1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Pastor Chad. Good morning to you, sir. I hope you're will. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Good morn Tom. 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. 4 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: How about yourself? 5 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Doing great? No complaints? You know Christmas and you and 6 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: I have talked about this. We talked about it right 7 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: and before Thanksgiving on how holidays can be very, very 8 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: stressful to people. But you suggest that actually Christmas time 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: can help us deal with stress. 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: Well, definitely can. 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: And even if you have a cursory knowledge of Christmas 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 3: and the story of what God did at Christmas, it's 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: a story that God came and adapted himself to us. 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: So think about God as a multi dimensional being beyond 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: time and space, and he was willing to come in 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: the form of a child, and just think, if that's true. Right, 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: I believe it's true, But if someone doesn't. If it 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 3: was true that the God who made all the universe 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: and holds all the planets and all the atoms adapted 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: to you in such a dramatic way, then you might say, wow, 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: I mean, idd did that for me, and maybe I 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: could adapt slightly to my crazy uncle or my cousin 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: or my relative is driving me crazy. So it's kind 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: of a call to adapt, which is if God adapted 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: to me, maybe I can adapt to others. 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: It's also call for reconciliation. 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 3: Where you think about what family doesn't need a little 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: bit more reconciliation. Somebody not to hold some bitterness, somebody 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 3: to maybe get over something significantly happened, but it's time 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: to move on. While the whole story of Christmas is 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: the story of reconciliation, God wanted to reconcile with us, 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: and honestly, we weren't taking the first step, so he 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: took the first step. I had that I haven't talked 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: to my sister in law for fifteen years after a 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: big conflict that happened. I'd reconcile it with my brother, 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: as we mentioned four or five months ago, but not 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: my sister in law and my wife and I decided, 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: you know what, this is the year we're going to 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: do it. And honestly, because it's the right thing to do, 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: not quite the motivation we needed. 41 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: It'll be good for you. 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: Maybe what really motivated us to hit FaceTime video and 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: have that conversation was, you know what, God adapted, and 44 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: God reconciled with us when we did a whole lot 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: worse to him. Let's do it and so after about 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: an hour conversation, for the first time in fifteen years, 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: you know, we've now got a full path for families 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: to get together again for Christmas. 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: And it was tough. 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: It was a tough conversation, and yet we felt like 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: the spirit of Christmas is I want to do unto 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: others what God. 53 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Did to me. 54 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: I want to tack a couple of well known actors 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: that you've talked about recently in some of your sermons 56 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: here and around Christmas. Let's start with Jimmy Stewart and 57 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: his father who sent him Psalm ninety one when he 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: went off to war. And then Jimmy Stewart talking about 59 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: why he got so cheerful during the filming of Its 60 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: A Wonderful Life. 61 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know Jimmy Stewart, we know him often from 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: Its Wonderful Life those other wonderful movies. He was a 63 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: brigadier general as well and disembalming in World War Two, 64 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: and he had a lot of PTSD, so that you 65 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: know shows up in some of the movies. But when 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: he went off to war, his father was a real 67 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: strong Christian believer in God in the Bible, and so 68 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: he sent a little personal note that said, Hey, in 69 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: the middle of this madness, I want you to know 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 3: you can trust God to be your tower, your refuge, 71 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: and the one that will guide you in the midst 72 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: of this. He saved the stem a copy of Psalm 73 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: ninety one. It's kind of the source of strength you 74 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: would have in the middle of the madness of war. 75 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: But after his filming of its wonderful life is that 76 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: moment he gets real tearful. He's crying out God, and 77 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: I need your help. If you're really up there, I 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: just need you to step in. And he later Jimmy 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: Stewart said he just felt in that moment the hearts 80 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: of so many who feel like in life, let alone 81 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: Christmas time that they don't havingyone to turn to, the 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: real sense of emptiness and real sense of you know, 83 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: what's meaning, what's purpose, and that in that moment he 84 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: felt like he was channeling those who didn't have access 85 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: to that purpose and really felt that and he realized 86 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: that's really the call of Christmas, is that we all 87 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: are calling out for God to be with us. And 88 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: even one of Jesus's nicknames is Immanuel, which means God 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: with us. If you're going through grieving this Christmas and 90 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: you need some comfort. God with us will be your 91 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: comfort if you're looking for someone who can take the 92 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: manure of life, and life certainly shows a play and 93 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: manure at us and turn into fertilizer for new growth. 94 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: And that's a story of Christmas. 95 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: And he's even born into a cave or an animal 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: stall with manure everywhere, and look at the incredible story 97 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: of purpose and meaning that he brings out of the 98 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: manure that he's born into. 99 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: You know. 100 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Recently, Kevin Kostner, he just released a documentary on Christmas 101 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: where he talks about his faith and you can find 102 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: this on Disney Plus, but basically talk about how he 103 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: walked through the entire Christmas story from start to finish. 104 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, really interesting. 105 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: It's a documentary and then Nancy's talking. There's some scenes 106 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: that things are acted out, and in general it was 107 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: really good. One he begins by talking about his first 108 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: acting debut. What's playing an angel or playing one of 109 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: the wise men in a Nativity scene. He had one 110 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: big line, hark, and he missed it because his turmine 111 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: kept falling over his head. He said his love of 112 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: acting began there and he kept just periodically through the play, 113 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: saying hark again again, because you know, I missed the 114 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 3: big moment. 115 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: But he kind of walks through that. 116 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: Many people have thought that Christmas is a is a 117 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: miss or is a nice story, like a long time 118 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: ago in a galaxy far far away. He kind of 119 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 3: roots it in the history and shows this really happened. 120 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: It happened in the facts. He shows you kind of 121 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: what was going on during that time period. One of 122 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: the things he highlights is King Herod, and King Herod 123 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: is like a footnote in the Christmas story, and yet 124 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: King Herod is probably one of the most powerful men. 125 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: Who've ever lived. 126 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: They did a great job of describing this historic figure. 127 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: If you've ever been to Israel or heard of Israel, 128 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: you know the Jewish Temple is built on this giant 129 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: mount that was built by King Herod, the guy trying 130 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: to kill Jesus. 131 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: Masada. 132 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of or seen pictures of Masada 133 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: massive rocket by the dead sea. The guy built eleven 134 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 3: swimming pools and a fully functional sauna in the middle 135 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: of a desert at six pc. Guy was an unbelievable engineer. 136 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: He ran this spice factory. I've been to the Herod's 137 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: spice factory, and actually the Wiseman would have gone right 138 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: past that spice factory as part of the trade routes. 139 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: He also built this massive place called Cesri and maritime. 140 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: Bottom line is they did a great job of describing 141 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: him and showing the evidence of Herod as a historic figure, 142 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 3: that Jesus was born to the days of guy was 143 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: the most powerful man in the world, probably next to 144 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: the Caesar at the time, probably one of those wealthy 145 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: people who ever lived. And he's the one trying to 146 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: kill Jesus. And then they kind of get into his 147 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: mania and all historians show what a maniac he is, 148 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: so scared somebody's gonna take his kingdom from him. He 149 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: killed off his son. They got a scene in the 150 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: documentary where it shows him killing off his son in 151 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: the in the in the hot tub together which he 152 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: killed many of his sons and many of his wives. 153 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: And what of his wives throws herself off, I think 154 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: it's Masada, and kills herself rather than stay with her husband. 155 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: That's also an active there. They want you to see 156 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: this guy who's going after Jesus was tyrannical and was 157 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: suspicious and paranoid. So when those wise men show up 158 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: and say, hey, good news, there's a new king in town. 159 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: I mean, this is like the worst guy you could 160 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: ever say that to. And they also show that, you 161 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: think in the Christmas story we kind of have all 162 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: this nostalgia around it, but there's a lot of tragedy. 163 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he then kills off all the boys in 164 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: Bethlehem trying. 165 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: To get after Jesus. So I thought they did a mess. 166 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: This incredible job of showing that God was born into 167 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: this world with pain and suffering and difficulty. He's on 168 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: the run from Herod he had. In the middle of that, 169 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: God enters into our pain and shows that he's willing 170 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: to not. 171 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: Watch from a distance. 172 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: But as John Osborne used to say in her song, 173 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: you know what, God was one of us. 174 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: He became the story. 175 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: And so then you get to see Mary and Joseph 176 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: kind of what was like in their lives during those days. 177 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: It gives you a little cultural feel for what it 178 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: was like for their patrol the period, how devastated Joseph 179 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: was when he heard the news and the angel pierce him. 180 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: The really great historic and inspirational pieces to it, and 181 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: quite frankly toward the end, Kevin Costler says, many people 182 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: believe that now he died ROAs from the dead. 183 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: And he says, I'm one of those, So I was. 184 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: Surprised, and how kind of hapt there he was and 185 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: articulating his belief and faith in Jesus' birth, his death, 186 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: and his resurrection. 187 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Well, for those who are non believers, and look, there 188 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: are a lot of them out there driving around right 189 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: now that might roll their eyes and all that kind 190 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: of thing. But one thing that cannot be disputed is 191 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: that Jesus was a real person who walked this earth 192 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: just like you and I. And if you just read 193 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: about the way he lived his life, and he really 194 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: only ministered of his thirty three years on this earth, 195 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: he really only ministered, I think for about three years. 196 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: So even if you don't believe in, let's say, the resurrection, okay, 197 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: and you think a lot of this stuff is just 198 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: total nonsense, it's a fairy tale, what cannot be disputed 199 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: is that Jesus did live in this world and the 200 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: things that he did while he was here. All of us, 201 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: believer or non believer, can take a lot out of it, 202 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: especially during this time of the year. 203 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: Well, with that a doubt and if you're just a 204 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: facts person again, I see myself as a philosopher and 205 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: a facts guy. You know the Great Isaiah Scroll. We 206 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: have a copy of that because it does he scrolls 207 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: at one hundred and twenty five BC. We know it's 208 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: everything written in Isaiah written at seven hundred BC, but 209 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: we have a complete copy of one twenty five BC. 210 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: That's a fact of history. 211 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: And in that book one hundred years before Jesus, we 212 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: have a copy of it. It predicts he will be 213 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 3: born into the land of Zebulin enough tally that's the 214 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: area need of ser Galley, That's where I'm side would come, 215 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: where he's going to live. How he's going to be born, 216 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: born of a virgin, predicted one hundred years in advance. 217 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: Who's going to come visit him, Rulers and kings from 218 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: a non Jewish nations, bringing specific gifts of gold and 219 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: of frankinsense that happens. Specifically, he'll be died by being pierced, 220 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: you know, crucifixion. He'll be killed between other criminals. All 221 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: of these are very specific, very detailed predictions. We have 222 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: the writings and the facts of where he's going to live, 223 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: how he's going to die, what he's going to talk, 224 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: how he's going to talk, what his message is going 225 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 3: to be. So I would just say, if you're a 226 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: person who's into puzzles or archaeology or facts, this is 227 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: more than just a story. There are actual concrete evidence 228 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: that one can look at and one can say, Wow, 229 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: not only do he live an inspiring life, the life 230 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: I wish I could be capable of living, but also 231 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 3: the facts of history push me to look at the 232 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: preponderance of evidence and say, I need to wrestle with 233 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: whether or not this really happened, because how in the 234 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: world do you predict in that level specificity that many 235 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: details about any one human being hundreds of years in advance. 236 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: Well, it's just so inspiring this time of year, and 237 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: all of us have the things we have to deal with, 238 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: whether it's, as you mentioned earlier, somebody in the family 239 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: that we've had issues with, and we're concerned about what 240 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: might happen around the dinner table, or what might happen 241 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: if we get into a discussion about this or that 242 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. But you know, this 243 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: is just such a wonderful conversation to have this time 244 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: of year and really every day of every year. So 245 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: I wish you and your family, Pastor Chad, a very 246 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: very merry Christmas, and can't wait to be with you 247 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve. 248 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, all ten services, we'll see it. 249 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: Well, no kidding, all ten of them. They got going on, 250 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Pastor Chad Oven. We call it plain glass, stained glass. 251 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: We do it every single week.