Speaker 1: Don't want to be in Americaniti Scott Flow Show.
Speaker 2: This is seven hundred WLW on this election day where
Speaker 2: we find out the future makeup the future of the
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati. It's a big one here with the
Speaker 2: mayoral race being decided between Aftab Pureval and Corey Bowman,
Speaker 2: and of course city council the twenty six people are running.
Speaker 2: Later on the show, Mike Wiener, I was sorry, Mark Weiner,
Speaker 2: let me try that again. Aaron Weiner, my name is
Speaker 2: messed up this morning. It's the time change and the
Speaker 2: lack of caffeine. I'm gonna go with that. Aaron Weiner's
Speaker 2: on his consul candidate. We'll talk to him in the
Speaker 2: ten o'clock or a teno six this morning. I mean again,
Speaker 2: just one of the many people who are vying for
Speaker 2: nine seats to change the makeup I you know, projecting here.
Speaker 2: I think Aftab wins. Well, interesting to see how much
Speaker 2: Corey Bowman does and bites into that lead. And I
Speaker 2: think Aftab's feeling it for sure from a really really
Speaker 2: good fight in valiant fight Corey Bowman. But you know,
Speaker 2: pushing that boulder up the hill in deep blue Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: that's a tough one. I think that I could be wrong,
Speaker 2: but it feels to me like counsel of the one.
Speaker 2: They're the ones in jeopardy at this point too, because
Speaker 2: people are feeling the pain and the crime and generally
Speaker 2: make people held accountable, if not the mayor, certainly counsel.
Speaker 2: And it fits in too because this is kind of
Speaker 2: like the October surprise, if you will, actually the November surprise,
Speaker 2: and that is the shooting on Saturday, four people shot
Speaker 2: outside Privy Nightclub and OTR are at one o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning, and of course you know the one in
Speaker 2: Carthage as well, and you know when seven people are
Speaker 2: shot in one dead, that generally gets people's attention. And
Speaker 2: it's just a steady drumbeat of violence. I shared on
Speaker 2: my social feed Facebook and at X at Scott Sloane
Speaker 2: video of a man who found a gun outside Privy
Speaker 2: Nightclub literally hours after the crime scene tape was cleared,
Speaker 2: and it's so, I guess, indicative of what the situation
Speaker 2: is right now and how dire it is in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: you know, handguns, maybe even using the crime or laying
Speaker 2: literally steps away from where the investigation was and joining
Speaker 2: the show this morning, is a man who founded the
Speaker 2: gun and we're going to not use his name by
Speaker 2: requests because of well, the people involved here makes I
Speaker 2: would do this thing.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. How are you good?
Speaker 4: How you doing dood?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fine. Appreciate the time you finally what time?
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 3: You live right around there. Let's set that up to you.
Speaker 2: It's not like you know, you're outside the city and
Speaker 2: just happened to be walking down the street.
Speaker 3: You live like near there, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I live at block away, I mean to established kind
Speaker 6: of you know who I am, And I've lived literally
Speaker 6: a block away for fifteen years. So I moved down
Speaker 6: to over the Ryne fifteen years ago, and you know,
Speaker 6: I kind of had this this business idea that I
Speaker 6: was going to start buying abandoned property and fix them
Speaker 6: up and rint them as apartments and you know, kind
Speaker 6: of contributing to the you know, the presidence that you
Speaker 6: know a lot of people have seen the neighborhood undergoing,
Speaker 6: and that's exactly what I did. So I've seen I've
Speaker 6: seen it all, you know, I've you moved.
Speaker 2: There for opportunities, like, hey, you know what, there's money
Speaker 2: to made. Fifteen years ago, this great renaissance which we
Speaker 2: need to long overdue. I've lived here for over twenty years,
Speaker 2: and in downtown was nothing for many, many years, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we have this renaissance downtown. You
Speaker 2: want to be part of that makes some money investing
Speaker 2: in the neighborhoods. Everybody wins.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was it was cool living, you know, it
Speaker 6: still is cool sometimes living and over there one I
Speaker 6: mean I live, you know, literally right next to I
Speaker 6: was there before rhyine Geist, which is kind of crazy
Speaker 6: to think about. It was just an abandoned warehouse when
Speaker 6: I moved in, and uh, you know, a block from
Speaker 6: Family Market, and you know, really what's happened is so
Speaker 6: when I you know, when when a block is kind
Speaker 6: of undergoing a resurgence or a renovation, a lot of
Speaker 6: times what happens is there's abandoned properties. And then what
Speaker 6: is critical is what what becomes of those abandoned properties?
Speaker 6: Right what goes into that storefront or into that property.
Speaker 6: And you know, in my situation, like ryan Geist, going
Speaker 6: in across the street was critical to like making my
Speaker 6: investment or my living experience a good one.
Speaker 2: And now now that feels like it's in jeopard does
Speaker 2: feel like it's going the other way. We're reverting back
Speaker 2: to when you first moved in. It looks like we're
Speaker 2: taking steps backward relative to what's happening, literally steps away
Speaker 2: from where you live.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so let me paint a picture. So north of
Speaker 6: Liberty Elm Street, which is where I live, let me
Speaker 6: kind of paint a picture of like some of the
Speaker 6: most recent developments. So we've got the thing that Privy
Speaker 6: was a club before. So when I first moved there
Speaker 6: was a school, and after the school it became E nineteen,
Speaker 6: which was a gay club and they were awesome. We
Speaker 6: loved them, never any police problems. After that, it became
Speaker 6: Posh Nightclub or Posh, which was like an event center.
Speaker 6: I guess you could ran or have birthday parties there
Speaker 6: and then and then that closed and then that's when
Speaker 6: it was sold to the current ownership and became Privy.
Speaker 6: And so not only Privy went in. And then I
Speaker 6: don't know if you followed the shooting at stagger Lee's
Speaker 6: was up in Clifton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the individual fire went back and it was like
Speaker 2: a down on a teenager fourteen fifteen with a gun
Speaker 2: shoots his dude, tries to jack his phone or jack
Speaker 2: him he should. The guy pulls a gun out himself,
Speaker 2: fires and the teenager ran a couple of steps and fell
Speaker 2: over dead. Yeah, I remember that, like literally right there.
Speaker 3: You see.
Speaker 6: So they closed in Clinton and now they're they're my
Speaker 6: new neighbor directly across the street. So now they're the
Speaker 6: liquor store. And that is basically backing up to the VOA,
Speaker 6: which is one hundred and forty four bed prison, just
Speaker 6: a bunch of sex offenders and murderers. And I don't
Speaker 6: if you remember the Anthony Kirkland story when you know
Speaker 6: he murdered you know, he was supposed to be the
Speaker 6: VLA that the jail thought he was.
Speaker 7: At the VOA.
Speaker 4: The VOA thought he was in jail, his.
Speaker 6: Lost track of the serial killer, and he went and
Speaker 6: murdered a little girl. Yep. So anyway, and then you
Speaker 6: know directly you know where I live. They're very controversial
Speaker 6: forty four unit permanent support of housing that city council.
Speaker 6: You know, it actually went all the way to the
Speaker 6: High Supreme Court, I believe because the lot that they're
Speaker 6: building this single was only zone for twelve units and
Speaker 6: they are trying to put forty four chronically addicted, homeless,
Speaker 6: you know, alcohol addicted, directly next to a nightclub, directly
Speaker 6: next to a liquor store, directly next to privy.
Speaker 2: There's temptatious tell you you're trying to get clean, you're
Speaker 2: trying to get sober.
Speaker 3: We're trying to rehabilitate these people.
Speaker 2: And we've put a liquor store in a nightclub right
Speaker 2: and for the literally steps steps away.
Speaker 6: And literally like and then I'm sitting there and you know,
Speaker 6: I've got you know, four and five neighbors and this
Speaker 6: is what we've been watching for the last year. It's
Speaker 6: just like, you know, we were doing good and you know,
Speaker 6: we're we're all taking doing cleaning up our leaves and
Speaker 6: taking out the.
Speaker 8: Trash and doing the job.
Speaker 6: And then and then there's one decision after the next,
Speaker 6: and there's.
Speaker 3: Like like there's no planning there whatsoever?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 2: Like, Hey, we have a we have a diabetes treatment
Speaker 2: center here and we put in a dairy queen in
Speaker 2: the food court.
Speaker 3: Well, what the hell are we doing here?
Speaker 6: And I want you to know, like We've called like
Speaker 6: like city city Hall in the mayor, Like I've called
Speaker 6: Aftab's office. I've talked to his assistant, Like I let
Speaker 6: he knows that they're putting a liquor store in directly
Speaker 6: across the street from a permit support of drug addiction.
Speaker 6: How like, so like I want you to know that,
Speaker 6: like this isn't like they're not aware.
Speaker 3: You're making them aware.
Speaker 6: So no, we've we've done our part, you know, We've
Speaker 6: communicated to them and let them know. Like, hey, if
Speaker 6: the goal is to like make this neighborhood better and
Speaker 6: faifer like you know, you're you're you're keep filling this
Speaker 6: bucket up. Okay, you keep selling it up, you keep
Speaker 6: sewing it up. And as we saw this past weekend,
Speaker 6: like the bucket's going to overflow, you know, and and
Speaker 6: and you know it sounds.
Speaker 2: Like to me, it sounds like to me, okay, we're
Speaker 2: just saying yes to everything. There's no sense of planning,
Speaker 2: but it feels good. Hey, let's get a rehab thing.
Speaker 2: This morning on the Scott's Loan Show, I've got the
Speaker 2: man on. I'm remaining anonymous here for for reasons I'm
Speaker 2: pretty obvious to everyone is that this is the guy
Speaker 2: who found the gun. If you haven't seen the video,
Speaker 2: this has found the Privy Nights Club shooting on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Early Sunday morning, gets up for a walk in his neighborhood,
Speaker 2: lives right around the block, and uh, you can see
Speaker 2: it on my X feet at Scott Sloan and you
Speaker 2: see the gun there right in the grass.
Speaker 3: So let's segue to that.
Speaker 2: Now, you walk for a morning walk, and I think
Speaker 2: the background is important because you know you're putting money
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. Things are great for a while. Privy
Speaker 2: comes in. Maybe some of these are decisions, and that's
Speaker 2: been under the left, this current administration. This isn't a Cranley,
Speaker 2: this is under AFTAB All this stuff has going on
Speaker 2: because that is the pretext for what happened on Saturday.
Speaker 2: And crime is certainly violent crime, A lot of areas
Speaker 2: is feeling out of control. Certainly property crimes are a
Speaker 2: way out of control. At this point, I think those
Speaker 2: two things are tied together. You're walking along at Sunday.
Speaker 2: But how many hours after they pulled the crime scene
Speaker 2: tape off of the Privy investigation open the street back up,
Speaker 2: would you say that you found that gun liner?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is early. It was probably nine am.
Speaker 6: I didn't even know a shooting had happened. Oh, Tom,
Speaker 6: I was waking up of Sunday morning. I was walking
Speaker 6: down the street and when I walked by the first
Speaker 6: time I made a video, I'd just taken a video.
Speaker 6: We can't stand Privy because it's just been one.
Speaker 8: Thing after the next step for the next at the
Speaker 8: next I took.
Speaker 6: A little video just to show like the trash that
Speaker 6: was outside, you know, I thought that it was going
Speaker 6: to be a good video to have to show like, hey,
Speaker 6: at the end of the night, this is how they
Speaker 6: leave this place, and like this is just one of
Speaker 6: the fifty reasons why, like we hate having to miss neighbor.
Speaker 6: And to turn the corner in my video into the
Speaker 6: alley right in front of you know, the establishment, and
Speaker 6: there was like looked like a murder scene. Like it
Speaker 6: was just like a giant pool of blood and uh.
Speaker 6: And so that was the first time I was like, Okay,
Speaker 6: what happened to here last night? And I got on
Speaker 6: the Citizen app and I saw that four people had
Speaker 6: gotten shot and so so anyway, I looked and kind
Speaker 6: of looked at the Citizen app as to where the
Speaker 6: shooting looked like it took place around Privy, and I
Speaker 6: just walked over there and just sitting right on the
Speaker 6: grass was a handgun. And so I didn't even really
Speaker 6: try to look. I just just there was just sitting
Speaker 6: right there. And so I called the cops and said, hey, like,
Speaker 6: I don't I think you guys like even like look
Speaker 6: for this, but like the pistols sitting right here, it's
Speaker 6: directly this is a whole other topic. But like I
Speaker 6: saw some of the security footage. I actually went and
Speaker 6: talked to the owner, who I've met a few times,
Speaker 6: and he like showed me some of the security footage,
Speaker 6: and like the video is crystal clear. And so if
Speaker 6: they don't make an arrest on this, like I have
Speaker 6: no idea what we're doing.
Speaker 2: How many feet would you say from where you found
Speaker 2: the gun was in proximity to the to the front door.
Speaker 3: Of the club.
Speaker 6: So the shooting happened on the I guess it'd be
Speaker 6: the north end of Privy. There's a door. From what
Speaker 6: he said, there was a group of individuals that were
Speaker 6: trying to come into the club and they didn't want
Speaker 6: to be searched. I will give you this, Privy does
Speaker 6: have really impressive security, but it's the security is so
Speaker 6: impressive that it's it realizes how it makes you realize
Speaker 6: how alarming it is. Like these guys have boldtproof vests on.
Speaker 6: They look like swat swat gear. The guys that are
Speaker 6: like searching you to get into privy.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: So the guys who are on the front door, right,
Speaker 2: the bouncers, they're dressed like paramilitary officers, paramilitary soldiers. Basically,
Speaker 2: I don't normal people like me and you and maybe
Speaker 2: folks listening look at that and go, well, there's a
Speaker 2: place I don't really want to spend my money. And
Speaker 2: if you got a dress like that to keep people out,
Speaker 2: imagine we gets through the door. Imagine what's going on
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, because let's face well, seen this before,
Speaker 2: and this has happened in areas where we've had shootings
Speaker 2: and problems, and it's always this and I again, I
Speaker 2: don't want to false cast false aspersions here, but normally
Speaker 2: there's like, okay, there's the answer for everybody. And then
Speaker 2: the quote unquote VIP area where maybe friends, family, or
Speaker 2: people who are known to the individuals who run the place,
Speaker 2: they kind of go in unchecked that we've seen that
Speaker 2: happen before. You suspect maybe that's what's going on here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So from what I was told, there's a group
Speaker 6: I saw and they looked like they were twenty five
Speaker 6: ish years old. There's maybe five or six guys. They
Speaker 6: didn't want to get searched at the front door, so
Speaker 6: they went over to the side door and then they
Speaker 6: got really mad like when they couldn't get in. And
Speaker 6: so I don't know this series of events, but it
Speaker 6: sounds like they literally just started shooting at the building,
Speaker 6: which is insane. And it just kind of shows you
Speaker 6: the kind of people that Privy is drawing literally to
Speaker 6: my side yard, you know. And again, we've never dealt
Speaker 6: with this with Ryan Geist. We've never dealt with this
Speaker 6: with you know, Tablespoon Cooking Company or Kanji Sushi, like
Speaker 6: just all of our neighbors like this where this is
Speaker 6: the only neighbor we have. And again I want to reiterate,
Speaker 6: like this was a nightclub before now like this was
Speaker 6: a different night and they were fine.
Speaker 4: We love them.
Speaker 2: Because the people who are frequenting know they can get
Speaker 2: in induce maybe some stuff that they can't get away
Speaker 2: with it. Ryan geis to these other places, correct, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 6: And so this was the first weekend where this like
Speaker 6: it became really violent. But we have been calling the
Speaker 6: police and letting the city know for probably six more
Speaker 6: six plus months that like it's every weekend. So what
Speaker 6: happens is, you know, it's a problem. They're always fighting
Speaker 6: outside and then really what happens is when they let
Speaker 6: out at two am, it's just like a stampede of
Speaker 6: noise and violence. And what happens is they don't go
Speaker 6: home when they're at two am, so they like literally
Speaker 6: go outside to their car and they have liquor bottles
Speaker 6: in their cars that they probably bought at stagger Leaves,
Speaker 6: and then they're just blairing their their music, you know,
Speaker 6: just part oh my front yard.
Speaker 3: And if you call nine one way, you call it place,
Speaker 3: what's your response?
Speaker 6: You know, sometimes they come, sometimes they don't. I mean
Speaker 6: literally they'll be blocking Elm Street. I've seen like they're
Speaker 6: like three cars wide just in Elm Street. Girls are
Speaker 6: getting out, they're twerking, making TikTok videos in the middle
Speaker 6: of Elm C Street. It's it's insane.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's.
Speaker 6: Totally insane behavior. It's completely unsafe, and you know, honestly,
Speaker 6: it's gotten to the point where like I have a
Speaker 6: box fan that I sleep with now that it's like
Speaker 6: my only way of like trying attempting to drown out.
Speaker 2: And you complain and they're like, well, there's nothing we
Speaker 2: can do. We're understaffed, we're busy going after people are shooting.
Speaker 2: They're just making noise. When you talk to the mayor's office,
Speaker 2: when you and I know you've done this as a developers,
Speaker 2: a guy who's involved in investing in the city and
Speaker 2: living down there for fifteen years, what's your reaction from
Speaker 2: the mayor?
Speaker 6: So I call And when I call the Mayor's office,
Speaker 6: I get his assistant, you know, like you can't just
Speaker 6: call and talk to him. So she answers and I,
Speaker 6: you know, I tell her, hey, you know, she screens
Speaker 6: the call, Hey what is this about?
Speaker 9: Who are you?
Speaker 6: And I say, hey, you know, my name is X,
Speaker 6: and you know, I'm calling to let you know, you know,
Speaker 6: what's going on in the neighborhood. And it's you know,
Speaker 6: and like he never, he doesn't, he's not going to
Speaker 6: call me. I actually know him. I've met him several times.
Speaker 6: He's actually been in my house before because I interviewed
Speaker 6: him for a video I made for somebody. But so
Speaker 6: I know him, you know, And like I met him,
Speaker 6: and you know, honestly this is off topic. But you know,
Speaker 6: I saw his comment yesterday he made it. I think
Speaker 6: I think it was Channel twelve or somebody got him
Speaker 6: and and he his comment was something along the lines
Speaker 6: of in light of this historically violent behavior, and he
Speaker 6: blamed it on housing, not to comment. You hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, it's all these other factors. You know,
Speaker 2: we just love criminals, criminals what they do. It's like now,
Speaker 2: now we've got criminals that are victims themselves, and so
Speaker 2: you don't understand and like, well, I'd love to see
Speaker 2: his attitude if people were doing that next to his
Speaker 2: house where he was trying to live. But of course
Speaker 2: that's a problem with a lot of these folks, and
Speaker 2: especially progressive like this, is that they live in glass
Speaker 2: houses and then cast dispersions on everyone else who wants
Speaker 2: to clean up the streets. You don't understand the problem.
Speaker 2: It's a problem. It's a problem we live in because
Speaker 2: that crap is not happened. Next after that, pureval, real
Speaker 2: quick before I let you go, because we only got
Speaker 2: a second or two here. You found the gun literally
Speaker 2: hours after the investigation cleared it. Privy, they got the
Speaker 2: crime scene to when you called nine one to one.
Speaker 2: I know they probably didn't tell you they came and
Speaker 2: got the gun. Do we think it was used in
Speaker 2: that shooting? Or this is unrelated? Because you know, I
Speaker 2: think people look at this and go, did they did
Speaker 2: the investigators miss picking that gun up off the street
Speaker 2: or was it used somewhere else or just happened to
Speaker 2: be There's so much gun violence around there that people
Speaker 2: just randomly throw their guns.
Speaker 6: There the zero percent chances gun is not involved in
Speaker 6: the crime. So I don't know if you if you
Speaker 6: want to look on the north side of Privy, there's
Speaker 6: bullet holes all over the cinder block.
Speaker 5: So they just.
Speaker 6: Started shooting up Privy and this gun. I mean, based
Speaker 6: on the bullet hole that I saw in the center
Speaker 6: block and like the angle of them, it looks as
Speaker 6: if they literally shot directly across the street and that's
Speaker 6: where I found the gun.
Speaker 7: And so.
Speaker 6: I mean, how could that gun not be involved?
Speaker 3: How did you miss that?
Speaker 2: That's a bigger question for the police department, is that's
Speaker 2: not a good look?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I agree, And it was kind of weird.
Speaker 6: They just sent one woman officer. She came and just
Speaker 6: like put on gloves, picked it up, and they didn't
Speaker 6: like pick photos or anything. They just she just like
Speaker 6: took it and put in her car and just left
Speaker 6: and it was like okay. And then you know, they
Speaker 6: called the fire department because in the alley there was
Speaker 6: like what looked like a homicide scene. So the fire
Speaker 6: department came and cleaned out all the you know, bleached
Speaker 6: all the blood out of and it was just it
Speaker 6: was a weird morning.
Speaker 2: I was just well, I mean, you're watching you invested
Speaker 2: so much in your neighborhood and now you're seeing it
Speaker 2: fall apart because of these broken policies and promises and
Speaker 2: ideas that people who prey on others are not predatory
Speaker 2: sociopaths and criminals, they're victims themselves, and this is what
Speaker 2: you wind up getting.
Speaker 3: Sadly, Are you thinking of leaving?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 6: I mean that's a good question.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean I'm not gonna, like I'm heavily invested in
Speaker 6: the neighborhood. I'm not going to sell all of my property,
Speaker 6: but like my personal living situation, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 6: get it.
Speaker 4: Topic, I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a way that your safety, security and
Speaker 2: able to sleep for eight I was here crying out loud. Well,
Speaker 2: I gotta go. I'm really late, but I appreciate just
Speaker 2: sending the video and of course your insight to this
Speaker 2: because you're living You're not living the dream, you're living
Speaker 2: the nightmare. All the best to you, thanks.
Speaker 3: Again, yep, thanks you all right.
Speaker 2: Don't want to just keep stay anonymous because he fears
Speaker 2: retribution from the people at the nightclub that he wants
Speaker 2: shutdown your reaction all this on this election day of
Speaker 2: all things five and three, seven four, nine, seven thousand.
Speaker 2: We'll get your thoughts in just minutes slowly. Seven hundred
Speaker 2: WL early Holiday Scott dark on seven hundred wlw oh, yes,
Speaker 2: the time change. You wake up, it's dark outside, you
Speaker 2: get home from work, it's dark outside, just darkness and
Speaker 2: developing like we need this right now.
Speaker 3: Well, all the bad news in the world, it just
Speaker 3: makes things worse.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Doctor Catherine Athens is a expert in this area and
Speaker 2: an author of numerous books. And there's a connection between
Speaker 2: the darkness and our mental health. We all know about this,
Speaker 2: but what new information is there out there? And how
Speaker 2: do you cope with it? As we lose.
Speaker 3: Time another hour this weekend, Doctor Catherine, good morning, how
Speaker 3: are you.
Speaker 10: I'm fine, Thank you, good morning, thanks for having me,
Speaker 10: and good morning to all your listeners as well.
Speaker 2: I'm already just thinking about the time change getting depressed.
Speaker 3: I know, it's funny.
Speaker 2: When I was younger, I mean, I love cold weather,
Speaker 2: love the snow and all that stuff, but the fifteen
Speaker 2: hours of darkness a day, it really has an effect.
Speaker 2: The older I get, the worst it is. Is there
Speaker 2: a connection with any age and lack of sunlight?
Speaker 10: Well, we don't get as much sunlight when we get older,
Speaker 10: do we. We're not outside playing all the time. You know,
Speaker 10: kids are outside, We tell them go outside and play.
Speaker 10: And although you know, with a digital age it may
Speaker 10: have changed a lot, but adults are behind the desk,
Speaker 10: usually sitting under a fluorescent light, which is not good
Speaker 10: for the brain at all. And usually we're sooped over,
Speaker 10: we're dehydrated, we're drinking coffee to stay away, or maybe
Speaker 10: eating that nice jelly donut, and we're just trying to
Speaker 10: brace ourselves to get through the day. So the thing
Speaker 10: to do in the morning is to drink some warm water.
Speaker 10: You can drink it with lemon, you can put a
Speaker 10: little bit of apple cide or vinegar in there, which
Speaker 10: is good for cleaning the kidneys and the liver, which
Speaker 10: are two organs that help get rid of poisons. So
Speaker 10: why do we get depressed? We become over poxified in
Speaker 10: our bodies because we're stationary and the things we eat
Speaker 10: aren't necessarily nurishing. They taste good though, So I tell
Speaker 10: people think about the basics. Think about doing some deep breathing,
Speaker 10: starting your day with an affirmation of something positive. Think
Speaker 10: about that during the day and sip water.
Speaker 7: Bring a water.
Speaker 10: Bottle or water container, tip it all day. The brain
Speaker 10: needs water to function, and most of us are dehydrated.
Speaker 2: Especially when you're inside and the air is dryer, it's
Speaker 2: not as humid. You're not, so you spend more time
Speaker 2: and die. That's why you get sick because you're dried out.
Speaker 2: So hydration is a critical thing to remaining well in
Speaker 2: the winter months, for sure. What does the lemon do
Speaker 2: for me?
Speaker 4: Though? How does that?
Speaker 3: Does that beat depression and the lack of sunlight?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 3: It's not vitamin D vitamin C.
Speaker 10: It's vitamin C. But it also helps to cleanse the liver.
Speaker 10: And you know, God bless our livers because they're always
Speaker 10: pulling poison out of our bloodstreams for us and trying
Speaker 10: to get rid of it so it doesn't circulate so
Speaker 10: much around the body, and the limit helps the liver
Speaker 10: do that. It also helps the kidneys to function, and
Speaker 10: it helps the water to taste better so you'll drink it.
Speaker 10: So there's lots of good reasons.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 10: The thought of this darkness is horrific for people. So
Speaker 10: I help people look start by getting out in the
Speaker 10: sun more often when there is sun. Try to take
Speaker 10: your lunch break and maybe take something like a sandwich
Speaker 10: that you can eat while you're slowly walking, or go
Speaker 10: to the park and sit in the sun and they
Speaker 10: have a little bite to eat. So that way you're
Speaker 10: getting more sun even though we're not getting more sun.
Speaker 10: That will help the brain a lot.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: But here's the problem here, doctor Catherine Athens. Here's the
Speaker 2: problem with Cincinnati, Ohio. Problem with Cincinnati, Ohio is we
Speaker 2: literally will not see the sun until opening day this
Speaker 2: year when the red started, and even then that may
Speaker 2: be again, but there maybe a couple hours. I think
Speaker 2: in the next six months will see the sun. But
Speaker 2: it's just a mere rumor. It's actually a lot of
Speaker 2: people right around April start to question whether or not
Speaker 2: the sun actually is this, if it's not just one
Speaker 2: of those Internet rumors or a myth or fake news
Speaker 2: or something like that, because we're pretty sure after by
Speaker 2: the time we get through February that the sun just
Speaker 2: doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 10: Okay, all right, Well, there are things you can do.
Speaker 10: There is something called full spectrum light bulbs that you
Speaker 10: can buy and replace your light bulbs at home with
Speaker 10: the full spectrum because part of the seasonal effective disorder,
Speaker 10: that depression, is we're not getting some of the spectrum
Speaker 10: of the sun. If you're really bad off, there are
Speaker 10: machines that you can buy. They're not too expensive, and
Speaker 10: they will you can sit have them sit in front
Speaker 10: of you. You can watch TV or listen to the
Speaker 10: radio and they will project full spectrum light at you.
Speaker 3: Okay, how many days? How many hours?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: My wife got me one last year at Christmas. I
Speaker 2: said I'm gonna try. I never used it because I'm
Speaker 2: just naturally positive. As you can tell here.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 3: I'm a national treasure, is what I am, doctor, and
Speaker 3: I have a user. Yeah, I plan on maybe cracking
Speaker 3: that thing.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: How long?
Speaker 2: How many hours a day? If you've got the happy
Speaker 2: light as they call them. They're pretty cheap. You can
Speaker 2: get on Amazon too. I didn't know.
Speaker 3: About the light bulbs. You could put full spectrum light
Speaker 3: bulbs on the same thing.
Speaker 2: So if you got your I don't know, your easy
Speaker 2: chair next to your couture, you know, light next to
Speaker 2: your couch, use that when you're sitting there watching TV.
Speaker 8: How many hours a day do you need that though
Speaker 8: not very many.
Speaker 10: Actually you could start off with maybe two, one in
Speaker 10: the morning and one in the evening. You know that,
Speaker 10: maybe two If you don't have two, start off with
Speaker 10: twenty minutes a few times a day if you're home,
Speaker 10: but at least twenty minutes okay at a time. It's
Speaker 10: really very useful. It helps a lot. It helps to
Speaker 10: retard that sad kind of syndrome in the winter with
Speaker 10: no light. Another thing is, if it's too cold to
Speaker 10: go outside, do some aerobic exercise inside. Get the blood
Speaker 10: going through your body, you know, get circulation going along
Speaker 10: with the light, and that will help the feeling of
Speaker 10: sadness and depression. It will actually make you feel better.
Speaker 3: More positive. Well, exercise is good for you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's in the days that if
Speaker 2: I go a few days between workouts, I notice I
Speaker 2: start to get a little more tired and irritable than
Speaker 2: I normally am, and it's because I'm missing my workout.
Speaker 2: So I get that Doctor Katin Athens on the show
Speaker 2: this morning on seven hundred WLW got the time change.
Speaker 2: We lose an hour, and now darkness will encompass us
Speaker 2: and develop us here for the next five months roughly
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, we won't see the sun maybe for a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes, I think in the next five months
Speaker 2: here too. Some may say the sun was cut out
Speaker 2: in an extreme some sort of extreme budget cut or
Speaker 2: something like that, and or maybe the sun was captured
Speaker 2: and stolen by aliens, or we just don't get so
Speaker 2: you will not see the sun for quite some time
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. That south is Does that affect your sleep
Speaker 2: then too? I know that sun and sleep generally are
Speaker 2: at odds with one another, but does it mess with
Speaker 2: their sleep cycle too?
Speaker 10: It absolutely does. Our sleep cycle or circadian rhythms all
Speaker 10: get off. So I ask people to go to bed
Speaker 10: that hour earlier, even though it says, you know, it
Speaker 10: says four o'clock, it's actually five. So go to bed
Speaker 10: when you normally go to bed for a while, and
Speaker 10: then you can increase your bedtime, maybe ten minutes each week,
Speaker 10: but go to bed. Try to remain in those same
Speaker 10: habits you have and get a lot of sleep. And yes,
Speaker 10: the sun, the sun activates trying to think of the
Speaker 10: name of the organs in the back of your head,
Speaker 10: and when you're in the sun, they're activated. When you're
Speaker 10: in the dark, they secrete melatonin. So you want to
Speaker 10: be in a dark room to sleep, but you want
Speaker 10: to have had some full spectrum light, whether it be
Speaker 10: the Happy machine or your light bulb, or for some
Speaker 10: reason there is some sunshine because that balances the brain. Now,
Speaker 10: you notice in the wintertime people become less friendly, more irritable,
Speaker 10: just because we're not moving as much and we're not
Speaker 10: drinking enough water. I mean, just think about the holidays here.
Speaker 10: You don't drink all year, and you don't eat much,
Speaker 10: and suddenly you're drinking like crazy on Thanksgiving, You're eating
Speaker 10: all kinds of stuff you never eat the rest of
Speaker 10: the year, and then you feel miserable and you go,
Speaker 10: why am I feeling so bad?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm living my life like a medieval
Speaker 2: king or something. I'm eating literally just eating giant geese
Speaker 2: neck and drumsticks and I'm drinking wine and meat and
Speaker 2: I'm just having a blast. But then you feel like
Speaker 2: crap after. It's kind of like when you eat all
Speaker 2: the Halloween candy and same.
Speaker 10: Thing right, right? So don't I tell people don't use moderation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not fun. That's no fun, though, it's I.
Speaker 2: I'm the other extreme though. I believe in everything in
Speaker 2: its excess. I think if you, I think it'll balance
Speaker 2: it ballances. I'll work out for three straight days and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna eat for nine straight days?
Speaker 3: What about that?
Speaker 1: All?
Speaker 10: What most people do? You're right in the groove? Oh
Speaker 10: I worked out? Why am I gating?
Speaker 6: Wait?
Speaker 10: When did you work out last week?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 10: Okay, Well, I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to rush into anything. I could strain.
Speaker 4: Something that's true.
Speaker 10: That's true.
Speaker 3: I don't want to jump in this exercise thing.
Speaker 2: You know, well at the time change here and losing
Speaker 2: an hour sleep. It's also too trying to get your
Speaker 2: body set because uh, you know the week when they
Speaker 2: tell you the clock changes, and then it takes you
Speaker 2: a week to get your body right again.
Speaker 3: Is it better?
Speaker 2: Is it kind of like jet legs? Should you just
Speaker 2: go to bed at the same time, or yes, go to.
Speaker 10: Bed at the same time. We actually gain an hour,
Speaker 10: but the hour we gain is darkness. So go to
Speaker 10: bed at the same time, get up at the same time,
Speaker 10: and then slowly work into the new time zone. You know,
Speaker 10: if you can go to bed at the same time,
Speaker 10: get up at the same time. Drink your water. Now,
Speaker 10: if you want to know how much water you should
Speaker 10: as take your body weight eight. Say you weigh one
Speaker 10: fifty divided in half, that's seventy five and those are ounces.
Speaker 10: You need seventy five ounces of water a day, which
Speaker 10: is huge. It's more than half a gallon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's something you sip on a little
Speaker 2: bit of water all day. Go I had like two
Speaker 2: bottles of water. That's not it's not for me. And
Speaker 2: then if you're active, you need even more water.
Speaker 4: For that matter, if.
Speaker 10: You're active, you need more water. And so the brain
Speaker 10: doesn't function without water. It doesn't function. Functions on glucose,
Speaker 10: water and amino acids. And most of us don't get
Speaker 10: enough amino acids because we're dieting or we're eating some
Speaker 10: kind of green and we're not looking at the fact
Speaker 10: we need a variety of amino acids for the brain
Speaker 10: to function properly, but we also need each other. We
Speaker 10: need human interaction face to face for the brain and
Speaker 10: the neural pathways to function properly. I recommend, if you
Speaker 10: do nothing else, go to the market or the hardware
Speaker 10: store or the Walmart, whatever, and start saying hello to people.
Speaker 6: Hello, how are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Good morning?
Speaker 4: What do you hate?
Speaker 2: What if you just hate people? And is there no
Speaker 2: hope for you? Is it terminal? What's going on there?
Speaker 4: Doctor?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 10: It could be no.
Speaker 3: Ways, I say the reels, I don't go. It's because
Speaker 3: people piss me off.
Speaker 10: Okay, well, well that's another story.
Speaker 2: They're just too many idiots in the world.
Speaker 3: I think people will listen to you, right, Sloan. There's
Speaker 3: too many idiots in the world. And that's why I
Speaker 3: tend to just stay.
Speaker 2: Home and eat and and be mindless of myself.
Speaker 3: All Right, we have do you think? As a doctor?
Speaker 2: And you studied this stuff again on the show this morning.
Speaker 2: It's doctor Catherine Athens, and she is an expert in
Speaker 2: the area of sleep. And we've got one in five
Speaker 2: Americans parentcying winter blues. According to the Cleveland Clinic, and
Speaker 2: they would know because there's no more depressing place in
Speaker 2: the world in Cleveland. So the Cleveland Clinic people, I
Speaker 2: would agree with them, and maybe even two and five
Speaker 2: at this point too. But she's a clinical and health
Speaker 2: psychologist and she's on the show talking about the time
Speaker 2: change here and what that means for you, how to
Speaker 2: combat with happy lights and making sure you're getting hydrated.
Speaker 3: Well enough and all that.
Speaker 2: Should we get away with daylight savings time in the
Speaker 2: clock four o'clock back, nonsense, you bet you we should.
Speaker 10: And in California we voted I think six years ago
Speaker 10: to do away with that, but we still have to
Speaker 10: do it. Someone isn't listening to the people over here.
Speaker 2: We have that problem here too, So it's not just Ohio,
Speaker 2: it's also California.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, oh yeah, so you got bigger problems what
Speaker 10: issues here?
Speaker 2: But yes, time change the list of those problems you
Speaker 2: got over there, that's for damn sure. So uh yeah,
Speaker 2: it seems to me, I just keep one stay the
Speaker 2: constant time and we're good there this you know, jumping
Speaker 2: back and forth every six months. So really, you know,
Speaker 2: I could see back in the day where you needed
Speaker 2: natural daylight in order to get stuff done. But we
Speaker 2: have electricity. Now, we've had.
Speaker 3: Electricity at least I think for the last three or
Speaker 3: four years.
Speaker 10: I believe, well, we do. But you know, the charcoal
Speaker 10: lobby wanted this daylight savings time because they found out
Speaker 10: that was another hour or so of sunlight. They make
Speaker 10: more money, the charcoal lobby. The charcoal lobby, no idea,
Speaker 10: blame them for this.
Speaker 3: Good lord, there's a big big charcoals behind all.
Speaker 10: This big kings.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lobby for any you got politicians, you'll
Speaker 2: have a you'll have a lobby.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: So doctor Catherine Athnes Athens at H A N. S
Speaker 2: And thanks again for the time. And she has written
Speaker 2: of several books as a matter of fact, the latest
Speaker 2: called it The Heart Brain. And doctor Catherine Athens, thanks
Speaker 2: for coming on the show.
Speaker 10: It's my pleasure. And please everyone drink your water, don't
Speaker 10: don't push yourself. Everybody's going through this miserable time change together,
Speaker 10: so please just take your time and work yourself into it,
Speaker 10: and then a few weeks you'll be you'll.
Speaker 4: Be better, hopefully.
Speaker 10: But well let's not get get out your happy machine.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Well, the good news is we have cheap flights to Florida.
Speaker 2: If all else fails, get on Allegiance or Delta or
Speaker 2: whatever and get the hell out of town for a
Speaker 2: few days.
Speaker 3: That always helps. To doctor Catherine, all.
Speaker 10: The best, thanks to you too, Bye bye.
Speaker 3: Now, today is the day because Sunday. Okay, time change.
Speaker 2: It's Sunday. You're watching football, the big deal. Monday rolls
Speaker 2: aren't yesterday. And now it's starting to affect you a
Speaker 2: little bit. Okay, Sun's coming up in the morning or
Speaker 2: and when I get home, it's getting dark and your
Speaker 2: mind is preparing for sure. In addition to that, today
Speaker 2: is election day, Election day. If you're in Ohio, make
Speaker 2: sure you take that idea with You're gonna need it
Speaker 2: if you are going to vote. And of course that
Speaker 2: pulls open we'll get a full data what's happening there.
Speaker 2: We'll also chat with the council candidate if you haven't
Speaker 2: voted yet. Anthony Weiner running for council one of the
Speaker 2: what twenty nine people running for consols some along those lines,
Speaker 2: twenty six people. It's a lot, let's put it that way,
Speaker 2: A boatload of folks. Why should you vote for him?
Speaker 2: And what he sees from an outsider's perspective, what's going
Speaker 2: on is Mayol race very interesting.
Speaker 3: We'll get to that just ahead here Sloanly seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 3: Do you want to be in American?
Speaker 2: That is election day in the Buckeye States, not so
Speaker 2: much Indiana, Kentucky, mainly Ohio. Good Morning Scotsland Show seven
Speaker 2: hundred WW New York as well.
Speaker 3: It's a big one. People are watching.
Speaker 2: We'll continue to get results and again, polls close in
Speaker 2: Ohio today at seven thirty. You do need an ID
Speaker 2: if you are going there. Don't forget the damn ID.
Speaker 2: You can go vote provisionally if you forget it, but
Speaker 2: it's just easy to bring it with you.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So we got that going on and maybe a reckoning too.
Speaker 2: And you kind of look at the tea leaves you
Speaker 2: see how maybe some polling's going alike in it. You know,
Speaker 2: his Aftab's race can be a little closer than he
Speaker 2: hopes it to be sure, and I think that's why
Speaker 2: he's maybe sweating a little bit, maybe a little bit
Speaker 2: of pressure there, But mainly I think it's a down
Speaker 2: ticket and that would be for counsole candidates. We have
Speaker 2: nine seats available, and there are twenty six candidates, even
Speaker 2: if you include the guy that's in jail right now.
Speaker 2: And you know there's some I think there's some well
Speaker 2: thought people that might wind up losing their seats result.
Speaker 2: It just it seems to me like voters are going
Speaker 2: to maybe take this out on the existing council as
Speaker 2: opposed to the mayor, just the way things work out.
Speaker 2: One of the people seeking your vote today is that
Speaker 2: Aaron Weiner. He's a realtor, lives in Clifton and a
Speaker 2: charter charter write a charter candidate for counsel.
Speaker 3: Aaron, Welcome to the show. How are you?
Speaker 7: Thank you for having me, glad to be here.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. How's a campaign going this? Now that it's over,
Speaker 3: I tell you what.
Speaker 7: I'm feeling good. I'm proud of the campaign that I've run.
Speaker 7: I've thought through it over the last seven months, where
Speaker 7: I've been, who I've talked, who I've met, and the
Speaker 7: work I've done, and I'm feeling good.
Speaker 3: The big issue here, it's a referendum on crime.
Speaker 2: As I portrayed and recandidate yourself included, is really leaning
Speaker 2: into public safety this point, I'll play a clip of
Speaker 2: this a little bit later on. I don't have time
Speaker 2: right now with you. I want to give you the
Speaker 2: most time possible. But at nine o'clock this morning, nine
Speaker 2: o six, I had a anonymous neighbor on A guy
Speaker 2: literally who lives in the shadows of the nightclub Privy
Speaker 2: nightclub that was shot up on Saturday night, walks out
Speaker 2: the morning after. Didn't know what was going on, said, man,
Speaker 2: there's crime scene tether stuff all over. Looks around, said
Speaker 2: there's a shooting there. So he walks down the block
Speaker 2: and literally steps away from the back door where the
Speaker 2: shooting took place, he finds a gun.
Speaker 3: I've got the video.
Speaker 2: Up on my feed at AX and Scott Sloan, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's just that kind of lack of attention
Speaker 2: to detail. And I don't know if it's an indictment
Speaker 2: against the cops or not. We'll get their side of
Speaker 2: the stor so why that weapon was missed or maybe
Speaker 2: it's not even related to this or was just laying there.
Speaker 2: But that's frightening to think that you could have someone
Speaker 2: denied access to a nightclub shoots up the place, and
Speaker 2: it's just a steady drumbeat of public safety and crime
Speaker 2: because many people, yourself includive, invested their resources into developing
Speaker 2: that neighborhood and the neighborhoods in and around Cincinnati. Living
Speaker 2: there and your livelihood and also your safety is threatened
Speaker 2: by the lack of attention to street criminals doing what
Speaker 2: they do. Correct you saw this in Clifton, did you not?
Speaker 2: We just had to shooting there on short line? How
Speaker 2: much of public how much do you think the voters
Speaker 2: are going to use this as a referendum on public
Speaker 2: safety today?
Speaker 7: I think it's the core issue in the city right now.
Speaker 7: I think it's been very public throughout the summer, and
Speaker 7: I think it's really it's really just a basic thing
Speaker 7: that people expect when you know from the from the city,
Speaker 7: is that it's safe. It's it's what It's what attracts
Speaker 7: people to move into the city, which makes them move out,
Speaker 7: It brings them downtown, it's what brings them the neighborhoods.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's it's just a core responsibility
Speaker 7: and a core expectation of people in the city as
Speaker 7: well as people come visit the city.
Speaker 3: Have you seen violencers? Has it affected you or you
Speaker 3: live in Clifton?
Speaker 7: No, I mean honestly, other than we we did have
Speaker 7: the issue with the with the hookah bar. So I'm
Speaker 7: not sure you're familiar with with that. That's been all
Speaker 7: over the news, Yeah, on the neighborhood, and I think
Speaker 7: they just they just got shut down finally. We've been
Speaker 7: working on this for two years, so, I mean, I
Speaker 7: think that's certainly been an issue that that we've we've
Speaker 7: had in my neighborhood in Clifton. You know that that
Speaker 7: brought a lot of a lot of filent activity. There
Speaker 7: was there was a gun. There was a you know,
Speaker 7: a gun that was Brandish we saw back in the
Speaker 7: summer there. As a result, you know, that's really kind
Speaker 7: of been the main thing certainly we've had. We've had
Speaker 7: more low level crimes. There's always break ins, but that's
Speaker 7: I think that's just normal. But the main thing that's been.
Speaker 2: The hookah bar, right right, and and uh, the previous guy,
Speaker 2: the guy was on and honestly with a gun in
Speaker 2: front of Privy. He said, you know all time today,
Speaker 2: look the club a let out. People go to the
Speaker 2: liquor store next door, a liquor store across the street
Speaker 2: by laquer Or, bring it with them, sit in their
Speaker 2: cars around their cars and basically take the club to
Speaker 2: the streets and you know there'll be a loud music
Speaker 2: being played all hours of the night. He'll call the police.
Speaker 2: They won't show up, they won't do anything. There's not
Speaker 2: enough of them that's not prioritized.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it takes an hour, two hours to
Speaker 2: get a response simply because they're overwhelmed.
Speaker 3: What is your plan to solve that?
Speaker 2: Because I understand it talking to officers, many more are
Speaker 2: leaving retirement, taking early retirement than more are coming in,
Speaker 2: simply because you know, if I work on a outside,
Speaker 2: you know, we talk about a lttle recruiting class. Why
Speaker 2: would I want, maybe for a little bit more money
Speaker 2: to risk my life, my family safety security to go
Speaker 2: fight a losing battle against crime in the streets of cincinnatiwork?
Speaker 2: Can I stay where I am? How can we incentivize
Speaker 2: police more?
Speaker 7: Well, that's that's a very good question, and I think
Speaker 7: that's why I'm on here this morning. I've with my
Speaker 7: with my team, I've done a research, it's a fifteen
Speaker 7: page plus research to recruit and retain our police officers.
Speaker 7: And you bring up a very good point, and we
Speaker 7: need to incentivize not just the police officers that we're
Speaker 7: forced enough to have with us now on CPD, but
Speaker 7: attract new talent as well as lateral talent. And that's
Speaker 7: a two prong approach. The first prong approach is a
Speaker 7: bonus structure. So you know, we've heard of in the past,
Speaker 7: we've heard of corporate buyouts where you pay people to
Speaker 7: actually retire early. This is kind of the reverse. We're
Speaker 7: actually going to offer bonus structures to encourage police officers
Speaker 7: to stay a year, two years, three years, with with
Speaker 7: with sizeable bonuses to encourage them to stay. And to
Speaker 7: your point, you know, with the with the issue we
Speaker 7: talked about, you know the bar down town, you know
Speaker 7: the other night, one time, sort of sizeable bonuses to
Speaker 7: police officers that might work in more stressful areas in
Speaker 7: order to incentivize them to stay. But I think these
Speaker 7: are ways of making sure that the talent that we have,
Speaker 7: that we've trained, that we respect, stays with us as
Speaker 7: we beef up our our police force, which we are
Speaker 7: about two hundred down if not more at this point
Speaker 7: if you take into consideration the growth we've had in
Speaker 7: our city. So that that's really the first prong of
Speaker 7: that I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To stop the bleeding, so to speak. To use a
Speaker 3: bad pun.
Speaker 7: There, right, exactly exactly. So let's stay with us, work
Speaker 7: with us. We're going to incentivize you. We're going to
Speaker 7: make it worth your while to stay with us. It's
Speaker 7: going to get better. And I think that's sort of
Speaker 7: the first prong of this. The second prong of this
Speaker 7: really involves my industry. So I'm in real estate. I'm
Speaker 7: in twenty been in real estate twenty five years. And
Speaker 7: when I when I started this process of running for council,
Speaker 7: I wanted to work with what I know, and that's
Speaker 7: certainly that's housing, and that's housing. So but with that,
Speaker 7: I thought to myself, wouldn't it be great if our
Speaker 7: police officers, more of them lived within our city limits,
Speaker 7: and you know, they're not required to by law, they
Speaker 7: don't have to be required to, and I would never
Speaker 7: mandate that they have to. Like, let's sleepen the deal
Speaker 7: a little bit and encourage them to move here. And
Speaker 7: that would be sort of a recruiting, a recruiting tool
Speaker 7: for us. So how that's going to work. It's it's
Speaker 7: it's a down payment assistance program as well as a
Speaker 7: rental stipe. So the down payment situation will work like this.
Speaker 7: So let's say you saved seven thousand, five hundred dollars,
Speaker 7: We'll match seven thousand, five hundred dollars. So all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, you have fifteen thousand dollars down. And obviously
Speaker 7: you can certainly put more if you have it right.
Speaker 7: But you have a fifteen thousand dollars down. That's five percent,
Speaker 7: which you can do on a three hundred thousand dollars house,
Speaker 7: which is about the average price of a house incence
Speaker 7: not even right now. So I think that's it. Certainly,
Speaker 7: with the cost of housing going up, I think that's
Speaker 7: certainly a way to attract that's interesting, you know, people
Speaker 7: to come to US versus maybe going to Green Township
Speaker 7: for blue ashes rental towns.
Speaker 2: Which which you don't have to incentive. I mean you
Speaker 2: can get it for So you get seven match seventy
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars for first responder, and now it covers
Speaker 2: half of a minimal day, but you got to commit
Speaker 2: to five years of residency, closing costs, preferred finance, you
Speaker 2: got a lender rental assistance program you mentioned that is
Speaker 2: it sounds to me like you're said It's like a
Speaker 2: mini VA program of programs they have federally for teachers
Speaker 2: to incentivize them to go into teaching. Now we're trying
Speaker 2: to incentivize people to go into policing.
Speaker 7: Correct.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 7: And you touched on the second prong just early, which
Speaker 7: is a rental stipend. So obviously not everyone's going to
Speaker 7: want to rent or buy right away, or they mayn't
Speaker 7: have their needs to buy it. So the next promise
Speaker 7: of this is the rental assistant, So let you know,
Speaker 7: maybe give them up to eight hundred dollars of assistance
Speaker 7: to rent. We'll partner with some of our larger property
Speaker 7: property owners in the city.
Speaker 4: To do that.
Speaker 7: And I think this could this could attract some of
Speaker 7: our younger people to want to come to come and
Speaker 7: work for us, because again, the housing costs of gotten
Speaker 7: so high that this might be be a carrot for
Speaker 7: them to want to come work for CPT as opposed
Speaker 7: to other jurisdictions and again attract young talent for longeovity.
Speaker 2: All right, I like, so you're send him an incentive
Speaker 2: program to keep and retain the office we have now
Speaker 2: just to stem the time and go, hey, listen, be patient,
Speaker 2: hold on a second. Here's here's some incentives for you
Speaker 2: to stay, which is always good, and then to get
Speaker 2: the lateral recruitment classes, which we need because that's fast tracked.
Speaker 2: That's already people who are police officers will pot a
Speaker 2: certified ready to go. You're just training up for Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: It's going to take considerable less time than the recruit
Speaker 2: classes that we have, and that's going to help stem
Speaker 2: things here, hopefully in Cincinnati. If Aaron Weiner gets elected
Speaker 2: to council today and he's joining the show this morning
Speaker 2: on seven hundred w O. But I like that plan
Speaker 2: a lot. I like the fact you're a realtor. Realtors
Speaker 2: generally are good people.
Speaker 7: Thank you. I appreciate I appreciate you saying that we've
Speaker 7: been compared to you know.
Speaker 3: Not no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: I'm married to a real estate broker, so I realtors
Speaker 2: are the best people I know for sure. Let's let's
Speaker 2: segue here a little bit. And that's the public safety
Speaker 2: element of that too. Speaking of property and like, of
Speaker 2: course we all witnessed what happened in Hyde Park Square
Speaker 2: relative to the coordinated communities playing there's a huge backlash
Speaker 2: of that. My friends who down in Hyde Park. And
Speaker 2: I'm a pro development guy, but I get the fact
Speaker 2: that you have to have some skin in the game
Speaker 2: if you have a neighbor. We shouldn't completely look at
Speaker 2: neighbors and go, hey, they have final say on everything.
Speaker 2: I think it's an important and big seat at the table,
Speaker 2: but it's a big table. How do we make sure
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen again and at the same time encourage
Speaker 2: development in the city. If you solve the crime problem,
Speaker 2: that's going to go a long way. But there's also
Speaker 2: the development angle.
Speaker 4: Here too, correct.
Speaker 7: So it's funny that you bring bring that up because
Speaker 7: I'm sitting here in my office on Hyde Park Square,
Speaker 7: which really is it's the Clubal Banker building, which is
Speaker 7: ground zero for that particular development. And you know, I
Speaker 7: think to answer your question, I think it's just it
Speaker 7: does involve just strategic engagement, some just some discussion and
Speaker 7: and and we're in getting to yes. I certainly feel
Speaker 7: like there is a deal to be made in in
Speaker 7: that equation. And certainly I'm also being in real estate,
Speaker 7: you know, pro development, and I certainly feel that that
Speaker 7: you know that there are buildings that have higher and
Speaker 7: there are space that have higher and better usage that
Speaker 7: we can we can work with here. So I mean
Speaker 7: my bottom line is I feel like development and growth
Speaker 7: should enhance the neighborhood and not erase it, and certainly
Speaker 7: shouldn't just place people as much as possible. I mean,
Speaker 7: Cold World Bankers is a national company. You know, we're
Speaker 7: going to be okay, but you know, some of these
Speaker 7: smaller businesses may may not have as easy of a
Speaker 7: time with with this particular particular thing, and I feel
Speaker 7: like that's an important thing to think about. I think
Speaker 7: another thing that to think about with that particular scenario
Speaker 7: is you know the apartment buildings that are here now
Speaker 7: now that actually is affordable housing. I mean that's you know,
Speaker 7: below market rate rent in Hyde Park. So I mean,
Speaker 7: I think if we're going to talk about, you know,
Speaker 7: if our city is going to talk about we need
Speaker 7: affordable housing, which obviously we hear a lot, you know,
Speaker 7: why are we why are we okay with getting rid
Speaker 7: of some of the last affordable housing that you might
Speaker 7: see in Hyde Park? And I may say that because
Speaker 7: it's below market rate rent. So it's just just something
Speaker 7: that maybe people haven't talked about that issue, which I
Speaker 7: think is so important to talk about as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I certainly neighbors need absolutely to have to
Speaker 2: have But but but I think if you you've seen
Speaker 2: this in real estate with hoas and the smaller this
Speaker 2: is a bigger scale than that. But if you left
Speaker 2: it up basically to the neighbors to decide, I don't
Speaker 2: think you'd probably have any development going on, would you.
Speaker 7: No, absolutely not. I definitely feel like part of the
Speaker 7: part of that, part of that is part of that
Speaker 7: is maybe maybe tailoring exactly that the feedback. So you know,
Speaker 7: we we here's the feedback, and here's the feedback in
Speaker 7: which in which you you know, what are your what
Speaker 7: are your main hot point?
Speaker 5: Are the three hot points?
Speaker 7: And how do we get to yes? Not just not
Speaker 7: having this whole like broad, you know, broad discussion. That
Speaker 7: might be one that just sort of tailoring that, tailoring
Speaker 7: the different points. But also you know, I'm my my
Speaker 7: background is in real estate. I was just so I'm
Speaker 7: used to having another reiltro on the side, a buyer,
Speaker 7: a seller, so you know, my my my whole goal
Speaker 7: is getting to yes. So I feel like you find
Speaker 7: you find the pain points, you find the places that
Speaker 7: you think you can find some you can find some agreement.
Speaker 7: Where is there some middle gramm where we can where
Speaker 7: we can grow or learn or or stretch. And I
Speaker 7: think ultimately, like in the perfect scenario, everyone feels like
Speaker 7: they've given a little more than maybe just like everyone
Speaker 7: gets compromised and we put a deal together.
Speaker 3: That's in that firsthand.
Speaker 2: And and there's sometimes where as you know in real
Speaker 2: estate deals, and sometimes you're you're miles and miles apart,
Speaker 2: and literally when it's hours, it all comes together. It's
Speaker 2: just it's the damnedest thing. But concessions have to be made.
Speaker 2: And that's being a good negotiators.
Speaker 3: You are erin. That makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 3: It's kind of what the city needs.
Speaker 2: Final question for you is, voters go to the polls
Speaker 2: today here in the Buckeye State till seven thirty. And
Speaker 2: it's Aaron Weiner on the show. One of the twenty
Speaker 2: six council candidates, maybe twenty five console candidates. You got
Speaker 2: one behind bar, So I'll bank at twenty five Aaron
Speaker 2: in this case. So how much has to change within
Speaker 2: the city And maybe in the mayor all race, we'll
Speaker 2: see what happens there. I think you have to have wins,
Speaker 2: but maybe a little closer than he likes. I think
Speaker 2: the consensus is going to be about what happens to
Speaker 2: council though, and how things that make up of council changes.
Speaker 2: How much is going to have to change in council
Speaker 2: for you to get these things done? That's the big question.
Speaker 2: You may get elected, but are you pushing a boulder
Speaker 2: up the hill?
Speaker 7: Well, to be honest with you, I think that's certainly
Speaker 7: up to the voters, right, I mean, I think there's
Speaker 7: a different speculation on there's going to be two seats
Speaker 7: that might might come bake at three two three four.
Speaker 7: I think in order to have successful conversation, you have
Speaker 7: to have a balance of power. And I think if
Speaker 7: we can see a balance of power, and I think
Speaker 7: if we can see some more maturity. You know, I'm
Speaker 7: fifty six years old. I've had a lot of life experience.
Speaker 7: I've worked in both nonprofit as a volunteer. I run
Speaker 7: a successful business. I feel like if you get some
Speaker 7: maturity on council and you get some stronger personalities and
Speaker 7: maybe some different your points, maybe a little more centrist,
Speaker 7: maybe even someone who's a little more right, I feel
Speaker 7: like we'll have some more powerful conversations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, divided government is better real quick here before I'll
Speaker 2: let you go erin if you're in, if you're on
Speaker 2: council and you're in council during the riot or during
Speaker 2: the rights, during the July twenty six beat down, the
Speaker 2: brawl Fountain Square, what's happening in Cliff and over the
Speaker 2: Ryan and elsewhere, but particular the firing or chaff chriff
Speaker 2: for Police Chief Terry Fiji, will you ever spoken against
Speaker 2: the mayor? What do you have stepped up? Because no
Speaker 2: one in council I'm saved. Maybe a couple of people
Speaker 2: I've had the show have stepped up and denounced the
Speaker 2: mayor and I was handled this whole thing.
Speaker 3: Would you have stepped up?
Speaker 7: You know? I mean it's such a loaded question because again,
Speaker 7: my my career has been so much about collaboration and
Speaker 7: playing nice in the sandbox now, so I've never I've
Speaker 7: never been one to necessarily want to denounce someone publicly,
Speaker 7: So you know, I'd have to, you know, I just
Speaker 7: love to say I think I think I think it's
Speaker 7: it's it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback and look
Speaker 7: back at how things would have gone. I definitely would
Speaker 7: have liked I would like to have a united front
Speaker 7: on an issue and have some strategic united front procedure
Speaker 7: on it. It's not to say that I would not
Speaker 7: come at a council or a leader if I felt
Speaker 7: that what they were doing was wrong. Would it be
Speaker 7: publicly maybe, maybe not, would it be privately? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Aaron Weiner, council candidate, pulls up until seven thirty. I
Speaker 2: wish all the best luck in the world. We do
Speaker 2: need some change within those nine members. Guarantee at least
Speaker 2: one because Victoria Parks isn't running, she said, and rightly
Speaker 2: so we'll fill at least one seat. But I wonder
Speaker 2: how many it's going to take in order for the
Speaker 2: administration to pay attention just how serious this crime issue is.
Speaker 2: Above all, alls Aaron, all the best, good luck today.
Speaker 7: Thank you, thanks the opportunity you sir.
Speaker 2: I've got to get a news update in and win
Speaker 2: a return will kind of maybe a little list, but
Speaker 2: rehash the nine o'clock hour and if you missed it,
Speaker 2: I had a discussion with the neighbor found the gun
Speaker 2: in front of Privy after the the police had already left.
Speaker 2: There's a gun lay and they're like, well, kind of
Speaker 2: miss this, how that fits in the grand scheme of
Speaker 2: what we're talking about this election day. Scott's loan show
Speaker 2: continues next we'll get your calls in as well. On
Speaker 2: seven hundred Scott flown here seven hundred l W. I'm
Speaker 2: sure hearing that the Logan Wilson dealt by the Bengals
Speaker 2: to the Dallas Cowboys for a seventh round draft pick
Speaker 2: on this decision day in more ways than one, not
Speaker 2: only of that to the deadline for the NFL and
Speaker 2: the deadline for voters today to get out and you
Speaker 2: have the seven thirty if you're in Ohio, bring an
Speaker 2: id Witchham and got a bunch of ballots and certainly
Speaker 2: a lot of levees issues. CPS has one probably talking
Speaker 2: to folks from CPS about that tomorrow. Things are looking
Speaker 2: good for that the interesting one, and I think the
Speaker 2: eyes of the region are on Sinday. Cincinnati. That's a
Speaker 2: little of the big one. Yeah, yeah, Like I said,
Speaker 2: you've got some school levies and issues and school boards
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But it's an off year election
Speaker 2: cycle and an important one though in Cincinnati because you
Speaker 2: have a mayoral race and you also have the council race.
Speaker 2: I think the may have been saying, it seems like
Speaker 2: that's a lock for Aftab just not if he wins,
Speaker 2: but how by much and what that means, what that
Speaker 2: message is narrow the margin, the more he's going to
Speaker 2: have to pay attention to what he's been ignoring, and
Speaker 2: that also changes his trajectory because clearly he is a
Speaker 2: guy who's in it for higher office than the mayor
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. Kind of felt that way for a long time.
Speaker 2: There's a number of politicians are like that that they
Speaker 2: seem they're just biding their time to get a bite
Speaker 2: at a bigger apple, so to speak. But it has
Speaker 2: not been going well lately for him because, certainly on
Speaker 2: this show and others, we've been pretty much attacking him,
Speaker 2: not because he's a Democrat, I know that's the thing
Speaker 2: is now, oh you're a Republican station and not actually
Speaker 2: true or more libertarian, but not attacking him because he's
Speaker 2: a progressive or a Democrat. I'm attacking him because of
Speaker 2: the policies and because what it has wrought. And this
Speaker 2: is the seeds that he sowed four years ago are
Speaker 2: now sprouting and quite only turning into weeds at this point.
Speaker 2: Thought that they may be flowers but it turns out
Speaker 2: a lot of its weeds, and the weeds, of course,
Speaker 2: are the problem of crime, and those weeds have grown
Speaker 2: to the point where they get their tentacles around the
Speaker 2: heart of the city at this point, and it's choking
Speaker 2: it out. First hour of the show this morning at
Speaker 2: nine oh six. If he missed it, you can catch
Speaker 2: it on the podcast following the show at the twelve
Speaker 2: o'clock today. So listen to it as a and I
Speaker 2: had him on and people are like, well, how do
Speaker 2: we know who it is as a real person? Is
Speaker 2: it not fame made up? It's a neighbor who lives
Speaker 2: literally steps away from Privy, the nightclub, the last example
Speaker 2: of the bloodiness that is Cincinnati, the senseless violence at Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: and he lives right there. He is a real estate
Speaker 2: guy himself speaking of you know, we just had on
Speaker 2: here in Aaron Weiner, council candidate, realtor had some good
Speaker 2: ideas I think to try and get cops staying but
Speaker 2: also coming to the city of Cincinnati. But in this case,
Speaker 2: a guy who's developing the neighborhood. He's you know, renting,
Speaker 2: fixing places up, renting them out. So you got some
Speaker 2: affordable housing. You probably get some retail on stuff down there.
Speaker 2: His skin in the game and lives there, and he
Speaker 2: was on in the first hour of the show this
Speaker 2: morning describing what life is like on there now. And
Speaker 2: it's about Privy because it's in the backyard. But I
Speaker 2: think Privy is emblematic of the problem overall because he
Speaker 2: mentioned that, you know, years ago, you didn't have much
Speaker 2: downtown before Rhinegeist was rhein Geist and all those things,
Speaker 2: and so the wonderful development that he's a part of,
Speaker 2: and now he feels like it's slipping away. You know,
Speaker 2: if you're the person. And there's countless people, countless hundreds
Speaker 2: of people who do what he did, and that is
Speaker 2: they buy some property. They had an opportunity to buy
Speaker 2: low and maybe sell high. That's American dream. That's how
Speaker 2: he made money, put his own hard work and savings
Speaker 2: into buying properties, and that led to other properties and
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. And everything that was promised
Speaker 2: to him is like, hey, come down, you can get
Speaker 2: you can get a parcel of land, you can get
Speaker 2: a vacant building, and a market or a lesson market
Speaker 2: rate place will incentivize you to develop it and build
Speaker 2: it in three CDCs involved on that great stuff, and
Speaker 2: we had we had this great renaissance in Cincinnati not
Speaker 2: that long ago, and you feel like it's all in
Speaker 2: jeopardy because of an unchecked criminal element, simply because we
Speaker 2: got too complacent when it came to crime. One of
Speaker 2: those was, hey, we've got enough cops. We don't need anymore.
Speaker 2: Things seem to be going well, so why are we
Speaker 2: spending all this money on fighting crime? Well, okay, see
Speaker 2: what happens when you ease your foot off the gas
Speaker 2: a little bit, and then you have policies, And this
Speaker 2: is where I would attack after about it's the policies.
Speaker 2: The policies are that we're going to not go after
Speaker 2: individuals because we feel that criminals are victims too.
Speaker 3: That's not true. They're criminals.
Speaker 2: And there's so many good people of all different walks
Speaker 2: of life, socioeconomic, race, creed, and color. It's not about them.
Speaker 2: It's a good people versus the predators out there. And
Speaker 2: I have a sense that the people in front of
Speaker 2: Privy are predators. Does it make a lot of sense
Speaker 2: that you shoot up a nightclub because you can't. I
Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense. And it's disturbing because it's
Speaker 2: a quality of life issue. No, and it's also a
Speaker 2: public safe The public safety is huge, right, It's like
Speaker 2: one of the three big things that local governments and
Speaker 2: control of, you know, certainly the streets and the sidewalks
Speaker 2: and keeping the snow cleared, removing the trash. The other
Speaker 2: one is the biggest one is public safety. And if
Speaker 2: there's a person option that you're not safe, you're not
Speaker 2: going to see people invest in downtown and OTR in
Speaker 2: these neighborhoods. And we need more development, not less, because
Speaker 2: we continue and continue to fall behind. And so you
Speaker 2: don't think the war is lost, but they've set it
Speaker 2: up so much by this hands off, feel good policies
Speaker 2: that it has led to where we are right now.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious as a voter, if you're there voting today,
Speaker 2: I've voted that you're going to take this out maybe
Speaker 2: on the mayor maybe you won't vote, but I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot you know, most most of Cincinnati, you're
Speaker 2: a Democrat, you're progressive. You're not going to not vote
Speaker 2: for maybe you don't vote for AFTAB. You're probably not
Speaker 2: going to vote for Corey Bowman because he's a Republican.
Speaker 2: I understand that, but at the same time, I wonder
Speaker 2: what level accountability you hold the members of council.
Speaker 3: That'll be the big one.
Speaker 2: And there's nine seats up for grabs with twenty six
Speaker 2: people going for it, and I wonder at least one
Speaker 2: because Victoria Parks is running anymore, so there's one seat.
Speaker 2: But you wonder how many more people get displaced on
Speaker 2: council because the voters are frustrated and scared for that matter.
Speaker 2: And I don't blame you at all for that. This morning,
Speaker 2: as I said, at nine oh six, I had on
Speaker 2: the neighbor who found the gun in front of Privy
Speaker 2: or next to Privy anyway, and just kind of edited
Speaker 2: up a little bit so you can get idea if
Speaker 2: you missed that. Here is our conversation from about nine
Speaker 2: this morning. Again it's on the podcast I'll following after
Speaker 2: the show. And I asked this individual and wanted to
Speaker 2: rename anonymous here and the videos up on my ex
Speaker 2: feed at Scott Sloan if you haven't seen it yet,
Speaker 2: and what time he was out there and what time
Speaker 2: did you find the gun.
Speaker 1: I'm honored to be a part of the show. I'm
Speaker 1: glad to be talking to you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you. What's your take on all us?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm more so. Okay, I miss I missed the prompt,
Speaker 1: so I just tuned in on the part where the
Speaker 1: guy calls something about m Street.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, he.
Speaker 3: Talking about.
Speaker 2: This is a guy who lives like literally steps away
Speaker 2: from the from Privy Nightclub. He's the guy that found
Speaker 2: the gun in the grass after the shooting on Saturday.
Speaker 2: And then this is after the investigation.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, I was more so. I want to
Speaker 1: say that a lot of people living over right right
Speaker 1: and kind of grew kind of grew up in over
Speaker 1: the run, right. I do have conservative views, if that's okay.
Speaker 1: And yeah, a lot of people who have done any
Speaker 1: dirt down here, they don't live down here, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. So I heard I heard them say something
Speaker 1: about just torking on the cars and all of that.
Speaker 1: When you wrop off the park once you see those people.
Speaker 1: You don't see those teenagers at the park because their
Speaker 1: mom don't play right, because we do still have six
Speaker 1: and eight down here, right, So a lot of people
Speaker 1: who come down here to do their dirt, to do
Speaker 1: their violence, they don't live down here, they catch the
Speaker 1: bus to come down here to cause havoc in our neighborhood.
Speaker 1: And it's unacceptable, right, And.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean think about it.
Speaker 2: You know, you're not living that there's that club and
Speaker 2: it caters to a certain clientele that because there's so
Speaker 2: few people that are willing to do that. And let's
Speaker 2: face it, I mean, Sarah, you know, there's a reason
Speaker 2: why that element has attracted that club, right because maybe
Speaker 2: they're looking the other way. Maybe you know, I know this,
Speaker 2: he's okay, hey, come in, you have weapons, you have drugs,
Speaker 2: you have god knows what you're getting in there. It's
Speaker 2: gonna attract that kind of element because you know, the
Speaker 2: word gets around that they're cool at at at Privy
Speaker 2: and so this brings that element there, and it's going
Speaker 2: to bring people with their cars. It's gonna because you said, buses, whatever,
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna ride and where this is the spot we're
Speaker 2: going to this and that's gonna attract all that from
Speaker 2: all around the city that you.
Speaker 1: Know what that that is, that is true, that is
Speaker 1: that is true to a certain extent. You know, But
Speaker 1: when you also, when we come down here to live
Speaker 1: down here, we have to we we don't want to write,
Speaker 1: but we have to expect, uh sort of that sort
Speaker 1: of that element because this, this neighborhood isn't known to
Speaker 1: be the best, right And like you said, people are
Speaker 1: coming from everywhere to invest in down here. They have
Speaker 1: to understand that a lot of this stuff and I'm
Speaker 1: also convinced that a lot of this isn't going to
Speaker 1: change either, right, Like I feel bad for the police
Speaker 1: chief because she did come out and I heard it
Speaker 1: on WEBN, she did come out and say that she
Speaker 1: didn't have enough cops to patrol. Because I lived right
Speaker 1: where that sixteen year old got shot. Someone else got
Speaker 1: shot on next to Tina's. I live near there. So
Speaker 1: it's just sad and it's horrible because it is a
Speaker 1: beautiful neighborhood. Whether it's we're we're some mixed neighborhood, right,
Speaker 1: it is a beautiful neighborhood. And those of us who
Speaker 1: live down here, even though Section eight people, even us
Speaker 1: who like myself work every day five days a week
Speaker 1: and go to work and come home, we we like.
Speaker 3: I sense, you know what, here's the thing here. I
Speaker 3: feel you frustrated as well.
Speaker 2: It's like this is not you know, we've got those
Speaker 2: the visitors in the city and it's black and it's
Speaker 2: white and all this and it's not It's like there's
Speaker 2: good people and bad people. It's like, what the hell
Speaker 2: is so hard about You call ninety one one and
Speaker 2: they're you know, playing their blairing music and drinking liquor
Speaker 2: on car hoods at three o'clock in the morning, four o'clock,
Speaker 2: mar How hard is that to run those people off
Speaker 2: of there?
Speaker 10: That?
Speaker 2: And you know, we don't have enough cops, you know,
Speaker 2: like one hundred fifty cops short.
Speaker 3: They don't have time for that. But it's also the policies.
Speaker 1: I think they're scared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe too.
Speaker 1: I think our police are nervous to come and come
Speaker 1: out to calls because they typically don't know, like you
Speaker 1: you get a diservice or allowed if it's loud, they're
Speaker 1: not coming up. I've heard shots before and I'll literally
Speaker 1: put look at my clock, and they take about an
Speaker 1: hour and a half before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just back. And the problem is that they're
Speaker 3: backed up.
Speaker 2: And that is because like when you treat a criminals
Speaker 2: like they're victims in this whole feel good nonsense, this
Speaker 2: is what you wind up getting I mean, they're bad
Speaker 2: people in the world of all stripes. Like, I don't
Speaker 2: know why it's so damn hard just to take the people,
Speaker 2: regardless of what they look like, or what gender they
Speaker 2: are or what.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 2: It's if you're doing bad stuff, you're you're you're wreaking
Speaker 2: havoc and ruining your neighborhood.
Speaker 3: You gotta get the hell out of there. Knock it off.
Speaker 3: It's not that hard.
Speaker 4: I appreciate.
Speaker 2: Well, guys, cut off there, all right. Let me let
Speaker 2: me get the audio in here again. From about nine
Speaker 2: oh six, you had the guy on the show, the
Speaker 2: neighbor who found the gun, because I was asking him
Speaker 2: about what time he actually found the gun in the
Speaker 2: morning when he's out.
Speaker 6: Loking, probably nine am. I didn't even know a shooting
Speaker 6: had happened. I was waking up of Sunday morning. I
Speaker 6: was walking down the street and when I walked by
Speaker 6: the first time I made a video. I'd just taken
Speaker 6: a video. We can't stand privy because it's just been
Speaker 6: one thing.
Speaker 8: After the next, after the next at the next.
Speaker 6: So I took a little video just to show like
Speaker 6: the trash that was outside. Yeah, you know, I thought
Speaker 6: that it was going to be a good video to
Speaker 6: have to show like, hey, at the end of the night,
Speaker 6: this is how they leave this place, and like this
Speaker 6: is just one of the fifty reasons why, like we
Speaker 6: hate having to miss a neighbor. And to turn the
Speaker 6: corner in my video into the alley right in front of,
Speaker 6: you know, the establishment, and there's like look like a
Speaker 6: murder scene. Like it was just like a giant pool
Speaker 6: of blood. And so that was the first time I
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, what happened here last night? And I
Speaker 6: got on the citizen app and I saw that four
Speaker 6: people had gotten shot kind of looked at the Citizen
Speaker 6: app as to where the shooting looked like it took place,
Speaker 6: and I just walked over there and just sitting right
Speaker 6: on the grass was a handgun. And so I didn't
Speaker 6: even really try to look. I just just there's just
Speaker 6: sitting right there. And so I called the cops and said, hey, like,
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys like they can look
Speaker 6: for this, but like the pistols sitting right here, it's
Speaker 6: directly this is a whole other topic, but like I
Speaker 6: saw some of the security footage, I actually went and
Speaker 6: talked to the owner who I've met a few times,
Speaker 6: and he like showed me some of the security footage
Speaker 6: and like the video is crystal clear. And so if
Speaker 6: they don't make an arrest on this, like I have
Speaker 6: no idea what we're doing.
Speaker 2: How many feet would you say from where you found
Speaker 2: the gun was in proximity to the to the front
Speaker 2: door of the club.
Speaker 6: So the shooting happened on the I guess it'd be
Speaker 6: the north end of Privy. There's a door. From what
Speaker 6: he said, there was a group of individuals that were
Speaker 6: trying to come into the club and they didn't want
Speaker 6: to be searched. I will give you this, Privy does
Speaker 6: have really impressive security, But it's the security is so
Speaker 6: impressive that it realizes how it makes you realize how
Speaker 6: alarming it is. Like these guys have boldproof vests on.
Speaker 6: They look like swat swat gear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of guys in tactical gear. Looks like
Speaker 2: they're headed into war as opposed to the front end
Speaker 2: of the place I want to go have not the
Speaker 2: place I want to go have beer.
Speaker 6: What about the shooters I saw and they looked like
Speaker 6: they were twenty five ish years old. There's maybe five
Speaker 6: or six guys. They didn't want to get searched at
Speaker 6: the front door, so they went over to the side
Speaker 6: door and then they got really mad like when they
Speaker 6: couldn't get in. And so I don't know this series
Speaker 6: of events, but it sounds like they literally just started
Speaker 6: shooting at the building, which is insane, and it just
Speaker 6: kind of shows you the kind of people that Privy
Speaker 6: is drawing literally to my sideyard.
Speaker 2: That was from nine oh six this morning. If you
Speaker 2: missed you one, hear the whole discussion. It'll be available
Speaker 2: on the podcast via iHeartRadio app for free, so you
Speaker 2: can download that listen to your own time, or just
Speaker 2: you know, check it out then. But on this and
Speaker 2: the reason he's anonymous because while he has a fear
Speaker 2: of retribution from those people who frequent and own that
Speaker 2: particular club, it's a problem. It's problem invested in the neighborhood,
Speaker 2: has seen and then put a lot of his own
Speaker 2: money and hard work into affordable housing and bringing the
Speaker 2: neighborhood up, and now it's being torn apart because we
Speaker 2: don't have cops to run people off when they're partying
Speaker 2: after hours around there, drinking, working on cars, that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. That kind of scene. It's a mess down there,
Speaker 2: and of course today being election day, you would think
Speaker 2: that there's some sort of wake up call from the
Speaker 2: voters of Cincinnati. Whatever that looks like. It's going to
Speaker 2: be interesting to have this discussion tomorrow. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 2: I feel for you if you live in the city
Speaker 2: right now. I wonder if the interesting parts are going
Speaker 2: to be starting tomorrow after the elections. When the when
Speaker 2: the dust cells and smokes clear, do they change tech
Speaker 2: or they do simply go, hey, you know what we
Speaker 2: want re election, win our seats. We're going to continue
Speaker 2: the way things are. We're fine, no retribution whatsoever. We
Speaker 2: don't feel it from the voters. A lot on the
Speaker 2: line today for Share in the City. Scott Sloan Show
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Speaker 3: Good morning.
Speaker 2: Today is election day, of course in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana.
Speaker 2: Don't forget the id I've been talking about the passing
Speaker 2: of President Dick Cheney, vice President sorry Dick Cheney, so
Speaker 2: I may say president, but vice President Dick Cheney. And
Speaker 2: it also marks today a very interesting anniversary the Iranian
Speaker 2: hostage crisis. He may not have been around when this
Speaker 2: was going down. I was a little kid, but vaguely
Speaker 2: remember this and specifically our attempt to rescue the fifty
Speaker 2: hostages taken by the Islamic militants in Tehran back in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine that stretched into nineteen eighty and impacted
Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty presidential campaign. And Ben McIntyre's here writes
Speaker 2: about this in the siege and obviously some parallels here
Speaker 2: to what is transpiring our hass transferred, i should say,
Speaker 2: in Israel with the moss and hostage is there, Ben,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: Good morning, Thank you very much, great to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the backstory here history, and you know, if
Speaker 2: we think radical Islam, Islam is something new, I mean
Speaker 2: we really saw this in the late nineteen seven, mid
Speaker 2: to night late nineteen seventies, culminating with the taking of
Speaker 2: fifty Americans, including a Cincinnatian, held hostage at our embassy
Speaker 2: in Iran.
Speaker 3: And it went on forever.
Speaker 2: And this is really what sunk Jimmy Carter in his
Speaker 2: quest for a second tem I. The economy was banned
Speaker 2: a lot of the things. He's worried about peace in
Speaker 2: the Middle East and all this. But to me that
Speaker 2: you know, watching the news, and that was when you
Speaker 2: had three channels. Maybe you watch the news and it
Speaker 2: would be a steady drumbeat in the account of Okay,
Speaker 2: it's one hundred days, it's two hundred days, and it
Speaker 2: kept going on and on and on that were really
Speaker 2: in the eyes of America, made him look even weaker
Speaker 2: than he already was and ultimately ushered in Ronald Reagan,
Speaker 2: that is right.
Speaker 12: And simultaneously, six days after the failed attempt to rescue
Speaker 12: the American hostages in Tehran, Operation Eagle Claw, which ended,
Speaker 12: as you say, in disaster, it was a calamity. Six
Speaker 12: days later, six Iranian Arabs attacked the Iranian embassy in London.
Speaker 12: There's an almost direct parallel going on here. One of
Speaker 12: the reasons why they decided to attack the Iranian embassy
Speaker 12: was because it was representative of the Iranian regime. These
Speaker 12: were militant Arabs who were opposed to the Ayatoller and
Speaker 12: the new fundamentalists in Tehran, and they selected the Iranian
Speaker 12: embassy in London as the best thing to attack, and
Speaker 12: it set off an astonishing kind of parallel hostage situation
Speaker 12: here because inside that building.
Speaker 8: Were twenty six people, some of them.
Speaker 12: British citizens in fact, which the gunmen were not expecting.
Speaker 12: Most of them were employees of the Iranian embassy and
Speaker 12: representatives of the Eyeoler's regime, and it became a huge parallel.
Speaker 8: Problem for the international community.
Speaker 2: The American side of this thing is I think we
Speaker 2: didn't pay as much attention to that as we did
Speaker 2: the Operation Eagle Claw. I think, as what was called
Speaker 2: when the helicopter crash killed the eight servicemen in an
Speaker 2: attempt to rescue the hostages. At least a few of
Speaker 2: the hostages from from Tehran. And it's not because of
Speaker 2: the Shah of Iran. So the Shah was basically our
Speaker 2: guy in Tehran. We can know he certainly had a
Speaker 2: lot of influence in the way we backed his regime,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he had to escape came
Speaker 2: to the United States. I think subsequently that of cancer,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. But the end result, there is
Speaker 2: a lot of this wake in this this power vacuum
Speaker 2: in Iran and Tehran that led to the hostage has
Speaker 2: been taken.
Speaker 12: That that is, that is correct, and of course in
Speaker 12: nineteen eighty it was still incredibly.
Speaker 5: Unstable in Iran.
Speaker 8: You know, the regime had not fully established itself.
Speaker 12: And it had also awoken lots of expectations among people
Speaker 12: who had supported the revolution, including the Arab minority in
Speaker 12: the southwest.
Speaker 8: Who were keen for more.
Speaker 12: Political rights, who wanted political representation, that is the oil
Speaker 12: rich part of Iran, that's the southwest and Kusev done.
Speaker 12: And what happened was exactly the reverse that instead of
Speaker 12: providing the Arabs with more rights and more more morey
Speaker 12: in the wake of the Fulham, the Shah, actually the
Speaker 12: Iataola clamped down brutally on those Arabs, creating a major
Speaker 12: problem because what that resulted in was a very militant
Speaker 12: guerrilla movement on the part of the Arabs in Iran,
Speaker 12: backed by Saddam Hussein. That is the point of this
Speaker 12: element of the story.
Speaker 8: Is that Saddam Hussein and his.
Speaker 12: Then terrorist advisor A mangled Abu ni Dahal were training
Speaker 12: Arabs in and around Baghdad to attack Iran, to attack
Speaker 12: different Iranian targets, oil fields, police stations, and in this case,
Speaker 12: the Iranian embassy in London.
Speaker 8: So what you have taking place in London at the
Speaker 8: same time.
Speaker 12: As the hostage crisis is taking place in Tehran, is
Speaker 12: really the first battle of the looming Iran Iraq War,
Speaker 12: because that is coming in a few months.
Speaker 5: After this, Iran and Iraq go to war.
Speaker 12: More than a million people die in that appalling eight
Speaker 12: year conflict.
Speaker 8: But the first element of that and that conflict.
Speaker 12: Of course would have huge effects u urramifications going down
Speaker 12: to going down the years, but that all started, that
Speaker 12: moment begins in this conflict in London. So the Sixth
Speaker 12: Day Siege, this extraordinary sort of standoff that takes place
Speaker 12: in London, is really a battle of sort of proxy.
Speaker 5: Battle between the Iran and Iraq. The Iran Iraq war.
Speaker 12: Of course, destabilizes the whole of the Middle East, and
Speaker 12: from there you get to the Gulf Wars, you get
Speaker 12: to the Afghan situation, the invasion of Afghanistan, and eventually
Speaker 12: you get.
Speaker 5: To nine to eleven.
Speaker 12: So this in a way is one of the founding moments,
Speaker 12: along with the hostage crisis in Tehran for America. This
Speaker 12: is a key moment. The other thing to know about
Speaker 12: the Iranian embassy crisis here in London was that It
Speaker 12: was being closely watched by America because.
Speaker 8: There was a hope at the time that if.
Speaker 12: It could be resolved peacefully, if somehow the Iranians inside
Speaker 12: could be released, it would please Tehran and that could
Speaker 12: then be used as a lever to try to persuade.
Speaker 5: Iran to release the American hostages.
Speaker 12: So throughout this six day siege, Washington was on the
Speaker 12: line to Margaret Thatcher saying, you know, get this sorted out,
Speaker 12: Please get this done bloodlessly.
Speaker 8: Do it in a way that will, you know, curry
Speaker 8: favor with the.
Speaker 12: Iranian regime, and then we may be able to use
Speaker 12: it as a way to get our people out. Needless
Speaker 12: to say, that didn't work. The teage ended with an
Speaker 12: extraordinary assault by the sas by British special forces. It
Speaker 12: was highly successful. In contrast to it Operation Eagle Claw,
Speaker 12: which you've just mentioned, this was an astonishing success. They
Speaker 12: managed to save all but two of the hostages and
Speaker 12: indeed killed all but one of the gunment.
Speaker 5: It was an amazing achievement.
Speaker 12: The hope that this would somehow bring Tehran into a
Speaker 12: better relationship with both Britain and America was not to be.
Speaker 12: That hardline regime remained just as hardline as it.
Speaker 5: Was before, not harder.
Speaker 2: Connect the dots and Ben McIntyre and the sea. How
Speaker 2: did we get to today where you have another humanitarian crisis,
Speaker 2: You have more hostages, this time those people from Gaza
Speaker 2: in the Middle East, and we have Palestinians and Israel.
Speaker 2: Nothing new there are. How close are those two related?
Speaker 2: And it seems like, I think for the casual observers,
Speaker 2: certainly the battle between Jews in Arabs and Palestinians in
Speaker 2: this case has been gone on much much longer than
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here with the anniversary of the
Speaker 2: Iranian hostage crisis.
Speaker 3: How do these all connect?
Speaker 8: Yes, well, they do connect.
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, the battle inside the Iranian embassy
Speaker 12: in London during the siege was really between rival ideologies,
Speaker 12: people who believed they had right on.
Speaker 8: Their side and were prepared to do.
Speaker 12: Anything that they had to do, including killing, including mass killing,
Speaker 12: in order to achieve their political aims. It was not
Speaker 12: a religious conflict, the one in London. It was much
Speaker 12: more to do with rights and.
Speaker 8: Territory and representation, as you can argue.
Speaker 12: Is the in Gaza. What it seems to me this
Speaker 12: story is about really is about radicalization. The sixth gunmen
Speaker 12: who went into attack the embassy here had all suffered
Speaker 12: at the hands of Iran's security service.
Speaker 8: They had had.
Speaker 12: Family members killed, tortured, executed. Now that doesn't justify what
Speaker 12: they what they did is still these were men of
Speaker 12: violence who were prepared to kill and be killed in
Speaker 12: what they were doing. But they had been brutalized by
Speaker 12: a kind of tit for tack violence, which is what
Speaker 12: we're seeing today in a way in Gaza, the quickest
Speaker 12: way to make a man into a killer is to
Speaker 12: kill the thing that he loves. And you know, indiscriminate bombing,
Speaker 12: you know, attacking kibbutzis. These are acts of sort of
Speaker 12: indiscriminate violence that create They don't create.
Speaker 8: The effect that they that they are intended to create.
Speaker 12: They simply create more violence. So although this story of
Speaker 12: the Iranian embassy siege in London that the sas hostage drama,
Speaker 12: it is still a story of our times. We still
Speaker 12: have hostages being taken in the name of politics, in
Speaker 12: the name of sort of sexittarian views, which is exactly
Speaker 12: what was happening in London.
Speaker 2: And sadly, then if you look prior to nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: and you'll see photographs of people in Tehran in the
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies and sixties and looks very western. The women
Speaker 2: are addressed in Western clothes. They're in Burker's list of
Speaker 2: the music go on a Western university. Will we ever
Speaker 2: see in our lifetime the pendulum swing back that way?
Speaker 8: Hopefully?
Speaker 5: Probably? Who knows?
Speaker 8: I mean in order, But you're actually right, of.
Speaker 5: Course, Scott.
Speaker 12: You know that it was a very westernized regime in
Speaker 12: Iran under the Shah, But of course that had happened
Speaker 12: very quickly too. It had gone from being a much
Speaker 12: more traditional, much more religious state. He had sort of
Speaker 12: force marched it with Western help, into the Western world.
Speaker 12: The non wearing of hit jabs and so on in
Speaker 12: Iran was all comparatively news. So these are very sudden changes.
Speaker 12: One shouldn't imagine that Iran had had a slow evolution
Speaker 12: into a westernized Middle Eastern country. It hadn't. It had
Speaker 12: been frog marched into that by the shar who was
Speaker 12: determined to create that high speed a modern nation, and
Speaker 12: he did so with extreme brutality. I mean, we now
Speaker 12: know of some of the horrors perpetrated by his security
Speaker 12: service during the shas regime. So again you have that
Speaker 12: story of sudden change coupled with an absolute sort of
Speaker 12: determination to impose your views.
Speaker 5: On other people.
Speaker 12: That is an old, old story and alas it's been
Speaker 12: the story in Iran for centuries. I mean, Western involvement
Speaker 12: in Iran is not a happy story. The Anglo American
Speaker 12: oil companies who manipulated Iran and tried to make.
Speaker 8: Huge amounts of profits out of there, that is also
Speaker 8: part of this story.
Speaker 5: The West is not blameless in this story.
Speaker 12: It's not as if the Shah was some charming, polite
Speaker 12: democrat elected figure.
Speaker 8: He was not.
Speaker 12: He was a ruthless autocrat and he was backed by
Speaker 12: Britain and America. And part of that autocracy is what
Speaker 12: sparked the revolution. It didn't come from nowhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, British petroleum comes to man, right BP, which we
Speaker 2: have here obviously British year where you are in trying
Speaker 2: to keep oil as low as we'll go and essentially
Speaker 2: milking that out and people realized, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: we in. It led to the oil crisis, the oil embargo,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't sound like much has change. We're still
Speaker 2: fighting this battle.
Speaker 8: I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 12: And you know, in nineteen fifty three, the democratically elected
Speaker 12: government of Iran was toppled in a coup because they
Speaker 12: appeared to be about to nationalize the oil industry.
Speaker 5: Well, who was behind that coup?
Speaker 12: It was the CIA and MI six it was it
Speaker 12: was British and American intelligence created a coup against the
Speaker 12: democratically elected government. That shows you just how volatile and
Speaker 12: how much X area sort of influence has has had
Speaker 12: to play.
Speaker 5: In the Iranian story.
Speaker 12: And it goes back, it goes and memories in Iran
Speaker 12: are very very long. I mean again, in no way
Speaker 12: am I defending the appalling theocratic regime in Tehran today,
Speaker 12: which has become more and more oppressive as time has
Speaker 12: gone on.
Speaker 8: But one has to see that as you have to see.
Speaker 12: All these stories in historical context. These things don't happen
Speaker 12: out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Well you kind of said it yourself. Oppression leads to revolution.
Speaker 2: And as oppressed as people are there, do we see
Speaker 2: a revolution brewing where people are going to want to
Speaker 2: take back their country or at least their autocracy. It's
Speaker 2: been going on for almost fifty years, I think that
Speaker 2: is right. Do we see an end inside? Because it's
Speaker 2: all cyclical. It all comes back.
Speaker 8: It does.
Speaker 12: An oppression is to revolution, and revolution almost inevitably leads
Speaker 12: to greater repression, so you have a kind of vicious
Speaker 12: cycle that eventually explodes out of the country.
Speaker 7: That is.
Speaker 12: You know, the American hostage crisis was very different in
Speaker 12: lots of ways from the British embassy crisis, because, of course,
Speaker 12: that was those were captives inside an entire country.
Speaker 5: They were really being held hostage by the Iranian state.
Speaker 12: This was both similar but at the same time different
Speaker 12: because these were terrorists, gunmen who had come to this
Speaker 12: country with the avowed intention of staging sort of terrorists
Speaker 12: spectacular with Iraqi backing. But within days of it happening,
Speaker 12: groups of demonstrators were gathering on.
Speaker 5: The streets of London. You had the Iranian.
Speaker 12: Demonstrators who were backing the Ayatollah who believed that.
Speaker 8: This must be a CIA backed assault on.
Speaker 5: The Iranian embassy. The CIA was.
Speaker 12: Immediately blamed by the Iranian government for causing it. Of
Speaker 12: course they had actually nothing to do with it. It
Speaker 12: was all being done by Saddam Hustine. Then you had
Speaker 12: Americans in London demonstrating because they believed that somehow this
Speaker 12: was linked that the maybe Americans inside that embassy were
Speaker 12: being held hostage. Again, there were other people who believed
Speaker 12: that actually this must be the Iranians themselves launching an
Speaker 12: attack against their own embassy.
Speaker 5: And finally you have the traditional British football litigants.
Speaker 12: He turned up to toward the others and ended up
Speaker 12: in a sort of punch up with everybody else.
Speaker 8: So you've got a very complicated situation.
Speaker 12: That is is kind of spooning out from a central conflict.
Speaker 2: All right, more on this, Ben McIntyre. The siege and
Speaker 2: the anniversary of the Iranian hostage crisis is here.
Speaker 3: Thanks for the.
Speaker 8: Time, Great Leagus Scott, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: Thanks again today not only election day, but also the
Speaker 2: anniversary of the Iranian hostage crisis in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 2: and also the passing of Vice President Dick Cheney, who
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine was the freshman representative from the
Speaker 2: Great State of Wyoming. He had worked in the Ford
Speaker 2: White House, but later under Ronald Reagan. With Iran contra
Speaker 2: brewing in the mid nineteen eighties, a different Iran related
Speaker 2: scandal than we're talking about here, A problem I guess
Speaker 2: I should say, he was in the House Select Committee
Speaker 2: that investigated that and defended the Reagan administration and then
Speaker 2: of course years later becoming Vice President United States. Dick
Speaker 2: Cheney passing away overnight. It's a Scott Sloan show. This
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Speaker 3: Good morning, you have life.
Speaker 4: Everything's good, Scott, how are you today?
Speaker 3: Everything is fine, Everything is fine.
Speaker 2: But you're gonna tell me today with the markets and
Speaker 2: such which going on here on this election day, let's
Speaker 2: jump right in at the top interest rates cut by
Speaker 2: the Fed. That's was predicted by you. No big surprise
Speaker 2: right there, and that is the good news.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: I guess though that you could look at this and
Speaker 2: say that the chair Jerom Powell, the Fed really did
Speaker 2: a little unexpected thing here. What wasn't expected? How aggressive
Speaker 2: it was? Maybe another cut's coming up? Can you lay
Speaker 2: it out for us?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 9: So I think you need to remember that markets are
Speaker 9: predictive indicators of how investors feel about the economy. Looking out,
Speaker 9: let's say six months to a year. So we all
Speaker 9: know or thought we knew that there would be a cut,
Speaker 9: you know, this past week, and that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 9: And so the markets really haven't responded favorably one way
Speaker 9: or the other. And I think that, you know, what
Speaker 9: investors are really looking for is what we call guidance,
Speaker 9: and guidance is what the FED chair will say in
Speaker 9: the press conference after the decision is made. And he
Speaker 9: kind of threw a little bit of water on our
Speaker 9: optimism a little bit. And really what he said was
Speaker 9: is said, Okay, you know, I know that you're all
Speaker 9: thinking that there's going to be another cut December. He said, basically,
Speaker 9: hold your horses. We're not there yet. There has been
Speaker 9: some descent within the FED committee members about what direction
Speaker 9: we should go moving forward. He said, essentially, it's not
Speaker 9: a foregone conclusion. He said, we're far from that decision,
Speaker 9: even though that we believe that it's probably still going
Speaker 9: to happen in December. That really kind of put a
Speaker 9: damper on the optimism of investors in general.
Speaker 2: Okay, and then just laying this out there too, is
Speaker 2: that we're just going to keep going till we get
Speaker 2: a what point because you know, I'm talking to my
Speaker 2: wife about this. In the real estate markets, Uh, people
Speaker 2: are like, well, I'm just gonna wait till it goes
Speaker 2: back down the three percent.
Speaker 9: We're not gonna see those rates again. Uh, probably not.
Speaker 9: But he also said further that you know, if we
Speaker 9: don't cut in December, we're still probably gonna see cuts
Speaker 9: next year. That can amount to maybe one quarter percent cut,
Speaker 9: maybe three quarter percent cuts.
Speaker 4: We just don't know.
Speaker 9: And you know what the Fed is balancing right now
Speaker 9: is you know, what is inflation gonna do. If inflation
Speaker 9: remains pretty sticky, they're gonna hold off. They're gonna wait
Speaker 9: to see what happens. If the labor market starts to
Speaker 9: waiver a little bit more and we see more cracks
Speaker 9: in the labor market, maybe they become more aggressive. But
Speaker 9: what he basically, you know, his message was basically, we
Speaker 9: need to wait and see.
Speaker 4: You know, don't get your hopes up too quickly.
Speaker 3: All right, wait and see pump there.
Speaker 2: Well we'll see what December bus right, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: hear in a few short weeks anyway, so we're going
Speaker 2: to know sooner rather than later.
Speaker 3: So would you say like fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think.
Speaker 9: It's probably more two thirds likely that we do see
Speaker 9: it cut in December. Now, the Fed doesn't want to,
Speaker 9: you know, really reveal their hand, but I think it's
Speaker 9: more likely than not.
Speaker 2: All Right, I saw the markets jump over the last
Speaker 2: few days. For sure, Today can outlier, but it's because
Speaker 2: Trump and g met in South Korea and agreed on
Speaker 2: I guess tariff terms.
Speaker 3: But how did the markets react to that?
Speaker 2: Because we've heard that before, only to hear while more
Speaker 2: tariffs being threatened, and we've ignored the the negatives where
Speaker 2: the threat is going to be more tariffs. Do we
Speaker 2: also ignore the fact that China and the United States
Speaker 2: might have a deal here.
Speaker 4: I think there's two components to it.
Speaker 9: I think that investors like the fact that there's open
Speaker 9: dialogue between President Trump and President g They met in
Speaker 9: South Korea and agreed on several terms. Basically, they're hoping
Speaker 9: to de escalate the tension between you know, two economic superpowers. However,
Speaker 9: it's still more of kicking the can down the road,
Speaker 9: you know. It's it's one of those, you know, one
Speaker 9: of those deals, like Ronald Reagan said, you know, verify,
Speaker 9: you know, trust, but verify. China is going to purchase
Speaker 9: large amounts of US soybeans in the next three years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be good for farmers.
Speaker 9: But here, here's the deal about China, Scott, is that
Speaker 9: we've made deals with them before, but they haven't always
Speaker 9: followed through on those deals.
Speaker 4: And so we basically have said we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 4: make these deals.
Speaker 9: We're gonna give it a year and see and make
Speaker 9: sure that we have plans in place to verify these
Speaker 9: types of things, you know. And we're also gonna pause restrictions.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, China's gonna pause restrictions on rare earth exports
Speaker 9: over the next year. And that's important because those rare
Speaker 9: earth minerals are critical for not only components that we
Speaker 9: use with electronics and it, but also for our military.
Speaker 9: Trump agreed to scale back the fentanyl related terrorists from
Speaker 9: twenty percent to ten percent, and that basically results in
Speaker 9: an average of forty seven percent tariff on Chinese goods.
Speaker 4: So, you know, all of these things on paper sound good.
Speaker 9: Investors like the fact that, hey, we're coming to the
Speaker 9: table with China, but it still really remains to be
Speaker 9: seen whether these terras remain in place, whether China is
Speaker 9: acting in good faith with these UH lifted restrictions and
Speaker 9: continue to progress on deals between the world's biggest superpowers.
Speaker 2: Andy Schaeffer, we're also battling Venezuela over allegedly allegedly it
Speaker 2: is fentanyl coming across the Bard, and all the drug
Speaker 2: surveys and reports and everything say that is simply not
Speaker 2: not at all true. You mentioned rare with minerals, and
Speaker 2: I know that Venezuela has a significant deposit of those.
Speaker 2: Could that be what's going on here?
Speaker 9: Well, there's there's a couple of things with Venezuela, UH Venezuela. Essentially,
Speaker 9: we don't have a large trading relationship with Venezuela. So
Speaker 9: when you look at tariff conversations, in tariff talks, you know,
Speaker 9: going back to you know, the American Revolution, there were
Speaker 9: basically two reasons that we implemented terraffs. Alexander Hamilton wanted
Speaker 9: to get you know, a significant amount more revenue, you know,
Speaker 9: that's one of the benefits of terras. The other reason
Speaker 9: is that you want to bring more control back to
Speaker 9: your own industry and control you know.
Speaker 4: The production of goods.
Speaker 9: Well, Donald Trump is using it in another way, and
Speaker 9: one of the ways that he's using it is from
Speaker 9: a political sense, even though that we don't have a
Speaker 9: big trading relationship with Venezuela. Venezuela is supplying oil, rare
Speaker 9: earth minerals to a lot of you know, what we
Speaker 9: perceive as adversaries of the United States, And so what
Speaker 9: you can do with with Venezuela then is put a
Speaker 9: lot of restrictions on them to say, hey, don't start
Speaker 9: mining your rare minerals and sending them to a lot
Speaker 9: of our adversaries, you know, because we will be able
Speaker 9: to put restrictions and punish you significantly with a lot
Speaker 9: of our economic tools that we have in our pocket.
Speaker 9: And so I think it's more of a political play
Speaker 9: where we're trying to squeeze China, Russia and those types
Speaker 9: of countries and hurt Venezuela in the process because they
Speaker 9: are helping out a lot of our rivals.
Speaker 2: Obvious, the oil is a big one, they're the largest
Speaker 2: reserves in the world in Venezuela. Gold is another one
Speaker 2: as well. But the problem is it's such a battered
Speaker 2: and belaeguered country that we don't know we just assume
Speaker 2: they've got a lot of rare earth minerals because China's
Speaker 2: in there and they put tons of money into the
Speaker 2: mines in Venezuela. And I think maybe you know, he
Speaker 2: Ventanyl plays really well too. I think Trump's base for sure.
Speaker 2: But the reality is is little or no fentanyl. It's
Speaker 2: mainly you know, coming from Mexico and other countries have
Speaker 2: other South American countries, not Venezuela. There's a whole different
Speaker 2: dynamic there. But the pretext is, hey, you know what
Speaker 2: they're they're traveler blowing the boats up. Maybe we start
Speaker 2: launches inside of Venezuela. We want to change the regime there.
Speaker 2: It's more favorable for the United States, and now maybe
Speaker 2: we can overthrow things and turn the tide in our favor.
Speaker 2: That's I think the I think that's the real story
Speaker 2: that what's going on in Venezuela.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think there's you know, to a large degree,
Speaker 4: you're right there.
Speaker 9: You know the other thing about rare earth minerals, petroleum,
Speaker 9: oil and you know, energy.
Speaker 4: And things like that.
Speaker 9: The United States has a large reserves. The problem is
Speaker 9: is not having the access to those types of minerals
Speaker 9: and oil and things like that. The problem is is
Speaker 9: that we don't have the capability of the refinement that
Speaker 9: countries like China has, and so China is looking at, hey,
Speaker 9: what does our nation look like twenty five fifty years
Speaker 9: down the road. And so everybody right now is jocking
Speaker 9: for position to be able to have leverage not only
Speaker 9: just today and weeks ahead and over the next couple
Speaker 9: of years, but really looking out into the future for
Speaker 9: our next generations. And that's where we're really starting to
Speaker 9: try to position ourselves, not today, not tomorrow, but looking
Speaker 9: into the future.
Speaker 2: Now right it's the Geopolitical Roundtable. Andy Schaeffer from all
Speaker 2: Worth Financial here on seven hundred. Wow, this is some
Speaker 2: deep dive kind of stuff. This is like you know,
Speaker 2: NPR kind of this is high level stuff. We got
Speaker 2: go out of our.
Speaker 9: Brother Well, I think, you know, you have to plan ahead,
Speaker 9: you have to understand and when you know, in my industry,
Speaker 9: when you're talking about investing, you have to understand what
Speaker 9: makes sense from making a smart investment and what does
Speaker 9: our country look like not only tomorrow, the next day
Speaker 9: or the day after that, but what makes sense moving
Speaker 9: forward and what direction is our errow moving? Not only
Speaker 9: you know you know, from a labor market standpoint, but
Speaker 9: also what sectors look more promising, and that's really important
Speaker 9: to make good decisions within my client's portfolio and for
Speaker 9: investors in general.
Speaker 2: All Right, the threat of AI is all looming. All
Speaker 2: the news this week is not all of it, but
Speaker 2: it feels like everything is filtered to the context of AI.
Speaker 2: This changing dynamic, you know, the it's the next industrial
Speaker 2: revolution that's going on right near and people are losing
Speaker 2: their jobs. And we said, we're seeing you know, entry
Speaker 2: level white collar jobs disappear as a result of this.
Speaker 2: And the idea that's going to take all jobs away,
Speaker 2: I think is kind of silly because if you go
Speaker 2: back to any technological revolution, it's always the threat of,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is going to destroy all these jobs.
Speaker 2: You know, back in the day when you had typewriters
Speaker 2: or exactly type is now you know, we have AI,
Speaker 2: and type has took away all the people doing calligraphy
Speaker 2: and writing things by hand. So we just morph into
Speaker 2: different jobs.
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, I remember typing papers and junior high on
Speaker 9: a typewriter, and you know, and and and that didn't
Speaker 9: eliminate a lot of jobs. When we moved into computer
Speaker 9: and it did. In the late nineties when we developed
Speaker 9: the Internet, there was a lot of fear there. And
Speaker 9: I think right now people just don't know really what
Speaker 9: to make of AI. And I think that AI is
Speaker 9: here to stay. It is a major revolution. If businesses
Speaker 9: are not looking into adding AI into to become a
Speaker 9: major component of their business, they will probably falter and
Speaker 9: maybe dissipate and an underperform. And I think that I
Speaker 9: think investors understand that that is the future. I use
Speaker 9: AI within my job. My wife the other night was
Speaker 9: looking to add a mantle over our fireplace.
Speaker 4: Well, she could type in something on AI and.
Speaker 9: It builds this big picture of all these different types
Speaker 9: of aesthetics to that picture and helps you shop for
Speaker 9: those types of proper.
Speaker 4: So AI is here to stay. Now.
Speaker 9: There is overvaluation there, and what I mean by that
Speaker 9: is the price for stocks that are invested in AI
Speaker 9: are elevated versus what their earnings are today. And the
Speaker 9: bed is is that these companies are going to continue
Speaker 9: to generate revenue trillions of dollars over the next five years.
Speaker 9: And so I'm willing to pay this elevated price today
Speaker 9: for the opportunity for the prospect that these companies will
Speaker 9: continue to perform in the future.
Speaker 4: And I think that's a good bet.
Speaker 9: Now, if you ever see any types of earnings reports
Speaker 9: that falter a little bit versus the estimates, you're going
Speaker 9: to see a little bit of a pullback. And that's
Speaker 9: kind of what we've seen over the last couple of days,
Speaker 9: is that people are getting a little bit tired of
Speaker 9: these elevated prices and are almost looking for a reason.
Speaker 4: To lock in those gains. But I do think you
Speaker 4: guys here to stay.
Speaker 9: I do still think it's a good investment, and I
Speaker 9: think that you need to have it as a piece.
Speaker 4: Of your portfolio.
Speaker 3: And certainly it's not going anywhere. It's here.
Speaker 2: But the idea that this is going to somehow destroy it.
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna take some jobs away, but they'll create
Speaker 2: jobs and other sectors, we don't know. That's the way
Speaker 2: it's always been. Any technology comes along, and the car
Speaker 2: comes along, Oh my god, the horse. What are we
Speaker 2: going to do with the horseshoeers and the guys who
Speaker 2: farm hay? And you know, again, everybody just finds new jobs.
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of the way it is. You do
Speaker 2: be wind to pivot do something else. Let's take a
Speaker 2: look at the week ahead. Here we are into the
Speaker 2: I don't know, the third year of the government shutdown.
Speaker 3: I've lost track of this whole thing.
Speaker 2: We're not getting any official economic data out as with
Speaker 2: all of that, but again, the markets will figure it out,
Speaker 2: so they're going to come up with some fougazy reports here, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think so.
Speaker 9: And you know, it is a challenge to you know,
Speaker 9: to really get an understanding where we are from an
Speaker 9: economic point of view.
Speaker 4: You know, there's really a.
Speaker 9: Lack of economic releases due to the shutdown, but there
Speaker 9: are some there is some private data updates. We are
Speaker 9: going to get the ISM Manufacturing and Services Survey and
Speaker 9: the ice CM is basically the Institute for Supply Management
Speaker 9: and what they do is basically pull a lot of
Speaker 9: supply managers of different industries to find out whether they
Speaker 9: feel like you're going to increase your purchases of supply
Speaker 9: or you're going to reduce your your purchases of supply.
Speaker 9: And that gives us an idea of, you know, the
Speaker 9: optimism or lack thereof, of how these supply managers feel
Speaker 9: about them. So that will be interesting to see, you know,
Speaker 9: we'll also see what the jobs reports will do. ADP
Speaker 9: will provide some data of employer payrolls. Again, ADP is
Speaker 9: a private sector business, so we can get some data.
Speaker 9: We're just not giving it getting it from a government's perspective.
Speaker 2: Okay, And we've got big companies that are going to
Speaker 2: report profits, and we'll have a bigger picture too. We'll
Speaker 2: see how how those influenced the markets coming up. We're
Speaker 2: all have a pretty good idea if these big large
Speaker 2: cap companies are the big ones here, like you know,
Speaker 2: Marathon and McDonald's, it doesn't get bigger than that. They
Speaker 2: report their earnings, we'll find out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you know, right now it's earning season.
Speaker 9: You know, we want to make sure that we see
Speaker 9: how companies are going to continue to perform, you know,
Speaker 9: what their prospects are. We get guidance from them as well.
Speaker 9: You know, a lot of times you'll get on conference
Speaker 9: calls with some of the executives and they'll say, here's
Speaker 9: you know, here's what we think we look like over
Speaker 9: the next six months to a year. So that guidance
Speaker 9: is going to get them be important. We're going to
Speaker 9: get one hundred and twenty eight large cap companies that
Speaker 9: are going to report profits.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 9: You mentioned Marathon McDonald Humana as well, so that will
Speaker 9: be interesting. And again we're gonna get a lot of
Speaker 9: FED speeches as we always do, so it'll be interesting
Speaker 9: to see what the FED has to say this week
Speaker 9: about the lack of data and what their guidance is
Speaker 9: moving forward as well.
Speaker 2: All Right, Andy Schaeffer all Worth Financial. The show is
Speaker 2: simply Money weeknights at six on fifty five KRC. He
Speaker 2: jumps into every Tuesday morning talk about stuff that's happening
Speaker 2: and influencing your wallet, including geopolitics for that matter. Fascinating, fascinating.
Speaker 2: I feel like we should be smoking cigars, sitting in
Speaker 2: a room somewhere and scotch and plotting the overthrow of Maduro.
Speaker 2: All right, gotta go, Andy, appreciate it all.
Speaker 4: Thanks, got all right, set it up. I'll see you
Speaker 4: all right, there.
Speaker 2: You go, big Scotch drinker, that Andy Shaffer, big Scotch drinker.
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