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Speaker 1: WLW oh the merry Brown.

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Speaker 2: Of great weather.

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Speaker 3: But standby, Monday is coming. I don't care what happens

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Speaker 3: as long as it's nice a week from Thursday, because

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Speaker 2: That's when baseball starts.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if it can't be nice on opening Day,

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Speaker 2: But right now we're on a roller coaster.

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Speaker 3: Apparently all hell's going to break loose Sunday night into Monday,

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Speaker 3: and so stay strapped in because certainly all hell's breaking

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Speaker 3: in this country. First, we've got what's going on in Iran.

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Speaker 3: Apparently we've bombed everything that's standing that is of any

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Speaker 2: But yet they keep.

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Speaker 3: Firing missiles that I guess explode these cluster bombs. They're

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Speaker 3: as it should be. And so there's a lesson learned

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Speaker 3: in the wake of what this may lead to. Then

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Speaker 3: you've got Washington, d C. Where the Save Act is

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Speaker 3: want to do anything that would upset the most important,

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Speaker 3: most important word for anybody is Senator long you keep

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Speaker 3: Had James Boseburg he will go away. He parachuted it

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Speaker 3: a lot of our tax money, But nevertheless, we press

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Speaker 2: The fertile minds.

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Speaker 3: Of so many of our American students, instructing them on

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Speaker 3: how they can become involved in make it better. It's

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Speaker 3: great to welcome in from Tarlan State University the esteemed

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Speaker 3: doctor bo Cabala. How are you on this glorious Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you. I'm glad you're here, Doc.

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Speaker 3: Things are off the redating right now, things are off

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Speaker 3: the rails. Tell me why the Save Act is dead

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Speaker 3: in the water in the Senate. This seems to be

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Speaker 3: an eighty twenty issue. Eighty percent of the American public

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Speaker 4: Well, and I think you're absolutely right eighty twenty issue.

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Speaker 4: Harry Enton, even on CNN has gone on and just

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Speaker 4: I think President Trump understands without verifiable identification process, these

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Speaker 3: Right because Joe Biden let have the unfree world into

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Speaker 4: So the Save Act does include robust measures that can

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Speaker 4: go beyond just a driver's license. And some would say

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Speaker 4: that's a good idea. But you know, Ken, the fact

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Speaker 4: That was remarkable to see. That's the destiny. He's under

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Federment will vote for it. I think

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Speaker 3: But you're not going to get Susan Collins she's scared

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Speaker 3: Trump even more than McConnell does. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 4: Well, and that philibus parule has certainly been changed in

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Speaker 4: maybe rhetorically the president has toyed with, but he applied

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Speaker 4: But I'm intrigued by that executive order possibility. Of course,

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Speaker 4: But whenever, to me, the president makes the case to

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Speaker 4: I wish you'd almost do it a little more here.

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Speaker 4: When it comes to Iran, you know, public opinion swings

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Speaker 5: I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: Without some kind of pressure on Collins and Tillis and

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Speaker 3: I want to get to it on in a minute,

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Speaker 3: but I have an observation, and you can. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I go to see a lot of doctors. I don't

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Speaker 3: In a democracy. People that say that don't understand our

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Speaker 3: sure we're even a republic anymore. We seem to live

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Speaker 3: so you might get an executive order from Trump, and

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Speaker 2: We're not.

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Speaker 3: The House can pass things on a slim margin. The

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Speaker 4: Well, and you seem to be a big fan of

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Speaker 4: the judicial branch, so just think. But let me run

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Speaker 4: this by you, because absolutely, Judge Blasberg just issuing this

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Speaker 4: But let me throw this at you. You know, you

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Speaker 4: so there's been talk, there's been the intellectual foundations laid

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Speaker 4: judicial branch is not the only one of the three

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Speaker 4: that gets to interpret the Constitution. We have three branches.

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Speaker 4: They're all supposed to swear fidelity to the US Constitution.

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Speaker 4: What about a president saying, hey, I disagree with what

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Speaker 4: So I think people are kind of looking at and

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Speaker 4: Why necessarily is what judges say completely one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: There's too many of them at the at the district level,

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of like the average person looks at this,

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Speaker 3: I think, doctor, and they say, well, what the hell

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Speaker 2: And then we had the Old Dominion shooting.

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Speaker 3: By a guy that was released early by some judge

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Speaker 3: because he said it looked like you've really you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the judicial system, doctor is kind of control

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Speaker 4: Well, it's gut wrenching. It's horrible to consider, and it

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Speaker 4: does point us to that question of constitutional balance. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I really think just to ask, you know, the view

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Speaker 4: we all should have a say in interpreting the constitution.

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Speaker 4: So I couldn't agree with you more. I think that's

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Speaker 3: Absolutely well, doctor Cabala, we appreciate you giving us some

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Speaker 2: We need to hear your voice.

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Speaker 4: Okay, absolutely, Ken, thanks for having me. Always a pleasure

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Speaker 3: They're Bo Cabala, Tarleton State University. I mean, you know

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Speaker 4: sit down.

437
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Speaker 2: Well, sterling is not in today.

438
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 3: The Reds split up the squad, as they say, and

439
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 3: played the Giants twice. Yesterday they went to where San

440
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 3: Francisco trains and wins six to one. Back in goodyear,

441
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 3: they beat the San Francisco other Giants wanted nothing Chase

442
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: Burns threw in that game at the San Francisco Complex.

443
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 3: He only lasted two innings, a lot of hits, struck

444
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: out two. But this was in the NBA. They would

445
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: call it load management. They didn't want Burns.

446
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: To push it.

447
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 3: They just want them to get out there and get

448
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: loose and throw a couple of innings. It doesn't sound

449
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 3: like it was anything more than that. But here's Chase

450
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Speaker 3: after that effort on Friday.

451
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so.

452
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Speaker 7: I think that's the name of the game for me,

453
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 7: is just getting ahead.

454
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Speaker 8: Yeah. I contend to get deep into counts because of

455
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Speaker 8: the balls.

456
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: But he gets strike wanting and keep attacking us. Yeah

457
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Speaker 2: he did.

458
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: He did attack the zone as they say yesterday, threw

459
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Speaker 3: a lot of pitches that you know would have been

460
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: borderline strikes that batter's offered at looked like he had

461
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: his fast boiled chucking right along.

462
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: So he was good.

463
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: Grady Singer four innings, pitch, three hits, he walked to

464
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: he struck out too, so at four hits he had

465
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: two walks in that mix. And he was excited because

466
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: it allowed him to work on, you know, situations that

467
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 3: might pop up in games, runners on base, holding the

468
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Speaker 3: runner on things like that. Here's Singer after that game.

469
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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I definitely had some traffic there for a

470
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Speaker 7: little bit.

471
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Speaker 6: Then you know.

472
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Speaker 7: It's good though, sometimes figure how to work out with him. Yah,

473
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Speaker 7: well it's spring Training's four. Kind of remember those situations

474
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Speaker 7: and figure a way to get out of there.

475
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Speaker 9: Where are you at right now? I think you get

476
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Speaker 9: two more starts before the season st Yeah, just throw

477
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Speaker 9: a couple more there.

478
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I get up to five innings or so next time,

479
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 7: and then maybe six.

480
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Speaker 9: See where we're at.

481
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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, he looked terrific.

482
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: South Stewart had an RBI single in that game and

483
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 3: accounted for the only run in the one nothing Red's win,

484
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Speaker 3: and then in the game at the Reds one six

485
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: to one, Matt McClain, My gosh, a lot of people

486
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: are ready to write him off. Matt McClain won for

487
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 3: four five forty three is what he is hitting right now.

488
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: He has scored. He's as hot as the temperature out in.

489
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 3: Arizona right now. Today, Let's see who's on the mound.

490
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 3: Redd Louder is on the mound for the Reds today.

491
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: He will start this game. He needs a comeback. Last

492
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 3: time he was out was about five days ago and

493
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: the Athletics took him backside the barn and smacked him

494
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: around three point two innings, seven hits, five runs, three

495
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: of which were earned. He struck out four. That was

496
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 3: not good by far, his worst outing of the spring.

497
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: Following him will be Emilio Pagan, the closer, and then

498
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 3: it will be Tony Santion and Sam Mall and tj Antone.

499
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: That's who's up against the Rangers. That's the game you

500
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Speaker 3: will hear today on seven hundred w WELW. Airtime is

501
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Speaker 3: at three thirty five. Of course, the big news of

502
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: the week is that the University of Cincinnati fired its

503
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Speaker 3: head basketball coach, Wes Miller yesterday.

504
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: He had to see it coming.

505
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: Just the reaction I've gotten from friends who are fans,

506
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: big UC boosters, people that are season ticket holders it

507
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: just wasn't happening. He had five years in major college basketball.

508
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: In power for college basketball, you should be able to

509
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: turn a roster.

510
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: Around within two seasons. You have nil, you have the portal.

511
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: And I understand there was a move there from the

512
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: American Conference to the Big Twelve Conference.

513
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: I get that.

514
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: But over and above having players that could come in

515
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 3: and play better at that level were just some bizarre

516
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: in game coaching things. His teams melted down at the

517
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: end of games. The game against Central in the Big

518
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: Twelve tournament the other day, my god, you blew a lead. Okay, well,

519
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: forget about that. You got the ball with fourteen seconds

520
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: to go. You got the ball in a tie game.

521
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, he decided it would be a good

522
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: idea with He claims it was three seconds to go

523
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: to call a time out. Now, the officials didn't see

524
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: that until point eight seconds. Hard for me to believe

525
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: he's calling that with three seconds to go and they

526
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: missed it by two point two seconds. But nevertheless, why

527
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: you call a timeout, Let the flow of the game

528
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Speaker 3: take it. At worst, you're going into overtime with a

529
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 3: tie game, which is what they wound up with. Anyway,

530
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: but you took the offense. You took the offense out

531
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: of your player's hands, not to say the least of

532
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: which with point eight seconds ago. The other guy can

533
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: say defense too many meltdowns late. He didn't seem like

534
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: a bad guy. Seemed like a good guy. But you know,

535
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 3: this is not about likability or anything like that. They

536
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: need somebody in there that can a bring a philosophy

537
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: in that is parallel with what it takes to win

538
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: in the Big twelve conference. They need somebody in there

539
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: that can get players that stay on the same page

540
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: and have the same outlook. They have some great individual

541
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 3: talent on that team. They should have done better than

542
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 3: what they did, but it was time for a change.

543
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: He had a chance. He can never say he didn't

544
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: have a chance. He had a chance. Now who do

545
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: they go out and get. That's the big thing. All

546
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: kinds of names out there, there are names that are

547
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: people just throw around names at this time. I don't

548
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: know John Cunningham personally, but I know if you're the coat,

549
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the athletic director in a powerful conference, you

550
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: must have a list of at least five coaches that

551
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: you would go to if your coach either skates or

552
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: gets blown up. So my guess is he's probably a

553
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: very If he doesn't have a very short list, he's

554
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: not much of an athletic director. But my guess is

555
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: he's got a short list of people that he wants

556
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: to pursue. Let's see who he gets, because you can't

557
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: you can't mess around with the big boys, and the

558
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: big boys are in conferences.

559
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 2: Like the Big twelve.

560
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: I think Miami gets in the field of sixty. If

561
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: they don't, I mean, that's an absolute crime. You know,

562
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: I'm not a Miami guy. I'm an o You guy.

563
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: This would be a crime if they get left out.

564
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: But they lost that game against UMass in round one

565
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: of the Matt Tournament. Now everybody's saying, low, I don't know,

566
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: and oh, will they get in? If they don't get in,

567
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 3: then what's the point of having a field of sixty eight?

568
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: What's the point of trying to compete in a mid

569
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: major conference like the MAC What would you what would

570
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: you have to do after winning thirty one straight and

571
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: going thirty one to zero? Travis Steele after that game

572
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: on what was it Thursday? On Thursday night, obviously you

573
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: know he was trying to keep it up beat.

574
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: It is what it is, man.

575
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 8: I told our group, you know, listen, our journey's still

576
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 8: going to continue. This saysn't the end of it. It's

577
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 8: not the goal and not what we wanted to do. Obviously.

578
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 8: One of our goals was to win the Mac Tournament championship,

579
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 8: and unfortunately we're not going to be able to do

580
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 8: that because we couldn't get past you mess.

581
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: So they're home, they're in Oxford and they're waiting to

582
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: see what selection Sunday looks like tomorrow. Pete Suitor and

583
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: Trey Parker they were part of that. They were part

584
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: of that postgame media conference on Thursday night, and I

585
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: thought what each had to say was interesting about where

586
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: they think their team is right now and they know

587
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: they have no control over it. But I mean again,

588
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: if they're not there, then what's the point of being there.

589
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: Here's Suitor first, and then Parker.

590
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 10: I mean, during the regular season, I think we proved

591
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 10: that we do earn need a spot in there, earn

592
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 10: a spot in there. But like but like I said,

593
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Speaker 10: I can just control what I can control. We're gonna

594
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 10: still get better every single day, stay consistent with what

595
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 10: we do.

596
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 9: The next challenge is whoever's in front of.

597
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: Us, he's the nail on the head.

598
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 11: You know, you just gotta I feel like we proved it,

599
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 11: you know during the regular season.

600
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Speaker 9: Now we just got to see what happens on Sunday's How.

601
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Speaker 3: I like that when somebody says, we know what he said?

602
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: What he said? Yeah, so I will see what happens.

603
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: Everybody that that claims to be a quote unquote bracketologist

604
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: has them in there, so we'll see exactly what the

605
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: committee does.

606
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

607
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: Kentucky lost yesterday. I've seen a lot of Kentucky this year,

608
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: and they're a frustrating team.

609
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: They are.

610
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: They've won twenty one, they're twenty one and thirteen. They'll

611
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: be in the field. They had no answer for Alex

612
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: Condon in that game. Twenty two points, ten rebounds. They

613
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: got murdered on the glass. Kentucky now has one more

614
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: loss all time than titles. Never thought i'd see that

615
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: day coming. Uh, and the ninth what were they feeded?

616
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: Ninth? They were seated ninth.

617
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: Right, they were playing their third game in as many days,

618
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: and that's a first for the program.

619
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Speaker 2: And I you know, what do you what do you expect?

620
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: Mark Pope to say, you know, we got beat up

621
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Speaker 2: on the glass in a in a massive way.

622
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 12: We were in some foul troubling trying to uh manage

623
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 12: some some foul issues, and we end up being small

624
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 12: and even when they're big, it was hard for us

625
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 12: on the class. Credit Florida for that. They did tremendous

626
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 12: job on the glass. And so we're we're we'll we'll

627
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 12: regroup and go home and then get ready for a

628
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 12: sensitive a tournament.

629
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: I mean this this was a what a five point

630
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: game with sixty six sixty one with about a minute

631
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: twenty to go. I never he never thought, I thought

632
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: maybe you did. I never thought Kentucky really had a chance.

633
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: But nevertheless they did have a little bit of a

634
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: run in this tournament. And so h Color Chandler, who

635
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: is Colin. Colin Chandler is a terrific ballplayer. They asked

636
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: him after the game, Well, what you know, what do

637
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: you take from that as you go home and you

638
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: sit and you wonder where you go next.

639
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 11: A lot of opportunities to learn a lot of reps

640
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 11: that we got this week, and so we were going

641
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 11: to take those into the next few weeks as we

642
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 11: play in the tournament anyway.

643
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: Selection Sunday is tomorrow night. Oh, breaking news from the Bengals.

644
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: This will warm your heart.

645
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 6: Uh.

646
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: They have just signed a backup quarterback. In fact, it's

647
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: a backup quarterback that played for the Bengals.

648
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: No, it's not Joe Flacco.

649
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: The Bengals signed Josh Johnson to back up Joe Burrow.

650
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: Josh Johnson has been everywhere in this country, playing in

651
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: all kinds of different legs.

652
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: When was he with the Bengals, It.

653
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: Was like ten years ago Josh Johnson signed to back

654
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: up Joe Burrow. It's like in the Miss America pageant.

655
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: If anything happens to Miss America and she's unable to

656
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: fulfill her duties, the runner up will be that's the

657
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Speaker 3: runner up, Josh Johnson. Alrighty then, and you think they're

658
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Speaker 3: laughing hard down in Tampa what they did with their

659
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Speaker 3: backup quarterback. It is twelve fifty four on this Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you with us on the show today. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what on the show today. Not only

662
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Speaker 3: is there another possible royal that's involved in child sex abuse,

663
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: but also exactly what is the strategy in Iran and

664
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Speaker 3: if if it's any more protracted than what it is.

665
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Speaker 3: What does it do to oil prices? And why are

666
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Speaker 3: we tapping into the national oil reserve? Remember when Biden

667
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: did that to lower gas prices? Why are we doing

668
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Speaker 3: it now under this administration? I mean, are we really

669
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Speaker 3: calling the oil black here? Kind of like the kettle?

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Speaker 3: Twelve fifty five on this Saturday afternoon News Radio seven

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Speaker 3: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Now your host Ken Brew on NewsRadio seven hundred WLW

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Speaker 1: on seven on.

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Speaker 3: This Saturday, and welcome back. Glad to have you with us.

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Speaker 3: I don't say that.

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Speaker 2: Capriciously, for without you, what would I be?

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Speaker 3: I would simply be one man sitting in a room

678
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: by himself, babbling incoherently. And why would I have to

679
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: leave home to do that? Think about that still to

680
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: come on the show. So the straighter horror Moves, we've

681
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: heard a lot about it. We talked about it in

682
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Speaker 3: the first hour, really and truly. How do you get

683
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Speaker 3: in there and get out of there safely when you

684
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: know that there are just these little cells that pop

685
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Speaker 3: up along the way, and maybe they load up speed

686
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: boats or jet skis loaded with bombs and they're just

687
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: flying straight into tankers. We'll get into somebody get into

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Speaker 3: it with somebody who knows the ins and outs of

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Speaker 3: that area. Also, why can you remember every word of

690
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: a song from twenty five years ago but not why

691
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: you walked into a room? Does it mean that you

692
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: are on the precipice of something like dementia. We'll get

693
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Speaker 3: all of that and check in on you know, why

694
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Speaker 3: are we tapping into the oil reserve? Why are we

695
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Speaker 3: doing They're doing it globally. It's not just the United

696
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: States are They're not telling us something about the supply

697
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Speaker 3: of oil and how long it's going to be. I mean,

698
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Speaker 3: we all got on Joe Biden for doing that thing

699
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: back what too years ago? Three years ago? And you know,

700
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Speaker 3: was it right? If it wasn't right, then why is

701
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: it right now? I saw this this week and I

702
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: found it interesting. So over in mary Old, England, England,

703
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Speaker 3: King Charles Kate, Middleton, Prince William were all together and

704
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Speaker 3: out in public and they were heckled by protesters demanding

705
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Speaker 3: answers on the former Prince Andrew's.

706
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Speaker 2: Role in the Epstein case. They were heckled.

707
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Speaker 3: Demonstrators from the anti monarchy group Republic held bright yellow

708
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Speaker 3: signs that said things like, what did you know. This

709
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Speaker 3: was outside Westminster Abbey when King Charles and Queen Camilla

710
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Speaker 3: and Prince William and Kate Middleden they went inside for

711
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Speaker 3: the annual Commonwealth Day celebration. Other signs said not my king,

712
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 3: down with the crown, ditch the Dutchess. And it led

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Speaker 3: me to believe, Well, they love their royals over in England.

714
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: I've been there, I can tell that, But it seems

715
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Speaker 3: like they may be over the royals somewhat. And now

716
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Speaker 3: there's this. This is disturbing in and of itself. There

717
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: is an insider to the royal culture, not in England,

718
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Speaker 3: but in Monaco. His name is Robert Eringer, and he

719
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Speaker 3: is a former intelligence advisor to Prince Albert of Monaco.

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Speaker 3: In fact, the Erringer built Monaco's modern intelligence apparatus from

721
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Speaker 3: the ground up. Now he's quick to point out in

722
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Speaker 3: his writings that he doesn't believe Prince Albert personally knew

723
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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein. He does know something that is more unsettling,

724
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Speaker 3: and that is this. Albert and Andrew were friends and shared,

725
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Speaker 3: according to Erringer.

726
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Speaker 2: Remarkably similar tastes.

727
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Speaker 3: Erringer is no stranger to security, said he built Monaco's

728
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Speaker 3: security system around Prince Albert up back in two thousand

729
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Speaker 3: and two. He spent five decades in that intelligence industry

730
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Speaker 3: and then got into the business of undercovered journalism for

731
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Speaker 3: Fleet Street, the newspapers that are over there in London,

732
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Speaker 3: and actually served as a foreign correspondent for a number

733
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Speaker 3: of newspapers on this side of the globe, including the

734
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Speaker 3: Toledo Blade. So when I saw that he was here

735
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Speaker 3: now and willing to talk about maybe this whole thing

736
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: with Epstein and Prince Andrew may extend to another Prince

737
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: Albert of Monaco, made me wonder, Okay, how deep does

738
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Speaker 3: this go? So let's bring him on in. Robert Aaron here,

739
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Speaker 3: How are you on this glorious Saturday.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing just fine, Thank you very much. How are

741
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Speaker 6: you doing?

742
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Speaker 2: Everything's well here, no question about that.

743
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Speaker 3: Now, before we get into Prince Albert, Prince Albert the

744
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: second of Monaco, what's transpired with ex Prince Andrew in

745
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours. It raises some interesting commentary.

746
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Speaker 3: Does this in any way, in your opinion, knowing what

747
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: you know about royalty, does this in any way really

748
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: make you believe or have you think that there could

749
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Speaker 3: be something afoot here that could shake that monarchy to

750
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Speaker 3: its knees, because obviously his brother is king. If this

751
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: thing does go to full trial, the king would in

752
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Speaker 3: essence have to pass judgment on his brother, which could

753
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Speaker 3: effect whether the king stays on the throne.

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Speaker 2: How deep could this go with the monarchy?

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Speaker 6: It actually works the other way, because if Andrew were

756
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 6: to do something like Princess Diana's former bodyguard did and

757
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 6: say that somehow or other his brother, the King, was

758
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 6: involved in some way, or that he'd even talked about

759
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 6: it with King Charles, then the prosecution would probably have

760
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Speaker 6: to fold. And I'm sure Andrew's lawyers are well aware

761
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Speaker 6: of it, because the King can't be brought into court,

762
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Speaker 6: and if and if Andrew invokes him as a witness,

763
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Speaker 6: and he can't be brought into a court, then the

764
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Speaker 6: case collapses. So there's a reasonably good chance it would

765
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Speaker 6: never go to trial, and instead, perhaps some sort of

766
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Speaker 6: deal would be struck. I don't see it. I know

767
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Speaker 6: the British Press is in a frenzy over it and

768
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 6: already saying the monarchy is doomed, But the monarchy has

769
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 6: been going on for a pretty long time now, and

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Speaker 6: even though Charles is considered a little mamby Pamby. He's

771
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Speaker 6: a caretaker king for Prince William, which the country tends

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Speaker 6: to adore in a very large way.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how close were Prince Albert and Prince Andrew at

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Speaker 3: one point? How close were they were? They were they?

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Speaker 3: I think the phrase I see here are two peas

776
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Speaker 3: in a pod substack? Is it a relationship that continues

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Speaker 3: even to this day?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: What was interesting about the relationship. I don't know how

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Speaker 6: exactly how close they were, but I do know that

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Speaker 6: of all the members of the British royal family, Andrew

782
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Speaker 6: is the one that had the warmest bond with Albert.

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Speaker 6: As I was working for Albert, I heard his name

784
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 6: mentioned all the time to somebody who was either coming

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00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 6: to visit or event if Albert was going to be

786
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 6: in Britain, he would see Andrew. So I had a

787
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Speaker 6: very strong sense the two of them shared a common

788
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 6: bond and shared common interests. Beyond that, I didn't give

789
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Speaker 6: it much of a thought until all these years later,

790
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Speaker 6: when Andrew finds himself in the mess that he's in,

791
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Speaker 6: and also knowing Albert's own proclivities for caring more about

792
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 6: his next sexual escapade than matters of state.

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Speaker 3: And you started working for Prince Albert in the early

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Speaker 3: two thousands, Am I right? Two thousand and one, two

795
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Speaker 3: thousand and two.

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Speaker 6: That is correct. June in two thousand and two is

797
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Speaker 6: when Albert, who was at that time the hereditary prince,

798
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Speaker 6: he was not yet the monarch, retained me to be

799
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Speaker 6: his intelligence advisor.

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Speaker 3: And your job would be what I mean, what would

801
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: you do on a daily basis world events, things that

802
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: affected jess Monico.

803
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Speaker 2: What would it be?

804
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Speaker 6: Specifically, he was concerned about the Russian surge at that

805
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 6: time into the French Riviera. I'm worried about how much

806
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 6: influenced the Russians would try to gain inside Monaco. That

807
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 6: was how it truly began. But he also had concerns,

808
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 6: and this also dealt with Russians coming into Monaco, about

809
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 6: people who were always trying to join his social orbit.

810
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 6: There's a game in Monica everybody plays called who can

811
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 6: brown their nose to the deepest and it goes for

812
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Speaker 6: the There's nothing more cutthroat in the world than a

813
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 6: royal court, and everybody's always trying to elbow everybody else

814
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Speaker 6: out the way to be nearest to the monarch or

815
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 6: in that case the hereditary Prince, and then the hereditary

816
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 6: Prince Albert became the monarch Prince Albert the second officially

817
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Speaker 6: after his father, Prince Bergnier the third, passed in April

818
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Speaker 6: two thousand and five, and at that time my role

819
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 6: evolved from intelligence advisor to actually creating Monaco's first intelligence service.

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Speaker 3: Wow, and you're working, I would guess with other intelligence

821
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Speaker 3: agencies around the world. Right, you'd be working with the

822
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Speaker 3: CIA sixteen people like that, Right I did.

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Speaker 6: And that was my first chur once he retained me

824
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 6: was I knew I couldn't provide briefings on everything he

825
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 6: wanted to know about on my own. I started off

826
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Speaker 6: on a very very minor budget and I had to

827
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Speaker 6: build an intelligence service from scratch. So the best way,

828
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Speaker 6: to my thinking to do that was to enlist the

829
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Speaker 6: liaison relationships with the larger intelligence services, who could give

830
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Speaker 6: me for free if they were willing, and what I

831
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 6: would otherwise have to pay for. And so within the

832
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 6: first few months of having been retained by Albert, I

833
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 6: created liaison relationships with the CIA and with six in Britain.

834
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Speaker 3: Albert has had some heavy allegations laid against him, and

835
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Speaker 3: you document these ELSA Casselli, a French artist, two thousand

836
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: and nine, signed an affidavit that she was illegally kidnapped

837
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Speaker 3: and raped by Prince alberta border yachute traveling from Monaco

838
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Speaker 3: to France. And there were other allegations as well against him.

839
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Speaker 3: You document that in I know, in your sub stack.

840
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Speaker 3: But what of those because if those really happened, when

841
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Speaker 3: they happened, were you around him at that time? Had

842
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: you distanced yourself in two thousand and nine when this happened.

843
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 6: I had I noticed his behavior, his reckless behavior per

844
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 6: a start, he never listened to advice about being careful

845
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 6: when he visited cities such as Moscow. I mean once

846
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 6: they booked out a friend of his from the Georgian Republic,

847
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 6: where Georgian Republic booked out a whole brothel in Moscow

848
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Speaker 6: to celebrate Albert's birthday so that Albert could take himself

849
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 6: and a few of his close friends from Monico there. Well,

850
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 6: that's the most ridiculous thing. If you're in the intelligence business,

851
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 6: the last thing you want is to have your client

852
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 6: set up, have a room wired, and have a foreign

853
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 6: government decided they have leverage on him for blackmail. So

854
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 6: I already knew he was fairly reckless in his behavior,

855
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 6: especially when it became too sexual escapades. But I was

856
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 6: not aware of this case. I was aware of the

857
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 6: woman involved, but I was not aware of what he

858
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 6: had done to her until I'd separated myself from Prince

859
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 6: Albert at the end of two thousand and seven.

860
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was this case and then one involving some

861
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Speaker 3: French supermodel named Karen Mulder, but nothing ever came of these.

862
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: First of all, Albert's not implicated, at least to my knowledge,

863
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form with the Epstein files.

864
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Speaker 3: But secondly, even in these two isolated cases, they were

865
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: either ignored or dismissed. So was that just power over people?

866
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Speaker 3: Why were they not followed?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody revers royalty, especially in Europe, and they don't

868
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 6: want Nobody wants to come oppose it, Nobody wants to

869
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 6: make an issue of it. So sadly it's a form

870
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 6: of enablement because if you don't do anything, it just

871
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 6: makes whatever royal is misbehaving believe that they can get

872
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 6: away with anything, to a point where it goes on

873
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 6: on and on to a point where now Andrew finds

874
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 6: himself in the trouble that he's in. So it was

875
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 6: quite normal from my perspective that nobody would pay attention

876
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 6: because everybody wants to be close as close as possible

877
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 6: to Prince Albert and all the other royals of Europe.

878
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 6: They don't want to go up against them. I'm different.

879
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 6: I was from the beginning. I saw so much corruption

880
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 6: around me in Monica. If I wanted to be extremely

881
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 6: wealthy right now, I could have just signed on to it,

882
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 6: I'd probably still be working for But he brought me

883
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 6: in to clean up corruption and to make him very

884
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 6: well informed about corruption, so at least he said, so

885
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 6: he could crack down on it, which he never did.

886
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 6: And I took that very seriously and when I saw

887
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 6: and that was the main reason I left at the

888
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 6: end of two thousand and seven, because it was very

889
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 6: clear to me by then that even with all the

890
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 6: intelligence we had gathered through a number of intelligence services

891
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 6: who know what they're talking about, he wouldn't take stef

892
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 6: against the ministers or against the people in his own

893
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 6: palace who were very corrupt, who he should have gotten

894
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 6: rid of.

895
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 3: His father hadn't know what was going on, right, I mean,

896
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 3: Rania is revered in that country. His father would have

897
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: had to have known about all that.

898
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, But and that's the point of Monaco. I'm

899
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 6: sure Albert's old friends, the ones he grew up with,

900
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 6: who went to school with, who all became ministers in

901
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 6: the government, they took him aside when they heard about

902
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 6: heard whispers about how he wants to introduce a new

903
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 6: ethic to the place. And then they eventually learned that

904
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 6: he has this intelligence service, scared the hell out of him,

905
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 6: and they pulled him aside essentially and said, hey, don't

906
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 6: you get it. This is what Monico's about. It's always

907
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 6: been this way, and it was like, don't mess with

908
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 6: our rights, bulls. And I think ultimately Albert came to

909
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 6: see that it wasn't worth the trouble of cleaning the

910
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 6: place up like he promised me. And the man he

911
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 6: hired as his chef the cabinet, his chief of staff,

912
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 6: who was supposed to implement and all of the recommendations

913
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 6: that our intelligence service had made.

914
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: Robert Earinger is our guests. He is the author of

915
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: the book The Spymaster of Monte Carlo, which is in

916
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 3: pre order right now. It will be in full order

917
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 3: come the middle of March. Okay, So it just seems

918
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: like and again these are two cases Andrew in the

919
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: Epstein files Albert with these allegations leveled upon him that

920
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: apparently he beat skated on whatever. It seems like the

921
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: royalty or company or countries that have a royal ruling class.

922
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: Why aren't the why aren't the proletariat more involved as

923
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: to what goes on? I would have to think people

924
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: in Monaco have to be talking about you, what you

925
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: and I are talking with about right now. Maybe not

926
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: in public terms, but they have to be talking about

927
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 3: it between themselves.

928
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: Why is it tolerated?

929
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 6: Monco is one of the most gosky places. And the

930
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 6: answer to your question is fear. If you if you

931
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 6: insult Prince Albert or any I think, any member of

932
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 6: the royal family Monica's royal family, and you're overheard to

933
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 6: insult them, or you write something insulting in a local newspaper,

934
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 6: you can go to prison. And there are people who

935
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 6: have served a little time in prison for doing things

936
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 6: like doing a caricature of Prince Albert looking like a clown,

937
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 6: dressed as a clown, costume as a clown. So there's

938
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 6: a lot of fear. For years, long before I even

939
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 6: knew Albert, certainly before I began working for him, the

940
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 6: rumor always was that all the phones are tapped. Well,

941
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 6: when I got to the position, I did, and I

942
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 6: wanted to know, so, what's the tap tapping system? Like, no, no, no,

943
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 6: we don't you know. The police guys who I was

944
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 6: working with said there's no such thing. We don't even

945
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 6: have a fax machine. So it was induced fear based

946
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 6: on the fact that somebody was always listening. The story

947
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 6: went that if you went and called in a bomb

948
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 6: trick from a public phone, they'd arrest you in thirty seconds.

949
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 6: But as it turned out, none of that was true.

950
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 9: They're just.

951
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: Fearful.

952
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 6: And also everybody keeps their own leverage. Everybody has their

953
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 6: own Albert story and they use it as their own

954
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 6: insurance policy if one day they get into trouble.

955
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: You're right about it.

956
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: On your substack and again you can find Robert substack

957
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 3: at Robert Ehringer and Erger is spelled E R I

958
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: n G E R all on word dot substack dot

959
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: dot com.

960
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: I take it to you have them at back to Monica.

961
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 6: In a while, I have been back there since two

962
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 6: thousand and seven, and I'm probably not going.

963
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: They might be waiting for you at the airport, right.

964
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, you know, I guess you could. You could

965
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 6: assume that I have broken the lot and insulted the

966
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 6: prints with to my writings and Synthe's a crime. I

967
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 6: wouldn't want to take any chances about being strung upside

968
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 6: down underneath the palace.

969
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: Understand that I'd love to talk to you again. We

970
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: can get into the work you've done undercover for FBI counterintelligence.

971
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it is fascinating you worked in Moscow, Havanna

972
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: and beyond, and obviously the world and the shape that

973
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: it's in with regard to our country is a complete

974
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: interest to me and I'm sure my audience. But for

975
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: your time today, Robert, we appreciate it, and stay well

976
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: and good luck with the book again. The book is

977
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 3: and it's out in pre order right now. The Spymaster

978
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: of Monte Carlo, Robert Erainger, the author, Robert, thanks for

979
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 3: your time, We appreciate it.

980
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.

981
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 5: Ben.

982
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I don't think he's going back to Monica

983
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: anytime soon. They may be waiting for him at the

984
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: airport or the peer.

985
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: It's coming up on one twenty five on this Saturday afternoon.

986
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: We're counting down to Red's baseball at three thirty five today,

987
00:52:52,080 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 3: three thirty five on seven hundred wl W one eight

988
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 3: on this Saturday, and good afternoon. Welcome back seven hundred

989
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: at WLW. I am ken Brew coming up in two

990
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: thirty six. Why can you remember the words to every

991
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: single song twenty five years ago, but you can't remember

992
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: why you just walked into a room. Some people find

993
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: that very disturbing. It doesn't take a genius to figure

994
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 3: out that what is going on in Iraq.

995
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: I guess Iran more.

996
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 3: Than a i raq, but an in around at the

997
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: straight of horror moves is affecting what you pay at

998
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: the pump for a gallon of gasoline. And the forecast,

999
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: at least from what I can tell, for the current

1000
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: price of a barrel of crude oil, which right now,

1001
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: as of I believe the end of yesterday was somewhere

1002
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 3: around ninety four dollars per barrel. The forecast is it

1003
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: to be above ninety five dollars per barrel over the

1004
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: next two months, maybe by the third quarter, down to

1005
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: eighty maybe down to seventy dollars a barrel by the

1006
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: end of the year. And look, I mean, we can

1007
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: go anywhere in the tri State and if you go

1008
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: to the right place, you might find gasoline that's under

1009
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: three dollars a gallon. I'm just looking here on gaspuddy

1010
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 3: dot com. It's you know, it's sporadic. It is a

1011
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: little bit better. As you get out of the greater

1012
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 3: Cincinnati area, you go to Westchester, Fairfield, I'm looking even

1013
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 3: into tav it's a little over three dollars a gallon.

1014
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 3: You go to some places in this country right now, California,

1015
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: you're up somewhere around five dollars a gallon. You go

1016
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: to Florida, if you're going to spring Break, be prepared

1017
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: to spend between three dollars and sixty three dollars and

1018
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 3: seventy cents per gallon of gasoline. It's just high all over,

1019
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: a little bit more cheaper in our area than others.

1020
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 2: But where is it all going?

1021
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 3: And how much longer can the oil industry and then

1022
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: the consumer like you and me tolerate what's going on

1023
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 3: in the Strait of Hormuz. Standing by is somebody that

1024
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: drills for oil. He is literally the landman. He is

1025
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: right now, I am sure, scrubbing the oil and the

1026
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: grit and the grime off his hands with pomus getting

1027
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: underneath the fingernails, because that's where it can grow. Somebody

1028
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 3: that works and gets dirty and screams eureka when they

1029
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: hit an oil well deep in the dusty bowels of Texes.

1030
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: I speak, of course, of our good friend from Peko's

1031
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: Country Energy RT Forravinio.

1032
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 2: How are you on this glorious Saturday.

1033
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I am blessed and I'm doing well,

1034
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 5: kim Brew, how are you? And how are y'all doing

1035
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 5: in the Triptate area.

1036
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: We're doing well.

1037
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 9: RT.

1038
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 2: We're hanging in there like a lot of us.

1039
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 3: Here's I got a couple of questions just about about

1040
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: this this oil that apparently is not getting out of

1041
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: the Strait of horor moves, and whether or not the

1042
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 3: United States can successfully escort some of these tankers out

1043
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 3: of there. So let's just talk a little bit about

1044
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: what's gone on there for the last two weeks. Why

1045
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: gasoline has shot up, Because I would think that the

1046
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: oil that we are now using to make gasoline at

1047
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: the pump that wasn't something that came to the United

1048
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 3: States just two weeks ago. So why are we paying

1049
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: more at the pump now if we already had this

1050
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: stuff here in the United States.

1051
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 5: That's a great question. Ken The reason why we're actually

1052
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 5: paying higher price through the media is for the uncertainty

1053
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 5: that we've talked about before of the price. And actually

1054
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 5: this uncertainty came straight from the refineries as to their

1055
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: worries on how much gasoline are really crude oil they're

1056
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 5: going to be able to get initially to continue to

1057
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 5: refine and produce products like diesel gasoline and jet fuel.

1058
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 5: And that's where that price came from immediately to the

1059
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: consumer at the gas stations. And right now, as you

1060
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 5: talk about the trade of for mood, yes, we've been

1061
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 5: trying to focus on that for now two weeks. And

1062
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 5: really what has slowed down the strait of for mood

1063
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 5: It is not closed, ladies and gentlemen. The trader of

1064
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 5: mood is open for business. However, it's actually the insurance companies,

1065
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 5: and we're talking about the large multi billion trillion dollar

1066
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 5: insurance companies like Lloyd's of London that are refusing to

1067
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 5: ensure these things that they get out of there, and yes,

1068
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 5: this president is saying, hey, we will escort them out. However,

1069
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 5: they are doing everything in their power to slow it down,

1070
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 5: in my opinion, and they're slowing down to provide the

1071
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 5: world a global need of oil and gas and oil

1072
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 5: and gas products for everything else as well.

1073
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: When you say they, you're talking about the insurance.

1074
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: Companies, that's correct. Okay, Well, you know, I.

1075
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 3: Don't think anyone has any love loss for insurance companies,

1076
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: whether it be for this particular instance or for healthcare

1077
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: anything else. But be that as it may. There are

1078
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: ships that are under attack. We've seen the video. I suppose.

1079
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 3: The question then begs, is, okay, when does when does

1080
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 3: the fog get lifted? Allegedly, the escorts are going to

1081
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: begin within the next ten days. That's about as best

1082
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: a timeline as I can piece together.

1083
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: At that point.

1084
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: If you've got destroyers and other kinds of US naval

1085
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: resources escorting these ships out, do the insurance companies then

1086
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 3: say okay, we'll let those ships go out now.

1087
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 5: You know, that's what we're hoping that does happen, is

1088
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 5: that these insurance companies are now going to do that

1089
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Speaker 5: and say that and if that's the case, then we're

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00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 5: really going to see a better lower price. But as

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Speaker 5: you projected, we are going to see somewhat of a

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Speaker 5: higher price, ladies and gentlemen, for right now, and in

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00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 5: some ways, it's almost our American duty to get through this. Ken.

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00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 5: You look at this, and this is adxcuse me an

1095
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 5: almost fifty year war that has been going on with

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Speaker 5: them controlling oil and our price here in America. And

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Speaker 5: when this is all said and done, we could see

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Speaker 5: the same thing happening in Venezuela as we did, see

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Speaker 5: the same thing happening in Iran as we did in Venezuela,

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Speaker 5: and that is the United States taking over the economics

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Speaker 5: and controlling their number one economic resource, which is oil,

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Speaker 5: which would then put about three million additional barrels on

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01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 5: the global market, which in the long run would actually

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Speaker 5: lower the price of oil again.

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Speaker 3: All right, So you're saying that this projection of Brent

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Speaker 3: crude oil, this is the good stuff, will remain above

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Speaker 3: ninety five dollars a barrel for the next couple of

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01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 3: months before it may begin to fall third quarter, fourth quarter?

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Speaker 2: Is that what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 5: Again? You know, I've been on this show before and

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01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 5: set certain prices and they did not happen. I do

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Speaker 5: think we're probably going to stay above eighty five for sure.

1113
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Speaker 5: If the trait is not back up to full capacity,

1114
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 5: we could definitely keep these higher prices going.

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Speaker 3: Why not take that oil out of Venezuela. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we just got Maduo out of air, We just got

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01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: oil friendly with Venezuela again. And it looks like some

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01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: of these bigger oil companies will go back and continue

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Speaker 3: to operate the drills and not under the specter of

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Speaker 3: a dictator. What's wrong with Venezuela oil? What's wrong with

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01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: drill baby drill in this country? Where the hell is

1122
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 3: the Excel pipeline that Biden shut down five years ago?

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Speaker 3: Why can't we get more relief that way to this

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Speaker 3: alleged crisis.

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Speaker 5: Yes, no, that's a very good question. And really what

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Speaker 5: it has to deal with right there, is that Venezuelan

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01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 5: oil is already spoken for, okay, and so since it's

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Speaker 5: already spoken for, it's being sold to India, of all places.

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Speaker 5: And that's why it hasn't effected the United States in

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Speaker 5: any form of fashion and with all prices of oil,

1131
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 5: which is really amazing. So wait a minute, you're telling

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Speaker 5: me that.

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01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: Venezuela is sending their oil to India. I'm guessing India

1134
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: has already purchased this that's why it's going there. So

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01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 3: that would create another global crisis if the United States

1136
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 3: tried to intercept oil that was going to India.

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Speaker 13: But bro, yes, right now, that's you know where we

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01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 13: have avoided that.

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Speaker 5: Crisis, And it's because of us going into Venezuela. Uh,

1140
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 5: that we're already in Iran also, and make no doubt

1141
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 5: about it, it's also affecting places like Russia and Cuba

1142
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 5: also that we have gone into Venezuela and that we've

1143
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 5: gone into Iran can And these are the reasons why

1144
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 5: the prices are higher. But as you know, the I e. A,

1145
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 5: the G seven in the United States have all have

1146
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 5: all tapped into the reserves, so we can't do our

1147
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 5: best to bring down the price. But like you said,

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01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 5: we're still at this large higher prices and we're gonna

1149
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 5: be there for a couple more weeks, ladies and gentlemen,

1150
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 5: But make no doubt about it, we will come back

1151
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 5: lower when it's all setate done.

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01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 3: All right, let's let's talk a little bit about how

1153
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: much oil we as a nation consume on a daily basis,

1154
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: How much oil do we consume on a daily basis?

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Speaker 2: Would you say?

1156
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: That's a great question. Here in the United States, we

1157
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 5: consume twenty one million barrels of oil a day and

1158
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 5: we produce fourteen Yes.

1159
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 3: Okay, and we produce fourteen Has that production increased at.

1160
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: All under Trump?

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01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,959
Speaker 3: In other words, we produced thirteen million barrels of oil

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: a day. I don't know what it was under Biden,

1163
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 3: but is it more than what we were producing when

1164
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: Biden was in the White House?

1165
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 5: You know, that's a good question. And surprisingly we're at

1166
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 5: the same numbers. We actually hit these record numbers under

1167
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 5: Biden and we haven't stopped. And if these cliances continue

1168
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 5: kin at where they're at, we could definitely see increase

1169
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 5: in production because we'll see an increase in drooling and

1170
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 5: it makes it worth it. But we need to hold

1171
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 5: onto these prices for just a little longer so that

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Speaker 5: it gives those oil companies a good reason to go

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01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 5: ahead and dust off those other rigs and get them

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01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 5: back working, because even if we jump today, it'll still

1175
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 5: be three to six months before we see a oial

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01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 5: big increase in everything that we got.

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Speaker 2: Oh who's putting the pressure on the oil companies?

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01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 5: Oh, who's putting the pressure on the oil companies company?

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 13: Yeah.

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01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 3: If you're an oil company and you're looking at prices

1182
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 3: at the pump like we've got, and you're looking at

1183
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 3: the price of a barrel at ninety five dollars a barrel,

1184
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 3: why would why would the oil who's putting pressure on

1185
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 3: the If I'm Trump, I'm on the phone every day

1186
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 3: to the people that are running these major oil companies

1187
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 3: and saying, you know, either get with the program or

1188
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 3: you know, you're going to have a lot of problems

1189
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Speaker 3: for me. And I'm the most oil friendly president you've

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01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 3: had probably in the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 5: That is so true. And it's a hard one, Ken,

1192
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 5: because absolutely we want to drill, baby, drill, but we

1193
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 5: need to make sure that as oily gas companies, we

1194
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 5: continue to get what we want in some way, to

1195
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 5: make sure that we're drilling well in productive areas, that

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01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 5: we're making sure that all the people are happy with

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01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 5: the production that we have. But also we want to

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01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 5: make sure that we're going to, you know, get make

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Speaker 5: a profit off of this for all our people. So

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Speaker 5: it's a very hard one and for this administration right now,

1201
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 5: they definitely do like those lower oil prices. But right

1202
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 5: now they understand and they don't want to keep the

1203
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 5: prices high. They want to bring them back lower. So

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 5: that's what's happening.

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 3: All right.

1206
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: About.

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01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: By the way, we're chatting with RTI Travino Peko's Country Energy.

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01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: RTI is a good guest to the program. I hammered Biden.

1209
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: I guess it was in twenty twenty one he dipped

1210
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 3: into the the reserve to artificially lower gas prices. That's

1211
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 3: all he did. It was a political move because of inflation,

1212
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 3: because of the absolute chaos he created with the economy.

1213
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: He thought it would be a good idea to lower

1214
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: gas prices by tapping into our oil reserve. And I

1215
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: know again it was a cheap political stunt. Now we're

1216
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 3: seeing that Trump is going to tap into the reserve

1217
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: as well, and that globally we have other countries that

1218
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 3: are going to do that. What's the difference between what

1219
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 3: Biden did five years ago and what's happening now under

1220
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: President Trump, and quite frankly about a half dozen other countries.

1221
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 5: That's a great question right now. What all these other

1222
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 5: countries and what Trump is doing is one trying their

1223
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 5: best to fight inflation, and two trying to bring a

1224
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 5: little stability and bring a little bit lower prices to

1225
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 5: the consumers. And that is so important. That's what's going on,

1226
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 5: and that is why we have these reserves, are for

1227
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 5: times where the gas prices do get too high. And

1228
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 5: in this scenario, not a political moved you know, four

1229
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 5: weeks before an election.

1230
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 3: So you're taking the difference is the fact that we're

1231
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 3: involved in a conflict with Iran as opposed to inflation

1232
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: got out of control, and to get the heat off

1233
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 3: his administration's back, he decided to tap into the reserve.

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01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 3: All right, I mean I could accept that explanation. I

1235
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 3: don't think it's ever a good idea to tap into

1236
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 3: the national reserve. I just don't unless your country's under

1237
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 3: attack or you're fighting a global war that needs to

1238
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 3: fuel the machines that fight the war.

1239
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: But be that as it may, that is a bow

1240
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: if I making.

1241
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 5: That is a ballot argument, sir, absolutely, And I will

1242
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 5: say this that since the creation of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve,

1243
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 5: this is the closest thing to a real heason, why

1244
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 5: to use it? Anybody else? Has always literally used it

1245
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 5: just for those political reasons.

1246
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: Okay, well, Arte, we appreciate your time right now, and

1247
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 3: we got to run. But tell me how ken Brew

1248
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 3: number one is doing out there? How are we still

1249
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: chugging along?

1250
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 5: Yes, kim Brew number one, I'm glad you said he

1251
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 5: is still chugging along making some good oil. We did

1252
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 5: have to give it a little maintenance, you know, we

1253
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 5: had to chill a little love to the kim Brew

1254
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: and make sure that she is still pumping away and

1255
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 5: that she's happy. So well, well, so yeah, we're rocking

1256
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 5: and rolling.

1257
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 3: I had to do some maintenance to ken Brew. So,

1258
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it just stands the reason it

1259
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 3: may go that way. Rte, you stay well, will be

1260
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 3: in touch. All right, awesome, I can't think you as

1261
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: always you bet Rte Travino Paco's country energy. He is

1262
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 3: literally the walking embodiment of Tommy Norris on Landman, it's

1263
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 3: one fifty four on this Saturday, still to come. All right,

1264
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 3: we're over in Iran. You got these ships that can't

1265
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 3: get out. You just heard urts say. The reason why

1266
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 3: they can't get out is because the insurance companies don't

1267
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: want to ensure a tanker that could get blown up

1268
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 3: by some mulla over there with a with a pistol

1269
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 3: and a speedboat. So exactly how long is this going

1270
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 3: to go on? And quite frankly, can we just talk

1271
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: about once and for all, once this is over and

1272
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 3: it will end that none of this nonsense it's been

1273
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 3: going on for the last forty seven years ever happens again.

1274
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 3: One news radio seven hundred WLW.

1275
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: Now your host can brew on news radio seven hundred WLW.

1276
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: Why you can't remember lyrics to a song twenty five

1277
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 3: years ago, but you can't remember where you parked your car.

1278
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 3: You can't remember why I came in this room for what?

1279
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 3: How the brain operated sometimes is a mystery. We'll try

1280
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 3: to be mysterifire coming up at about thirty six. So

1281
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 3: the conflict in Iran seems to be a conflict between

1282
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 3: Iran and the United States. But as a wise man

1283
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 3: once said, not so fast, my friend, because it appears

1284
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 3: more and more like China has its hands all over this. Now.

1285
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 3: President Trump is supposed to go to China later this month.

1286
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 3: But China is a major importer of oil from Iran,

1287
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 3: and so how much is China involved in what's going

1288
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: on between Iran and the United States and Israel right now, well,

1289
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 3: apparently a lot if you listen to my next guest.

1290
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 3: I've had Casey Fleming on the show before. He is

1291
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: the CEO of Black Ops Partners. He also is the

1292
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 3: author of the number one best selling book in the

1293
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 3: national and international security. When you get this book, you

1294
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: will have a better idea of why China has its

1295
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 3: hands on virtually everything that is occurring for and against

1296
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 3: the United States, the Red tsunami, the Silent storm, killing

1297
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 3: your freedom. And here now the author of that book,

1298
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 3: Casey Fleming, how are you on this glorious Saturday.

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 9: I'm great, Thanks for having me, Ken, I'm.

1300
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 2: Glad you're back.

1301
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 3: Look, we'll get into China and how they're implicated in everything,

1302
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: not just what's going on in Iran right now, but

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Speaker 3: the Strait of horor moves. Just explain that to the

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01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 3: average person that maybe sees it on a map, and

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: why it is so strategically important to the security of

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Speaker 3: not just our country, but every freedom loving country in

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01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 3: the world.

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Speaker 14: Well, because it's a choke point for all of the

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Speaker 14: oil that's moved through the Strait of Horn moves, so

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Speaker 14: it transmits our moves of over twenty percent of the

1311
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 14: world's oil. And of course we all know oil is

1312
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Speaker 14: very expensive and it can absolutely move markets and choke

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Speaker 14: countries completely off.

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Speaker 9: So it's very important.

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Speaker 14: And it's the central point from the oil capital of

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Speaker 14: the world.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you can't get oil out of Iran or any

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Speaker 3: of those other oil producing nations without going through.

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Speaker 2: The street, correct, that is correct?

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Speaker 3: Okay, And I'm the distance between its closest points, Iran

1321
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Speaker 3: and then the other edge of the Strait is about

1322
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 3: thirty three miles, so well within range of the missiles

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Speaker 3: that Iran has now and they're lobbing all over the place,

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Speaker 3: including into Israel.

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Speaker 2: Why is it so difficult?

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Speaker 3: And I again we're talking security here, and I understand

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Speaker 3: that you're not into military planning, but why is it

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01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 3: so difficult for the United States to take out some

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Speaker 3: of these missile launchers. We bomb the hell out of

1330
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Speaker 3: their nuclear sites in July. Why can't we take out

1331
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 3: these rocket launchers that are lobbing these multiple munition bombs

1332
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 3: that just do untold damage to places like Lebanon and

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Speaker 3: like Israel.

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Speaker 14: Well, they only come on for tracking when they lock

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Speaker 14: on a target. So that's the difficult piece of trying

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01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 14: to find it. We do have surveillance planes flying over

1337
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 14: Iran and the straight of horror news now to help

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Speaker 14: that targeting piece of it. But it's a targeting issue.

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Speaker 14: The second thing is they're using they're no longer using

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Speaker 14: US GPS. They're using Chinese GPS called they do and

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01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 14: it's very accurate, just like our GPS is. But China

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 14: did not want to be when they go to war

1343
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Speaker 14: with the US. They didn't want to have want to

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Speaker 14: be reliant on US GPS.

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Speaker 9: So that's the other thing.

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Speaker 14: It's not just having the capability, but also the targeting

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Speaker 14: that they're able to do.

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Speaker 3: And these drones that Iran is using, are they produced

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Speaker 3: in Iran? I know, China, I'm sorry, Russia buys drones

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Speaker 3: from Iran and gets their technology into Russia to make

1351
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: these drones. Is China involved in these drones that apparently

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 3: are wrecking havoc?

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01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 14: They are actually they provide fuel and their refinement fuel

1354
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 14: back to the rockets. They also provide the electronics from

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01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 14: the chips and all that. But those are called shut

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01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 14: head drones. They're decent size. You can put about five

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 14: in a container, a shipping container on a truck or

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01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 14: a shipping container on any ship, and that's the concern.

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01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 14: The second thing is there is a remote controlled water

1360
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 14: vehicles that they use basically their jet skis, and they

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 14: load them up with explosives and they blast them over

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01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 14: at about thirty miles an hour into the side of

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Speaker 14: the ships. Those are also very difficult to track and

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01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 14: difficult to take down. So that's a limited quality of those,

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 14: but enough to do damage all right.

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Speaker 3: China, from what I read, gets thirteen percent of oil

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Speaker 3: from Iran. Iran sends eighty three percent of the oil

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Speaker 3: it produces to China, so there is that synergy between

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Speaker 3: those two countries. Even though China has other ways of

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: acquiring oil, Iran is its biggest producer. You know about China.

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Speaker 3: You've been studying China. Your book The Red Tsunami, The

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01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 3: Silent Storm, Killing Your Freedom is in large part all

1373
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: about China. How many hands does China have in what's

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 3: going on right now with this war between the United

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01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 3: States and Iran.

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Speaker 9: Many? Many.

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Speaker 14: The advice to the audience is number one, don't be

1378
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 14: distracted of the war of the week or the war

1379
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 14: of the month. Don't be distracted. The real war is

1380
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 14: the war on you and your children, where you're on

1381
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 14: the front lines with biological war, COVID drug war, Sentinel

1382
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 14: and other many others, cognitive war, social media and TikTok

1383
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 14: you know, education war and cyber war goes on and on,

1384
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 14: and those are we're seeing an increase in that traffic

1385
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 14: now that we're putting the squeeze on Iran. And when

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01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 14: we put the squeeze on Iran, remember Iran is the

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01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 14: forward operating base for China, Russia and the rest of

1388
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 14: this aggressive access some people call it the evil access.

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01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 14: So we all need to be put in perspective. Yes,

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01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 14: we were all glued to the television set in the

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01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 14: news about this Iran thing, but remember, UH, it's a

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01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 14: strategic pillar and has been for the many, uh, the

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01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 14: many years that they've gone unchecked in the in the world.

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Speaker 14: That basically three decades of being unchecked UH, global aggression

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01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 14: and global growth through the Western hemisphere through Venezuela as

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Speaker 14: another beachhead or forward operating post and and so on.

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 14: So that's the big play here is the Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 14: The FBI directors Christopher Ray and Patel have said many

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01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 14: times that the few the single biggest threat in the

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01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 14: future of the United States is the Chinese Communist Party,

1401
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 14: but they never get details. And that's the reason I

1402
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 14: include that in the book.

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01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: Well, that's disturbing because it's not just Bush forty one,

1404
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 3: it's not just Obama, it's not Clinton, it's not Biden.

1405
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to deal with this except Trump, Trump forty five,

1406
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 3: Trump forty seven. Nobody wants to deal with it. And

1407
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 3: they've all been kicking the can down the road and

1408
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: paying them off in cash or some sort of other

1409
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: trade deal.

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01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: And so it's like anything else.

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01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Casey, bring it right down to the playground

1412
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: at elementary school. You keep trying to appeal, the appeal

1413
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: to bully, appease the bully. The bully is eventually going

1414
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: to kick you rep your rear end. So I give

1415
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 3: Trump credit for trying to take this on, but I

1416
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 3: often wonder if it's so there's so many prongs to

1417
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 3: this thing, if indeed it can be dealt with in

1418
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 3: the next three years, and after the next three years,

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01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 3: you know he's not going to be in office, and

1420
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 3: it may be another president that just wants to kick

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01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 3: the can down the road. I mean, that's brightening in

1422
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:04,839
Speaker 3: and of itself.

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01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: Isn't it.

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01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 14: It absolutely is. But it's not just kicking the can

1425
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 14: down the road. Many of those previous administrations have facilitated

1426
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 14: the growth of the CCP and their properties, which are Iran,

1427
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 14: Venezuela and so on. So they want the instability in

1428
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 14: their own country, the United States.

1429
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 9: So a lot of those.

1430
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 14: Congress people and by the way, some of them actually

1431
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 14: take CCP Chinese Communist Party money in their re election past.

1432
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 14: So our country is severely compromised from many, many different angles. Again,

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01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 14: that's why the most important people are the American people

1434
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 14: in America, and they're on the front lines, and nobody's

1435
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 14: really protecting them the way that they should. And they're

1436
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 14: on the front lines with no intelligence, nobody's telling them

1437
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 14: what really is at stake and how they're coming after

1438
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 14: them and their families.

1439
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 3: Under Biden, there was, as everybody knows by now, just

1440
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 3: unfettered access into this country through the southern border. And

1441
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 3: when I watched these people just come over, not vetted,

1442
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 3: disappearing into the night. The one thing that struck me

1443
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily people that were coming in from South America

1444
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 3: or even from Europe, Eastern Europe. Those were concerning in

1445
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 3: and of themselves. It was the amount of military age

1446
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: Chinese males that came into this country. What do you

1447
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 3: figure they're doing in here right now?

1448
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 14: Casey same thing as the Middle Eastern folks coming across

1449
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 14: the southern border. They're setting up they're setting up sleep

1450
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 14: or cells. In the Chinese perspective, it is to number one,

1451
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 14: help with persecution of anybody that's anti anti regime, anti CCP.

1452
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,480
Speaker 9: First of all, it's persecution.

1453
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 14: Second of all, it's espionage to see secrets and to

1454
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 14: steal whatever they need to to you know, continue to

1455
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 14: act and the weekend the United States and then finally

1456
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,440
Speaker 14: just to take to take action with all these farmland.

1457
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,560
Speaker 14: You have to understand, they're putting in containers in warehouses,

1458
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 14: they're putting containers under the ground, and there's thousands of

1459
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 14: drones in those containers in this farmland.

1460
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 9: It's you know, we could go.

1461
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 14: On for days with this conversation because of the depths

1462
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 14: of what we know what's going on. But that's there's

1463
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 14: over two hundred thousand of Chinese special forces that came

1464
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 14: across the southern border. That's the latest number that we

1465
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 14: have in the intelligence community. And they're not here for farming,

1466
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 14: and they're not here to do nail salons. They're not

1467
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 14: here to do that. These are military special forces. Not

1468
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 14: to mention the six hundred thousands that have been a

1469
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 14: lot re allowed to come back to US universities. Now,

1470
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 14: when you leave China, you must sign a loyalty pack

1471
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 14: with the Chinese Communist Party. That's how it works in

1472
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 14: a communist regime. So when you come over as a student,

1473
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 14: it is your number one obligation to support the mother country,

1474
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 14: the communist mother country, and provide espionage, infiltration, rioting, all

1475
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 14: these things to weaken what we have. So a lot

1476
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 14: of the stuff you're seeing today in the news is

1477
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 14: all part of a master plan and part of this

1478
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 14: unrestricted war strategy by the Chinese Communist Party. You know,

1479
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 14: you've got Wees, Greenland, You've got Minneapolis, you've got the

1480
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 14: drug Cartel.

1481
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 9: Venezuela, you've got Iran.

1482
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 14: All of those are included in the CCP's plan to

1483
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,879
Speaker 14: destabilize the United States and the Free world for ultimate takeover.

1484
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know they're taking notes in Beijing and

1485
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: to a lesser extent, probably in Russia, And so they're

1486
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 3: letting Roan do kind of like they're bidding for them

1487
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,520
Speaker 3: right now with TACIT approval, if not in complete compliance.

1488
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,839
Speaker 3: Casey Fleming is our guest. He's the CEO of Black

1489
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 3: Ops Partners. What are Black Ops Partners? What is that

1490
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: all about?

1491
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: Casey?

1492
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 14: We advised Fortune five hundred and government agencies on protecting

1493
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 14: intellestrial property. And to do that, you have to focus

1494
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 14: on the enemy, who they are, what their methods are,

1495
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 14: and how to throw them off.

1496
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 3: The scent is a book, The rit Tsunami, The Silent Storm,

1497
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 3: Killing Your Freedom is the number one best selling book

1498
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 3: in the nation actually internationally with regards to security. Okay,

1499
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 3: President Trump is going to China later this month. What

1500
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 3: do you figure that conversation with Xijingping will look like?

1501
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 14: Intimidation on both sides, threats on both sides, trying to

1502
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 14: figure out how to move together.

1503
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 9: Same thing with Pudent.

1504
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 14: Whenever Trump meets with Shijinping or speaks to him on

1505
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 14: the phone or Pudent, he always comes back with a

1506
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 14: lessened rhetoric position. We noticed that last week when he

1507
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 14: met with Putin, he was all in and we're going

1508
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 14: to put the We're going to bomb around and tear

1509
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 14: it down into the stone Age and then when he

1510
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 14: came back, he says, well, the war might be over

1511
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 14: in a few days. So you see this, uh you know,

1512
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 14: jockeying for position, playing everybody's playing egos with with dress

1513
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 14: back and forth, and make no mistake, and yeah, I

1514
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 14: hate saying this, but I love saying it. You are

1515
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 14: in World War three today. This is what it looks like.

1516
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 14: Uh you know, it's it may never go fully military

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Speaker 14: between US military and Chinese military and the rest of

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 14: the access military. It's all done through unrestricted warfare. Now

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01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 14: weakening the country so you don't have people to fight,

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01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 14: you don't have people that have the will to fight.

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01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 14: That's really what's at the crux of all this. That's

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01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,839
Speaker 14: why I say, don't be distracted with Iran. The bigger

1523
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 14: war is the war in your living room, on your

1524
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 14: cell phone, in your car and at work and in

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01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 14: your school and all over the place.

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 9: That's the war.

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01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 14: It's unrestricted war, and it's I mean, it's destroying our

1528
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 14: children's brains on TikTok's killing their ability to think critically.

1529
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 14: For with critical thinking, it's doing all these things. Sentanel

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01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 14: is doubled the number than the US government report it's

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01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 14: one hundred and fifty thousand a year, that's what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you wonder how many fronts the United States

1533
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 3: has the will or the power to fight at this point.

1534
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 3: But you have to fight, there's no question about it.

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01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering how you think this turns out in Iran?

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01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 3: Having said all that you've said and all that we've

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01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 3: discussed here, how does this turn out in Iran? Because

1538
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 3: we're hearing from the administration it'll be over in a

1539
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 3: couple of weeks or you know, I'm thinking about you know,

1540
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 3: it have to take a lot, but there could we

1541
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 3: could have boots on the ground and all this, and

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01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 3: that there are mixed messages coming out of this administration.

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01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, as somebody that is watching this with

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01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: a er mind than most of us, where is this

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01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 3: heading and when, in your opinion, does the conflict in

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01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 3: Iran end? And under what circumstances.

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01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 14: Okay, the air war will end within a week or

1548
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 14: two because we're running out of targets. There were initially

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01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 14: twenty thousand targets and we're running out of those targets.

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01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 14: So that'll be over in about two or three weeks.

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01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 14: But then there has to be boost on the ground.

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01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 14: When you poke a terrorist organization, you're not dealing with

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01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 14: people like you and me. They are radical people, they

1554
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 14: are ideologists, and they fight to the finish. They've got

1555
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 14: nothing to lose. In fact, they want to die as

1556
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 14: a martyr. So, you know, taking out the head like

1557
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 14: you would normally do in a regular country, that's okay.

1558
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 14: But when you're running with a terrorist regime that runs

1559
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 14: the largest terrorist state, you can clip everything off and

1560
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 14: decapitate the top forty eight people, but you still have

1561
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 14: all the radicals that are literally are underground and they're

1562
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 14: inside the US borders and sleeper cells and so on.

1563
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 14: So you know, back in the day, we even found

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01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 14: Japanese soldiers twenty five years after the fact that they

1565
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 14: are still in caves and we had to tell them

1566
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 14: the war's over and realized.

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01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 9: You know, no, it's not.

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01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 14: So it's that kind of thing. So it's the boots

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01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 14: on the ground need to happen. It should be Israel's

1570
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 14: boots on the ground, not the American boots on the ground.

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01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 14: But those those radicals have to be rooted out, and

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01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 14: a new government of pre government needs to come in

1573
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 14: and take the country back, but it's not going to

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01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 14: be without more bloodshed.

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01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 3: Casey Fleming, CEO Black Ops Partners again. His book is

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1577
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Speaker 3: Storm Killing your Freedom, Tasy. Good to have you on again.

1578
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 3: We will do it again and hopefully things have similar

1579
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 3: down by then, but I'm not holding out much hope.

1580
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 2: Stay well. We need to hear your voice, all.

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01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 9: Right, sir, Thanks for having me.

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01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 2: Man Paul Rose Lead, don't they all?

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01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 3: Rose Lead to Beijing to twenty eight news Radio seven

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Speaker 3: hundred w l.

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Speaker 2: W two forty two. Here's Radio seven hundred w l

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Speaker 2: W Welcome back.

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01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 3: I am Kimber got reds Baseball at three point thirty today,

1588
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 3: coming up at three oh six. Why are we so

1589
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 3: quick to anoint young superstars in any sport, but especially baseball?

1590
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: Comparisons he's the next Barry Larkin. Oh watch this guy? Yep,

1591
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 3: Eric Davis written all over him.

1592
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 2: Why do we do that? Why is it that we

1593
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 2: have to have that that kind of thing?

1594
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 3: You know, when I was when I was a kid,

1595
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 3: Mickey Mantle obviously was a great ballplayer, and I remember

1596
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 3: every time the Yankees got a new ballplayer, someone that

1597
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 3: could hit for power that came up through their minor leagues.

1598
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 3: Every time they had a guy like that, immediately they

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01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 3: would compare that guy to Mickey Mantle.

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01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 2: He would be the next Mickey Mantle.

1601
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 3: And I mean it's Bobby Mercer comes immediately to mind,

1602
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 3: the late Bobby Mercer, who was a terrific ballplayer. He

1603
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 3: was a center fielder. I mean, it was a recipe

1604
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 3: for disaster. He was from Oklahoma, just like Mantle was

1605
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 3: a It was just a recipe per disaster. And the

1606
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 3: media plays into all that stuff. I mean they wanted

1607
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 3: at the time to sell newspapers. Now it's all clicks,

1608
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 3: but they played into that stuff. Why can't we just

1609
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 3: let the player develop on his own. Remember Austin Kerns.

1610
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 3: Austin Kerns was supposed to be that way. Oh man,

1611
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 3: Austin Kerns. I mean, he can do everything Frank Robinson did.

1612
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 3: Austin Kerns. You way, do you see Austin Kerns. He's

1613
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 3: gonna be great. He's gonna be like Eric Davis. And

1614
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 3: Austin Kerns was one of, if not the most high

1615
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 3: profile burnouts for this franchise in the last twenty five years.

1616
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 3: Remember five tool player. Anyway, we're going to get into

1617
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 3: that with Matt Snyder cbssports dot com after the news

1618
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 3: at three oh six as we count down to the game. Today,

1619
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 3: they play the Rangers, and after beating the Giants twice yesterday,

1620
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 3: they're now ten and nine.

1621
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 2: Is that right there? Ten and nine in the spring.

1622
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 3: Today on the mound, it'll be Ret Louder, whose status

1623
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 3: with the Reds has gone up given the injury to

1624
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 3: Hunter Green. Last time out against the Athletics, he was

1625
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 3: not good. Three and two thirds, seven hits, five runs,

1626
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 3: three of which were earned. He did strikeout four, so

1627
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 3: this is a big start for him. Most of these

1628
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 3: guys have about two starts left before they head north

1629
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 3: to start the season. But that's on top beginning at

1630
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 3: three thirty today and they'll that'll take you into the

1631
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 3: early evening hours. Everybody is worried about what happens when

1632
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 3: they get older. Well, first of all, when you get older,

1633
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,759
Speaker 3: that's a good thing. You want to get older. Nobody

1634
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 3: wants to leave this earth before they should. Everybody wants

1635
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 3: to get older. But everybody is afraid, I think, and

1636
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who you are, where you live, what

1637
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 3: you do, about how you're going to leave this earth.

1638
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: And I think one of the things that frightens a

1639
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 3: lot of people besides cancer is dementia Alzheimer's. Nobody wants

1640
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 3: that diagnosis. Nobody wants to be told that their brain

1641
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 3: is slowly rotting away where they still have all of

1642
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 3: their physical faculties. And so often when you forget things,

1643
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 3: often you say to yourself, wait a minute, now, am

1644
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 3: I going crazy? It's my mind not going to work.

1645
01:30:56,320 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 3: And you can remember things, perhaps clearly from five, ten

1646
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 3: years ago, but you don't remember what's going on right now,

1647
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 3: and that's frightening. I saw this on the internets and

1648
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting. There's apparently a difference between

1649
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 3: long term memory and working memory. So you can remember

1650
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 3: the lyrics of the song twenty five years ago. If

1651
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 3: it's rap, you can beat out the rap just like

1652
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 3: you heard it twenty five years ago. But you wait

1653
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 3: a minute, word it? Where did I park my car?

1654
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 3: What was the name of that guy that I just

1655
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 3: met last week? And I was supposed to call long

1656
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 3: term memory visa VI working memory. And it turns out,

1657
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 3: in the case of music, which I love, I think

1658
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 3: you know that by now, music in and of itself

1659
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 3: is wonderful. It's also neurogically extravagant, which means it recruits

1660
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 3: multiple systems at once. Rhythm, you know, language, movement, emotion.

1661
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 3: They call those multiple, Yeah, they would call them that.

1662
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 3: That multiplicity strengthening and coding. By contrast, when you walk

1663
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 3: into a kitchen, for example, and you wonder why you

1664
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 3: walked into that room, it's called working memory. It's the

1665
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 3: brain's temporary hold on space, and it's fragile. It can

1666
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: hold only a small amount of information for a short period.

1667
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 3: Think of your computer. You've got RAM, and then you've

1668
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 3: got memory, and sometimes the RAM gets clogged up because

1669
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of it, and you've got to

1670
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 3: clear it. And so I guess in a sense, what

1671
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 3: we're talking about here is that brains work in different ways,

1672
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 3: both short term.

1673
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 2: And long term.

1674
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 3: And I found it fascinating when I read this week

1675
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 3: because I have a number of people in my family

1676
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 3: and a number of people that I know that have

1677
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 3: fallen victim to Alzheimer's. It frightens me because you wonder, well,

1678
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 3: if it's in your family, will it affect you. Alzheimer's

1679
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 3: is a classic example. Musical memory can remain relatively preserved

1680
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 3: long after other forms of recall deteriorate, and people that

1681
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,799
Speaker 3: have Alzheimer's, they'll remember the song, but they can't remember

1682
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 3: what happened five days ago. They can't remember who the

1683
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 3: person was that walked in the room yesterday that's standing

1684
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 3: in front of them today. And a lot of it happens,

1685
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 3: and you say to yourself, my god, I'm losing my

1686
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 3: mind when you're really not. Memory loss, according to what

1687
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:44,799
Speaker 3: I read this week, is frequently attentional overload. Ooh okay,

1688
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 3: well what does that mean? Well, yeah, it turns out

1689
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:54,719
Speaker 3: modern environments are saturated with interruptions. Think how many times

1690
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 3: your day is interrupted. You start a task and all

1691
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 3: of a sudden something happens. You get a ding, got

1692
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 3: a text, phone ring, somebody wants you, doorbell rings, You

1693
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 3: got to go over there, and then all of a sudden,

1694
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 3: you say, well, what what what was I going to

1695
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 3: do next? Working memory was never, from what I'm reading,

1696
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 3: designed to withstand this level of interference, and so there

1697
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 3: are workarounds. Everybody's got to work around for something. Right,

1698
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,919
Speaker 3: you want to do a task. Nobody attacks anything anymore.

1699
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 3: There's a there's c there's always a b or there's

1700
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 3: a tangent you know, you want to find a work around.

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01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:31,879
Speaker 2: I found this interesting.

1702
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 3: If you feel like sometimes that you're you're just losing

1703
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 3: your mind, feel like sometimes you don't remember what you're

1704
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 3: going to do, verbilize it, say it out loud. I'm

1705
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 3: going to get up now and go into the kitchen

1706
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 3: and get that cup. Or if you're going to take

1707
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 3: the cup into the kitchen, pick the cup up and

1708
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 3: walk into the kitchen, just don't walk into the kitchen.

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01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 2: And anymore.

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01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 3: When we think about what we're going to do before

1711
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,560
Speaker 3: we do it, maybe it helps us. But I just

1712
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:03,799
Speaker 3: wanted to touch on that before we were done today

1713
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 3: about how it's just so uncanny we can remember these

1714
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 3: songs from twenty five years and we can't remember why

1715
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 3: we walked into the room. It's overload, there's too much ram.

1716
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 3: We got to shut down and we got a reboot.

1717
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 3: So we find yourself in that situation. Remember that, well,

1718
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 3: it is really is just a workaround. Coming up on

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01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 3: two point fifty here on this Saturday afternoon, glad you

1720
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 3: are with us, a few more things to get to

1721
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 3: and then on to a little bit of baseball talk

1722
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 3: before Red's Baseball today at three thirty right here on

1723
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 3: the Home of the Red seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Now your host Ken Brew on news Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: Seven hundred WLW, A little bonus coverage today, we're leading

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Speaker 3: into Reds baseball. Coming up at the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 3: We've got the Reds against the Rangers today. The Reds

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Speaker 3: took on the Giants in a couple of games yesterday.

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Speaker 3: They split the squad up. One group went up to

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Speaker 3: play the Giants in the Giants home ballpark. The other

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Speaker 3: group stayed back in Goodyear and played the Giants down there.

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Speaker 3: The Reds came up with a couple of wins. The

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Speaker 3: road group beat San Francisco six to one. Chase Burns

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Speaker 3: started this game, but he only pitched a couple of innings,

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Speaker 3: one hit, two strikeouts. The Matt McClain was the other story,

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Speaker 3: went one for four. Matt McClain is just lighting it

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Speaker 3: up in spring training this year. Matt McClain right now

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Speaker 3: is hitting five forty three, five forty three. He has

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Speaker 3: nineteen hits.

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Speaker 2: In thirty five at bats.

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Speaker 3: Actually, when you figure in walks in forty at bats,

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Speaker 3: this guy's got nineteen hits and it's just like I say,

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Speaker 3: just to having a terrific, terrific spring. In the other game,

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Speaker 3: Brady Singer four innings, pitched three hits, he struck out two.

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Speaker 3: He walked to South Stewart. It had the RBI single

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Speaker 3: in a one nothing Reds win RBI single. South Stewart

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Speaker 3: now hitting three forty five. So okay. So the thing

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Speaker 3: that I guess the storyline in this game is Brady

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Speaker 3: Singer faced a few extra batters. I mean he walked

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Speaker 3: to and he gave up three hits. Didn't allow a

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Speaker 3: run of course, but that gave him a chance to

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Speaker 3: get some extra work in through those four innings. And

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Speaker 3: after the game what he met with the media, he

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Speaker 3: was very appreciative of that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, definitely had some traffic there for a little bit.

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Speaker 7: But you know it's good though. Sometimes figure how to

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Speaker 7: work out them, you know's well'sw spring China's four. Kind

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Speaker 7: of remember those situations and figure a way to get

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Speaker 7: out of it.

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Speaker 9: Where are you at right now? I think you get

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Speaker 9: two more starts before the season starts.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just throw a couple more there. Yeah, get up

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Speaker 7: to time innings or so next on and then maybe

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Speaker 7: six See where we're at.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's about it. A couple of more starts.

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Speaker 3: I mean, with opening day now on the horizon, what

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Speaker 3: are we eleven days out?

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Speaker 2: A little bit more than that.

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Speaker 3: Nevertheless, that's when things really kick into gear. I remember

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Speaker 3: Pete was telling me this years ago. He said, you know,

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Speaker 3: spring training is important. You want to get there, you

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Speaker 3: want to get your game in shape, you want to

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Speaker 3: get make sure that your swing is in shape. But

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Speaker 3: the final ten days is where everything should fall into

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Speaker 3: plays for you, both in as an a bat and

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Speaker 3: both as a fielder and for pitchers, especially because the

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Speaker 3: starters have about two starts left before they head north

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Speaker 3: here to Cincinnati, and of course Andrew Abbott is in

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Speaker 3: that mix. Named this week as opening day starter for

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Speaker 3: your Cincinnati Reds. Opening Day one week from this coming Thursday. Today,

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Speaker 3: they got the Rangers and it'll be Rent Louder on

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Speaker 3: the mound. He'll be followed by Emilio Pagan and then

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Speaker 3: Tony Santian and then Sam Mall and then TJ Antone

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Speaker 3: and Joan is always a great story for nothing less

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Speaker 3: than the fact that he's gone through all of those

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Speaker 3: arm surgeries. Pegan, of course, is the closer. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at his dats. He's had a very good spring. He's

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Speaker 3: had four outings, one clunker that was against the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: a week go, one inning, four hits, four runs, all earned,

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Speaker 3: but still against the A's, against the Diamondbacks, against Milwaukee,

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Speaker 3: all very strong starts. Same with a lot Louder today.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I look at Louder's last two starts and

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Speaker 3: they both were three three and two thirds against the Athletics.

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Speaker 2: The last start was not good.

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Speaker 3: Seven hits, five runs, three earned, struck out four, did

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Speaker 3: not walk anybody in three and two thirds.

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Speaker 2: So Louder is looking for a bounce back today.

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Speaker 3: Why do we anoint young superstars and try to compare

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Speaker 3: them with other superstars that have come before them. It's

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Speaker 3: a question my next guest has asked in one of

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Speaker 3: his great columns. Matt Snyder cbssports dot Com writes Snyder's

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Speaker 3: Soapbox once a week, and in this column he wants

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Speaker 3: to know why can't we just let develop being players

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Speaker 3: develop and not be anointed the next next Derek Jeter,

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Speaker 3: the next Barry Larkin, the next Ken Griffy Junior. Just

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Speaker 3: let him grow up, right, Just let them develop Matt

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Speaker 3: Snyder's standing by to join us right now here on

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Speaker 3: seven hundred w wel WTE, which we count down to

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Speaker 3: Red's baseball and Matt, how are you on this glorious Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I'm great and you always give me a big hit.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody other than like my dad,

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Speaker 4: if my brother is a bigger fan of the soapbox

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Speaker 4: than you, So thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: As always.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying, it just seems like you speak

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Speaker 3: common sense. And this whole thing about anointing these these kids,

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Speaker 3: these teenagers as the second coming of you know, Derek Jeter,

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Speaker 3: it just it drives me absolutely crazy. We've had examples

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Speaker 3: here in Cincinnati over the course of the last twenty

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Speaker 3: five years. You know, the Austin Kerns of the world,

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Speaker 3: the Ty Howington's of the world. They're gonna be the

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Speaker 3: next great thing and it never pans out, and who knows,

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Speaker 3: probably does a disservice to those players of a metal standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Well wait a minute, now, I have to live up

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Speaker 3: to this. I'm most than one hundred percent on this.

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. Why does the media keep doing.

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Speaker 4: This, I don't know, And it's to be fair. It's

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Speaker 4: I think a good number of us at this point

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Speaker 4: I have started to push back against it, but you're right,

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Speaker 4: it goes back decades, and I think it exploded with

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Speaker 4: the agent of the Internet. But even like Bryce Harper

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Speaker 4: on the cover Sports Illustrated when he was fifteen, saying

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Speaker 4: he's going to be the greatest player of all time,

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Speaker 4: like he actually had to fight against the bus label

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Speaker 4: for years, and are you kidding me? This guy was

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Speaker 4: awesome for the time he came up when he was nineteen.

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Speaker 4: And I actually think a lot of people would look

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Speaker 4: at Bryce's career and say they thought he was going

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Speaker 4: to be better and he's going to end up in

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. So that's probably a bit much.

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Speaker 4: But then the examples I talked about, and I know

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Speaker 4: you obviously saw it, because what last week, what really

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Speaker 4: raised my antenna and caused me to write it was

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Speaker 4: there's this kid named Sebastian from Venezuela. He's a catcher.

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Speaker 2: And there was a guy who reported that.

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Speaker 4: He signed with the Yankees and said that he let's see,

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Speaker 4: he has the power of Aaron Judge, the speed of

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Speaker 4: Ellie Breeze, and he's defensively like yadire Molina, and I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, all right, man, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 4: You have put one of those things on a kid.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I think would be acceptable is speed

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Speaker 4: for because you can't speed can't really fail unless you

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Speaker 4: have a lot of injuries, right right, But like you're saying,

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Speaker 4: we've got an Aaron Judge, Li de la Cruz YadA,

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Speaker 4: your Molina hybrid or you, I mean, get out of here.

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Speaker 4: And it did make me think, as I mentioned in

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Speaker 4: the article of Jason Dominga just a few years ago,

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Speaker 4: when a bunch of scouts were saying, he's like Mike Trout,

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Speaker 4: but he's better than Trout was at this point, and

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Speaker 4: somebody else said, like, no, what about he's Mickey Mayle.

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Speaker 4: Jason Dominga is right now is twenty three years old,

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Speaker 4: and I think almost everybody, if they.

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Speaker 2: Hear his name, thinks, oh, man, he's been.

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Speaker 4: A disappointment, or even a bus He's only twenty three.

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Speaker 5: What happened?

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Speaker 4: It's because in twenty nineteen we heard he was Mike

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Speaker 4: Crout Mickey Mantle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well let's take a coonia just for a second.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing to do that to somebody that's coming

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Speaker 3: out of Plano, Texas or you know Lexington, Kentucky. It's

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Speaker 3: another thing to do to a kid that's going to

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Speaker 3: be on a in a national stage internationally in the

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Speaker 3: United States of America.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I've been from I believe Venezuela crazy seventeen years old,

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Speaker 4: and you've got people who are already going to be

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Speaker 4: and you know the spring training fields nowadays, it's it

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Speaker 4: was long since become a cottage industry to go to

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Speaker 4: spring training and everything. The second this kid shows up Yankees,

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Speaker 4: So it'll be in Florida. In Florida, there will be

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Speaker 4: people flocking to watch him, looking forward to seeing the

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Speaker 4: next Aaron Judge, Slash Alidator Loocruse. Dear believe, I still

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Speaker 4: laugh when I say it, because you can't. There's no

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Speaker 4: way to to I just can't even imagine a player

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Speaker 4: who could have there's no possible way of physical a

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Speaker 4: human being could have judges power, Ellie's speed and still

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Speaker 4: be Molina behind the plate. It's just not I don't

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Speaker 4: see how that's physically possible.

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Speaker 5: Well, the team Superman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the ultimate example in my lifetime was Mickey Mantle.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we all know about him. Well, they had a

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Speaker 3: player that came along in his wake by the name

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Speaker 3: of Bobby Mercer, and Bobby Mercer was going to be

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Speaker 3: the next Mickey Mantle. Well, Bobby Mercer was never the

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Speaker 3: next Mickey Mantle. He was a very good player. He

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Speaker 3: wasn't a great player. But who knows if that didn't

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Speaker 3: happen to him coming up in the biggest media market

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Speaker 3: in the world, if that didn't happen to him coming up,

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Speaker 3: how much better could a player like Bobby Mercer be?

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Speaker 2: And that's one example.

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Speaker 3: That's one example out of I would guess at least

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Speaker 3: a couple of one hundred where the next greatest is

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Speaker 3: not necessarily the next greatest, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: he's a bum.

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Speaker 2: He flamed out there.

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Speaker 4: There has to be some mental baggage that you carry

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Speaker 4: with you when you hear that stuff, especially in baseball,

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Speaker 4: which is a daily game in which failure is very,

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Speaker 4: very common. You know, you go to the ballparker over

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Speaker 4: four for a few days. Now you start thinking, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be the next Mike Trout. Why died

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Speaker 4: I go over four two games in a row. Instead

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Speaker 4: of just being in the mindset that I need to

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Speaker 4: bounce back and be better tomorrow. It's a bit much

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Speaker 4: for me to put it on anybody, much less seventeen

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Speaker 4: year old who's coming to a foreign country. As you said, So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I wish we would stop doing it, but I don't

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Speaker 4: think we will. Because if you just said, the Yankees

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Speaker 4: signed to catch out of Venezuela, who's the top prospect

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Speaker 4: in this international class that doesn't pop as much as

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Speaker 4: Aaron Judge, Delly Dally Cruisey out of your molina, that cops,

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Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, everybody's paying attention.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or or you're looking for some sort of click,

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Speaker 3: some sort of angle, or whatever it may be that oh, well,

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Speaker 3: wait a minute, this kid flamed out. Maybe the front

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Speaker 3: office doesn't know what they're doing, or maybe the coaching

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Speaker 3: staff doesn't know, but the organization doesn't know what it's doing.

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Speaker 3: And then you're you're you're literally rooting out to other

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Speaker 3: angles on the story we're chatting with Matt Snyder CBS

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Speaker 3: sports dot com and how we want to annoy young

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Speaker 3: baseball players to be the next great thing, the next

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Speaker 3: person that has Cooper's Town all written over them.

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Speaker 2: And I, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Look at a guy like Eli Dayla Cruz, who probably

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Speaker 3: had a working knowledge of what the Cincinnati Reads we

1936
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 3: were all about, and the great names that populated the infield,

1937
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 3: somebody like, for example, Barry Larkin. But the only thing

1938
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 3: I can I can imagine is as as we get,

1939
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 3: as we get new, a new generation of players coming through,

1940
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 3: maybe that won't be the case.

1941
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 2: I'm just hoping that you know some of the.

1942
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 3: Legends in the game, Like you know, the comparison to

1943
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 3: Mickey Mantle. To Mickey Mantle isn't even in video games anymore,

1944
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 3: So it might message.

1945
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: It might, it might, it might not. Might Yeah, it

1946
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 2: might not be as big a deal. What do you think?

1947
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's hopefully something to that. The other

1948
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 4: thing I always I think about when you brought up Elliott,

1949
01:46:56,160 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 4: he fortunately is such a an nominally physically like six',

1950
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 4: five around two hundred, pounds a lot of, power off

1951
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 4: the chart, Speed LIKE i don't know if we've even

1952
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 4: seen anybody like him physically before in, Baseball so who

1953
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 4: would we even compare it To Exactly when you get

1954
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 4: a freak of nature like, that you don't have a

1955
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 4: point of. Comparison so it's it's better when It's, Hey

1956
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 4: you've got to watch this.

1957
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 13: Kid he's.

1958
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 4: Amazing he's got off the chart. Speed he also has,

1959
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 4: power he has great. Range it sorts out like it's

1960
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 4: better to just do that.

1961
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 2: Than throw names on the.

1962
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 4: GUY i would much much rather do that and let

1963
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 4: people see for.

1964
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 2: THEMSELVES i want to hit you with a couple of other.

1965
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 3: Things The reds have made a couple of ecquisitions since

1966
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 3: you AND i last talked. About one is interesting In Nathaniel.

1967
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 3: Lowe we'll see if he can recapture what he had In.

1968
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 3: Texas the, other obviously is Au Haneo. Suarez how much

1969
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 3: dynamically do you Think suarez brings to that, lineup because

1970
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like the metrics that are out, there

1971
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,640
Speaker 3: in Particular pakoda have a, real you, know real appreciation

1972
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 3: for that. Acquisition what is your theory on?

1973
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 4: That, YEAH i think that we the pendulum has gone

1974
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 4: too far in the other direction for me on power only,

1975
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 4: guys AND i know.

1976
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 5: That before with.

1977
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 4: You i've preached With Kyle, schwarber With Pete alonzo that

1978
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 4: those guys have gotten underrated for a long. Time they

1979
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 4: were probably, overrated and then everybody wanted to to react

1980
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 4: and adapt and everything and NOW i think THAT i

1981
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 4: think The mets are gonna, hurt are going to be

1982
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 4: hurting Without alonzo's forty home runs in the middle of that,

1983
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 4: lineup Behind sodo And.

1984
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 6: Lindor by the.

1985
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 4: Same, token The reds nobody with more than twenty two

1986
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 4: home runs last year and that Was, Ellie AND i

1987
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 4: know he was compromised in the second, half but still,

1988
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 4: like you don't Want ellie to be your main power.

1989
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 4: Guy you want him to be a to two hole

1990
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:50,759
Speaker 4: or even lead up guy and have the thunder behind.

1991
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 4: Him putting A Uhenio suarez in the middle of that

1992
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 4: lineup where he can hit forty five home, RUNS i

1993
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 4: really think it's a, big big needle, mover AND i

1994
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 4: think that stuff that those projections systems are underrating the

1995
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 4: impact that somebody like him can have on the. Lineup

1996
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 4: and not just, that but you've got South, stewart maybe

1997
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 4: a full year with. Him if he doesn't work, out

1998
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 4: Then Nathaniel lowe is kind of a lottery ticket. There

1999
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 4: but like he was terrible last, Year but if he's

2000
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 4: the guy that he was for The rangers in twenty

2001
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,720
Speaker 4: twenty two or even twenty three and twenty, four that

2002
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 4: could be a big help for The, reds AND i

2003
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 4: can't help but wonder also when you look at The

2004
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 4: red's got so much more production out of their pitching

2005
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 4: staff than the position players last. SEASON i almost wonder

2006
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 4: if at some, point if they're hurting for, offense if

2007
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 4: you might, say let's throw A heney at third. Base

2008
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:46,440
Speaker 4: let's Have Keeth Brian hayes just be a defensive replacement

2009
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 4: in the late, innings and then you can Get South

2010
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 4: stewart And Spencer stare in the. Lineup or if It's

2011
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 4: Nathaniel lowe at EITHER dh or first, base there's a

2012
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 4: way to maximize the offense. There they've got options, now

2013
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 4: and the big this deal for me is showing the

2014
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 4: capability of forty.

2015
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 6: Five home runs from one guy right in the middle

2016
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 6: of that.

2017
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 3: Line, yeah, Right, no all, things all things at least potentially.

2018
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 2: POSSIBLE i think.

2019
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 3: THERE i think they're better now than what they were

2020
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 3: from a projection standpoint Before suarez showed. Up he is

2021
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 3: the author Of the Leadoff, Man The history Of evolution

2022
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,600
Speaker 3: of And fun with The greatest catalyst in, Sports that

2023
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 3: is out right now and if you order it On,

2024
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 3: amazon like in the next few, minutes they'll have it

2025
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 3: to you by. Tomorrow he from cbssports Dot com Is Matt,

2026
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 3: Snyder Matt. Doug always great catching up with. You, well

2027
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 3: we'll do it again. Soon stay, well, okay sounds.

2028
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 2: Good thank you so, much and

2029
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 3: Stand by because at a matter of, minutes that's Your

2030
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 3: Cincinnati reds against The, rangers live right here on The

2031
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 3: home of The red seven HUNDRED w L w