1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Dan Watkins, as I promised, right to the phones, 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: we go. Let me go next to Deborah in Arlington 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: Deborah to say that, Hey, how are you Deborah tonight? 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm great. Listen. Remind me, does the Constitution say 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: that the states are responsible for elections? And therefore I'm 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: curious how we would have a federal ruling? 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: Well, that is the case. 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: No, you're you're correct, You're correct. These states are responsible 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: for the elections in their states. Okay, However, what Congress 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: is doing now is trying to say that in all states, 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: states have the right to say voting polls will be 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: open from seven to eight and eight in the morning 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: until six at night. So they can have rules and 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: regulations about how far you can need to stand from 16 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: the polls. You can stand out there with signs. You've 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: got to be two hundred feet away, you've got to 18 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: be one hundred feet away. However, you want to make 19 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: sure that the only people who vote in federal elections 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: are US citizens there are. 21 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: Would that be a dandum to the Constitution? 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: Then? 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: Would they have to do that? 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: No? No, no, In my opinion. In my opinion, there 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: are some cities in America who have recently said hey 26 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: on local issues like the city council the city of Boston, 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: not Boston, but the city issues, who gets elected to 28 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: the school board and stuff like that. If you are 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: a resident, you can vote in those And the idea 30 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: is that you're living in this particular city, your kids 31 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: are going to those public schools. You're not a you 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: might be a Green card holder, but you're not yet 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: a citizen. But in federal elections it's only citizens who 34 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: should vote. 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: Spell Okay, yeah, okay. I question how appropriate that is 36 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: if elections really are supposed to be run by the states, 37 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: But I personally don't care. I think it's just fine 38 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 2: to have an ID. However, my thoughts would be number one, 39 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: you can't say, by the midterms this year, everybody's got 40 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: to have their ID, because that's not fair. 41 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: Why would that not be fair? 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: Well, I would say, because we're in a privileged area. 43 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: But some people who live in the hills of Kentucky 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: or you know whatever, might not have the luxury of 45 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: financially as well as a luxury of time and ability 46 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: to get to a place where they can get an ID. 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: But my thoughts would be currently. 48 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: Currently there's no state that I know of. If you 49 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: live in Kentucky or Mississippi or wherever you want, in 50 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: order to register to vote, you have to prove that 51 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: you're a citizen of the United States. The exception to 52 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: the rules. So, for example, if you move to Kentucky 53 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: tomorrow and you're living in Paducah, Kentucky, and you want 54 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: to vote, you're going to have to go to town 55 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: hall and you're going to have to identify yourself and 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: say you just bought a house up on the hill 57 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: and you'd like to register to vote. If I walk 58 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: into Paducah, Pentucky, and I just say, hey, how you doing, 59 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: how y'all doing? I'd like to vote, They're going to 60 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: send me, well, where do you live? I live in Boston, 61 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: but I'm down here. I'm working on business for a 62 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: few weeks that I just like to vote. They're going 63 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: to say, no, no, no, no, no, you're a US citizen. Yeah, 64 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm a citizen, but I live up in Boston and 65 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: I just want to vote in Kentucky. So you know, 66 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: there were rules and regulations in place already, right, and 67 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: so what they're saying is they want to make sure 68 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: that when people go to vote, that they prove that 69 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: they are a US citizen. Now, if there's someone in Paducah, 70 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Kentucky who's been voting for ten years and they're a 71 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: US citizen, that what this would say is, if you're 72 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: voting in a federal election, not the town election, not 73 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: a state election, federal election, you got to show an 74 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: ID to prove that you are the person whose name 75 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: is on the registered, the voter registration, voter register. 76 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: And again, as I said, I'm tine with that. My 77 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: question would be, is the thought process of a constructive 78 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: way of making sure that happens. So that's somebody who 79 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: travels with difficulty in certain parts of rural America if 80 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: they haven't got a proper ID. Would that be something 81 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: that could be set up by the government. Yes, as 82 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: you go into the as you go into the voting area, 83 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: you can take care of it. 84 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, absolutely. If for example, let's assume you live 85 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: in Paducah, Kentucky, and let's assume that you've voted there, 86 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: you're registered to vote. Okay, what I would say is 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: that at some point between now and the election, that 88 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: you would just show up at town hall. And if, 89 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: for example, let's say someone is doesn't have an ID 90 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: and is disabled, let's say they're bedridden, I think that 91 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: the commute the town should send someone out, maybe a 92 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: police officer or whatever, and say, look, we're going to 93 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: take your picture, and we're going to take your picture back, 94 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: and we're going to provide for you free of charge, uh, 95 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: and identification. Because there's so many things in this gutsy 96 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: you can't do anyway. If if you want to make it, 97 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: if you want this to happen, it can happen pretty 98 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: easily well. 99 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: And that to me, ultimately is the most important part, 100 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: is that you make it easy enough. You know, somebody 101 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: repeated this earlier for those who are disabled or elderly 102 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: or not a complete ability to to make it happen 103 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: as easily as Again, we're in a privileged area, so 104 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: to me, that that would be the only thing that 105 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: I would say would be important. And then it can't 106 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: be by the midterms this year, as someone's suggesting. 107 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Why couldn't, well, why it's February. 108 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: Sure, oh yeah, yeah, sure, sure it certainly could be 109 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: as long as that was all in place and possible 110 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: for people to get pictures done and I d cards made. 111 00:06:59,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 5: You know. 112 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: Sure that. 113 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is is it's let's assume that 114 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,559 Speaker 1: there's somebody who's one hundred years old in their bedroom, okay, right, 115 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: and they lived ten miles from out it from town. 116 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Well do they have is their their police department in 117 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: the town. The police officer goes out there, takes takes 118 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: a picture with a with a cell phone, goes back, 119 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, prince the ID and they put the ID 120 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: in the mail the next day. 121 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely, No, that's perfect. You know, that would be a 122 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: perfect solution, as long as they would be able to 123 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: you and I might be able to make it happen. 124 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: Whether the government would be able to make that happen 125 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: of course quickly, And I think that would be the 126 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: perfect solution. I have no issue with that at all. 127 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Good it's just about the fairness. 128 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I. 129 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: Want to be fair and I want to make sure 130 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: that when because it's possible that somebody could walk in 131 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: and say, in Arlington, an unidentified person could walk in 132 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: and say, well, I know Deborah, and she doesn't She 133 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: works and she doesn't get get home until five o'clock 134 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: at night. So I'm going to show up at ten 135 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, tell them I'm Deborah and I 136 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: live on DeBras the Street and I'm going to vote. 137 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: So when you show up at night, they're gonna say, gee, Deborah, 138 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: you voted earlier today, because you know I didn't. I 139 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: was in work. Well, the only thing we can do now, Deborah, 140 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: is give you a provision you've heard of provisional. 141 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: Ballots, of course, of course, so. 142 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: You can you can fill out the provisional ballot, but 143 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: that's never going to get counted. 144 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: And then does the idea of early of a mail 145 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: in ballot then. 146 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: Nothing to do with that. That's the sort of thing 147 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: that a state would have. I mean states started to 148 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: have mail in ballots. It used to be that that 149 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: the if you were going to be out of town, 150 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: you applied and got an absentee ballot, And now they 151 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: make it so that they'll send you a ballot through 152 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: the mail. UH. And I'm a little concerned about you've 153 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: heard the stories about people walk into UH into lobbies, 154 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: into the vestibule area of an apartment building, and there's 155 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: twenty of those lying on the ground that nobody that 156 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: people could pick up theoretically, but. 157 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 3: Sure, sure, okay, but. 158 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: There would be no there would be no ID with that. 159 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: It would just be the fact that you've got it 160 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: in the mail. So when you put it back in 161 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: the mail or in the box at town hall, then 162 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: it's acceptable. 163 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: Well, well, if if let's say you and I live 164 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: in an apartment building, uh, and I'm a dishonest person, 165 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: and I say, oh, Debra's got her, She's got that 166 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: right that mail in ballot. Grab Debra's mail in ballot here, 167 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: and I don't know how Debra's going to vote, but 168 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: I'll vote for Deborah and I signed Deborah or whatever. 169 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: You know, that's the abuse that can happen with mail 170 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: in ballants. I mean, I'm not saying it happens a lot. 171 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how many times it happens, but that 172 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: is that's like enough of an abuse you could drive 173 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: a semi trailer truck through that. 174 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: I think, right right, Well, I'm I'm just trying to 175 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: correlate the fairness of going in with an ID versus 176 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: just mail a mail in ballot. You know, like they 177 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: don't seem tight enough. If one is important, then it's 178 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: the other one important. 179 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I think it's both important. I'm not a big mail 180 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: in ballot guy, to be honest with you, but I've 181 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: taken advantage of that because they'll they'll make it available 182 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: to me. I used to, you know, file a notice 183 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: for absentee ballot when I worked in television. I was 184 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: offered an election day I was in Texas covering Mike 185 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: Ducaccus in nineteen eighty eight. But I wanted to vote back, 186 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: and they sent me an absentee ballot, and I mailed 187 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: the absentee ballot back in so it can be done. 188 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: The Democrats are making a big deal out of this. 189 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: You've asked a lot of questions. I hope I've answered them. 190 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: Okay, you have, and thank you so much. 191 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate it and appreciate the call. Let me go next 192 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: to Gary and north Gary. I appreciate your patience. Go 193 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: right ahead, my friend. 194 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing and how you've been been a while? 195 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: My friend? 196 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: That's okay. 197 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: You know, always an interesting conversation with you, and these really, 198 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: these more philosophical ones, really do sparkle a lot of interest, 199 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 4: and the conversation has been great, by the way. 200 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: I Gary, you know, I post on your on your page, 201 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: your your web page, and i'd like to give you 202 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity, since you've given me that that courtesy over 203 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: the years, if you want to, and only if you 204 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: want to. You have a really good, you know, website, uh, 205 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: and if people would like to learn more about it, 206 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: if you want to give your website a plug. I 207 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: said that next time you called, I was going to 208 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: give you an opportunity to give you a website a 209 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: plug if you'd like to. 210 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think the best and easiest way to do 211 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: it is email me. My email is really really simple. 212 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 4: It's a constitution yep, Yeah, constitution and then the number 213 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: four and then freedom. And it's at gmail dot com. 214 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: And I'll send a link to anybody that wants one. 215 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Constitution for freedom at gmail dot com. This the 216 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: least I can do for you. Go ahead, what's your 217 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: take on this? 218 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 5: Thank you much? 219 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 4: All right? So I like the email, says obviously, I 220 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: was very excited I heard someone mention the Constitution. I 221 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 4: just get excited when people mention it, just as we're 222 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: talking about it a trade. So yeah, I mean, I 223 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 4: guess for me, here's where I stand. I think it's 224 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: a great idea. We have to make sure that we 225 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: have only people that are you know, supposed to be 226 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: voting voting. I think it's a no brainer. I get that. 227 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 4: I don't know why one hundred percent of the people 228 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: wouldn't agree with it. I think where the twist comes 229 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: in here is we can't judge or decide why someone 230 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 4: doesn't have an ID or this, that or the other thing. 231 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: Maybe they just don't want one. Maybe they you know, 232 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: live in the woods and that's what they do. They're 233 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 4: an American citizen, they vote every time, so we're not 234 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: going to require them to go get an ID. And 235 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: the problem I have with it, and it may sound petty, 236 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 4: but I think we have to put our foot down 237 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: every time something is a little when it comes to 238 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: that constitution is now that person's going to incur a 239 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: cost because you're going to have to go pay No, oh. 240 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: No, no. The way it's done, the way it should 241 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: be done is Look, when when I decide to get 242 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: a passport, or you decide to get a passport, you 243 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: got to pay for the passport. When I decide to 244 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: get a driver's license, which is a privilege and not 245 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: a right, I gotta pay for it, Okay, Because if 246 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: someone is coming in and say I don't have a 247 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: picture I D I don't have a driver's license, I 248 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: have no way of identifying myself. I think that in 249 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: this country we have enough means, there's not that many people. 250 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: Statistics have shown that. You've seen the statistics and how 251 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: many drivers licenses we have. Okay, And we have some 252 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: states now that are giving drivers licenses to non citizens 253 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: and they're driving track to trailer trucks and they're getting 254 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: into big accidents. But that's the story for another time. 255 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: If there is a person who's a United States citizen 256 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: and who either for because of lack of interest or 257 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: philosophical concern, does not have a picture identification, that means 258 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: they can't travel. They can't they literally can't go in 259 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: a federal building, they can't get on an airplane. They 260 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: can't buy they can't buy alcohol. They have to show 261 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: an ID to buy alcohol. All of that. Uh, And 262 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: they say no, But I want to vote. I think 263 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: it should be up to the community to give that citizen. 264 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: Give that citizen free of charge eliminated identification card. 265 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 6: See. 266 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: And I could not agree with you more. And I 267 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: think that because to my knowledge, that is not in 268 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: the bill. 269 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: YEP. 270 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: I think that makes the bill a little rough around 271 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: the edges, and I know it's petty, but I think 272 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: that the more we allow these little things, you know, 273 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: a little, a little and little, it's you know, the 274 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: death by a thousand cuts. You're just we have to 275 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: start at some point, we have to put our foots 276 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: down and say, wait, this really isn't right. Let's write 277 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: it into the law. It just seems like they make rules, 278 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: they make laws or pass bills and do this stuff. 279 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: And I almost I mean, I think with every one 280 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: of them, a logical person, to be honest. 281 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: With you, I don't know if it is there or not, 282 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: but it certainly should be. I will agree with you 283 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: on that. And I would think that virtually every now 284 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: there may be people who are going to say, I 285 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: don't want to have my picture taken, I don't want 286 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: to have an identification card. Okay. Unfortunately, we have to 287 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: balance your your desire for privacy, which is fine, we 288 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: respect that, but without an identification card, you have no 289 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: way of proving who you are when it comes time. 290 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: We also have to balance the integrity of the election process, 291 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: and we can accommodate you and give you an identification 292 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: card if you want it. If you don't want it, 293 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: that's fine, But if you don't want it, we cannot 294 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: allow you to walk in and vote. It's like saying, 295 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: if you don't want a driver's license, that's fine, but 296 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: we can then allow you to drive you a car 297 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: on the road. Yeah. 298 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: So I think the logical and I know I'm all 299 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: along here, but I think the logical thing to have 300 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 4: done would have been in the bill to write in 301 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: that we're establishing maybe there is a voting ID that 302 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 4: the government provides. I mean, we're only you know, we're 303 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: only spending how much money on God knows what we 304 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,119 Speaker 4: have to be able. I agree with you, it's definitely 305 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 4: has to happen. I just think they could mean every town. 306 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: And every city and every borough should make that courtesy available. 307 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 4: Okay, My only other, My only other question, Dan, because 308 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 4: I know I'm crazy long here is do you know 309 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: in the bill if you already have a driver? Is 310 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: this like a jumpstart? So from here on forward, this 311 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: is what has to happen. What does everybody have to 312 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 4: go back and prove? And the reason that I ask 313 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: is because I know in Massachusetts we're now giving driver's 314 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: licenses to elite aliens. 315 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: Well that's why, that's why. Well I'm telling you that, 316 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: that's why we should have had different shaped licenses. And 317 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats fought against that. I said, you know, I 318 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: have as opposed to a horizontal license, have a perpendicular license. 319 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: I am not gonna I will fight for this because 320 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: I think we could always find reasons not to do it. 321 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: I like to Cope Kennedy, and I've quoted him before, 322 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: which is some men see the way things are and 323 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: ask why. Others see the way they things could well, 324 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: the way things could be, and ask why not. I'm 325 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: in that category. Gary, I love you call. I really 326 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: am way past my break Okay, thanks, doctor assumed. Here 327 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: comes the break back right after this night side with 328 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: Dan Ray. 329 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 5: I'm Boston's news radio, right. 330 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: I know, I've gone along with some of my good callers, 331 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: and I'm going to go to Bill, who's an east 332 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: who is in Easton and is a very good caller. Bill, 333 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm a little tight on time. I want to get 334 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: you in in here, go right ahead before the news. 335 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: You've been very patient. 336 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I know you as a moderate. Do you 337 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 5: consider yourself a moderate or a conservative? 338 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: I consider myself a conservative. 339 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 5: And so that normally would mean less government, right. 340 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but at the same time, I'm small enough. 341 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm not an anarchist, and I'm not a full blown libertarian. 342 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: I believe that speed limits are reasonable. I believe that 343 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: people who are drunk should not be driving cars. I 344 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: believe that people who were mentally deranged should not have 345 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: the right to own a K forty seven's. I'm not 346 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: an absolutist in any way, shape or form. So where 347 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: does that take you? Where does that. 348 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 5: Take people might call that a squish or a rhino. 349 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, then you can. Again, I'm not a Republican or 350 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: a Democrat. 351 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 5: I's a governor in this state because you know, you 352 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 5: can't be too conservative in this state. But I you know, ironically, 353 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 5: it's allegedly a cradle of liberty, you know, but as 354 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 5: you know, within a few years of the Revolution, we 355 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 5: were taxing ourselves. We just didn't want the British doing it. 356 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean we do. I think you do. 357 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: When you have a fire at your house, I think 358 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: you're you You can start to try to put it out, 359 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: but it's nice when you hear the fire engines arriving. 360 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anyone that that I know who's 361 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: had a fire at their home which was a serious 362 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: fire and when the fire department showed up, they said, 363 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: please stay away, stay away, the house is burning. 364 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a cute, cute example. 365 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: I got plenty of them built. 366 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 5: Well, like your last caller, was I think a constitutionalist? 367 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: Yes, sure he was. 368 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand that, you know, and then there's strict 369 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 5: construction of loose construction. You might say. 370 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, But what I'm saying is we live in a 371 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: world and by the way, I'm going to hold you 372 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: after the news because I don't want to short change you. 373 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: But we live in a world where should there should 374 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: people have to get be qualified to drive cars on 375 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: the road in Massachusetts? Or no? 376 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 5: Yes, I believe. 377 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: So you go there, you show up for your driving test, 378 00:20:53,440 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: and you you with the R and V officer or 379 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: well whoever's testing you, and you smash into four trees 380 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: as you drive down the street. Do you think the 381 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: guy at some point says, Okay, that's enough, you don't 382 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: casual license, or does he Well let's try it a 383 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: little longer, you know, I mean speed speeding loss? Should 384 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: should we have? Is it okay to have limitations on 385 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: how fast you can drive in a school zone. I 386 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: assume you're going to say yes. 387 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 5: I suppose it's necessary. 388 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: Evil, So when does this take you in your argument 389 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: here that I want to talk about the issue at Handbilla, 390 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: I think we have established it in New I probably 391 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: have some differences of opinion, which is fine. Do you 392 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: do you think that that only citizens should be able 393 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: to vote? Or should anybody be able to vote? 394 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 395 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 5: I agree with that. Okay. 396 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Should citizens be limited to vote only once on an election? 397 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: Or could I spend the entire day voting in as 398 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: many precincts as I can work my way into. 399 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: God already established one vote percursor. 400 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So so there are some limitations, and you 401 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: have said it should only be citizens. How do we 402 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: make sure it's only citizens? You gotta you got to 403 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: prove when you register initially that you're a US citizen, 404 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: and once you've proven it, you then use your driver's license, 405 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: uh to prove that you are who you say you 406 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: are once you're on the rules. I mean, I've lived 407 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: in several communities. I'm sure you have too. Correct. And 408 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: when you vote, do you have to go and show 409 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: your uh your birth certificate or your your or anything 410 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: like that. Every time you move, you move to another town, 411 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: you say, hey, I just moved into Easton. Where'd you 412 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: live before? 413 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: Eastonville, Canton, Canton? 414 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: I bet you would registered to vote in Canton? Correct, yes, 415 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: And I'll bet you when the guy from Easton when 416 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: you when you went down to register to vote in Easton, 417 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: he probably said have you voted elsewhere? And you said, yeah, 418 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: I was voted in Canton, and he probably said, okay, 419 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: that now you will. 420 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 5: It's a paid piece of paper. I mean, it's it's 421 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 5: a bureaucracy. Basically, not a lot of people have faith 422 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 5: in the system, you know, but certain a lot of 423 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 5: things are guaranteed by the Constitution. I know, firearms lissistance 424 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 5: were a hot issue, like charging for those is viewed 425 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 5: as unconstitutional. You know, it's I would think voter idea 426 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: firearm licenses creates an administrative quagmire. 427 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see is that. I think that the 428 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: integrity of the system. I mean, one of the reasons 429 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: you're you're paying uh to to have the right have 430 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: the to exercise your right to own a firearm is 431 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: there is some cost associated with it. Uh, that's they 432 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: keep records. Someone has to be paid for it, and 433 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: they uh, they charge a nominal fee. They're not charged. 434 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: They're not charging you so much money that that you 435 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: that you're going to go into bankruptcy. 436 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 5: Right, it's all, but it's an infringement. 437 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: I know it's it's an infringement on your right. Okay. 438 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: I get my rights infringed in a lot of ways, 439 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: you know. 440 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 5: Well, sure every time you leave your house, right, well. 441 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I mean my private rights and when I 442 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: leave my house, when I leave the property in which 443 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: I live, I understand that. Okay, but that's what I 444 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: also tonight. Hey Bill, I got to I do have 445 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: to run. I gave you six minutes, and I wish 446 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: I could give you more, but I decided to keep 447 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: the train of thought and the conversation going. As always, 448 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. 449 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: To maybe can talk about the national debt next time, 450 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 5: larger issues for the federal government. 451 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Will we talk about the national debt all the time? 452 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Up about thirty seven trillion dollars huge amount. 453 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 5: Of eight yeah on forty trillion? 454 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 455 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 5: I think that's a little more important than voter id. 456 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: Well, I think that if we had better voter ID 457 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: maybe people would be concerned about it. I could open 458 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: up the line tomorrow night on on the on the 459 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: federal debt and uh, and you see how many people 460 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: are concerned about it. 461 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 5: I hope a lot. 462 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: That gets back to another issue, Bill and that gets 463 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: back to our kids taught CIVIS in school. Do they 464 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: understand that we're living in a big country here, my friend, 465 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: and uh, we're going down the tubes. I'm trying to 466 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: fight one battle at a time. So do me a 467 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: favor and help me out. Okay, don't don't complish together? Yeah, 468 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: I think so. We probably see things the same way, 469 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: we may get there differently. Okay, gotta go, Thank you, thanks, 470 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you much. Bob coming back on night 471 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: Side right after the news break. We only have lines 472 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: at six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty two 473 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: of them right now. I'd like to continue this conversation 474 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: because it's thoughtful and the callers have been excellent, and 475 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: I hope you will join the conversation. 476 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 5: It's Night Side with Ray Boston's News Radio. 477 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's keep rolling here. People have been very patient. 478 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: Guts in Norwood, Gus, thank you for your patients. You're 479 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: next on Nightside. 480 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: Well, good evening, Dan, thank you for taking my call. 481 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for being as patient as you've been 482 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: in al and John at Beniswelka right ahead. 483 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: Guys, I understand, but it's been good discussion. I've enjoyed listening. 484 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 6: Right. 485 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent in favor of this. In fact, 486 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 3: I've I've written my congressman. I sent him an email 487 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: of last week. I disappointed how he voted in the 488 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: House of Representative. 489 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: Who's your congressman. Let's let's let's let's let as everybody 490 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: know who your congressman is. And they voted it. I 491 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: voted against it. Who is your Lynch, Steve Lynch? It 492 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: surprises me that he voted that way. To be honest 493 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: with you. 494 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: It surprised me that that all nine Massachusetts representatives voted 495 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: that way. Well, I don't see how listening to the 496 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: polls from across the nation and understanding what they are. 497 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: They are representatives. They were voted to represent the people, 498 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: the will of the point and here we go. Wait, 499 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: you know, people talking constitution and all this, but they 500 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: had to vote the will of the people. Now, the 501 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: bill itself can be massaged, the will of differences as 502 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: you've pointed out that that are intrinsic in the bill. 503 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 3: Maybe some people have a hot time getting the tide, 504 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: but the government should make it easy for them. You've 505 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: already pointed that out. I think that's going to come. 506 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 3: If senators think about this and try to massage this 507 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: and discuss this, then it should pass the Senate. It 508 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: should pass. Why because it's common sense. 509 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: Yep. 510 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: We're not not really doing anything other than saying we 511 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: want the integrity of our voting to be of the utmost, 512 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: well at least not the utmost, but the highest degree 513 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: that we can think of making it at this point. 514 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just said it as well as any of 515 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: our callers have said it, Gus. I was really eloquent. 516 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for saying it that way. If 517 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: the if the integrity of the voting system is in 518 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: anyway compromised, everything else falls out from there and falls 519 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: on its. 520 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: Face, and the bill itself can, as you pointed out, 521 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: it can be tweaked. I mean that's that's what they 522 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 3: that's what they do in Congress state. They introduce bills 523 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: and they discuss it and they modify it, and they 524 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 3: the pass or don't pass it after the attempted modification, 525 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: but to just say no to this bill. I also 526 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: sent an email to Elizabeth Warren. I understand, but I 527 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: did send the I did send the email to Elizabeth Warren. 528 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: I did not bother with Ed Markey. I'm I'm an 529 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: independent voter. And it's most independent voters, at least in 530 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: this state that I that. 531 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 6: I know. 532 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: Everybody that's independent was originally a Democrat. So I didn't 533 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: come out of the Republican right. It's I got dissatisfied 534 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: with the with the Democrats, and I said, well, you know, 535 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: I'm not going to just hop over to the Republican 536 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm not that happy with Republicans either politicians. But so 537 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: I'll stay neutral. I'll try it. But independents aren't neutral. 538 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: You know, we all have our thoughts and we all 539 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: have trure we do vote. 540 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think that, I just think if I 541 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: had I mean, look, he's Ed Markey. Ed Monkey's from Massachusetts. 542 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: He represented at this status as a member of Congress 543 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: for many years. Whether you liked him or not, Elizabeth 544 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: Warren is kind of a blow in, you know. I 545 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: mean I would, I would, I would put a dollar 546 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: on Ed Markey as potentially at least listening to the ideas. 547 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put Elizabeth Warren. She's an absolute ideologue. 548 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: But with the representation. My understanding in Massachusetts is the 549 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: majority of the people either independent or Republican. 550 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: Well, no, I can tell you right now that sixty 551 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: four percent of the people in Massachusetts. The majority of 552 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: people in Massachusetts are registered as we call unenrolled, which 553 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: is the same as an independent. There's only about eight 554 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: percent that are Republican, and it's about twenty eight percent 555 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: that are that Democrats, but the vast majority are independents 556 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: or again or unenrolled. You're correct again. 557 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: The reason, the reason that the Democrats prevail in our 558 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: elections is that most of those independents are unrolled. I 559 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: think came out of the Democratic pipe. 560 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you, and it's tough. 561 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: And also what happens is when someone gets elected, people 562 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: tend to vote for them unless they change up. And 563 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: I think Steve Lynch is concerned about a someone coming 564 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: at him in a Democratic primary from the left more 565 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: than he is about losing to a Republican. I think 566 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: he's made a judgment. Steve is still my friend I'll 567 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: disagree with him much more now than I ever did before. 568 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: I think he tended to be a very conservative Democrat. 569 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: He's now has kind of lined himself up more. I 570 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: think he's concerned about being capalanoed now. 571 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: The poll in no it. Recently I went to vote 572 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: and it was a rainy day and there was no 573 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,239 Speaker 3: one working. The poll's outside, as you point out, one 574 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: hundred feet away from the entrance. But I went outside 575 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: and and the pockets were on the ground for all 576 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: the different candidates, and I of course picked up a 577 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: Stephen lynch Stein. I'd worked for Steven Stephen lynch you 578 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: know forever. Ye, so I picked up with Stephen Lynstein. 579 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: But I also picked up the Charlie Baker side. 580 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: So you're an independent. Hey, got some up in my break. 581 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for your patience. One of the best calls 582 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: of the night. Thank you so much, and I hope 583 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: you continue. You don't call as often as I'd like, 584 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I know I've had you before, 585 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: but I want to have you more often. 586 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: Yes you have, Yes you have. Thank you, Thank you 587 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: very very much. 588 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, take very quick break at Alan Habril. 589 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: He's going to lead it so off on the other side, 590 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: We're going to get everybody in. I think we will 591 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: change topics at eleven unless the phone is just blow 592 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: up here. But I've got Al Mark and John though 593 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: it's Al John and then Mark and at eleven. Let's 594 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: talk about what's going to happen, maybe as early as 595 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: this weekend and around coming back on night side. 596 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 5: It's Nice side with. 597 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. Back to the phones. I got my 598 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: friend Alan Habril. Al, I appreciate your patience. I know 599 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: I've gone very long with the callers tonight, so. 600 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 6: I'm gonna make this quick to debunk the great Katherine 601 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 6: Clark about birth certificates because I worked for the Social 602 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 6: Security Administration. Make this quick simple. You know to change 603 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 6: your name because the marriage your birth certificates never changed. 604 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 6: You go you get married. You can look up a 605 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 6: marriage certificate online Massachusetts Maria certificate tells you who's gonna 606 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: change the name to who to what? You get married, 607 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 6: Go on your honeymoon, come back think the marriage certificate. 608 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: Your current license. 609 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 6: You go to the Soci Security Ministry because that's where 610 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 6: it starts. Change Okay, go to the R and B 611 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 6: change your license. Done no, where is your birth certificate change? 612 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: Now? Let me well, mass is does that? Do you 613 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: have to physically drive to those places and do that 614 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: or can that be done over h you know, over 615 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: a computer. 616 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 6: You have to go to that because people make the 617 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 6: mistake of typing Social Security and get some fly by 618 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 6: night operation. You know, the SoC security website is soid 619 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 6: security dot gov or SSA dot gov. Ev Okay, you 620 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 6: get divorce, you want to make sure that the judge 621 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 6: gives you on that form that you can change your 622 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 6: name back to your maiden name. You get divorce, Bye 623 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 6: bye to the other half. Make sure the name change 624 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 6: back to your maiden name. Go to Social Security, go 625 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 6: to the R and B and then the subsequent you know, 626 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 6: work whatever change and of. 627 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: Course to go to the Social Security office. Now you 628 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: have to have an ID. Yeah, you can't walk into 629 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: a federal building without a proper ID. 630 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 6: Youse an idea in the society. I don't hope people function. 631 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 6: You change your name because you change your gender. You 632 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 6: want to be identified. You've gone from one to one 633 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 6: eter from roberta the Robert. You haven't had a gender change. 634 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 6: You go to probate court in Massachusetts. Judge sixty days 635 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 6: and the objection is none. Here's a document, name change. 636 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 6: Go to Social Security, no birth certificate, bring your current ID. 637 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 6: You're now known as ROVERTA. You're now known as one 638 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 6: either okay, Robert or one EA okay, your adopted kidd. 639 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 6: The agency gives you that kid's birth certificate. You're gonna 640 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 6: change the name. You bring the probate court again, Probate court. 641 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 6: You change the name. You go to your local Social 642 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 6: Security office, present the adoption paper, present the original birth certificate, 643 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 6: pir certificate, not change. Kid is now. Kid is now 644 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 6: Dan Ray Jr. Okay, and you just want to change 645 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 6: your name because you don't you want to be known 646 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 6: as Jose Ideas. But God knows I mean Jose Ideas 647 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 6: there in Massachusetts. Probate court. Change your name. Bring your 648 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 6: document so security is updated. No certificate, because that never 649 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 6: never changes. Ms Clark, stop lying. You go to You 650 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 6: go to the your local R and B. You become 651 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 6: a citizen. You're known as Dan Ray Gonzales because the 652 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 6: mother's name is used in Latin America, even though your 653 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 6: license in the dr whatever in Latin America country will 654 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 6: say Dan Ray. You're like, you know what? Because now 655 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 6: because of the act that changed our licenses are done 656 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 6: in Florida's a stickler because in Florida your license must 657 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 6: match your social security You become a citizen, swear registered 658 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 6: to vote. Okay, you go to Social Security office with 659 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 6: these naturalization certificates. I will now want to be known 660 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 6: as Dan Roberto Gonzales. 661 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: Okay, you've been gretl Al. You got to call more often. 662 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: You've you've been one of the most edutaining callers with information, 663 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: factual information. Thank you. 664 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 6: I will go to the total any member of Congress, 665 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 6: especially Katherine Clark. 666 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 5: She's lying. 667 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 6: But let me also end on this point here, the 668 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 6: condescending attitude of people from Massachusetts towards people like me 669 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 6: and to what southern is is unbelievable. That's like Kamalahiras 670 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 6: saying they didn't have access to copiers, or that idiot 671 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 6: governor New York that black kids in Harlem didn't have 672 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 6: access to the internet. Keep up that condescending suburbanites, Liberal Democrats, suburbanites, 673 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 6: keep it up, because you will end up driving more 674 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 6: poor whites, more Latinos, more blacks into the hands of 675 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 6: the Rebelican Party. Because that savior complex is going to 676 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 6: condemn you, l. 677 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: Your fabulous caller. I hope you'll call more often. 678 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 5: Oh. 679 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 6: Also look up Amy Horowitz where he goes to Harlem 680 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 6: and ask blacks, what do you get a license? What 681 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 6: do you get an ID? Go to NYU and when 682 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 6: the people in Harlem are told what the kids, the 683 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 6: white suburban kids are saying at the NYU campus, they're amazed. 684 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 6: And this is why Trump did well with blacks and hispanics. 685 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: Keep thank you very much, Let's talk again. Thank you. 686 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: Let me get John and Debt in here, and John, 687 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: I'm sorry it took me so long to get to you. 688 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 7: You go right ahead, write several points. I'll try to 689 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 7: be quick to finish it off without something. Got that 690 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 7: because they're ten made one of my points. About ten 691 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 7: years ago, I lived in a house with no gentlemen. 692 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 7: The same first name is me. I went to vote 693 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 7: these bed ridden by the way, went to vote. The 694 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 7: woman took a ruler and pencil was about to cross minx. 695 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 7: She tried to cross his name off, and I could 696 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 7: immediately just let it thro it and then I could 697 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 7: just vote it again. So it's very easily, as you said, 698 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 7: just say you're somebody else. That's not a problem. 699 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 700 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 7: Second, Schumer Humphreys, the Democrats constantly criticized this bill. Yet, 701 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 7: to the best of my knowledge, you need an ID 702 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 7: to get into a democratic convention as well as of 703 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 7: the democratic function. 704 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. 705 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 7: Third, I believe I saw one of the creators of 706 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 7: this bill on the news and they said they actually 707 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 7: made provisions for people like women who were married didn't 708 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 7: have the right documents, that you can actually sign a 709 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 7: document saying you are who you are, and if you 710 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 7: lie about it, it's like committing perjury. And maybe you 711 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 7: could check on that, but that's what I heard. So 712 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 7: they've actually made provisions for those situations. 713 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 5: Like that, and great points, uh. 714 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 7: And something yeah, if you you probably can google the 715 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 7: interview is a great interview and something God said, really, 716 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 7: may you think the Democrat this, if anything, shows the 717 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 7: Democrats don't care about the country. They don't even care 718 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 7: about their own constituents. They care about keeping power, and 719 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 7: they know if this happens, they're less likely to keep power. 720 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 7: We talked about fraud scamps all over the country. Now 721 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 7: it's so easy, but when when you have what it wasn't. 722 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 7: Over seventy percent of Democrats support this and the Democratic leaders. 723 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: Was eighty three in a Pew Research poll that CNN 724 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: has been talking about. 725 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 7: Now, who's the spect of democracy? 726 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: You got it on that. You hit a home run. John, 727 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Appreciate the JOm and your call 728 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: and your prayer and your patience. Look, I'm gonna stick 729 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: with this at least into the next hour mark. Eileen 730 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: and Joe stay there. My audience decides what we talk about. 731 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: We're back on nights that we can always talk about 732 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: around Tomorrow Night.