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Speaker 2: Last day, we are live at Oracle Park in San Francisco,
Speaker 2: after the Giants hand the Dodgers their first shutout loss
Speaker 2: of the season, three to nothing, the final score here
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. Welcome the Dodger Talk David Vase with
Speaker 2: you until ten thirty tonight here on AM five to
Speaker 2: seventy LA Sports, your only home for the Dodgers and
Speaker 2: the back to back World champion Dodgers. And tonight a
Speaker 2: disappointing night because the Dodgers offense continues to struggle.
Speaker 3: They are just.
Speaker 2: Hitting one seventy seven with runners in scoring position on
Speaker 2: this road trip. They've only scored one run in the
Speaker 2: first two games of this series. And look, I'll just
Speaker 2: make it really simple. Why the Dodgers have struggled on
Speaker 2: this road trip. Their bullpen has given up fourteen earned
Speaker 2: runs in fourteen and a third innings. Their offense has
Speaker 2: not been very good outside of Max Munsey, Miguel Rojas,
Speaker 2: and Dalton Rushing, who's not even playing every day tonight.
Speaker 2: Tae Oscar Hernandez hitless again. He's two for twenty on
Speaker 2: this road trip with six strikeouts. Kyle Tucker zero for
Speaker 2: four again. He's five for twenty three on this road
Speaker 2: trip and has seven strikeouts. He's hitting two thirty three
Speaker 2: on the season with an OPS of six to seventy six.
Speaker 2: He's not getting on base like the Dodgers envisioned when
Speaker 2: they had him hit second. And maybe that's a question
Speaker 2: to ask at the end of the next homestand is
Speaker 2: Tucker the number two hitter? Maybe when Mookie Betts returns,
Speaker 2: the Dodgers will evaluate where they're at with this lineup,
Speaker 2: because right now, Tucker, as Dave Roberts said, is lost.
Speaker 2: He's not having good at bats. It's one thing to
Speaker 2: not get results, but he's not having good at bats.
Speaker 2: His on base percentage is three twenty, his OPS is
Speaker 2: six seventy six. Not to mention Sho hey Otani told
Speaker 2: me in Toronto a couple of weeks ago that April
Speaker 2: is not really his month and he doesn't really feel
Speaker 2: like he's in a good spot offensively. He expects to
Speaker 2: be much better in the month of May. But right now,
Speaker 2: after tonight's game, O'tani oh for four at the plate,
Speaker 2: two fifty eight, batting average ops of eight point fifty four,
Speaker 2: and again struggling on the night that he pitches. O'tani,
Speaker 2: after going oh for for tonight, is just hitting two
Speaker 2: to three in sixty four at bats. As a pitcher
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers, the night that he pitches, he's sitting
Speaker 2: two oh three, and uh, we'll hear from Dave Roberts
Speaker 2: in a moment, but O'tani was phenomenal. I don't want
Speaker 2: that to overshadow what he did as a pitcher and
Speaker 2: what he's doing on the mound this year. His ERA
Speaker 2: in four starts is zero thirty eight. I'll repeat that show.
Speaker 2: Hey Otani in his first four starts twenty five innings
Speaker 2: has an ERA of zero thirty eight, and his whip
Speaker 2: is zero seventy five. Six more scoreless innings tonight, seven strikeouts.
Speaker 2: His sweeper was outstanding. His fastball was hitting one hundred
Speaker 2: miles an hour consistently, and he had command of one
Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour, which was even more impressive. What
Speaker 2: he did tonight was flat out nasty. Otani. The picture
Speaker 2: is nasty this year. Otani, the hitter is luke warm
Speaker 2: right now, and his on base streak ends at fifty
Speaker 2: three games. After going zero for fortnight without a walk.
Speaker 2: He struck out once, saying, look, there's a debate to
Speaker 2: be had about whether or not the Dodgers need to
Speaker 2: have an open conversation about whether or not Otani should
Speaker 2: hit on the nights that he pitches, because there's enough
Speaker 2: sample size now to at least consider it. We saw
Speaker 2: what he did in his last start when he was
Speaker 2: out of the lineup. He was dominating. He had ten
Speaker 2: strikeouts and six innings against the Mets. Tonight he was
Speaker 2: outstanding again as a pitcher. But he's thirty one years old.
Speaker 2: He's not twenty eight or twenty seven anymore. He's thirty
Speaker 2: one years old. And his season's not in in September
Speaker 2: like it did with the Angels. It ends in November.
Speaker 2: You know, Dusty Baker came into the radio booth to
Speaker 2: see Rick Monday, and as I was walking with him
Speaker 2: down the hallway to show him where Rick was, we
Speaker 2: were talking about Otani and he said, he is unbelievable
Speaker 2: tonight as a pitcher. But when I was managing the
Speaker 2: Houston Astros in the same division with him, when he
Speaker 2: was with the Angels, he's a different hitter when he pitches.
Speaker 2: He's not as imposing as he is when he's not pitching.
Speaker 2: And that's coming from a Hall of Fame manager and
Speaker 2: Dusty Baker who saw him a lot on the other
Speaker 2: side with the Astros. And before today's game, I presented
Speaker 2: all these facts to Dave Roberts about whether or not
Speaker 2: that is something that he would consider Otani would consider
Speaker 2: moving forward, about not having him lead off or DH
Speaker 2: on the nights that he pitches.
Speaker 4: We haven't had the conversation, you know, it's still yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that if you look at the
Speaker 4: overall numbers, it's certainly something I still feel really good
Speaker 4: about putting his name in the lineup. I know, the
Speaker 4: last start I chose not to have him hit and
Speaker 4: just pitch, and I am open to it, you know,
Speaker 4: and you know, we'll see, but it's something that we've
Speaker 4: certainly flagged, but I think overall we've still you know,
Speaker 4: And also you have to look at what's the different
Speaker 4: what's the option, And I think in years past or
Speaker 4: last year you got to kind of weigh who's a
Speaker 4: different option. Well, now at least you can you can
Speaker 4: say that daland swinging a good bat and to keep him,
Speaker 4: you know, consistently getting some at bats could be helpful.
Speaker 4: But like I said, I'm going to continue to keep
Speaker 4: an eye on it.
Speaker 5: Would there be another discussion about keeping in the lineup,
Speaker 5: but maybe not having him lead off on these days?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think everything should be on the table. But again,
Speaker 4: you got to look at what's the alternative. And so
Speaker 4: for me, I don't like having conversations that are open
Speaker 4: ended that you don't have an alternative, you know, for tonight,
Speaker 4: what's the alternative?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: And if I'm not trying to get into a discussion,
Speaker 4: but those are things that people can pose questions unless
Speaker 4: you have an alternative. For me, I don't really pay
Speaker 4: too much attention.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't could other players that you have in your lineup,
Speaker 5: maybe you've talked about in the past getting them off
Speaker 5: their feet, and you don't really have that option anymore
Speaker 5: with him being.
Speaker 4: The dah Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah, I mean again,
Speaker 4: this is something that these are the thought of him,
Speaker 4: you know, not hitting on daisy pitches, all that stuff.
Speaker 4: I understand the questioning and so I'm keeping in mind.
Speaker 4: But you know, even today against Mainlee, I still feel
Speaker 4: very good about show heo Tani taking five at Bets tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't work out tonight with Otani going up
Speaker 2: against Tyler Mally. Mally went seven scoreless innings tonight. O'tanni
Speaker 2: was zero for four with a strikeout. And look, I
Speaker 2: do have an alternative. When Mooki Betts returns. I would
Speaker 2: have Mooki Betts be the leadoff hitter on the nights
Speaker 2: that Otani's pitching. I would have Freddie Freeman be the
Speaker 2: DH on the nights that Otani is pitching. So he
Speaker 2: didn't ask me what my alternatives were, but I do
Speaker 2: have alternatives, and those would be my alternatives. When Mookie
Speaker 2: Betts returns, I would have Mookie Betts, who was one
Speaker 2: of the greatest leadoff hitters this game has ever seen
Speaker 2: for the majority of his career until Otani got to
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. I would have Mooki Betts leadoff, and when
Speaker 2: Mooki Betts comes back, I would consider having Mookie Betts
Speaker 2: be the number two hitter behind Otanni because right now
Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker is not looking comfortable being the number two hitter,
Speaker 2: and Freddie Freeman is thirty six years old. I would
Speaker 2: get Freddy Freeman off his feet and have Freddy Freeman
Speaker 2: be the DH on the nights that Otani is pitching.
Speaker 2: And when Otani pitches, he's outstanding. I mean, he has
Speaker 2: been one of, if not the best pitcher in Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball this year with everything that I laid out,
Speaker 2: and tonight may have been his best performance on the
Speaker 2: mound as a Dodger. Jose Mota covered every one of
Speaker 2: his starts when he was pitching for the Angels, and
Speaker 2: he even said tonight was the best he'd seen and
Speaker 2: this is the best version that he has seen from
Speaker 2: show Heyotani the starting pitcher. He's phenomenal, and I don't
Speaker 2: want the struggles offensively tonight and as a pitcher with
Speaker 2: the Dodgers to take away or overshadow what he did
Speaker 2: on the mounta tonight. He was herculean on the mound tonight.
Speaker 2: But the reality is he's human. I know we don't
Speaker 2: want to acknowledge that, and maybe he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: ignore knowledge that, but he is human. He's thirty one
Speaker 2: years old. By the way, the recovery now is probably
Speaker 2: a lot tougher than it was when he was twenty six.
Speaker 2: And like I said, the Dodger season doesn't end in September.
Speaker 2: It ends in November the last two years, and he
Speaker 2: was a major part of it. And here's something else
Speaker 2: to consider. Jeff Passon's latest podcast is a sit down
Speaker 2: with the two managers in last year's World Series, John
Speaker 2: Schneider and Dave Roberts.
Speaker 3: Now it's an hour and a half long.
Speaker 2: I don't have that much time to commit in one sitting,
Speaker 2: but I could tell you this the part that I watched.
Speaker 2: John Schneider talked about walking Otawni intentionally four times during
Speaker 2: that eighteen inning game in Game three of the World Series,
Speaker 2: and part of his thought process was was to keep
Speaker 2: Otani on his feet that entire eighteen inning game because
Speaker 2: he was starting the very next day. And Dave Robert
Speaker 2: said that Otani received ivs after Game three and that
Speaker 2: eighteen inning game to be able to start the next day,
Speaker 2: so even Dave Roberts is conceding it's taking a lot
Speaker 2: out of him to start and hit in these type
Speaker 2: of type of circumstances. I'm not just making this stuff up.
Speaker 2: This is these are all facts. O'tani only has two
Speaker 2: home runs and is hitting two oh three as the
Speaker 2: leadoff hitter and dhing when he starts, and that's sixty
Speaker 2: four at bats and that's not even counting the postseason.
Speaker 2: Eight six six eight seven two five seventy is the
Speaker 2: phone number? Would you have Otani not DH on the
Speaker 2: night that he pitches? Who would you have leadoff? Who
Speaker 2: would you have DH? I gave you my suggestions. Eight
Speaker 2: sixty six eighty seven two five seventy is the phone number.
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Speaker 2: now to here from the man himself, the greatest player
Speaker 2: on the planet, show Hey O Tani on sports at
Speaker 2: LA show.
Speaker 7: Hey, when you look at just this audience, clear you
Speaker 7: had all of your stuff right, Hey, can you describe
Speaker 7: just navigating through their lineup and being so efficient tonight?
Speaker 3: Not towelve one for you?
Speaker 8: Got that so good? Tell them, let's way about them shop,
Speaker 8: It's okay.
Speaker 3: Get it.
Speaker 8: Felt really good overall. I just hope that I was
Speaker 8: able to get into the seventh and that sixth inning.
Speaker 8: How did you find just kind of the stuff playing?
Speaker 8: So we obviously saw the emotions with that final strikeout, Yeah,
Speaker 8: double down the line. Thankfully the run didn't score, so
Speaker 8: it was a big out for me to be able
Speaker 8: to get that punch out.
Speaker 7: Talk about wanting to get into the seventh, then, I mean,
Speaker 7: what do you think the neatest from your side to
Speaker 7: be able to get back out there? And just I
Speaker 7: guess pitch count was that ninety three, But to put
Speaker 7: yourself in a position to push more.
Speaker 9: Hi, Hi cont.
Speaker 8: Just considering the game score, it was really important to
Speaker 8: give the first run of the game, so I was
Speaker 8: really focused on that. Now if we if I had
Speaker 8: the lead, lead, then I think I would have been
Speaker 8: able to, you know, pitch the contact and reduce the
Speaker 8: pitch count. But today it was just reading the situation,
Speaker 8: the game score. I just had to prioritize on getting
Speaker 8: you outs.
Speaker 2: All right, there's show Hey o Tani on sports net LA.
Speaker 2: Wondering if there was more to that press conference than
Speaker 2: those three questions, because I'm curious to know whether or
Speaker 2: not anybody has show Heyo Tani, whether or not his
Speaker 2: hitting is being is not as good as when he pitches,
Speaker 2: and whether or not he's open to that conversation of
Speaker 2: not hitting on the knights that he pitches. So we'll
Speaker 2: see whether or not there's more to that coming up
Speaker 2: later in the show. Eight six six seven, two five
Speaker 2: seventy is the phone number.
Speaker 3: Let's go out to.
Speaker 2: Bill and Mission Viejo. You're on Dodger Talk with David
Speaker 2: veasse Hi.
Speaker 10: Bill, Hi, thanks for taking my call. I agree with
Speaker 10: what you said about the lineup. It makes a lot
Speaker 10: of sense. And also I was going to comment Patrick
Speaker 10: Bailey he got him last year too with the Grand
Speaker 10: Slam and the tenth inning off Tanner Scott.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's becoming a kind of a
Speaker 2: thorn in the Dodgers' side the last two years, and
Speaker 2: for me, it's just it's.
Speaker 3: Hard to swallow. Losing to the Giants.
Speaker 2: A but b having the number nine hitter beat you,
Speaker 2: even if it is Patrick Bailey who hit that grand
Speaker 2: slam off of Scott last year.
Speaker 10: Right, I agree with that, and then I just hopefully
Speaker 10: the offense will come around a little bit tomorrow. They've
Speaker 10: done well against web before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I you know what the way baseball works,
Speaker 2: Bill is The Dodgers have only scored one run against
Speaker 2: subpar pitchers in the first two games of this series,
Speaker 2: and tomorrow they're facing Logan Webb, and who knows they'll
Speaker 2: come out and score four or five runs against him.
Speaker 2: That's just the way baseball works, all right, Thanks for
Speaker 2: a phone call, Bill appreciated. Eight six six nine eight
Speaker 2: seven two five seventy is the phone number. Dodgers fall
Speaker 2: to the Giants tonight by a final score of three
Speaker 2: to nothing. And you heard o'tani talk about the double
Speaker 2: down the line hit by Rafael Devers and Matt Chapman
Speaker 2: was held up at third base. It kind of hit
Speaker 2: the cut of the wall. If it gets into the
Speaker 2: corner down the right field line, Chapman scores easily. But
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you send Chapman in that situation? You know,
Speaker 2: I don't see Casey Schmidt doing much damage against Otani
Speaker 2: in that sixth inning, and I proved to be right
Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour, two sweepers and he was
Speaker 2: struck out to end the inning. So if I was
Speaker 2: the third base coach, I would have sent Matt Chapman.
Speaker 2: But as Dino Eble likes to say, there is no
Speaker 2: yellow light. It's either green or red, and we don't
Speaker 2: know where the ball's going, we don't know how it's handled.
Speaker 2: But for me, with the situation two outs and Casey
Speaker 2: Schmidt coming up again show hal Tani, I'm sending Matt
Speaker 2: Chapman in a scoreless tie on that play. Eight sixty
Speaker 2: six seven two five seventy is the phone number. Let's
Speaker 2: go out to AZUSA. James, you're on Dodger Talk with
Speaker 2: David vasse Hi.
Speaker 3: James.
Speaker 6: Hey, Davey, I've been listening the last few days, and
Speaker 6: I agree with you. I agree with you. They're taxing
Speaker 6: Otani too much. You know, you know it's almost live.
Speaker 6: We all know he could do it all, there's no doubt,
Speaker 6: and he does it well. And I'm speaking I'm not
Speaker 6: even a Dodger fan, and just to let you know,
Speaker 6: but we all know he could do it all. But
Speaker 6: he's heading for the injury list if at this rate,
Speaker 6: and they're going to lose him long term at this rate.
Speaker 2: Now you don't know that, James. Now, I'll pump the
Speaker 2: brakes right there. And Otani has a big say in
Speaker 2: all this. So it's not the Dodgers pushing him to
Speaker 2: do something that he doesn't want to do. He has
Speaker 2: a huge say in all this. And you don't know
Speaker 2: that he's going to the injured list. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: that it's harder for him to bounce back recovery wise,
Speaker 2: and the numbers prove out as a hitter the night
Speaker 2: that he pitches with the Dodgers that he isn't the
Speaker 2: best hitter on the team those nights.
Speaker 11: Well, it's almost like he's the cook and he's got
Speaker 11: to serve the food and he's got to wash the
Speaker 11: dishes and he's doing everything.
Speaker 6: You can't do it all.
Speaker 11: He's got to focus on one thing.
Speaker 6: Like all the other ballplayers. I know, he sets he's
Speaker 6: a part, he's a he's a different kind of breta player.
Speaker 11: But most guys are concentrating on one side of the
Speaker 11: game and he's doing too much.
Speaker 6: And I agree with you, and I hope, I.
Speaker 2: Hope if you're not a Dodger fan, and I appreciate it,
Speaker 2: good call. If you're not a Dodger fan, what fan
Speaker 2: are you? Who's whose baseball team do you love?
Speaker 6: Well, Dave, I'm born and raised in San Francisco. I'm
Speaker 6: not even a Giants fan, but I lived in ten years.
Speaker 6: I lived ten years in Denver, so I am a
Speaker 6: Rockies fan. But regardless, I'm just standing up for your
Speaker 6: player here. I hate to see you lose a good
Speaker 6: player midseason, end of season, but they're He's.
Speaker 3: In great shape.
Speaker 2: He puts in a lot of work, He's in great shape.
Speaker 2: You know, injuries possible with any player, James, and when
Speaker 2: you're fatigued, yeah, there's a greater risk of that, but
Speaker 2: the Dodgers do a great job of monitoring all that.
Speaker 2: So I don't see him at any more of a
Speaker 2: risk for injury considering how much work he puts into
Speaker 2: his body and how much care he invests in his
Speaker 2: number one money maker, and that's his body, and other
Speaker 2: players should take, you know, notes on how he's able
Speaker 2: to do all this and seemingly not blink an eye.
Speaker 2: But like I said, Dave Roberts said in the pass
Speaker 2: And podcast after Game three that eighteen in an inning affair,
Speaker 2: Otani needed ivs and he also said will Smith needed
Speaker 2: ivs as well. Uh, to be able to play the
Speaker 2: next day and for Otani to pitch Game four of
Speaker 2: last year's World Series. Let's go out to San Diego. Charles,
Speaker 2: You're on Dodger Talk. How are you doing, Charles?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 8: Pretty good.
Speaker 12: We've been doing a lot better if you actually could
Speaker 12: score some runs. But I'm just calling the same Uh
Speaker 12: it was the last two callers. I agree with you
Speaker 12: one hundred about about the lineup. Uh, A lot of positives.
Speaker 12: You're gonna have Mookie bets, you know, in the lineup,
Speaker 12: Dalton Rushing and Freddie Freeman in the same lineup, and
Speaker 12: Alston will Smith.
Speaker 3: So that's a lot of power.
Speaker 12: Firepower you're getting Dalton rush more plenty time on top
Speaker 12: of it. So, and I actually agree with you with
Speaker 12: Mookie leading off on the days that he uh he
Speaker 12: tiny pitch it. I actually advocated for Guesst a couple
Speaker 12: of years back when Attorney first came to the Dodgers,
Speaker 12: but I got a lot of flak for keep me
Speaker 12: mentioned on social media.
Speaker 6: So but.
Speaker 3: All right, Charles, well, thank you for the phone call,
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And look, yeah, we all forget about Mookie Bets because
Speaker 2: he's been on the IL and the Dodgers started the
Speaker 2: year with him hitting third. Albeit he was off to
Speaker 2: a slow start, but it was only the first two
Speaker 2: weeks of the season. But when you ask me what's
Speaker 2: my solution to having Otani not hit on the nights
Speaker 2: that he's pitching, it's Mookie Bets leading off, and it's
Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman as the DH. Eight six six eight seven
Speaker 2: two five seventy is the phone number. We have lines
Speaker 2: open if you want to weigh in, what would you
Speaker 2: do if Otani's not in the lineup when he pitches?
Speaker 2: Who would be your DH? Who's leading off? Eight six
Speaker 2: six nine eighty seven two five seventy is the phone number.
Speaker 2: When we continue live from Oracle Park, we'll take more
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. We'll give you a Blake Snell update.
Speaker 2: He was in San Jose tonight, and also you'll hear
Speaker 2: from the Bulldog oral her Scheizer shared some great memories
Speaker 2: of pitching against the Giants in their old ball park,
Speaker 2: Candlestick Park more Dodger Talk until the bottom of the
Speaker 2: hour live from San Francisco right here on AM five
Speaker 2: seventy LA Sports. Were the Giants shut out the Dodgers
Speaker 2: tonight three to nothing.
Speaker 1: On air at AM five to seventy, online at amfive
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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. This is Dodger Talk with David Bassam.
Speaker 2: David Basse live at Oracle Park in San Francisco, after
Speaker 2: the Giants shut out the Dodgers tonight by a final
Speaker 2: score of three to nothing, the first time the Dodgers
Speaker 2: have been shut out this season. Jack Dryer gave up
Speaker 2: a go ahead three run home run to the number
Speaker 2: nine hitter Patrick Bailey, and that was the swing that
Speaker 2: did the Dodgers in tonight three to nothing, especially with
Speaker 2: their offense being nonexistent again tonight. Only three Dodgers had
Speaker 2: a hit tonight. Freddy Freeman had two, Max Munsey and
Speaker 2: Miguel Rojas each had one hit. Only three Dodgers had
Speaker 2: a hit tonight, Max Munsey, Freddie Freeman, and Miguel Rojas.
Speaker 3: And the Dodgers are shut out tonight three to nothing.
Speaker 2: So just want to say thank you to Jack Harris
Speaker 2: from the California Post, who was downstairs with shoe Hey Otani,
Speaker 2: and he did ask Otani if he would be open
Speaker 2: to not being the DH the nights that he is starting,
Speaker 2: And here is what O'tani said. Quote, I'll always let
Speaker 2: the manager make the final decision, and I'm always going
Speaker 2: to be prepared that when I'm starting, I'm hitting. But
Speaker 2: if it makes sense as a team to occasionally put
Speaker 2: a guy in as a d or hit later in
Speaker 2: the lineup, is what he's saying. That's fine as well.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to say more side from that, all right?
Speaker 2: End quote that's from Show Hey Otani. Nine eight seven
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Speaker 2: seventy is the phone number The Dodgers going to wrap
Speaker 2: up this seven game road trip tomorrow afternoon as they're
Speaker 2: going to face Logan Webb. They'll have Tyler Glass now
Speaker 2: on the mound as they look to salvage the final
Speaker 2: game of this series in San Francisco after losing the
Speaker 2: first two and splitting four in Denver. And don't discount
Speaker 2: that part of it. The Dodgers were in Denver in
Speaker 2: the mile high altitude for five days. A three game
Speaker 2: series will take a lot out of a team, but
Speaker 2: an older team, and the Dodgers, on average age are the.
Speaker 3: Oldest team in baseball.
Speaker 2: Five days and a four game series in Denver at
Speaker 2: Corsfield will take a lot out of you, not only
Speaker 2: during that series, but also the residual effects the following series.
Speaker 2: So just I'm not making an excuse, it's just the
Speaker 2: reality of things. It's something too that has played into
Speaker 2: all this as well. The Dodger bullpen has not pitched
Speaker 2: well on this road trip. Fourteen and a third innings,
Speaker 2: they have given up fourteen earned runs. Eight sixty six
Speaker 2: nine eight seven two five seventy is the phone number.
Speaker 2: Blake Snell, who was here at Oracle Park yesterday, took
Speaker 2: a car down to San Jose earlier this afternoon to
Speaker 2: pitch for the Ontario Buzz Towers the Single A affiliate
Speaker 2: for the Dodgers, as they were taken on the Giant Single,
Speaker 2: a affiliate in San Jose, and Blake Snell went one
Speaker 2: plus innings tonight with one urn run, no strikeouts, one walk,
Speaker 2: and he threw thirty two pitches.
Speaker 3: I was watching. I went back to watch his start.
Speaker 2: There were a couple of errors behind him at first
Speaker 2: base and at third base that got his pitch count up,
Speaker 2: or he probably would have finished two innings at the
Speaker 2: very least. But because of those errors his first rehab start,
Speaker 2: thirty two pitches one plus innings was enough and his
Speaker 2: fastball was hitting ninety five ninety six. So that's a
Speaker 2: really good sign for his first rehab start. And I'm
Speaker 2: still a believer that he can come back sometime in
Speaker 2: mid May, and certainly the Dodgers could use him. Two
Speaker 2: time Cy Young Award winner, and he is itching to
Speaker 2: come back, and once he comes back, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: no looking back. He is going to dominate. And can
Speaker 2: you imagine a rotation the rest of the year with
Speaker 2: the way glass now and otanius pitching glass now. Otani Yamamoto,
Speaker 2: who's pitching outstanding, went seven innings yesterday, and then you
Speaker 2: add Blake Snell in, and you know, if you're gonna
Speaker 2: go with a six man rotation, you have to make
Speaker 2: a decision on Roki Sasaki. Is he going to stay
Speaker 2: in the rotation? Are they going to try to iron
Speaker 2: out some issues of strike throwing somewhere else? I think
Speaker 2: Roki Sasaki has until snell returns to prove that he
Speaker 2: could throw strikes and make the game move along because
Speaker 2: he has too many guys standing behind him for way
Speaker 2: too long because he can't throw strikes. Eight six, seven, two,
Speaker 2: five seventy is the phone number Dodgers shut out by
Speaker 2: the Giants tonight, three to nothing. A guy that knows
Speaker 2: a lot about this Dodgers Giants rivalry, oral Herscheizer, who
Speaker 2: is at the center of so many brewjajas between the
Speaker 2: Dodgers and Giants in the eighties, and here at Oracle Park,
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and Giants don't know how good they have
Speaker 2: it because at the old ballpark the Giants played at
Speaker 2: when they moved West Candlestick Park, it was ugly, especially
Speaker 2: at night. The wind, the coal, the trash on the
Speaker 2: warning track, it was nasty. And I asked oral Herscheizer,
Speaker 2: earlier today. What his memories were of pitching against the
Speaker 2: Giants in old Candlestick Park.
Speaker 13: Well, I loved Candlestick Park because I loved playing the wind.
Speaker 13: It was another element where you could win the game.
Speaker 13: And so if the wind was off my left cheek,
Speaker 13: there were other certain pitches that would do certain things.
Speaker 13: If it was off my right cheek, there were certain
Speaker 13: pitches that would do certain things. I would rather throw
Speaker 13: a hanging curveball and have Matt Williams hit it into
Speaker 13: the wind than to throw my best pitch ever low
Speaker 13: and away and now he hits it to right center
Speaker 13: where the wind was gusting out. I always followed the
Speaker 13: hot dog wrappers. I always talked to my infielders and
Speaker 13: outfielders about the wind, and I always looked at that
Speaker 13: place as a place that even though it was cold
Speaker 13: and it was rainy sometimes and it was you know, windy,
Speaker 13: those elements made it a next level for somebody who
Speaker 13: wanted to think and how to win the game, and
Speaker 13: those kind of elements that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I've never heard any pitcher say those things to their strata.
Speaker 2: As far as the wind coming on one side of
Speaker 2: your face to the other, that's just who oral herscheiser was, Well.
Speaker 13: If it's coming off my right cheek, it would accentuate
Speaker 13: my curveball and make the break bigger. And if it
Speaker 13: was coming off my right chick with my sinker, it
Speaker 13: would make it go more straight down. And it was
Speaker 13: coming off my left cheek, it would make my sinker
Speaker 13: flatter because it wouldn't have any wind to bite against.
Speaker 13: But it would also then make my curveball go more
Speaker 13: straight down, So it would change the pattern of the pitches.
Speaker 13: And in doing that, then you apply that to the hitter.
Speaker 13: Then you apply that to the wind direction in the outfield.
Speaker 13: And what field do I want them to hit it
Speaker 13: to the left side of the right side, and you've
Speaker 13: got a better chance of getting them out?
Speaker 2: All right, Here's the one question every Dodger fan wants
Speaker 2: to know. What was it like facing Will Clark? Was
Speaker 2: he a tough guy for you to face?
Speaker 6: He was?
Speaker 13: But that's where I loved using the wind. I mean,
Speaker 13: they were a tougher team to pitch to in Dodger
Speaker 13: Stadium because they had some great hitters that could spray
Speaker 13: the ball over the field. Like Will, he could pull
Speaker 13: the ball for power, he could go the opposite field
Speaker 13: of power. But when you're in candlestick and the winds blow,
Speaker 13: I forced him to hit it into the wind.
Speaker 2: Hey, great stories by Oral Herscheizer, and certainly knows what
Speaker 2: it's like to pitch in this rivalry when it was
Speaker 2: at the highest points in the seventies and eighties, coming
Speaker 2: off you know, the Jan Marischal, Don Drysdale, Johnny Roseboro
Speaker 2: days of the sixties. And look, I know they always
Speaker 2: show the replay of Juan Marischal hitting Johnny Roseboro over
Speaker 2: the head with a bat, and look, that was the
Speaker 2: boiling point, and that's when Dodgers and Giants really hated
Speaker 2: each other. They made such a big deal about Dalton
Speaker 2: rushing last night, saying, you know, F Kim, you know
Speaker 2: F jung Huli, Right, that was nothing compared to what
Speaker 2: we used to see back in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2: And Oral Herscheizer, Mike Marshall, Pedro Guerrero, all those guys
Speaker 2: were at the center of it. And you know it
Speaker 2: was it was way more hostile between these two teams
Speaker 2: than it is right now. And if you want to
Speaker 2: hear our full conversation with the bulldog Oral Hersheizer, you
Speaker 2: can find it on the iHeartRadio app. Eight six six
Speaker 2: nine seven two five seventy is the phone number Dodgers
Speaker 2: shut out by the Giants tonight, three to nothing. Let's
Speaker 2: go back out to the phones, Jose and al Monty.
Speaker 2: You're on Dodger Talk with David Vasse.
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going, sir?
Speaker 3: Where are you?
Speaker 14: Why?
Speaker 15: I'm in I'm in ups hurt, I'm a ups or I'm.
Speaker 1: Enrolling right now?
Speaker 3: Nice? Nice, I have a friend that's a that's a
Speaker 3: big time ups guy.
Speaker 10: Oh awesome.
Speaker 3: All right, So you're listening to Dodger Talk while you're
Speaker 3: loading up your truck.
Speaker 16: Yes, sir, he obvious, the game, everything, everything, anything for
Speaker 16: I can just to my Dodgers.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what do you what you think about tonight?
Speaker 2: What do you think about Otani on the nights that.
Speaker 15: He pitches, Oh, Patty, when the night he pitches, I
Speaker 15: think he's arrest because I think he's doing too much.
Speaker 15: If he's not doing too much, that something in the
Speaker 15: game and him could talk about.
Speaker 16: And only he knows his body, he knows his limits.
Speaker 16: And his father did tell him before the seasion started,
Speaker 16: gave him a letter tell him, Hey, you're getting older father,
Speaker 16: time's gonna catch up.
Speaker 15: You think he still could do me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know about that open letter in a Japanese
Speaker 2: newspaper that his father wrote to him. He did say
Speaker 2: maybe time to start thinking about playing the outfield and
Speaker 2: not pitching.
Speaker 3: So good for you, Jose to know all about that
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 16: Oh, I know. I listened to every little detail of
Speaker 16: daughters Sir.
Speaker 2: All right, Jose, thank you for the phone call.
Speaker 3: You're juggling a lot of things out there. What can
Speaker 3: Brown do for you? Jose?
Speaker 2: Eight sixty six nine seven two five seven is the
Speaker 2: phone number. Dodgers shut out by the Giants tonight, three
Speaker 2: to nothing, and the offense just hasn't been there consistently
Speaker 2: on this road trip. Outside of Max Munsey, Miguel Rojas
Speaker 2: and Dalton Rushing, not much of anything from anybody else,
Speaker 2: including show Hey Otani even on the nights that he's
Speaker 2: not pitching. And with the Dodgers, they are just hitting
Speaker 2: a bucks seventy seven with runners in scoring position during
Speaker 2: the first six games of this road trip, nine for
Speaker 2: fifty one, while the Rockies and Giants have combined to
Speaker 2: hit three hundred against the Dodgers with runners in scoring position.
Speaker 2: Let's go out to Pasadena. David, you're on Dodger Talk.
Speaker 2: How you doing, David?
Speaker 11: I'm doing great.
Speaker 14: How are you, sir?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great.
Speaker 14: Good. I love listening to you. I've been a Dodger
Speaker 14: fan long time. I'm sixty nine years old, and I listen.
Speaker 14: I don't know if I could squeeze in two questions
Speaker 14: on two subjects, but the first one, I mean, we
Speaker 14: always talk, okay, we always talk about the Dodgers. This
Speaker 14: will prove I listened to you closely. I'd like to
Speaker 14: know how David Vassey candled the altitude in Denver because
Speaker 14: you talked about having to break open the oxygen canister
Speaker 14: in your hotel room and submitting your right.
Speaker 6: You had to submit your reimbursement built to the station.
Speaker 3: That's right. You do listen, You do listen. You are
Speaker 3: a loyal listener.
Speaker 2: I had to crack open that oxygen tank and I
Speaker 2: took three to five hits for three consecutive days. The
Speaker 2: altitude hit me and look. I talked to Max Munsey today,
Speaker 2: who was supposed to be our pregame guest, and he
Speaker 2: said he just wasn't feeling it. He said he was
Speaker 2: still feeling the after effects of the altitude, So it's
Speaker 2: not just when you're there, it's after you leave as well.
Speaker 2: There's a residual effect. And look, Monsey's thirty five. Freddy
Speaker 2: wasn't there the whole time, but ta Oscar Hernandez is
Speaker 2: thirty three. You know, I just think it hits skies differently,
Speaker 2: and being there for five days is a lot, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I did not do well with the
Speaker 3: altitude this time, but I'm not playing.
Speaker 14: Are you better now? Are you? Are you still feeling it?
Speaker 3: No, I'm feeling better. I'm feeling like myself today.
Speaker 14: Glad to have you back. Can I ask you? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 14: Can I ask you a pitching rotation question?
Speaker 1: Real quick?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 14: So so look I don't have my calculator on me
Speaker 14: right now. That's a joke, but I mean obsessively. We
Speaker 14: have eight starters, I think seven or eight starters, but
Speaker 14: I mean smell Zilla coming back. I know he's your boy,
Speaker 14: that's great, love him. Two cy Young Awards.
Speaker 6: We all know who he is.
Speaker 14: So my question to you is, I know Sasaki is
Speaker 14: the wobbly one, but wouldn't another one have to go
Speaker 14: to to the bullten? I mean, isn't either Shehan or
Speaker 14: I'm I mean Robleski. He's earned it. I mean I
Speaker 14: would be stunned if they don't let Robeski stay there.
Speaker 14: I mean, the guy's phenomenal. So Sasaki wobbly. Then you
Speaker 14: got either she Han or help me. I don't write
Speaker 14: it down on paper. There's one more.
Speaker 3: No, you got it.
Speaker 2: It's either it's either either you take out Robleski or
Speaker 2: she Han or Sasaki when when Snell comes back, because
Speaker 2: they are sticking with a six man rotation, so one
Speaker 2: of those guys is the odd man out. And look,
Speaker 2: Robleski has pitched great, Shehn has been inconsistent, and Roki
Speaker 2: Sasaki has not been throwing strikes, and he just doesn't
Speaker 2: look good and he doesn't seem to have a lot
Speaker 2: of confidence. So you know, he may be the odd
Speaker 2: man out for the time being until he gets things
Speaker 2: on track.
Speaker 14: I mean Robuski has that bulldog look I got. I
Speaker 14: mean he has that oral herscheizer kind of like a
Speaker 14: track mode. Then going. I love it.
Speaker 2: He fills up the strike zone and his teammates consistently
Speaker 2: say that they love playing behind him because he works quick,
Speaker 2: he keeps them involved, and he throws strikes, and I
Speaker 2: feel like that's sometimes a message sent to Roki Sasaki
Speaker 2: and some of their other pictures that don't do it
Speaker 2: as well, because you don't want guys flat footed playing
Speaker 2: behind you while you got Roki trying to throw strikes.
Speaker 14: Yeah, Roki looks very uncertain to me, not that I'm
Speaker 14: any expert, but he just doesn't look comfortable in his
Speaker 14: own skin.
Speaker 2: If you will, yeah, well, on the mound, I would say,
Speaker 2: for sure. I think he's comfortable in his own skin,
Speaker 2: but not on the mound. Hey, David, thanks a lot
Speaker 2: for the phone call and thank you for being a
Speaker 2: loyal listener. And even Dave Roberts said before Sasaki's last start,
Speaker 2: when I asked him does he know what to expect?
Speaker 3: And he said, I don't. I don't know what to expect.
Speaker 2: So if the manager doesn't know what to expect, how
Speaker 2: are we supposed to expect a certain level of performance
Speaker 2: from from Roki? So when Snell comes back, I do
Speaker 2: believe the Dodgers will have to make a decision between
Speaker 2: Sheehan and Roki Sasaki. And look, Robleski is continuing to
Speaker 2: pitch well, and I don't see any reason to take
Speaker 2: him out of this six man rotation. Eight six six
Speaker 2: ninety seven two five seventy is the phone number. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I gave that phone number out because
Speaker 2: we are wrapping things up now.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow we will have Tyler Glass now on the mound.
Speaker 2: He's undefeated two and zero with an ERA of three
Speaker 2: twenty four, going up against Logan Webb, who's two and
Speaker 2: two with an ERA of five to ten. Some say
Speaker 2: Logan Webb has been the biggest victim of the automated
Speaker 2: strike zone because he usually got a lot of pitches
Speaker 2: on the buffer area, the buffer zone of the strike
Speaker 2: zone on the edges, and he's not.
Speaker 3: Getting those calls anymore.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what version of Logan web we get
Speaker 2: tomorrow against the Dodgers. Our coverage begins at eleven thirty
Speaker 2: with first pitch at twelve forty five Morongo Casino Dodgers
Speaker 2: on deck. Rick Monday and Steven Nelson on the call
Speaker 2: tomorrow from San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Thanks to coling Ye.
Speaker 2: Back at our Burbank studios, Thanks to Dwayne McDonald out
Speaker 2: here at Oracle Park in San Francisco, and thanks to
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Speaker 2: The final score tonight from San Francisco. The Giants hand
Speaker 2: the Dodgers their first shutout loss, free to nothing, Fox
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