1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from wor Now the wr Saturday 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Morning Show. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Here's Larry Minty. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: This week on Saturday Morning, It's the best of Curtis 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Leiwa and Larry Minty in the Morning. Starting with Mark 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg and Meta losing a big lawsuit that accused Facebook 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: and Instagram of harming young users on purpose. We talked 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: with tech expert Rich Demiro from WRS Rich on tech 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Rich a blockbuster ruling, a huge ruling for the social 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: media industry. Meta Orders is ordered to pay a three 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five million dollars. It could have been worse. 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: They were asking for two billion dollars over child safety violations. 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: What does this mean to the entire industry. 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it means that it's a wake up call that 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: these companies can be held liable for what they're doing, 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: especially when they say they're doing one thing like protecting 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: teens and kids and actually are not. 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: So. 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 3: These investigators in this case created fake accounts posing as kids, 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: and they were quickly exposed to sexual content and contacted 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: by predators, something that is probably not you know, not 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: all that random, I guess. I mean, it's probably pretty 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: common for a lot of kids on these practice on 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: these platforms. So jury said Meta engaged in deceptive practices 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: basically promoting safety but not really doing that. So excuse me. 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: We have a case happening in California where Meta is 27 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: also on the stand and the jury is deliberating on that, 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: so we will see. This could open up the floodgates 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: for many more verdicts like this if these juries keep 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: deciding that, hey, you know what these companies are doing, 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: are saying one thing and doing another. 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: It's like a drug dealer pretty much. They've said, the 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: companies are a drug deal with our kids and grandchildren. 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: You know, they are addicting them to the constant usage. 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: What I don't understand is there are other people in 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: Silicon Valley who are also being sued. And there's no doubt. 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: Dad lawyer said, you do not want to be up 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: on the witness stand. Just settle, settle, settle, settle. 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: Why did Zuckerberg decide I'm gonna battle this, I'm gonna 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 2: be on the witness stand. I'm likable, I can win 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: over a jury. Boy for somebody who's made so much money, 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: not too bright. Yeah, and he's never come off as likable. 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: He has never come off as saying the right thing 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: when he's under pressure. We've seen that over and over. 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: But he seems to think that maybe in his heart 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: of hearts, he is doing the right thing. But I 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: think that, you know, he's one person in charge of 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: a very large organization. We're talking Instagram, we're talking reels, 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: we're talking Facebook, and so he may think they're doing 51 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: the right thing and by putting their best face forward 52 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: and being on the stand, But in reality, the way 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: average people are using these products and what. 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: Average kids are exposed to is a completely different story 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: on all these platforms. 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Rich schools across the country have been trying to deal 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: with AI and what they're going to allow and what 58 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: they're going to prohibit. Everybody a college is all the 59 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: way down to grade schools. Normally this is for the students, 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: but interestingly enough, in New York City schools they have 61 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: rules now for the educators and what they can use 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: and not use. For instance, AI cannot be used for grading, 63 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: it can't be used for student counseling, behavioral monitoring, and 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: other discussions. Is this a first or is this happening 65 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: across the country. 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: I think that every school district is figuring out how 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: to incorporate AI or how to I mean a lot 68 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: of them when it first came out just that absolutely 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: not it's banned, you can't use it. But I think 70 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: as every single person in America and the world at 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: large is starting to use AI or incorporating it in 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: their daily lives, these school systems have to say, Okay, 73 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: we can't just ban this. We have to either embrace it. 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: We have to come up with rules. And I think 75 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: what the New York City Department of Education is doing 76 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: is actually quite smart because they're telling teachers, look, we 77 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: understand that you're already using this behind the scenes in 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: a lot of different ways, so we're gonna allow it 79 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: and we're gonna let you brainstorm lesson ideas, which is 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: completely smart. Everyone's doing this, organizing your materials, drafting emails. 81 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: I use AI to write my emails every single day, 82 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: and so the things that they've kind of said no, 83 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: you can't use it for that's a smart carve out 84 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: right now. So I think every district is grappling with this. 85 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: But if you look at the students, they're all using it. 86 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: I don't think they should be using it to write papers, 87 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: but should use it to research. Absolutely, it's the way 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: people are researching today. 89 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: Speaking of students, mostly male, I have three shuns, remember 90 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: the TV program My Three Shuns. What is the one 91 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: thing that they have in common? Love of Fortnite or Roadblocks? 92 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 2: I hate Roadbox. I can deal with Fortnite, but I understand. 93 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you. I despise Roadblocks, Yes, totally. 94 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: I'd rather watch Barney episodes as much as I hated Barney. 95 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: But they say that there is a broader weakness in 96 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: the video game industry. I haven't since that, and now 97 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: that I'm starting to make massive cuts, which means less 98 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: Fortnite content, you know, so they can constantly refresh in 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: the game. I thought, in fact, if anything, it was 100 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: more use of video games by the new generation. 101 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: It is, but I think that what we're seeing here 102 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: is nothing can reach the levels of video gameplay like 103 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: we saw during the pandemic. Students, I mean kids, my 104 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: kids included. You know, they really got hooked on these games. 105 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: Not so much Fortnite for my kids, but Roadblocks especially 106 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: be Fortnite said they're laying off more than a thousand employees. 107 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: It's about twenty percent of their staff, one of the 108 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: biggest cuts we've seen in gaming so far, And they said, 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: you know what, engagement has just been dropping since last year. 110 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: But the thing that they made clear, because we're hearing 111 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: about AI impacting jobs so much, they said, this has 112 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: nothing to do with AI. We're not replacing workers with AI. 113 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: We're just seeing less people play. And last year they 114 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: raised the price of their in game currency, they call 115 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 3: them v bucks. But the reality is, yes, our kids 116 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: still playing Fortnite absolutely. Is it still popular. Yes, I 117 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: think we're just seeing a slow retreat as there are 118 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: more options available with gameplay and also social media on 119 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: these phones. 120 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: So what is Amazon up to? They bought a company 121 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: that makes consumer humanoid robots. Does that mean robots are 122 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: going to be making deliveries to our house or is 123 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: it drones that will be making deliveries too ourhouse? Oh? 124 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: All the above there. I think this is a This 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: is a company called Fauna Robotics. They're making a small 126 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: humanoid robotic. It's named Sprout. And you know, Amazon already 127 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: has robots making deliveries. They already have robots in their warehouses, 128 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: they have a ton of automation. This I think is 129 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: kind of a move towards the humanoid robot for people. 130 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: So we've seen a lot of these robots that are 131 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: trying to do things in the home like fold laundry 132 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: and you know, serve you whatever. This is a very 133 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: expensive robot fifty thousand dollars, but could the scale of 134 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: Amazon and all the people that they have the smarts 135 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: bring that cost down. The dream for robotics has been 136 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: we want a Rosy the robot in our homes. Well, 137 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: some people do, and so far we have not seen 138 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: that happen in a big way. The best we have 139 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: is a is a robotic vacuum that gets caught on 140 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: the first stock that it runs into. 141 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I feel your pain. 142 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: Oh, we'll see. This is you know, Amazon launched this 143 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: thing called Astro back in twenty twenty one. It was 144 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: a basically an Alexa on wheels. It was not very smart. 145 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: That thing flopped. But we'll see. Every company now is 146 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: trying to be first in the home because once we 147 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: get that robot that the mass American population can purchase 148 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: and have actually do interesting things in their home that 149 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: could be game changing. 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Rich Demiro from rich on Tech. Rich on Tech has 151 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: heard Sunday Nights from eight to eleven pm on wor 152 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: You can reach Rich at rich on Tech on Instagram. 153 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: This has been a podcast from WR