1 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, does Daffy fi coach class at all, because you 2 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: pretty much need workout gear. 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: Just to be able to fit in those seats. 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: With all the contortions you gotta go through to fit 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: in those little, tiny little seats that you're lucky if 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: they fit your hips much less your shoulders. 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe he just try flying coach. 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 4: The revival of dressing up for planes is stupid. You 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 4: can't wear belts or shoes. Nobody can dress up without 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 4: belts and shoes when you gotta put them on that 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 4: dumb tsa conveyor belt. 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Good morning, John Scott from larth Bridge. A leader can 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: never not lead. 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: It's always important to dress well. 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: Hey, good morning guys, John. 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 5: I actually had this conversation with my wife when Sean 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 5: Duffy came out and said, let's let's take flying a 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 5: little more serious. I explained it to my wife and 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 5: the same way that I want a conservative governor of Minnesota. 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 5: You're not going to get the greatest, most conservative individual. 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 5: You got to start somewhere in the middle first, for. 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: So far left. 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, you don't have to go straight to 24 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 5: the three piece suit when you're flying. Let's just start 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 5: with not wearing pajama. 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can get on board. I can get on 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: board with that. I can get I can get on 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: board with that. 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 6: But my question remains, why, what what are we solving 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 6: by not? 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to look at an incredibly slovenly individual. 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: I would rather not be seated next to a slav. 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: I think that there's a board. I think that there 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: are Well, why is wearing sweatpants slavin? No, I don't think. 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: I don't think in and of itself, sweatpants are slovenly. 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: I also think that there's varying definitions of what that 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: can entail. Like some but he could actually look at 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: what I'm wearing today and say like these are sweatpants 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: when technically you call them it's like more like joggers. Right, yeah, 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: they're in the sweatpants family. No, but there are individuals 41 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: that do they literally go and they dress in their pjs, 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: like me going to the airport wearing my you know, 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: Mandalorian and Grogu pjs and hopping on a flight. Do 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: you want to sit you want to sit next to me? Wan, 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm bring Mando and Grogu. 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 6: Do you have deodoran on? If yes, then I'll be fine. 47 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 6: If no, then it probably wouldn't matter either way whatever 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 6: you were wearing. 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: Ah, let's go try to look at the top. Oh man, 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: we got a lot of talkbacks. All right, we need 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: to reset the reset the stage here. We have other 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: things to get to us. I rifle through the talkbacks 53 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: this morning, so we'll continue to take your comments here 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one oh 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: three five FM from the six five to one Carpet 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: Next Day install and studios. Let's go here. 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to point out a very important fact that 58 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Sean dup If he was selected to be the Secretary 59 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: of Transportation because of his time on MTV's Road Rules, 60 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: and so we shouldn't be downgrading his understanding of what 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: travel is supposed to look like and how you're supposed 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: to look when you're traveling, and so we should be 63 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: listening to exactly what he's saying. 64 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 7: Hey, John David from Shorewood, first time talkbacker here, enjoy 65 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 7: the show. Thank you so much. Hey. On the topic 66 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 7: of travel, I think that at leisurewear is the way 67 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 7: to go. Give with the times people. Yeah, I'm still 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 7: agree be presentable and have a crisp look yeah, but 69 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 7: also be comfortable at leisure. Wearers might go to traveling. Thanks, 70 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 7: enjoy the show, have a great holidays, and Merry Christmas, Hoby. 71 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: I think we all have varying definitions of an individual 72 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: who you would say is dressed like a slob. And 73 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: I've been on flights dressed next two slobs. I just 74 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: would rather not be on a flight dress next to 75 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: a slob. And typically what comes with that is bad 76 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: hijiing too. 77 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 6: So well, that's the key distinction is if there is 78 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 6: bad higien involved, then I get that. But it's not 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 6: like if a person wears the odor and brust their teeth, 80 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 6: but is wearing say, socks and sandals, socks and slides. 81 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 6: It's not like going to infect you with the slovenly 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 6: like by sitting next to them, all of a sudden, 83 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 6: you're infected, and now you're gonna be, you know, wearing 84 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 6: pajamas all of a sudden. 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: It's just like, okay, they were not good morning, John. 86 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 8: Former neighbor Mike here, I can directly tell you when 87 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 8: casualness started nineteen ninety two. Oh and the progenitor of 88 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 8: it was Jack Welch, then chairman of General Electric. I 89 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 8: wore a suit to work every day for the ten 90 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 8: years prior to that, and I worked in. 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: An aluminum boundary with molten metal coming at me. 92 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 8: Jack Welch casual everything out and that's when attitudes changed. 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 8: And he's the guy that wanted everything to go to China. 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: Have a good day for now. Let's go ahead and 95 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: let this comment from a friend of the show be 96 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: the final word on this topic as we move on 97 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: to other issues. I just appreciate his candidness and laying 98 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: down his feelings on the matter. What the real I do. 99 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 9: Think being implemented. I doubt that I'm gonna be flying anytime, Shillman. 100 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 9: I don't like flying in the first place. As far 101 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 9: as the TFA crap, and I'm not gonna address all 102 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 9: fancy while I have to go through tsay crap. I'm 103 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 9: gonna wear the easiest clothes possible. 104 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: I gotta ask Logan, he's my pilot son. I gotta 105 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: see what his thoughts on I mean, he wants to 106 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: be a commercial hairline pilot, so I'd be curious with 107 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: his thoughts. And friend of the show Ben if he 108 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: happens to be listening, but usually he gets caught up 109 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: on the podcast, he's a Delta pilot. 110 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 6: Past one more question? Sure, why are we turning on TSA? 111 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 6: That was the second talk fact that is turning on TSA. 112 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 6: I feel like they serve an important purpose. 113 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they get the brunt, They get the brunt of 114 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people's ire, even though a lot of 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: times they're just following directions. I think it's I think 116 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: it's tough because that's gotta be one pretty thankless job 117 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: to not really a fun job. Correct, Sorry, you're dealing 118 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: with the public all day long. Yes, for because of 119 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: all that, generally speaking, your attitude is not going to 120 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: be the best. So I don't think a lot of 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: people consider that when they go flying and it just 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: comes down to, ugh, I'm going through security. TSA looks miserable. 123 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: Now I'm miserable. And I think this plays into the 124 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: entire conversation in and of itself, and part of what 125 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: Duffy was saying though, if we can kind of elevate 126 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: the experience in any way, shape or form, and I 127 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: liked the comment of well that degrades the experience if 128 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: we're wearing a suit. Let me tell you, well, it doesn't. 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: I mean, for me, if I've got an individual seated 130 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: next to me on a flight in a suit, I'm going, 131 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: you know, I think that's nice. That's I think that's good. 132 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is I like the talk back 133 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: that was laying out how Duffy's not saying everybody wear suits, 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: but maybe just reconsider dressing a little bit nicer when 135 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: you go on a flight, start off with little tiny steps. 136 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: But the TSA thing, I think it's just because it's 137 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: a miserable experience from the time you arrive at the 138 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: airport until you actually get on the flight. And let's 139 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: be honest, the flights aren't really all that much fun 140 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: unless you're my son and he just likes to go 141 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: and travel on airliners. So the whole experience is kind 142 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: of kind of miserable. No, it's it's not fun dealing 143 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: with them. And I can understand I could put myself 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 2: in their shoes and be you know, pissy as well, 145 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: but I feel like they're we can't just throw out 146 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: the baby with the bathwater, because I'd rather have them 147 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: do that than not. Okay, I'm gonna let this one 148 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: be the last comment on this for now. 149 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think We can sum this conversation up by 150 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 10: basically saying, dress for the role that you want in life. 151 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 10: Dress for where you want to be in life. If 152 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 10: you want to be in sweatpants and if you want 153 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 10: to be in pajamas and that's how you want to 154 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 10: be portrayed in life, then that's great. But if you 155 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 10: want to get somewhere, and if you want to be professional, 156 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 10: and if you want to meet great people and be 157 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 10: treated with respect, then dress like it. 158 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: That's all right. I'm gonna stop you there. I know 159 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: I can see it on your face. We got to 160 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: move on. I know, I know you want to Leah, 161 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: I got you. If you want, you can. If you want, 162 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: you can turn if your mic and go leave a 163 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: talkback and then I can go and play that if 164 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: you'd like. You gotta go that wrap. Well, you gotta 165 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: get those numbers up. Let's go here. This may have 166 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: listened a few phone calls. Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty 167 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: yesterday announced a brand new policy aimed at preventing false 168 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: confessions and protecting children's constitutional rights. Okay, prosecutors will now 169 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: now stop using statements from children thirteen and under Under 170 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: the new policy, prosecutors will no longer use as evidence 171 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: in court statements from those who are thirteen and under. 172 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: In addition, they will only use statements from children who 173 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: are between fourteen and seventeen if certain conditions are met. 174 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: I guess immediately, why, I just go, why don't you 175 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: just use that policy on all students? I mean, on 176 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: all children. Now I'll get to their rationale why. But 177 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: that's the part of this that I don't like, is 178 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: that you having conditions for fourteen and seventeen if certain 179 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: conditions are met, why limit yourself and why not just 180 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: apply that same rule to those thirteen and under. The 181 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: policy will not apply in situations where officers questions are 182 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: to prevent the child or someone else from being injured. 183 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 2: Morey already said her office has been working on the 184 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: policy for months. Okay, well, that's what they've been doing 185 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: in not prosecuting criminals. Pointed out a high profile murder 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: case in which she said it would have been useful. 187 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: There was an individual who was sixteen arrested in charge 188 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,479 Speaker 2: with a murder in North Minneapolis, never confessed, was convicted, 189 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: spent time in prison, but he did not apparently commit 190 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: the crime was exonerated after a judge rule that his 191 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: conviction hinged on an unconstitutional eyewitness testimony. There's no details 192 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: in the story from Fox nine about what or not 193 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: the age I had anything to do with that, but 194 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: that does it may false confessions, they say in the story, 195 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: are a nationwide problem. According to the data released by 196 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: the Hennipen County Attorney's Office, thirty five percent of exonerated 197 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: people who were charged as children gave false confessions. The 198 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: office said the number nearly doubles to sixty percent when 199 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: the children are charged under fourteen. According to the data, 200 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: I'd be curious to know what exactly they're looking at 201 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: in terms of this data and what the criteria is 202 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: as well. Let me back up a little bit. I 203 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: just don't trust anything coming out of the Hennepin County 204 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Attorney's Office at all. Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty, it's 205 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: such such damaged goods. Mariarty said there could be at 206 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: least one downside to the policy, though she said it 207 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: would be rare. I suppose there could be a scenario 208 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: where a child confesses to some type of crime and 209 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: that's the only evidence that we have so we may 210 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: not be able to charge it more already said her 211 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: office worked with the Hennepen County Chiefs of Police Association 212 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: when they formulated the policy. When reached for comment via 213 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: email on Wednesday, the organization said it would not have 214 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: a response until today, So keep an eye on what 215 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: exactly they say. And as I mentioned before, why not 216 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: just use discretion. Why have a planket policy wherein you're 217 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: taking away any possibility of an under thirteen year old's testimony. 218 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: The other aspect of this too, and I'd be curious 219 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: to know if you have any thoughts on this. We 220 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: have another example of liberal hypocrisy. Though miners can drag 221 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: their parents to court, legally go and disassociate with them 222 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: if the parent doesn't support their gender identity, children can 223 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: choose their own gender identity and then get life time 224 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: damage health work. I'm not calling it care because it's 225 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 2: not care to go and do anything relating to gender 226 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: reassignment surgery or drugs to any child who was under 227 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: the age of eighteen. That's not healthcare, that's just health work. 228 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: But they can be but they can't be trusted to 229 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: be a witness to a crime. I mean, which way 230 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: are we going to go on this whole thing. We'll 231 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: get to your talkbacks coming up from the iHeartRadio app 232 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: in just a moment here on Twin City's News Talk, 233 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: and then we will dive into yesterday's House Fraud Committee meeting. 234 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: Rather interesting commentary and pushback coming from Governor Tim Walls. 235 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: We have a lot of audio to share on the 236 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: way as well, and as I mentioned, we'll get to 237 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: your comments from the iHeartRadio app talkbacks brought to you 238 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: by Lyndahl Realty next here on Twin City's News Talk 239 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: AM eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. 240 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 11: Good morning, John, addressed for the job I want. 241 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 3: So now I'm sitting in my Batman T shirt and 242 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: hr yay, great Christmas. 243 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: For dressing for the job that we want. I'm wearing 244 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: an Alex Bowman NASCAR shirt. 245 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 8: So on. 246 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: Mary Moriarty and her uh no longer taking any witness 247 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: testimony from those under the age of thirteen. Again, it 248 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: just makes me shake my head at how democrats just 249 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: pick and choose when a child is intelligent enough to 250 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: make certain decisions. So in this case, a minor Nope, 251 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: can't take their testimony. Were relating to crime Oh, but 252 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: they can go and choose whether or not they're a 253 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: boy or a girl. Yeah, make it make sense. 254 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 12: All you had to do was say the word moriarty 255 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 12: and I immediately turned off anything. 256 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: She's come up with absolutely nothing. 257 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 12: The woman has zero. 258 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know you got cut off there. But 259 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: she's dangerous, especially since she's not running for reelection. She's 260 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: absolutely dangerous. She's completely un hinged from having to worry 261 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: about what the public thinks about her. She is a 262 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: true religious zealot when it comes to her social justice disbeliefs, 263 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: since she continues to implement them to the detriment of 264 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: the people in Hennepin County. Speaking of detriments Hennepin County, 265 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: but also State of Minnesota, Governor Tim Walls yesterday posted outrageous. 266 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: He wrote, he wrote, or whoever runs his account, maybe 267 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: it's Hope Walls. I expect my Republican colleagues to attack 268 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: me in an election year, but to actively cover up 269 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: fraud in an attempt to further a political agenda is 270 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: beyond the pale. This needs to be resolved immediately. So 271 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: what is Governor Tim Walls going on about? The buffoon 272 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,359 Speaker 2: is commenting on how the House Fraud Committee was withholding 273 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: whistleblower tips from DHS investigations. Now that should immediately click 274 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: for you, going, wait, what the whistleblowers wouldn't be needed 275 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: if their concerns over fraud red flags weren't ignored by 276 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: the Walls administration. It's that very point as to why 277 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: there are whistleblowers in the first place, because there are 278 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: individuals within DHS, within the Walls Administration that we're looking 279 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: at the data, the requests coming from these various programs 280 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: that have turned out to be investigated for fraud or 281 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: have become fraudulent, and when they brought those concerns to 282 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: the upper chains of command within the Walls administration, they 283 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: were either ignored or sometimes individuals were threatened to keep 284 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: their mouths shut. And now Walls wants to sit back 285 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: and act like, oh, it's just they're actively trying to 286 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: cover things up just the absolute worse. It's getting tiresome 287 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: at this point, but it doesn't mean it's not true. 288 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: It's pure gas lighting by Governor Tim Walls. So let 289 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: me keep jump to speed on what took place last night, 290 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: and I'm going to refer to a friend of the 291 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: show and Representative Walter Hudson who posted this clip after 292 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: the Minnesota House Fraud Prevention and Stay to oversight a 293 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: policy committee meeting that took place yesterday. 294 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: So we just saw in our most recent fraud committee 295 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: hearing that took place here today, more theater of the absurd. 296 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: Here's the top line. One of our. 297 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: Legislative staff, single handedly, using nothing but publicly available information, 298 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: was able to piece together a web of concerning red 299 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: flags regarding multiple individuals, multiple businesses, and of course agencies 300 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: that are providing payments for these Medicare services. The response 301 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: to that research from Democrats was to jump on us 302 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: and accuse it of being a partisan political operation. Why 303 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: because we didn't share the information with them ahead of time. 304 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: Where we didn't share the information with the department, the 305 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: information is readily available for literally anybody. All you gotta 306 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: do is take a look. So what you're telling me 307 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: is that one guy, one legislative staffer can put in 308 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: the work to connect these dots, but a state agency 309 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: with hundreds of employees needs us to hand that over 310 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: them in order for them to know what's going on. 311 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: Thanks for proving our point, all right, Thanks for proving 312 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: the point that one guy who doesn't have access to 313 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: all of their behind the scenes systems tracking payments and whatnot, 314 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: can put together a concerning web of red flags. 315 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: But you can't. It's astounding. 316 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: Another one of the great comments from the hearing today 317 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 3: was that we need to just trust our providers for 318 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 3: these medicaid services. We need to do a better job 319 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: upfront of vetting them so that we can make sure 320 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 3: that we trust them, because by god, we don't have 321 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: the capacity to actually make sure that they're doing what 322 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: they're supposed to be doing after the fact, even when 323 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: there's twenty some odd businesses running out of the same 324 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: building in downtown Saint Paul's astounding. 325 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: To Walter's point, I had a listener that reached out 326 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: to me this week, and it wasn't in a negative. 327 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: They genuinely wanted to know I've been sharing on the show. 328 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: How if you go back to the Biden years, the 329 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: time when Biden was in office in the midst of 330 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: all these ice circumstances wherein they're serving warrants, arresting criminal, 331 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: illegal aliens, and the protesters are showing up, and then 332 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: you get Brian O'Hara out there comparing immigrants that are 333 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: being arrested for being here illegally and also committing other crimes, 334 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: to marrying Joseph and the Madinger and the birth of 335 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ right, and how none 336 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: of them cared because in the years of Biden was 337 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: in office, you had almost approximately four thousand arrests by 338 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: ICE of illegal aliens here in the state, and they 339 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: never said anything. I had a listener that reached out 340 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: and was like, where are you getting your data from? 341 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: What's what's what's the source? And I went, well, it's easy, 342 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: it's the Department of Homeland Security. But I just hit 343 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: a Google search and it comes right up. And again 344 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: it wasn't a negative on the on the on the listener, 345 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: they genuinely wanted to share it with other people, Like 346 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: what I'm talking about is what Walter is saying. It's 347 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: that simple. Any news media outlet could go and do 348 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: what I did and make the point of if you 349 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: guys are all up in arms about what's happening now, 350 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: why don't you go and look and see how many 351 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: times immigrants here in Minnesota were arrested by ICE in 352 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 2: the years prior, and you guys didn't say anything, and 353 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: the same thing rings true with what's taking place here 354 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: and this idea that Walls is, you know, apoplectic about 355 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: actively covering up the fraud. They're not sharing this with us. 356 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: The data is readily available. All you have to do 357 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: is go look. And apparently we've uncovered the real issue here, 358 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: and it is the complete lack of curiosity coming from 359 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls in this administration. They simply don't They 360 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: are not curious, they don't care. You apply whatever rationale 361 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: you would like to apply as to why they wouldn't 362 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: want to look and why they don't care. We'll get 363 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: into more of this coming up in just a moment. 364 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: I have audio to share from that committee meeting, including 365 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: the chair of the Fraud Prevention Estate Oversight Policy Committee 366 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: and gubernatorial candidate, Representative Kristen Robbins, and we'll get some 367 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: more of your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app here on 368 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: twin City's News Talk from at am eleven thirty and 369 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: one oh three five FM. 370 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 13: John, I've been working with the government for over ten years. 371 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 13: They get dumber by the day. Ninety plus percent of 372 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 13: them do absolutely nothing. We could fire three quarters of 373 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 13: the government tomorrow, and the only people who had noticed 374 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 13: are the three quarters of the government aren't getting a paycheck. 375 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 13: Everyone else would see the system as drastically. 376 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 14: Good morning, John and Brett. Over the past several years, 377 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 14: you have played many of my talkbacks, to which I 378 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 14: can only say thank you. I am grateful and I 379 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 14: am humbled to have been able to have an opportunity 380 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 14: to have my voice heard on what I consider one 381 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 14: of the best talk show programs in the country. And 382 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 14: I just want to tell you guys, I appreciate you 383 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 14: for the sacrifices you make by the early hours you 384 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 14: keep and I hope you have a great Christmas. 385 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Scott, I appreciate it. 386 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 15: Hey, John Mick calling in from Arizona. What drives me 387 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,239 Speaker 15: crazy and makes me want to just give up and 388 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 15: not care anymore is people like Walls and people on 389 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 15: the left in general can just say anything and it 390 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 15: doesn't matter. There's no consequences. 391 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: They can say one. 392 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 15: Thing today and another thing tomorrow and it doesn't matter. 393 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: I completely agree. I completely agree, it really really is. 394 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: It's I don't know how else to describe it other 395 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: than just unfor fortunate, and I can share I'm not 396 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: going to waste time on the show, but I could. 397 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: I can share instances within conservative circles, even even recently, 398 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: wherein individuals are out there spouting nonsense and fellow conservatives 399 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: just don't stand for it. They don't let it, they 400 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 2: don't let it slide. There are standards that are held 401 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: on the right that the left just simply does not have. 402 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: Right now, Walls continuing to go out and perpetuate this 403 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: lie about a special session and how the Republicans just 404 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: won't take a vote, and prominent individuals buy into this garbage. 405 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: They accept the excuses that Walls puts forward. They make 406 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: excuses for him, saying, well, right, he can't call a 407 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: special He's the only one that can call a special session. 408 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: Nobody else can. But why would he call a special 409 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: session if it's just going to be that they're going 410 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: to go and vote it down. Okay, but you can't 411 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: go and say that Republicans aren't willing to take a vote, 412 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: if you're not going to give Republicans the opportunity to 413 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: go and take a vote. And we all know the 414 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: reason why is because he doesn't have the votes in 415 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: the Senate in order to get he's going to reform 416 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 2: measures past. 417 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 16: You know, Walls may not be wrong, they may be 418 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 16: truly stunned that they were able to come up with 419 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 16: this information, because you know, if there's no accountability for 420 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 16: any of these programs, is there any accountability for the 421 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 16: employees in the state. A lot of them are still 422 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 16: working remotely. Are they held accountable for the amount of 423 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 16: work that they get done? Chances are they really don't 424 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 16: know how to get anything done. I mean, look at 425 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 16: how they run the state. So it doesn't surprise me 426 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 16: too much. 427 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: So Walls wrote yesterday this is what caught my attention, 428 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: saying it's outrageous. I expect Republican colleagues to attack me 429 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: in an election year, but to actively cover up an 430 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: attempt to further a political agenda is really beyond the pale. 431 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: This needs to be resolved immediately, and he was responding 432 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: to the fact that Representative Christian Robbins, chair of the 433 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: Minnesota House Fraud Prevention and State Oversight Policy Committee, shared 434 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: Wednesday that whistleblower tips that had come to the GOP 435 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: leadership have not been forwarded to the Department of Human Services. Instead, 436 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: robin said they were being sent to other investigators, including 437 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: the US Attorney's Office. 438 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 17: Thank you. 439 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: I'd like to respond to that. 440 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 18: So, we did receive your letter, Inspector General, asking us 441 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 18: to share information with you on credible whistleblower reports, and 442 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 18: to date we have not because there is no trust. 443 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 18: As you might understand, this fraud has been perpetuated on 444 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 18: your watch, and the whistleblowers who reach out to us 445 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 18: within the department are terrified and they feel that they've 446 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 18: been retaliated against already. 447 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: They feel that they are very afraid. 448 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 18: They're afraid to reach out to us, and if they thought. 449 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: We were then turning around. 450 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 18: And giving it to you, we would not have whistleblowers. 451 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 18: So we initiated a whistleblower portal last spring in response 452 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 18: to people who were afraid to come to you, and 453 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 18: that has received hundreds of tips. 454 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: Belatedly, you all also. 455 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 18: Put out a whistleblower report portal this fall, which I 456 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 18: think hopefully is also generating tips. But when I get 457 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 18: credible allegations of fraud from whistleblowers, we meet with them, 458 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 18: we interview them. We ferreted out as much as possible, 459 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 18: but as you know, legislators do not have access to 460 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 18: bank records, health records, subpoena power the swift payment system 461 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 18: that the state uses to pay things. So I can 462 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 18: only get an investigation so far, but when we get it, 463 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 18: we go to the US Attorney, the FBI, and the 464 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 18: Office of Legislative Auditor, who have access to all those records. 465 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: So our whistleblowers are. 466 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 18: Being protected and they are also being reviewed for further investigation. 467 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 18: And I would like to have a more collaborative relationship 468 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 18: with you. But I have to say, if whistle flowers 469 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 18: thought we were turning everything over to you, it would 470 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 18: stop again. 471 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: The whistleblowers wouldn't be needed if their concerns over fraud 472 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: and red flags weren't ignored by the Walls administration. So 473 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: I sat down for my lunch yesterday steak salad left 474 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: over from the day before. It was quite nice. We 475 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: got these, uh, we got a container of these mozzarella 476 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: balls in oil from Costco recently. I know, Brett, you're 477 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: looking at me like, what in the world are you 478 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 2: talking about? They're so tasty. So yeah, they're they're months 479 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 2: there's just balls of mozzarella. You know, I don't know 480 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: what you would, you know, like Hershey's kiss sized, but 481 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: you know, globes and they're just in oil. 482 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 9: So good. 483 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: I threw some of those in there with my steak 484 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: and some lettuce. And did you take the sample from 485 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: behind the desk or in front of the desk? 486 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 16: Oh? 487 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: From from in front? Originally? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw 488 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 2: somebody almost. Melinda pointed out a Costco recently that a 489 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: guy almost did that, and she still becomes like, don't 490 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: do it, dude. For those that don't recall, I was 491 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: a castle one go back. Yeah, yeah, it was a 492 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: while ago now, but I reached in to get a sample. 493 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: But I came in from behind the woman who was 494 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: cooking the food at the at the isle sample spot, 495 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: and she slapped my hand. I still haven't gotten over that, 496 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: by the way. So I sit down for my lunch yesterday, 497 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: the whole point of why I'm bringing this up. I 498 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: sit down for my lunch, I turn on YouTube, and 499 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 2: sure enough, it was right as the Fraud Committee hearing that. 500 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: You're hearing the clips from what's going on, and thankfully 501 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: I was able to listen to and watch it live. 502 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: That clip that you just heard from Representative Kristin Robbins, 503 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: goubernatorial candidate. What preceded it was commentary from DFLER Representative 504 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 2: Emma Greenman. Second time this week, she makes an appearance 505 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: on the show, and it was laughable. She was droning 506 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: on and on about how frustrating it was that this 507 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: was partisan. You guys aren't working together in a bipartisan 508 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 2: fashion and sharing this information with us, And I'm just laughing, 509 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,239 Speaker 2: like I can't even get to my salad because I'm 510 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: laughing at the television. I'm laughing at this ridiculous Democrat 511 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: who's out there talking like they ever ever want to 512 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: negotiate or be bipartisan with Republicans. Ever, during the time 513 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: when they had the trifecta, they could not ignore Republicans 514 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: harder if they tried. And yet during all of this, 515 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 2: because they're being exposed for the horrible party that they are, 516 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: and she's sitting back going, oh, I just can't you know, 517 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 2: he's just so partisan. You're not sharing this information with us, 518 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: How can it be trusted? The House Prevention Committee Fraud 519 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Prevention Committee, which has a Republican majority, set up a 520 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: new whistleblower hotline earlier this year. Robin said that there 521 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: are hundreds of tips that have been received through the hotline. 522 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 18: Privately in my office over the months, and we have 523 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 18: a good dialogue. I also think what would build trust 524 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 18: is responses to my inquiry. So after every hearing since June, 525 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 18: I've sent letters to the department asking for additional data. 526 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 18: I've had one response and it was after a press inquiry. 527 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 18: So I have six outstanding data requests to the Department 528 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 18: that I'm still waiting for information on. So would help 529 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 18: build trust if you would respond to me. So we 530 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 18: will continue to work on building trust. And I really 531 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 18: mean that, but it has to be a two way street. 532 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: After the committee meeting on Wednesday, Channel five had asked 533 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: the Minnesota DHS Inspector General James Clark, who is tasked 534 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: with stopping fraud and taxpayer funded safety net programs, about 535 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: the tips not being shared with his office. He says, 536 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: I want to work in partnership with anybody that is 537 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: serious in tackling these issues. Clark said, if you have 538 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: evidence I can use to stop payments going to frosters, 539 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: I would much like that information. 540 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 9: Now. 541 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: A part of what was exposed during this committee meeting 542 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: yesterday was this idea of trust and never verify. This 543 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: has basically been the Governor Tim walls administrative policy position 544 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: until right now, trust but never verify. This is the 545 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: excuse that they're using as to why there was no 546 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: alarm bells going off. Why DHS employees raising red flags 547 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: about the dramatic increase in funding requests to these programs 548 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: basically went completely ignored. It was this idea of trust 549 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: but never verify. I have another clip I want to 550 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: share with you here in just a moment, and a 551 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: portion of this is from James Clark from DHS. Let's 552 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: go here really quick to the iHeartRadio app. Your talkback's 553 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: brought to you by Lyndall Realty. 554 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 9: Fresh Malad, Thabrella and oil and State Salad. Mean, Oh 555 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 9: my god, God, I'm tellings and I'm kind of a 556 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 9: boon s nab. 557 00:30:59,680 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 7: Yep. 558 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 19: There's absolutely no trust whatsoever there. And you know, the 559 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 19: hole in the boat is getting bigger, and the more 560 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 19: that the Democrats bail to try to cover this up, 561 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 19: the more the whole is getting bigger. So I would 562 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 19: encourage those who have knowledge to come forward and save yourselves. Otherwise, 563 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 19: here going down with the boat. 564 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 12: Have a good day. 565 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: Here's here's a portion James Clark from DHS and the 566 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: Minnesota House and Fraud Oversight Committee. Again he's asked about 567 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: this trust and never verify. And here is the exchange 568 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: back and forth yesterday in Saint Paul. 569 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 17: What have we done about looking at attendance records? Because 570 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 17: we saw what for example, feed in their future it 571 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 17: was all fake names. And you know in this case 572 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 17: they have to they have to have something authorized to medicaid, 573 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 17: which I appreciate. We've heard from numerous county officials about 574 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 17: the pressure that they get to approve socially senior care 575 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 17: and accept the sentence. So it's all fraudulent. But what 576 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 17: have we done about the attendance records? Because if we're 577 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 17: only going out in every two years and you know, 578 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 17: peaking to see if they have, you know, something going out, 579 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 17: we don't know that they're actually spending twelve hours a 580 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 17: day or eight hours a day at what used to 581 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 17: be a senior center, you know, years ago in some cases. 582 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 13: So what are we doing about that? 583 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 12: Thank you? 584 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 20: Representative Anderson. So reviewing attendance records is a part of 585 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 20: our licensing site visits, right, But like you said, those 586 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 20: don't happen every year, right, we have limited capacity. We 587 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 20: have not only adult day but thousands and thousands and 588 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 20: thousands right of license medicaid programs in the state. So 589 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 20: license periodic licensing reviews would be one way that we're 590 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 20: looking at attendance records. Another way we would be looking 591 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 20: at attendance records would be if we are receiving tips 592 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 20: of fraud or attendance falsification. If we're receiving those tips 593 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 20: that investigate like fraud investigators would go out and investigate providers. 594 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 20: But I think what you're getting at is we I 595 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 20: mean medicaid also is it's a trust based system, right, 596 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 20: Like we do not have the staff at DHS. We 597 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 20: do not have the technology to be looking over everyone's 598 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 20: shoulder verifying every attendance record making sure that every bill 599 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 20: that submit to us is appropriate. 600 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 7: Right. 601 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 20: We need to be able to trust the providers that 602 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 20: they are doing the right thing. So what can we 603 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 20: do on the front end to make sure that we 604 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 20: weed out as many untrustworthy providers as possible. That's where 605 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 20: I think we need to be focusing as a state 606 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 20: because what you're getting at, right is like we're only 607 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 20: doing licensing reviews every couple of years, right, and then 608 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 20: we're only responding to tips like when we get them, 609 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 20: So what are what are we missing? And a part 610 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 20: of that is we just need to be able to 611 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 20: trust these providers that are entering our programs. So what 612 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 20: can we do to vet to verify that these are 613 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 20: trustworthy businesses and individuals that we're doing business with? SS 614 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 20: State so happy to partner with you on solutions too, 615 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 20: but provider vetting on the front end is where we 616 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 20: need to be focusing our efforts if we want to 617 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 20: get ahead of fraud in our state. 618 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: Here's the thought, because I've heard this excuse, because that's 619 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: what it is, it's an excuse. I've heard this excuse 620 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 2: coming from individuals in the Walls administration that they don't 621 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: have enough manpower to do the necessary reviews. They only 622 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: go out and audit these various social servicing programs on 623 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: rare occasions because they simply don't have the manpower to 624 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: go and review all these different services. Well, then stop 625 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: issuing and approving app Stop approving applications and issuing license 626 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: is for individuals to provide these services. If you don't 627 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: have the man power to go and check on those services, 628 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: how is this? How is this this hard? You shouldn't 629 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: be going and giving licenses to daycare centers and autism centers. 630 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 2: You shouldn't be going and giving these licenses wherein Medicaid 631 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: dollars are requested if you don't have the man power 632 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: in order to go and inspect these different services that 633 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: are being provided, unless you just want the fraud it. 634 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, and 635 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: more than likely, more than likely, this is a circumstance 636 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: where this just never happens. This probably happens all over 637 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 2: the place. It doesn't make it right, though, I'm just 638 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: tired of hearing this excuse. If you don't have the 639 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: manpower to inspect these places, then you should only be 640 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: authorizing enough different applications and handing out licenses for the 641 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: places you can actually go and inspect. 642 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 21: John. 643 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 13: This is the blueprint that DFL. 644 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 21: Is using across the country to turn our country into 645 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 21: a third world nation where they have a strong go. 646 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 13: Hold on power indefinitely. 647 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 21: Let illegals come in here, vote for them, get free benefits, 648 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 21: get all kinds of stuff for free off the backs 649 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 21: of people working, and if they'll keep voting for them, 650 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 21: Walls is just the one dumb enough to buy it all. 651 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 13: Get exposed so yeah, our work fits for him. 652 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he got away with it for a long time. 653 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 2: This is a lengthier clip. I'll see how much I'll 654 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: get in here. But to my point, the Walls administration 655 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: could not even answer during this Fraud Committee hearing that 656 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 2: took place yesterday. They couldn't even answer Representative Schultz and 657 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 2: one simple question, what do you ask for from providers 658 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: to prove that they have any level of expertise in 659 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: providing the care? Or are there no qualifications? They couldn't 660 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: even answer this question. 661 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 12: Thank you, Adam Chair. I am struck a little bit 662 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 12: by some of the things shared today, but just following 663 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 12: this train of thought of the last couple questions here 664 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 12: from an agency perspective, as you're looking at the licensing 665 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 12: of these providers, what do you ask for from providers 666 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 12: to prove that they have any level of expertise in 667 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 12: providing this care? Or are there no qualifications that they 668 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 12: need to have? Can they just be some individual right 669 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 12: off the street that starts a new business in this space? 670 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 12: What additional background are you seeking that has resulted in 671 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 12: this large increase in number of providers? 672 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 20: Thanks for the question, Representative Schultz. So unfortunately I don't 673 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 20: have all of the statutes in front of me, but 674 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 20: each license service has statutes and rules which lays out 675 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 20: the requirements for obtaining licensure. I don't know if it's 676 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 20: across the board, but some of those statues do require 677 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 20: an evaluation of competency to be made by the department. 678 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 20: So to the extent we as a state want to 679 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 20: look at that, and I think it's it's we should 680 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 20: be looking at potentially raising the qualifications, raising the competency levels, 681 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 20: raising what we expect from providers, so that that's my opinion, 682 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 20: might not be the department's opinion, but I think anything 683 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 20: we can do to vet on the front end to 684 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 20: make sure that providers that are getting licenses are competent 685 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 20: and qualified to provide these services, I am one hundred 686 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 20: percent on board for that and examining where those gaps 687 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 20: may exist. But to answer your question, each of these 688 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 20: services have different licensing requirements and different requirements about what 689 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 20: showings need to be made in order to get licensed, 690 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 20: and so that's another thing. So we have an incredibly 691 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 20: complicated system with different rules across these license services. So 692 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 20: thinking about how we can make it more uniform also 693 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 20: is something I think we work on as a state representations. 694 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 12: Well, thank you, Adam Chair and Inspector General. I'm glad 695 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 12: to hear you share a lot of that, and I 696 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 12: think that you know, whether it's what we hear from 697 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 12: whistleblowers or from Minnesotan's I think if we followed the 698 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 12: precept that you outlined, we might see a higher level 699 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 12: of care for those people too, for the people who 700 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 12: actually need it. 701 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: Right, But Inspector. 702 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 12: General, I think that that then brings me to something 703 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 12: you said earlier and something I want to kind of 704 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 12: follow down the line of and we talked about following 705 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 12: billing patterns. You spent a moment of the day talking 706 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 12: about the role that counties play in collecting this information, 707 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 12: that it's a social service individual who ultimately grants this 708 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 12: ability for this care. What do you think, Inspector General, 709 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 12: do we need to do. Do we need to add 710 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 12: to statute so that there is a greater level of 711 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 12: scrutin me that a county employee places over whether or 712 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 12: not that individual receives care spector channel' Clark. 713 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 20: I guess I would be opened right to that, you know, 714 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 20: looking at solutions. I mean I've heard anecdotally right that 715 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 20: we are seeing serious troubles with our county case management system. 716 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 20: Folks are over work, they're underpaid, there's high turnover. So 717 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 20: a lot of the stuff that case managers should be 718 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 20: seeing on the front end, correcting, reporting to the department, 719 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 20: a lot of that stuff is falling through the cracks. 720 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 20: So I don't know if it's a statute change or 721 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 20: rule change. 722 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 2: It just sounds like they're making excuses. It's just too hard. 723 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: It's just hard. I don't know. It sounds like a 724 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: lot of work. They have to go and follow up 725 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 2: and actually make sure that these dollars are that are 726 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 2: being requested are actually legitimate and not fraudulent. 727 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 11: Hey, John pat friend of the show. I worked for 728 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 11: the federal government for twenty five years in the finance area. 729 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 11: Granted we didn't have the number of people to check 730 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 11: every single thing done, but I knew that I would 731 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 11: get audited by two different entities, one internal and one external, 732 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 11: and they would spot check and just give me things 733 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 11: for them to. 734 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 15: Let me translate what the dude just said, come steal 735 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 15: from us because we're not looking yep. 736 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 2: Pretty much. None of this would fly in the private sector. 737 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 2: That's what's so disgusting about all of it. None of 738 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 2: this would end up flying at all, this lack of oversight, 739 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 2: this level of fraud, So many people would have lost 740 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 2: their jobs, Companies would have been destroyed if they had 741 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: a fraction of the fraud and controversies that have occurred 742 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: under the watch of Governor Tim Walls. Well, keep a 743 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: bit with the theme. I got a couple of more 744 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: fraud related stories. Bill Glon's got a great piece I 745 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 2: want to share with you coming up about how fraud 746 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: is actually baked into the state budget. Louver Goose from 747 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 2: Caro Levin has a brand new clip that he's put 748 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: up regarding fraud in daycare centers. We'll share that with 749 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 2: you and we'll continue to work through the stack. Things 750 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to get to on the 751 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: show this year, including from both overseas and here in America, 752 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 2: the Words of the Year and this year's most mispronounced words. 753 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 2: I have a very special clip from Zohran Mamdani who's 754 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: on that list, that I'll share with you coming up 755 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: in hour three here on Twin City's News Talk Am 756 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.