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Speaker 1: Butler County Commissioners, and they want to see whatever contract

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Speaker 1: Does where do you stand on that? Do the Butler

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Speaker 1: County Commissioners have the power to take this ICE cooperation

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Speaker 2: Look, we all work together, the commissioners do. And these

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Speaker 2: people have been protesting against the share me for over

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Speaker 2: twenty years. I went through five presidents. Obama deported more

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Speaker 2: than Trump has. And I've seen commissioners come and go.

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Speaker 2: I've seen judges come and go. I've seen presidents come

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Speaker 2: ICE contracts under President Obama. These people hate Trump so bad.

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Speaker 2: They and anybody that voted for Trump or supports Trump,

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Speaker 2: they hate us all. We're all racist, bigots Hitler. I

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Speaker 2: mean they sing songs, hey, good luck to them, and

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Speaker 2: so No, they've been and they're uptown protesting now. God

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Speaker 2: bless their little souls. And I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: Petest peaceful protest in Hamilton today, So no problem whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: No, the average age is probably seventy five. And they're

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Speaker 2: nice people. They hate me, they hate Trump, they hate

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Speaker 2: the police, they hate ice agents. They think the lady

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Speaker 2: that tried to kill an ice agent is a sweet,

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Speaker 2: nice lady. But they don't mention she tried to run

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Speaker 2: over and kill an ice agent and it was all justified,

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Speaker 2: bad but true. And that's where they come from. They've

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Speaker 2: been protesting their whole life. Daunts Democrat and it's okay,

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that a little bit. Renee Good

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, apparently she was involved in this ice watch

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Speaker 1: training and according to the New York Post, there's a

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Speaker 1: growing number of soccer moms who are getting involved in this.

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Speaker 1: I guess they get bored during the day so they

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Speaker 1: CAUs what they call a micro infatada. They talk about

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Speaker 1: things about breaking a grip, how to strike an officer

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Speaker 1: at them things like that. Do you encourage would you

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Speaker 1: ever urge any and not just soccer moms, but any

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Speaker 2: Look, this is real juicy to the media and these

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Speaker 2: sanctuary cities. I worked in the prison system seventeen years

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Speaker 2: and I used to watch inmates exercising on the yard

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Speaker 2: practice how to get out of handcuffs. They would practice

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Speaker 2: get behind a police officer. They practiced their techniques the

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Speaker 2: same thing that prisoners do. And these people are probably nice,

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Speaker 2: intention they hate Ice. They they didn't hate Ice when

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Speaker 2: President Obama was deporting more than President Trump did. They

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Speaker 2: didn't hate them then. They didn't hate them under Biden,

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Speaker 2: same people that they were deporting. And I know this

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Speaker 2: of the deportation of Sovice President Obama. Not a single protest.

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Speaker 2: But I'm okay, I love them the death. I pray

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Speaker 2: for them every day. And in this county where we live,

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Speaker 2: we're good. Hamilton County. Different story Sanctuary City Cincinnati. Then

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Speaker 2: you've got Columbus Sanctuary City, all the big city sanctuary cities,

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Speaker 2: and I encourage the illegals to go to those cities,

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Speaker 2: get their welfare, get the free stuff, and protest downtown there.

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Speaker 2: This is a very conservative area and we're okay with

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Speaker 2: and independents. If you want to know where I stand,

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Speaker 2: ask me. You'll know when you're done talking. You might

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Speaker 2: And that lady should not have tried to run over

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Speaker 2: I forget how many officers are killed every year. The

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Speaker 2: everybody else. And that officer was run over and killed

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Speaker 2: try to run over a police officer, they had no choice.

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Speaker 2: I demonstrated that stand in front of the car, he

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Speaker 2: And that officer will not be in dieted, will not

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Speaker 2: he was injured. That Marrafy's injured or not they try

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Speaker 1: Sorry, that's seems like that's pretty much the bottom line.

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Speaker 1: You know, sheriff around here, you're everybody's favorite sheriff. But

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Speaker 1: she threatened Tom Homan by saying, you don't want this

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Speaker 1: smoke is what this This sheriff in Philadelphia was saying.

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Speaker 1: When you encounter someone like Sheriff Rochelle Belaw in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: Listen, she's a goof. But that's who they elected in

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Speaker 2: those places Cincinnati, Hamilon County. You elect your commissioners, you

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Speaker 2: these other cities where you see these people on Pika,

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Speaker 2: that sheriff was elected in her county, and that's what

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Speaker 2: the people that elect her want her to say and do.

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Speaker 2: I don't pay an attention to what they say like that,

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Speaker 2: but that's the people they elect. And she's a goof.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't get elected there, she couldn't get elected here.

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Speaker 2: And she, I assume believes what she says, but she

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. They're going to make rest just like

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Speaker 2: we do. Ice comes in here we support them. If

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Speaker 2: But that's who they elect. Like I said, daytons to

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Speaker 2: not in Butler County. And these little protesters, God bless

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Speaker 2: they can get all angry, hate the police, they hate

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Speaker 2: all of us, but not here in Butler County. They

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Speaker 1: What's what's not to like that? Well, you've got you've

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Speaker 1: State Representative Christine Cockley, a Democrat from Columbus, Mark segrest

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Speaker 1: you serve them the Wardenburger, which I think we talked

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Speaker 2: No, they don't know. I referred to them when they

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Speaker 2: made that statement as the three Stooges, and that's really demoralizing.

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Speaker 2: The three Stooges. I said they were ignorant, which they are.

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Speaker 2: And the Department of Corrections the state said they're not

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Speaker 2: They prefer us not to use the Wardenburger, but the

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Speaker 2: state prison system uses the Wardenburger. If you get in trouble,

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Speaker 2: get the Wardenberger and uh, my price, you're is fine

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Speaker 2: with that. It's very healthy. It's like a veggie burger.

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Speaker 2: And don't come to jail. I don't get it. Put

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Speaker 2: And I'm inspected by everybody. The Grand Jury comes through

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Speaker 2: the health Department, there's I've been in back to Bobby

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Speaker 2: hundreds of times. I've been holding nice prisoners for over

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Speaker 2: twenty years. And I'm doing what needs to be done.

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Speaker 1: That is fantastic. That is fantastic. So you're saying, you're

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Speaker 1: not running a lakinta, You're not running a Hilton hotel.

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Speaker 1: You're running you're running out of prison. For God's sake,

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Speaker 2: Yes, they want us, like I said, to put a

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Speaker 2: chocolate on a pillow, and oops, we don't have pillows

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Speaker 2: their mattress. And when you come into jail, as far

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Speaker 2: the inmates are laughing and listen to burger ain't past.

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Speaker 2: It's got a lot of fiber in it helps you

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Speaker 2: poop if you need the poop and old.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, Sheriff Jones, I'll tell you what it's. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, I think I've got the ingredients right here.

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Speaker 1: We've got tomato paste, flour, dry milk, oats, beans, ground turkey.

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Speaker 1: So you got some meat in there. You got some cabbage,

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Speaker 1: you got some carrots, potatoes, onions, celery and do you

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Speaker 1: put a little bit of salt on there and a

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Speaker 1: the wardenburger so that uh. I'll tell you what, if

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I ate half of mine in front of

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Speaker 2: the camera two days ago. It's not bad. It got

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Speaker 2: a little crunch to it. It's not bad. It's no

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Speaker 2: different than going to a restaurant and getting a meatless

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Speaker 2: or a vegetarian burger. I date them. I think burger

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Speaker 2: king sells them. Hey, you get all You get that

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Speaker 2: three times a day and all the water you can drain. Listen,

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Speaker 2: don't get in trouble in the jail. The only way

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Speaker 2: do to control them? Have no discipline, and that's what

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Speaker 2: they do. They train these people to disrupt ice, and

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Speaker 2: this won't be the last time somebody gets injured or

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Speaker 2: Ice has to use deadly force when they attempt to

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Speaker 2: I could go on. Just here in this county. I

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Speaker 2: have spinal surgery. He don't care. He's been arrested three

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Speaker 2: times for being drunk. One of them was in Westchester,

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Speaker 2: and Westchester police chief, you know, his policy is to

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Speaker 2: turn them loose. And because he, the Westchester Police Chief,

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Speaker 2: turned him loose. What happened. She wrecked. This guy wrecked

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Speaker 2: would and that she'd have never been injured. But the

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing we when we see these stories

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Speaker 1: that's the victim who usually has a life changing event,

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Speaker 1: and most of the time it is not for the better.

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Speaker 1: But Sheriff Jones, thank you as always for the time.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the great work, Keep up the relationship that

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Speaker 1: you have with Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. You are leading

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Speaker 1: the way here in southwest Ohio and in all of

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Speaker 1: Ohio and in much of the country. And we can't

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Speaker 1: thank you enough for what you do. And I always

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Speaker 1: love having you on here on seven hundred ww Hey.

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Speaker 2: Like I say, I do my part. And to the

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Speaker 2: people that are listening, don't listen to what the media

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Speaker 2: says when they get these people all juice stuff. Like

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Speaker 2: I said, the people that are here protesting, I pray

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Speaker 2: for them and bless their little souls.

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Speaker 1: Sheriff Jones here the best. We'll hopefully talk again before

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Speaker 1: too long. Sheriff Richard K. Jones of Butler County and

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Speaker 1: his relationship with ICE isn't going anywhere. Twelve fifty five

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW