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Speaker 1: The fan, welcome some great shows to Mystic Lake Amphitheater. Leonard,

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Speaker 1: skinnerd and Thorner will be there August sixteenth, Motley Crue

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Speaker 1: August twenty. First you complete details on all of our

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Speaker 2: Alan Horton is coming up at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 2: Johnny Athletic is in our target Center Cage location. But

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Speaker 2: now good to have you back. Big game, traditional rivals,

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Speaker 2: your Chicago Bulls, your Chicago They're really not my bulls anymore.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I guess I could name a few, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think i'd even really name that many. They they they

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Speaker 2: strike me as one of these meandering franchises. They had

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Speaker 2: a stretch earlier in the year, people go, maybe they're

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Speaker 2: figuring it out, haven't When they kind of come.

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Speaker 4: Back to the pack at this Yeah, they start out

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Speaker 4: five to one and you're thinking, okay, this is all right.

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Speaker 4: But then since then they're just right back where they

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Speaker 4: and just yeah, meandering is.

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Speaker 3: The perfect do we want.

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Speaker 2: You've clearly concluded after you panicked after our most recent

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Speaker 2: performance that there's no point in equivocating any longer. Tim

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Speaker 2: Conley is obligated to add a piece at the very

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Speaker 2: least to help scoring off the bench, maybe to be

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Speaker 2: a bit of a scoring point guard, which would be wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Even better would be a two way player.

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Speaker 2: So do we have do they have anybody that we

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Speaker 2: might be eyeing or not?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is going to be an

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Speaker 4: interesting game because three names that you hear circulating around

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Speaker 4: wolves Land are Kobe White, iod Soon MoU and Trey Jones.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you think, will geez, what do you

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Speaker 4: want three different players from a five hundred team?

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Speaker 3: But I think individually each.

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Speaker 4: One has a skill set that could fit in well

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Speaker 4: think those three guys are definitely in the mix of

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Speaker 4: and get before the deadline.

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Speaker 2: How close are they? You know Mike Conley very well.

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Speaker 2: We've had him on, we usually have him.

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Speaker 3: We've had him on for several years, basically about it

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Speaker 2: How close do you think they are just saying we

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Speaker 2: love you, we love what you've represented, but we gotta

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Speaker 3: Are they close to that? Do you think? I'm not?

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Speaker 4: I don't think Dan, because you know, Chris Finch just

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Speaker 4: one of the options behind him was rock solid. Bones

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Speaker 4: Highland has had really good moments, but then he's also

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Speaker 4: Shannon is injured, and so there's not an a one

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Speaker 4: obvious answer right there to go with. I think you

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Speaker 4: But Chris Finch, just in times of trial, always leans

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Speaker 2: Do we have any interest in reacquiring Karl Anthony Towns

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Speaker 2: because it appears he might be available or at cheap price.

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Speaker 2: I mean there are other players on other teams that

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Speaker 3: Yes. So if we assume.

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Speaker 2: That we're not all that interested in any of the

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Speaker 2: a subtle move, right. It would be a player that

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline? Reminded very fifth? So that's not that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like ten days.

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Speaker 2: And give me some other names that you think that

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So like to start off with, I don't think

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Speaker 3: I would be surprised. I will say this, like almost

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Speaker 4: Like they would try to jump in just like every

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Speaker 4: but in the absence of that, and even maybe because

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Speaker 4: then you're looking at other players out there, like a

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Speaker 3: I like him, and he might he be available.

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Speaker 4: So he might be available because they he's on the

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Speaker 3: Kind of plan D or E. Right.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people have asked about Malik Monk.

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Speaker 4: Like when they make the deal, you would be like,

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Speaker 4: give you a little more consistency and just gives you

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Speaker 4: more depth, especially if Shannon is not going to be

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Speaker 3: As as things go along here.

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Speaker 2: Let's revisit Nikiel So when we look back, because he's

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Speaker 2: obviously been very success very good in Atlanta. The assumption

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Speaker 2: I think we all had at the time was, well,

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Speaker 3: You can't bring all these guys back.

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Speaker 2: As we look back on it now, is that true

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Speaker 2: Did they not maybe fully appreciate what he represented, especially

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Speaker 4: so none of that has really changed, even though Nikil

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Speaker 3: It's that none of the none of.

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Speaker 4: These guys have emerged because Julius Randol has been a

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Speaker 3: This stands out because no one wing was where they were.

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Speaker 4: Deepest and at least where we thought, and those guys

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Speaker 2: another segment with Johnny. We've got Alan Horton coming up

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's all fair in terms

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Speaker 4: Definitely a huge positive for the Vikings to be able

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Speaker 4: Soon, Warriors come on Saturday and Monday, and that bucket buckets. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So there's an opportunity to make up some ground.

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Speaker 2: You and the head coach on speaking terms and went

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Speaker 4: Well, he I would not be surprised at all for

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Speaker 4: But he is he believes in what he's doing, and

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Johnny, stay warm.

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Speaker 3: When did that kick in? That's a great question.

441
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's it's like I said, it's throughout

442
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 5: the league now almost one hundred percent of the time.

443
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 5: You know, you just can't. You just can't have any

444
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 5: downtime where you just maybe pump in the effects like

445
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 5: the sneakers and stuff. I mean, that's what's so great

446
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 5: about radio and TV is you could hear those effects.

447
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 5: You can hear the players barking at one another, you

448
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 5: can hear the coach yell at the official sometimes not

449
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 5: to their liking, but it's it's it's a great way

450
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 5: to bring people in that I think we missed when

451
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 5: when when people are in the arena, they don't quite

452
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 5: they see it going on, But this this stunned me

453
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 5: years ago.

454
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: So I don't watch. I don't.

455
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Speaker 5: I haven't had a chance to go to an NBA

456
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 5: game in a long time. But in Portland a couple

457
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 5: of years ago, I had a friend there and we

458
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 5: knew some people. We got down close, like three rows

459
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 5: array on the baseline. It was as closest I've ever sad,

460
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 5: But I couldn't hear anything, and I'm like, wait, where

461
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 5: are the squeaking? Where's the effects? I came to the

462
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 5: ball with you the net. I see guy's mouths moving,

463
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 5: but I can't hear any words. And that was being

464
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 5: three rows away.

465
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

466
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 5: And so that's one thing I love about I've always

467
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 5: loved about sports on the radio. Yeah, you know, whether

468
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 5: it's the NFL sounds, hearing the quarterback barking the signal,

469
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 5: it is fantastic.

470
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: I can't get enough of that stuff.

471
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 5: Sometimes we'll lay out during free throws because sometimes those

472
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 5: guys that they use that as an opportunity to yell

473
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 5: at each other and sultans.

474
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: It gets a little salty.

475
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 5: But you know, you know the FCC, they I pass

476
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 5: along the fines to the appropriate people.

477
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: That's how you're used to that at this point. All right,

478
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: so we've not chatted in a while. What are we

479
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: halfway through the season?

480
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 3: Past that? Past the halfway point? Past the halfway point.

481
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: So if someone is a casual fan that during football

482
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: season doesn't follow this team as closely, give me the

483
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: Alan Horton summary about how you would sum up the

484
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: Wolves season to this point.

485
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 5: I would say before the Utah game the other night,

486
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 5: the Wolves would have been in fourth place. Yeah, they

487
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 5: won that game. That was that was a costly loss

488
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 5: for a lot of reasons. But also you jump, you

489
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 5: dropped from fourth to seventh in the standings, even though

490
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 5: it's very tight and there's still only a half game

491
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 5: out of fourth, right, but say they're in fourth place,

492
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 5: you're right where you want to be. You want to

493
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 5: be a top four seed. It is on a similar

494
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 5: type path to what we saw last season. I think

495
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: the year before was the elite level that the Wolves

496
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 5: were at. They were battling with Okac and Denver for

497
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 5: that first, second or third seed. But on a very

498
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 5: similar path to last year, and for a good majority

499
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 5: of the season, you're seeing a lot of the things

500
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 5: that the Wolves were able.

501
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 3: To do last year.

502
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 5: And get to the Western Conference Finals, which you know,

503
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 5: especially when you beat a Oklahoma City and you beat

504
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 5: I haven't beaten Denver this year, but the Game of

505
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 5: Christmas was an exceptional game. So I think it's been

506
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 5: a really good start to the season, especially with the

507
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 5: track record they built over the last two years.

508
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: The biggest change, obviously, is the decisions made really, I

509
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: think almost in the eve of the season, I think,

510
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: even a little bit maybe to the surprise of Mike

511
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: until they approached it with him.

512
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: We're moving Dante.

513
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: To the starting lineup, and basically we're admitting largely that

514
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is our de facto scoring point guard or

515
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: if you're playing a lot of that role. So what

516
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: did you think of that move then, and how would

517
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: you say it has played out?

518
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 5: I was surprised because you went into preseason thinking that this.

519
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 5: You look at the roster, you see how it shapes up,

520
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 5: you see the track record the last two years, and

521
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 5: it's been with Mike at the point guard spot, and

522
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 5: then it didn't. You know, preseason is always a little

523
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 5: funky because some guys are sitting out. You never really

524
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 5: got I think everybody playing, you know, in any of

525
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 5: those six games and so okay, you still thought Mike

526
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 5: Comley is gonna be your starting point guard, but perhaps

527
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 5: they saw something that that that led them to believe,

528
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 5: you know what, we can maybe foresee where this is

529
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 5: going with Mike, and we want to cut this off

530
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 5: and start to develop the chemistry with the starting five

531
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 5: and move Dante into the starting lineup. You know, like

532
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 5: you said, you're you're without a true point guard there.

533
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 5: But Anthony Edwards is just he's raised his game and

534
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 5: so many other levels. There's no reason to think he

535
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 5: can't handle even more and and and and have the

536
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 5: ball in his hands more. We've seen him take that

537
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 5: next step in clutch time too, where he's just been

538
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 5: so elite this year. He just continues to improve every

539
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 5: single year. And if you were to chart it on

540
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 5: a graph, I think it's the straight line moving upwards.

541
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 5: It's just it's really quite amazing how special he is.

542
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 5: But the starting lineup was was a change and a

543
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 5: shock I think to start, and it turns out I

544
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 5: think it's been the right decision based on the way

545
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 5: Mike has been up and down this season and and

546
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 5: and inconsistent, especially with his shot, which is starting to

547
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 5: starting to fall off, you know, this last month or two,

548
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 5: which is which is tough to see because anybody who's

549
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: been around Mike and you've talked to him enough to

550
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: know that he's first class, a one person player.

551
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: Everything, he's just he is awesome.

552
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: How much of the change do you think had to

553
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: do with a belief that de Vincenzo might be one

554
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: of those players who, for whatever reason is just more

555
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: energized or is you're gonna get you have a better

556
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: chance to get the best out of what he has

557
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: to offer.

558
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: If he's starting as opposed to off the bench, I.

559
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 5: Think he probably still would have gotten big minutes and

560
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 5: gotten his shot. I think at times the Wolves get

561
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 5: away from Dante a little too much. You know, there's

562
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 5: there's a three or four minute stretch where he doesn't

563
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: get a shot off, and I think, you know, Chris

564
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 5: Finch always talks about, you know, when he's shooting more

565
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 5: like when he's shooting ten or more.

566
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: Three's a game.

567
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 5: That's a big number, right, But when he does, he

568
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: shoots about forty five percent of those shots, and it

569
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 5: obviously ties into you're shooting it, well, you're getting more shots,

570
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 5: you're getting more minutes all of that, but I still

571
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 5: think he could have could have come off the bench

572
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: and still gotten up. Is he would have still played big,

573
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: big minutes.

574
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: Are you the the you know?

575
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: And again there's always the danger of overreacting to a

576
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: single outcome like the Utah game.

577
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: But I felt all along that.

578
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: Conley Tim Conley's approach, I think is sometimes you know,

579
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: almost under the radar, and that the assumption that the

580
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 2: only kind of move he can make is a big

581
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: one with a name that you know is front page

582
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: that we all recognize isn't doesn't necessarily do justice to him,

583
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: even though he has done some big, high visibility moves.

584
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: That given the way Dante is now in the starting lineup,

585
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: given Mike's struggles, given that neither of the two young

586
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: guys who I think at the end of last season

587
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: we felt like, Okay, this is gonna some one I'm

588
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: gonna have to step up, and by god, I think

589
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: at least one of them might. Will you be surprised

590
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: if this team doesn't make what we might be viewed

591
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: as a medium move that at the very least would

592
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: give this club or the head coach another scorer off

593
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: the bench.

594
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: I think so.

595
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 5: I think there that you talked about with John Krasinski

596
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: is I think there are some guys deeper on some

597
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 5: rosters out there the twenty nine other teams that that

598
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: you could acquire and it wouldn't take a huge hurdles

599
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 5: to try to make it happen.

600
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: The biggest hurdle with not.

601
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 5: Pulling off a superstar for superstar move is the fact

602
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 5: that the matching up of the salaries and you know,

603
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 5: worrying about the second apron and all that type of

604
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 5: stuff that kind of prohibits these high spending teams from

605
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 5: pulling off those kind of deals. I do think that

606
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 5: there's probably somebody out there, and you guys talked about

607
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 5: some names that might be gettable, especially from teams that

608
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 5: are headed in the other direction and maybe don't foresee

609
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 5: a future with that particular player. You know, the fact

610
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 5: that Nas has been so good off the bench this year,

611
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 5: but here's an interesting stat like, he has scored forty

612
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 5: two percent of Minnesota's bench points this year. That's a

613
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 5: huge number. It's only been done two or three times

614
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: in the last twenty twenty five years, but it speaks

615
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 5: to how good Nas has been. But it also speaks

616
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 5: to the fact that there hasn't been a lot of

617
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 5: help around him.

618
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: And you mentioned two guys.

619
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 5: I really at the end of last season couldn't wait

620
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 5: for the fo this year for Jalen Clark and for

621
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: TJ Shannon.

622
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: I really thought.

623
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 5: They were ready to get maybe twenty minutes a night,

624
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 5: fifteen whatever, somewhere in that range, because I just I

625
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: thought those guys were really good in their roles last

626
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 5: year and ready to take that next step. It hasn't

627
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: worked out with the injuries for TJ and Ja. Clark

628
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 5: has had some moments, but inconsistent, and so you're really

629
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 5: left and then with Mike's struggles coming off the bet, you.

630
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: Just don't have a lot of firepower there.

631
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 5: And Bones Highland is the one guy who provides some burst,

632
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 5: but that has not been as consistent. Nas has been

633
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: that consistent force almost on that leabase.

634
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: What is your theory on why it's been such a

635
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: battle for Dillingham to you know, emerge as a guy

636
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: who was, you know, very people including me, very excited

637
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: about the inquisition when we got him.

638
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: In the draft.

639
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: You could like it. I think we had Mike and

640
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: Norri on the other day and he said he likens it.

641
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: To the quarterback position. That it might be that it's

642
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 2: going to take him three years, it might take longer.

643
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: And the obvious.

644
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: Sticky wicket is this is a team that's good enough

645
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: that it can't afford to let him just play through

646
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: mistakes the way if the Wolves were Charlotte, you could

647
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: probably you know, a bad team, you could probably do

648
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: So where has it not worked for him? And and

649
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: they're probably not a way forward for him this year

650
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: at this point is there?

651
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 5: I mean, it's tough to it's tough to forecast the future.

652
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 5: The bottom line is like there are so many different

653
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 5: paths and avenues and who's blocking who in terms of

654
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 5: where there might be playing time. It's all just boils

655
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: down to starring, starring in your role. And for him now,

656
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 5: he's got to get better at practice. He's got to

657
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: impress a practice, be solid, do the things that Chris

658
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: Finch is looking for. And there's the door is still open.

659
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 5: It's it's not like it's been shut on Rob Dillingham.

660
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 5: He got an opportunity first twenty games of the year.

661
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 5: They gave him that twenty game stretch and it wasn't

662
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 5: good enough. It wasn't consistent enough. And he's just not

663
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 5: ready at that point to take whatever minutes that Chris

664
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 5: Finch is willing to deal out on a nightly basis.

665
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 5: You have to be you have to win those minutes,

666
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: and sometimes it's tough because you're getting judge on plus

667
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: minus and you're out there with four other people. But

668
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 5: he loves guys they can go out there and not

669
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 5: lose the minutes that if it's four, if it's seven,

670
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: if it's you've got to win those minutes, and too

671
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: often it was inconsistent with Rob and Boonens is sort of.

672
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: Towing that line. Now.

673
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 5: He's been really good in the rotation for the last

674
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 5: twenty one games when you look at it, but there

675
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 5: are some nights where it's better than others, and that's

676
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the hard part. That's where Nas has

677
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 5: become so valuable and makes you realize how tough it

678
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 5: is to come off the bench and be consistent every night.

679
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 5: And Nas has kind to the point in his career

680
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 5: where he can do that. Robin and most of the

681
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: other guys on the bench have not done that yet.

682
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 5: And I think the other thing with Rob two is

683
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 5: just he's still so young and he's not had a

684
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 5: lot of consistency in his life since high school, and

685
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 5: he's bounced around from different high schools. He's one year

686
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: at college. He's always moved around. This is the first

687
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: time in six or seven years that he's been in

688
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: the same spot two years in a row. And it

689
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 5: may take a little bit more time, but the door

690
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: is open there. And when you perform well in practice

691
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 5: and you doing the Stay in Shape League they call

692
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 5: it CISL after the practices and stuff, those things matter

693
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 5: when you're trying to work your way into the rotation.

694
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 5: He's got to be better in those areas to try

695
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 5: to impress.

696
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: Chris Finch, the Voice the Wolves, Alan Horton joining us

697
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 2: from our target center cage location, give me your sense

698
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: of the Western Conference landscape, because we had was it

699
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: two weeks ago? I think we had Tom crean on

700
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: and he towards the end of our discussion, he gave

701
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: us a kind of a tantalizing observation where he which

702
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: I didn't really delve into because frankly, we were up

703
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: against the clock at that point, but he seemed to

704
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: open the door to a belief that maybe the Western

705
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: the Western Conference is always good, but maybe that it's

706
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: not quite the meat grinder that there might be more

707
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: of an opening than people assume. Do you see that

708
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: you do you view the Western Conference any differently now

709
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: than you did at the start of the season.

710
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 5: I think I do because I think the struggles that well,

711
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 5: the quote unquote struggles of Oklahoma City. You know, they

712
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 5: went what five hundred during a ten game stretch, that

713
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 5: that's for them struggles. But one of those losses was

714
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 5: to Minnesota, and they played really well to win that game.

715
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: And they've matched up well against an Antonio.

716
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 5: Those last two games against the Spurs have been those

717
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 5: fourth quarters are as good as it gets with with

718
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 5: superstars for each side, lead changes, all of that.

719
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: Wolves have played well.

720
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 5: Want winning two or three against San Antonio Houston to

721
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 5: me did not impress me much. They still beat the

722
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: Timberwolves the other night that was that was last weekend,

723
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 5: and they uh, you know, the will shot awfully at

724
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: the at the free throw line, turnovers in the fourth

725
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 5: quarter all that. I so I look at the upper

726
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 5: echelon of the Western Conference and there's no reason to

727
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 5: think I know that this team can compete with those teams.

728
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 5: Can they beat them in a seven game series? We'll

729
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 5: that that's what we'll have to find out. So I

730
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 5: do think, I do think is more open than that.

731
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 5: I really thought, Okay c was gonna be the runaway

732
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: with the West and they may. You know, they're they're

733
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 5: up comfortably on San Antonio now, but but I think

734
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 5: they might be vulnerable and Jalen Williams injury situation that's

735
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 5: been big for them, and then San Antonio has been

736
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 5: a surprise. But I think they've got some struggles down

737
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: the stretch. They have Wemby and then Darren Fox and

738
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 5: I think other questions after that. So I think the

739
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 5: Wolves are right going to be there in that mix.

740
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 5: And what they can't afford to do is have losses

741
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 5: like the other night that drop you down out of

742
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 5: kind of out of the top six. And you know,

743
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: that's where Chris Finch has been so good through the years.

744
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: I was just looking this up this afternoon, is that

745
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 5: the Wolves have lost three in a row. They've only

746
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 5: lost one. Well, they only had one four game losing

747
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 5: streak in the last four years from January of twenty

748
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: two to January of twenty six, one four game losing streak.

749
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 5: It's it's it's a weird way of looking at it.

750
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: But when you don't have losing streaks, you don't you

751
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: don't lose games, obviously, But it's it's it's not about

752
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 5: the win streaks sometimes. I think it's about the losing

753
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 5: streaks that you don't have that create the winning You

754
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 5: just don't have those stretches where you're dropping five, six, seven,

755
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 5: eight games in a row. So this team has always

756
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 5: responded really well. They had a long film session today

757
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 5: at shoot around, and I imagine a lot of video

758
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 5: was shown, not only of the Chicago Bulls that pulled

759
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 5: it tonight, but that loss to Utah because that's that's

760
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 5: a loss that can't happen.

761
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: I can tell you that I've been around here since

762
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: the beginning of this team's history, and there were many

763
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: Wolves teams that would kill to just lose four games in.

764
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: A row, right kill? Believe me? What about Denver?

765
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 2: Though, I don't we got you the mix where because

766
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: we all assumed, or I did, with Joker out, well

767
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna go because all the all the analytics stuff

768
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: was whether the worst team in the league when Joker

769
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: doesn't play, And yet they've obviously survived very nicely.

770
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 5: They have it's They've been amazing, and kudos to David

771
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 5: Adelman and some of the guys they've developed that probably

772
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 5: played a lot last year. I think have benefited from

773
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 5: last season in starring in sort of an abbreviated role.

774
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 5: Because Wolves fans, I know they get these losses to

775
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 5: bad teams, kind of just like, man, why does it

776
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 5: keep happening to us? It's not just us, almost every

777
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 5: team in the league, even the thunder who earlier in

778
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 5: the year had their only loss on the road in Port.

779
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: Didn't make a lot of sense, right, But that Denver

780
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 5: team went in without all five starters to Philadelphia with

781
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 5: a healthy Joel Embiid, Paul Joe George vj Edgecombe and

782
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 5: Tyrese Maxi and beat that seventy six er team on

783
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 5: their home floor. And I sort of I always keep

784
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 5: an eye on Denver because of the rivalry, because you

785
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 5: know they're going to be there, and I've kind of been,

786
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 5: you know, hate watching them, hoping they lose. And they

787
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: won that game. Then I watched the next game in Boston.

788
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 5: They went in Boston and beat the Celtics and they

789
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 5: went six and three. I don't know what they've done

790
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: the last couple of games I think they made they split,

791
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 5: but there they've they've been able to stay afloat, and

792
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 5: now Joker is going to come back at some point

793
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 5: here in the next couple of weeks and they're going

794
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: to be right in the mix again.

795
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 2: You got you're good with numbers, so maybe you can

796
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: you can confirm this or tell me it's more eye

797
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: test than numbers. My sense of watching the league, you

798
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: were talking about variants and how you know, we get

799
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: exasperated with the range of performances seemingly almost impossible on

800
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: both ends of the spectrum. My sense of it is

801
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: we're seeing more and more of that around the league

802
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: with other good teams as well. A.

803
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 3: Is that true? B? What's that about? You never theory

804
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: about it?

805
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: Are you talking about in terms of blowing leads or

806
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 5: losing two sides, beating somebody by twenty seven and turning

807
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 5: around and losing to a bad team by thirty two

808
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: that kind of thing or twenty two.

809
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: Well, Utah is a good example of that.

810
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 5: They got beat on their home floor by fifty something

811
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 5: and then two nights later went into Cleveland and thumped

812
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 5: them there. That's a great event. Yeah, and they're they're

813
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 5: all over the map because they're up. Until beating the Wolves,

814
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 5: they were four and fourteen. Their four wins were all

815
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 5: quality wins, like Detroit at home at San Antonio on

816
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 5: the second of a back to back, which makes no sense.

817
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 5: I don't think there are more comebacks. It certainly seems

818
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 5: that a ten point lead is not what it used

819
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: to be. I think it's kind of like scoring. It

820
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 5: used to be one hundred points. You get to one hundred,

821
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 5: you're gonna be in good shape. Well now that's really

822
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: one ten. And I think with leads you have to

823
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 5: jump it up to like fifteen to really have a

824
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 5: good percentage of wins. Like you know, you're gonna win

825
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: eighty five percent of your games if you get to fifteen.

826
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 5: So I don't think there are more. I'd have to

827
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 5: look at the numbers.

828
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

829
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 5: If it feels like last year there were a lot

830
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 5: of these twenty point comes back, I don't know. I

831
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 5: don't know. I haven't heard of too many twenty point

832
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 5: comes back comebacks this year. But I'll have to look

833
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 5: at the numbers. But it's, you know, and then there's

834
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 5: always the ones where the Wolves were down nineteen at

835
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 5: home to say, so they come back to win that.

836
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 5: It doesn't quite fall in that category, but that might

837
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: have been bigger because of the opponent and the way

838
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 5: that game played out. It just I think it makes

839
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 5: for exciting basketball across the league. It's it's it's every

840
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 5: night you can tune in, and there's reasons to tune

841
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 5: in and.

842
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: Watch the games. That's true. I don't necessarily mean so

843
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: much comebacks.

844
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: I just mean, how does the same team win by

845
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 2: thirty one night and lose by you know, twenty against

846
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 2: a bad team the next night. It feels like there's

847
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: more of that, and I don't know, again, part of

848
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: that is flat out obviously everybody shoot, you know, when

849
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: you're getting fifty three is a game pretty easily, and

850
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: that enters into it just feels like the variance is

851
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: more dramatic, even amongst the dominant teams with the best record.

852
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: I think maybe that speaks maybe to the opponents. I

853
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 5: think opponents are you know, even a team like Sacramento

854
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: who str all season, they have their own issues, they

855
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 5: can put it together. When when Zach Lavine and DeMar

856
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: DeRozan gets going, You're just like, what, how does this

857
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 5: team who's ten games, fifteen games under five hundred. How

858
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: are they? How are they beating you right now? It's

859
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 5: because they can put it together on a certain night.

860
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: And I think even the bottom teams have these moments.

861
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 5: We saw in Utah. They looked really good in the

862
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 5: fourth quarter, right Cayante George, Yeah, look like a borderline

863
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 5: All Star the way he played and put up forty

864
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 5: three points. So those teams, I think has maybe more

865
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: to do with the opponents. And then there's just that

866
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 5: human nature aspect of it's really hard to come out

867
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 5: and consistently play at this intense high level every time

868
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 5: you touch the floor.

869
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that on a night like this,

870
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: when you're playing the Wolves are playing such a traditional

871
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: hated rivalry as the Chicago Bulls, that it's shit.

872
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: Everything's amped up more. All the great history.

873
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: Between it, well, actually there's a munch history as there

874
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: between the Wolves and Bulls.

875
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: Come to thing.

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Speaker 5: Chicago won the first sixteen meetings all time. That's the

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Speaker 5: other thing I keep looking at all of these all

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Speaker 5: time series records. The Wolves lost so frequently early on

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Speaker 5: that they've dug themselves these impossible hole YI series. So

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Speaker 5: San Antonio, they're down fifty games in the all time series,

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Speaker 5: and I told Jim Peterson, I said, you know, if

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Speaker 5: the Wolves were to play four times a year against

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Speaker 5: San Antonio and win them all for the next decade,

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Speaker 5: they'd still be ten games under five hundred, Like it's

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Speaker 5: it's amazing up the discrepancy. Yeah, but against the Bulls

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Speaker 5: they have battle back. Yeah, only they're only like maybe

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Speaker 5: six games under five hundred against Chicago, so actually a chance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So we're we're on the right paper at

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Speaker 3: least closer in this case. Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you have a great call tonight, and

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Speaker 2: it'll be we'll definitely be in touch more as we

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Speaker 2: get closer and closer into the.

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Speaker 3: Heart of the season. Great, damn. I appreciate it as

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Speaker 3: always appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Alan Horton, Radio and TV Voice of your Minnesota Timber

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Speaker 2: was the original plan was well, CEO Matt Caldwell was

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Speaker 2: going to join us about five thirty. He's already outside

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Speaker 2: our cage location. So it sounds like we're going to

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Speaker 2: move some things up. We'll get to top five and

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Speaker 2: five maybe eventually with guards ye as as well. But

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Speaker 2: when we come back we'll talk about ticket prices, We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about arenas, We'll talk about all kinds to stuff

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Speaker 2: with the relatively new Wolves CEO that's next her in

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Speaker 2: the fam