Speaker 1: That's our motto here on the Eddie and Rocky Show.
Speaker 1: Keep your feet on the ground, rock and keep reaching
Speaker 1: for those stars, my friend.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Every single day, that's what we do. And we don't
Speaker 1: even get out of the atmosphere, but we try.
Speaker 3: We could be reaching for more taxes. Reach wallet, yeah, reaching.
Speaker 2: Into your wallet and get ready to pay the man.
Speaker 3: So look, I mean violence in downtown has been a
Speaker 3: big issue, you know, certainly last year and then most
Speaker 3: recently on New Year's Day, that eleven year old girl
Speaker 3: was shot at that playground on the West End. So
Speaker 3: of course people want to know what's what's going to
Speaker 3: be done. The mayor, by the way, was elected, and
Speaker 3: I think the same day he was elected, came out
Speaker 3: and said that they're gonna have to raise the income
Speaker 3: tax in the city.
Speaker 2: Now that I don't believe was.
Speaker 3: Anywhere mentioned in his uh in the lead up to
Speaker 3: the election, right, wasn't a part of his platform, But
Speaker 3: day one it gets announced. Now, currently folks who live
Speaker 3: in the city of Cincinnati are taxed to the tune
Speaker 3: of one point eight percent, and it sounds like that
Speaker 3: is rising.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk to a fellow who can speak to it.
Speaker 1: Arguing friend Steve Good and Steve welcome back to the program.
Speaker 4: Hey, good afternoon, guys.
Speaker 1: How are you good?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: So Steve, now look it, and you're being a former
Speaker 1: council person, would more boots on the ground as far
Speaker 1: as cobs being downtown help with all this? What do
Speaker 1: they do? And where does this money? Where would this
Speaker 1: money be appropriated? I guess is the first question.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's the big question. So I mean, look,
Speaker 4: we have a relatively decent earning tax compared to you know,
Speaker 4: we're at one point eight percent of all income and
Speaker 4: not just for city resident, anyone that works in the
Speaker 4: city pays it. So that's one of the things that's
Speaker 4: really tough here. So if you live in Green Township,
Speaker 4: or if you live in Madeira but you work downtown,
Speaker 4: have an office downtown, you're paying that one point eight percent.
Speaker 4: And for years people have been saying at city Hall, look,
Speaker 4: Columbus and Cleveland, you know they charged two point five
Speaker 4: They get away with it, So we quote have some space.
Speaker 4: I think that gives up a real competitive advantage that
Speaker 4: we have here. But what the mayor seemed to be
Speaker 4: saying that there's an inauguration yesterday was he was linking
Speaker 4: this increase to public safety spending, and we absolutely need
Speaker 4: more boots on the ground. We need more police officers.
Speaker 4: We're short of a compliment that was set back in
Speaker 4: two thousand and five. It's an entirely different city now,
Speaker 4: it's a bigger city. We have more attractions, we have
Speaker 4: a different neighborhoods, including over the Rhine in downtown, function
Speaker 4: in a completely different way than they did then. So
Speaker 4: we have to rethink policing and that's going to require
Speaker 4: more officers. But I was also troubled by something he
Speaker 4: said during his speech. He said public safety and poverty
Speaker 4: reduction efforts that get at crime. So it felt like
Speaker 4: we were getting into mayor Montdami territory very quickly in
Speaker 4: terms of additional spending boondoggles which we've seen already from
Speaker 4: this administration, like medical debt relief and other things that
Speaker 4: are sort of designed to get at poverty in some way,
Speaker 4: but seem to have had no impact whatsoever on the
Speaker 4: shootings downtown and over the Rhine and in the West End,
Speaker 4: where we've seen some of the most just horrific shootings,
Speaker 4: particularly shooting involving very young people, both as shooters and
Speaker 4: as victims. So look, if they were talking about raising
Speaker 4: taxes really to actually really redo and rethink how we
Speaker 4: do policing in this city, that's a conversation a lot
Speaker 4: of us, as city residents, would be willing to have.
Speaker 4: But I don't really think that's what's being discussed here.
Speaker 4: I think talking about public safety and policing is sort
Speaker 4: of a fig leaf for what looks to be just
Speaker 4: more programs spending, and we've already got too much of that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: See, let me ask you this, because I've heard both,
Speaker 3: But is it the fact that like we don't have
Speaker 3: the money to hire more officers or from cops that
Speaker 3: that I've talked to, there's a reluctant to one of
Speaker 3: our reluctance to want to be a cop because you
Speaker 3: know you're not supported, right, you know that from a
Speaker 3: crime prevention justice standpoint, you're not supported. You're not supported
Speaker 3: with the judges that are in place, you're not supported
Speaker 3: by the mayor. So is it purely a lack of
Speaker 3: funding and if we get more money, then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden there's gonna be all these officers and that's
Speaker 3: going to bring crime down?
Speaker 2: Or is it even going to have the effect.
Speaker 4: We wanted to well, it's it's complicated. I think the
Speaker 4: answer is both. I mean, I know that a lot
Speaker 4: of bigger cities have had issues with recruitment post kind
Speaker 4: of the George Floyd period. I mean, there was a
Speaker 4: period where a lot of politicians, including our mayor when
Speaker 4: he first ran for mayor, you know, he ran an
Speaker 4: ad or put out a piece of mail, but I
Speaker 4: still have here where he was openly critical of police
Speaker 4: officers and basically saying I'm going to stop racial profiling
Speaker 4: and things of that nature. And nobody appears a racial
Speaker 4: pro filing. I think that it is in the right mind.
Speaker 4: But that's something that you know that Cincinnati has been
Speaker 4: very aggressive about dealing with for almost thirty years now,
Speaker 4: and there haven't been any serious allegations about that in
Speaker 4: some time. So you know, there was an effort kind
Speaker 4: of post George Floyd, I think, both in the justice
Speaker 4: system and at city hall to really kind of blame
Speaker 4: police officers for what happened. That narrative is still very
Speaker 4: very much alive at the courthouse and at city Hall,
Speaker 4: and it is a morale killer. But that said, I mean,
Speaker 4: we also know that we our population has grown significantly
Speaker 4: the number of non city residents who are downtown on
Speaker 4: the weekends, particularly for concerts and baseball games, you know,
Speaker 4: the soccer stadium, et cetera. We know there were times
Speaker 4: when we have upwards of four to five hundred thousand
Speaker 4: people downtown on any given Friday or Saturday night, and
Speaker 4: between there over the Rhine and in the West End
Speaker 4: where the soccer stadium is. We need more officers to
Speaker 4: meaningfully police that. So it's a culture problem, and it's
Speaker 4: money problem, and it's an administrative problem too. We also
Speaker 4: have talk about a morale killer. We sort of have
Speaker 4: two police chiefs right now. I mean Chief TG is
Speaker 4: still technically the chief, even though she's been suspended since August. Well,
Speaker 4: they continue this, you know, orwellian investigation to find out
Speaker 4: what she did wrong after she was suspended. So you know,
Speaker 4: these are all morale killers. There is still just this this.
Speaker 4: You know, there's too much politics in the belizing. At
Speaker 4: some point or another, all the political rhetoric should be
Speaker 4: put aside and we should just be looking at what
Speaker 4: we need to do to maintain decent morale and what
Speaker 4: we need to do to maintain enough people there in
Speaker 4: the pipeline but you're right, recruitment's a problem. I'm told
Speaker 4: it has picked up a bit. We have kind of
Speaker 4: reduced some of the barriers to recruitment by being more
Speaker 4: open in the city to taking lateral hires from other departments.
Speaker 4: That was something that had long been kind of resisted
Speaker 4: by the city and I think they've gotten over that,
Speaker 4: and that's to the good. But it's it's both. It's
Speaker 4: both a morale issue, policy issue, and a money issue.
Speaker 3: Steve good as our guests, and see, let's get to
Speaker 3: the second part that you mentioned in the open there.
Speaker 3: Uh when when the major headline is Okay, there's there's
Speaker 3: a problem with crime, we need to raise taxes to
Speaker 3: get that under control. But then slipped into that is
Speaker 3: we need the revenue, yeah, for public safety, but also
Speaker 3: affordable housing and poverty disruption efforts, which that could mean
Speaker 3: a lot of things, right, And it just seems like
Speaker 3: a government, bureaucratic organization that that's going to be created
Speaker 3: with a bunch of people that are paid a lot
Speaker 3: of money to look at this and look at that
Speaker 3: with no real result.
Speaker 2: Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: No, it's it's the asterisks, you know to the statement
Speaker 4: that you know that kills the whole deal. You know,
Speaker 4: it's the footnote that takes back the the mean statement.
Speaker 4: And I would notice note that the mayor didn't know
Speaker 4: almost didn't ever use the word policing. He kept talking
Speaker 4: about public safety, which is this kind of much more
Speaker 4: generic term, and really what they're yeah, what they're talking
Speaker 4: about with public and then with these public safety and
Speaker 4: poverty disruption designed to get at the crime. So so
Speaker 4: it really does look like a lot of people are
Speaker 4: going to be thinking that they might be voting for
Speaker 4: supporting a tax increase to put more boots on the
Speaker 4: ground in terms of policing, but what they're really probably
Speaker 4: getting are more social programs and more kind of social
Speaker 4: welfare front of kind of concepts that are that are
Speaker 4: in theory designed to disrupt poverty. And we've seen that already.
Speaker 4: You know, we saw this huge thing that happened to
Speaker 4: Government Square, you know, where they were sending people in
Speaker 4: you know, with through nonprofits with city funds to give
Speaker 4: out sandwiches at the bus stop and hopes that that
Speaker 4: would make people less angry and less likely to hurt
Speaker 4: each other. But they still had to reroute the bus
Speaker 4: lines and they just had a shooting already here in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six at Government Square. So these we know
Speaker 4: that a lot of these poverty disruption efforts just end
Speaker 4: up going to nonprofits for pilot programs that really don't
Speaker 4: change anything. I mean, public safety and policing go hand
Speaker 4: at hand. I know it's sort of out of fashion
Speaker 4: right now, and it's certainly out of fashion and the
Speaker 4: more progressive circles that seem to be running city Hall
Speaker 4: at the moment, which you can't have a city without
Speaker 4: good law enforcement, and in these programs, at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, absolutely poverty plays a role in crime,
Speaker 4: there's no question. But economic development and jobs are the
Speaker 4: only proven mover they are rather than just giving money
Speaker 4: away through these programs.
Speaker 2: And Stee you make a great point.
Speaker 3: And if he had come out and said, look, here's
Speaker 3: what our force is right now, here's what it costs,
Speaker 3: here's the amount of funds we raise our x and
Speaker 3: that to do that, that's going to increase our police
Speaker 3: presence and get more boots on the ground, more officers
Speaker 3: out there. By twofold is going to go to increasing
Speaker 3: technology that they use, equipment, all that. But he did
Speaker 3: and he said public safety, which is just the broadest,
Speaker 3: you know, most utopian term out there.
Speaker 2: And and you're right, I think.
Speaker 3: People would if you if you approach it like that
Speaker 3: and said, look, we're gonna get more cops, We're gonna
Speaker 3: increase it by this amount, boom and boom boom, I
Speaker 3: think you might well go all right, I might, I
Speaker 3: might consider that.
Speaker 2: But when it's this kind of language, it doesn't make
Speaker 2: much sense.
Speaker 5: Well it was.
Speaker 4: It was kind of gaslighting, you know. I mean, I mean, look,
Speaker 4: it could mean any number of things. And I think
Speaker 4: you know a lot of people that you know that
Speaker 4: were there. I didn't go, but I watched a fair
Speaker 4: amount of it on live stream, you know, at the
Speaker 4: address yesterday, you know, left there thinking God, big, you know,
Speaker 4: he's actually making a giant concession here, because recall, we
Speaker 4: didn't have a crime problem. That was what they were
Speaker 4: arguing throughout the campaign last year. And so it sounded
Speaker 4: like a pretty significant concession on his part. But when
Speaker 4: you really get at what was said, when you look
Speaker 4: at you know, if you print it out and read it,
Speaker 4: you know, there really isn't a direct promise there to
Speaker 4: to really invest more significantly in law enforcement. I didn't
Speaker 4: see it anyway, then it really does leave the door
Speaker 4: open for them to spend the money however they want.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: Note also, you know, we have this thing called the
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Futures Commission, which is a bunch of business leaders
Speaker 4: that issued a report about two years ago at the
Speaker 4: Mayor's request, and they also recommended raising the earnings tax,
Speaker 4: but they wanted to dedicate that money for economic development,
Speaker 4: job growth, and new housing, and they wanted to put
Speaker 4: it in a very kind of dedicated and confined special fund.
Speaker 4: This version of the tax increase that the Mayor seems
Speaker 4: to be a pushing here does not have any strings
Speaker 4: on it. It's just like, hey, trust us, we're going
Speaker 4: to use this to get at public safety, and public
Speaker 4: safety includes poverty reduction, and poverty reduction means whatever the
Speaker 4: hell we say it means. And that's what I took
Speaker 4: away from it.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's Steve Gooden. We will let you go,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. We'll see how this shakes out, because
Speaker 1: what's the Mayor's put what a sixty day kind of
Speaker 1: timeframe on this thing.
Speaker 4: That's my understanding of got to council, and I'm very
Speaker 4: curious what they make of it.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Take care, thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you go in there, they say, right now,
Speaker 1: it's one point eight percent here in town Columbus Cleveland
Speaker 1: two point five. To go in there and say let's
Speaker 1: make it two point twenty five, we still look like heroes.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the art of government right there.
Speaker 3: Still may still make the case for much less, which
Speaker 3: again I mean the fact that we are less than
Speaker 3: than Columbus and Cleveland, that that's a good thing. That's
Speaker 3: you're more attractive to folks. But we'll see with that.
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Speaker 1: We'll park your car. It was forty dollars. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then if you want to, Valet was like seventy.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of places, and we went to
Speaker 3: one in Florida a couple years ago. They don't even
Speaker 3: allow you to self park your car. You must valet.
Speaker 14: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah, then you're paying for that, and
Speaker 3: then you you got tipped the guy and you gotta
Speaker 3: wait fifteen minutes to get your car.
Speaker 2: I hate it.
Speaker 3: So I get both sides of it, but I certainly
Speaker 3: understand that the people that don't want those Airbnb homes
Speaker 3: in their own neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to Brett and Mason about it. Hey, Brett,
Speaker 1: thanks for calling, buddy. What do you have?
Speaker 11: Yeah, a couple of days. One, you guys are right
Speaker 11: about what Blackstone also does. For Blackstone, for example, is
Speaker 11: they'll buy multiple homes in an area and then they
Speaker 11: will price those homes out super high to continue to
Speaker 11: drive the prices up in that neighborhood because you know
Speaker 11: how like you do comps, you know how they do
Speaker 11: two or three cops.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they manipulate the comps too, So it's really bad.
Speaker 11: And then I found out that they're actually contracting with
Speaker 11: builders and building entire neighborhoods and owning the whole thing.
Speaker 11: So instead of buying individual single family homes, they're making
Speaker 11: deals with tons with builders and building an entire neighborhood
Speaker 11: and buying every single single family home in that neighborhood
Speaker 11: because that builder just built the Trump's doing it is great.
Speaker 11: He saw this happening, see, and he saw how they
Speaker 11: were destroying the market, like you said, Rocky for those
Speaker 11: first time home buyers and making him impossible.
Speaker 2: So I'm really surprised he.
Speaker 11: Even did this. To be honest with you, I didn't
Speaker 11: even know that he knew this was going on. So yeah,
Speaker 11: I agree, it's it's a great move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really yeah.
Speaker 3: Because these companies they have billions of dollars, so they
Speaker 3: can kind of wait things out a little bit and
Speaker 3: just drive that price up. They don't need their rent
Speaker 3: money or whatever right now. So, yeah, they drive it up.
Speaker 3: And as anyone who's bought a house knows, it goes
Speaker 3: by the comps. And if every comp around is all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, an exorbitant price, guess what
Speaker 3: yours is going to be too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well that's.
Speaker 11: Look.
Speaker 1: When we was right on the money, having just sold
Speaker 1: our house a couple of years ago, our goofy next
Speaker 1: door neighbor got mad at us because we'd lived in
Speaker 1: a house for twenty years. Guess what, we sold it
Speaker 1: for a lot more money than we bought it for.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, what you're doing is jogging up the
Speaker 1: Texas around here, Like, what do you want me to
Speaker 1: do here? Dude, live here the rest of my life
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be here. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: also driving the price of his house too, That's what
Speaker 1: I told That's what I told him. I was like,
Speaker 1: you don't get the equation. Huh.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, well look I understand being upset, but people
Speaker 3: got to live their life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: You don't.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna expect you to stay in your house.
Speaker 2: You don't want to.
Speaker 1: Just to help that guy, it's me and my wife
Speaker 1: and a one acre lot in a five bedroom house.
Speaker 1: Sure we'll stick around just for old times sake.
Speaker 3: You gonna now let me ask you this. Do you
Speaker 3: miss the house and the privacy and the own driveway
Speaker 3: and the own garage and stuff.
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I hadn't lived in because we live in a condo.
Speaker 1: Now if you didn't know that, and and I hadn't
Speaker 1: lived in an apartment since I was early single.
Speaker 3: Right well, I mean you got that top floor of
Speaker 3: the whole building, and you know, got the east wing
Speaker 3: in the west and all that, so it's not.
Speaker 1: Too bad you got to ride the uh uh, my
Speaker 1: private elevator is on the fritz right now. I do
Speaker 1: have to take the elevator with the other people.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 3: That's why I asked you a little rock slumming around
Speaker 3: with the rural folks now, and you could be sitting
Speaker 3: in your own house.
Speaker 1: To get in there, you know, the private elevator whisk
Speaker 1: me right down.
Speaker 2: Right there, the car waiting right there.
Speaker 1: And the shared elevator smells like fart. You shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to deal with that, I know. Right with that, we
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Speaker 1: Rocky talking about affordable housing and or lack thereof. Let's
Speaker 1: talk to you as Sean and Della High. Hey Sean,
Speaker 1: what do you got?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 19: So, I had a couple of neighbors or a neighbor
Speaker 19: that sold their house to a company called Conrex. They
Speaker 19: paid one hundred and twenty thousand in cash for it. Sorry,
Speaker 19: I'm starting my truck, but they paid one hundred and
Speaker 19: twenty cash.
Speaker 2: And then I went on.
Speaker 19: The website like a year later, just checking the property
Speaker 19: values and they sold. Conrects sold that house the Conrects
Speaker 19: Company Incorporated for three hundred and ninety eight thousand dollars
Speaker 19: four months later.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 19: Wow, and there's not a house in my neighborhood where
Speaker 19: three hundred ninety eight thousand.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: So I mean in your experience then what what what
Speaker 3: jacked it up? Just were other houses around the area?
Speaker 19: No, Now, it wasn't even four months later in conrect
Speaker 19: sold at the conrect Company Incorporated.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, it's.
Speaker 2: On the Ham of the County.
Speaker 6: Whatever that website is.
Speaker 11: You can check on.
Speaker 19: Properties and you know, history of sales and stuff.
Speaker 1: Well that's that's and thanks Sean in this corporate buyaps man.
Speaker 3: Well again, hopefully the Trump's is going to do something
Speaker 3: about that. That was the big announcement that that came
Speaker 3: out today. So let's uh, let's get Jay on in
Speaker 3: Dayton right quick. Hey Jay, what you got on the
Speaker 3: mayor and the tax hike?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 6: You guys are incredible, uh for starters.
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Speaker 6: Rocky, both of you guys.
Speaker 1: So what we appreciate it and thanks and thanks Jay
Speaker 1: and we lost j uh So coming up here we're
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Speaker 1: to talk about the X the Twitter thing. What are
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Speaker 3: Grock Grock AI, which is the AI version of series
Speaker 3: of X. Well, no, but it's like it's like the
Speaker 3: chat gpt of because yeah, that's one Google has that
Speaker 3: now too. Yeah, and so what you know, A lot
Speaker 3: a lot of times I see used is people will
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Speaker 3: will go, hey, Grock, explain what happened here? And then
Speaker 3: it'll go through and and kind of lay lay it
Speaker 3: all out just subjectively. But I guess now what it's
Speaker 3: being used for is it's used to undress women. And I,
Speaker 3: in fact came across one of these dads, and you
Speaker 3: know me, I never like to look at those sort
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Speaker 1: on this program. We wouldn't bring stuff to you the
Speaker 1: American people. Were we not to look into it ourselves?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 3: It is our jobs, yes, if not our calling duty.
Speaker 3: So for instance, I believe it was yesterday, there was
Speaker 3: a it was a picture of a woman in a like.
Speaker 2: A cop outfit.
Speaker 3: Cop outfit, okay, it's like sitting on a couch, and
Speaker 3: it said like, hey, groc would you like to see
Speaker 3: what I look like in a bikini? And again I
Speaker 3: didn't want to look at it, but I I you know,
Speaker 3: I showed purposes. I had to click on it and boom,
Speaker 3: there she was in a very very very small bikini. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just that. So you see these sort of things
Speaker 3: all over again. I don't really look at her, but
Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: See, I think that's I don't I remember reading this story.
Speaker 1: It's been a few weeks, but I think that's how
Speaker 1: this hall started, with some lady with just goofing around
Speaker 1: with it. And and it was a picture. There's a
Speaker 1: posted a picture of herself and go, hey, what would
Speaker 1: that what would I look like naked or something? And
Speaker 1: sure enough, bo.
Speaker 2: And I think the issue is it's not.
Speaker 3: You know, a and it's it's not a real picture.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it can be considered like
Speaker 3: a loot image or you know, anything illegal like that,
Speaker 3: because it's not actually a picture of a woman naked
Speaker 3: for real. It's what AI's derivation of that which looks on.
Speaker 3: We will talk to her, but it's complicated. But I
Speaker 3: want to get to the bottom of this because I
Speaker 3: don't want to see any more of this smut ed
Speaker 3: on on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many people are going to do that?
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Speaker 2: This is Jim Hello gym started advert ring.
Speaker 1: Rock is being used to manufacture sexam pictures.
Speaker 3: Yes, to undress women. But again, as we said earlier,
Speaker 3: the issue is you can ask roc to hey, here's this,
Speaker 3: you know whatever, here's DEMI Levado, right, I mean, just
Speaker 3: just to pick somebody right now, make her up here
Speaker 3: naked boo, and it'll do it. Now, it's not actually
Speaker 3: her naked, it's an AI drivetive, but it looks very,
Speaker 3: very very real. But still it raises the question do
Speaker 3: people out there really want to see this stuff?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk to a fellow who knows all about this,
Speaker 1: and we can We're going to have we can debate
Speaker 1: the moral the morality of it all. It's just insane,
Speaker 1: Dave had her. You can speak to the tech issue here.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, buddy, Good to talk to you again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks guys.
Speaker 6: Happy New Year to both you and all your listeners.
Speaker 6: Good to be back. And this is an interesting topic
Speaker 6: because I don't know that there's really going to be
Speaker 6: a perfect solution for it, but just based on the
Speaker 6: way these AI chatbots and large language models work, So yeah,
Speaker 6: it's an interesting one that's created a lot of controversy,
Speaker 6: especially in the tech world.
Speaker 1: Well, and one of the things too is yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's it's one thing, and it's and that's I'm going
Speaker 1: to say, it's not right under any circumstances. But a
Speaker 1: lot of this is like, it's not kitty porn, but
Speaker 1: it's nonetheless. One lady said that some of the somebody
Speaker 1: found a picture of her when she was fourteen, and
Speaker 1: I've used it to make I guess, naked pictures of her.
Speaker 1: That's just that's insane.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I agree, And obviously that's also illegal in
Speaker 6: most places. Right you get into the whole child sexual
Speaker 6: abuse material angle of this, And you know, I was
Speaker 6: just just reading up on this a little bit to
Speaker 6: kind of see where the lass because this all started
Speaker 6: about a week ago when apparently, you know, there was
Speaker 6: this whole bikini craze for a while and even Musk
Speaker 6: like made a picture of himself in a bikini, and
Speaker 6: you know, I think that led people then, and there's
Speaker 6: apparently you know, I mean, this sort of stuff has
Speaker 6: gone on for a long time. I know we've talked
Speaker 6: about it in the past, like in the early days
Speaker 6: of deep fakes, the idea that you could create very
Speaker 6: realistic looking photos of people and videos of people being
Speaker 6: and things and in compromising positions and so forth. So
Speaker 6: you know, this is just the extension of that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 6: You know, most of these these uh I hate the
Speaker 6: term chatbot personally, but that's what most people seem to
Speaker 6: think of. I mean, it's really a generative AI large
Speaker 6: language model.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 6: You know, whether it's Jemini, chatzpt Grock, quad perplexity, those
Speaker 6: are probably the five biggest ones most people know about.
Speaker 6: You go in and enter prompt and it's you know,
Speaker 6: it's a non deterministic model. It uses probability to generate text, video, audio, whatever.
Speaker 6: Obviously that the ability to generate much more realistic stuff
Speaker 6: continues to approve. And this whole bikini thing seem to
Speaker 6: have started this. And then apparently at least someone saw
Speaker 6: a picture of two girls estimated to be I think
Speaker 6: the age of like twelve and fourteen, who are in
Speaker 6: you know, these sort of sexually suggestive things, and then
Speaker 6: that led us all the sort of kick off. So
Speaker 6: at least from what I've read, I have not seen
Speaker 6: any accusation of what I would describe a real child
Speaker 6: sexual abuse material. Now I'm not an attorney, so you know,
Speaker 6: take what I'm paying for, what it's worth is how
Speaker 6: I understand it. All you know of like actual needs
Speaker 6: of children and so forth. Although I don't know that
Speaker 6: that couldn't be done, it hasn't happened. And probably has
Speaker 6: happened sadly and sickly somewhere. I think for the most part,
Speaker 6: you know that this was more of an issue where
Speaker 6: you know, it's taking photos of children and then like
Speaker 6: putting them in these suggestive attire. Again, from what I've
Speaker 6: read about, I haven't seen any of this stuff myself, guys.
Speaker 6: And then you know, people started to complain about it,
Speaker 6: and then you know, Groc itself responded, and then Musk responded,
Speaker 6: and you know, Musk said, quote, anyone using groc to
Speaker 6: make your legal content will suffer the same consequences if
Speaker 6: they upload I legal content, and then apparently ask the
Speaker 6: safety team said, you know, essentially the same thing. So,
Speaker 6: you know, part of the problem with all these, guys
Speaker 6: is you have billions of people in the world, bellions
Speaker 6: of people using these tools. And while you can try
Speaker 6: to build all kinds of guard rail into these things
Speaker 6: to stop people from saying, hey, show me how to
Speaker 6: make an explosive device or whatever it is, you wouldn't
Speaker 6: want them to do. You know, since since the beginning
Speaker 6: of the chatbot praise, we've seen people doing what's known
Speaker 6: as jailbreaking quote unquote, This idea of I'm going to
Speaker 6: attempt to get this tool to do something it's not
Speaker 6: supposed to do. And you know, I think one of
Speaker 6: the things that would be tricky about this is why
Speaker 6: I put my programmers out on is Okay, can I
Speaker 6: if there's a photo of two younger children. Now, obviously
Speaker 6: if they're like infants, for very small children, that's one thing.
Speaker 6: But you know, I know lots of and I have
Speaker 6: known lots of people over the years who seem to
Speaker 6: look much older than their age, especially if they were
Speaker 6: dressed up. You know, can it accurately look at a photo,
Speaker 6: determine someone's age and then say, okay, this falls under
Speaker 6: the realm of the legal activities because the age of
Speaker 6: the person a person's in this photo, you know, would
Speaker 6: put them into the sea sam space versus this is adult.
Speaker 6: And again, I still think it's distasteful for people to
Speaker 6: go in and say, okay, you know, put someone into
Speaker 6: bikini or whatever. I'm not a big fan of the
Speaker 6: whole idea, and I don't waste my time doing stuff
Speaker 6: like this, but I think to see sam angle the
Speaker 6: child's sexual abuse material when you get that urn, that's
Speaker 6: what it means is a concern, And you know, certainly.
Speaker 6: I'm glad we have laws to try to tamp that
Speaker 6: stuff down. It'll be interesting to see where this goes
Speaker 6: over time, because I'm not sure how they're going to
Speaker 6: stop it entirely. Just find the nature of the way
Speaker 6: these things work, right.
Speaker 3: So look, if AI in GROC is so advanced technology
Speaker 3: and they're smart people behind it, isn't there a seemingly
Speaker 3: simple way to fix it, to not allow it to
Speaker 3: do this?
Speaker 2: Can't someone whoever's in charge.
Speaker 3: Of this thing like just not allow you to prompt
Speaker 3: a what would be considered a Lewde picture of someone.
Speaker 6: Well that's a good question, Rockie, But you know your
Speaker 6: definition of lose photo of someone in mine are probably different,
Speaker 6: all right. I don't know, We're ours are probably very
Speaker 6: just sent It's very similar, actually, but a.
Speaker 1: Whole other level, by the way, But I don't want
Speaker 1: to be in partners. You guys are amateurs.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, So so you know you've got that whole
Speaker 6: who decides. Now again, we have laws, thankfully to say
Speaker 6: certain types of things are illegal, and you know, I'm
Speaker 6: glad those laws exist, and I'm glad we go after
Speaker 6: this sort of exploitation kids for sure. But again, if
Speaker 6: if you have a photo of let's just say teenagers, right,
Speaker 6: let's say like a sixteen year old teenager. I would say,
Speaker 6: if you just asked your average human being, you know, okay,
Speaker 6: how old does this person look? Especially if they look older.
Speaker 6: You know, some are going to assume that they're probably
Speaker 6: legitimate adults, So I don't again, you know, you, I'm
Speaker 6: sure they've got rules.
Speaker 29: Built into all of these things. Like you say, people
Speaker 29: try to deal break them and get them to do
Speaker 29: things they weren't designed to do, they aren't supposed to do,
Speaker 29: generate illegal content all the time, you know, And one
Speaker 29: of the ways that that's often done is you just
Speaker 29: keep at it, right, You ask it a question, knowing it,
Speaker 29: you prompt it with something you know it's not supposed
Speaker 29: to answer, and it says, yeah, sorry, I can't do that,
Speaker 29: I can't tell you that or.
Speaker 6: Whatever, and then you keep coming back at it with
Speaker 6: different perspectives, different angles, different takes on it, until you
Speaker 6: finally get it to do what you want again. And
Speaker 6: then these things, you know. One of the reasons why
Speaker 6: I think some of the bloom is off the ai
Speaker 6: ros is the way these large language models work. Again,
Speaker 6: it's all probabilistic, right, you can send a prompt to
Speaker 6: any one of these things and get a different answer
Speaker 6: every single time. It's not deterministic. You know, it's not
Speaker 6: like two plus two equals four all the time. It
Speaker 6: uses a probabilistic model for what it comes up with.
Speaker 6: And that's why again I'm saying I think it's a
Speaker 6: tricky challenge. You could certainly put rules in there and say, Okay,
Speaker 6: if someone asks a prompt that has this word in it,
Speaker 6: or has this phrase in it, or is asking for
Speaker 6: this sort of thing, simply say I can't do that.
Speaker 6: But when people get really creative when they're prompting, I'm
Speaker 6: not sure you could can see that every possible way
Speaker 6: someone could eventually ask it to do something it's not
Speaker 6: supposed to or you know, it's not allowed to do,
Speaker 6: Like this situation right here. It's a tricky challenge. I
Speaker 6: would be surprised personally if they ever come up with
Speaker 6: a bullet based on the way these things currently work,
Speaker 6: a bulletproof way to stop something like this.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Dave Hatter and guys, we've talked about
Speaker 1: this several times on this show. You've got people who
Speaker 1: have really seemingly nothing better to do than to sit
Speaker 1: around and do exactly what you're talking about, Dave, Do
Speaker 1: just sit around and go, Okay, I'm going to say,
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask the same question of this thing
Speaker 1: whatever five hundred times until I get the results that
Speaker 1: I want. Is that not what happens here?
Speaker 6: And yeah, you know you just came trying different takes
Speaker 6: on the prompt until you sometimes can get it, you know,
Speaker 6: to jail to jail break it, and get it to
Speaker 6: produce something it's not supposed to produce. And I mean
Speaker 6: there have been plenty of examples. Now, you hope over
Speaker 6: time those the programmers building these things and the models
Speaker 6: themselves get better, but you know, we continue to see
Speaker 6: examples where people are able to jail break these things
Speaker 6: and get them to do things that are not supposed
Speaker 6: to do. This to me just seems like the latest
Speaker 6: example of it, and you know, it's generated a lot
Speaker 6: of press. The response from x slash Musk was interesting,
Speaker 6: you know, but I do get his point of Okay,
Speaker 6: you know, one way to potentially tamp it down, especially
Speaker 6: if there's not a clear cut technological solution. And again,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm not an expert on the end working
Speaker 6: for these things. Got I just know how it generally works,
Speaker 6: and that's where I see some problems with it. Is
Speaker 6: to say, okay, you know, if you upload content that
Speaker 6: is illegal, or you use my tools to generate content
Speaker 6: that is illegal, we will report you to the police.
Speaker 6: You know, and you know you will suffer the consequences
Speaker 6: of whatever legal actions occur as a result of that.
Speaker 6: You know, that will hopefully tample out of it down
Speaker 6: simply because people I'm sure typically Musk means things you know,
Speaker 6: or those things when he says he will, I fully expect,
Speaker 6: you know, they'll start reporting people if this sort of
Speaker 6: thing continues. So hopefully that will that will put some
Speaker 6: of it to rest. But clearly that won't get there.
Speaker 6: That will not take care of all of it.
Speaker 3: And and Dave, I know you're not a lawyer, but
Speaker 3: but to me, but we we have this conversation often
Speaker 3: when when it comes to AI, and that's the whole well,
Speaker 3: what is real and what isn't? Because my you know,
Speaker 3: throughout all of history, if my eyeballs tell me it's real,
Speaker 3: it's real. But now that's not necessarily the case. So
Speaker 3: couldn't someone who uh, you know, said, show me so
Speaker 3: and so in a in a bikini. Right, couldn't that
Speaker 3: person make the case well, I didn't upload a picture,
Speaker 3: a real picture of her in a seductive outfit. It's yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not real, it's generated.
Speaker 2: I didn't. It's not actually her. Could couldn't that be
Speaker 2: a defense?
Speaker 6: Well, you're right, I'm not an attorney, but probably maybe.
Speaker 6: But I guess here's my here's my angle on that.
Speaker 6: You know, you entered the prompt that created that photo,
Speaker 6: the photo quote unquote, let's call it an image since
Speaker 6: it's not a photo, right, I entered the.
Speaker 3: Prompt to create a a fictitious, non real photo that
Speaker 3: looks real.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, And if that fits into the child sexual
Speaker 6: abuse material bucket or some other illegal type of content,
Speaker 6: you know you initiated the prompt that created that. I
Speaker 6: think someone could argue that, Okay, you know, yes, that
Speaker 6: image is not real, but it fits the Again. Then
Speaker 6: you know, guys, we're getting into a wild West kind
Speaker 6: of territory here. Whether it's not an attorney and there's
Speaker 6: no case law on any of this stuff at this point,
Speaker 6: and this is one of the reasons why copyright is
Speaker 6: such a problem with this. I'm like unless something is
Speaker 6: recently changed. You know, if you go in today and
Speaker 6: you create an image us in one of these tools,
Speaker 6: you can't copyright it in the traditional way because who
Speaker 6: owns it? You know. Yeah, you could make an argument that, well,
Speaker 6: it was you know, your intellectual property that wrote the
Speaker 6: prompts that created it. I don't know, It's this is
Speaker 6: all going to get really interesting, you know, as these
Speaker 6: tools progress and get better and better and better at
Speaker 6: creating realistic looking audio video or video and audio sorry,
Speaker 6: video and images is what I'm trying to say, plus
Speaker 6: audio as well. Right, the whole deep sate angle of
Speaker 6: audio and the ability to run scams on people because
Speaker 6: you close someone's voice as a whole separate and very
Speaker 6: concerning topic. It comes back to what you said, Rock.
Speaker 6: I mean, you're getting to the point where you cannot
Speaker 6: assume that just because you see something online, even if
Speaker 6: it comes from a quote reputable source unquote, is legitimate
Speaker 6: at this point, right, it could have been created by
Speaker 6: one of these tools. And you know, even smart people
Speaker 6: get fooled by this stuff occasionally. And you know, someone
Speaker 6: who you normally trust, some reputable media outlet, you know,
Speaker 6: especially in a breaking news type situation could share things
Speaker 6: that are not real, and that's one of the reasons
Speaker 6: why everyone needs to slow down, take a breath, and
Speaker 6: you know, consider that anything you see at this point
Speaker 6: has at least a you know, probably fifty to fifty
Speaker 6: shot of being fake, especially if there's some sort of
Speaker 6: political or financial angle to it.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well that Dave will have this conversation for
Speaker 1: the next twenty five years. I'm guessing I started hate
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred years, but did Dave hadter It is
Speaker 1: our pleasure to talk to you again, son, Happy New Year.
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Speaker 1: All right, bag with Eddie and Rocky. It is Wednesday,
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming we do have Willie at five o'clock Correxor.
Speaker 1: That is correct.
Speaker 2: I spoke with him a little bit ago.
Speaker 1: He's fired up as usual as usual going on and
Speaker 1: we'll we'll again. It's the topic du jour. We could
Speaker 1: come up with a topic. Hey, Willy, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the rings around Saturn. Okay, you're speaking of that.
Speaker 2: Back in nineteen forty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, until then at got a little So this is
Speaker 3: These are from internal numbers that I get from ESPN
Speaker 3: and hopefully they don't mind me sharing them. So the
Speaker 3: you know, the manchers out there. Oh, there's all these
Speaker 3: bowl games. Nobody pays attention to these bowl games. Nobody
Speaker 3: watches these bowl games. Yes they do. And this is
Speaker 3: just on the non college football playoff bowls. The thirty
Speaker 3: three non CFP Bulls on ESPN platformed every platforms averaged
Speaker 3: three point one million viewers, up thirteen percent from last year.
Speaker 3: This is their highest audience since the twenty fifteen season.
Speaker 3: Four Bulls saw their highest viewer viewership on record, while
Speaker 3: ten hit at least a five year high and eight
Speaker 3: hit a ten year high. His Bulls continue to deliver
Speaker 3: outsize audiences for ESPN.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: On E one, the twenty six games average two point
Speaker 3: four million viewers, and it has some of them listed here.
Speaker 2: The Citrus Bowl.
Speaker 3: Again, these are all non CFP bowls, which was Michigan
Speaker 3: and Texas, great matchup nine million viewers, Pop Tarts Bowl
Speaker 3: which everyone goes nuts about for sure, Georgia Tech and
Speaker 3: BYU eight point seven million, Gator Bowl, X million, Music
Speaker 3: City Bowl, five point three million Military Bowl which I
Speaker 3: did two point five million, which is their highest in
Speaker 3: years I think third highest ever for that bowl. I
Speaker 3: take all the credit for that. The Rate Bowl, I
Speaker 3: get the Rate Bowl between New Mexico and Minnesota. Okay,
Speaker 3: not exactly a marquee matchup four point four or five million,
Speaker 3: years best in two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: Now, how much of that is gambling?
Speaker 1: How much as a gambling exactly?
Speaker 3: Maybe, But I'm not sure we as a company care
Speaker 3: why you're watching, just that you are watching, because that
Speaker 3: means ratings, that means.
Speaker 1: Revenue, absolutely what and it and that explains everything though
Speaker 1: done in I mean every all these people who are
Speaker 1: gambling on everything, and you pretty much sports gambling is
Speaker 1: legal in every state now right. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's every date, but it's damn close. Yeah, And you
Speaker 1: got your app right there on your phone and you
Speaker 1: just start playing around. You start blah blah blah, who
Speaker 1: do you got in the New Mexico State game or whatever? Well,
Speaker 1: I've already been paid attention to that. Well, and then
Speaker 1: you start looking into it and the way you go.
Speaker 3: Correct and you know, but again people people are watching,
Speaker 3: and I think there's still uh so, by the way,
Speaker 3: so sports betting is currently leagueing thirty eight states plus Washington,
Speaker 3: d C, Puerto Rico. Yeah so, but look there's a
Speaker 3: lot going going forward, which is why these balls remain.
Speaker 3: You know, number one, people watch them, sure, right, and
Speaker 3: number two it's it's in a window of time where
Speaker 3: there's you know, there's not a lot going on, you know,
Speaker 3: and you got standalone windows, you got people off work,
Speaker 3: and it's a beautiful thing, which is why they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: then you do it with the bulls.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see that happening because of everything
Speaker 2: I just read to you.
Speaker 1: I got to tell you there were a couple of
Speaker 1: times we were off that two weeks. There were a
Speaker 1: couple of times when I was sitting on the couch
Speaker 1: and I watching TV, just flipping the dollar around and
Speaker 1: I come up on a football game that I don't
Speaker 1: even know was on. Iver watch it. Yeah, we catch
Speaker 1: a little bit other. Yeah, sure, that's exactly right. So
Speaker 1: I think, you know, a lot of people are doing that,
Speaker 1: a lot of people.
Speaker 3: So I, you know, I understand when people say, oh,
Speaker 3: college football.
Speaker 2: Is ruined and nil, and look.
Speaker 3: At the situation go on where right now with the
Speaker 3: Washington quarterback, he committed that he's coming back. He announced
Speaker 3: he was coming back, which a is funny to me
Speaker 3: that people now make an announcement that they're coming back
Speaker 3: to the college that they supposedly committed to before you
Speaker 3: and they're never like screwed over it. But now then
Speaker 3: like then like the next day he's in the portal
Speaker 3: and he's at like a basketball game with Lane Kiffin
Speaker 3: at LSU.
Speaker 2: It's very and so yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3: I understand that there's a lot of things that are
Speaker 3: broken about it, but but a lot of people are watching.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: The one thing related to this I thought was interesting was,
Speaker 3: you know, there was a who was It was another big,
Speaker 3: big you know, like like Donor person was basically like, look,
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not investing in anymore because he's a
Speaker 3: These these kids don't even call and say thank you.
Speaker 3: And like if I'm a say I'm a you know, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm a Notre Dame alumni, and I want Notre Dame
Speaker 3: to be good. I want to invest money in some
Speaker 3: kids to come. I want you to be invested in this,
Speaker 3: in making the university, in this football program better. And
Speaker 3: that means more than one year. That means like, you know,
Speaker 3: so these people are finding out. So I gotta pay
Speaker 3: this kid for a year, and I want him to
Speaker 3: be all in as all in as I am. We
Speaker 3: ain't all in, not even closed, and he's gone the
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that all of a Sudden, Alabama
Speaker 1: and all for some six million dollars whatever the case
Speaker 1: might be.
Speaker 2: You know, that's exactly here. It is right here. I
Speaker 2: found it.
Speaker 3: A long time Colorado booster is expressing his frustration with
Speaker 3: funding payments to players.
Speaker 2: Who have no loyalty to the program.
Speaker 3: Quote, you give them that check and the guy's going
Speaker 3: to are to hell with that.
Speaker 2: That ain't happening to me. No allegiance, no money.
Speaker 3: And then I mean even recently Troy Aikman, you know,
Speaker 3: because he was you know, you see ale a grad
Speaker 3: and he said, I'm I'm done with it. And I
Speaker 3: always I said, I gave money to a person or
Speaker 3: person's and not so much as a call or or
Speaker 3: a lunch or anything. And he said something done.
Speaker 1: See, I aren't you really murky legal waters though? With
Speaker 1: this stuff. That's what I always. I don't know how
Speaker 1: that stuff works. No, can y you can't obligate the
Speaker 1: kid to stay or it's not like signing up for
Speaker 1: the army or something. Hey you're going to be here
Speaker 1: two years and like it.
Speaker 3: No, you can't cook because as of right now, there
Speaker 3: is no binding language that keeps you there. So yeah,
Speaker 3: so you know, I think people are on were like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: come here part. Look, nobody loves that player likely doesn't
Speaker 3: love the university as much as you do. He's like
Speaker 3: he checked me, likes the opportunity that he may have to,
Speaker 3: you know, to play football and all that, but he's
Speaker 3: probably not invested full on the in the in the university,
Speaker 3: or he'd be at the first place he started at.
Speaker 1: Well that's the look it. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: know you well enough to note that's the reason you
Speaker 1: went to Notre Dame. I mean you were as a kid.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Notre Dame. Man, that's that was the
Speaker 1: castle on the hill. Yeah, there were other offers, but
Speaker 1: going there was a dream as a kid. Correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Yes, And because of that, I wanted
Speaker 1: to win for the bloom goal. That's what I'm saying
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if that as many.
Speaker 3: Kids are moved by that, especially if you're at your
Speaker 3: fourth school, Like, what do you tell your kids? Like,
Speaker 3: I'll be able to tell my kids and I already do, Like,
Speaker 3: hey played a Notre Dame. Was there four years? You
Speaker 3: know this year was great? This year wasn't. If you're
Speaker 3: at your fourth school, right, well, you ca and you know,
Speaker 3: and a lot of discuss. The good thing is there's
Speaker 3: a lot of discussion about people, you know, people saying, look,
Speaker 3: we've got to do something because just because something's working
Speaker 3: well now doesn't mean it's not broken or breaking.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of times things are you know, look
Speaker 3: at look at an economy.
Speaker 2: Boy, things are.
Speaker 3: Great, Well, the machines are in motion here where it's
Speaker 3: not going to be great soon. And that could be
Speaker 3: what's going on with with college football?
Speaker 1: Well would when were we before the break or shooting
Speaker 1: might have been just the other day we talked about
Speaker 1: the kid who it was on like a seventh school
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, TJ. Finley, So in seventh school in seven years?
Speaker 1: That's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you gotta, you gotta, you gotta start there.
Speaker 3: Can we start there and say that that's that can't be?
Speaker 3: And and you know, as Nick Saban and others have said,
Speaker 3: I would allow one transfer as a non graduate and
Speaker 3: if you're a gradual, can maybe you get another one.
Speaker 3: But you know, before you're as a freshman, saw more junior,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't be on your fourth school.
Speaker 1: I just don't agree.
Speaker 2: So I don't think I should be with that.
Speaker 1: We take in with traffic and weather, what is going on.
Speaker 1: I just say I'm glad they fixed college football. I
Speaker 1: want to reiterate that point. You're so happy to have
Speaker 1: a lot of more fishing to do well.
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Speaker 1: of the hour. So rock We've we've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just catching up with some old weird
Speaker 1: news from the UH over the basically the middle of
Speaker 1: last month. We've talked about being trapped in quicksand before.
Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like like, certainly when I was a kid,
Speaker 3: that was like you had to really really get scared
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: You see all of the old movies. If you get
Speaker 1: trapped in quicksand you were done, man, that was it. Well,
Speaker 1: this this guy and this reminds me of you. You
Speaker 1: saw that one hundred and twenty seven hours movie, right,
Speaker 1: didn't we talk about that, the one where James Franko
Speaker 1: gets trapped in the cave. Oh yeah, that thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the one that was based on the true story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, Well this guy was hiking in that's same
Speaker 1: area Arches National Park in Utah. So he's apparently he
Speaker 1: didn't see the movie because he's out there on the
Speaker 1: second day of his personal backpacking trip by him obviously
Speaker 1: on his own hiking in the I mean, the serious wilderness.
Speaker 1: He's walking through the can to a canyon floor when
Speaker 1: suddenly he found himself up to his knee in quicksand
Speaker 1: fortunately brought along an emergency satellite beacon which was picked
Speaker 1: up by emergency responders. The team got a ladder in boards, putting,
Speaker 1: got the lettering, blah blah blah, worked his legs loose.
Speaker 1: By the time they got him out of there, he
Speaker 1: was up to his thighs in it. But you know,
Speaker 1: so he's being interviewed and he said, you know, in quicksand,
Speaker 1: you're extremely buoyant. Most people won't sink past their wist
Speaker 1: in Quicksand. Well, well, where did they come up with
Speaker 1: this in all these movies?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to remain being deathly afraid of this.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, look, I'm not going to try it, so.
Speaker 3: But what happens if he gets sucking my to my waist?
Speaker 3: He didn't say anything about how I get out of that.
Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere apparently, Yeah, I mean can you
Speaker 1: Well you can't or your feet aren't touching obviously touching
Speaker 1: the ground, So how can you walk? Can you swim
Speaker 1: in it?
Speaker 30: Know?
Speaker 2: These are things that keep me up at night, though, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not going to trust the old Tarzan movies that I
Speaker 1: used to watch. Now rock this sounds like something that
Speaker 1: would happen at your house. A guy in Sydney, Australia,
Speaker 1: Andrew McKay is a fella's name. He uh, he checked
Speaker 1: on he was checking on his house to see checking
Speaker 1: on his dog on his pet cam. Right, so when
Speaker 1: he checked his pet cam, he saw his dog, Thunder,
Speaker 1: had somehow opened the sliding glass door to get outside.
Speaker 1: So dogs pretty pretty smart. Well, he must have really
Speaker 1: had to pee or something. I don't know, but so
Speaker 1: you know, so old Thunder opens the door there, and
Speaker 1: so the guy goes, oh, well, he'll come back in.
Speaker 1: You knows, I'll be what he's doing obviously, So he
Speaker 1: comes back a little while later. Well, it seems like
Speaker 1: some of the other animals and his uh on his
Speaker 1: little farm there took advantage. And when he looked at
Speaker 1: it again, a steer named Sue and a horse named Cricket.
Speaker 1: We're walking around in his kitchen.
Speaker 2: So they found out how to get.
Speaker 1: Out to correct. Well, no, the dog was inside, opened
Speaker 1: the door. They walked in, so they're all just in there. Hey,
Speaker 1: this is pretty nice in here. So over the next
Speaker 1: hour and a half, McKay said, they took turns playing inside,
Speaker 1: knocking things off cabinets, and they drink almost all the
Speaker 1: water out of the fish ink.
Speaker 2: Poor fish.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine you're watching this all happen on camera.
Speaker 3: That would walk, That would suck. You never heard of
Speaker 3: a cow get in the house and the horse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you gotta steer in a horse walking around
Speaker 1: in your house. That's a that's a mass make when
Speaker 1: I would call my neighbor, would call somebody, would you
Speaker 1: go to the house and just shoe the animals out.
Speaker 2: And open the door and see if they see if
Speaker 2: they come.
Speaker 1: But like you said, that's a that's the first thing
Speaker 1: I thought of, the poor fish. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Cows and horses won't eat a fish, will they, I guess.
Speaker 29: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But if it's just it's just like gold fish like that,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna go right down. Yeah, maybe we can
Speaker 1: talk to Willie about that. We shall see coming up
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Speaker 12: Demonstrations break out after a woman's killed by an Immigration
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Speaker 12: I'm Matt reeth S breaking now in Minneapolis. Anger follows
Speaker 12: the shooting of a woman by an officer with ICE.
Speaker 12: A mayor, a governor reacting this afternoon video shows an
Speaker 12: SUV with a bullet hole in the windshield, car crashed
Speaker 12: into a light pole, people throwing snowballs at agents and
Speaker 12: as a result, law enforcement deploying pepper spray and tear gas.
Speaker 13: This is a special report from ABC News. I'm Michelle
Speaker 13: Frands and ice operations in Minneapolis ending in an ICE
Speaker 13: officer shooting and killing a woman insider vehicle. Homeland Security
Speaker 13: Secretary Christy Nome called it a case of domestic terrorism,
Speaker 13: claiming the woman used her vehicle as a weapon.
Speaker 23: An officer of ours acted quickly and defensively shot to
Speaker 23: protect himself and the people around him. And my understanding
Speaker 23: is is that she was hit and is deceased.
Speaker 13: President Trump and a social media post says he watched
Speaker 13: a clip of the video and says the agent acted
Speaker 13: in self defense. Minnesota Governor Tim Walls calling for calm
Speaker 13: and says there will be a full investigation of the incident.
Speaker 21: It's beyond me that apparently from the federal government, from
Speaker 21: the Homeland Security Director herself, has already determined who this
Speaker 21: person was, what their motive was, and they hadn't even
Speaker 21: been taken out of the vehicle.
Speaker 13: Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry says he saw the video too,
Speaker 13: and accused federal immigration officials of spinning the circumstances angrily
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Speaker 1: Alright back with Eddian Rocky and here it is Wednesday.
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Speaker 3: And our first one of the year, Wednesdays with Willy
Speaker 3: and Willy when we started the off New year off
Speaker 3: with a very dour feeling about Cincinnati sports. Who's in
Speaker 3: worst shape right now, Wes Miller. And you see Duke Tobin,
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor and the Bengals, the Reds or.
Speaker 2: Deer Park football.
Speaker 18: Well, I'll say this, you know deer Park football. They
Speaker 18: won their first five games, and after that they won
Speaker 18: right in the crapper. You might recall Scott Souderfield at
Speaker 18: one point lost, won like five or six games, then won,
Speaker 18: then lost their last five games. I look at Wes Miller,
Speaker 18: it's not Miller time anymore unless you're drinking tequila. So
Speaker 18: you see right now, Bearcot basketball is completely in the
Speaker 18: dol drums. The knives are out for him. And then
Speaker 18: you got course the Bengals with Duke Tobin and Zach Shula,
Speaker 18: and there's nothing about unhappiness there. But the Reds, I'll
Speaker 18: say this there didn't make it of the playoffs, didn't
Speaker 18: They just lose like three in a row to the Dodgers,
Speaker 18: the greatest team money can buy. So at least with
Speaker 18: the Reds you have a circumstance where they actually went
Speaker 18: to the playoffs. Playoffs. I don't think the Bengals are
Speaker 18: close for a while. I don't think the Bearcats are going.
Speaker 18: You might throw in Richard Patino of the Xavier Musketeers.
Speaker 18: That's not too good either. In fact, they lost at
Speaker 18: home by forty one points to allow the team from Nebraska,
Speaker 18: for God's sakes.
Speaker 10: So everywhere I look.
Speaker 18: I see opportunities, and I think we've hit rock bottom.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing, Willie, I mean, we're That's kind
Speaker 1: of what the angle Rocket I were taking here because
Speaker 1: both college basketball teams still seem to be doing all
Speaker 1: that great. Obviously we're just talking about it. We're still
Speaker 1: what six weeks out from pitchers and catchers, so we
Speaker 1: got a little we're in the winter doldrums here.
Speaker 18: And I asked rock this question a couple hours ago.
Speaker 18: If somebody had said to you, Rocky, who has the
Speaker 18: best college football program in the state of Indiana, you
Speaker 18: would have said Notre Dame or Purdue. But no, it's
Speaker 18: the Hoosiers, the Hoosiers and the College Football pro and
Speaker 18: the Hoosiers. And in fact, as you know that, Scott
Speaker 18: Saderfield and John Cunningham, my brother, had the opportunity Cunningham
Speaker 18: did to hire the head football coach of the Hoosiers
Speaker 18: and failed to do. So what about that, Rocky.
Speaker 3: Well, all I can say, I mean, out of course
Speaker 3: Notre Dame did go the National title game last year
Speaker 3: in Indiana's you had to go to the national title game.
Speaker 3: So we'll kind of put that on hold for a minute.
Speaker 3: But I'm very happy for the success that the Hoosiers
Speaker 3: have had. You talk about a long time coming. If
Speaker 3: you are a long suffering Hoosier fan, you went a
Speaker 3: long long time for this, So good for them, folks.
Speaker 18: And the other thing, by the way, how did Notre
Speaker 18: Dame do in the National Championship game? Remember that score, Rockie?
Speaker 2: I believe it was a you know, I think it
Speaker 2: was two four. I'm not sure.
Speaker 18: I think I think it was forty five to one.
Speaker 18: It wasn't that close to one. Yes, I kicked, And
Speaker 18: so everywhere I look, I see opportunities everywhere I look.
Speaker 1: So Willie, let's uh, let's talk about what's going on.
Speaker 1: Report from the Southern Bureau. What is the very latest
Speaker 1: as far as your double wide in that neck of
Speaker 1: the woods goes. I'm just curious at this point.
Speaker 18: Things are not bad, and I want to thank iHeartMedia
Speaker 18: for establishing a first class broadcast center near Cape Coral
Speaker 18: in a double wide. I'm very happy. I'm good to
Speaker 18: be here. The equipment works about three quarters of the time,
Speaker 18: which is more than it ever I anticipated. It's better
Speaker 18: than there. And remember the first few weeks we had
Speaker 18: the new studios, we couldn't broadcast at all, and we
Speaker 18: couldn't take telephone calls, so that was a problem.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, we're man in the We're man in the
Speaker 1: home forward for you. Well, what what What's what's in
Speaker 1: the news right now? That's got Willy all fired up.
Speaker 1: I'm just let me ask you this, Willie. They're at
Speaker 1: the Southern Compound. Is it like your media center here
Speaker 1: at your house where you have a whole bank of
Speaker 1: TV monitors, you have CB radio shortway from Europe to
Speaker 1: all nine yards? Do you have that operational correct? You
Speaker 1: got it down there, Edie.
Speaker 18: It kind of depends on what station you watch. I'm
Speaker 18: trying to watch MS now so you don't have to.
Speaker 18: And if I watch MS now, brutal thugs wearing masks
Speaker 18: acting like Nazis executed a fine woman who was simply
Speaker 18: exercising your constitutional rights.
Speaker 1: Then I flip over to Fox News and I.
Speaker 18: Find out that the ICE agent was almost killed by
Speaker 18: the same woman in a vehicle who sought to run
Speaker 18: him down, having been ordered out of the car. She
Speaker 18: refused to do it. The ICE agent's life was in jeopardy.
Speaker 18: To save his own life, he shot her twice in
Speaker 18: the head. So in between Nazism and a justified shooting
Speaker 18: is based upon what station you watch. I prefer to
Speaker 18: believe that ICE agents, men and women who have taken
Speaker 18: the oath of office to do what's required to keep
Speaker 18: our community safe, acted correctly with a split sec life
Speaker 18: and death decision. And if that agent made the wrong decision,
Speaker 18: either he would be dead or his fellow ICE officials
Speaker 18: would be dead. On the other hand, if you watch
Speaker 18: MS now or CNN that this was a brutal assault
Speaker 18: by a Nazi type Gestapo agent who killed an innocent
Speaker 18: woman exercising her constitutional rights.
Speaker 10: Can you tell me, Rocky, what is it?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you. I mean telling we
Speaker 2: got to do this.
Speaker 3: If a cop tells you to do something, tells you
Speaker 3: to stop, tells you to quit what you're doing, what
Speaker 3: you're doing, you do it. And until we learn that
Speaker 3: these things will continue to happen. Did you see the
Speaker 3: part where the vehicle the woman it was registered in Missouri,
Speaker 3: So this was not even a Minnesota This is somebody
Speaker 3: that has either been encouraged to come in and enjoining
Speaker 3: these protests or what.
Speaker 2: I find that a little bit odd in trouble.
Speaker 18: Well, when they were actual arrests during this Summer of Love,
Speaker 18: in the summer of twenty twenty, the so called George
Speaker 18: Floyd riots, of course that was the Center of Love,
Speaker 18: eighty seven percent of those arrested did not have Minnesota residency,
Speaker 18: so they were shipped.
Speaker 10: In to do certain things in the Center of Love.
Speaker 18: So this woman from Missouri, I guess that's nothing better
Speaker 18: to do than to go to Minnesota, which is like
Speaker 18: minus five degrees with snow and ice everywhere, to protest
Speaker 18: these vicious Nazi Gestapo's killing and that men, women and children.
Speaker 18: I guess that's what she thinks. And I'm thinking, what
Speaker 18: world does she live in? And on the other hand, Eddie,
Speaker 18: you have ICE officials. Imagine being an ICE official. The
Speaker 18: assaults against you are up seventeen hundred percent. In other words,
Speaker 18: you're being beaten, you're being called rotten names, things are
Speaker 18: being thrown at you and at some point, sadly soon
Speaker 18: an ICE agent, an ICE policeman's going to be killed.
Speaker 18: And at that point, according to Jacob Fry, the mayor
Speaker 18: of Minneapolis, they shouldn't have been there in the first
Speaker 18: place and will celebrate the murder of a police officer.
Speaker 10: And I think that's where we are.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this one certainly isn't going away anytime soon.
Speaker 3: This is all over both TVs. We have gone here.
Speaker 18: So yeah, in fact, tonight, aren't they worried about riots.
Speaker 18: I'm watching the coverage and you have the governor, and
Speaker 18: you have Keith Ellison, the attorney general, and Jacob Fry,
Speaker 18: the mayor, kind of saying that the behavior in the
Speaker 18: streets against law enforcement is justified. And another thing, Eddie,
Speaker 18: where are Minneapolis police the if the MPD get it,
Speaker 18: what a search worn? They've been told don't go there,
Speaker 18: And so nine to one one call was made by
Speaker 18: the Ice agents and none of the local police arrived.
Speaker 18: That they're done, they're gone, they won't go there. And
Speaker 18: this could be the winner of love. We'd have more
Speaker 18: love in the winter time.
Speaker 1: Looting stores, Well, why would they call the police off, though, Willie?
Speaker 18: Because they had a shooting and you have to notify
Speaker 18: local authorities, says shots been fired. Come here, we have
Speaker 18: a large crowd. They're gathering. They're going to do us harm.
Speaker 18: We need help.
Speaker 10: And they did not show up. That'll show up.
Speaker 3: Didn't show up because it's a mess, I guess, so
Speaker 3: a total mess. Yeah, so they know that they don't
Speaker 3: want the same thing to happen to them. You know,
Speaker 3: a bunch of riders show up and keep poking, poking,
Speaker 3: poke and poke and poking on these folks, and at
Speaker 3: some point you get pissed off and something tragic happens.
Speaker 3: That they don't want to put themselves in a situation,
Speaker 3: which is the same situation that happens in cities all
Speaker 3: across America with cops saying, you know, I want to
Speaker 3: do my job, but I'd rather just go home at
Speaker 3: night and see my kids and my family and not
Speaker 3: be you know, on the news.
Speaker 2: So here we are.
Speaker 18: You've become very passive. In other words, you don't get
Speaker 18: out of your car. You might, you might return nine
Speaker 18: to one one calls. You're not going to be proactive
Speaker 18: going into the streets seeking individuals with warrens. You're going
Speaker 18: to be recessive and passive, don't do much. I'm looking
Speaker 18: at the weather right now in Minneapolis is thirty six
Speaker 18: degrees in sunny, but in a couple of days it's
Speaker 18: going to be seventeen fourteen to ten. That means the
Speaker 18: riders have to put on muffins, got to put some
Speaker 18: hats on. When you loot some gym store, or you
Speaker 18: go against Apple and whatever, you're going to have to
Speaker 18: dress up a little bit.
Speaker 1: So Willie, let's go local here for a second. In
Speaker 1: regard to this very thing. The mayor's talking about increasing
Speaker 1: the the sale it's not the sales tax, it's the
Speaker 1: income tax. Downtown in and honor republic safety and and
Speaker 1: some other programs that benefit the poor to keep them
Speaker 1: out of trouble. Your thoughts about that is the factor matter.
Speaker 18: When he was running for reelection, did he mention an
Speaker 18: income tax increase?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 18: And secondly, they found eight point two million dollars to
Speaker 18: pay criminal protesters money. They're about to give Fiji about
Speaker 18: a million bucks. They're going to have chief fire Chief
Speaker 18: Washington about a million bucks. They can find lots of
Speaker 18: money for lots of silly stuff, but when it comes
Speaker 18: to law enforcement, hell, they can't put cameras outside playgrounds
Speaker 18: in the West End to maybe save the life of
Speaker 18: an eleven year old girl.
Speaker 10: They don't have money for that stuff.
Speaker 18: And I understand that Seth Walsh, a good friend of
Speaker 18: Scott Sloan, is going to run for state treasurer. He's
Speaker 18: done such a great job in Cincinnati. Looking at the money,
Speaker 18: he wants to get control of the state treasury.
Speaker 10: How about that one.
Speaker 3: Now, I would contest Willie that if there was a
Speaker 3: serious you know, either ballot in his or a call
Speaker 3: by the mayor, we got to raise taxes because we
Speaker 3: need to make our streets safer. And here's what we're
Speaker 3: going to do. We're gonna hire this many more cops.
Speaker 3: We're gonna employ this much more technology. It costs this.
Speaker 3: I think people would would be for it, but they
Speaker 3: know damn well that this has little to nothing to
Speaker 3: do with actually putting police officers and stopping crime. It
Speaker 3: has to do with all these these high flutine you know,
Speaker 3: community projects, sort of sort of commissions where there's there's
Speaker 3: a head and then there's another head of it, and
Speaker 3: there's another manager and there's another manager and nothing actually happens.
Speaker 10: How about Irish Rowley making a half million dollars.
Speaker 3: I want that job. I want that job. How do
Speaker 3: you get that? Either that or I want to be
Speaker 3: a Minnesota daycare operator. Well that's what I want to.
Speaker 29: Be in here.
Speaker 10: And I don't blame Irish Roley.
Speaker 18: If somebody offers you a half million dollars, you're probably
Speaker 18: going to take it to do a job. But you
Speaker 18: have you have, you have the queen eleven years old,
Speaker 18: and they promised two years ago to have cam and
Speaker 18: recording equipments in that playground and in the West End,
Speaker 18: and they failed to do it. So they've wasted the
Speaker 18: money we've given him. So now city council wants more
Speaker 18: money to waste more money on a bunch of bs.
Speaker 18: And instead of just the eight million dollars to the protesters,
Speaker 18: would hire eighty police officers, eighty more. But they spend
Speaker 18: the money with Alfonsko Hartstein, who's by the way, a
Speaker 18: fine civil rights attorney. Instead of spending money on law enforcement,
Speaker 18: they spend money on a bunch of crap and bs.
Speaker 18: And maybe the mayor has another car payment to make
Speaker 18: it he wants to get some extra money there. He's
Speaker 18: going to have the car, his third car repossessed, and
Speaker 18: so I'm looking at this group and I'm thinking, do
Speaker 18: we trust them with more money?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Well, wellie, see you're supposed to be working on your
Speaker 1: ten No, I'm working. I'm all fired of I know.
Speaker 1: That's say you're you're a yeah, you're all po And
Speaker 1: now that the judge is going to be mad at us,
Speaker 1: and I hate it when that hap.
Speaker 18: Well, I'm on vacation and I work. I work on
Speaker 18: vacation because I love what I'm doing. I'm glad. I
Speaker 18: want to be on more, not less, because American people
Speaker 18: need leadership, and damn it, I'm here to provide it.
Speaker 18: And by the way, how about just add pepper. Just
Speaker 18: add pepper, add pepper.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to the putting green. We'll see
Speaker 1: you later.
Speaker 10: God bless America.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 1: Well, there he goes.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Just add pepper that trick. Yeah, we got you, Willie
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Speaker 2: We're definitely going to be late to the concert. I
Speaker 2: feel like we should be there by now.
Speaker 1: I'm just taking it all right back with Eddie and
Speaker 1: Rocky just a little while longer. That Stove League in
Speaker 1: effect for tonight. They're big guy. But right now, let's
Speaker 1: talk about the latest and the Nick Reiner case as
Speaker 1: this thing progresses with our good friend Royal Oaks, ABC News,
Speaker 1: the legal Analyst. So, Royal, what are we What is
Speaker 1: the very latest other than the fact that this kid's
Speaker 1: attorney has jumped ship.
Speaker 5: Very bizarre twist. I mean, Alan Jackson rode into town
Speaker 5: weeks ago and confidently announced right he's on the job.
Speaker 5: But something happened and there are two possibilities that people
Speaker 5: are speculating about Number one money perhaps he thought Jackson
Speaker 5: thought that he could cut a deal and make sure
Speaker 5: that he would be compensated fairly, and now that ain't happening.
Speaker 5: Or Number two big time disagreement between Jackson on the
Speaker 5: one hand and somebody either in the crime or family
Speaker 5: members who maybe kind of running the show behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: As to mental health issues, should he plead insanity or not?
Speaker 5: Should the defense ask for a competency hearing where the
Speaker 5: judge could conclude, Hey, he's so gone, we can't even
Speaker 5: have a trial, so he's just going to stay in
Speaker 5: the hospital until he has a trial. Or the third option, Okay,
Speaker 5: we're going to go forward. But is han't a murder case.
Speaker 5: It's manslaughter because of schizophrenia or medication or whatever. All
Speaker 5: of these are question marks. We don't really have answers
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 3: So as of right now, then, Royal, I guess the
Speaker 3: Nick Reiner kid has a just a public defender?
Speaker 5: Is that it exactly a public defender who is very
Speaker 5: highly thought of. I'm sure that the system to the
Speaker 5: public Defender's office and the LA Superior Court made sure
Speaker 5: with somebody very capable. It doesn't automatically mean that Reiner
Speaker 5: can't afford a private lawyer. It could be that there
Speaker 5: was just a breakdown with private counsel and it feels
Speaker 5: like this thing has to go forward. But bottom line
Speaker 5: is that we are going to be looking between now
Speaker 5: and February. Some date in February, there's going to be
Speaker 5: another hearing an arraignment, and between now and then we
Speaker 5: may get a tip off from the new public defenders
Speaker 5: to where the defense is going to go in terms
Speaker 5: of a metal state defense.
Speaker 1: So let's break down those options. Royal, is this kid
Speaker 1: no matter what the vert well, we know what the
Speaker 1: verdict's going to be. Is he going to spend the
Speaker 1: rest of his life either in some kind of facility
Speaker 1: or in prison. Or is there a chance that this
Speaker 1: guy could see the line of day sometime.
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's the path for seeing the light of day.
Speaker 5: The DA wants murder, maybe even the death penalty, pretty
Speaker 5: unlikely in the case where you've got a possible schizophrenia
Speaker 5: diagnosis and medication issues and so on, but that's what
Speaker 5: the DA wants, and that's possible. Another possibility is that
Speaker 5: he is found guilty but of manslaughter. Now in California,
Speaker 5: you're guilty of manslaughter and it could be six, ten, eleven,
Speaker 5: twelve years depending on how many victims and the exact
Speaker 5: nature of the charges. So the bottom line there is
Speaker 5: he could actually be found guilty of manslaughter and out
Speaker 5: in a not two large number of years and get
Speaker 5: treatment while in the custody, get treatment out of custody.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he could see the light of day down
Speaker 5: the road.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: So what is the betting favorite right now, Royal that
Speaker 3: he's going to have some kind of insanity.
Speaker 2: Plea that he's going to enter. It was drugs, It
Speaker 2: was that sort of thing or what.
Speaker 5: Yeah, probably insanity is a long shot because it's a
Speaker 5: high bar in California like most other jurisdictions. The test
Speaker 5: is did he know right from wrong? We're gonna have
Speaker 5: all these aimlisters from the Conan O'Brien holiday party on
Speaker 5: that Saturday night and they're going to testify. Well, yeah,
Speaker 5: we saw Nick and he seemed weird and he was
Speaker 5: angry and he had a dust up with Bill Hayter
Speaker 5: from Saturday Night Live. He had an angry confrontation with
Speaker 5: his dad. But he didn't seem out of his It
Speaker 5: didn't seem like he thought everybody was a rhinoceros instead
Speaker 5: of a human. There's no reason to believe he didn't
Speaker 5: know right from wrong, And insanity is a long shot.
Speaker 5: But if you have been diagnosed with schizophrenia, which could
Speaker 5: create a situation where you have no touch with reality
Speaker 5: and he's on and he's off his meds, that is
Speaker 5: the more likely way to go. The other option I
Speaker 5: had mentioned is the competency hearing. If he is so
Speaker 5: far gone today, it's irrelevant what happened the day of
Speaker 5: the murders today. If he's so far gone that he
Speaker 5: can't help his lawyers, there's no trial because the court
Speaker 5: system will not force somebody to go to trial if
Speaker 5: he's bonkers and the lawyers are sitting there doing their best,
Speaker 5: but they can't consult with him. So those are the
Speaker 5: multiple mental health options.
Speaker 1: Royal Oaks from ABC is with this. So Royal, I
Speaker 1: did not realize. I assume that that level, whatever that
Speaker 1: deciding factor is, changes from a jurisdiction to a jurisdiction.
Speaker 1: But I did not realize you had to be like
Speaker 1: literally having hallucinations be considered legit insane when it was
Speaker 1: perfectly obviously everybody like you said at that party that
Speaker 1: there was something wrong with the kid.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when you deal with hallucinations and lack of
Speaker 5: touch with reality. That can come and go when you
Speaker 5: are schizophrenic, and it kind of depends on whether you're
Speaker 5: on your meds or not. You know, we hear these
Speaker 5: horrible stories about people who are kind of okay even
Speaker 5: though they've been diagnosed with schizophrena because they're on their meds,
Speaker 5: but they don't like the side effects off the meds,
Speaker 5: and boom, now they think it's a rhinoceros. Again, that's
Speaker 5: different from insan sanity. You know, there are different aspects
Speaker 5: to it, but it boils down to you didn't know
Speaker 5: right from want. So you knew it was your dad there.
Speaker 5: You knew you're killing a human being, but in your mind,
Speaker 5: you literally did not know that that was the wrong
Speaker 5: thing to do. That's how far gone you were. Those
Speaker 5: are the options for his lawyers to think about.
Speaker 1: All right with that, Royal Oaks, we appreciate it. I'm
Speaker 1: sure we're going to be talking about this for a while.
Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, you bet.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Thanks Royal.
Speaker 1: All right, Royal, thanks brought getting other news.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I don't know if you saw this, but
Speaker 3: I guess Peacock, which is one of the newer networks
Speaker 3: that is, yeah, you know, has some some big football
Speaker 3: games and what not on It's gonna be the first
Speaker 3: streamer they've announced to integrate new Dolby products that will
Speaker 3: quote enhance the sites and sounds of the game of
Speaker 3: their sports broadcast. Okay quote our live streams on Peacock
Speaker 3: are already in HDR, and we introduced Dolby ATMOS as
Speaker 3: well last year. Blah blah blah blah blah, great sound,
Speaker 3: great picture. And then and then it starts to dive
Speaker 3: into a new feature that many sports fans may like.
Speaker 3: When the AC four launches, fans will be able to
Speaker 3: personalize how they want to listen to games, including the
Speaker 3: option to turn off commentary and listen to crowd noise.
Speaker 3: So if you're watching a game and say, Tony Romo
Speaker 3: is calling it, you can bank with a button and
Speaker 3: get him to stop talking and just listen to the play.
Speaker 2: Why I play guy or the crowd?
Speaker 1: Do you remember they did that? There was one game
Speaker 1: that they did then in an NFL game, And I
Speaker 1: don't know how long ago was, it's certainly in the
Speaker 1: last fifteen years. Say, but yeah, they put a game
Speaker 1: on on Sunday and all they did was have crowd noise.
Speaker 2: I know ESPN does that.
Speaker 3: They have their like Mega cast, Like for the college
Speaker 3: football National Championship game, they'll have like four different broadcasts
Speaker 3: of it and ones you know, the Mega cast and
Speaker 3: the coaches, you know, they're all kind of commentating on it.
Speaker 3: But I've not seen where you can turn it off.
Speaker 1: Well, see, I I don't. I'm I'm one of the
Speaker 1: few people apparently in the world where you an announcer
Speaker 1: has to be pretty damn bad for me to to
Speaker 1: let that track from what I'm watching. You know, I
Speaker 1: can turn him down low, but I don't sit. You know,
Speaker 1: some people people are hating on college where they hate
Speaker 1: on Romo. Those two seem to be the biggest those
Speaker 1: are the two biggest targets.
Speaker 2: Now, is there any any announcer that you like?
Speaker 1: I can't think of anybody. People back in the day
Speaker 1: people hated Howard Cosell. I always thought Cosell was just
Speaker 1: kind of funny.
Speaker 2: He's like one of the most famous right correct casters ever.
Speaker 1: But towards the end he was getting a little yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: a little yes yeah. But that's when you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're calling games and you're and apparently he drank a lot. Honestly,
Speaker 1: God he Cozell was notoriously on the drunk one like
Speaker 1: Monday night football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a couple that I don't like. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say they were for my company.
Speaker 3: Nevertheless, people don't like Collinsworth, and I never really understood
Speaker 3: the hatred toward him.
Speaker 1: That's that's what gets me. I mean, I'm not because
Speaker 1: I'm not being because he's a hometown boy or whatever,
Speaker 1: but I think a good job I do too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but man, social goes nuts on Sunday night football games
Speaker 1: when he's on.
Speaker 3: But that just shows you there's no one out there
Speaker 3: that makes everybody happy. And there's people out there that
Speaker 3: hate chocolate ice cream.
Speaker 2: So what can you do?
Speaker 1: You know, right, Well, look, not everybody can be Eddie
Speaker 1: and Rocky.
Speaker 2: Let's face it, correct, that's our curse.
Speaker 1: Rocking. In other news, the only reason I bring this
Speaker 1: up is because this kind of holds a special place
Speaker 1: in my heart. This happened last month in Wisconsin. Officers
Speaker 1: stopped a speeding car. The Sheriff's office said the car
Speaker 1: was missing a front headlight as well on the driver's side,
Speaker 1: So you know, no problem there, right, Just hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get you for going sixty five and a fifty
Speaker 1: or whatever, fair enough, and get your headlight fixed. Other
Speaker 1: problem was the guy had put a handheld flashlight where
Speaker 1: the headlight should have been.
Speaker 2: Continueing. I got a story somewhat.
Speaker 1: Related to me too. A flashlight is not illegal or
Speaker 1: safe for placement for proper headlights. My my idiot brother
Speaker 1: back this years and years ago. He couldn't have been
Speaker 1: he was late teens probably, but he had a motorcycle
Speaker 1: and he went I think he went to see his
Speaker 1: girlfriend and his headlight went out when he was on
Speaker 1: his way home. And she didn't live all that far away,
Speaker 1: but she lived out in the country, so he had
Speaker 1: just so happened to have a flashlight with him. So
Speaker 1: he stuck the flashlight on the handlebars, and of course
Speaker 1: passed a cop and hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 3: My mind was I had I was hauling a car,
Speaker 3: was that I guess it was from Nashville home to Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: and the trailer didn't have any lights on it. So
Speaker 3: I went and bought a flashlight and taped it on
Speaker 3: the back of the back of the trail. Yeah, just
Speaker 3: I didn't get pulled it over, so I think I
Speaker 3: got lucky.
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, see that's I uh, I don't know what
Speaker 1: what you do in a situation like that, though.
Speaker 2: You gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: You gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. But like I said, my brother he
Speaker 1: had to go to court in the whole nine yards
Speaker 1: and uh, and there there was also a maybe he
Speaker 1: tried to flee a little bit and realized I tried
Speaker 1: to flee a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way, he started to and then
Speaker 1: realized this ain't a good idea.
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, better to realize that sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: Well, you're on a country road without a headlight with
Speaker 1: a cop chasing you.
Speaker 2: Not gonna work out.
Speaker 29: Well.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something that that story hardly ever wins.
Speaker 1: That that never ends well at all. But he you
Speaker 1: end up like a green flash or whatever that thing
Speaker 1: is called an Oxford that you'll.
Speaker 2: The Oxford light.
Speaker 1: And how dare you claim you saw when you were
Speaker 1: doing it?
Speaker 2: Was real to me? Damn it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I Bit, I've heard so much about it.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably real.
Speaker 32: Uh.
Speaker 1: With that in mind, we check in with traffic and weather,
Speaker 1: what's going on.