,840 Speaker 1: asked a simple question like do you think we need 1699 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,960 Speaker 1: property tax reform in Ohio, and they say yes overwhelmingly, 1700 01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,600 Speaker 1: and when you point to the loss of revenue and that, 1701 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,599 Speaker 1: no one just immediately says, well, there's too many services 1702 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:24,320 Speaker 1: coming out of Ohio. They're trying to do too many 1703 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,120 Speaker 1: things with too little money. Maybe we need to start 1704 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,560 Speaker 1: cutting government. And how appealing that would sound if you 1705 01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,519 Speaker 1: think about it logically and reasonably. Where does the problem 1706 01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,680 Speaker 1: come from? The problem comes from a bloated government that 1707 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:36,840 Speaker 1: spends too much and therefore needs to consume more of 1708 01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 1: our dollars. That's period and the story, and that transcends 1709 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. We could point to the federal 1710 01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,200 Speaker 1: government on that level, couldn't we Tom going back to Dog. 1711 01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:49,360 Speaker 4: Well, absolutely, Yeah's and you're hitting it right on the head. 1712 01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:53,920 Speaker 4: It's unfortunate that are these people who want to keep 1713 01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:58,240 Speaker 4: raising our taxes use our tax money to propagandas about 1714 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,880 Speaker 4: Todd and here we are, as taxpayers trying to protect 1715 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,880 Speaker 4: our own interests, and we've got to go out and 1716 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,479 Speaker 4: raise millions at power so we can defend ourselves. There's 1717 01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,639 Speaker 4: something wrong with that whole balance of power. We shouldn't 1718 01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,920 Speaker 4: have to do that, but that's what we have to do, 1719 01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,400 Speaker 4: and that's what we're trying to do. I have a 1720 01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:16,759 Speaker 4: lot of hope. I think you're going to see something 1721 01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,920 Speaker 4: come out in the next month or so that it's 1722 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,479 Speaker 4: going to be very, very good for taxpayers that's going 1723 01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 4: to cut their their expenses, and it's also going to 1724 01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,280 Speaker 4: send a message to every government agency at every level 1725 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,280 Speaker 4: you got to cut your budget by like ten, fifteen 1726 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,120 Speaker 4: or twenty percent because we ain't going to fund you anymore. 1727 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,360 Speaker 1: Well, I know, screaming at the radio, going fraud, fraud, 1728 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,960 Speaker 1: wasted abuse, fraud, wasted abuse and government programs. Yeah, we 1729 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,320 Speaker 1: can address that and probably you know, deal with the 1730 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,680 Speaker 1: ledged hole that's going to be left here just by 1731 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,240 Speaker 1: getting rid of the fraud wasted abuse, which is that 1732 01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,000 Speaker 1: AI you referred to earlier as a great mechanism to 1733 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,360 Speaker 1: maybe doing that on a going forward basis, We the 1734 01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,400 Speaker 1: People Convention dot orgs or dot org, right, we the 1735 01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,800 Speaker 1: People contention dot org. Tom z Awastowski, are you going 1736 01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,000 Speaker 1: to post the poll on your website? 1737 01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,760 Speaker 4: I will. I have not yet. This is the first 1738 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,360 Speaker 4: time I've ever said it, you know, put it out 1739 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,840 Speaker 4: there for the public. So thank you for this opportunity. 1740 01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:09,439 Speaker 1: It's an honor. 1741 01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,600 Speaker 4: I will probably put it out in an email to 1742 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,880 Speaker 4: the state, you know, to my email list as we 1743 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,519 Speaker 4: go forward. But yeah, let's let's just keep moving in 1744 01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,680 Speaker 4: the right direction. We hear the people. That's clear. We've 1745 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,479 Speaker 4: got to do something, and I'm committed to making sure 1746 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,160 Speaker 4: we do do something and something that's good. 1747 01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:28,120 Speaker 1: Well, I apperc it was sick about gares see de 1748 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,559 Speaker 1: talk station. It's Tuesday, it is time. I always look 1749 01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,439 Speaker 1: forward to this, the inside scoop of bright Bart News, 1750 01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,240 Speaker 1: and I always start out the segment by saying, book 1751 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,439 Speaker 1: mark the page bright Bart b R E I T 1752 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,519 Speaker 1: B A r T dot com. You'm glad you did 1753 01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,200 Speaker 1: because you'll get to read from uh well, things that 1754 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,439 Speaker 1: London Bureau Chief Oliver Laine writes about, among others, at 1755 01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,840 Speaker 1: breit Bart. Welcome back, Oliver Lane, London bureau Chief at 1756 01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:50,280 Speaker 1: breit Bart. Is a pleasure to have you back on 1757 01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:51,000 Speaker 1: the show, my friend. 1758 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,479 Speaker 10: Well, thank you for inviting me. It's a great pleasure. 1759 01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:57,360 Speaker 1: Indeed, well, I appreciate it because yesterday Prime Minister Keir 1760 01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,439 Speaker 1: Starmer told are set out loud he doesn't believe in 1761 01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,519 Speaker 1: regime change from the Skies, defending his decision to not 1762 01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,280 Speaker 1: allow the United States to use British bases for the 1763 01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,920 Speaker 1: initial wave of attacks on Iran. Then he kind of 1764 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,120 Speaker 1: pivoted and said, well, US can have access to the 1765 01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 1: basis for defensive strikes in response to Iran's retaliatory tax. 1766 01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,320 Speaker 1: So I guess as a quick point of order, I 1767 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:23,360 Speaker 1: got to ask, is someone keeping track and pointing out 1768 01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 1: is there a fundamental difference between offensive and defensive flights? 1769 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,920 Speaker 1: Are you keeping track of what airplane is being flown 1770 01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,200 Speaker 1: out of any given UK air base that it is? Oh, 1771 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,759 Speaker 1: that's a defensive plane versus an offensive plane and sortie 1772 01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,320 Speaker 1: it just seemed like, I don't know, maybe not even 1773 01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,080 Speaker 1: a distinction. That's why we have you, Oliver Lane. What's 1774 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,080 Speaker 1: going on here with the United Kingdom's response to this 1775 01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:45,160 Speaker 1: military activity? 1776 01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:49,639 Speaker 10: Indeed, yeah, it's a very fine line there, and sacre 1777 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,280 Speaker 10: starm of the Prime Minister has not been a tall 1778 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,360 Speaker 10: clear spell what exactly he meant about this? Because, of course, 1779 01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,880 Speaker 10: if you're talking about really purely defensive, that means putting 1780 01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,960 Speaker 10: up what air into sception fighters, which are air to 1781 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:06,040 Speaker 10: weear missiles. They're up there to take down drones, uranium fighters, missiles. 1782 01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,760 Speaker 10: But as we know, not just from this conflict, but 1783 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:14,479 Speaker 10: from every other conflict in modern history, Ukraine, etc. What's 1784 01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:18,720 Speaker 10: the most effective, fool proof and cost effective way to 1785 01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,760 Speaker 10: stop enemy missiles? Well, it's to take them out before 1786 01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,120 Speaker 10: they launch. You take them out on the ground. 1787 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:24,640 Speaker 1: True, So that is that. 1788 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:29,240 Speaker 10: Included in this deal? I suspect not, because that's essentially 1789 01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,240 Speaker 10: what this whole package of strikes the President Trump and 1790 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,840 Speaker 10: Israel launch over the weekend is about. It's about hitting 1791 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,400 Speaker 10: these things on the ground before then get in the air. 1792 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:42,000 Speaker 10: And when you open there. You mentioned about Kissed Arma, 1793 01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:46,800 Speaker 10: our wonderful left wing globalist prime minister over here in 1794 01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:50,559 Speaker 10: the UK, and these comments he made about what Trump 1795 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:55,200 Speaker 10: was doing and saying that the UK doesn't believe in 1796 01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:58,560 Speaker 10: regime change from the air, and it was layering on 1797 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:03,320 Speaker 10: the criticism and it's it's really only barely below the surface, 1798 01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,880 Speaker 10: saying that the UK can't take military action that it 1799 01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,880 Speaker 10: considers unlawful. What does that imply He believes that the 1800 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,080 Speaker 10: US action is unlawful, It can't take action that's not 1801 01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,760 Speaker 10: thought through, doesn't have a conclusion in mind. What does 1802 01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,400 Speaker 10: that imply, Well, it implies he believes that President Trump 1803 01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 10: is flying blind on this. He's just launched the attack 1804 01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,519 Speaker 10: and has no endgame in mind. So yeah, this is 1805 01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 10: I don't know if you want to call it insulting. 1806 01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:30,360 Speaker 10: I don't know if you respect kiss Starmer enough to 1807 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,920 Speaker 10: think anything. He says could possibly be insulting, but he's 1808 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:37,320 Speaker 10: certainly trying to make clear what he thinks about Trump, 1809 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:38,400 Speaker 10: and it ain't a lot. 1810 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,880 Speaker 1: Well, there's sort of half step, half measure using him 1811 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,000 Speaker 1: for defensive purposes. That sounds to me like he's trying 1812 01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,240 Speaker 1: to have his cake and eat it too. Well, you know, 1813 01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:48,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna let use him for some things which maybe 1814 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:50,880 Speaker 1: appease the you know, the US government, or maybe is 1815 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:52,880 Speaker 1: or anybody else who's in favor of the conflict. But 1816 01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,240 Speaker 1: there have been many suggestions, and I'm not bringing it 1817 01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,599 Speaker 1: up as a unique thought myself, but that it may 1818 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:01,720 Speaker 1: be the kure Starmer struggling with the fact that you 1819 01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:05,320 Speaker 1: have a very sizeable Muslim population. We know that very well. 1820 01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,479 Speaker 1: It's been building for years and years and years. I 1821 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 1: mean how Elvis Costello wrote about it back in the 1822 01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:15,280 Speaker 1: day London is full of Arabs, remember that from the 1823 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,840 Speaker 1: song from Elvis Costello back in the day. Is that 1824 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,800 Speaker 1: the problem is he afraid of his the residents of 1825 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,360 Speaker 1: the UK that have a very substantial presidence in the 1826 01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,680 Speaker 1: Muslim community and probably aren't in favor of what's going on. 1827 01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,200 Speaker 10: Thank you for quoting on this, Costello to I mean that, 1828 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:33,680 Speaker 10: but a big smile on my face. You and I 1829 01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:38,559 Speaker 10: don't need to make these points about is Starma trying 1830 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:42,200 Speaker 10: to appease a particular voting block in the UK. We 1831 01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,840 Speaker 10: don't need to do that, because President Trump did it 1832 01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 10: for us this morning. He went out there and said 1833 01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,799 Speaker 10: it pretty clearly when he was spoke to a British newspaper, 1834 01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:54,280 Speaker 10: the Sun, and said that he was very disappointed with 1835 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,920 Speaker 10: the with Starma and the UK. And actually, if you 1836 01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:58,800 Speaker 10: look at the language that he used, I'm going to 1837 01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 10: read this quote out here in a second, and I 1838 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,839 Speaker 10: think it's pretty clear that President Trump is actually shocked 1839 01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:09,640 Speaker 10: and upset by the degree to which Britain, which is 1840 01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,800 Speaker 10: a country he clearly loves, has let him down. Now 1841 01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,519 Speaker 10: that this is a tragedy, because it's not really Britain 1842 01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:17,559 Speaker 10: that's leading him down at all. It's a kiss starmer, 1843 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,240 Speaker 10: a prime minister who, by the way, is the least 1844 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:24,000 Speaker 10: popular British prime minister in the history of polling, in 1845 01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:27,480 Speaker 10: the history of all data. He has the lowest opinionatium 1846 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:29,920 Speaker 10: any leader ever. So it's not like the British people 1847 01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,120 Speaker 10: are standing four square behind him on this decision. But 1848 01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:33,799 Speaker 10: I'm going to read this quite out to you. President 1849 01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:37,439 Speaker 10: Trump said, and I quote, I never thought i'd see that. 1850 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,720 Speaker 10: I never thought i'd see that from the UK. We 1851 01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,960 Speaker 10: love the UK, And he said about Britain, it's also 1852 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,719 Speaker 10: not such a recognizable country. London is a very different 1853 01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,599 Speaker 10: place with a terrible mayor. You have a terrible mayor there, 1854 01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,720 Speaker 10: some terrible people, but it's a very different place. And 1855 01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:56,719 Speaker 10: this is when he was being asked by the newspaper 1856 01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,800 Speaker 10: whether he thought that, as you said at the beginning 1857 01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:02,680 Speaker 10: of this segment, you know, Starmer is essentially having to 1858 01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,320 Speaker 10: appease a particular block of voters. And I think that's 1859 01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,920 Speaker 10: absolutely right. So what I want to mention here is 1860 01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:12,000 Speaker 10: we had a very important special election here just last 1861 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,280 Speaker 10: week Thursday last week, and this was in a what 1862 01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,559 Speaker 10: you would call a true labor heartland, a safe seat. 1863 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,240 Speaker 10: The Labor Party has been active in British politics for 1864 01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,920 Speaker 10: about one hundred years, about a century early nineteen twenties. 1865 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,720 Speaker 10: This seat has been Labor for one hundred years. It 1866 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,840 Speaker 10: has won every single election there for a century. So 1867 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,400 Speaker 10: if they can't win there, they cannot win anywhere. That's 1868 01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,799 Speaker 10: the point I'm trying to make. And guess what special 1869 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:42,639 Speaker 10: election last week Labor came third. This is our left 1870 01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:46,760 Speaker 10: wing party smashed into third place, and by who, by 1871 01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:53,200 Speaker 10: a pro Gaza, pro Palestine sectarian interest party who came first. 1872 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:54,920 Speaker 4: So wow. 1873 01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:58,560 Speaker 10: The situation we're in now is that for decades the 1874 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:03,240 Speaker 10: Labor Party has been the main political beneficiary of Britain's 1875 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,120 Speaker 10: policy of mass migration. People have come here in great numbers. 1876 01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,800 Speaker 10: They've been converted into paper citizens, they've been given their passports. 1877 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,360 Speaker 10: Then they've got the vote to run, the right to 1878 01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,920 Speaker 10: vote and who g only speaking have they voted for? 1879 01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,080 Speaker 10: All the data we have shows they have voted for 1880 01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:21,320 Speaker 10: the Labor Party. Labor has controlled those votes, and particularly 1881 01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:25,000 Speaker 10: in Muslim communities, it's block voting, which by the way, 1882 01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 10: is illegal. But that's just one of those things that 1883 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,360 Speaker 10: we're too polite as Britain's to talk about. And it 1884 01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,439 Speaker 10: goes on and on. But now we're in a position, 1885 01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,760 Speaker 10: as we have seen from last week, in this new 1886 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:38,400 Speaker 10: era of British politics, of secretarian British politics, those migrant 1887 01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,720 Speaker 10: communities are becoming more I guess, confident of themselves. They 1888 01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,600 Speaker 10: know what they want and they're no longer content to 1889 01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,920 Speaker 10: be controlled by Labor. They want their own party, which 1890 01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,960 Speaker 10: serves their own narrow interests, and it seems that means 1891 01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,920 Speaker 10: the party that is willing to go furthest on being 1892 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,840 Speaker 10: pro Gaza, pro Palestine, as it was this case one 1893 01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:01,400 Speaker 10: week ago, that's the party that wins. So when President 1894 01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:03,360 Speaker 10: Trump is looking at from the situation from the outside 1895 01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:07,360 Speaker 10: and he's going, well, Britain's our greatest ally. We love Britain. 1896 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,280 Speaker 10: I personally love Britain. Britain's always been on our side. 1897 01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:15,519 Speaker 10: Why is Britain suddenly now not interested in joining preemptive 1898 01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,760 Speaker 10: strikes in the Middle East? What conclusion can he draw 1899 01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:21,479 Speaker 10: that he's afraid of his own voters. 1900 01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,920 Speaker 1: Wow, you're providing a nice cautionary tale for we here 1901 01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,960 Speaker 1: in the United States of America who were facing a 1902 01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:32,280 Speaker 1: similar being overrun by immigrants from foreign lands which you 1903 01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,920 Speaker 1: do not share American values clearly, right? 1904 01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,040 Speaker 10: May I say something at this stage, my assisting at 1905 01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,760 Speaker 10: the stage, I've been doing this job. How long have 1906 01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:41,720 Speaker 10: I been here? Thirteen fourteen years? And this is this 1907 01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,960 Speaker 10: thing I always say when I have this opportunity to 1908 01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:49,400 Speaker 10: speak from my rural idoll in the countryside in England, 1909 01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,240 Speaker 10: because of course I've had to retreat here because I 1910 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,840 Speaker 10: cannot stand to live in London because it's as prisident. 1911 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,080 Speaker 10: Trump says, it's a very different town. And this is 1912 01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:59,280 Speaker 10: the point I always make right. The great benefit I 1913 01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:02,559 Speaker 10: bring to you, my American friends and cousins. I am 1914 01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:06,040 Speaker 10: your crystal ball. What is happening here today is what's 1915 01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:09,880 Speaker 10: coming for you in six months, six years, whatever. Okay, 1916 01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,040 Speaker 10: this is the future. Pay attention, it's already landed. In Minnesota. 1917 01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:17,479 Speaker 1: We're struggling with the Somali community and the in various 1918 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:21,519 Speaker 1: other ethnic or ethnic my recent ethic migrants who have 1919 01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,519 Speaker 1: congregated in the individual cities and then elected politicians like 1920 01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,920 Speaker 1: Ileanomar who share their thoughts and philosophies. But we can, 1921 01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,120 Speaker 1: and we currently are taking steps to stop the flow 1922 01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:35,880 Speaker 1: and hopefully keep our own personal identity and real quick 1923 01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,360 Speaker 1: here we're struggling here in the United States. We have 1924 01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:42,360 Speaker 1: a constitution that requires Congress to declare war. But we 1925 01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,000 Speaker 1: also have a president who is recharged in charge of 1926 01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,400 Speaker 1: and is the head of the American military, and he 1927 01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:50,280 Speaker 1: directs military affairs, but he also our commander in chief 1928 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,640 Speaker 1: rather but he also is responsible for foreign policy. And 1929 01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:56,080 Speaker 1: these things all overlap now in so far as Keer Starmer, 1930 01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,840 Speaker 1: what is his authority? Can Parliament chime in on this 1931 01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:01,200 Speaker 1: and say no, no, no, you got to play with 1932 01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:02,840 Speaker 1: the Americans more nice. So you need to open up 1933 01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:06,040 Speaker 1: these air bases to allow them for offensive and defensive strikes. 1934 01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,880 Speaker 1: Is there some opportunity here for the United Kingdom to 1935 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:13,000 Speaker 1: change directions in terms of care Starmer's current stance on. 1936 01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,599 Speaker 10: This great question. So obviously we don't have a written 1937 01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:18,800 Speaker 10: constitution in the UK like you guys have in the US, 1938 01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,360 Speaker 10: and there's a lot of not case law as such, 1939 01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:25,320 Speaker 10: but there's center as a president built up here. I 1940 01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,080 Speaker 10: believe the right to go to war is royal prerogative 1941 01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,400 Speaker 10: and the King is advised by the Prime Minister. So 1942 01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,439 Speaker 10: the King in Parliament is embodied there by the Prime Minister. 1943 01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:35,760 Speaker 10: So if the Prime Minister wants to get to a war, 1944 01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:37,439 Speaker 10: as far as we were, there's anything really that can 1945 01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:41,240 Speaker 10: stop him, apart from unless Parliament gets so upset about 1946 01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,200 Speaker 10: this that they have a photo no confidence in the 1947 01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:45,400 Speaker 10: Prime Minister to bring down the government. 1948 01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:45,760 Speaker 2: And that's that. 1949 01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:50,840 Speaker 10: So what this means is in practice, if we know 1950 01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,560 Speaker 10: action like this is coming, And a good example of 1951 01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,960 Speaker 10: this is all this talk we're having at the moment 1952 01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,960 Speaker 10: about a potential Western alliance of peacekeeper going to Ukraine. 1953 01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:03,880 Speaker 10: Such a thing we know that's on the horizon, and 1954 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:05,800 Speaker 10: as a way to keep Parliament on side, the Prime 1955 01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,240 Speaker 10: Minister has already said if we do this, we'll give 1956 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:13,640 Speaker 10: Parliament a vote on it first. But in terms of 1957 01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:18,559 Speaker 10: the more immediate which is this business of will Starmer 1958 01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,040 Speaker 10: won't he get involved with what's going on in Iran? 1959 01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,560 Speaker 10: Actually this has nothing to do with Parliament. What this 1960 01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:27,720 Speaker 10: comes down to is this sa Kere Starmer. Our prime 1961 01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,880 Speaker 10: minister is actually relatively new in politics. He's only been 1962 01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,160 Speaker 10: in Parliament for like ten years or something. And to 1963 01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:36,200 Speaker 10: have gone from being a newbie backbencher to being Prime 1964 01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:39,240 Speaker 10: Minister of the UK so quickly, very unusual, very impressive. 1965 01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,440 Speaker 10: And the reason for this is he's not a career politician. 1966 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:46,240 Speaker 10: He is a human rights lawyer, very senior lawyer. Was 1967 01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:50,720 Speaker 10: actually the Director of Public Prosecutions, the most senior prosecutor 1968 01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:52,920 Speaker 10: in the whole of the UK, and that was his 1969 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:54,960 Speaker 10: last job before he came into politics. So he got 1970 01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 10: sort of imported into the Labor Party from this very 1971 01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:01,880 Speaker 10: important legal job and as I say, human rights lawyer, 1972 01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:06,760 Speaker 10: this guy is the world's number one fan of international 1973 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:10,799 Speaker 10: law is that he is the rules based international orders 1974 01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:14,880 Speaker 10: like number one reply Guy, Okay, So he absolutely is 1975 01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,920 Speaker 10: is dedicated to these concepts. And when it comes to 1976 01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:23,200 Speaker 10: President Trump coming to the UK and saying, Okay, we're 1977 01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:26,080 Speaker 10: going to launch these strikes, we need to use British bases, 1978 01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,240 Speaker 10: I presume we have your permission, because we always have 1979 01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,800 Speaker 10: in the past. So Kis Darmer's not looking at this 1980 01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,080 Speaker 10: from a position of what is the British national interest? 1981 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,000 Speaker 10: What's best for the world? You know, how can I 1982 01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:39,200 Speaker 10: help an ally? Why do I really have any good 1983 01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:41,760 Speaker 10: reason to say no? He's looking at it from I've 1984 01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:46,360 Speaker 10: got my stack of United Nations law textbooks here and 1985 01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,920 Speaker 10: they say no, and ergo I must say no because 1986 01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:51,600 Speaker 10: law is the most important thing in the world to me. 1987 01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,920 Speaker 10: We are being ruled by a cabal of lawyers and 1988 01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:57,360 Speaker 10: it is incredibly bad for this country. It is damaging 1989 01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,439 Speaker 10: us on the world stage, and it is destroying the 1990 01:49:59,439 --> 01:49:59,920 Speaker 10: special RelA. 1991 01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,080 Speaker 1: So London Burea Chief Oliver Lane, your comment earlier that 1992 01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:07,400 Speaker 1: kir Starmer believes that our actions against Iran are unlawful. 1993 01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,360 Speaker 1: You're referring to his perception of international law might they 1994 01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,840 Speaker 1: pivot over and ask what Kure Starmer's position is visa 1995 01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:17,080 Speaker 1: the Iran's atrocities over the years murdering its own people, 1996 01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:19,240 Speaker 1: and whether or not that too might buy vi A 1997 01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:23,080 Speaker 1: violation of international law funding terrorist organizations who indiscriminately kill 1998 01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:27,440 Speaker 1: people who enter Israel unlawfully and murder women, children, grandmothers, 1999 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:29,280 Speaker 1: burned babies. I mean, we could go on for hours 2000 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,840 Speaker 1: and hours the articulated position on any of those things 2001 01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,559 Speaker 1: via international law exactly. 2002 01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:38,519 Speaker 10: So this is the contradictions continue to roll on because 2003 01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:43,519 Speaker 10: we have the reports from Britain's Foreign Intelligence Agency six, 2004 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:47,680 Speaker 10: Internal Intelligence Agency MI five. They are very clear that 2005 01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:51,280 Speaker 10: Iran is a threat. In fact, in Parliament yesterday, when 2006 01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:54,519 Speaker 10: Sir Kara Starmer was trying to build this case to 2007 01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,240 Speaker 10: explain to the British people why he wasn't being involved, 2008 01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:03,080 Speaker 10: he admitted that Iran had launched twenty attempted terror attacks 2009 01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:07,320 Speaker 10: against people in Britain over the past year alone, and 2010 01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,920 Speaker 10: every single one of those attacks was intercepted and foiled 2011 01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,760 Speaker 10: by the intelligence agencies. Because, let's be honest, one of 2012 01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:14,519 Speaker 10: the best things that Britain, one of the best things 2013 01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:16,439 Speaker 10: in the world that Britain's do IS. We're very good 2014 01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:19,880 Speaker 10: at being spies with the Nation of James Bond, so 2015 01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,280 Speaker 10: we're very good at intercepting those terror attacks. That doesn't 2016 01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,280 Speaker 10: change the fact they wanted to do them. They wanted 2017 01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,240 Speaker 10: to kill those people. So he admitted that Britain is 2018 01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:30,640 Speaker 10: under attack from Iran and our intelligence agents IS have 2019 01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,719 Speaker 10: admitted that Iran is the number one sponsor of state 2020 01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:37,320 Speaker 10: terrorism in the world. We are being attacked, our allies 2021 01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:41,040 Speaker 10: are being attacked. The government admits this. And yet for Sikstarma, 2022 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,880 Speaker 10: no war because the United Nations hasn't said it's okay. 2023 01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:46,920 Speaker 10: And to him that's the most important thing. 2024 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,720 Speaker 1: Wow. And considering the body the make up of the 2025 01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:54,160 Speaker 1: United Nations, I mean, hell, they have the countries along 2026 01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:56,400 Speaker 1: the lines of Iran on the Human Rights Council, for 2027 01:51:56,479 --> 01:52:01,000 Speaker 1: God's sake, it's a laughable entity and organization. It becomes 2028 01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:04,000 Speaker 1: more and more pointless every year. And what more can 2029 01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,360 Speaker 1: I say. I'm just I'm thankful we have a constitution 2030 01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,800 Speaker 1: because you and your bunk are out there in the world, 2031 01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:13,080 Speaker 1: somewhere in the United Kingdom, Oliver Lane, you can speak 2032 01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:15,240 Speaker 1: your mind here on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. 2033 01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:17,400 Speaker 1: And I based upon everything I've read you might be 2034 01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,040 Speaker 1: subject to arrest in your country for these words. 2035 01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,559 Speaker 10: I pick my words very carefully and as we as 2036 01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,040 Speaker 10: we all must in this country, which is a remarkable 2037 01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,080 Speaker 10: situation to be in, because we live in a time 2038 01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:34,439 Speaker 10: where the police conduct dorn arrests, down arrest braids, for 2039 01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:40,160 Speaker 10: speech crimes, for throwaway tweets, you know, these little pops 2040 01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:43,000 Speaker 10: here and there of thought which will get you into 2041 01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,640 Speaker 10: the inside of a prison cell. So you know, we 2042 01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,240 Speaker 10: have to be careful, we have to be sensible because 2043 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,200 Speaker 10: if I'm on the inside of a prison cell, well 2044 01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:52,040 Speaker 10: I can't keep updating you what's happening in. 2045 01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:53,559 Speaker 1: The world, and you wouldn't be on the fifty five 2046 01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,920 Speaker 1: Krsy Morning Show, which my listening audience I truly appreciate. 2047 01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,360 Speaker 1: We also appreciate what everything that bright Bart's doing each 2048 01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,280 Speaker 1: and every day. Oliver Lane, London Bureau Chief, it is 2049 01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:04,000 Speaker 1: always a pleasure to have you on the program. I 2050 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,240 Speaker 1: look forward to our discussions down the road again. And 2051 01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,240 Speaker 1: have a wonderful week, my friend. Thanks for your time 2052 01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:08,719 Speaker 1: this morning. 2053 01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:10,840 Speaker 10: It's gonna be a busy week, but it's gonna be 2054 01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:11,200 Speaker 10: a good one. 2055 01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:12,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for me. I hope you are right on the 2056 01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,680 Speaker 1: good part. Busy definitely from fifty. 2057 01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:20,200 Speaker 6: Five KRC the Talk STATIONDG see. 2058 01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:30,479 Speaker 1: Once fifty five KRC the talk station. 2059 01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:33,160 Speaker 4: It is that time. 2060 01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,439 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Daniel Davis. It's time for the Daniel Davis 2061 01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,160 Speaker 1: Deeve Dive. I was lasting and laughing at the bumper 2062 01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,759 Speaker 1: music that Joe is playing from Pink Floyd generally speaking 2063 01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,519 Speaker 1: about Warren generally, and that's what you and I typically 2064 01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:45,479 Speaker 1: talk about. Said as it is, we are engaged in 2065 01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:48,240 Speaker 1: global conflict and nobody knows better than Daniel Davis, retired 2066 01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:50,800 Speaker 1: Lieutenant colonel. And you can find podcasts from Daniel Davis 2067 01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:54,080 Speaker 1: throughout the week wherever you get your podcast. Daniel Davis 2068 01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,519 Speaker 1: Deep Dive. Welcome back, my friend. Gie. It's too bad 2069 01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,360 Speaker 1: we don't have anything to talk about today. Good to 2070 01:53:58,400 --> 01:53:58,840 Speaker 1: have you back. 2071 01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:01,360 Speaker 9: You know, I was thinking about that, Brian. It's like, man, 2072 01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:02,679 Speaker 9: what are we going to talk about to day? There's 2073 01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:06,679 Speaker 9: hard anything? Oh wait a minute, Oh yes, yike. 2074 01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to throw a curveball because there's a 2075 01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,400 Speaker 1: lot of you know, activity going on that we can 2076 01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:12,760 Speaker 1: we can focus on it. We will. But I thought 2077 01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:16,360 Speaker 1: it rather interesting, perhaps comical. If you can find levity 2078 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:19,080 Speaker 1: in this situation. I was talking to Congressman David Taylor, 2079 01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:22,000 Speaker 1: I believe it was on Friday, and we were talking 2080 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:25,439 Speaker 1: about the War Powers Authorization of War Powers Resolution, Congressman 2081 01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:27,680 Speaker 1: Massy Rokanna saying, listen, we got a vote on this. 2082 01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:31,280 Speaker 1: He expressed some favor in that, and I said out loud, 2083 01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:34,240 Speaker 1: well the votes next week sometime. I think they have 2084 01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,200 Speaker 1: a queued up for Thursday. I said, well, what happens 2085 01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:39,760 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump's launches the war over the weekend ahead 2086 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,920 Speaker 1: of the vote. And that's exactly what happened, So I 2087 01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:44,800 Speaker 1: don't think he was necessarily trying to get out ahead 2088 01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:46,640 Speaker 1: of the vote. What we found out, though, is I 2089 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:50,440 Speaker 1: guess the Israeli intelligence is pretty damn good. You think 2090 01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:52,320 Speaker 1: a zoom call would have been a better idea for 2091 01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,160 Speaker 1: the Ayatola and his top leaders. They all congregated in 2092 01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:58,480 Speaker 1: one single spot. I thought they would have known better 2093 01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:02,120 Speaker 1: than that. Daniel Davis, your reaction to that, Yeah. 2094 01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,960 Speaker 9: It's it's a mixed one. At least according to what 2095 01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:08,680 Speaker 9: the Iranians have said was that they they encouraged him 2096 01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:10,800 Speaker 9: to go into another place. They encouraged him to go 2097 01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:15,400 Speaker 9: into many underground bunkers that they have and he said, no, 2098 01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:17,840 Speaker 9: I'm just gonna keep going about my normal business and 2099 01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,520 Speaker 9: if I die, I die. Part of me thinks that 2100 01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:22,400 Speaker 9: they that was part of the plan. As an eighty 2101 01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,520 Speaker 9: six year old, I think he just said, you know what, 2102 01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:27,480 Speaker 9: I'm gonna die. Use me as a martyr. That's where 2103 01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,480 Speaker 9: I can best serve. That's what That's part of it. 2104 01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,480 Speaker 9: But then the other part is less is less clear. 2105 01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,240 Speaker 9: If you wanted to become a martyr, that's one thing, 2106 01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:37,200 Speaker 9: But to have a meeting with a lot of your 2107 01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 9: top leaders that doesn't seem to be very wise. So 2108 01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:42,800 Speaker 9: I think that was a big mistake. It could be 2109 01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,600 Speaker 9: that they thought that, you know, the conventional military wisdom 2110 01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,440 Speaker 9: is you attack in the middle of the not too 2111 01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:50,520 Speaker 9: three am in the morning. That's kind of our motus opera. 2112 01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:51,960 Speaker 9: And died and when the sun came up at like 2113 01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:54,240 Speaker 9: six something. Apparently they had this meeting at eight, and 2114 01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:56,040 Speaker 9: I guess they thought, Okay, well it's not going to 2115 01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:59,040 Speaker 9: happen today, so let's come back together. And that curve 2116 01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:01,880 Speaker 9: ball was pretty costly for the Iranian side. 2117 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,080 Speaker 1: Well, of course, it ties into the whole idea of 2118 01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:07,400 Speaker 1: what is going to happen next? If this is regime change. 2119 01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,480 Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll find out. But you know, there's a 2120 01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:13,280 Speaker 1: command of control structure, there's a hierarchy, and most of 2121 01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:17,800 Speaker 1: the hierarchy evaporated in that one bomb strike. So what's left. 2122 01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:21,280 Speaker 1: I imagine there are enough fundamentalist individuals and somebody could 2123 01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:23,320 Speaker 1: step in the shoes of the Iotola and take over 2124 01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,960 Speaker 1: that role. But well, that person have the same power 2125 01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:30,760 Speaker 1: and control that the late Iatola had, because I understand 2126 01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:34,320 Speaker 1: this was like a cult of personality. He was the guy, 2127 01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:37,800 Speaker 1: and what he said goes, and everything was built in 2128 01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:39,160 Speaker 1: and around supporting him. 2129 01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:42,720 Speaker 9: Well, this is something we need to understand here so 2130 01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,760 Speaker 9: that we have a sober understanding of what should come next. 2131 01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:49,400 Speaker 9: The Iranians fully foresaw this, and they had a plan 2132 01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:52,680 Speaker 9: in place. They had a continuity's government plan like we 2133 01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:55,200 Speaker 9: have here, and they had by some reports, two and 2134 01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,200 Speaker 9: three deep on nearly all the senior leader positions. They 2135 01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,680 Speaker 9: also had something that we're seeing play out in that 2136 01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:03,400 Speaker 9: a version of the dead hand strategy to where if 2137 01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:06,240 Speaker 9: you lose communications because they anticipated that we would hit 2138 01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:07,920 Speaker 9: the command of control centers, that we would try to 2139 01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:11,200 Speaker 9: knock out their computer system, cyber attax, et cetera. And 2140 01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,320 Speaker 9: that they would lose connect connectivity, so they already had 2141 01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:17,400 Speaker 9: an action plan in place and said, if you lose contact, 2142 01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:21,520 Speaker 9: here's your actions. Don't wait for any more instructions. You 2143 01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:24,720 Speaker 9: start launching these missile batteries. You start launching those, here's 2144 01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:28,160 Speaker 9: your target set, et cetera. And it worked brilliantly from 2145 01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:32,920 Speaker 9: the Iranian perspective. And I would challenge these characterizations that 2146 01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:34,760 Speaker 9: I see a lot of people making that this as 2147 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:38,440 Speaker 9: a cult personality situation, because the Iranian situation is built 2148 01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:44,680 Speaker 9: on a hierarchical system and a bureaucracy that transcends just 2149 01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:47,520 Speaker 9: the iatola. He is a figure, he is important figure. 2150 01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:50,080 Speaker 9: He is the head of state. But they have a 2151 01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:54,480 Speaker 9: lot of other governing institutions and bodies and positions. So 2152 01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:56,920 Speaker 9: I think that they are going to have more success 2153 01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:59,000 Speaker 9: replacing this that I think many in the West may think. 2154 01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:01,280 Speaker 9: And so far, that exactly the way it's worked out, 2155 01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:04,400 Speaker 9: and there hadn't been any diminution or reduction in their 2156 01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:07,880 Speaker 9: ability to conduct affairs or to have a coherent command 2157 01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,680 Speaker 9: of control system. And you haven't seen anybody rise up 2158 01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:12,640 Speaker 9: against it. And I'll tell you one other thing that's 2159 01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:15,640 Speaker 9: not working out in our favor at all. On the 2160 01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:17,840 Speaker 9: surface of it, you had this tragedy where a girls' 2161 01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,480 Speaker 9: school was hit in the opening rounds of this, whether 2162 01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:23,280 Speaker 9: by an American is there's really missed, We don't know yet, 2163 01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:27,480 Speaker 9: but hundreds of kids were killed in teachers and that 2164 01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:32,320 Speaker 9: has galvanized the country against us, and they're openly protested. 2165 01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:34,720 Speaker 9: There was millions of people marching at their funeral I 2166 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:38,080 Speaker 9: think earlier today, just hours ago, and that is not 2167 01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,680 Speaker 9: helping our hope that people would rise up against the 2168 01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,520 Speaker 9: regime after we knocked out the Mola, the Iola and 2169 01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:47,840 Speaker 9: then turn over right now, there's no evidence that's going 2170 01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:48,480 Speaker 9: to happen at all. 2171 01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:52,000 Speaker 1: Well, let me suggest perhaps it is because the Itola 2172 01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:53,920 Speaker 1: had been going around killing tens of thousands of his 2173 01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,320 Speaker 1: own people who did raise the spector did go out 2174 01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,640 Speaker 1: and protest. Maybe they still have that taste in the 2175 01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:00,320 Speaker 1: back of the mountain. They're waiting to see how things 2176 01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:03,560 Speaker 1: settle out. So I can of course understand loyalists taking 2177 01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,000 Speaker 1: to the street to protest a horrific action like blowing 2178 01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,640 Speaker 1: up a school. Question is whether there's an equal, if 2179 01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,960 Speaker 1: not greater number behind the scenes or keeping their powder 2180 01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:13,960 Speaker 1: dry because they're afraid that well, the troops might pull 2181 01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:15,440 Speaker 1: a kind of gun them down in the streets. 2182 01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,600 Speaker 9: Well, they certainly may, and if a lot of them 2183 01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:22,720 Speaker 9: protests up, that almost certainly would happen. But I'll tell 2184 01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:25,960 Speaker 9: you there's another dynamic here. I've talked to somebody I 2185 01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:29,200 Speaker 9: know that's in the United States that absolutely hated the regime. 2186 01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:31,320 Speaker 9: In fact, it was driven out. His family was driven 2187 01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:34,360 Speaker 9: out by I've talked to another friend of mine who 2188 01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:37,960 Speaker 9: himself interviewed somebody, and these are two people that absolutely 2189 01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:41,040 Speaker 9: hate the Iotota regime and all that and wanted to 2190 01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:43,200 Speaker 9: be overthrown. But they said that we have put them 2191 01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:46,880 Speaker 9: in this really, really awkward position to where you're saying, listen, 2192 01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:51,280 Speaker 9: you're wanting us to help you who is attacking us, 2193 01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:53,920 Speaker 9: Israel and the United States. You know, somebody who's been 2194 01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:56,800 Speaker 9: an enemy of is or Iran for a long time, 2195 01:59:57,160 --> 01:59:59,640 Speaker 9: and you're wanting us to somehow say, yes, we're going 2196 01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:02,640 Speaker 9: to see, We're going to take your side. Who you're 2197 02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:05,640 Speaker 9: killing our people, our civilians, and are blowing up our 2198 02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:08,440 Speaker 9: cities and blowing up our military, and we're gonna help 2199 02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:10,640 Speaker 9: you to try to overturn this. And then the other 2200 02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:13,400 Speaker 9: thing they say, both of them said, is that, Look, 2201 02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:17,160 Speaker 9: you've got a terrible track record of having regime change 2202 02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:19,840 Speaker 9: and then just walking away and leaving chaos behind. And 2203 02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:22,920 Speaker 9: we don't want to be another failed state. So that's 2204 02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:26,160 Speaker 9: making people not want to embrace what we're doing. And 2205 02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:28,520 Speaker 9: we got a lot of you know, we got a 2206 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,720 Speaker 9: lot of bad history there on our side. It doesn't 2207 02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:31,120 Speaker 9: help us. 2208 02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Well, I suppose intent isn't worth a wit when you're 2209 02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:37,040 Speaker 1: talking about actual collateral damage, But the intent, I suppose, 2210 02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:39,080 Speaker 1: and I think I'm on solid ground on this. We 2211 02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:42,840 Speaker 1: don't want to kill the Iranian people. That may happen 2212 02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:45,200 Speaker 1: as consequence of war, which happens all the time. That's 2213 02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:47,280 Speaker 1: the regrettable part about it. That's why we all weep 2214 02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:50,560 Speaker 1: over warfare, because innocent people die. But we are truly 2215 02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:54,920 Speaker 1: after the military and the idea of liberating them from 2216 02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the military. That's the thumb of oppression, as we would 2217 02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,360 Speaker 1: put it, that prevents them from enjoying the free and 2218 02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:03,000 Speaker 1: perhaps working cooperatively with their neighbors in the region. 2219 02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:05,840 Speaker 9: Well, but you got to understand though, from I mean, 2220 02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:08,960 Speaker 9: it's not too dissimilar from what we have here. We 2221 02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:11,080 Speaker 9: may not a lot of people may not like you 2222 02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:13,800 Speaker 9: know whoever's in the White House at any given time, 2223 02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:17,240 Speaker 9: but everybody supports the troops. Well, there's a similar situation 2224 02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:20,080 Speaker 9: in Iran, at least from part of it is that 2225 02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:23,600 Speaker 9: the military per se that keeps them, you know, that's 2226 02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:26,640 Speaker 9: their national security fences made up of people like them, 2227 02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:29,360 Speaker 9: so they there's their neighbors and whatever the neighbor they 2228 02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,200 Speaker 9: care about them. It's you know, it's the guys who 2229 02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:34,440 Speaker 9: were given orders, especially the ones that were keeping security 2230 02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:37,640 Speaker 9: that we're attacking the protesters. So those guys have a 2231 02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:41,400 Speaker 9: different category. But the general military who are getting attacked 2232 02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:44,040 Speaker 9: and stuff are part of the population. So that's that's 2233 02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:47,520 Speaker 9: not necessarily they don't necessarily view them as an enemy. 2234 02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:49,720 Speaker 1: At large, all right, Daniel Davis, You and I have 2235 02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:53,560 Speaker 1: talked about this quite a few times in different battle theaters. 2236 02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:56,720 Speaker 1: The same thing applies here, the potential of running out 2237 02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:59,560 Speaker 1: of interceptors. We don't know how many bombs, rockets, long 2238 02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:02,280 Speaker 1: term or long range missiles of the Iranians have. They 2239 02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:05,480 Speaker 1: clearly have more, but we are going through the interceptors 2240 02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:09,960 Speaker 1: of various types mentioned earlier, more than changes of underwear 2241 02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, daily for me, and we're going through thousands 2242 02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:14,400 Speaker 1: of these things, it looks like they're going to run 2243 02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:16,600 Speaker 1: out at some point. We can't make them as quickly 2244 02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:18,800 Speaker 1: as they need them, so more and more of these 2245 02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:20,640 Speaker 1: rockets are going to end up hitting targets. 2246 02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:23,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, that is a huge problem. And when we're already 2247 02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:26,080 Speaker 9: seeing something I thank you and I talked about before. 2248 02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:26,360 Speaker 4: Is that. 2249 02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:30,080 Speaker 9: Listen, we saw in June twenty twenty five that a 2250 02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:32,000 Speaker 9: lot of these Iranian missiles were getting through, and the 2251 02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:34,400 Speaker 9: longer that war went, the more of them we're getting through. 2252 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:36,160 Speaker 9: And I said, there's no reason to think that they 2253 02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:38,520 Speaker 9: wouldn't start the next round where they ended up the 2254 02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:40,400 Speaker 9: last one. And that's how it's working out. I don't 2255 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:42,280 Speaker 9: know if you've been seeing a lot of these missiles 2256 02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:45,120 Speaker 9: inner incoming into Israel. Yes, but I mean you see 2257 02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:47,320 Speaker 9: sometimes there's these whole broadches and you see two or 2258 02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:50,040 Speaker 9: three intercepted, and you see a bunch of them getting 2259 02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:53,640 Speaker 9: through there. So even with the interceptors we have, there's 2260 02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:56,000 Speaker 9: already a lot of the ballistic missiles that are getting through. 2261 02:02:56,040 --> 02:03:00,360 Speaker 9: We have some success on the drones, at least some success. 2262 02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:01,760 Speaker 9: Some of those are still getting through. But if you 2263 02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:04,240 Speaker 9: get to the point of where there's not enough to 2264 02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:07,360 Speaker 9: even shoot down some of the missiles here. Yeah, there's 2265 02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:08,960 Speaker 9: going to be a world to hurt because look, I 2266 02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:12,839 Speaker 9: think that Iran has foreseen this possibility and has prepared 2267 02:03:12,920 --> 02:03:16,480 Speaker 9: for decades, for decades, and they have an enormous stock 2268 02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:19,360 Speaker 9: pile of these things in these big underground missile cities 2269 02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:21,880 Speaker 9: some are calling them, which they have released some video 2270 02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:25,720 Speaker 9: and shows, and it's just tavernus and miles of underground tunnels. 2271 02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:27,720 Speaker 9: And I'm talking to like massive things that you can 2272 02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:32,120 Speaker 9: drive big trucks into, stuffed full of ammunition and weapons 2273 02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:36,240 Speaker 9: and missiles, missile launchers, drones, the big ones, the medium 2274 02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:40,000 Speaker 9: sized ones, all kinds of ordinance. So the evidence suggests 2275 02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:43,360 Speaker 9: that they have more offensive missiles than we do defensive missiles. 2276 02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:46,040 Speaker 9: And if this thing drags out, we're going to be 2277 02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:46,760 Speaker 9: in some trouble. 2278 02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:50,200 Speaker 1: Well, given Donald Trump's pronouncements that they haven't seen anything yet, 2279 02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:53,640 Speaker 1: is it possible that intelligence sources know where these are 2280 02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:57,760 Speaker 1: and like ultimately bombing the underground nuclear based or nuclear facilities, 2281 02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:01,480 Speaker 1: that those two will be targets, maybe, you know, eviscerating 2282 02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Iron's ability to like our interceptor missiles, their ability to 2283 02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:08,040 Speaker 1: continue to launch these massive barrages. 2284 02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:12,240 Speaker 9: I have no doubts that that's a priority target for us, 2285 02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:13,680 Speaker 9: that has been from the beginning. I don't know why 2286 02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:16,040 Speaker 9: we would wait on that. I'm not sure what Trump 2287 02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:18,760 Speaker 9: may mean on that, but I'll just tell you these 2288 02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:22,560 Speaker 9: facilities were built specifically to withstand those kinds of missiles, 2289 02:04:22,600 --> 02:04:26,080 Speaker 9: and we have very few of these big GBU bunker 2290 02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:29,680 Speaker 9: busters that we used in the Operation Midnight Hammer, and 2291 02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:34,040 Speaker 9: even those had limited capacity under the very deeply underground 2292 02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:37,080 Speaker 9: strikes that we hit there at four to Zho and tons, 2293 02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:39,280 Speaker 9: et cetera. So we don't have that many. And some 2294 02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,240 Speaker 9: of these have to be carried by B twos and 2295 02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:43,720 Speaker 9: you have to fly over the target and that makes 2296 02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:47,440 Speaker 9: them at risk of being shot down, so that it's 2297 02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:48,880 Speaker 9: a big risk that goes along with that. But the 2298 02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:50,680 Speaker 9: bottom line is there's so many of these and we 2299 02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:51,400 Speaker 9: don't know where. 2300 02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:51,720 Speaker 1: They all are. 2301 02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:55,000 Speaker 9: This is a country, remember, four times bigger than the 2302 02:04:55,080 --> 02:04:58,400 Speaker 9: country of Iraq geographically. This stuff is spread out all 2303 02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:00,600 Speaker 9: over the place and you're not gonna find I mean, 2304 02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,120 Speaker 9: just look how much trouble we had Israel had finding 2305 02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:06,680 Speaker 9: all the tunnels of Hamas in this tiny little Gaza strip. 2306 02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:09,280 Speaker 9: They never found them all They're still looking for some today. 2307 02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:11,480 Speaker 9: If that gives you an indication of how hard it 2308 02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:13,640 Speaker 9: is going to be for us to knock out Iran. 2309 02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:16,480 Speaker 1: I always try to maintain an awareness of how vast 2310 02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:19,120 Speaker 1: the land is. Yeah, two point four times the state 2311 02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:22,120 Speaker 1: of Texas. That's a lot of real estate. The retired 2312 02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:24,720 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis for the Daniel Davis Deep Die 2313 02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:27,400 Speaker 1: find his podcast wherever you get yours, Daniel Davis. Something 2314 02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,680 Speaker 1: tells me we were talking about this next Tuesday. 2315 02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:31,800 Speaker 9: I have a feeling you're right. 2316 02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:33,960 Speaker 1: Well, at least we have an interesting topic to talk about. 2317 02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:35,720 Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. We'll talk text Tuesday. Have a 2318 02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:36,560 Speaker 1: great week, my friend. 2319 02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:42,160 Speaker 6: See the fifty five krs the talk station, Hey, forty 2320 02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:42,360 Speaker 6: eight to. 2321 02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:45,440 Speaker 1: Fifty five KRCD talks Station. I love when the doctor's 2322 02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:48,400 Speaker 1: from OHC or in studio to talk about cancer because 2323 02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:50,960 Speaker 1: one thing in this divided world that we all can 2324 02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:54,440 Speaker 1: collectively agree on one hundred percent without hesitation, cancer sucks 2325 02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:57,800 Speaker 1: without further ado. And I know OHC has been doing 2326 02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,000 Speaker 1: clinical trust for a long long time, and I've learned 2327 02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:03,160 Speaker 1: a lot about chronic clinical trials from the doctors that 2328 02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:06,080 Speaker 1: I've talked to over the years, and apparently this is 2329 02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:09,720 Speaker 1: the first place to start, not the last. Clinical trials 2330 02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:13,440 Speaker 1: are how the folks at OHC and cancer researchers find 2331 02:06:13,480 --> 02:06:16,000 Speaker 1: better treatments that are the vital step in providing cancer 2332 02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:20,040 Speaker 1: patients hope. And joining me today in studio OHCS, Doctor A. G. 2333 02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Glah is a medical oncologists and hematologists and director of 2334 02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:26,600 Speaker 1: stem cell transplant and Cellular Therapy here to discuss why 2335 02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:30,240 Speaker 1: clinical trials are a vital part of treating cancer. Welcome 2336 02:06:30,280 --> 02:06:31,920 Speaker 1: to the fifty five Carcy Morning Show. It's a real 2337 02:06:31,960 --> 02:06:33,720 Speaker 1: pleasure to have you here, doctor Glave. 2338 02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:35,080 Speaker 11: Good morning, Thank you very much. 2339 02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:39,400 Speaker 1: Guessing here, it's my pleasure, all right. The benefits of 2340 02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:42,640 Speaker 1: being in a clinical trial. First off, what exactly is 2341 02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:45,160 Speaker 1: a clinical trial? This boiled down to its barest curve. 2342 02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:48,960 Speaker 11: Clinical trial is different stages of testing a new treatment. 2343 02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:52,040 Speaker 11: So we start with phase one, Phase two, Phase three. 2344 02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:57,040 Speaker 11: Phase one we're testing the safety of the product, Phase 2345 02:06:57,120 --> 02:07:01,560 Speaker 11: two safety and efficacy, and stage three or phase three, 2346 02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:04,680 Speaker 11: we're actually comparing it with the standard of care. So 2347 02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:07,680 Speaker 11: there are many many steps for the clinical trials or 2348 02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:10,120 Speaker 11: the product to make it to the market and to 2349 02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:15,120 Speaker 11: be available for the patients, to make sure it's safe, effective, 2350 02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:17,080 Speaker 11: better than what we have currently. 2351 02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:19,120 Speaker 1: All right, So I would imagine stage one and two 2352 02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:24,200 Speaker 1: confirm that it will directly address the cancer issue, and 2353 02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:26,640 Speaker 1: then the stage three clinical trial is to determine whether 2354 02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:30,000 Speaker 1: it does a better job than the previously recommended standard 2355 02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:30,280 Speaker 1: of care. 2356 02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:32,560 Speaker 11: Correct. And I'll be honest with you, with the pre 2357 02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:36,680 Speaker 11: clinical work, we know it's safe, we know it works, 2358 02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:39,880 Speaker 11: but we have to prove to FDA and everyone and 2359 02:07:39,960 --> 02:07:43,160 Speaker 11: the patients that really it does that on a real 2360 02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:44,120 Speaker 11: life issue. 2361 02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:44,600 Speaker 2: All right. 2362 02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:48,000 Speaker 1: So the hopeful benefit of being in a clinical trial 2363 02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:50,240 Speaker 1: is you're going to get at least as far as 2364 02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:53,720 Speaker 1: the prior standard of care. But the hope is it's 2365 02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:56,000 Speaker 1: going to do a lot better job, better job less 2366 02:07:56,120 --> 02:08:00,480 Speaker 1: side effects. Oh, you're in my wheelhouse now, sir. In 2367 02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:04,200 Speaker 1: side effects, How does OHC handle cancer research for their 2368 02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:06,360 Speaker 1: cancer patients? At least as so far as the clinical 2369 02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:07,360 Speaker 1: trial areas can start. 2370 02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:11,360 Speaker 11: So honestly, in my practice and my colleagues practice, we 2371 02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:14,520 Speaker 11: offer patients clinical trial in every stage of the disease, 2372 02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:20,120 Speaker 11: so frontline, second line, third and fourth line, we have 2373 02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:24,080 Speaker 11: clinical trials that covers all these bases. And the advantage 2374 02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:26,880 Speaker 11: of that you're getting actually the new technology and the 2375 02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:31,480 Speaker 11: treatment in the current situation, it's going to be in 2376 02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:34,640 Speaker 11: the future standard of care. And that happened with CARTI. 2377 02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:37,200 Speaker 11: If you go back seven years ago when I was 2378 02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:41,440 Speaker 11: studying that program at Duke, we had really clinical trials, 2379 02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:44,040 Speaker 11: that's all what we had. But shortly after we have 2380 02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:46,520 Speaker 11: as a standard of care and now we call it 2381 02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:50,760 Speaker 11: cure essions with lymphoma. So you can see actually the 2382 02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:54,200 Speaker 11: evolution of clinical trials becoming the standard of care. The 2383 02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:58,440 Speaker 11: advantage of having a clinical trial early on you're getting 2384 02:08:58,520 --> 02:09:03,640 Speaker 11: the new technology. You're actually helping other patients by proving 2385 02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:04,440 Speaker 11: that this works. 2386 02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to be altruistic, that's a place to. 2387 02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:12,720 Speaker 11: Be absolutely and basically you're benefiting your disease. So these 2388 02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:16,480 Speaker 11: therapy is most likely not chemotherapy. They are more target 2389 02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:20,640 Speaker 11: therapy or immune therapy that has less different side effects 2390 02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:23,280 Speaker 11: and less side effects than the chemotherapy that hits everything. 2391 02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:26,920 Speaker 1: Well, being a medical oncologist nematologist, you did just mention 2392 02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:29,760 Speaker 1: lymphoma and tell me a little bit more about blood 2393 02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:32,280 Speaker 1: cancer program with HC and how you're helping patients, cause 2394 02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. 2395 02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:39,280 Speaker 11: Well, lymphomas is part of the hematological madignancies that we 2396 02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:43,840 Speaker 11: deal with. Our program is actually a complete program, comprehensive 2397 02:09:44,240 --> 02:09:49,400 Speaker 11: that does stem cell transplant, CARTI immune therapy and basically 2398 02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:53,200 Speaker 11: the basic treatment of the hematologic madignancy is including them 2399 02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:57,560 Speaker 11: filma my looma, acute leukemia's, chronic leukemias. And we see 2400 02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:00,800 Speaker 11: also benign in hematology, so patients with anemia that's not 2401 02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:05,800 Speaker 11: known why, whether iron deficiency or be twelve. Patients with 2402 02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:09,520 Speaker 11: bleeding disorders we see that as well. Patients with clothing 2403 02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:13,320 Speaker 11: disorder we see that. And we were quite you know, 2404 02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:16,520 Speaker 11: advanced in our approach to these kind of things, given 2405 02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:20,040 Speaker 11: the research that we're doing, given the experience that we 2406 02:10:20,120 --> 02:10:23,200 Speaker 11: have in our group, I think this is a lot 2407 02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:23,880 Speaker 11: to speak about. 2408 02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:26,680 Speaker 1: Oh, I would imagine, So what are the newest trials 2409 02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:28,840 Speaker 1: you have going on that people need to know about 2410 02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:30,120 Speaker 1: along these lines, doctor law. 2411 02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:33,600 Speaker 11: So we have actually multiple exciting trials. One of them 2412 02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:37,520 Speaker 11: is actually a very new approach to breast cancer, so 2413 02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:41,640 Speaker 11: triple negative breast cancer that's metaesthetic. We have a bryer 2414 02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:46,400 Speaker 11: Cell which is a new clinical trial of allergenic carti 2415 02:10:46,600 --> 02:10:49,880 Speaker 11: meaning carti coming from a different donor. And this is 2416 02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:53,800 Speaker 11: just amazing to have CARTI invading the space of the 2417 02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:58,480 Speaker 11: solid tumors, because most of the time it's for hermatological delgancies. 2418 02:10:58,520 --> 02:11:01,440 Speaker 11: But now we talk about sol tumors. We also have 2419 02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:05,040 Speaker 11: for acute leukemia a new trial coming in and it's 2420 02:11:05,080 --> 02:11:09,680 Speaker 11: not only acute leukemia, is the acute teele and phoblastic leukemia, which. 2421 02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:11,560 Speaker 10: Is rare kind of disease. 2422 02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:14,640 Speaker 11: But the treatment for it, the standard treatment most of 2423 02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:17,120 Speaker 11: the time is not that effective. So having the car 2424 02:11:17,240 --> 02:11:20,600 Speaker 11: TI and that kind of space is extremely important. 2425 02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:23,440 Speaker 1: Well, the doctors that have come in and preceded you, 2426 02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:27,600 Speaker 1: doctor Gaal, talk about car TI this it's I hate 2427 02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:29,800 Speaker 1: to be so bold and stating, and you can certainly 2428 02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:32,920 Speaker 1: temper my optimism. It sounds to me like it is 2429 02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:36,920 Speaker 1: going to be the magic bullet for many, if not all, 2430 02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:38,080 Speaker 1: cancers down the road. 2431 02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:39,400 Speaker 11: So I'm going to add to that. 2432 02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:42,800 Speaker 1: Actually, oh yeah, double down, go ahead. Absolutely. 2433 02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:45,520 Speaker 11: So when you look at the CARTI, what we're doing 2434 02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:47,880 Speaker 11: today is going to be different in five years, it's 2435 02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:50,280 Speaker 11: going to be car TI still the same concept. But 2436 02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:53,000 Speaker 11: what we're doing with the CARTI itself as a construct 2437 02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:57,480 Speaker 11: is just amazing. We're hitting different engines, we're hitting different pathways, 2438 02:11:57,960 --> 02:12:01,440 Speaker 11: we're having less side effects the allegenetic cars which is 2439 02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:04,560 Speaker 11: coming not necessarily from the patient, so we don't depend 2440 02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:07,480 Speaker 11: on the immune system that's been beaten up. We depend 2441 02:12:07,560 --> 02:12:10,200 Speaker 11: on a normal immune system to bring to the patients 2442 02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:14,240 Speaker 11: and modify that to fight the disease. So honestly, uh, 2443 02:12:14,600 --> 02:12:16,600 Speaker 11: we're going to see evolution of the car TIE and 2444 02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:18,480 Speaker 11: I think you're absolutely right. It's going to be the 2445 02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:19,480 Speaker 11: name of the game. 2446 02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:23,680 Speaker 1: So if I can maybe rephrase it again correctly if 2447 02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Currently it's bespoke. Each individual patient has a 2448 02:12:28,720 --> 02:12:33,480 Speaker 1: car TI therapy designed specifically for them. Someday you're going 2449 02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:35,280 Speaker 1: to get a box off the shelf. 2450 02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:38,960 Speaker 11: Absolutely, and we're doing that currently in terms of you know, 2451 02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:41,480 Speaker 11: of the shelf. And I think that's a great term 2452 02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:46,440 Speaker 11: because the manufacturing time of CARTI takes average of three weeks. 2453 02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:49,520 Speaker 11: But with the ilegenatic one, that's off the shelf literally, 2454 02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:50,320 Speaker 11: oh god, you know. 2455 02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:53,960 Speaker 1: So that's you know, that's exciting stuff right there, doctor Glow. 2456 02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:55,760 Speaker 1: And that's see, this is the kind of thing. Someday 2457 02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,080 Speaker 1: you're going to come in here and you just say 2458 02:12:58,200 --> 02:12:58,640 Speaker 1: it's done. 2459 02:12:58,920 --> 02:12:59,400 Speaker 3: You've got it. 2460 02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:03,560 Speaker 1: We've beat cancer. So all right, Clinical trials OHG. That's 2461 02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:05,960 Speaker 1: what it's all about. Be there, be altruistic, but also 2462 02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:08,120 Speaker 1: be in the cutting edge of cancer research. Listen, I'm 2463 02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:10,880 Speaker 1: a patient. I happy to have them in here and 2464 02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:12,640 Speaker 1: support with the work that they're doing, but they give 2465 02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:15,760 Speaker 1: me wonderful treatments. So to learn more about OHC cancer treatments, 2466 02:13:16,120 --> 02:13:18,720 Speaker 1: a second opinion, and learn about clinical trials that probably 2467 02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:22,760 Speaker 1: are available for you at OHC, visit ohcare dot com, 2468 02:13:23,320 --> 02:13:25,040 Speaker 1: ohcare dot com, or give them a call. It eight 2469 02:13:25,120 --> 02:13:28,360 Speaker 1: eight eight sixty eight hundred. That's eight eight eight six 2470 02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:31,400 Speaker 1: four nine forty eight hundred, doctor Glaw. Exciting stuff. Thank 2471 02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:33,080 Speaker 1: you so much for coming in and talking about Lisciener 2472 02:13:33,080 --> 02:13:33,520 Speaker 1: to me today