1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot? 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to We got lots going on this morning in 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: scotslone show on seven hundred w welw. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you. 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: The government's reopened and we've got Epstein files to talk about. 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: In just so much more, a little closer to home, 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Cincinnati proposing a stricter nine to five curfew for miners 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: under eighteen on short Fine. We're talking about this yesterday 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: with other council members, so short Finding, you see, and 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a think between Daniel Street and Corey 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: and it moved out of committee and now Consul's a 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: whole vote for this thing. And so the idea is 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: we have crime that since they've been cracking down on 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Fountain Square in downtown and OTR that we're seeing juveniles 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: in particular move towards short Vine. And of course we 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: had a fifteen year old charge with murder in April. 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: Remember the shooting outside of the liquor store Halloween weekend. 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: There was gunfly fire. A bunch of tons of UC 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: students out there in costume enjoying the fun of Halloween 20 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: weekend that was upset by gunfire. Fortunately, no one was 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: struck there and so we're going to try another curfew 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: here of many curfews. She is counselmber re elect. Mika 23 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: Owhen's joining the show this morning on seven hundred WW Mika, 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: welcome back and congratulations. 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: By the way, thank you, Scott. 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 4: I am very happy to do that your listeners and 27 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: the voters of this city and trusting me to get 28 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 4: back to work in the city Hall. There's so much 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: for us to do. Safety is at the top of 30 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: the list, uh, you know, and no one moves to 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: a city where they don't feel safe until it's important 32 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 4: that we make sure that every single neighborhood feels that way. 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 4: So building more housing, transportations, so many things for us 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: to accomplish. 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: Were you surprised do you finish third? 36 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 5: Overall? 37 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 4: You know, I never take anything for granted. You know, 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: you run a race, and you run at this it's 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: your first time running, and so I am just grateful 40 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: that again, folks, you know, decided that the work that 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: I've been doing is valuable to moving this city forward. 42 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, you know, it's 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: like the placement is great, but for voters to say yes, 44 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: I want you to represent me, represents the city at large. 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: That is a huge responsibility, and so it's really about 46 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 4: getting back and doing their work. 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: Good, good, good. 48 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: I want to name recognition obviously, but finishing third and 49 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: ahead of another bunch of other prominent Democrats is pretty 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 2: big final point on the election because this is obviously 51 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: concerning as well. We know that the Charter Rights three 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: is a Democratic sweep on council. Democrats had a great 53 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: night like yourself on Tuesday election night, but relative to 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: the Charter Rights who made a lot of noise, and 55 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: I think they made some really strong arguments about getting 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: serious about public safety. And even though they didn't place 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: and it was a sweep, do you still listen to 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: that and go, well, you know what, there's a lot 59 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: of animosity here and we've handled things poorly relative to 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: crime here in Cincinnati. 61 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: Do you get a message from the voters on that, 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: you know? 63 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: I would say the voters have entrusted and have looked 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: to the city's budget to understand that we are investing 65 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: in public safety and it's a continual investment, and so 66 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 4: I think voters see that we are taking that seriously 67 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: and crime. Getting a handle on crime takes a lot 68 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: of components, one of which your CPD you know, environment improves, 69 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: improved communities, investments in communities, young people having opportunities. These 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 4: are all factors. But certainly the way that we respond 71 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: and give the resources to CPD uh and the laws 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: and policies that we would create around that are also 73 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 4: very very important. 74 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's the outlart too, is we have 75 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: to wait for all these police recruits and classes to 76 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: come to fruition before we see the fruits of that. 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: So it's going to be a while before all this happens, 78 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: and we're still going to have, sadly some crime going on. 79 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: I mentioned what's going in and around you. 80 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Ce Mika Owens, one of the people who were interviewed 81 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: out there, said, hey, listen, now we put a curfew 82 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: up here, the crowd comes up, Well, they'll just move 83 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 2: somewhere else. Are we just playing like whack a mole 84 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: with this problem? 85 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: You know, I don't think we're playing black them all. 86 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: I think we're being very responsive. And certainly, again, you know, 87 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: you apply the resources where you see there might be problems, 88 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: and at the end of the day, and it's so 89 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: important that our young people feel safe. Those that are 90 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 4: you know, going to uce to to further their education. 91 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: No one should live in an environment where gunshots become 92 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 4: the norm, and so it's it's all hands on deck. 93 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: You know, we're knowing that that folks are stilling done 94 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: out of vehicles, and so it's important that people keep 95 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 4: their firearms stored properly in the city of Cincinnati, including 96 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: in your home in the car. So it's you know, 97 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: it's something that we're not taking our foot off the deack. 98 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: Well not only that, I mean, let's talk about this 99 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: from a consumer spurtsvactive here. We know the trouble that 100 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: colleges are going through. The bubble feels like it is 101 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: deflating and sometimes rapidly the value of a college degree 102 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: for what you pay for worse as you get that's 103 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 2: a can But as we have fewer students and schools, 104 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: some schools going out of business, let's put it that way. 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: We're seeing that across the country, if not in Ohio. 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: Now we all of a sudden, you know, we have 107 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: schools that are vying, going to be vying shortly for 108 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: kids to come there. If crime is a huge factor 109 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: in and around universus Cincinnati, does that hurt enrollment. Is 110 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: that a concern of the administration you see be the city. 111 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not talked directly to see it administration, but 112 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: certainly if you know any time that again, people perception 113 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: of safety is not one that is positive. And certainly 114 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 4: people will make decisions on where they go, where they 115 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: invest their money, where they send their young people to school, 116 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 4: and so absolutely from not only a community perspective, but 117 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: from a talent perspective as well. And so when we 118 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 4: as not only a state but a city, are competing 119 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: with other places, it's important that you know, young people 120 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 4: feel like they can come to Cincinnati, get an education, 121 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 4: and ultimately stay here as well. 122 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mika Owens. 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: With the problems you have with this, of course, is 124 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: that this is going to crack down on teenagers, those 125 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: under eighteen and short vindor you see from nine to 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: five it's gonna be nine to five curfew. Other In fact, 127 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: we have all these staggered curf kind of like parking. 128 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: You know, the different parking zones across the city. I 129 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: can figure that with an app but in one area, 130 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: I can be eighteen and it's eleven o'clock here, it's 131 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: nine o'clock here, it's a that can be kind of 132 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: confusing relative to enforcement. But the more important element is 133 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: the fact that you're now restricting eighteen year olds around 134 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other eighteen year olds are going 135 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: to be there, the bulk of those go to UC 136 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: or any college for that matter, and the eighteen to 137 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: twenty year old range. How do you discern the people 138 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: who should be there versus the ones that should no? 139 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: Or does this simply stop people from going out after 140 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: nine o'clock in a college campus and generally going to school? 141 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: Myself, I remember the days, you know. 142 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: You'd stay up till three, four, five o'clock in the 143 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: morning sometimes because the way your body clock works. How 144 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: is that going to work with these students that are 145 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: out spending money and joining their lives versus those who 146 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: shouldn't be there. 147 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, I think this is going to be something 148 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: that CPD and you see are going to have to 149 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: work out through our shirt MoU. But ultimately, again, it's 150 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: about making this environment safe, which, by the way, I'm 151 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: sure you're aware that you know, Chief Isaac, the chief 152 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 4: of UC suggested that this was a good step forward 153 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: as well, and so you know, we're taking in all 154 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: of the information and data, and you know, the city 155 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: the administration is not making just decisions and silos. But 156 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: you know, listening to CPD is important in this as well. 157 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: But ultimately, you know this is going to take business owners. 158 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: You see CPD young people communication to make sure that 159 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: people are safe, but also making sure that there are 160 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: no unintended consequences. And you know, as it relates to 161 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: business owners, I too, you know I went to Miami 162 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: and so uptown, yes was that place that you you 163 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: went on on the weekends and patronized businesses And so 164 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: ultimately we want to make sure that our businesses are 165 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: not suffering. And so this will again be the continued 166 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: part of the conversation. And I certainly am invested in 167 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: working with the administration on these things, including our food 168 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: trucks right, making sure that food trucks even looking at 169 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: you know, where they might be able to be so 170 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: that they can continue to gain business and people, you know, 171 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: will patronize our small businesses. 172 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: Do you agree with the eleven o'clock food truck band? 173 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: Again, I think it was a response to what the 174 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: administration and TGD saw with the fight that happened. You know, 175 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 4: people congregating at three o'clock in the morning around food 176 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 4: trucks is not the best idea, and so I think 177 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: having something that is more consistent, something that also helps 178 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: to create more of an economic, you know, development opportunity. 179 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: When we think about food trucks that want are certified, 180 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 4: you have the health certification, you're doing all the right things, 181 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: you have a place to do business, and the city 182 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: is creating a foundation for that. I think these are 183 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: all things that are part of the tools and so 184 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: again I think what's important is that we're not doing 185 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 4: these things blanketly, but also making sure that we are 186 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: coming back and reviewing what are any unintended consequences and 187 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 4: how might we create solutions around that. 188 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: I'll be honest with the MECO. 189 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: And it feels punitive to me as a business owner 190 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: in that, you know, I'm out there selling a product 191 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: to people I don't know their background. I had a 192 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: new background checks when somebody buys a hot dog, nor 193 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: should you. And then because of some few bad actors, 194 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: I have to shut down eleven o'clock when I could 195 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: be making pretty good money. And let's face it, I 196 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: don't know what the options are. Clifton at midnight or 197 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: one o'clock or two o'clock in the morning when the 198 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: bar's closed. But I know, as you went to Miami, 199 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of windows, says, food trucks up there now, 200 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: robots and everything else. And so you know, you can 201 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: get food on the campus of Miami. That's a little 202 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: different that you see. But the point is there's a 203 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: market there for that, and someone created a business and 204 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: models satisfy that. It's kind of like going, hey, you 205 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: know what, we had a problem with people stealing cars, 206 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: are driving the recklessly on the street to downtown Cincinnati, 207 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: which we see all the time now with the sheriff 208 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: or the State Highway Patrol helicopters. 209 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: You know what we're gonna do. We're having a curfew now. 210 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: You can't drive on the streets after eleven o'clock because 211 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: some people are driving too fast. 212 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: Isn't it the same thing? 213 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I certainly hear that from members 214 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: of the community, and so I think our best response 215 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: right now is to one create an environment that build states, 216 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: you know, create a baseline for even understanding the economic 217 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: impacts to our small businesses, our food trucks specifically, and 218 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: so by way of you know, really creating an environment 219 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: where we know where people are, you know, how to 220 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: get a spot. All of those things help to really 221 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: shape an environment that's probably an improvement and where we 222 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: are now. But again, I am very committed to working 223 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: with the administration to make sure that their solutions rather 224 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: than you know, people thinking they are obstacles or cogencies. 225 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: So it is something that I again I am hearing 226 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 4: and it's something that is a priority for me. 227 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 6: To follow up on. 228 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: Council memory Colt Lock Mika Owens on the show on 229 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLWN talking about the curfew proposal. Downtown Law 230 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: and Public Safety voted on this. It moved out of 231 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: committee to Council as a whole. Now they'll vote equal, 232 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: will vote on this shortly to propose as a nine 233 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: to five curfew on short find. You see, because of 234 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: the problems they had there, we saw some of the 235 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: violent crime move from Fountain Square OTR and downtown to 236 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: Clifton and that's a no go because we saw what 237 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: happened on Halloween. We saw a fatal shooting back in April, 238 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: and it's not good when you have college students around 239 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: and you know, mom and dad foot the bill or 240 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: you're you're taking out a lot of money for college education. 241 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: Public safety at this level should not be concerned, and 242 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: yet it is because of the nature of the urban campus. 243 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 2: And we're talking about that vote coming up here on 244 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: the show on seven hundred WLW. Back to the curfew itself, 245 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: because we had the curfews downtown, o city wide curfew, 246 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 2: the curfew of the banks. We've got this curfew you 247 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: have the same time. We've been doing this since what August, 248 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: So it's a fairly okay sample size, I think, and 249 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 2: now that summer is over. But we have the curfew 250 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: centers where we'll take teams and drop them off, and 251 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: there's only been four teams taken the queue for curfew 252 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: centers downtown. Is that because do you think the terms 253 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: is working or is it simply because it's under enforced. 254 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: I think it's working, and so which is a good thing. 255 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: We certainly don't want to see a curf youth center 256 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: filled with young people, and so I think people are 257 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: being compliant and that is what that is what's important here. 258 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: And so you know again and the curfew center being 259 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: a place that if one has to go there there 260 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: are services and support systems that that will help to 261 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: not only get people to young people to back home, 262 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: but also additional resources that maybe needed. So I think 263 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: we're turning in a good direction right now, and again 264 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: I think that's because of the partners that have helped 265 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 4: to communicate her few boundaries and expectations, and so I 266 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: think we'll have to continue to do that and continue 267 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: to again and monitor what is the success and products 268 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: that we're making here. 269 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: I'll point out, Mika that if you go back to 270 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: one of the two big events, the shooting and the 271 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: gun play over Halloween weekend, but the one in April 272 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: or the fifteen year old charged with murdering I think 273 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: the man name is Kyle Merrick, and a horrific crime 274 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: at that. If you witness the street crime, it's absolutely 275 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: depraved that at the time of day that happened that 276 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been prevented by a curfew. So is this 277 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: a time of day issue or is this more of 278 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: a youth violence issue, And if so, that's greater than 279 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: a curfew. 280 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: I think it's both. It's important to know that young people, 281 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: if they're supposed to be in school, that they are 282 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 4: in school. For one, it's important and that takes you know, 283 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 4: the village. This is that that helps support young people, 284 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: the environment, but there is also a need that within 285 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: the conversation of safe and young people, we've got to 286 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 4: provide more hope and options and opportunity for young people. 287 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: And so again if young people one, they should be 288 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 4: in school, if a s full age, and also what 289 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: kind of skills and training and opportunities and resources and 290 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: outlets do we have for young people, which is why 291 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: you know, coming back into city Hall, this is such 292 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: a priority for me. Uh. You know, one, there are 293 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: lots of games on the streets where young people have 294 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: access to and so that becomes an issue as well. 295 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 4: But it's one that the city has to be in 296 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: partnership with the state, has to be in partnership with 297 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: the federal government to really get a handle on this. 298 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 4: Of course, supporting the constitution absolutely, but young people have 299 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: access to fire arms and is not good for our community. 300 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: It's not good for policing. And this is also part 301 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: of you know, what makes officers safe to do this job. 302 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: So when we think about recruiting people, you know, this 303 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: is a part of that. And so we have to 304 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: make sure that this job that people feel safe doing 305 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: this job. We have to make sure that young people 306 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: are in the right places, and so it's going to 307 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: take again. This is just, you know, a continued conversation, 308 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: and these are actually things that I am looking at 309 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: as well in from the timers. 310 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: Gay gotcha. 311 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: Finally, I live in Warren County and we had the 312 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: other day an incident there where an individual was driving 313 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: was rush hour traffic. 314 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: He passed somebody. They took offense to it. 315 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: The guy comes after him, chases him, he takes off anyway, 316 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: long story, shirt dude pulls out a gun and puts 317 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: I think a round in the back, which car fires 318 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: around at him. And the end result was this individual 319 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: shot was stopped by the State Highway Patrol because somebody 320 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: called it a nine to one one where he went 321 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: to Warren County jail. He's being held on a five 322 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars boud half a million dollar bond for that. 323 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what his history is, but I look 324 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: at that in Warren County and people at Weren't County 325 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: aren't going to say for that nonsense. I look at 326 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: Hamlin County, go these are youthful offenders with guns and 327 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: they're released sometimes in their own recognizance extremely little bond, 328 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: and I think that just encourages more of the same behavior. 329 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: What message can you get to judges to start going, hey, 330 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: you know what, Warren Butler, Claremont County, they don't mess 331 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: around when somebody is involved with a gun crime. And 332 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: if you have a gun at your disability, God help you. 333 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: We should be throwing the book at you. From a 334 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: federal perspective, that's a strong message to these individuals. But 335 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: yet it feels like they're being treated with kid gloves. 336 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: Why and what role do you have as a counsel 337 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: person to make that change if needed? 338 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're pointing out that there is you know, 339 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: this is a three sixty issue, and so that means 340 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: the courts have to respond as well. And I absolutely 341 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 4: agree that someone who is a violent offender been convicted 342 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: of the selonies and should not own a firearm. You know, 343 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: those are reasons tonot have someone back on the street, 344 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: and so I think it's important that that that we 345 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: won are are sentencing in the in the right way 346 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 4: bonds And I'm not an attorney, but whatever the maximum 347 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: should be, then that's what it should be. But also 348 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: what's to make sure we're creating as it relates to juveniles, 349 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: we're creating more of the upstroom opportunity to say one, 350 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: not only okay, you shouldn't be with a you know, 351 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: a llegal firearm on the street, but also let's make 352 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 4: sure we are moving people into more of a productive 353 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 4: place in their lives. And so certainly this takes the 354 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 4: court system to be a part of that. 355 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: All right, how are you going to vote on that? 356 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 4: You know today is we'll see what happens this afternoon. 357 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: But I am certainly someone who is supporting public safety initiatives. 358 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: We're listening to CPD on these things as well. Uh, 359 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 4: And so I want to make sure that we as 360 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: a city are responding in all of the appropriate ways 361 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: that help to keep our community safe, make people feel safe, 362 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: all of us showing that we can walk down M 363 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: Street in the City of Cincinnati and not be alarmed 364 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 4: by gunshots or violent crime. H And so this is us, 365 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 4: you know, again showing up. But also it doesn't stop there. 366 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 4: It is uh, you know, what might we need to 367 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: do to improve going forward? And say those are the 368 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 4: questions that remains Okay, so well if. 369 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: Those questions are answered, you say yes on us? Yeah, okay, 370 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: got it. 371 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: I don't see reasons to not support this. 372 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: Council Member Mika Owens, appreciate the time as always, Answeredship 373 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: and I congratulations again on. 374 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: The big win. 375 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I'm looking forward to getting back 376 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 4: to work for sure. 377 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: All right, let's go, let's go. All right, thanks, take care. 378 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: We got to get a news update in and more 379 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: to follow on this, and of course we'll dive into 380 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: the Epstein file dump just ahead here on the Scott's 381 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 2: Loan Show seven hundred other. 382 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: Scott Flowing seven. 383 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: Hundred WLWI off the show beautiful Thursday. Marnino looks a 384 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: good weekend ahead too. 385 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: For that matter. On the backside, what do we got today? 386 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 6: Is it? 387 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: Today is the death of the American penny. The penny 388 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: that costs about four cents to mint is going to 389 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: be discontinued as of today because that production costs is 390 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: way outside of what it's value was, and plus they're 391 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: just so damn annoying. It's going to remain legal tender 392 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: offecy for a while until they fade out. I don't 393 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: know how long it's gonna take a long time. Wonder 394 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: are luck it's going to take to get rid of 395 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: all the pennies, probably not going to see it in 396 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: our lifetimes. If you're a live right now. I will 397 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: say this though, that the fastest way to get rid 398 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: of the penny is to get it off the market. 399 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: I am a I don't know if you know this, 400 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: but a licensed penny recycler, and if you want to, 401 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: according to the government, you want to get rid of 402 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: these pennies. Eighty forty four Montgomery Road, Cincinnati, Ohio four 403 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: five two three six. If you want unload all your pennies, 404 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm a authorized penny recycler. 405 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: There you go. 406 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: Just I want to think about it. Watch it get 407 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: like a wheelbarrow full of pennies or something like that. 408 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: I get anying for it. I'll just take the pennies, 409 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: make it someone else. It'll probably cost you more to Well, 410 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: you're rolling all those coinstar machines. How you roll that 411 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: into the bank. They look at it and go, we're 412 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: not taking that stuff. But you can't even get rid 413 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: of pennies if you want to unless you're rolling them 414 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: at yourself. So or pay the big at a coinstar machine. 415 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: You know, they had the old days of walking in 416 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: the bank and I got a bunch of pennies, put 417 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: it in your counter. Nope, not gonna do it. 418 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 7: Do't know way. 419 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: You gotta roll it yourself too. It's like I could 420 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: cheat you out of a couple of pennies maybe, and 421 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: and if you then weigh them, you then could just 422 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: weigh the pennies without the little sleeve on. It's just 423 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: a pain in the butt. They're a pain in the butt. 424 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: That's what it is as we move towards more of 425 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: a cashless society. So yesterday it was the Epstein drop. 426 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: We had twenty fous from the Republicans, which felt like 427 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: a classic legal move to kind of obscure what's really 428 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: going on here. Normally, you know, you just dump a 429 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: whole bunch of information on some of lepago. Here, here's 430 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: twenty thousand on top of the three that makes our 431 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: guy look a little more dirty than he is, and 432 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: that would be Donald Trump. It's going to be interesting, 433 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: and I hope it's more interesting than sickening to see 434 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: how this thing goes. Look, the fact the matter is, 435 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: this is an ongoing problem, has been an ongoing problem 436 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: for Trump and the Republicans for a while now. And 437 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: I think what's telling about this is Trump comes out 438 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: and says, look, this is the Republicans who flipped. The 439 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: four of them, including Thomas Massey, were very bad or 440 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: stupid Republicans as he called them. And it's a Democrat 441 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: trap in the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. But remember, you got 442 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: a whole lot of people to support and vote for 443 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: you and campaign for you based on the fact you 444 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: were going to be crystal clear in your transparency when 445 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: it came to Jeffrey Epstein and his misdeeds, his crimes. 446 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: And then because of expedient see if oh there's nothing, 447 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: there's nothing in this report, We're going to release and 448 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: release and then then there's nothing there. Well, you wonder 449 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: why people, even those who supported you, are at the 450 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: very least giving you side eye, at the most turning 451 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: their back on you or voting against you. In this 452 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: case is Laura they brought a look at it this way, 453 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 2: said it's a hoax. But at the same time, yesterday, 454 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: bring Lauren Bobert in from Colorado and they're trying to 455 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: sweat her to try and get her pull her name 456 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: off because you got this Democratic senator from Arizona who's 457 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: getting sworn in, and they didn't want the votes to 458 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: go through, and the end result as it did, because 459 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: Bobert and three others stood up and said, no, I 460 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: want this stuff to come out, and reports are not surfacing. 461 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: He was playing phone tag with some other reps to 462 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: try and get them to flip so they didn't have 463 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: the two hundred and eighteen signatures. And all this over 464 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: a hoax. I mean, if it's a hoax and you 465 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: really really believe that, then what exactly are you afraid 466 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: of people seeing? But I think it's part and parcel 467 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: for what we're talking about here in that I'm pretty 468 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: sure that Trump's named a lot in these things. On 469 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: the other hand, you wonder about prominent Democrats like Bill Clinton. 470 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: How look what happened to Prince Andrew right. I mean, 471 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: they stripped him of his crime. They said, okay, you're 472 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: not you're out. 473 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 5: That. 474 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: And you know how protective and secluded and private the 475 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: royal family is. For them to do that over this 476 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: and for us to go ad nothing to see here, 477 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't look good. And is there a crime that 478 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: I don't know because we don't know everything that's in there. 479 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: I understand there's a context that the Democrats are going 480 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: to drop the stuff that they want to use to 481 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: make Trump look bad. Absolutely, are there some politics behind 482 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: There's a lot of politics behind this. If you look 483 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: at this, is just what a partisan weaponsization is. What's 484 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: going on here. Republicans are accusing Democrats are selectively leaking 485 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: the emails, but they're also withholding records that named Democrats, 486 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: so we think anyway, and Democrats accuse Republicans are covering 487 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: for true up and back and forth. So you know, 488 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: you look at that and I'm about quite honestly, I 489 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: don't really care Republican, Democrat or otherwise. If you were 490 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: accused of, caught up in, or guilty of doing all 491 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: the misdeeds, you should be going to prison, just like 492 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: others have in this particular case. I don't think there's any. 493 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: Debate for that. I don't think there's any room for that. 494 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: I mentioned the time he was impeccable because of Prince Andrew, 495 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: and now you look at us and go, okay, what 496 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: are we doing over here? It's just not negotiable that 497 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: the facts are out there. Did he what level involvement 498 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: did he have is a big question. What did he 499 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: know and when did he know it to coin a phrase. 500 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: I think there's enough cover for him right now, going okay, well, 501 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: you had Maxwell come out and say, now there's really 502 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: nothing going on here. Jeffrey's family's been critical of Trump 503 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: after he said Epstein stole her from mar A Lago, 504 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: And I don't know what that means. Stole her from 505 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: our alago. Is it's stilling her because he knew what 506 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: he was going to do with her, or stole her 507 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 2: because you know, good employees are hard to find, so 508 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: there's wiggle room there. And Trump is really really good 509 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: to get out of legal jams. I don't know if 510 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: you notice that or not. I wouldn't say I give 511 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: him the benefit of the doubt. I just you need 512 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: more proof as to what's going on here, the full 513 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: depth of this whole thing, and you know, releasing little 514 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: pieces here and there to make the other side look 515 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: bad is not justice at all, as we've seen in 516 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: the past. You know, did he have some level of 517 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: Alma's hands in the sure he's involved, He's on planes 518 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: and everything else, So you know what, just release all 519 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: the names, release all the associations instead of milking this 520 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: out for political sake and we'll be done with this. 521 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: And I look at Michael Wolfe. That's the guy who 522 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: wrote Fire and Fear. I believe it was Fire and 523 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: Fury the one and just hanging around with Trump for 524 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: a while. But he said, you know one of the emails, 525 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: I hear Cen on plane and asked Trump tonight about 526 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: this relationship with you either on air and a scrum afterwards. 527 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: And this was to Epstein. 528 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: And six months after Trump had declared he was running 529 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: for the presidency of whatsoe that's back in twenty sixteen. 530 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: It's to be twenty fifteen. 531 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: And Epstein replied to wolf if we were to craft 532 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: an answer for him, what do you think it should be. 533 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: I think you should let him hang himself as a 534 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: wolf road. If he says he hasn't been on the 535 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: plane or the house, that gives you a value of 536 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: pr and political currency. You can hang him a way 537 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: that potentially generates a positive for you. Or if it 538 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: looks like he could win the election, which you did, 539 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: you could save him and that would generate a dat 540 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: And that's the politics of it. That's the you know, 541 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: I'm sad. That's that's pretty damning right there. And I 542 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: think we as a people deserve to see more. But 543 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: we now live in such a hyper partisan world that 544 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: any criticism and saying, hey, you know, we should be 545 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: looking at this somehow doesn't make you mag enough, and 546 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: it's just you're falling for Democratic Democrat lies and like 547 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: and then okay. 548 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: The other side is that we're probably pretty sure. 549 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: That the Clintons or someone else's in the person the 550 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: Democrats are involved in this as well, because you know, 551 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: this whole classism battle that we face, there's an element 552 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: of truth to it in that the people were talking 553 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: about they all swim in the same fish tank. You know, 554 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 2: you think we think it's about hyperpartisan politics. I mean 555 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: that's okay. Inside the Bellway, it's a little bit different, 556 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: especially inside those towers, a lot different when these are 557 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: very very wealthy, well connected people and you do have Democrats, Republicans, agnostics, 558 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: atheists and everyone hanging out with it. You know, last 559 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: time I checked, if you're gonna be a pedophile, it 560 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: does not know any political affiliation. And so if that's 561 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: the case, Republicans have a lot to protect as new Democrats. 562 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: I mean, our Congress can't be bothered to pass a 563 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: balanced budget, can't be vouchered to It's happened twice in 564 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: my lifetime. I know about you seemingly can't do the job, 565 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: but they're really really good about trying to block stuff 566 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: like this, the real truth and stuff from getting out there. 567 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: And that should tell you everything. You know, if you're 568 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: a hyperpartisan, you may want to really, you know, look 569 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: at that. And I'd say, look at the Democrats. You know, 570 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: you're having no kings rallies to rail against Trump and 571 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: the like. But again, it's what you preach is also 572 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: not what you practice. Because we have a kingdom, and 573 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: the kingdom was not started under Donald Trump, but was 574 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: started well in the past. When it comes to executive order, 575 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: and because Congress is beholden to the presidency whomever that is, 576 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: they will allow either executive auto pen whatever it is, 577 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: to do the bidding the presidency, and they feel like 578 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: they don't have to act because they've given that power 579 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: away to the executive branch as opposed to really having 580 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: a balance of power. That's going on, and we saw 581 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: that with what's going on with the debt or the 582 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: vote on the big beautiful bill, or in this case here, 583 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: it's like just we just walk away well, do we 584 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: have Congress for them? The hard things are not willing 585 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: to do, but really really good at making sure that 586 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: the truth doesn't get out there, which makes one think 587 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: there's something there and I think we deserve to see 588 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: all that. Maybe we'll find out next week. We'll see 589 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: at five and three, seven, four, nine, eight hundred the 590 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: Big One talk back iHeartRadio up over to A Dayton 591 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: and Jeff one hundred. 592 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: W W Hey, Jeff, thanks for checking in. 593 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 6: Marty Sony Hey. 594 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: I was in the Air Force and in nineteen seventy 595 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: nine to eighty I was at Coonsan Air Base, Korea, 596 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: and we didn't use painties at all on base. The 597 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: basic change if it was round, you'd round up to 598 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: the nearest nickels. So it really it never mattered. And 599 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it will be a problem. 600 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: I don't think so either. 601 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: I mean people will say, well they'll just round up, 602 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: do they won't because you have competition. You have to 603 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: look at gas, you know, if the if the UDF 604 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 2: on one side and the speedway and the other. If 605 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: it's a if it's a three cent different one cent difference, 606 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: people will go to the one that's cheaper. 607 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, yeah, issue really compared to the others that 608 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,239 Speaker 1: we have now. 609 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't figure if you want to get rid 610 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: of those petties, you know where to send them. Okay, 611 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: all right, there you go, eighty forty four Montcomerer News 612 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: on the way in about eight minutes here on seven 613 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Patrick Collin from CET is here. I love 614 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: the seet guys because they're geeky and wonky and it's 615 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: so what you need to know on better, better battery 616 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: life for your phone. And you know, we this time 617 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: of year especially see how they Kevin Hart's and every 618 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: commercial and if the commercials he's not in shacks and 619 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: would be the other one, and then Matthew McConaughey and 620 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: a select few others. So there's really three guys who 621 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: do all the commercials. And you got all three. But 622 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: now they you know, Kevin Hart, the iPhone ads and 623 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: then we'll see the Antifa. 624 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: We got the Google phones. 625 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: You know all they got all these things on them, 626 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: really really cool features that most of us don't use. Now, 627 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: if you're an influencer, you know there's a phone for you. 628 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: It has multiple cameras and all they need is a 629 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: phone I need texting, I need social media, I need 630 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: the Internet. I need a phone phone, maybe a few apps, 631 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: but primarily I need a battery that lasts a long time, 632 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: like at a perfect world. 633 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: I need a battery that lasts like Hollywood. 634 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: Time you ever notice on a show streaming otherwise, movie 635 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: people always in the they never charge a day. You 636 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: never see them, like We'll go to sleep and then 637 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: the phone ring and will wake up and pick the 638 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: phone up. It's never in a charger now, but to 639 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: hold on, I gotta unplug it. I got to take 640 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: it up the the bag safe older, No, none of that. 641 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: Where's my dad off? 642 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: I'm out of you. 643 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: Unless it's somebody that is about to get killed or 644 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: something like that, then there's a good chance they have 645 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: no cell service or they're down it's blinking or low 646 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: power that one percent the phone goes off like the 647 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: phone has always said, never seemed charge it, and it's 648 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: always on. I would love a phone like that where 649 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: I could literally have an entire season of shows and 650 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm always on the phone and it always has a 651 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: full charge. 652 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: That could be a dream. That is a dream of mine. 653 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: Uh real quick. 654 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: One other thing of note this morning and just kind 655 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: of trivial. At that is just about the time I 656 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: do the trivial kind of stuff on the show. Not 657 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: that the Jeffrey Epstein stuff was that that critical, but 658 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: or that trivial. I guess I should say next time 659 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: I go to the state, and this may happen next week. 660 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: It's not a done deal. But this is another thing 661 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 2: to confuse your wallet. You're ready for tiered pricing at 662 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: checkout based on what credit card you use. Now we 663 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: hear the stories about you know, Kroger changing their tags 664 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: in store, which is more about saving money for them 665 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: because of the cost of seven switch out prices and 666 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: do an electronic and store pricing. People, Oh, they're just 667 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: going to go to this tiered model, right, It's going 668 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: to be surge pricing maybe, but probably not tiered pricing 669 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: at checkout based on what credit card do. So Visa, 670 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: MasterCard and merchants reached the settlement, ending a twenty year 671 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: anti trust battle over they're called interchange fees. So these 672 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: are the chargers that banks collect for merchants for credit 673 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: card transactions. They charge them a percentage and the deal 674 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: is struck. And before this, merchants, for example, if you 675 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: accepted Visa, you had to take all visa credit cards, 676 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what the brand was or what point it was. 677 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: And the new rules would allow them now to pick 678 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: and choose rich category. 679 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: So the categories we're not talking about, you know, is 680 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: it a points card to know different categories are. For example, 681 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: you've got your entry level cards like the Capitol and Quicksilver. 682 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: Then you got the mid market cards which are like 683 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: a Chase Sapphire Preferred. You have your premiums, which are 684 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: like an MX Platinum, or the super premiums, which is 685 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: thousands of dollars a year, would be a black card 686 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: because it's a status item. So those are like the 687 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: different categories of cards that they have. So the way 688 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: the new rule would work is basic cards might have 689 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: lower search chargers than a premium awards card. So if 690 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: you use your AMX instead of that I don't know 691 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: Discover card for example, you may be paying more in 692 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: that too as well. And now some merchant's course charge 693 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: flat fees for this too, but the pricing can be 694 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: more granular, and so the outcome they projected outcome here 695 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: is you'll see more fees as opposed to refusal. Some 696 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: places you can use this card. You can't use that 697 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: when I get that, but buy and large. You'll check 698 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: that statement and go, wait a minute, I just bought 699 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: a coffee and use this card here, and the one 700 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: that I just bought is twenty five cents more. Yeah, 701 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: it's because of which car you use. So just FYI 702 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: if indeed this goes into effect next week, well the news, 703 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: we'll talk about your phone battery life, very important stuff. 704 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: Just ahead, Scott Sloan, home of the best Bengals coverage 705 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: seven hundred WW Since now do. 706 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 8: You want to be an American? 707 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: It's got phone back on seven hundred wlw's all the 708 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 2: bells and whistles like multiple camber lenses and pixels and 709 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: health tracking. It's got a microwave in it, an AI 710 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 2: and what users really care about with the phone. I 711 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: think I may be wrong is battery life. How much 712 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: battery can I get out of this? How when do 713 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: I I gotta charge this again? I'm almost I'm done 714 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: a one bar, I'm one done as it's good to 715 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: oh man, you know phones right? 716 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm not shooting a Hollywood film. 717 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 5: I'm good. 718 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: I'm not Steven Spielberg. All I want to do is 719 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: text somebody can you help me out? Patrick Hollin is 720 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: here from Cnet our friends at seen at He studied 721 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: three years of phone data so you didn't have to. 722 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: And Patrick, of course spend a lot of time here 723 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: in cincyback and they how are you? 724 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 7: Hey, I'm very good. Still trying to find that in 725 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 7: my away by my iPhone, but. 726 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there, I think it's there. It's just buried in 727 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: like one of the I forget what happens, and it's 728 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: somewhere in there. But that's a disturbing parer. We've got 729 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: all these cool features and bugs on the phone. The 730 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: commercial we see a lot now right is, oh my god, 731 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm shooting a Hollywood movie on this great. 732 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: Can I get a battery to last better than like 733 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 3: eight hours? That'd be fantastic. 734 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely. I've been in reviewing phones for almost a 735 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 7: decade now, and the number one and number two things 736 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 7: people want are a lower price and more battery. 737 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: That's that easy, okay, And I know you probably did 738 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 2: did iPhone too, But this this applies is most of 739 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: us upgrade simply because our battery wears out right. It's 740 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 2: not the camera, the processors. I got the latest chip 741 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: on all that stuff. You know, it's basically about my 742 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: battery doesn't charge long enough. Absolutely, you look at your 743 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: battery and there's two things you can do. You you 744 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: can either take it in and pay like thirty to 745 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: fifty dollars to have it swap down and get a 746 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 2: new one in and there'll probably last a couple more years. 747 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: Or what most people do is they buy a new phone. 748 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: And what's great about these new iPhones for the iPhone 749 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: seventeen series is all of them have bigger batteries and 750 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 2: it's no logic there that bigger is better and you 751 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: get more battery life because of it. So you spent 752 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: you looked at three years of data and testing all 753 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 2: this stuff. But what's the most surpriing prising of finding 754 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: for you, Patrick came out of. 755 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 7: Us absolutely the going through set labs. We have decade, 756 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 7: over a decade worth of data, but over the last 757 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 7: three years, specifically for battery testing and charging. It's no 758 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 7: surprise that the iPhone seventeen series has a longer battery 759 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 7: life than the iPhone sixteen series and definitely than the 760 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 7: iPhone fifteen series. In fact, the iPhone seventeen promacs that 761 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 7: you've probably seen like pictures of that orange color. That 762 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 7: one has the biggest battery ever in an iPhone, and 763 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 7: it's no surprise it actually topped all of our battery tests. 764 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 7: It's the highest rated phone you can get and raid 765 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 7: or iPhone at this time. We know there's probably gonna 766 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 7: be some more end phones coming out soon. And the 767 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 7: other thing is there's that really den iPhone, the iPhone 768 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 7: Air you may have heard about, and there was a 769 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 7: lot of worries about the battery life of that because 770 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 7: a very thin phone doesn't have a lot of room 771 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 7: for a battery. But turns out it's battery life is 772 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 7: it gets through a day. I wouldn't want to recommend 773 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 7: it for a power user, but it scored an our 774 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 7: test on on par with the iPhone fifteen from just 775 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 7: a couple of years ago. 776 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 3: Wow. 777 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 7: So looking through on the scene at lab Data really 778 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 7: helps us put just pretty clear in perspective which phones 779 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 7: people should get and spend their money on. 780 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw this metric the seventeen promacs a new one. 781 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: You did a three hour streaming test, so that's you 782 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: know that's gonna eat ups in battery. It just it 783 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 2: lost less than ten percent battery. That's incredible. What are 784 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: they doing differently this year? I mean, it seemed like 785 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 2: we've hit peak battery. I know, back of the day, 786 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: you know you're lucky if you get forty five minutes 787 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: out of a half hour out of a charge. Right, 788 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: But as we progressed here in the lithium batteries and 789 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 2: ion is a new technology that just getting is about 790 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: heat dissipation. 791 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 3: What are they getting out of it to make it less? 792 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 3: How long? 793 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 7: It's a little bit of both. So traditionally the iPhone 794 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 7: has at olythium ion battery. It still does. There are 795 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 7: some exciting Android phones coming out. One of them, the 796 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 7: only one in the US, I believe, is the one 797 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 7: plus thirteen that has a silicon carbon battery. And all 798 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 7: that means is for the same sized battery as the 799 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 7: lithium ion, you get one one and a half times 800 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 7: more capacity to it, so you get much more battery life. 801 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 7: But Apple didn't go that route. Instead, what they did 802 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 7: is they just put a physically larger battery in, but 803 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 7: then they also optimize things. They optimize for video playback 804 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 7: so it has less heat from the processor. In the 805 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 7: Pro models, there's actually a cooling chamber now that goes 806 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 7: over the processor, so it allows it to work a 807 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 7: little harder without causing more heat, and heat therefore makes 808 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 7: things go slower and you have to slow things down. 809 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 7: That doesn't turn off. 810 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, bigger batteries great, But does that it more weight? 811 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 7: It definitely does. So the seventeen Pro and Promacs are 812 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 7: the heaviest iPhones we've tested. While they have an aluminum body, 813 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 7: so that is different from the titanium frames before, but 814 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 7: I think most people probably wouldn't even notice that it's heavier. 815 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 7: I will also say, though, I would recommend if you're 816 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 7: looking at just a regular seventeen Pro, take a look 817 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 7: at the iPhone seventeen. It's battery life is right on 818 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 7: par with it, it costs hundreds less, and for most people, 819 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 7: if you don't need that telephoto camera, it's actually quite 820 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 7: an amazing deal. 821 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 8: Yeah. 822 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a creator, the Promax is great 823 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: and you're shooting those Hollywood movies, I guess, but you know, 824 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 2: if you're a creator three hour streaming, you're going to 825 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: need that. 826 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 3: But for most of us, we're not. 827 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 7: So yeah, and they're still going to be. There's still outliers, right, 828 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 7: you get the creative types you're making the movies and stuff. 829 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 7: But you also have people who are like obsessively online 830 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 7: and they're always on their phone, and there's not going 831 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 7: to ever really be a phone with a battery that's 832 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 7: going to be what they need. And part of it's 833 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 7: a behavior thing. Part of it's just you're using it 834 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 7: so much. But I have to say for most people, yeah, 835 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 7: these new iPhones should do really well. I really am 836 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 7: surprised by the iPhone seventeen from that just how much 837 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 7: of a jump of tad the last two years. So 838 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 7: if you're holding onto an old iPhone, like an iPhone fourteen, 839 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 7: just know you're going to get better battery life. But 840 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 7: if you have an iPhone fifteen, I would challenge you 841 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 7: to think about just having your battery or place. It's 842 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 7: much more affordable. It's going to extend the life of 843 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 7: your phone. And you like the screen and the cameras, 844 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 7: you've got nothing to lose. 845 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: If you're a business user, maybe you'll run your own business. 846 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 2: My wife, for example, is a real estate barker. She's 847 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: on her phone all the time, talking or texting. How 848 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 2: does that three hour streaming test where it loses just 849 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 2: nine percent battery, how does that stack up to just 850 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: using the phone is what causes the battery to cook 851 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 2: more talking on the phone or streaming. 852 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, so the biggest killer for the phone's battery is 853 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 7: going to be your cellular connection. So if you look 854 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 7: at the bars in your phone, if you have full bars, 855 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 7: it means you are in a good place and the 856 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 7: phone's not struggling to reach that antenna. But it's like 857 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 7: missing a bar too. That's going to be that your 858 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 7: phone's going to really be pushing to grab that five 859 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 7: G data and stuff like that. The other thing is display. 860 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 7: These displays get so bright and the new phones have 861 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 7: even brighter displays, and there's some efficiency in the materials 862 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 7: they're using, but it's still going to draw a lot 863 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 7: of power for that. So the other thing we do 864 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 7: is in Sceneate Labs, we not only have the three 865 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 7: hour video streaming test, we have a forty five anecdotal 866 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 7: test where where we just put it under stress for 867 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 7: forty five minutes and what we're doing is we're doing 868 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 7: as we're playing video games or streaming, scrolling social news 869 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 7: feeds and things like that to really reflect what my 870 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 7: people might be using it on. And again, the iPhones 871 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 7: perform very well in that test. And our ultimate test 872 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 7: is we actually use these phones as our daily driver 873 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 7: while we're testing them, and so we know that if 874 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 7: we start the day at six am with a full battery, 875 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 7: something like the Promax is ending the day at thirty 876 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 7: thirty three thirty five percent. Wow. 877 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 2: Great, I think that's incredible. Patrick Collin from c NEET 878 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 2: and they're the guys that look at the equipment, all 879 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 2: the cool tech that we buy and break it down 880 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: tell you what the value is. He study three years 881 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: of phone data find out which all we care about 882 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: really outside of you know, all these big cameras and 883 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 2: bells and whistles is battery life, and which phones get 884 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 2: the best battery life? I iPhone seventeen Promacs and the 885 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 2: I seventeen the best. Right now, it's like a three 886 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 2: hour streaming test lost nine percent of battery. Obviously it's 887 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 2: going to consume more if you're using cellular and the like. 888 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: So in bigger batteries don't does mean bigger life? 889 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 6: Is that true? 890 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 3: That's true? 891 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 7: I mean we look at Android phones, they traditionally have 892 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 7: much bigger batteries than the iPhone, but their software is 893 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 7: not optimized because that Android software has to work across 894 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 7: a variety of different phone designs and different processors and 895 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 7: things like that. So since Apple controls the software, the battery, 896 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 7: the processor, it's able to get much more efficiency out 897 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 7: of these I will stay smaller batteries. They don't want 898 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 7: you to know that, so if you ever go on 899 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 7: their site, you don't see them say how big the 900 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 7: gas take is, so to speak. But just know that 901 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 7: if you have a big truck with a big gas take, 902 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 7: it doesn't mean it gets great fuel efficiency. I So 903 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 7: in the case of the iPhone, it's all about that 904 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 7: fuel efficiency. 905 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: Are you sai. 906 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 2: You're saying, basically, is the iPhone just a better phone 907 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: battery wise than androids? 908 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 7: I would say there are Android phones that compete with it. 909 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 7: So the one plus thirteen really impressed us. And there's 910 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 7: a lot of the Chinese brand phones that we don't 911 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 7: get in the US that are probably even better than 912 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 7: the iPhone in some of these tests. As we don't 913 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 7: get them here, we don't get to test them all 914 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 7: in the same way, or they're in mandarate and things 915 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 7: like that. But yeah, so the iPhone is not the 916 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 7: only way to go to get a big to get 917 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 7: a long battery life, but it's the phone that most 918 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 7: people have in the US, and it's the most people 919 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 7: care about the US. 920 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's that's entirely juman. I'm an 921 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 2: Apple user and it just all works like it should 922 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 2: and maybe a little more expensive, but it works, and 923 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: I pay a premium for stuff working and sinking as 924 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 2: it should. When you go back years of like maybe 925 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 2: I have a sixteen or fifteen or fourteen, and I'm like, 926 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 2: and well, I mean, it's working, okay, Can I slug 927 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 2: out for another year? You know, the way the economy 928 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: is and money's tight. These damn things are expensive and 929 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: I gotta extend my contract depending who I have. Is 930 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: there a difference? What's it is like the sixteen plus 931 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: and name the seventeen promax? I mean, is it night 932 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 2: and day? 933 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 7: In terms of batter life? It's not night and day. 934 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 7: And even in terms of like cameras, it's not night 935 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 7: and day. Obviously, if you go back three four years, 936 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 7: you start seeing some major differences in noting battery life, 937 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 7: but the cameras your photos will look better, have more 938 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 7: dismos to make you take better photos, even if you're 939 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 7: not a great photographer. You'll have a bigger screen or 940 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 7: brighter screen and things like that. But if you really 941 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 7: go back, like I would say for most of these phones, 942 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 7: if you have an iPhone fourteen and you're thinking about upgrade, 943 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 7: that's a good place to be. If you have an 944 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 7: iPhone fifteen, and unless you really are going to get 945 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 7: a good deal, I would say it's worth sitting out. 946 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 7: But that's the other thing I feel a lot of 947 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 7: people don't look at and one of our scene at 948 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 7: surveys we found that a lot of people don't even 949 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 7: trade in their old phones, and you could trade that in. 950 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 7: Think of it like a car. You're going to get 951 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 7: much better value toward that new phone. And the best 952 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 7: time to trade in is actually when they first launched, 953 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 7: because Apple, O, Verizon, all these all these carriers are 954 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 7: offering these really these deals sometimes I can quote unquote 955 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 7: pay for the whole phone, right, So you got to 956 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 7: look out for that too, all right. 957 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: Patrick Collin was seen at studying a phone data which 958 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 2: ones had the best battery life Right now, the Apple 959 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: seventeen Pro Max is pretty damn good, or the seventeen 960 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: Pro for that matter, is doing really really well, and 961 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: it's one I spo. 962 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 3: Okay, the battery share. What about charging time? 963 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: So if I get a battery charger bank, battery bank, 964 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 2: or I plug in somewhere, I need to get some 965 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 2: juice in my phone. That is a I think as 966 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 2: an outlier, right, because not all charging platforms are built 967 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: the same. 968 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 3: Something's charged faster than others. What about the phone itself? 969 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, so Apple has increased the charging on it. So 970 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 7: we have kind of two types of charges. We have 971 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 7: wired charging and we have wireless or app calls it 972 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 7: mag safe, right. I don't know if you or your 973 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 7: wife have like one of those magnetic stocks. 974 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 3: And I notice we got one. 975 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 2: I've got one in my next to my nightstand. I 976 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: put my phone on it on my alarm clock and 977 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 2: that charge is pretty fast. And then she's got one 978 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 2: she used for her phone in the kitchen and it's 979 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 2: like half as fast. 980 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 3: What's going on? 981 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, So with those wireless charging there's kind of these 982 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 7: different standards. So Apple, Google, Samsung and hundreds of other 983 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 7: companies are part of the thing called the Wireless Power Consortium, 984 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 7: and they have the standard called KE it's called you 985 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 7: spell it out QI, and the original like standard is 986 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 7: like very slow charging there's Key too that came out 987 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 7: maybe two years ago, and that's a bit faster. And 988 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 7: then the last version's Key two point two. So that 989 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 7: gives us these twenty five watt speeds that you're probably experiencing. 990 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 7: But sounds like maybe your wife might have an older 991 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 7: mag safe stock, but it still has the magnet, it 992 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 7: still does the wireless charging. And what's great is that 993 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 7: those speeds you're not killing the battery. You're not I know, 994 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 7: years ago we'd recommend not keeping it on the charger 995 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 7: all the time. Most phones have SOWT for the AI 996 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 7: that kind of solved for that problem. But with these 997 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 7: wireless chargers, it just goes slow and steady. And for 998 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 7: the iPhone, the wireless charging on the new phones can 999 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 7: hit twenty five lots, which is pretty pretty fast. 1000 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: How much factor that I mean, okay, ten walk difference 1001 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 2: Let's say between a fifteen minutes or fifteen twenty five 1002 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: Let's just say that for measure how much and that. 1003 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 7: Ten wats Like if you were just throwing it on 1004 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 7: a wireless dock for twenty minutes, you're going to probably 1005 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 7: see the difference between like ten or fifteen percent more 1006 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 7: charge on the newer one, right, But then there's the 1007 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 7: wire charging, which if you plug that in and have 1008 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 7: they don't give you the wall charger in the dock. 1009 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 7: But if you get a one of the newer wall 1010 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 7: chargers that's capable of these speeds, you're gonna be able 1011 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 7: to hit fifty percent in twenty minutes on all the phones. 1012 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,720 Speaker 7: So in our scene at lab testing, we also tested 1013 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 7: the charging speed and found that Apple's claims of fifty 1014 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 7: percent in twenty minutes where we're ballot, one of them 1015 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 7: hit forty nine. But that's margin of error. 1016 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, interesting, So yeah, look for that twenty 1017 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: five watch charger or the mag safe charger or the 1018 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 2: things for your phone and get the fastest when you can. 1019 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 3: So the more waded, the faster chargers. 1020 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense, yeah, because that's a 1021 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 2: big question too, is like, man, my phone doesn't charge 1022 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 2: fast enough, and that that could be wise. Well all right, 1023 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 2: so bottom line here, head into a holiday shopping season, 1024 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 2: maybe gonna last minute Christmas gift wherever it might be 1025 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 2: for the holidays. 1026 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 3: What are you looking at? What'd you get? 1027 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1028 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 7: So I think if we're just for sticking with iPhones, 1029 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 7: I would say that if you want the best battery life, 1030 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 7: you're get to go with the Promac. If you want 1031 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 7: a really good battery life, and we're not talking dramatically 1032 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 7: less than the Promac, I would say, look at the 1033 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 7: iPhone seventeen. It not only costs hundreds of dollars less, 1034 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 7: it has an amazing battery life. And that battery life 1035 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 7: is still better than the iPhone sixteen and the iPhone 1036 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,800 Speaker 7: fifteen before it. And definitely as you get to older phones, 1037 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 7: and if you're looking into things like charging, also think 1038 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 7: about accessories. I feel like that's a place where a 1039 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 7: lot of forget. So if you want to take advantage 1040 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 7: of some of these faster speeds, take a look at 1041 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 7: the stuff that you have in your house, or you 1042 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 7: might have to get something from Apple or Amazon that 1043 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 7: supports these faster speeds to really enjoy it. 1044 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 3: Utcha And once again, if you're going Android. 1045 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 7: If you go on Android, I would say the phone 1046 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 7: I would recommend and I hesitated about this is the 1047 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 7: Galaxy S twenty five Ultra. That's going to be a 1048 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 7: very good battery life phone. However, we they traditionally launched 1049 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 7: a new model in January, so I would say, if 1050 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 7: you can wait on buying an Android phone, like for 1051 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 7: a month or two that you're probably going to have 1052 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 7: a new one waiting for you on the other side 1053 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 7: of the new year. And another good one to look 1054 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 7: at is the one plus thirteen. This thing has a 1055 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 7: seven over seven thousand million our battery that's almost one 1056 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 7: and a half times bigger than the iPhone Promax. It 1057 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 7: gets incredible battery life, and it has insane charging speeds. 1058 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 7: It can get eighty lot of wireless charging. And again 1059 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 7: this is a Chinese brand, and out side the US 1060 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,800 Speaker 7: that same phone gets one hundred watch. But we have 1061 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 7: some regulations that we have regulations. 1062 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: Correct, they don't care about radiation and burns or fires, 1063 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 2: answer and things like that fires in China some regular Now, okay, 1064 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 2: those Now that the the phone that Ted Danson advertises 1065 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 2: for the elderly folks, right, that one that still runs 1066 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 2: on coal. 1067 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 7: Right, I'm sure it does. 1068 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 6: But you know what, four. 1069 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 5: Just numbers. 1070 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't need mail, I don't need to take pictures. 1071 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 2: I just need a phone with numbers on it. And 1072 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 2: I've got my numbers in my purse and I type 1073 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 2: them in. 1074 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,919 Speaker 7: I say, look to our elders, because I think there's 1075 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 7: something to say about. 1076 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 8: Having a phone. 1077 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 7: That's that's simple, and that you're not on your phone 1078 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 7: all the time. Granted, we're able to run businesses, we're 1079 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 7: able to make movies, we're able to do all these 1080 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 7: amazing things in our phones. But for a lot of us, 1081 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 7: it's a lot of place to go when we're boord 1082 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 7: and get swelled into scrolling and doom scrolling right. 1083 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 3: Right, right, Yeah. 1084 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 2: My mom passed away four years ago and she's still 1085 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 2: at eighty percent on her phone. It's incredible because it's 1086 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 2: like it's just there's nothing else going on here, all right. 1087 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 2: He is Patrick Collin with CNET. Thanks again for the 1088 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 2: I always love your stuff. Man, you guys are great 1089 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 2: and I'll always love having you on, So don't be 1090 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 2: a stranger. 1091 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 7: I appreciate. Thank you so much. 1092 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 3: Take care. 1093 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 2: Crazy story with Denver Broncos linebacker Alex Singleton. He gets 1094 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: a NFL you know, random drug test shows up and 1095 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 2: it looks like, wow, you're on steroids or you have 1096 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: testicular cancer because your hormonne levels are utivated. He said, well, 1097 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm not on steroids. Goes to doctor so right after 1098 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,720 Speaker 2: the game on Thursday night, Friday morning, is in surgery 1099 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 2: It's amazing what these screenings can't catch. And that was 1100 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 2: just lucky. Doctor Asanj's on the show. Next to our 1101 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 2: weekly health and fitness segment with him, we'll talk about 1102 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 2: the test you need by age, so in your thirties, forties, fifties, 1103 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: sixties and beyond, which ones are necessary, which ones are 1104 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 2: just stupid. We'll get to that just to head Sloaney, 1105 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Scott's phoning back on seven hundred w 1106 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 2: LW Thursday Morning check in kind of a new segment 1107 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 2: of the show. Sanjay Schevacremani is an EIR physician here 1108 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, but also his entire brand is about health 1109 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 2: and food and fitness, so all those things are interesting 1110 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 2: come together. Not the kind of pushy like do a 1111 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 2: thousand push ups and only eat avocado kind of guy. 1112 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: He's like a normal dude. He was talking about a 1113 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 2: favorite steak a minute ago. Son Jay, welcome back. 1114 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 3: How are you? 1115 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 9: It's only morning, Sloan. It's only nine hundred and fifty 1116 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 9: push ups a day for me, not a full thousand. 1117 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1118 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,919 Speaker 2: I like some of the men's magazines where I don't 1119 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 2: need to squad a refrigerator I'm good man, I'm good. 1120 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 3: I'm exactly. 1121 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 2: It's an interesting story that just happened on Thursday. Denver 1122 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 2: Bronco linebacker Alex Singleton, if you heard the story, had 1123 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 2: nine tackles on Thursday nights when Friday morning he's in 1124 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 2: surgery for testicular cancer. What had happened is the NFL 1125 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 2: gave me random drug screening tests to do all players, 1126 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 2: and it came back and said, hey, you're positive. And 1127 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 2: he said, well, I know I don't take steroids. The 1128 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,280 Speaker 2: only other thing that could be with the raised hormone 1129 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 2: levels is testicular cancer. He went to a physician, he tested. 1130 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 2: It was that he went to surgery and I guess 1131 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 2: he's doing much much better. But no, hear that someone 1132 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 2: young and vibrately an NFL player testicular cass. Had they 1133 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 2: not had that drug screen that could have been fatal. 1134 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean fortunate, really fortunate and lucky. It's actually 1135 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 9: it reminds me of a story from Reddit about ten 1136 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,919 Speaker 9: years ago where a guy posted a pregnancy test strip 1137 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 9: from his girlfriend and it was He's like, I urinated 1138 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 9: on this and it's positive. Isn't this funny? And then 1139 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 9: people chimed in one after another. That's like, hey, get 1140 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 9: checked out. That's probably testicular cancer, right, because of the 1141 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 9: hormones that are secreted when you have it. He saw 1142 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 9: a doctor and then had surgery, and so again it's 1143 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 9: the same lucky thing. The concern being, you know, what 1144 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 9: if it wasn't for that drug test, What if it 1145 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 9: wasn't for him being on a pregnancy test strip, what then? 1146 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 9: And that's the real thing about preventative care is getting 1147 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 9: ahead of things, and not by luck alone, but because you're. 1148 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 2: Pernously doing there. I know there's a lot of things 1149 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 2: in medicine like that. I mean, I'm gonna butcher this 1150 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 2: because it's been a long time. But as I recall, 1151 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: I knew someone who was he and I exam and 1152 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 2: they found some doesn't quite look quite right there anyway, 1153 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 2: A long story short, I think there's is there a 1154 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,240 Speaker 2: connection between the the ocular nerve or the the eyeball 1155 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 2: and is it delivered the kidney is something along those lines, 1156 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,280 Speaker 2: And it turns out it was to be a cancer, 1157 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 2: they will to catch it extremely early simply because the 1158 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 2: optomologist saw something like that doesn't look quite right. 1159 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, there are links between kind of all the organs 1160 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 9: that the kidneys can change your eyes, change your eyes, 1161 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 9: and so like, yeah, everything's connected and just getting some 1162 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 9: getting yourself looked at can lead to a lot of 1163 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 9: important findings that that can you know, save your life. 1164 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you as an er doc, you see this, 1165 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 2: you know, you see the result of this stuff of 1166 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 2: either the bad luck where you don't catch the stuff 1167 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 2: or people just ignoring the symptoms. You talk about preventative 1168 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 2: measures too. One of the biggest things we're starting to 1169 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 2: learn more about, and I'm a big proponent of, is 1170 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 2: vitamin D. 1171 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, and this is this is something that has been 1172 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 9: around for a long time that people have talked about 1173 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 9: vitamins and vitamin D and specific But when we think 1174 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 9: about vitamin D usually you think about what it's usually sunshine, 1175 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 9: sunshine and then leading to bone health, and people think 1176 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 9: about calcium and everything. But what we're learning is there 1177 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 9: are so many more benefits to vitamin D and getting 1178 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 9: through that data of what you know, what it helps, 1179 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 9: and what it may not is part of the plan. 1180 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 9: But really, vitamin D seems to be one of the 1181 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,240 Speaker 9: most important things that we can measure in our body. 1182 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 2: Is vitamin D going to be the new protein because 1183 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 2: you just said because everything's got protein and the protein 1184 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,320 Speaker 2: has extra protein, water with protein and it now cereal 1185 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 2: has extra protein. We're getting protein all the time, which 1186 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 2: is not a bad thing, But are we going to 1187 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 2: have everything with extra vitamin D at it now? 1188 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 9: Because of this, I wouldn't be surprised. So you know, 1189 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 9: in time we'll see. So again, vitamin D healthy for 1190 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 9: bone health. It helps your body get calcium into it, 1191 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 9: phosphorus that goes into your bones. But also it turns 1192 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 9: out that almost every organ in our body has vitamin 1193 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 9: D receptors, So it's not just the bones, it's in 1194 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 9: our brain. So you know, the serotonin that makes you 1195 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 9: happy that relies on vitamin D our heart. There's actually 1196 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 9: a study that just came out about men with that 1197 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 9: I've had a heart attack. If they had their vitamin 1198 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 9: D levels increased to greater than forty they had a 1199 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 9: fifty percent less chance of a second heart attack after that. 1200 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 9: That was just released like a month ago from Inner 1201 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,919 Speaker 9: Mountain Health. And so knowing that data, I think there's 1202 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,400 Speaker 9: going to be a lot more studies into what vitamin 1203 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 9: D can do to help us. 1204 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, of all the supplements, is that the one you 1205 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 3: recommend the. 1206 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 9: Most Yeah, of all of them, that would be it. 1207 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 9: I mean there's a lot of stuff out there. We 1208 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 9: talked about zinc last week for getting better, but I'd 1209 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 9: say vitamin D is one of the most things you 1210 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 9: can take for your own health, and. 1211 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: Real quick on that to the de belaevor. But what 1212 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 2: about delivery, because there's you know, if gummies, you have 1213 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,439 Speaker 2: the typical big giant vitamin, you have the liquid caps 1214 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 2: that I take. 1215 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: What. 1216 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, the liquid caps are great, that all of them 1217 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 9: are fine, the best way that works for you. But 1218 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 9: you want to take the vitamin D three. It can 1219 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 9: come in D two form, but D three is the 1220 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,280 Speaker 9: one you want, and really it's hard to get toxic 1221 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 9: on it, right, So these things come in international units. 1222 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 9: If you're taking more than ten thousand international units a 1223 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 9: day for a long time, that can hurt you. But 1224 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 9: usually in the range of like two thousand to four 1225 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 9: thousand and six thousand a day, you're okay. That being said, 1226 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 9: the benefits in that study were really for the people 1227 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 9: who were low to start, and so you do want 1228 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 9: to also get your levels checked so you make sure 1229 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 9: that if you're deficient, you're getting to a good level. 1230 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 9: If you're in a greater than forty range, which I 1231 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 9: know is slow and you're probably around there. Oh if 1232 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,439 Speaker 9: you're there and there's less need for it, but you're 1233 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 9: also doing stuff to bring up your vitamin D. 1234 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Then there's the different things you can have, right, 1235 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 2: you have, you have D two, D three, you have 1236 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 2: K two. You have all these things right right. 1237 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 9: I mean it's like it's just it's alphabet soup as numericals, 1238 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 9: So really matter as long as you're getting D three, Yeah, 1239 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 9: D three is what you want, and whatever form it 1240 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 9: comes in, you should be Okay. I just I literally 1241 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 9: after seeing that internat and the house study about heart attacks, 1242 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 9: not that I've had a heart attack before, but I 1243 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 9: bought gummies myself. I okay, you know, I didn't think 1244 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 9: about it. But as we enter the cold season, there's 1245 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 9: a couple of things that drop our vitamin D levels. So, 1246 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 9: as you mentioned, the sun is what produces most of 1247 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 9: our vitamin D. It hits our skin, vitamin D is produced. 1248 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 9: But in the winter times November to February in Cincinnati, 1249 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 9: we're not getting the sunlight we need for a couple 1250 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 9: of reasons. One, we're not going out because as we 1251 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 9: all experience, it's cold as heck right now. And then two, 1252 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 9: the sun is actually at a lower angle, so it's 1253 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 9: hitting our body at this weird angle that does not 1254 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 9: produce vitamin D anymore. 1255 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 2: All right, So that's a good start. I'm real quick 1256 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 2: because you know, like like a few minutes. But Sonjay, 1257 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 2: let's talk about the tests that you should be getting 1258 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 2: based on age. You know, twenties, you're having a good 1259 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 2: by the time you get thirty, it's time to start, 1260 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 2: you know, get a base one with what blood pressure, skin, 1261 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. 1262 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we want to be. 1263 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 9: So our bodies are pretty forgiving, as we've all experienced 1264 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 9: in our twenties and thirties. There's a lot of things 1265 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 9: we can do and don't have to do, but it 1266 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 9: is a good time to set up habits. That is, 1267 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 9: you know, seeing a physician or at least having your 1268 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 9: blood pressure checked annually, making sure you like cholesterol is okay, 1269 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 9: and then also developing the habits including you know, good 1270 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 9: dietary lifestyle, but also fitness and and lifting to help 1271 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 9: set yourself up for a longer, higher quality life that'll 1272 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 9: be your twenties. 1273 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 3: And maybe what about things like baseline EKGs diabetes screenings. 1274 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 3: What wage group does that. 1275 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 9: Commend diabetes screening, I'd say is in the It depends 1276 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 9: on your risk factors. You know, if you're if you're obese, 1277 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 9: if you have a family history of diabetes, you want 1278 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 9: to get checked earlier. Usually it's thirties and forties that 1279 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 9: diabetes it is starting to be checked for the most part. 1280 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 9: You know, again, I'm emergency room doctor. 1281 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 7: It is not what you do. 1282 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 9: This is the stuff and so, but what I do 1283 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 9: see is the long long standing effects or the problems 1284 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 9: that develop because people haven't gotten screened or haven't had 1285 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 9: their symptoms managed. And diabetes is one of those things 1286 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 9: that's easy to check for that would be important to 1287 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 9: check early. 1288 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 2: All Right, when you see people coming to the emergencery 1289 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 2: with symptoms, I'd imagine too many times you're not diagnosing 1290 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 2: cancer in the ED right. 1291 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 9: Unfortunately more often than you said. 1292 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: So let's let's rewind that. Then that's gonna come probably 1293 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 2: in your sixties fifties, we. 1294 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 9: I mean, that's that's when it's more normal. Yes, but 1295 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 9: I'll tell you I've had twenty year olds diagnosed with 1296 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 9: breast cancer that I've diagnosed with breast cancer, pancreatic cancer. 1297 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 9: It's a terrible one which is even hard to screen for. 1298 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 9: But that that I've diagnosed in forty year olds, it 1299 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 9: can happen at any age, which is not I don't 1300 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 9: mean to be doom and gloom, but it's my reality 1301 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 9: and that's what I see. Yes, it's rare, but these 1302 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 9: are there are certain ones that can be prevented. You 1303 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 9: talked about testicular cancer, So guys, just doing a testicular 1304 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 9: exam annually we can help screen for those women doing 1305 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 9: breast exams that you can screen annually for that before 1306 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 9: we get into the time of mimography stuff. 1307 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 2: Right, so then colon ascoby is the happy time right 1308 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 2: around fifty. But with PSA, with the advanced test, the 1309 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 2: PSA tests and stool tests and stuff like that, has 1310 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 2: that gone the old digit test is that done now? 1311 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 9: So less digit tests now that we have the stool test, 1312 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 9: so fortunately there's less of it. But we still check 1313 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 9: for prostate cancer, you know, manually. Although PSA has has 1314 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 9: shown some promise, it's just not a catch all and 1315 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 9: so your your physician may want to still do the 1316 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 9: digital exam to check your prostate but it's an important 1317 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 9: part still just to screen. It's a it's a thing 1318 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 9: that most men will have by the time they're eighty, 1319 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 9: they will have some form of prosta cancer. But you know, 1320 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 9: for the most part, it's not going to be life threatening. 1321 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 9: That being said, it can be, and so it's always 1322 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 9: good to get it checked and also have someone who 1323 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 9: can put it into context for you because there's a 1324 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 9: lot of noise out there. 1325 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 2: I know a couple of people wouldn't do it and 1326 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 2: then they wind up getting prostate cancer, dying and regretted it. 1327 01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it's certainly something you don't want to have 1328 01:01:59,800 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 3: to go. 1329 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 7: Oh. 1330 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 2: It's not the highlight of your day either, nor is 1331 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 2: for the patient, but it's one of those necessary things. 1332 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 7: You know. 1333 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 2: Some of these things you see about different types of scans, 1334 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 2: the calcium whatever that is where you've got the blood 1335 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 2: pressure cuff on your ankle and they jump on your 1336 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,959 Speaker 2: chest or whatever the hell is done. I was fine, 1337 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what this is, but Okay, 1338 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 2: there's different tests like that that are offered, and yet 1339 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 2: there are other ones where are like get a full Hey, 1340 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 2: we're gonna be the library with this truck tomorrow for 1341 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 2: two thousand dollars you can get a full body seet 1342 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 2: What do I really need. 1343 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 9: Need is an interesting thing. I hesitate to do the 1344 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 9: full body scans or advise people to get it, just 1345 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 9: because there's so much information there. I'll tell you that, 1346 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 9: like even in our scans we do in the emergency 1347 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 9: department for reasons for symptoms, we'll find a lot of 1348 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 9: what we call incidental lomas, things that we find just 1349 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 9: by accident that probably don't mean anything. 1350 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 3: Probably benign exactly, but would work a. 1351 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 9: Patient up and and you know then they may have 1352 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 9: unnecessary scans to follow that up. Said, occasionally we do 1353 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 9: find something that needs follow up, but for the most part, 1354 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 9: we're finding more things than we need to with those 1355 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 9: full body scans. That being said, there's things like the 1356 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 9: DEXA scan, which is very low radiation X ray for 1357 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 9: the whole body that tells you a good idea about 1358 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 9: how your bone health is, how your muscle health is, 1359 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 9: and how much kind of fat you have on you 1360 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 9: And those are cheaper. They're usually run about one hundred 1361 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 9: dollars and they're definitely gaining popularity as far as getting 1362 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 9: an idea of where you are, and a lot of 1363 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 9: places are. 1364 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 3: Offering, especially for women in their sixties and sixty five. 1365 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 9: And for sure, and that's kind of where it started, 1366 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 9: was to check FROs your porosis, so basically thinning bones. 1367 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 9: But now they've they've found ways to actually expand that 1368 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,920 Speaker 9: to say how much lean muscle mass do I have? 1369 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 9: And that can be that is an important part as 1370 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,919 Speaker 9: we're learning more and more. You mentioned protein earlier, Yeah, 1371 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 9: it is an important part of our lives, is are 1372 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 9: how much muscle mass. 1373 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 8: Do we have? 1374 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1375 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 2: I mean it's fascinating because you see these tests and go, 1376 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,040 Speaker 2: I really need that. I know someone had added and 1377 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 2: I think the problem with that is it's so granular, 1378 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 2: right is if you looked at the human skeleton, which 1379 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 2: is pretty clean, but you know, as you know, if 1380 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 2: you look at the imaging of body, you're going to 1381 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 2: have inperfections all over. Nothing is exactly the same in everybody. 1382 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 2: And then it's going to cause you to go, oh 1383 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 2: my god, it's a tumor. Well, it's probably not a 1384 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 2: tumor exactly. It could lead you down a. 1385 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 9: Dark place, spend a lot of money for tests you 1386 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 9: don't need exactly, but there there is some valuable information. 1387 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 9: But it's also important to have someone that can help 1388 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 9: you interpret that to go forward, whether it be if 1389 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 9: you get this done. You know, I know some medspas 1390 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 9: offer it, but your primary care doctor can do it too, 1391 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 9: and so someone to help you interpret what it means 1392 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 9: so you can make the lifestyle changes you need. 1393 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 2: Perfect son Jay Shevacrimani. He's our expert on Scotsland. Shi 1394 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 2: the Fitness Guy. Fitness Doc at dine Well Doc is 1395 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 2: his handle on social health, food, fitness and more and 1396 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 2: he pops in every Thursday morning and talk about this stuff. 1397 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Good. 1398 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 5: Good than man. 1399 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 3: Good to see you again, Graty, Thank you for popping in. 1400 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 1401 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 2: I got to get a time in it because we 1402 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 2: got news on the way in just about four minutes 1403 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 2: and we're I turned the shit you know Peachins here 1404 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,919 Speaker 2: from Epstein Justice dot com. 1405 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 6: Man. 1406 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the bad part, the awful part 1407 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 2: about partisan politics is now you've got to defend people 1408 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 2: on your team instead of finding out what the real 1409 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 2: truth is. We'll get into that coming up next on 1410 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 2: the show seven hundred WW Cincinnati. 1411 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 5: Don't want to. 1412 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 3: Scott Flow here seven hundred WLW. 1413 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 2: A couple of big stories going on of course, the 1414 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,959 Speaker 2: government reopening, and you wonder the timing of that, along 1415 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 2: with the fact that the Democrats in the House Oversight 1416 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 2: Committee dumped a whole bunch of emails, including one from 1417 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen which Jeffrey Epstein alleges that President Trump quote 1418 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 2: knew about the girls behind the scenes. You had a 1419 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 2: bunch of administration officials meeting with representatives they thought vulnerable. 1420 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 2: Do would agree Representative Lauren Bobert maybe not vulnerable. Those 1421 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 2: who want to play ball met with her about the 1422 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 2: effort to force a House vote. 1423 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 3: On the release. They tried to get her to pull 1424 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 3: her name. She refused. 1425 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 2: She's one of four Republicans, including Kentucky's Thomas Massey, to 1426 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 2: go against the party, which I think is interesting because 1427 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 2: we talked about transparency and let's release the records on 1428 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 2: the campaign trail, and then when your name is in there, 1429 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, well maybe not so much. But 1430 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 2: on the other hand, you wonder how many Democrats are there, 1431 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 2: because that committee is going to be very selective about 1432 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 2: the records they release. Republicans dropped about twenty thousand on 1433 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 2: their own as well, and you wonder what names are 1434 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 2: in there. I'm in the camp of just release it 1435 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 2: all and let's figure it out. He's Pete chin Now, 1436 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 2: founder of epstein Justice dot Com. And I like it 1437 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 2: because they're a nonpartisan organization, grassroots, a bunch of folks 1438 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 2: who got together sick and tired of this and sickened 1439 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 2: by the fact that young women in particular are being 1440 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 2: victimized by the wealthy and powerful and connected, and it's 1441 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 2: been a conspiracy for a long time, and so it 1442 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 2: just wants to get the truth. I think you're with 1443 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 2: me on that peak. Just looking through your site quickly here. 1444 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 2: First of all, welcome. Secondly, I look at it and go, 1445 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 2: you know, just we'll release it all. And there's going 1446 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 2: to be Democrats, Republicans and a whole bunch of people 1447 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 2: who are caught up in this thing. But again, it 1448 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 2: gets to show you the protectionism that power affords. 1449 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 6: No question about it, Scott. And first of all, thanks 1450 01:06:58,800 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 6: of all, thanks for. 1451 01:06:59,480 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 8: Having me on. 1452 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 6: And second of all, you're right. This issue isn't going away. 1453 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 6: And the reason it's not going away is because the majority, 1454 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 6: and I mean a vast majority of the American people 1455 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 6: of both parties and those of no party all agree 1456 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 6: that transparency is the only thing that is going to 1457 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 6: sunlight is going to be the only disinfectant that can 1458 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 6: possibly erase this stain. What I call it is a 1459 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 6: stain on the Republic. We actually don't know, and this 1460 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 6: is the big problem, Scott. We don't actually know how 1461 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 6: far the corruption goes, how deep it went, who all 1462 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 6: was involved, who got paid, who was where did the 1463 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,360 Speaker 6: money come from, and where did it all go. And 1464 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, Scott, at the end 1465 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,240 Speaker 6: of the day, what's most important to Epstein Justice and 1466 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 6: Epstein Justice dot Com is that these victims finally get 1467 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 6: some sense of justice. You know, this is the largest 1468 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 6: potentially child sex trafficking operation that's ever existed on US soil, 1469 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 6: and the only person that has. 1470 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 7: Faced any kind of punishment is Dwayne. 1471 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 6: Maxwell, and she's currently at the Pushift federal facility we have, 1472 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 6: having been transferred from one only slightly more onerous. So 1473 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 6: we've got a problem. In the United States. The vast 1474 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 6: majority of both parties and those of no party want proof, 1475 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,719 Speaker 6: they want transparency, and they want these files released because 1476 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,720 Speaker 6: irrespective of which party is involved, and let's face it, 1477 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 6: we both know that members of both parties are likely involved. 1478 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,640 Speaker 6: Whoever is involved should have their name exposed and at 1479 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 6: a minimum subjected to public approbation. But perhaps there should 1480 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 6: be some legal consequences for some of these folks too, 1481 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 6: who facilitated the movement of money, who facilitated the movement 1482 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 6: of people. And at this point, only one person has 1483 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,879 Speaker 6: faced any sort of consequences, And it is a national 1484 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 6: crisis in part because we don't actually know what Jeffrey 1485 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 6: Epstein's full motivations were. Was he sponsored by a government? 1486 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,879 Speaker 6: How did he become to be a near billionaire himself, 1487 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 6: a guy who had parents that were middle class people 1488 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 6: in Queen's We don't know the answers to these questions, 1489 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 6: but the American people know one thing, Scott. There's something 1490 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,600 Speaker 6: rotten here and it's not going to get dealt with 1491 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 6: by any other way than getting to all the facts. 1492 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 3: Well, this is this is an indictment. 1493 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,879 Speaker 2: I think of our political parties that both are protecting 1494 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 2: their their own kind. And we'll get into that in 1495 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 2: a second, but let's get to these email releases here 1496 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 2: that just came out so democratical. 1497 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 3: These emails. 1498 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 2: Epstein wrote that Trump knew about the girls, and Trump 1499 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 2: asked Helene to stop and there's one in twenty eleven, 1500 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 2: and this is the cryptic one. And you've studied all 1501 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 2: of this documentation. There's a lot of six stuff in 1502 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 2: the Epstein files if you look under the hood, and 1503 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 2: it's it's horrible. But wrote at one time, I want 1504 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 2: you to realize that the dog in that the I 1505 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 2: want you to realize that the dog has embarked in 1506 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 2: Trump and he's hours at my house with him. He's 1507 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,600 Speaker 2: never once been mentioned. You hear those communications. What's your 1508 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 2: analysis and what does that mean about the dog? 1509 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 6: I think all of that means is that President Trump 1510 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 6: had knowledge that Jeffrey Epstein liked underage girls. But you 1511 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 6: know what, that shouldn't really be any sort of mystery. 1512 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 6: He disclosed in a New Yorker article in two thousand 1513 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 6: and two that Jeffrey Epstein's a lot of fun. He 1514 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 6: likes girls. 1515 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 5: Some say he likes. 1516 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 6: Beautiful women as much as I do, some even on 1517 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 6: the younger side. Now, President Trump ran the miss Kean 1518 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 6: US faith aagint, so for him to say that Jeffrey 1519 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 6: Epstein likes women on the younger side or girls on 1520 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 6: the younger side, that tells you that he had knowledge. 1521 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 6: But then again, almost all of the elites in public 1522 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 6: life had knowledge that Jeffrey Epstein was a child sex trafficker. 1523 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 6: This was one of the most open secrets in American society, 1524 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 6: and people as high as Bill Clinton listen. This spans, 1525 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 6: This corruption spans the administrations going all the way back 1526 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 6: to George W. Bush and encompass encompasses all of them, 1527 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,680 Speaker 6: both Democrat and Republican, across that time period. It was 1528 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 6: the George W. Bush administration that allowed Jeffrey Epstein to 1529 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 6: receive a sweetheart deal instead of getting buried under the 1530 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 6: prison for the clear evidence that they had of child 1531 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 6: sex trafficking. They had dozens of affidavits against him, did 1532 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 6: the Palm City police. No one was more frustrated by 1533 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 6: the outcome of that case than the police, who corrupt 1534 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,600 Speaker 6: plected all of the evidence against him, which was and 1535 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 6: still remains substantial. So questions that remain about how that 1536 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 6: happened in two thousand and five under the George W. 1537 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 6: Bush administration haven't been answered, much less why the whole 1538 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,960 Speaker 6: situation was ignored under two terms of Obama, a term 1539 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 6: of Biden, and of course President Trump's first term as well. 1540 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,639 Speaker 6: When Jeffrey Trump was re arrested. Why would Jeffrey Trump 1541 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,960 Speaker 6: re arrest it? We still literally don't have a good 1542 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:04,680 Speaker 6: insight into that. 1543 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 2: There were questions and answers, largely because, well, you know, 1544 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 2: we have those no Kings protests and are you followed 1545 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 2: any of that stuff? I'll laugh, because you know, it's 1546 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 2: a lot of the same things that they're protesting against 1547 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,880 Speaker 2: their own party does and general that's Democrats. But I 1548 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 2: think people don't realize that this is a different class 1549 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,719 Speaker 2: of people entirely. Not necessarily the deep state stuff because 1550 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 2: that goes with the territory, but the fact that the rich, 1551 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 2: the elite, the powerful are connected and they swim in 1552 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 2: the same fish. 1553 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 3: Take. You think it's about politics, it's not. It's about 1554 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 3: us and them. 1555 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 2: And I think most Americans want to see all these 1556 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 2: documents released now. The twenty thousand released by the Republicans 1557 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 2: a huge document dump. The same day Democrats release these 1558 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 2: three emails. 1559 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 3: What's in that? Have you looked through it? 1560 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 6: I certainly haven't had time to four through twenty thousand 1561 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 6: pages the email, But what I have done is I've 1562 01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 6: reviewed some of the coverage of it, and the reality 1563 01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 6: is that this is this document dump without any real investigation. 1564 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 6: Just here's raw files. 1565 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:05,920 Speaker 8: Here they are. 1566 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 6: This is why we at Epstein Justice. We're not calling 1567 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,640 Speaker 6: for simply a release of the files. We're calling for 1568 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:17,960 Speaker 6: a non partisan congressional investigation that would involve members of 1569 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,680 Speaker 6: both parties acting in good faith to expose this and 1570 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 6: in reality, creating such a commission only requires a simple 1571 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,679 Speaker 6: majority of both parties, but it requires a good faith 1572 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 6: willingness on the members of Congress to hold the executive 1573 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 6: branch to account. Look, this has covered both administrations, so 1574 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,639 Speaker 6: or rather both parties over multiple administrations. So this really 1575 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 6: is a non partisan issue, which is why we are 1576 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 6: a non partisan organization. If you wanted to put some 1577 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 6: kind of label on it, it's like you said, it's 1578 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 6: us in them. If you wanted to get fancy, you 1579 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 6: could call it a class issue, because it really is. 1580 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,240 Speaker 6: It's the wealthy people. I mean, we can't live in 1581 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 6: a country scott where billionaires can take our daughters and 1582 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 6: rape them with impunity and face no consequences. That's what 1583 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 6: we're talking about, and that's why we have to fight 1584 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 6: as Americans, and we urge every American to call their 1585 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 6: member of Congress, both in the Senate and in the 1586 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 6: House and say, hey, we demand you members of Congress 1587 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 6: do your jobs, form a commission and investigate this on 1588 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 6: a nonpartisan basis, so all the facts can come to life, 1589 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 6: and those who need to be held accountable can finally 1590 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 6: be held accountable. So Scott, we can finally get some 1591 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,599 Speaker 6: sense of justice for the dozens, perhaps hundreds. In fact, 1592 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 6: the Department of Justice says over a thousand victims of 1593 01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 6: Jeffrey Epstein's criminal child sex trafficking network. 1594 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, here's here's the thing with and this 1595 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,080 Speaker 2: says a lot to me and base and of course 1596 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 2: the politics of it behind the scenes, but even more 1597 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 2: so than that, I look at it and go, okay, well, 1598 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 2: Trump says, hey, there's nothing here, don't worry about It's 1599 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,680 Speaker 2: a nothing burger, no big deal. On the trail, he's 1600 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna work, going to dump all this stuff. 1601 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,719 Speaker 2: And of course back those backed up from that position. 1602 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 2: But you look at maxwell statement about Trump and she 1603 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,640 Speaker 2: said I never saw him in any appropriate setting. You 1604 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 2: saw what Jeffria said before she took her own life, 1605 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 2: and say, you know, Trump is it's fine. 1606 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 3: If that's the case, then you think you'd have nothing 1607 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 3: to hide. 1608 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 6: Then well, and that's that's part of the irony, isn't 1609 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 6: It's got that if you ask the executive branch. And 1610 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 6: by the way, my last job in the Air Force 1611 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 6: was I was a liaison from the executive branch to 1612 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 6: the congressional branch. Which is why I can tell you 1613 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 6: with some authority that the executive branch's official position on 1614 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 6: everything is don't tell Congress anything. And so this is 1615 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 6: why Congress has to force the executive branch really to 1616 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 6: disclose much of anything, because it's the executive branch's view. 1617 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 6: And this is again across administrations, it's not exclusive to 1618 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 6: the Trump administration. But the executive branch's view is that, hey, 1619 01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 6: we need this information to be We don't want to 1620 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 6: disclose anything that might embarrass the government, that might embarrass 1621 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,439 Speaker 6: any powerful officials. We don't want to dispose anything that 1622 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 6: might harm national security, whatever that means, and so and 1623 01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 6: so it's the executive branch's role to keep secrets. Well, 1624 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 6: it's the Congress's role. It's the congressional branch's role to 1625 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 6: get the executive branch to disclose those secrets. And that's 1626 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 6: and it's as simple as that. 1627 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:24,599 Speaker 7: In our system. 1628 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,599 Speaker 6: But the issue though is that in order to get 1629 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 6: Congress to do their job, especially these days, you have 1630 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 6: to have a mass movement, a real mass movement, not 1631 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 6: one that's AstroTurf with fake money. And by the way, 1632 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 6: we don't have any money. This is all a grassroots effort. 1633 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 6: We're all volunteers. None of us are getting paid, you 1634 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 6: can believe that. And so and so we're trying to 1635 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 6: urge every American to say, look, this just isn't tolerable. 1636 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 6: We need the facts in this case. And I believe 1637 01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 6: that if every American comes together and frankly, the show 1638 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,880 Speaker 6: that as many as eighty percent of all Americans and 1639 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 6: this cuts across party lines, think that the Epstein file 1640 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 6: should be fully related and that this matter should be 1641 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 6: fully investigat. 1642 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:12,879 Speaker 3: No question. 1643 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 2: Is with Epstein Justice dot Com. He's a found we're 1644 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 2: talking about this, this document done. But that's the problem, right, 1645 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 2: I mean, there are so many people, not not all, 1646 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,760 Speaker 2: but so many people on Trump's side that are just 1647 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,679 Speaker 2: silent about this whole thing, and of course Speaker Johnson 1648 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 2: trying his best to subvert this whole process. It shows you, 1649 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 2: as you just described, the partisanship in Washington that's killing us. 1650 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,799 Speaker 2: If you can't get justice for underage girls of victims 1651 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:38,480 Speaker 2: of pedophilia. 1652 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 3: Let's call it what it is. 1653 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,439 Speaker 2: Then you start to lose hope here because it's so 1654 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 2: partisan and so divided. We'll protect our own at all costs, 1655 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 2: and you look at the effect we had with this 1656 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 2: government shutdown. Congress has one job. Their job is to 1657 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 2: pass a budget. I have only done it twice in 1658 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:53,639 Speaker 2: my lifetime. 1659 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 3: We allow that to. 1660 01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,560 Speaker 2: Occur as voters, as taxpayers, as citizens. The fact that 1661 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 2: we have completely given the authority to the executive branch 1662 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:02,920 Speaker 2: and taken away Congress is factless. 1663 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:03,839 Speaker 3: They don't do anything. 1664 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Everything is done, and it was on Biden and it's 1665 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 2: also on Trump relative to executive order. And so if 1666 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 2: you just have executive orders coming out, you don't really 1667 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 2: don't need Congress. 1668 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 3: And that's the problem. 1669 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 2: They don't want to do their job basically and oversee 1670 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 2: the executive branch when their person's in power. 1671 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,559 Speaker 6: I agree with you, and that's become a huge problem. 1672 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I still am 1673 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 6: a believer in the American system. I fought for this country. 1674 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,640 Speaker 6: I served in uniform for thirty six years. I'm a 1675 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,760 Speaker 6: combat veteran, and I believe in our constitution. That's what 1676 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,439 Speaker 6: I swore an oath too, That's what I fought for, 1677 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,840 Speaker 6: and I still believe in that document, and I still 1678 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 6: believe that in America, the average citizen, banded together with 1679 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 6: his fellow American citizens, can have an impact and make 1680 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:55,639 Speaker 6: our Congress do what we want them to do. Because ultimately, 1681 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 6: you're right, Scott, if we don't have a Congress that 1682 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 6: is willing to act in accord with the overwhelming will 1683 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,640 Speaker 6: of the American people than what we have as an 1684 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 6: authoritarian say, and nobody wants to live in a country 1685 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 6: that's not a democracy. We are America. We get things 1686 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 6: done because we've been together as people and we decide 1687 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 6: that we're going to do what's right. We've done it 1688 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,160 Speaker 6: for two hundred and fifty years, and we're going to 1689 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 6: do it in this case. I believe that, and I'm 1690 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna let I mean, I know that's an 1691 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 6: upbeat and optimistic note story this dark, but you know, 1692 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,760 Speaker 6: I wouldn't be doing this, Scott, if I didn't believe 1693 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,559 Speaker 6: it was possible. You know, great changes in America take 1694 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 6: great effort, and they take a long time, and oftentimes 1695 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 6: they take money which is something we don't have. You know, 1696 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,040 Speaker 6: my co founder doesn't like to talk about raising money, 1697 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,640 Speaker 6: but I have to tell you billionaires aren't taking our 1698 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:49,200 Speaker 6: fall Scott, and they're not interested in this. They're interested 1699 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 6: in covering this up. So if anybody would like to 1700 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,439 Speaker 6: go to Epsteinjustice dot com and make a donation, we 1701 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 6: would certainly welcome that to help continue these efforts in 1702 01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:57,679 Speaker 6: this work. 1703 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, God bless it's a grassroots effort. Any money 1704 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 2: off this and I just just get the truth out. 1705 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 2: I think I speak for a lot of people going, 1706 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 2: let's find out what's in there, who's in there, and 1707 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,639 Speaker 2: we'll make our own minds up and let justice take course. 1708 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 2: But this is not justice, not at all. Peach In 1709 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 2: at Epstein Justice dot com. Thanks for the input I 1710 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 2: appreciated got. 1711 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,840 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. I look forward to talking to 1712 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 6: you again sometimes. 1713 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I thought it was excellent, was really really good. 1714 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1715 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 2: A lot more questions and answers right now, And the 1716 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 2: politics behind the scene is icky. You know, I don't 1717 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:29,280 Speaker 2: know quite honestly. I for those people who believe in 1718 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 2: God and family and country, those thing three things are 1719 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,920 Speaker 2: coming together right now. I don't understand As someone who 1720 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 2: votes generally Republican, I tend to be more independent and 1721 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 2: make my own mind up and more to libertarian. But 1722 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,599 Speaker 2: not many libertarian candidates on the ballot. But even there's 1723 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 2: problems with libertarian candidates. What about just doing the right 1724 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 2: thing and putting kids over politics. And yet there's a 1725 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,080 Speaker 2: lot of people in our government and a lot of 1726 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 2: enablers that will look the other waiter in this end 1727 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,680 Speaker 2: there's nothing there. Because while I was told there's nothing there, 1728 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 2: I didn't buy that with a Catholic church. I'm not 1729 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:07,599 Speaker 2: buying it with my government. Scott's Sloan Show, seven hundred 1730 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 2: W Wealthy. 1731 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 8: The buying and selling of homes isn't for the timid 1732 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 8: or meek. The real estate world can be a vicious 1733 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,759 Speaker 8: jungle playing with dangers and pitfall. 1734 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 5: Boss. 1735 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:24,720 Speaker 8: Thank god we've got Remax time agent Michelle Sloane, the 1736 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,560 Speaker 8: Fearless Real Tour of Sloan sells Homes dot Com, and 1737 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 8: the Queen of the real estate Jungle. It's real Estate Time, 1738 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,639 Speaker 8: which Michelle Sloane on seven hundred W l Jelli, Hey, 1739 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:37,560 Speaker 8: good morning, what's going on? 1740 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:44,599 Speaker 5: Well? Hello, the sun is shining. The UH shutdown is over? 1741 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 3: Did you see the northern light last night. 1742 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:48,120 Speaker 5: No, I was sleeping. 1743 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 2: It's on the story the other morning. It's like you 1744 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,599 Speaker 2: looking out the window, going, I don't see the northern lights. 1745 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:54,360 Speaker 2: You know it's because you're what. 1746 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 7: You know what? 1747 01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 5: It wasn't looking No, I wasn't looking south. 1748 01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 8: You know what? 1749 01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 5: It is not south out that window. It's still in 1750 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,559 Speaker 5: the northerly either north or south. 1751 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 2: There's no near near north. It's almost north. It's almost north, 1752 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 2: halfway between north and south of the east or west. Yeah, anyway, anyway, 1753 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 2: it's fine. We didn't see it in person because a 1754 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,320 Speaker 2: I was sleeping. You're next bucket list because Australia was 1755 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 2: a bucket list. 1756 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,240 Speaker 3: Do you want to see the northern line? 1757 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 6: I know you. 1758 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,040 Speaker 5: I do want to see the northern lights. But you 1759 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 5: know what, here's the thing. I feel like that might 1760 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,800 Speaker 5: be falling down on my list of things that I 1761 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 5: would like to do. 1762 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 3: All right, what's next? 1763 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,720 Speaker 5: Because you know what when you usually when you see 1764 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,720 Speaker 5: the northern lights, Yeah, you have to be somewhere where 1765 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:49,560 Speaker 5: it's really cold, It's true, and yeah, oh you're not. 1766 01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 3: You don't have to be outside to see the northern lights. 1767 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,800 Speaker 3: You could be inside. 1768 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,640 Speaker 5: Maybe I would, you know, if I could be in 1769 01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:57,879 Speaker 5: one of those little domes. 1770 01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think they have those. 1771 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 5: There's never any guarantee that you're going to see the 1772 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 5: darn things. I've heard horror stories people spending thousands of 1773 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,360 Speaker 5: dollars to go see the northern lights and then they 1774 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:14,240 Speaker 5: don't happen. I don't know, I'm I I think that 1775 01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 5: that might be falling off the list. 1776 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,280 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough. I don't know. You can 1777 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:20,640 Speaker 3: do the cheap version of this. 1778 01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 2: Go to Cleveland and just close your eyes and rub 1779 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 2: your thumbs really hard in your eyelids when they're closed, 1780 01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:30,560 Speaker 2: Look northern lights. Okay, let's look towards Canada. The north side. No, 1781 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 2: that's that's south. The other the other window, the other window. 1782 01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:38,880 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, fine, same thing. Just fine, close your eyes. 1783 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about I imagine the topic today 1784 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:43,960 Speaker 2: is going to be the fifty year mortgage. 1785 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 3: I can feel you, I could sense you champions to 1786 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:47,040 Speaker 3: talk about this. 1787 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 5: It is because it is. I don't want to say 1788 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:52,639 Speaker 5: that it's the dumbest thing that I've ever heard. 1789 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,040 Speaker 2: No, don't ever say that. God, don't say that, because 1790 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 2: somebody's going to go hold my beer. We had a 1791 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 2: guy in Pennsylvan who was cleaning his shotgun loaded and 1792 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,439 Speaker 2: his dog jumped on the bed and shot him. Oh, 1793 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,840 Speaker 2: so don't say it's the dumbest thing you've heard today, 1794 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,639 Speaker 2: because that would be the dumbest thing you've heard today. 1795 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:10,679 Speaker 5: Wow. 1796 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah the dog. 1797 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:18,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to smell he kill him? Did he 1798 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,600 Speaker 5: kill us? I don't know the whole story there, but 1799 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 5: the guy got shot, so oh yeah, I don't know. Yeah, 1800 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,400 Speaker 5: that's that's pretty dumb anyway. So this idea was floated 1801 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,640 Speaker 5: by our president and the administration showing the comparison of 1802 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:37,120 Speaker 5: the thirty year mortgage with Franklin Delano Roosevelt and a 1803 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:41,760 Speaker 5: proposed fifty year mortgage a lah Trump. I guess. So 1804 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 5: the fh FA, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and the 1805 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 5: director he said, you know what, we are working on 1806 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 5: a fifty year mortgage, and it's a complete game changer. 1807 01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:56,560 Speaker 7: Is it? 1808 01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,960 Speaker 3: Okay, you want to go back to two thousand and eight, Well, 1809 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:01,640 Speaker 3: that's the thing. 1810 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,560 Speaker 5: So the aim and the thought process, and if you 1811 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,400 Speaker 5: dig into it a little bit deeper from someone that 1812 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:14,160 Speaker 5: is our age fifty year mortgage, we will not see 1813 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 5: the end of that fifty year mortgage. If we try 1814 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,679 Speaker 5: to live to the end of the fifty year mortgage, 1815 01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:23,679 Speaker 5: we're basically passing on debt to our children or whoever 1816 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,360 Speaker 5: ends up selling the property that we own with a 1817 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,280 Speaker 5: fifty year mortgage on it. So, you know, just if 1818 01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 5: you're thinking long term, thirty years is a long time. 1819 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:36,720 Speaker 5: Even depends on how much you like your kids. I guess, well, 1820 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:38,960 Speaker 5: I suppose if you want to leave them with a 1821 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 5: whole budge of debt, that's fine. But the purpose of 1822 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,680 Speaker 5: this thought process of the fifty year mortgage. The aim 1823 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 5: is to relieve monthly payments, so having payments be less 1824 01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,120 Speaker 5: and improve access to home ownership. But here's the thing. 1825 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 5: We have a low supply of homes. So that's not 1826 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 5: going to change mad because the supply and demand issue 1827 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,880 Speaker 5: is not going to change magically because we have a 1828 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,760 Speaker 5: fifty year mortgage. And if whose bright idea is going 1829 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,719 Speaker 5: from the average right now is a thirty year mortgage 1830 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,559 Speaker 5: and jump all the way to fifty that's like going 1831 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 5: you know, to eleventy billion. I mean, it just seems 1832 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 5: so far away. 1833 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,719 Speaker 3: If it's forty your mortgages, we were like, okay, fifteen 1834 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,160 Speaker 3: to thirty year right. 1835 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 5: And there have been talk of forty year mortgages, but 1836 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 5: I've never seen anybody use one, and I don't know 1837 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 5: how many products are available in the lending world that 1838 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 5: offer forty year mortgages. You know, here's the thing, you're 1839 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,880 Speaker 5: going to pay more. Everybody complains about, you know, the 1840 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 5: cost of interest rates. Mortgage interest rates are high. Guess 1841 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,720 Speaker 5: what with the fifty year mortgage, your interest rate is 1842 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,600 Speaker 5: going to be higher than it would be with a 1843 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:52,719 Speaker 5: thirty year mortgage. 1844 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:53,280 Speaker 6: Why is it? 1845 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,600 Speaker 5: Well, because you know what it's it's more of a 1846 01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,400 Speaker 5: risk for the lender. You know, it's all about risk. 1847 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,880 Speaker 5: It's a higher risk for the lender. A fifty year 1848 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,920 Speaker 5: mortgage means the lender has their money tied up for 1849 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:10,600 Speaker 5: fifty years, So there's more risk for the lender. The 1850 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,840 Speaker 5: lender is not going to take any risk, Are you kidding? 1851 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,880 Speaker 5: And then think about it. So usually when you're in 1852 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,640 Speaker 5: a thirty year mortgage, the first couple of years, not 1853 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:25,160 Speaker 5: couple even the first ten years, you're paying mostly interest. 1854 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 5: You're not really paying down the debt, got it. And 1855 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,640 Speaker 5: so if you think about a fifty year mortgage, just 1856 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 5: double it the first twenty years. Maybe you're not even 1857 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,800 Speaker 5: paying down any debt. So why don't you think about Okay, 1858 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 5: I just thought about this in my brains while we 1859 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 5: were talking, So this should be really good real you know, 1860 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,639 Speaker 5: why not just do an interest only loan because you're 1861 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:54,440 Speaker 5: not building any equity with that, and those products are available. 1862 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:59,760 Speaker 5: An interest only loan, you pay less and you never 1863 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,559 Speaker 5: ever basically as you either have to sell the property 1864 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,880 Speaker 5: or you have to get a different product to get 1865 01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 5: another loan, but you never pay down the debt. So 1866 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 5: if you take it two hundred thousand dollars loan and 1867 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,160 Speaker 5: you only and you're an interest only loan, you just 1868 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,599 Speaker 5: pay the interest on that loan, you're never. 1869 01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,240 Speaker 3: Paying back the isn't that just rent? 1870 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:24,320 Speaker 7: No? 1871 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,000 Speaker 5: But you still own the property? 1872 01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 3: No you don't. The bank owns the property. 1873 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:32,920 Speaker 5: Well okay, all right, well technically you are right you're 1874 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,840 Speaker 5: paying rent. No, you're right, absolutely. 1875 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 2: Well what's the advantage of buying a house if you're 1876 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,559 Speaker 2: just paying the interest? I it's amazing that they can 1877 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,800 Speaker 2: get away with this kind of stuff. 1878 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,120 Speaker 5: Well, and I don't know that they will, you know, 1879 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 5: I don't know that this is actually going to become 1880 01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,639 Speaker 5: a sing when you look at it. So how much 1881 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,800 Speaker 5: are you going to save? Right, that's the big question. 1882 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 5: So the thought process is younger buyers can't afford a mortgage, 1883 01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,680 Speaker 5: so let's get them into a fifty year mortgage. If 1884 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 5: you're twenty five years old, you know you'll be seventy five. 1885 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,200 Speaker 5: You're not going to pay it off. And here's the thing, 1886 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,799 Speaker 5: how long do you stay in your home? I always 1887 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,760 Speaker 5: tell people, even with a regular thirty year mortgage or 1888 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:19,040 Speaker 5: a fifteen or whatever, when you're buying a home, your 1889 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,800 Speaker 5: best bet is to stay in that home at least 1890 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,920 Speaker 5: five years so that you can build some equity. 1891 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:25,280 Speaker 3: Got it. 1892 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,560 Speaker 5: Here's the thing. Fifty year mortgage, You're never going to 1893 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,519 Speaker 5: build equity. You are passing deck to future generations. You're 1894 01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,680 Speaker 5: never going to get ahead. You're always going to be 1895 01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,840 Speaker 5: chasing your tail. And that's the one thing that makes 1896 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:45,519 Speaker 5: me absolutely crazy that anybody in an administrative with a brain. Yeah, 1897 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,200 Speaker 5: and I know that everybody, everybody in my industry is 1898 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,560 Speaker 5: just going absolutely berserk. It's a great talking point. And 1899 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 5: the savings isn't that much. 1900 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,639 Speaker 2: It's like, so I saw someone do the maths on this, Michelle, 1901 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,519 Speaker 2: and I think like a half million dollar loan. It 1902 01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 2: was I think it was basically two hundred dollars less 1903 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 2: a month, I mean two hundreds, I mean fifty bucks 1904 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,559 Speaker 2: a week. You look at well, you know you're paying, 1905 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,479 Speaker 2: but you're just paying the bank. It's like having a 1906 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,479 Speaker 2: credit card never paying the balance off. 1907 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,639 Speaker 5: Correct. Absolutely, it is that you're constantly chasing your tail. 1908 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,639 Speaker 5: So if you have a thirty year mortgage at six 1909 01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,760 Speaker 5: point twenty five percent, your monthly payment is going to be. 1910 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 5: This is for a four hundred thousand dollars home. So 1911 01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 5: just try to do some easy math. So a four 1912 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,760 Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars loan, which is pretty typical, maybe a 1913 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,120 Speaker 5: little high for our area, but anyway, so thirty years, 1914 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,240 Speaker 5: six and a quarter monthly payment is about twenty four 1915 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:47,599 Speaker 5: hundred dollars. Over thirty years, you end up paying about 1916 01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,920 Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty seven thousand. So you're doubling what 1917 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,320 Speaker 5: because if you make every payment, if you include all 1918 01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,639 Speaker 5: the interest on a four hundred thousand dollars loan, you're 1919 01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:01,559 Speaker 5: paying four hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars in interest, 1920 01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,400 Speaker 5: all right, And you're thinking about this, it's like, Wow, 1921 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,519 Speaker 5: that four hundred thousand dollars home is really worth eight 1922 01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:12,040 Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars at least, it's what you're putting into 1923 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:16,040 Speaker 5: it now. If you do a fifty year mortgage, and 1924 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,400 Speaker 5: the estimate would be about six point eight percent, so 1925 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:24,280 Speaker 5: about a half a percent higher. Your monthly payments are 1926 01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 5: twenty two hundred, so that saves you two hundred dollars 1927 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:36,040 Speaker 5: a month. Okay, spread out over six hundred months, you're 1928 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 5: paying one point three three zero over a million dollars 1929 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,560 Speaker 5: one point three million dollars for a loan for a 1930 01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,120 Speaker 5: four hundred thousand dollars house. 1931 01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:49,640 Speaker 2: The other side of this, too is a lot of 1932 01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,519 Speaker 2: people will tap into home equity in order to fix 1933 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,760 Speaker 2: it up, because houses, while they break the fixed stuff, 1934 01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:55,320 Speaker 2: where you going to. 1935 01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,560 Speaker 3: Tap into that money in the future, Well, there won't be. 1936 01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 5: You won't. 1937 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,880 Speaker 2: You won't have the money. It's kind of like we saw, 1938 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,000 Speaker 2: you know, like the subprime auto market. For example, right 1939 01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,400 Speaker 2: car everything's going up with inflesh and so car prices 1940 01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:10,360 Speaker 2: go up, so order dealers just tack on extra months 1941 01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,599 Speaker 2: to the loan for if you're less credit worthy, will 1942 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,719 Speaker 2: just stretch it over five, six, eight years or whatever 1943 01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,920 Speaker 2: it is. And so just like the housing crisis in 1944 01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,880 Speaker 2: a eight or with kind of cars a little less 1945 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 2: than a home because of property values and such. But 1946 01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:25,880 Speaker 2: nonetheless does go okay, well I repossess it or I'll 1947 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,400 Speaker 2: turn my keys in and the lenders wind up getting 1948 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 2: big losses as well. And if you trade your car 1949 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:31,720 Speaker 2: and you can't afford a new one because you know 1950 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,880 Speaker 2: more than your car's worth, how's that different than we 1951 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:34,680 Speaker 2: did in O eight? 1952 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,040 Speaker 3: Isn't that setting this up for that? 1953 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:41,639 Speaker 5: I believe, in my opinion, in my humble opinion, it's 1954 01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 5: setting up future generations to fail. And you know, there 1955 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:51,360 Speaker 5: are already future generations, our kids, our kids' kids, they're 1956 01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:55,679 Speaker 5: already at a disadvantage to a certain extent financially because 1957 01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,720 Speaker 5: the price of you know, the price of entry is 1958 01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:03,400 Speaker 5: so high. This is this is not the answer. A 1959 01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:07,599 Speaker 5: fifty year mortgage is not the answer. Now, some people, 1960 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,599 Speaker 5: you know, you may hear people in my industry even saying, oh, 1961 01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,760 Speaker 5: well you can just refinance. Yeah, that's more money in 1962 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,519 Speaker 5: the pockets of lenders. 1963 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 8: Right. 1964 01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,719 Speaker 5: Every time you refinance, you got to pay closing costs. 1965 01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,400 Speaker 5: Most of the time. Again, there are some lenders who 1966 01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,639 Speaker 5: will waive that if you do it within a certain 1967 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,599 Speaker 5: period of time, or some lenders will you know, they'll 1968 01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:35,479 Speaker 5: offer some incentives or lower but no matter what, you're 1969 01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,720 Speaker 5: not if you get a refin aanswer, you're gonna get 1970 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:41,120 Speaker 5: a new loan on a property. At any point you're 1971 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,280 Speaker 5: gonna pay. You're gonna pay extra, and that extra will 1972 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:49,920 Speaker 5: add up to months worth of monthly payments. So you're 1973 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:53,560 Speaker 5: saving two hundred dollars a month, But yet you're not 1974 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,240 Speaker 5: building equity. You're not building wealth. And that's the one 1975 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,360 Speaker 5: thing that I've always been able to say is when 1976 01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:03,040 Speaker 5: you buy, it's the greatest investment of your life, when 1977 01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:03,919 Speaker 5: you buy property. 1978 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,080 Speaker 2: It feels like Michelle, that this is going to be 1979 01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,439 Speaker 2: one of those almost like the payday lenders and to 1980 01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,559 Speaker 2: get a bad report, and people need payday lenders. I'm 1981 01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:14,720 Speaker 2: not knocking it. I get what it is, but you know, 1982 01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,840 Speaker 2: rent to own schemes and stuff like that as wells. 1983 01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,559 Speaker 2: People are just gonna look at the monthly cost, go hey, 1984 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm saving two hundred dollars a month, sign me up, 1985 01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,800 Speaker 2: and then they'll get hamstring with this loan and then 1986 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,680 Speaker 2: later complain about it. So I think this might be 1987 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:27,800 Speaker 2: predatory in a way, And I hate using that term 1988 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,000 Speaker 2: because it's so thrown around these days as well. I 1989 01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,000 Speaker 2: mean all loans feel I mean college loans feel predatory 1990 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:33,200 Speaker 2: to me. 1991 01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:33,960 Speaker 7: So what do I know. 1992 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 2: But in that case, you're gonna I think you're gonna 1993 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,320 Speaker 2: have that. People going, wow, you know, I just want 1994 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,200 Speaker 2: to have a safe place for as crime continues in 1995 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,640 Speaker 2: urban areas, for example, people going, look, if I can 1996 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:44,439 Speaker 2: get this for two hundred less a month, I don't 1997 01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,439 Speaker 2: care that it's a fifty year loan. I just want out, sure, 1998 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,200 Speaker 2: But you wonder if that sets them up for success 1999 01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:49,759 Speaker 2: or failure. 2000 01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,479 Speaker 5: Well, the one thing is, and I'm glad we're talking 2001 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,240 Speaker 5: about it because when we were getting those predatory loans 2002 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:01,320 Speaker 5: twenty years ago, when I first gotten to the business, 2003 01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:02,960 Speaker 5: and when I was trying to figure out how in 2004 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:07,439 Speaker 5: the world are buyers getting money back when they buy 2005 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,439 Speaker 5: a home, because there was they didn't have to have 2006 01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 5: a down payment, they didn't have to have there was. 2007 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:16,360 Speaker 5: It was a setup to failed situation. Now, and you're right, 2008 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,000 Speaker 5: it's it's like buying a car. You know, they're not 2009 01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:22,880 Speaker 5: going to tell you the big numbers because those are scary. Yeah, 2010 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,880 Speaker 5: this is a car for forty thousand dollars or whatever. 2011 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,720 Speaker 5: How much can you afford to pay? Per month, and 2012 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,880 Speaker 5: then they're going to put you in a product that 2013 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,200 Speaker 5: will get you to that number, But then they won't 2014 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:38,679 Speaker 5: tell you all of you know, you'll have to really 2015 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,800 Speaker 5: ask some hard questions as to what does that mean? 2016 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:44,800 Speaker 5: You know, Okay, you got me to my number. I 2017 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:49,519 Speaker 5: can afford it today, But what happens if I lose 2018 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,960 Speaker 5: my job? What happens? Do I have any equity if 2019 01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:57,680 Speaker 5: I need to go and resell and sell my property? No, 2020 01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 5: you're not going to if if hope fully that home 2021 01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,599 Speaker 5: has gone up in value, if you've been and there's 2022 01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,599 Speaker 5: a lot of ifs, if you've been in that home 2023 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:11,880 Speaker 5: long enough, if you, like I said, it's to me, 2024 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,040 Speaker 5: it is a setup for failure. And guess what, people 2025 01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,240 Speaker 5: are going to stay in their homes longer. There's not 2026 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,600 Speaker 5: going to be the turnover that we need for younger generations. 2027 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,600 Speaker 5: So right now, everybody's stuck in that home with a 2028 01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:29,840 Speaker 5: three percent mortgage that we got whatever five ten years ago, 2029 01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,320 Speaker 5: and nobody wants to get rid of that three three 2030 01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,760 Speaker 5: percent mortgage. So they're holding onto their home and they 2031 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,600 Speaker 5: don't want to buy something for seven percent mortgage. So 2032 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,480 Speaker 5: what is this going to do. It's going to paralyze 2033 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,040 Speaker 5: our country. I'm sorry, I'm going to get a little 2034 01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:45,840 Speaker 5: fired up about this. 2035 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,799 Speaker 3: I think I love it. I like feisty Michelle. 2036 01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:53,639 Speaker 2: That's the that's my girl right there, smart cookie, my wife, 2037 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,479 Speaker 2: Michelle Sloan with Remax Time and Sloan Cells homes dot 2038 01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:00,280 Speaker 2: Com Open House Show. That's on the iHeartRadio app there 2039 01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,679 Speaker 2: or Apple wherever you get your podcast, and of course 2040 01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,280 Speaker 2: uh on YouTube as well too. So thanks again, love 2041 01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,920 Speaker 2: your good stuff. Let's not do a fifty year mortgage 2042 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,000 Speaker 2: unless our kids really piss us off, and then we're. 2043 01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:11,240 Speaker 3: Gonna do it. 2044 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,080 Speaker 5: We're gonna do like three of them. 2045 01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:14,360 Speaker 3: You can one hundred year. 2046 01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:20,439 Speaker 2: Mortgage come with its generation, all right, don't upset mom? 2047 01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:20,960 Speaker 6: All right? 2048 01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,240 Speaker 2: Love you gotta go see I gotta get news in. 2049 01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:27,639 Speaker 2: We've got uh Willie standing by. I believe Willy's here today. 2050 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:29,600 Speaker 2: Maybe not, I don't know. We'll find out who it 2051 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,120 Speaker 2: is coming up at twelve oh six here on the 2052 01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,559 Speaker 2: Home of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred wtibity since 2053 01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:34,760 Speaker 2: now