1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Man, he's been putting on all the work, breaking this 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: thing down, sweating bullets, eating doritos, a couple of snack 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: packs to get him through the night, watching the tape 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. To give us a 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: take on what really went down in Super Bowl sixty yesterday. 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Our friend Huey Millen, how are you, man. 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: What's happening? Doing great? 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 4: Doing? 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: What's happening? 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm gonna lose my voice here 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: any second, so I'll make sure I get my best 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: questions out now, all right before my voice goes to hell. 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, Let's just start at the top. 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Give you a shot to kind of view from you 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: thirty five forty thousand feet on not only what you 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: saw yesterday, but what you saw this franchise and this 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: team just do well. 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: I feel like they were one year ahead given all 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: the changes. I think defensively you could say they were ready. 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: But offensively, were we ready for the Sea Arks to 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: set a franchise record for points? And? Uh, you know 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: clearly they were. They were not to the level of 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: the defense for the duration of the season, but they had 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: their moments and the numbers don't lie, you can't set 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: a record. You know that they're the third highest scoring 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: team in the league, and and uh and then to 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: just carry this through the playoffs, to clean up the turnovers, 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: to uh, to do it enough, and then to really 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: be on a pace for a record setting historic type 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: of u of a game until the fourth quarter. You 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 3: know they they they leake some oil from a yardage standpoint, 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: No big deal. It would have been nice to grow 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: grab history when it was twelve to nothing after the 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: third quarter. Yes, and uh, and and you're on a 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: pace to hold the Patriots to one hundred and four 36 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: total yards for a Super Bowl, so there was records 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: to be you know, you were really gonna you know 38 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: what the conversation would have been this morning on the 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: national talk shows is is where does this defense rank 40 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: all time? 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: Right? 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: Uh? If you know, if you know, had they been 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: the only team to get the shut out, et cetera. 44 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: But they've still got a chance to chase that next year. 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: And you know, I for you know, I probably should 46 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 3: keep my mouth shut on this because it's not important, 47 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: but we as friends. I'll speak more as a fan 48 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: now than an analyst. I like this team more than 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: the twenty thirteen. I love the twenty thirteen. That was 50 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: a thrill. Cam Chancellor is my favorite Seahawk of all time. 51 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: If I had, I don't. I'm not a jersey wearing guy. 52 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: I think that's great if that's if that's your thing, wonderful. 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: I love to see all the jerseys. If I had 54 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: to wear a jersey, it'd be Cam Chancellor. But this 55 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: team is more, you know, particularly at the top Mike McDonald, 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: Sam Donal just straight up very simple. I like Mike 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: McDonald more than Bete Carroll, and I like Sam Donald 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: more than Russell Wilson. So I am I feel really 59 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 3: just viscerally connected from a rooting standpoint. I just thought 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: it was delightful on so many ways at that point 61 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: aside not necessary, But I don't know. This team is 62 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: so dog unlikable that it's just it's not just that 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: they're the Seahawks. I think many of you say, hey, 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: if you says Sea how Seahawks, that's the name of 65 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: your team, I'll like you, you know, unless you're almost 66 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: a complete band of knuckle hits. But these guys on 67 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: top of that make it so easy. There's so many 68 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: great storylines about the people that these guys are. You know, 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: I'm just write me down. I'm in for all of it, Hugh. 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 5: We have so many TV guys out there that are 71 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 5: prone to hyperbole. Chris collins Worth is not one of 72 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 5: those guys. And Chris collins Worth yesterday and the broadcast 73 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 5: said this defensive performance is as good as I've ever seen. 74 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 5: Talk about that comment, particularly coming from him, And do 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 5: you think it was a better defensive performance than forty 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 5: three to eight? 77 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question. I mean, you'd give the 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: nod to Denver in terms of their offensive formidability. And 79 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: now obviously Drake May you know, he comes in as 80 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: the run up to the MVP. This is not like 81 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: you're playing you know, Tony Easton Patriots or you know, 82 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: the I'm trying to think that I was going to 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: say Ravens Yeah, Kerry Commers, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kerry 84 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: collins in twenty yep. So I would say at the end, 85 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: you know, the the problem with the Super Bowl is 86 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: is that posterity is going to look at the numbers 87 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: and the problem for the run at history is that 88 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: you know, you gave up nineteen twenty five for two 89 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five yards in the fourth quarter alone 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: to Drake May. So I think that that's going to 91 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: hurt their their their image. But I think that what 92 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: they did when you consider that the Patriot running backs 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: had forty two yards rushing. When you consider that, as 94 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: we said, for three quarters Drake May. You know, I 95 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: was just sitting there thinking, Boston fans who've experienced Tom 96 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: I was thinking, how bad are they going to turn 97 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: on this guy right and just like write him off? Like, 98 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: oh this guy, you know, he's no Brady, like literally, 99 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: you know, the way Sam Darnold got turned off, you know, 100 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 3: shut off. I was wondering for the psyche of Drake 101 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: May and how he would survive in New England. I 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 3: mean they they made him look like, you know, just 103 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: a JV quarterback at a high school. I mean it 104 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: was just incredible the futility that they forced the Patriot 105 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: offense into. Yeah. 106 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: I said the same thing man that I don't want 107 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: to just discount what they did against Drake May. This 108 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: guy was the runner up in the MVP, and you said, 109 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: by what, Dick one vote? 110 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: Is that right? 111 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a legit MVP candidate that they 112 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: made look like a clown for three quarters in that game. 113 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: I mean, Heuey, the guy's numbers overall aren't terrible. He 114 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: went nineteen for twenty five for two thirty four, two touchdowns, 115 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: two picks. In the fourth quarter, he was eight of 116 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: eighteen for sixty one after three. I mean, this was 117 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: an ass kicking by this defense. But what struck me 118 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: about yesterday's game and I don't know how often they blitzed. 119 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: You can give us the numbers on that, but it 120 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: really felt like the blitzes were well timed. There was 121 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: one of them where I think New England had the 122 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: ball second and ten from like their own five yard line, 123 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: and they brought Nick off the left side Drake May's 124 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: right side, and he turned and found Stevenson in the 125 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: flat for a big game. Outside of that, I don't 126 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: remember the defense getting caught with their pants down on 127 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: many blitzes in that game yesterday. 128 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: No, not at all. I mean they blitzed a dB 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: at least one dB on ten plays. May was five 130 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: of ten for twenty two yards and interception had a 131 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: sack in there. The passer rating is sixteen point seven. 132 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: I mean, does that work for you? I mean they 133 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: dialed that up and you know, overall, if you'd just 134 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: say the total of times where they rushed, they had 135 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: they had seven seven times where they rushed more than 136 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: four what's commonly called the blitz. Well, they they gave 137 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: up a thirteen yard completion and a seven yard completion. 138 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: Other than that they were either incomplete, two incompletes, an 139 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: interception A well, I beg your pardon, there's a completion 140 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: for minus two, so we'll call that three completions and 141 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: then a sack of minus ten. That's how that's how 142 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: the numbers play out. Now they sound similar. The first 143 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: one I gave you is is what they did if 144 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: one defensive back or more blitz So those can be 145 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: simulated pressures. You can bring a dB, drop a defensive lineman, 146 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: you only have a four man rush. Technically that's not 147 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: a blitz. So that's the first number I gave you. 148 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: The second one, as I said, seven times they blitzed, 149 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 3: and you know they didn't get burned, you know, because 150 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: they they have a zone blitzing behind it. It's not 151 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: just a zone blitz, it's it's a more complicated zone 152 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: blitz than for example, the Patriots run Patriots running three 153 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: D three under. They ranted on that slant, for example, 154 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: to do injigba to the left sixteen yards. He kind 155 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: of dove it. The safety kind of reminded us of 156 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett. If you can remember that completion in the game, 157 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: that's a blitzing five three deep three under. Seattle does 158 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: it more with a two deep shell and the corners 159 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: are either gonna trigger down into the flat or they're 160 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: gonna sink and go and follow deep based on a 161 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: relatively complicated array of releases by the slot receivers so 162 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: so and the outside receivers. So they're they're blitzes are potent, 163 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: they're disruptive, they're creating havoc, they're producing the kind of 164 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: numbers that we're talking about, and yet they're not they're 165 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: not really putting themselves at risk because they steal. Hell, 166 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: they got two safeties back. You know, what are you 167 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 3: gonna do? You gonna hit a go route, Well, the 168 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: safety is gonna run over and make a play on 169 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: the side. They're gonna run a post runer, not with 170 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: the safety's on either half. So, so I think McDonald 171 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: is a general rule, feels like he's taking double bogie 172 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: out of a play. When he calls these and you 173 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: know he's getting Birdie after birdie, and and when and 174 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: then on the uh on when when Witherspoon comes in 175 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 3: on one of those blitzes, that would be one of 176 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: the occasions that it was both a dB rushing and 177 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: a blitz. 178 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 179 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not gonna call that a birdie. 180 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: That's an eagle if we're gonna carry out that analogy, 181 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 3: and and uh hella and albatross you get a uh 182 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: you know, a hit hit fumbel whatever the hell it was, 183 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: nuosu and and a pick six in the Super Bowl. 184 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 3: You know that's that's just kind of how Mike McDonald 185 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: dominated Josh McDaniel, who has six Super Bowl rings. You 186 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: look it up, all of Brady's Super Bowl rings for 187 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: the Patriots. Josh McDowell was coaching him in one form 188 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: or another and and was on that staff. So I 189 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: don't know, I just thought it was a clinic. Hugh. 190 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 5: You mentioned a couple months ago we asked you what 191 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 5: could derail this team and you brought out two things. 192 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 5: You said, this team will be derailed if the run 193 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 5: game breaks down and Sam Donald turns the ball over. 194 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 5: Why didn't the run game break down, And why did 195 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 5: Sam Donald only have four interceptions in his last ten 196 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 5: football games and becomes only the fourth quarterback to win 197 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl to not have any turnovers in the playoffs. 198 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, wonderful, right, Well, first of all, I didn't see 199 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: the late season you know, kind of finding of the 200 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: of the running game where they had a period of 201 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 3: four games where they averaged one hundred and seventy two 202 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: yards and it was relatively tightly dispersed. I think it 203 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: was a low of one sixty one and a high 204 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: of maybe one eighty. I'm somewhere in there. You know, 205 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 3: they're all right around that number, and they on the 206 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: outside zone. They used the athleticism of the of the 207 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: line as opposed to you know, being you know, uh 208 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 3: that their lack of physicality being a problem. They they 209 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: use their athleticism as a strength. And you know, four 210 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: of the guys, certainly three your center, left guard, left 211 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 3: tackle are are are very athletic by their position standards. 212 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: Right guard with Bradford not not not so much obviously. 213 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: And then and Abe Lucas is playing his ass off. 214 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: Maybe not as good athlete, but he's a he's got 215 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: a nice blend of athleticism and power with him and 216 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: and Uh, I think K nine, you know, he got 217 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: the fuel for you know, he looked like Roll Davis 218 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: in the last uh several weeks, you know, running that 219 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: outside zone. And remember Rick Dennison, the run game coordinated 220 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: for the Seattle now was the run offensive line assistant 221 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: for for the Broncos back in the mid nineties. Last 222 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: time there was a Super Bowl MVP from the running 223 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: back position in person of Terrell Davis. So I think 224 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: that they found themselves in that regard. And then Donald, Uh, 225 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: you know, part of it is learning that the personnel. 226 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 3: For example, they throw a h I think the last 227 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: interception Donald had was the slugo route against car at 228 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: Carolina where uh and and Donald's looking to his left, 229 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: there's pressure. There wasn't a great blocking scheme, but but 230 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: Injigba fakes the slant goes deep. He doesn't think he 231 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: can get on top, so he's kind of idling down 232 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: back shoulder due to the pressure. Donald is trying to 233 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: throw it to the back end zone. Well that's just 234 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: a misscom And and you say, how do they have 235 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: a miscom on this late in the season, Well, they're 236 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 3: only been playing together one year. I bet you when 237 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: they call a slugo next year that they'll be on 238 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: the same page. If if, if, if in Jigba thinks 239 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: he wants a back shoulder, I bet you Donald be 240 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: righting cue and just stab it right on his back shoulder, right, 241 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: you know. So there, there's there's, there's element of it. 242 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: It's year one in the system, year one of the 243 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: ufensive coordinator, year one with the quarterback, with all of 244 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 3: these receivers. 245 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Humillin's with us. And by the way, just a quick 246 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: note on Kenny Walker that you guys mentioned. Christian McCaffrey 247 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: this year went for two and twenty six total yards 248 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: seventeen touchdowns. The pace that Walker was on the last six, 249 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: by the way, would have been good enough for two 250 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: thousand and one eighty four and fourteen touchdowns over a 251 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: seventeen game season. Now, you guys stay healthy, obviously, I 252 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: get it right, But that's the production, that's the pace 253 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: that he was on the final six games. I want 254 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: to ask you, Hugh, for a game that I think 255 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: most of us felt fairly comfortable. You're always accounting for 256 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: the freak play, something wacky happens and gets the team 257 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: back in the game. There was only one moment really 258 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: where I kind of allowed myself to think, oh my god, 259 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: are we blowing this? And the Atlanta Falcons popped into 260 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: my head when they blew that lead against the Patriots. 261 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,359 Speaker 1: And that's when Drake May took off on that scramble 262 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: nine to thirty five to go fourth quarter to the 263 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: thirty seven yard line, up nineteen to seven, and then 264 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: two plays later it throws a pick and that was that. 265 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: Was there any moment in this game where you started 266 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: to get a tag nervous? 267 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: Well, Dick and I talked about that last night. You know, 268 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: I thought that that interception by Love was the play 269 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: of the game because, you know, just to recap you 270 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: and you did it right there. But Seattle had you know, 271 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: they had the nineteen point lead. Then the Patriots get 272 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: the the the what two three play drive, they go 273 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: to nineteen to seven. Then they make Seattle go three 274 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: and out, So now they've got some momentum. It's nineteen 275 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: to seven. If they go down and score a touchdown 276 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: here with the you know, at the ten nine to 277 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: ten minute mark, because they got the ball with ten 278 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: forty to go. Now it's nineteen fourteen they've got a 279 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: ton of momentum the News Titans on the Seahawk offense 280 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: that really that game really could have have taken abrupt 281 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: turn and uh and you look, if you're a Patriot fan, 282 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: that that played just you know, second and three, there 283 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: was no need for him to uh to force that play. 284 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: In May steps up in the pocket and you know 285 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: he kind of looked like maybe he got his arm 286 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: hit or what. At at any rate, he's throwing a 287 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: deep in route. And you know, I'll just credit the 288 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: zone defense where where there was a post to his 289 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: left and he had Julian Love on top of the post. 290 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: You have Kobe Bryant nailing down top down on the 291 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: the the inside in breaking route, the one closest to 292 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: the ball, and then the widest in breaking route. Uh. 293 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: Very interesting design from the defense where Witherspoon, instead of 294 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: having the flat where he had lined up, he exchanges responsibility. 295 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: Ernest Jones takes the guy in the flat and Witherspoon 296 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: drops diagonally back to get into the passing lane of 297 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: the deep dig and so so Drake May. He ends 298 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: up skymailing the ball because seattleogists gloves it up perfectly. 299 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just it's all over the tape, not 300 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: just this game, it's all over the tape all the 301 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: time with this defense where you look and you say 302 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: they're playing zone defense and they're tied to a string. 303 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: How many times have we heard that? Mike McDonald's say, 304 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: it's the communication and play, you know eleven as one, 305 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: you know, and those are nice, you know words and 306 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: nice goals, but the tape is what shows it that 307 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: it manifests, and it did on that play. I thought 308 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: it was the most important, the most important play of 309 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: the game. 310 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 5: Huge ass hadn't got ten targets, that's right on his 311 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 5: season average, but he only had four catches. Excuse me, 312 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 5: excuse me about I've been talking and yelling a lot 313 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: the last twenty four hours. Ten targets but only four 314 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: catches for twenty seven yards. What did they do to 315 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 5: shut JSN down? 316 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: Well, they are aware of where he is in zone 317 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: and they you know, they would jam him, They would 318 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: have defenders in his area in zone. They did some 319 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 3: traveling with Gonzales on him, you know, in the slot 320 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: on the perimeter, and and you know, Gonzalez is a 321 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: he's a hell of a hell of a player. And 322 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: and so I think in addition, you know, the pressure 323 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: on Donald. You know, we think of how much pressure 324 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: the Seahawks defense applied to Drake may Well, you get 325 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: on the NFL stat portal, they they said that may 326 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: was was pressured. He was QB pressure on fourteen downs. 327 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: There was fifteen against Donald. So Donald, actually, in the 328 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: eyes of the NFL, faced a little bit more pressure. 329 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 3: Darnald just did a better job of of, you know, 330 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: not letting the whole game unravel on him. In the 331 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: face of all that pressure. You know, he moved, moved, slid, 332 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: found some outlets, but I think in the face of pressure, 333 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: he didn't want to force the ball when in Jigbo 334 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 3: was really well covered. He had that boot left early 335 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: where he remember when he kind of lofted it on 336 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: the very first series of the game and he goes, Sam, 337 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: what are you doing right? Well, that ended up hitting 338 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 3: in jig but right in the hands. 339 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: That was a drop. 340 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: That's a drop. In fact, I got to look at it. 341 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: I think the NFL marked it as a drop, but 342 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 3: you know, I think it was just I think ever 343 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: since the four interception game at Los Angeles, I think 344 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold kind of realized, you know, everything they've been 345 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 3: saying about our defense is true, and I think that 346 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: he's just taken less chance. 347 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Right, Well, we got a lot more to get to man, 348 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: including the right guy win the MVP yesterday. 349 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: Here Millan more with him. 350 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Next after a Seahawk win in Super Bowl sixty. Congratulations Seattle, Lombardi. 351 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: Troe Fee is coming to town Wednesday parade eleven o'clock. 352 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: We'll have more details coming up next. On ninety three 353 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: to three KJRFM. 354 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: We never waver, Matt. We believe in each other. We 355 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: loved each other. 356 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: Now we're world championspil back to Suffi and Dick on 357 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 4: your home for the twelfth Man. 358 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: We got the best fans in the world. 359 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: Twelve Ors Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. 360 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: They set up to the twelve. 361 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: He's hit his own forty four. Then the winger quarterback 362 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 4: checking oven three in the gun, winds up one pass 363 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: down in the middle of a tenner checond half the 364 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: thirty odd line coming up the middle of the forty Look. 365 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: The return right here. 366 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: Now it's Julia Love and he's out about coming there. 367 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 4: Shuntline going into Patriot territory and he's knocking about. It's 368 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 4: about the thirty two. It's the second turnover by the 369 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 4: second year Patriad quarterback. 370 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: Freak me all right, wearing back on a championship Monday 371 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: parade Wednesday, by the way, starts eleven o'clock. They'll do 372 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: a pre parade ceremony. It's kind of flipped from the 373 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: last time. They're gonna do the trophy ceremony first at 374 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: ten o'clock at Looman, and then the parade starts at 375 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: Fourth in Washington on Wednesday, ending probably a couple hours 376 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: later over on Fourth and Sedar. 377 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: And yes, we will be there. 378 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: Hugh Millan rejoins us softie Dick Jackson with you until 379 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: seven o'clock tonight. Here, I want to ask you flat 380 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: out to the right guy win the MVP in this 381 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: game yesterday? 382 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I don't think there was any 383 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 3: one defensive player that you would have said, Okay, he's 384 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: got to have it. You know. The certainly could have gone, 385 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: you know, if you want to say Derek Hall. But 386 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: I think the impact on the game that Kenneth Walker, 387 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: you know, wasn't just the rushing yards, you know, the 388 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 3: big screen pass and and so yeah, if you want 389 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: to say, Jason Meyer, I think Myers if he had 390 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: hit longer, if he had hit a few bombs. You know, 391 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: I think a five field goal effort. I mean, I 392 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: can't imagine a field goal kicker being the MVP of 393 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: a game. It's gonna happen eventually, and so I think 394 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: it would have had to happen on longer field goals. 395 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 5: Clink Kobiak just coached his last game with the Seattle Seahawks. 396 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 5: How do you evaluate his last game here? 397 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: Well, he got some guys open. I think Donald will 398 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: kind of kick himself, you know. You know, I look 399 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: at Donald and and his game, and you know he's 400 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 3: at fifty percent a little over two hundred yards. You know, 401 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 3: he had a seventy five passer rating, and in that 402 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: regard he shares a distinction with Tom Brady, Pat Mahomes, 403 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning, and Ben Roethlisberger. In the last twenty years, 404 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 3: all of those quarterbacks have had passer ratings in the 405 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: seventies or worse during and in the midst of a 406 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: Super Bowl win. So sometimes you just got to know, Okay, 407 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 3: our defense is playing so great, just don't gum this 408 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: thing up. I would say the best play that he 409 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: had was remember this end of the second quarter we're 410 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: talking about Clint Kobiak. Yeah, he's got the ball on 411 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: the right HASH. He has what's an called an FTB 412 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: fate formation to boundary. He has three receivers into the 413 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 3: right side, balls on the right HASH. Again, he has 414 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba aligned to the left side. But 415 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: because the balls on the right Hash and Jigba was 416 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: about four yards inside the numbers, so we had a 417 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: lot of grass to the sideline that that Christian Gonzales 418 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: had to cover. But the way the Patriots pushed the formation, 419 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: there's a point you just freeze the tape. There are 420 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: five dbs that are on the outside of the right 421 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: hash just clogging up that FTB. That means there was 422 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: just a you know, it was like a grand canyon 423 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 3: full of space for Injigba to work. Christian Gonzalez, that's 424 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: obviously good on good, best on best and and because 425 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: of the alignment and the hash you had Jackson Smith 426 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: and jig but he could spray it starting to widen, 427 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 3: He nods to the outside, breaks across the face. That 428 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: should that should have been a walk in touchdown, and uh, 429 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: you know right at the end of the second quarter. 430 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: That's an offensive coordinator flat and just dealing. And uh, 431 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: and you know, there's there's many others I think that uh, 432 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 3: you know, Donald had several plays where he could have 433 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: he could have had a completion. He was close on 434 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: a on two long balls to uh Rashid Shaheed, you know, 435 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: and and uh, but you know, there's there's a couple 436 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: of things in that game that that you know might 437 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: not strike you. For example, might might not strike you 438 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: as tied together Sam Darnold all quarterbacks in this century, 439 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: of all winning quarterbacks, he had the highest number of 440 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: second and long passes second and seven plus he had 441 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: thirteen uh uh thirteen attempts. And then he also had 442 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: the third most attempts of twenty plus yards air yards. 443 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: So why am I saying that? First of all, Donald had, 444 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 3: you know, was facing some longer yarded situations and that 445 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: contributed that that helped the pass rush and all the 446 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: pressures that Donald was facing. But his willingness to throw 447 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: the ball down the field even though they didn't complete them, right, 448 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: it forces the Patriots to have to, you know, make 449 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: adjustments with their secondary, their coverages and what have you. 450 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 3: Because they're seeing that Donald had a willingness to go 451 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 3: down the field even though there was, you know, just 452 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: a couple of short misses. 453 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned it earlier in the conversation here 454 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: and here milling with us right here on ninety three 455 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: three KJRFM. I'm looking up a screenshot I've got on 456 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: my phone of attacks that I sent to Jackson and 457 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: Dick during the game yesterday. 458 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: I think it was right around. 459 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: Early it must have been mid third quarter nineteen nothing, 460 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: And I sent a text to both of you, guys. 461 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it, I'm not gonna tweet it, 462 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: but are you guys starting to think the same thing 463 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: I am about this defense? And I was thinking about 464 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: a shutout, That's what I was thinking about. And then 465 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: things kind of got a little bit out of control 466 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: as nineteen seven. Do you think, knowing McDonald he was 467 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: thinking at all about maybe making some history in that game? 468 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: Did that even remotely cross his mind at all? 469 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: Just don't know. I mean, we're learning about him. If 470 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: I were to guess, it would only be a guess. Yeah, 471 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: I would bet that he was that he is aware, 472 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: Like if you walked up to him right now and 473 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 3: said in the sixty Super bowls. How many setouts have 474 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: there been? I think you look right in your eye 475 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: without hesitations at zero yep, Whether he was thinking about 476 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: that when they switch sides on the field and they're 477 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 3: going into the fourth quart everybody's holding up four fingers 478 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: and he looks up the scoreboard, he said, do we 479 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: got to sign it this thing? You know? Even? Uh? Right? 480 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: Right right? So totally uh, you know, and yeah, I 481 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know. I mean, you know, he 482 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 3: might tell you, hey, yeah, I'm aware of that shutout fact, 483 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 3: but I wasn't thinking about that at all in that 484 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: moment at all. 485 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: Well where did they, guys? Remind me, where did the 486 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: touchdown for Denver come? It was mid early fourth quarter? 487 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 3: Is that right? 488 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to know if there's a team that's 489 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: got two Super Bowl victories where the opponent went longer 490 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: to get their first score than we did. 491 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: But I know this is. 492 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 5: Two of the top four leading longest in the game, right, 493 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 5: because we led from the first play in Super Bowl 494 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 5: forty eight, and we led from you know, two minutes 495 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 5: in in this game. 496 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: So the Patriots got their first touchdown twelve twenty seven 497 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: to go fourth quarter to make a nineteen seven, So 498 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: three quarters and change and then Peyton Manning and got 499 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: there's in the fourth quarter. I don't know if there's 500 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: a team that I mean, maybe Pittsburgh had no idea, 501 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: but this is People are gonna start comparing this defense 502 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: to twenty thirteen. Hell Andrews was in here during a 503 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: break even asking me and Dick about it. I know 504 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: it's your favorite team, you like the you like this 505 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: team better, but how does this defense, in your mind 506 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: compare to the lob Well. 507 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: I think the Lob accomplished too much for this the 508 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: dark Side to knock them off their perch, simply because 509 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: they're the only team in the Super Bowl era that 510 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: had four straight years fewest points allowed. That is a 511 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: hell of an accomplishment and something that obviously the dark 512 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: Side is only you know, twenty five percent of the 513 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: way they are if we're only going by that measure, 514 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: and it's a pretty good measure. So now there are 515 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: some analytics, some sabermetricians that can point to things like 516 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: EPA and they have had a run. I got to 517 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: update this, but I know that there was a run 518 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: late in the season where they're more most recent eight 519 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: or nine games in terms of e PA. That's expected 520 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 3: points added. It's a new kind of analytics. You know, 521 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into what it is. You 522 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 3: can google it, but it's it's a it's a high 523 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: correlation stat it's legit. And the Seahawks had a I 524 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 3: think it was a nine game stretch this year where 525 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: their total defensive EPA was better than any nine game 526 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: stretch in the entire history of the Legion of Boom. 527 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: So there are some things that can creep in there, 528 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 3: and and and if you want to do, uh, you know, 529 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: make an argument to a neutral jury, you've got some 530 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: evidence on your on your side to be able to 531 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: argue on behalf of the dark side. I just personally 532 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: feel like the Legion of Boom just accomplished a little 533 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 3: too much to knock them off so quickly. 534 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 5: And I know during that stretch, you they had a 535 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: negative EPA perse play against the run during that stretch, negative, 536 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 5: which is just. 537 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it depends on is it negative EPA 538 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: for the offense, you know, positive for the you know, 539 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: I've seen you know, people kind of twist it all around, 540 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: but but you know, it only takes a quick glance 541 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: at his list to say, hey, are you doing negative 542 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: or you're doing positive? So I've seen them both. But 543 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: the point is, yeah, against the run, you know yesterday 544 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: you take away the Drake May scrambles. I mean there's 545 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: a team that rushs for forty two yards. That's the 546 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: thing about the defense is they build a wall. And 547 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: those interior guys have such strength. I mean I've looked 548 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: them up, watched their their take. You know. You know 549 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: I've watched these big guys work out in a weight room. 550 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: You know, I know they squat, they deadlift, they power clean, 551 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: you know, they bench pressed, they they incline press, the 552 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: whole thing. And I would just say the Seahawk defensive 553 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: line is so strong and their legs, their upper body 554 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: and their core because the way they are holding I 555 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: don't mean holding in a sense of a penalty, but 556 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: the way they are just holding their ground and being 557 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: able to what's called gap and a half. They're in 558 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: a gap, but they're not trying to penetrate. Like let's 559 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 3: say they're in the B gap between the guard and 560 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: the tackle. They'll step, they'll hold their ground. They're looking 561 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: in the B gap, but they're not trying to penetrate, 562 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: and they're waiting to say, what do you want to do? Dude, 563 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: what do you want to do? I'm standing in the 564 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 3: B gap. If you try and go in the A gap, 565 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: they'll throw their lineman who happens to be three hundred 566 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: and forty pounds. They'll throw them all and then and 567 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: then converge on the running back in the A gap. 568 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: There there are feats of strength on a not just 569 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: game by game, but a play by play basis. Is 570 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: just on inspiring. 571 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: Denver scored that touchdown with three seconds to go in 572 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: the third quarter, left in the third by the way, 573 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: and might be onto something. Yeah, well, Curtis Crabtree just 574 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: sent me a text. Is a fifth time a team 575 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: has held scoreless going into the fourth quarter in Super 576 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: Bowl history, So sixty Super bowls and this was just 577 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: the fifth time ever happened. So I don't know, man, 578 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hell of an offseason as these 579 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: guys go for a repeat. You know, I mean they're 580 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: halfway to getting back what was robbed from them obviously, 581 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, eleven twelve years ago. 582 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: So we'll see great stuff, dude. 583 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: With the first Hey, let's let's go uh, pat Riley 584 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: with them. 585 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 2: Why not let's go repeat? Why not? 586 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: Oh you got it? 587 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 5: You got to pay pat Riley for saying that on 588 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 5: the air. 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