1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: And as you've heard there with the news update, a 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: reminder again see you men's basketball tonight's taking on Portland 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: State will be without fans in attendance due to high winds, 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: power outages, and potentially hazardous road conditions. But you can 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: hear it right here on the station seven o'clock, So 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: that's still coming up here. And as you heard Keen 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: mentioned there, fans with tickets to tonight's game would be 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: issued a single use promo code by the end of 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: the day Monday, December twenty second for tickets to the 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: game against Northern Colorado except for Sunday, December twenty eighth 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: at one o'clock. So you go, it's coming up here 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: tonight just a little bit. You have five six six 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: nights Zeros or KWA Commas, Spirit Hill Textige, a lot 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: of reaction to some of the silliness and the zanius 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: of the last couple hours, and you can now go 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: check that out on demand a little later on Kwacolorado 17 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: dot com. 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: Dave, what about this? 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Very quickly? What about this game with Jacksonville? Does have 20 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: you concerned? If there is anything you mentioned turnovers as 21 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: being the primary one, like giving Jacksonville's defense takeaways. 22 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean and Jacksonville, I mean Jack's sill is 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 3: going to test the Broncos run defense, right. You you 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: want Trevor Lawrence to have to play the way he 25 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: did against the Jets, and the Broncos defense is by 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: far better than the Jets. And you want the crowd 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: to be in the game the way they were in 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: the game when the Broncos beat the Packers made a 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: very very difficult on Jordan Love. 30 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 4: So not not concerned. 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: I just think I think it's a good football team 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: coming up here, and they have I mean, the Broncos 33 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: have absolutely plenty to play for, but so does Jacksonville, which, 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: you know, two good. 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: Teams going at it. 36 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: I think I think Denver will will win this game, 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: and the. 38 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 4: Only I guess not. 39 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: It's not troubling, but when you think about it, they 40 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: won eleven consecutive games, and I just know in the 41 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: NFL that is an extraordinary accomplishment. So you start to 42 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: sort of wonder. I know the players and the coaches 43 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: don't think this way, but you start to wonder, like, hey, 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: are they better off losing the game in the regular season. 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: I was thinking the same You know you don't. I 46 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: guarantee you they don't think that way. But I'm just 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: saying to win eleven consecutive games in the NFL is 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: beyond extraordinary, and this team has done it with three 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: more regular season games to go. 50 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 5: Interesting, you brought that up because I was thinking the same. Obviously, 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 5: you want them to win enough games to be the 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 5: number one seed, certainly win the AFC West. But I 54 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 5: think in some ways a loss can benefit you going 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: into the playoffs, like especially when you've won so many 56 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 5: in a row, just get it out of the way. 57 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: But I don't know if they're going to have that luxury. 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 5: I think they may have to win all three games 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 5: to do accomplish what they want to accomplish. 60 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can. 61 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, mathematically, you could sew up the AFC West 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: and the one seed this weekend. But you'd need Buffalo, 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: the Page and the Chargers all three to lose and 64 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: the Broncos to win. So that's all possible, right, I mean, 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: under the perspective of anything is possible. The Patriots are 66 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: playing at the Baltimore Ravens, the Chargers are playing at 67 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. The Buffalo Bills are at the Browns, 68 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: so that one maybe a little bit tougher. Although we 69 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: had Shelby on yesterday he said they were fired up 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 1: to play the Bills. 71 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Cleveland's got a good defense. But you know, 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: you would you would favor the Bills in that if 73 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: the Chargers and the Broncos would end with the same 74 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 3: regular season record, I haven't even looked at the tiebreaker, 75 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: have you. 76 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: Not for that? 77 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Because if they have the same record, I mean, I 78 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: guess that at that point, because the Bills are a 79 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: couple of games or sorry, the Chargers are a couple 80 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: of games back, so that means the Chargers would have 81 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: swept them, then I guess the Chargers would have the 82 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: head to head. 83 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. So I mean I think I think 84 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: head to head is the first. Yeah, tiebreaker. 85 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: It depends on if there's two teams involved or three teams. 86 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: There's right, there's a formulae in the NFL. I just 87 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: don't off the top of my head. In terms of 88 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: the Patriots, if the Broncos win two of their remaining 89 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: three games, the Patriots cannot be the number one seed. 90 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: They can't catch them. 91 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: Nope. 92 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: So make of that which you will what's the franchise record, 93 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 5: twelve in a row? 94 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: I think thirteen? Is it? 95 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: Thirteen? They won thirteen? They won thirteen games to open 96 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: the season. Back in nineteen ninety eight. 97 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: Okay, and you. 98 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 5: Were calling that that was your first year as the 99 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 5: play by play no voice, Well, the year before was. 100 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 4: I actually did. 101 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: Play by play in ninety six also, But that was 102 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: a fun those three years, ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight. 103 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: I did road game play by play in ninety six, 104 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: home game color, then full time full time in ninety seven. 105 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: They didn't the Broncos didn't lose a home game in 106 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: that three year span. They were twenty four and oh 107 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: in the regular seams. Must have been a lot of fun. 108 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: It was. 109 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great text to ask Dave what he thinks 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: about bon Nicks? 111 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: What do you think about bon Nicks? 112 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Like him? 113 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: I think he's. 114 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: You know, I think he's got that that special something 115 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: that is really hard to hard to quantify. I think 116 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: he's a playmaker. I think he's got he's got a 117 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: fearless countenance, which can be more good than bad, can 118 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: be a little bit of both, but I look at 119 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: it as being more positive. 120 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: He's fearless. 121 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a throw that he doesn't think 122 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: he can't make on the field, which again I think 123 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: is more positive than negative, can be both. And there's 124 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: again I said, after the I think the Giants game, 125 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: I said, there's a there's a backyard beauty to his 126 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: game where he at times is just running around like 127 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: we all used to in the backyard, trying to make 128 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: a play, you know, and you got to avoid the 129 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: oak tree in the middle of the playing field, and 130 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: you know Timmy's hiding behind the buick and the other driveway, 131 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: you know, and you just you just go out and play. 132 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: And there's, to me, there's a little bit of that 133 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 4: in Bo's game. 134 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 5: The last four games or so, he's been as good 135 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 5: as any quarterback in the league. But before then we 136 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: sat here talking about how he needed to get better 137 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 5: and how he could get better. What do you think 138 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 5: has changed in his game the last four weeks? Why 139 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 5: did all of a sudden click? 140 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: Why? 141 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: No one thing? 142 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: And danren Rolatsky had this interesting sort of stat on 143 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: ESPN earlier today talking about the Broncos in no huddle 144 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: because it was a season high thirteen plays this last 145 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: weekend against the Packers in no huddle, they had one 146 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: hundred and eleven yards of offense, averaging thirteen point six 147 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: yards per attempt. These are all seasoned highs, by the way, 148 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: thirteen plays, one hundred eleven yards, thirteen point six per attempt. 149 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: Bonix was seven for seven for ninety five yards when 150 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: they went no huddle. 151 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 5: And you could see, certainly you want to do that 152 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 5: here at home. They take advantage of the altitude here. 153 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: And you could see the Packers were gassed in that 154 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: fourth quarter. And I remember seeing Michael Parsons on the 155 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 5: sideline sucking on oxygen before obviously before he got hurt. 156 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 5: And when I saw that, I just I knew Broncos 157 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 5: were going to win that football game. And I think 158 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: they should employ that style of offense a lot more 159 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 5: than they do. 160 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: Completely agree. 161 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: And you got Jacksonville coming in right, so coming from 162 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: sea level, well. 163 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 5: Right yeah, right on the ocean, right on the beach, 164 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 5: they certainly could take advantage of them with an uptempo game. 165 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: And obviously you see there with Bonix the numbers are 166 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: what they are. I mean, that is season high thirteen plays. 167 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: Although there was a very funny moment today Sean I 168 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: don't want to say this was Luca. 169 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: I love their relationships. 170 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: Now he has Chris Thomas and Luca, they have this 171 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: sort of dynamic. Okay, So I kept the question in 172 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: here because Sean was asked about Bonix playing a season 173 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: high of under center this last week, and this is 174 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: what this is how that went went. 175 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: Last last three weeks postplayed on your centers just keeps 176 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: going on, and. 177 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: It went up last week. Yeah, I think I would 178 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: say this. 179 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 6: So we knew a little bit about how they scouted, 180 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 6: and so if you know how they scout, then you 181 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 6: you you have your your people self scout you the 182 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 6: same way. And so you know, we wanted to be 183 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 6: more play action under center. There were just certain things 184 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 6: that we wanted to to do that were the opposite, 185 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 6: maybe of of what we've been doing. And so I 186 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 6: wouldn't have kept track of that pitch count. 187 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: But you're my gun tempo guy. 188 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: So you're my gun tempo guy. 189 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: So what about that, Dave? 190 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: I mean, playing a season high under center, season high 191 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: in snaps in hurry up or no huddle, and Bow 192 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: looked his best. 193 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: I mean we're drawing too many conclusions to that. 194 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: No, I don't think I don't think you are. 195 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: You know, Shawn has has pushed back a little bit 196 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: on that from time to time, but I think he's 197 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: I mean, sewan Is is a really bright offensive coach 198 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: and ultimately he's going to do whatever he thinks puts 199 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: Bow in the best absolute position. 200 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: What you want to have. I think this late in 201 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: the season, in particular, in a season like. 202 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: This, when there's so much still to be accomplished, you 203 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: want to have that quarterback feel it as confident as 204 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 3: he possibly can. And I think Bo is really confident 205 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: when the tempo gets increased. I think I've seen Bow 206 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: at his best now. There has to be balance between 207 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: increasing the tempo too much and if you're not getting 208 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: first downs, then you tend to wear out your defense 209 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: because you increase the defensive snaps, you know, twenty five percent. 210 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: You don't want to do that, So you've got to 211 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 3: be efficient. If you want to go Temple on offense, 212 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: you've got to be efficient. You've got to be cranking 213 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: out some first downs. If you do that, then I 214 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: think you start to wear on the opposition, especially here 215 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: in Denver. But I think Bo relishes that and I 216 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: think it allows his sort of what I've coined the 217 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: phrase his backyard beauty. 218 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: To sort of take over from time to time. 219 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 5: It seemed like early in the season the game was 220 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 5: a little too fast for him at times, and maybe 221 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 5: Sean Payton was pushing him like that to kind of 222 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: get him to get more comfortable with everything sped up. 223 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 5: And if so, if that was part of the plan, 224 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: it worked out perfectly because as we're coming down the 225 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 5: stretch now, he's very comfortable in that type of offense. Now, 226 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 5: early in the season he didn't look real comfortable. We 227 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: saw him with bad throwing mechanics, and you know, he's 228 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 5: breaking out of the pocket too much too early, breaking 229 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: out of the back of the pocket, bailing out that 230 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 5: was He fixed that very quickly. But looking back on it, 231 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: maybe this was part of the plan for Sean. He's 232 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 5: going to push him really early, make him uncomfortable, and 233 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 5: he got used to it, because he sure looks comfortable 234 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 5: now and with three games to go, I still think 235 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 5: we haven't seen. 236 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: The best of bo. 237 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 5: I think he's going to continue to get better this season, 238 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 5: not just his career. I think this season there's still 239 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: an upside for him, and it's happening at just the 240 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 5: right time. 241 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I completely agree, and I think this is 242 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: part of the reason why I didn't like, and I 243 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: still to this moment don't like some of the analysis 244 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: that gets written about the Broncos, specifically the offense in 245 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: Bow where it almost like thinks that it's static, Like 246 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: his performance, especially early in the season, was what it's 247 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: always going to be. 248 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: And the game against the Raiders, the game against the Jets. 249 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: You know that we talked about that Jeremy Fowler blurb 250 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: that we were discussing early on why he doesn't believe 251 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: in the Broncos in the postseason. It's because he's like, ah, 252 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm still thinking about those games and thinking 253 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: about how bo Nicks looked in those games, and oh, 254 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: I just can't shake those specific ones. And it's like, 255 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: boy boy, you know, you're ignoring what the last months 256 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: has been, where he's playing at a top ten, if 257 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: not top five level. 258 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 259 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: People grow, people change, including improve, especially during the law 260 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: course of a long season. 261 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, I've had of thought maybe you know, 262 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 5: he's peaked too, really, but I don't think he's peaked. 263 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 5: I don't think this team is peaked yet. And we 264 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 5: talk about them playing a complete game. We've only seen 265 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 5: bits and pieces of complete games up to this point. 266 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 5: Last week was I think maybe the best game they 267 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 5: played all season, but it's going to get better from there. 268 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 5: On top of that, the first half defense struggled a 269 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 5: bit against the Packers, then they figured some things out 270 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 5: the second half of Man did they pressure Jordan Love? 271 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 5: Jordan Love, I think fifty two percent of his dropbacks 272 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 5: he was pressured on. That's great and there's not too 273 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 5: many quarterbacks in the league that are going to be 274 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 5: successful when you can pressure the quarterback at that rate. 275 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: Here's Bonix earlier today talking about the Broncos fans supports 276 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: that he's had so far. 277 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: They've been extremely supportive. 278 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 7: They've allowed me to you earlier question, allowed me to 279 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 7: fail and then get back to success. Allowed me to 280 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 7: have success and you know, manage it. And I think 281 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 7: it's you know, all about you know, riding the roller 282 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 7: coaster of the highs and the lows, and you know, 283 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 7: we've been able to put something together this year. I 284 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 7: think that's been a good product for them to enjoy. 285 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 7: And I think it's just a great home environment. Is 286 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 7: one of the best, you know, atmospheres in the entire country, 287 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 7: not just professionally, but you know, we're starting to really play. 288 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 7: It feels like each game is a playoff game, and 289 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 7: each game has a lot of importance to it, and 290 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 7: so having a home crowd and you know, playing at 291 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 7: home is uh, you know, we obviously wouldn't want to 292 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 7: go on the road in this situation, but you know, 293 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 7: it's extremely exciting. You know, it feels like we're you know, 294 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 7: getting it back to what it was back in this heyday, 295 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 7: and I think it's uh, you know, I think back 296 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 7: to what it should be. 297 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that. You guys echo that as well. 298 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Calling the last two home games, the Chiefs game and 299 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: then now the Packers game, I'd say it's almostitute for 300 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos fans too, because last year they were on 301 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: the road for the one playoff game in Buffalo. This year, 302 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: we've known for a little while that they're probably going 303 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: to be hosting at least one playoff game. 304 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: Oh, you're you're you're absolutely right. I think that, you know, 305 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: the last couple of games, and I think largely due 306 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: to well a combination of the Broncos fans being excited 307 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: about the year, the home team is having and also 308 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: due to the opponents and what was at stake with 309 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: Kansas City and Green Bay, But those two games, just 310 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: from an atmosphere standpoint, have felt a lot like playoff games. 311 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: I mean in the Broncos, I mean haven't had a 312 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: home playoff game since twenty fifteen. 313 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: Right. 314 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: You think about that AFC Championship game, and I call 315 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: that game, I mean that there was so much electricity 316 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: in the stadium, and the Broncos got up to a 317 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: great start, but I mean that was you could just 318 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: almost feel it, and you know, I think it's gonna 319 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: That's why this is a very dangerous team to me 320 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: for the rest of the AFC, right because they I 321 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: think they're a really good team, but I think they're 322 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: a young team. And sometimes and maybe this was what 323 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: Sean was referring to, you know, earlier in training camp 324 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: and he talked about something about the youthfulness of this 325 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: team and so forth. But sometimes you can have a 326 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: young team and they just don't know what they don't know, 327 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: and you can't you can't shake them off. 328 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: They don't get tight because they just they just don't know. 329 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: They've been doing this all year long, and they've been 330 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: coming back, and they've been winning in improbable ways, and 331 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: they've they've woned dominant ways from time to time, and 332 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: they've looked like, nah, they're not very good offense, and 333 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: then lately they've looked like they're pretty. 334 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: Damn good on offense. 335 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: So I think this is a tough team for anybody 336 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: in the AFC to have to come to Denver in 337 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: January and find a way to win four quarters and 338 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: win a game. 339 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that building was I felt it shaking in the 340 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 4: fourth quarter. It was that loud. 341 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 5: I think they had one hundred and twenty two decibels 342 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 5: at one point from what I saw. And to me, 343 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 5: there's places in the league that are tough to play 344 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 5: in loud stadiums. This could be the toughest place to 345 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 5: play when you combine the altitude. If the Broncos fans 346 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 5: are going to bring it like they've done the last 347 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 5: couple of games and make it that loud with the altitude, 348 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 5: this is the toughest place to play. 349 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: And Dave's right, You're gonna have at. 350 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 5: Least one home playoff game, hopefully more than that, and 351 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 5: they're gonna be a tough team to beat at home 352 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 5: for sure. 353 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: Here's what Bow had to say about the Jaguars defense. 354 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 7: They're a really good football team. They're very multiple, they 355 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 7: do a lot of different things. They do a great 356 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 7: job tackling, getting the Carrott Bulkers to the ground. They 357 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 7: forced a lot of turnovers, and they're just really good, 358 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 7: really good defense. They got several good football players on 359 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 7: their team, and I think they're doing a really good 360 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 7: job with their team with their new coaches. 361 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: It's such a weird defense in a lot of ways 362 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: because they're the number one run defense, and Shawn even 363 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: talked about that today, eighty six point three yards allowed 364 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: per game. We're very late in the season, and Sean 365 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: POI that is like, if I give you that statur 366 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: early in the year, you're like, all right, we don't 367 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: know if that's a good run defense. This late in 368 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: the year, that's a good run defense. They don't get 369 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot of sacks, though they have thirty fewer sacks 370 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: than the Broncos. They are the twenty fifth ranked team 371 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: in sacks twenty eight twenty eight sacks. Their third down 372 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: number is twenty sixth. But they get a lot of takeaways. 373 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: They get a lot of takeaways and they're very good 374 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: run defense. It's when you watch them, it's like there 375 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: isn't other than their edge rushers. That's the thing that 376 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: jumps out to me right away is like, Okay, they 377 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: got a couple of good edge rushers right between Walker. 378 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: And heinz Allen. 379 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, hinz Allen not practicing today, that 380 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: could be interesting to monitor. You got Devin Lloyd inside 381 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: linebacker leeds the league interceptions. 382 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: He's been pretty good this year. I don't know about 383 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 2: the secondary. 384 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure how they're so good at run 385 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: stopping unless it's just that teams have to throw against 386 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: them all the time because that offense is so good. 387 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, tough to tell because we haven't had a chance 388 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 3: to see every single game. But I think you have 389 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: to respect teams. As Sean said, when you look at 390 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 3: the numbers and they come in this late in the 391 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 3: season giving up that few yards on the ground, then 392 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: you assume, and I think rightfully so, that it's going 393 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 3: to be it's going to be a struggle, and it's 394 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: going to be tough sledding. Find ways to run the 395 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: ball again. You and I and Rick were talking earlier 396 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: in the show about you know what concerned me about 397 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 3: Jacksonville the way they create turnovers. 398 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: You've got to be again the word manage. You want 399 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 4: to manage Bow. 400 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 3: In terms of some of his decisions, but you also 401 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 3: want to turn him loose and let him do what 402 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: he's shown he's. 403 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: Really comfortable doing. 404 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: And that's not to mean the Bow can't be successful 405 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: from in the pocket, because I've seen enough this year 406 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: where he has stood in the pocket and delivered the 407 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: ball on time with accuracy, so he can do that too. 408 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: I'm just saying he's at his best. I think when he. 409 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: Creates a little bit of off schedule stuff, and that 410 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: is hard, that's hard to coach into certain situations because 411 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: it just happens naturally, and it's also hard to count 412 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: on that being sustainable for a length of time. And 413 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 3: I say that again, and I think Bo's had a 414 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: great stretch of play, and I think the Broncos will 415 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 3: find a way to beat Jacksonville. Just trying to take 416 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: you into the mind of really maybe what guys out 417 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: there can be thinking about the last three games. 418 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 5: When you look at their schedule, they haven't had a 419 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 5: tough schedule to get to the point they're at today. 420 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 5: They beat a couple of good teams. They beat the Chargers, 421 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: they beat them handily. Fact, yeah, beat the Chiefs. The 422 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 5: Chiefs were good by three. But the rest of their 423 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 5: schedule it pretty soft schedule and in fact, recently on 424 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 5: their streak here, they haven't played too many tough teams. 425 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: So they are what they are. 426 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: And to me, it's the quarterback that has really turned 427 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 5: his game around here in these past five six games. 428 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 5: I think they're six and one in their last seven games, 429 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 5: and he's playing lights out. They're scoring a lot of points. 430 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 5: This could end up being a shootout game. But I 431 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 5: do think the Bronco the Broncos defense. They played the 432 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 5: Texans and lost to them. Bronco's defense I think will 433 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: slow them down. And with bow Nicks and the offense 434 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 5: getting better every week, I like our chances this week. 435 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 436 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: Feel Breg good about it too. 437 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: FEGA veteran acting military member or first responder with twenty 438 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars through February first, submit your nomination name 439 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: and they're deserving reason for twenty five hundred dollars at 440 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: Kowa Colorado dot com. 441 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: Slash Contest. 442 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: It's a Heroes thank You present up by Common Spirit 443 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: health and fix the twenty four to seven. 444 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: Bronco Country. Nice coming for the top of the casts. 445 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: Strong with that. 446 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: Nothing's wrong with that, nothing at all. 447 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 5: I've been a fun show. Yeah to say, I'm kind 448 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 5: of laughed out, I really am. 449 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: I can't believe the last during that break anyways, five 450 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: six h zeros are way comments for Dell text line. 451 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: I've heard a couple of things. My mind is still 452 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: blown from what we just. 453 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: Talked about our conversation off here. Huh yeah, yeah, you 454 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 4: and Sharon Moore, Yeah that one. 455 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: That one, uh huh yeah, I can't repeat anything. 456 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so very quickly here Joe Burrow, this was kind 457 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: of making the rounds today. He had his uh presser 458 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: and he was asked if he's had any thoughts about 459 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: being with the Bengals. 460 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: Next year in your mind when you're not the quarterback 461 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: with the Bengals next year. 462 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: I could, I couldn't see. 463 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: I can't see that now. 464 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: Didn't you every thought about the possibility of not being 465 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback here or daring here career or. 466 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: You think about a lot of things, and when. 467 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 8: You look at quarterbacks over the course of their time, 468 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 8: great month, Peyton Brady, you would kind of have to 469 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 8: understand that you never know what this legal brand. Way 470 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 8: you learned from watching how their careers. 471 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 7: On the folded. 472 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of crazy things happen every year. Michael 473 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: Parsons got traded. 474 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 4: Right before the seat, right before the season. 475 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: I think this year is as something I hadn't seen 476 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: in a long time in the NFL. 477 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 6: So crazy things gonna happen. 478 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: Wow, somebody was typing their ass off. 479 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, a loud clicking. 480 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 1: So I don't know, like a lot of people are 481 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: having especially after last week when you had sort of 482 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: the introspective are you having fun anymore playing the game? 483 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: And then he went out and just played terrible, I 484 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: mean awful against the Ravens. So there's a lot of 485 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: people sort of running with this idea that maybe Joe 486 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: Burrow was thinking about retiring or it doesn't want to 487 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: be the CINCINNTI Bengals anymore. 488 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 489 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: I like to read between the lines, Dave, I don't know. 490 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: You don't always like to read between the lines. Is 491 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: this something you read between the lines on though? 492 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: I think you can. Yeah, I. 493 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: Think there's zero chance that he retires, Okay, like zero, 494 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: But I do think you can read between the lines 495 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: that he's unhappy with, and then there's probably there's probably 496 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: a bag full of things, right, I mean, in terms 497 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 3: of the injuries he's dealt with, those are hard if 498 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: you're constantly rehabbing yourself got hurt again this year, hasn't 499 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: had great protection. You know, one of the issues I 500 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: think we should point out. I mean, Joe was really 501 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: and I love Joe Burrow. His game is toughness, how 502 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 3: he approaches the game. I mean, he's a pro, but 503 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: he was one of the biggest advocates. They go out 504 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: and sign t Higgins right after they signed Jamar Chase, 505 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: and they have spent a buttload of money on two 506 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: wide receivers in a salary cap era, and you could 507 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: draw the conclusion that the money could have been and 508 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 3: maybe he should have been spent on acquiring offensive lineman 509 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: and protection for Joe Burrow. So, you know, part of 510 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: I think part of the dilemma that he's now in. 511 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 4: You know, is his is his own doing. 512 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 3: So it wouldn't surprise me if Joe envisioned going somewhere 513 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: else and starting over. I think a lot of guys 514 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: do that. Now what would it take, you know, for 515 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: Cincinnati to trade Joe Burrow. No, boy, that's going to 516 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 3: be a buttload of draft choices. And Parsons was two firsts. 517 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: That's Parsons like, I mean, it's one of the best 518 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 3: head rushers. But this quarterback, yep, I mean you're talking 519 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: about three first I mean, when's the last quarterback? How 520 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 3: old was Joe Burrow? Twenty seven? 521 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: Maybe that sounds blue. 522 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 4: Think he's older? Is he? I want to say twenty eight, 523 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 4: twenty nine. 524 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: We'll turn thirty this month. I mean he really just 525 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: turned twenty nine. 526 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: He would be He would be, without question, franchise quarterback. 527 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: Now one of the pushbacks would be he said, a 528 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: number of injuries. You can't forecast injuries in the NFL. 529 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: But how many quarterbacks that are franchise guys have been 530 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: traded at the age of twenty nine? I can't. I mean, 531 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: I'm sure there are some as we sit here and 532 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 3: chop it up, and I can't think of I mean, 533 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 3: Dan Reese tried to tried to trade John Elway, right, 534 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: so Washington, we're talking just quarterbacks, Yeah, okay, yeah, franchise 535 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: franchise quarterbacks. Yeah, I can't think it hasn't. I mean 536 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: it doesn't. I'm sure we're missing somebody, but it doesn't 537 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: happen too many times. 538 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 5: He certainly left the door open for it is what 539 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: it feels like, right, He's holding all the cards, he's 540 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: got all the leverage. He can pretty much call a 541 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 5: shot here. I mean, I would take the least they 542 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 5: would do is fire the head coach. I mean Carson 543 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: Palmer pulled it off. Carson was a little bit troubleser, 544 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 5: right right, but he forced his way out of Cincinnati 545 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: because he said, listen, then I'm going to retire that. 546 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson was the one that Zach just pointed out. 547 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be that. 548 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 2: There was three firsts, a third, two fourths and a sixth. 549 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: Goodness, goodness, we're just thinking. 550 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: About that now, right, three first, three first, a third, 551 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: two fourths and a sixth and they paid him that contract. 552 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 4: And that was after the whole massages. 553 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: Well, but it had it hadn't really they knew about it, 554 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 3: but it hadn't really hit it like, it hadn't hit 555 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: to the level that it I think it was, well, no, 556 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: it was out there, yeah, but it was like there 557 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: were at that point, I think there were only a 558 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: couple of women who were accusing him of inappropriate conduct. 559 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: It wasn't you know. 560 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 3: I don't think the Browns knew there were twenty three women, yeah, 561 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: you know involved, but that I guess. 562 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 4: That would be. 563 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's as close to let me see when he 564 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: was traded, Like what age he was at when he 565 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: was traded. 566 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 4: I think he was younger than twenty nine. I'm going 567 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: to guess I think he those. 568 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: Two he was twenty six. Okay, Yeah, so that would 569 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: be the closest here. You're talking about a guy that 570 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: looks like a franchise quarterback. 571 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: Now he was, no, he wasill his rookie. 572 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: Contract, like at the end of it, he knew he 573 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: needed a new contract. Yeah, if I remember correctly, like 574 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: the Texans hadn't given him an extension yet. 575 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: I think that is I think that is correct. So 576 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 3: I mean I can't honestly Marino. 577 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 4: No, l Way, no, Kelly, No. 578 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: I mean Matt well Well Stafford was past his prime 579 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: when he got traded from Detroit. 580 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: Rights for golf yep. 581 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: Now there were I mean there were draft choices given 582 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: up by the Rams for that deal. Matter of fact, 583 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: there were significant draft choices given up by LA to 584 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: Detroit and he was thirty two and what did what 585 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: did LA have to give? 586 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: No? 587 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: See you? It was a pretty good haul, it was, No, 588 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: it definitely was. 589 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: It paid off even at thirty two. 590 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: Jered Goff and three draft picks twenty twenty two and 591 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three first rounders in a twenty twenty one 592 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: to third. 593 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: So two ones and a three and for a guy 594 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: who is thirty two plus the starting quarterback. 595 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: That's right, that's a great trade for Detroit. 596 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: Really was. 597 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: Oh yah. Again, that's not to say good for both teams. 598 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no. 599 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: Doubt, Like I mean the Rasant championship. But I'm just saying, like, 600 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: think about it. 601 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: From Detroit side. 602 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: They got a starting quarterback, they got all those draft 603 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: capa which, by the way, they've turned into very good players. 604 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: Yes, now that they have to pay all of them. 605 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 5: But and we know that the Bengals ownership is a problem. Yeah, 606 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: they're probably the cheapest guys in the league. Everybody knows that. 607 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 5: It doesn't seem like anybody wants to play there. Now, 608 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: Joe's from Ohio, so I'm sure there's something to that, 609 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: but I I think he's going to ask to be 610 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: traded and then they can rebuild their team. 611 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: It just feels like he could very easily in all 612 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: those answers last week, this week, all those answers, I 613 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: I am a Cincinnati Bengal and I want to be here. 614 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: We're building something here. 615 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: And he didn't even come close to that. Yeah, I agree. 616 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: He sort of painted the picture of like, well, anything's possible, 617 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: anybody can be traded anytime. 618 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: He's setting it up. 619 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: That what it feels like, Benjamin Albright is sauntered into 620 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: the studio. He's got about thirty minutes of Broncos Country 621 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: Tonight's coming up here at the top of the hour 622 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: before we hand things off to Colorado versus Portland States. 623 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: And once again, no fans. You're gonna be at that game. 624 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: We'll have the pregame action story at six thirty, the 625 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: tip will be at seven, and yeah, it's gonna be 626 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: as an interesting audio. We keep talking about what that'll 627 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: sound like with no fans. Look, Portland State has fans, Ryan, 628 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's one or two. 629 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're not gonna be That's like when somebody the 630 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 8: other day said Bill Belichick was blowing up his staff. 631 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: After a disappointing season. I'm like he could have just 632 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: fired him. 633 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: I mean, oh wow, okay, so what are you gonna 634 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: get into for your thirty minutes. 635 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 8: Of radio there, Ben, We'll just talk about the state 636 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 8: of the Broncos right now. Get everybody caught up on 637 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 8: the latest and greatest. With RJ looking like he might 638 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 8: be might be good to go, I think, uh, I 639 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 8: think Schrader might play this weekend. 640 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 4: We'll see. 641 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny listening to coach today Coach Payton 642 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: talk about how the Schrader move. Everybody read into that 643 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: as that is suddenly some kind of sign that r J. 644 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: Harvey wasn't available. 645 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 8: No, they tried to sign him UDFA out of Missouri 646 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 8: when and they didn't get him, and then they tried 647 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 8: to claim him on waivers and didn't get him, and 648 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 8: so they finally, I mean, they've been excited about this 649 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 8: guy for a while. 650 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: Have you heard anything on JK. 651 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: Dobbins Dave, I mean anything from because Sean sort of 652 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: intimated a couple of weeks ago. He's like, you know, 653 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 1: people had this expectation he's out for the season or not, 654 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: rise like it could be better than that. I have 655 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: not January minimum, I mean minimum, So I mean that's 656 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: that's playoffs. 657 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 8: That's that's minimum. I don't think he's going to be 658 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 8: ready then that. I would say minimum on that injury. 659 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 8: You're still looking at crack across the top of the foot, Dude, like, 660 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 8: that's that's up. 661 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: Rick. You've had a lot of injuries. You ever had, Frank? 662 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 5: Uh No, No, But I've had plant of factory. I 663 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 5: had a bad case of it, Dave. 664 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: Dave said that I've had listen, Frank, Frank starter. 665 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 4: But I didn't. 666 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: You know, when I found out my foot started hurting 667 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: about ten years ago, I was running went to the doctor. 668 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 4: I remembered this, and he came in and said, when 669 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 4: did you have the list Frank injury? I said, I didn't. 670 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 4: He goes, oh you did. 671 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I dis missed that. And what the orthopedic guy, 672 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: doctor Beckton was telling me. Yeah, I thought he was 673 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: talking about some woman. Realized my foot was broken, Frank. 674 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: But wow, all right. So, by the way, Dave, we 675 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: went to an O last night. 676 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 4: Well congratulations he did a good job. Yeah you as well. 677 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is nice. We we had New York and 678 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: they had the over the spurs blew that and the 679 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: fourth man they had to lead. 680 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: They just blew that in the fourth. 681 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: It was like a no contest, like New York ran 682 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: away with it in the fourths, led the entire game 683 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: until the fourth. 684 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: That the important, important time to ru away the one 685 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: quarter you would like to be lead? 686 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 8: Is that in honor of Ryan is Yeah, we're my 687 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 8: my finest Russian cosmonaut dog shirt and in honor of 688 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 8: Ryan cosmonaut Edwards. 689 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: Well, now now Rick is joining me in the fox hole, 690 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: apparently with communism. 691 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 4: Oh okay, no, Dave took me out. He's not there 692 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: by yourself. No he's not. We're got back to capitalism here. 693 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 4: And yeah, Rick is a capitalist. 694 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: I love the state, but you said. 695 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: Not cost New York. 696 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: Sorry, Ryan, You're on your own in there. 697 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm still not communist, but whatever reason