1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Today on Judge Joe Show, plaintiff Brenda wants a full 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: refund because her photographer Cameron edited her family photos beyond recognition. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: But Cameron's defense, she claims she was doing them a favor, 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: arguing the family is ugly and she usually charges extra 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: to fix that. Is there grounds for a refund? All 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: rise for Judge Joe Show on ninety three to three. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Flz Brenda's your family ugly? 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: No way? 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little harsh for her to say, but yeah, Cameron, 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 4: are you going to stick by what you said? 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: Is Brenda's family ugly? 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 5: Listen, I see a lot of photos and I'm not 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 5: changing my mind. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: Well, we're arguing right now. Should Brenda get her money back? 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: Four nine three You could text it at nine seven, 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 4: seven to zero. These videos heavily edited, Cameron, you're claiming 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 4: that you know what, Hey, this is actually a discounted 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: rate because normally it costs a lot more money for 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: the edits. 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 5: I see a lot of families take a lot of photos, 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 5: and these are a little bit of an exception. Because 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 5: I did you a favor, Hunt, I wanted to give 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 5: you the best photos possible, and frankly that I didn't 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 5: have a lot to work with. 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 6: Wow, okay, all right, well yeah, if you want to 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 6: hear my side of the story, I spent what I 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 6: thought was a crazy amount of money seven hundred and 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 6: fifty dollars for out one hour photo shoot. We're talking 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 6: like maybe two or three poses for my family. And yeah, 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 6: you know what, we're not models, but we're a nice 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 6: looking family. And let me tell you something. When I 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 6: got those photos back, we were und recognizable. And I 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 6: just think it is ridiculous and I want the full 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 6: seven fifty refund back. 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,279 Speaker 2: Okay, here's the deal. Is it expensive? 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: I'm not here to say my engagement shoot that I 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: did with my fiance a couple of months ago it 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: was cheaper than that. But also I know the photographer 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 4: and shout out to Risa and you can see we 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: tagged her and everything. If you want to get your 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: your photos done. But listen, Cameron, you charge what you charge. 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: That's not the argument. So well, we don't even have 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: to bring up the amount or anything like that. The 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: question is should that money go back to Brenda. Brenda 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: did get the photos? You paid for photos? Cameron gave 47 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 4: you those photos, but you're not happy with the results. 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 4: Do you think that Cameron, you know, kind of messed 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: them up with the edits eight hundred and four O 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: nine ninety three ninety three you get text in at 51 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: ninety seven seven two zero. I'm the judge, so I 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 4: can't really give my opinion until the very very end. 53 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: I mean, actually, when you hear this, what do you 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: think I. 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 7: Would be terrified? Because, Yeah, you can't just go in 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 7: and change someone's appearance on their photos just because they 57 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 7: were sent to you. You may feel like they're not attractive, 58 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 7: but there are other people that in their family that 59 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 7: do think they're attractive. So changing someone's photos just based 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 7: on how you feel they look that is wrong and 61 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 7: they should get away on. 62 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 8: If they're making you look better. 63 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 7: Who says that I feel like I look better? She 64 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 7: clearly doesn't think they look better. If she wants her 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 7: money back from these. 66 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 8: Photos, well, it's all subjective, right, so one side can 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 8: say that it's good, the other side can say is bad. 68 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 8: She's clearly a professional photographer and she wants everybody to 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 8: look even better. Think about it this perspective, Ashley. We've 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 8: had risks to take our shows. Yeah, photos, if you 71 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 8: think for a minute, that those photos weren't untouched or 72 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 8: not edited. You are absolutely. 73 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: Correct, but we look like ourselves. 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 7: She's saying that these photos have been altered to the 75 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 7: point where the family's unrecognizable. 76 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: That's not cool. I don't know that. I'm on the. 77 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 8: Side of the photographer here. She's trying to do service 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 8: for her client. 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: I want to look different. 80 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: I'll get their dream, all right, So you heard from 81 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: We'll just call you the lawyers. How about that, Cameron, 82 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: you're being represented by Ashley Brenda Jed or actually, rather 83 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: flip that, uh, Ashley Brenda Jed Cameron Jure. Kelly is 84 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 4: on the line now on in Tarpin Springs. Kelly, what 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 4: do you think? 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 9: So I'm going to side with Brenda on that because 87 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 9: first and foremost, like, who are you? Who the photographer? 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 9: Who are you to judge that a family is ugly? 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 9: Like that's how God created that family, you know, and 90 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 9: that's who they are. I understand editing like background and 91 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 9: blurring out things that you know, to make the total 92 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 9: appearance of the picture look better. But for the family 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 9: and the words, oh my gosh, no, is our so. 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: Full refugn thank you? Kelly, Julia, what do you think. 95 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 10: Crazy work definitely deserves a refund. We just got married 96 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 10: last year, and if I couldn't recognize myself or my family, 97 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 10: I would be pissed. And photos are not cheap these days, 98 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 10: which I'm sure you're aware of as you shop for 99 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 10: photographers and do everything that you need to be doing. 100 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 10: So I think that you're trying to preserve that memory 101 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 10: and how you look with your family and in that 102 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 10: time so completely distorting them as bonkers. And I don't 103 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 10: know how she gets any clients. 104 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 8: That's it. 105 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: Yep, thank you, Julia Gabrielle. 106 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, So I am on friend's side as well. 107 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: I think that you know, coming coming from someone who 108 00:05:48,600 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: has done professional modeling actually through Tampa and Orlando area. Yeah, 109 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: I don't do it anymore now. I'm just a full 110 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: time trainer and group fitness instructors. Shout out the South 111 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: Side Barbell and Lake Glynn shout out. 112 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 11: But anyways, yeah, I think that Brenda should get her 113 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 11: full refund, or at least should be offered to have 114 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 11: a retake of those photos, or even so much as 115 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 11: You've got to keep in mind, what if she signed 116 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 11: a contract to then there could be a problem with 117 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 11: refunding as well. You have to counter all those factors. 118 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 11: But I am on her side. I think that's totally 119 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 11: unfair and pictures aren't expensive, and if you're upset with 120 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 11: the quality, get your refund. Girl. 121 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 8: Question, this is hypothetical. I'm sorry, let me think about that. Okay, Okay, 122 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 8: here's my question, judge. We've all used photos filters on 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 8: Instagram or Facebook or whatnot? Question? But sure correct, Yes, no, 124 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 8: I'm saying, I'm asking, is he gonna ask you a question? 125 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 7: One question? 126 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 8: Okay, My question is done. I'm sorry, no going, because 127 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 8: it's only I was ordering the court because that it 128 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 8: would be a leading question. I'd be what is your question? 129 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 8: My question is what's the difference between you putting a 130 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 8: filter on Facebook, which I'm sure that Brenda has done before, 131 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 8: and her touching up your photos? All right? 132 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: Who is this? 133 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 5: Hey? 134 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: What's up? Dyna might drop it. I'll be editing that 135 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: out for. 136 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 8: Oh okay, in my mind, never mind. 137 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: What that person would. 138 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if they're uh huh, one last one, 139 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: one last one. I have come to my decision. Well, 140 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: we'll see if you guys like the decision. But I 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: actually we don't even need to go to the next one. 142 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: I've come to my decision. Sometimes I'm make popular decisions. 143 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: Sometimes people are very happy with it. Other times we 144 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: can go to an appeals court, and maybe it is 145 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: time to do so, because Brenda, unfortunately I cannot give 146 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: you your money back. And here's why. At the end 147 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 4: of the day, you paid for the service, and you 148 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 4: got the service. You didn't like the photos. Unfortunately, that's 149 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: what's gonna happen sometimes, Cameron. 150 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: And nowhere, nowhere. 151 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: Does it say that you do give refunds. It also 152 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: doesn't say that you don't. But because of that, I 153 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: cannot give you the money back, Brenda. 154 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: That is Judge Joe Show. 155 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: And if you appeal text appeal to nine seven, seven 156 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: to zero. If we get enough, we will enter an 157 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 4: appeals court.