1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: To noon, very happy at this time each and every 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: week to be joined by Ben Lieber, former Minnesota Vikings 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: linebacker at Nacho liber Is where you find him VX 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: and you can watch him on the television each and 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: every weekday. It is Twin Cities Live three to four 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: thirty on Channel five, Twin Cities Live. If you have 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: not seen the weekday bit on Channel five, TCL is 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: fresh and clever and authentic and next level. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: Welcome Ben. Well, it's funny because the other day I 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: was obviously just joking and having fun. I also said 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: our show is silly and stupid, which you. 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Know, you say that about The Power Trip, nobody thinks 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: twice say it about a big time TV show. 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: And yeah, well, I mean I think everybody understands. I mean, 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: even it's like she's like stupid. I'm like, you know, 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: I say, in a very endearing way, this is a silly, 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: stupid little program that we just love to entertain people 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: in education, people and what's going on in the Twin 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 2: Cities and abroads. 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, wells are tuning in most Twin Cities Live three 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: to four thirty each and every weekday on Channel five. 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: It's TCL. 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we and for those who haven't seen 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: it of late, just to know that it's fresh and 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 1: clever and authentic and next level and offers very very 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: intelligent repartee. Let's play a game to start. Okay, the 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: game is called how bad is it If? How bad 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: is it if? And we'll start here. Okay, how bad 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: is it? If Aaron Jones doesn't play against the Baltimore 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: Ravens na cheeto, it's not great? 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would prefer that he plays. We saw it, 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: We saw it all. We all saw it. The way 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: that he ran the football, the way that he was 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: doing a knife through that line's defense, and he gives 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: us a different element. And as much as I love 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: Jordan Mason for what he is, I think we're seeing 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: that there is a thunder and enlightening to this running 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: back room. And we kind of forgotten that when he 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: was out with this hamstring injury, and then we saw 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: it again and we're like, see, that's that's what our 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: run game is supposed to look like. That right there 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: is what it's supposed to look like. And that's how 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: our play action plays a big part in all of this. 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: Pass protection though, pass protection is another huge thing the 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: guy's tough as nails. He's a little mighty mouse out 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: there when he comes to pass protection. So yes, I 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: think how bad is it if? I think it's pretty 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: bad if he doesn't play. 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: Before I make this proclamation about the Ravens defense, I'm 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: hoping you know more about number forty for them. He 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: is a cal rookie taken in the fourth round. His 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: name's Teddy Buchanan, but it's ted dye. I think it's 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: Teddy Teddy Buchanan. Here's the reason I ask, Well, he's 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: their leading tackler. Who knew something called Teddy Buchanan leads 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: them in tackles. Here's the acclamation. While you got some 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: big names over there, like veteran John Jenkins, Kyle Vanoy, 57 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, Rokwan Smith, so on, Marlon Humphrey, so on 58 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: and so on, it's it's a big, physical, lumbering defense. 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: It ain't that fast. Kyle Hamilton's good, he ain't that fast. 60 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Teddy Buchanan. I'm hoping he's 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: not that fast. Because here's the point. How bad is 62 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: it if Aaron Jones doesn't play well? I mean it's 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: negative because he's really good. But he's also really fast. 64 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: And the more speed you can put against these big, old, 65 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: lumbering beef eaters, the better chance I think you have 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: to win. 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You know, I'm so glad, 68 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: you know, when somebody like you, Eddy Buchanan, when somebody 69 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: like you sort of corroborates what I'm thinking as I'm 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: doing my research, it makes me feel really good about 71 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: sort of my my take on the whole thing. 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: That well, that's very kind of you, but you played 73 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: the games and we steal takes from you, not vice versa. 74 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: Listen, you've seen a lot of football. You've seen lots 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: of different varieties of football. I tend to agree. I mean, 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: this defense, although it's become they're bowing up the last 77 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, especially in the run game, playing much better, 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: little schematic change with your guy number fourteen, Kyla Hamilton 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: in the way that they use him. But overall, when 80 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: I turned the film on, I'm like, boy, they seem slow. 81 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: They seem like they are not the quick twitch, violent 82 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: play with the sense of urgency and hair on fire 83 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: defense that I think that we have always kind of 84 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: associated with the Ravens. Maybe that's partly why they're thinking 85 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: about bringing ray Lewis back in a conciliatory role on 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: defense and on the team. They kind of bring in 87 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: this juice in this a different mentality. I think that 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: is that's definitely what is missing. The mentality doesn't seem 89 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: to be there unless. 90 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: Teddy Buchanan's a four to two guy we've never heard 91 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the whole. 92 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: Game has changed. Yeah, the the and and maybe Draymont 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: Jones makes a difference. Maybe he's the missing link to 94 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: all this. They make, they make the trade before the 95 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: trade deadline. They bring in a pass rusher, which they need. 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: They get a little fresher, a little quicker. But I 97 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: don't know, man. I mean, I think having obviously having 98 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: an Aaron Jones type guy in the backfield would really 99 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: knife through this defense like we did against the Lions. 100 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: But I agree with you, and it feels good, feels 101 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: good to be validated in that way that you kind 102 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: of see their defense the same way I do. 103 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: No team ever wants to trail in a football game. 104 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: But how bad would it be ben if the Vikings 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: are put in a spot where they spend most of 106 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: the game chasing Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry and that Ravens offense. 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: That would be less than ideal, not a good situation 108 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: to be in. We we handled the first wave of 109 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: the Lions on that first drive. We we didn't back down. 110 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: We came right back and then from there on out 111 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: it seemed like we took control. It's gonna take that 112 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: sort of concerted effort in this game to come out victorious. 113 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: And as you guys probably already mentioned, they are completely 114 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: healthy football team. There's not one person on the on 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: the injury report, which is so rare. I've never seen that. Yeah, 116 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: I especially yesterday, this time of the year, this time 117 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: of year, and I get that they're they're coming off 118 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: a middle mini bye week as well, playing on the 119 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: Thursday night game against the Dolphins. But man, to have 120 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: a completely healthy team and all that stuff. We know 121 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: that Henry's gonna be hard to stop. You can do it. 122 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: He's not like none of these none of these guys 123 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: are superman. You know, they're not immortal. We've definitely seen them. 124 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: Take comfort in the fact that lots of teams have 125 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: bottled up their running back. It's just that if Henry 126 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: gets going. We saw the first game of the season 127 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: when when he gets going and gets loose and he 128 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: and they jump on you and they'll they take your soul, 129 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: then it's a long day, Lamar. We've seen it. We've 130 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: eve been playing against them at at Baltimore now early 131 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: in his career, but we've seen him be put on 132 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: games where he's inaccurate, he's flustered, he sees ghosts, he's 133 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: unsure about what coverage these he puts. You know, he's 134 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: inaccurate with his throws this year, he's on one. He's 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: extremely efficient, he's doing a great job taking care of 136 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: the football, all of that stuff. But it's not like 137 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: this guy's immortal. If we can get apply pressure, bottle 138 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: him up, make him second guess some things, disguise some 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: coverages like we did such a good job of last week, 140 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: we can get to him. So, yes, they are formidable, 141 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: and yes you don't want to be behind the chains, 142 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: and yes you want to play with the lead, all 143 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: that stuff being said, but if it doesn't happen, it 144 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's the end of the world. So I 145 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: guess ideally, ideally we wouldn't be controlling this game. But 146 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: I don't think that these guys are like the most 147 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: complete team in the league, and we could be so 148 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: fearful of. 149 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Them, Bett Lieber, how bad is it if the Ravens 150 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: run for one fifty and one? Would you take that 151 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: right now? One fifty and one rushing touchdown? 152 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: No? No, that seems no. I think I think that 153 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: seems at that seems like a lot, you. 154 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: Know, but it's only it's only one rushing touchdown. So 155 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: here's the rub. Ah, here's the rub. That means they're 156 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: becoming more reliant on Lamar throwing touchdowns than running into 157 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: three or four. 158 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that don't just consider that. Yeah, but that 159 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: also means to me, that's a boxbox box nor do 160 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: it your turn? Yeah, I knew when I wrote it, 161 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: I didn't like it. Boxbox box. That means one of 162 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: their boy I know, I know, I know. 163 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Ricarda's thirty five and wo okay, what's next? 164 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: Well, I just asked him if it's better that they 165 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: don't play from behind the whole game, So let's let's 166 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: try and change. Is I have something too? Fat? I 167 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: have something here more season at large, maybe into the future. 168 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: How bad is it if Blake Brandell is our starting 169 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: center for the rest of the season, and how bad 170 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: is it if he was our starting center in twenty 171 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: twenty six. 172 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: I saw Ryan Kelly on a side field yesterday right 173 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: next to Josh Oliver. They were on the field known 174 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: as the Mike Ues Memorial Field. 175 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to have Kelly back. I think 176 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: he gives us a little bit more of a of 177 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: a comfort blanket in that situation. But that's not, as 178 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: you know, totally a slight on the the huge strides 179 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: that Brandell has has shown us. Yep, I'm mad at 180 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: the fact that if he is our starting center for 181 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: this year, and really, honestly, if he keeps improving the 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: way that he does and he starts getting more and 183 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: more comfortable with that position, I ain't mad if he's 184 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: our starting center next year. I'm really not like the guy. 185 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: What he's been able to do on this team to 186 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: be a do everything offensive lineman. Put him anywhere across 187 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: the line, he gives you a really solid game, and 188 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: if he really settles in that center spot, I'm cool 189 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: with it. 190 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Well, this week he'll he will be opposite the likes 191 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: of John Jenkins, thirteenth year from Georgia, a former Raider 192 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: behind him, you got Rokwan Smith again. 193 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: Roquan hits hard, Roquan ain't fast. 194 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: Yep, you got something called Travis Jones in his fourth 195 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: year from Yukon. David Ojabo, fourth year from Michigan, played 196 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: with JJ Brent Urban thirteenth year from Virginia. They're just 197 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: slow and old, I mean just, I mean curious. 198 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: Easy though. I know, but I don't want to give 199 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: everybody this soft, this this wee, I know, this false 200 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: sense of security because again, it is about it is 201 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: about what they've done to turn the page defensive and 202 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: and that is something that they're hanging their hat on 203 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: that and that's actually what's given that team a lot 204 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: of hope in their fan base, a lot of hope 205 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: is that, yes, in the last three weeks they've stop 206 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: the run. They are not just this like sieve on 207 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: a running game where they're just like giving up all 208 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: these yards and they don't look slow, and they don't 209 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: look like they're out of place, and they don't look 210 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: like they don't know what they're doing. The last three 211 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: weeks they played really really well against the run. And 212 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 2: it's this, It is a philosophical shift. It is getting 213 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton in the box. It is getting Kyle Hamilton 214 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: Hamilton into that that Harrison Smith role where he's literally 215 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage. He's on the edge of 216 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, He's a couple of yards off 217 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: the ball, and he's not necessarily be there just to 218 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: rotate back. They get Malachi Starks their rookie safety is 219 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: that part of getting confidence in him. 220 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: Though when you think about the ability to push Hamilton 221 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: up into the box and operate that way, that you 222 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: got to trust Malachi out. 223 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Back, well, it sounds like it's a little bit of 224 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: like they've had to force their hand into finding answers. 225 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: And so I think if they started the year with 226 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 2: Kyle Moore on that hybrid role safety in the box player, 227 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: they would have stuck with it. But I think it's 228 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: happened in the conjunction with the fact that they haven't 229 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: stopped the run very well, they haven't disguised looks very well, 230 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: and the development of Malachi being a rookie, it's like 231 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: it's taken him some time to kind of get comfortable 232 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: with his role, and so I think it all has 233 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: happened around the same time. And because Kyle's been asked 234 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: to do a lot of different things since he was 235 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: brought in. They're like, well, he's versatile enough, maybe we 236 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: can just like move him down the box and was 237 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: to almost a permanent Joshuma Tellus sort of role versus 238 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: a Harrison Smith role. It's working out, and it sounds 239 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: like they're very excited about what Starks can do on 240 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: the back end as well, to be sort of that 241 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: coverage guy and that over the top defender. 242 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: And lastly, lastly for the baby game, Ben Lieber, how 243 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: bad would it be for Vikings fans if Sam Darnold 244 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: leads the Seahawks to the NFC title game? 245 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: Listen, well liber style Listen, Vikings fans, you got to 246 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: put that one to bed, you know, you you just 247 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: do the thing is like you we were the plan 248 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: was to always have McCarthy, you know, a McCarthy type 249 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: player take over this team. You know, we for so long, 250 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: ever since Koc got this job, it just seemed like, look, 251 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: we love Kirk Cousins, but wouldn't it be nice to 252 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: get out from underneath this guaranteed contract, have a little 253 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: bit more flexibility, develop an actual quarterback that you know, 254 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: we can get on the cheap for a couple of 255 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: years before you really have to pay him and sort 256 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: of build this team from the ground up foundationally with 257 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: some really good young players. That's that. That to me, 258 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: has been the whole idea. And and I don't think, 259 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: you know, going away from that and having Sam Darnold 260 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: and paying him, you know, a huge second contract would 261 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: have been necessarily the right move. So oh, let's just 262 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: I know it's difficult. I get it. I know it's 263 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: difficult because I feel like we all feel like we 264 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: turn this guy into what he is now and now 265 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: look at him and what he's doing with Seattle Boy. 266 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: That could be us. Yeah, it could be, but that's 267 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: that's not part of the plan. 268 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: Whoop them not your style, liber bade the music, fire 269 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: up the elite football mind then Libert Notcho LIBERVX. Our 270 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: segments are provided by Children's Cancer Research Fund. 271 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah everybody knows talked about him quite a bit on 272 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: this show that they're a local cancer research charity not 273 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: only just to help the kids, but also to help 274 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: the families and they would love love your support, So 275 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: you can find them at Cure dot Children's cancer dot org. Listen, 276 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: you can do a dollar. You know you can do 277 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: a monthly payment of a dollar. It can be five dollars, 278 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: it can be ten dollars, twenty five dollars, one hundred dollars. 279 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: They would they would take anything in that you can 280 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: to help out these kids in these families. 281 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: So thank you, Ben leberm with the something that came 282 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: up a few days ago nine to noon I think 283 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: it was Tuesday, a couple of days ago. Excited to 284 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: talk to you about it. Sources tell me that you 285 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: opined on it this morning. Sadly I missed him. Little 286 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: baby Khalif Raymon, where's number eleven? Goes in motion to 287 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: the right of the formation, smacks the gik is on fire. 288 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: When the gank is on fire, did not see him 289 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: coming now Andrew was firing off for what looked to 290 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: be some form of a pass rush. Khalif gets him 291 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: middle of his upper body, knocks him out, neck snaps, 292 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: neck hits ground and yesterday on the side of Vikings 293 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: practice that actually was was kind of a juicy talker 294 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: between several of us, and my initial take was because 295 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't know the letter of the proverbial law when 296 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: it comes to hitting players, blind siding you know, when 297 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: they don't know what's coming. So that's that's that's FIJA 298 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: fairness and host act. I do not know how the 299 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: rule is written. What I do know is every coach 300 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: in the National Football League and throughout the annals of 301 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: time pushes the envelope when players are coming back from injury, 302 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: specifically very important players like Andrew van Ginkel. When I 303 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: saw that play, and I saw Monday night shared it 304 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: with a Nordo on Tuesday on the radio, which subsequently 305 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: means sharing it with the audience. My initial thought was, Hmmm, 306 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: we got an envelope pusher here. Dan Campbell just wants 307 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: to make sure one of your better players is all 308 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: squared away after missing a month plus with injury. And 309 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: I felt it was a legal hit. Now the gink 310 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,119 Speaker 1: is on fire thought it was a dirty hit. Mattellis 311 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: and some others on defense thought it was a dirty hit. 312 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: What did you think about that? I thought it was 313 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: a dirty hit too. 314 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: Why so, the way that I understand, I'm trying to 315 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: understand this rule, because it really hasn't come up lately. 316 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: The whole heinz War idea of crackbacking on defenseless players 317 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: in a blind side manner where now the force of 318 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: impact was on the front part of Gank's body, so 319 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: it's not like he got hit in the back sor 320 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: like Brian Branch got hit in the back by Smith Schuster, 321 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: which was another dirty hit, and I understand why he 322 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: was pissed off about that as well. If I if 323 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: I can interpret the rule, and please out there correct 324 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong that if you're lined if you're 325 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 2: lined up in a reduced or compressed formation, and you're 326 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: deemed in the box, you're allowed to hit that guy 327 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: in a legal manner, just like he hit him front part, 328 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: even if he's looking at you or not. I got you. 329 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 2: He can hit you in the front and he can 330 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: block you. Now if you motion into Yeah, if you 331 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: start outside of said box, belief was outside the numbers 332 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: when he started. Correct, if you are outside of said box, 333 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: either a motion or post snap, come into the box 334 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: and hit a player in the box in that manner. 335 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: I thought that that was the rule that they got 336 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: rid of. That was the Heinz Ward rule that they 337 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: got rid of. That's an illegal crackback block on a 338 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: defenseless player when it looks like that's what it looked 339 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: like in the game and they don't call it. It's 340 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: an egregious miss because it's not like he just got 341 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: hit and he just kind of wobbled. He got decleted. 342 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: So how does a referee not see this player fly 343 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: through the air? Fortunately for us, they throw a screen 344 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: pass right at his feet and he makes the tackle. 345 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: But how do you how do you miss that? How 346 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: do you miss that call? That wasn't as egregious of 347 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: an illegal block in front of the officials because he's 348 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: outside of the outside of the box. So does Gink 349 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: and Mattelus and the rest of the defensive players and 350 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: staff have a right to feel like that that was 351 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: a dirty hit? Got it? 352 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: Now? 353 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: Do I think that? Well? 354 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: Gank's neck went to snap in twice, so I looked 355 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: at it, like Campbell's like, and that's without knowing that, Okay, 356 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: Campbell's like, neck hint. Yeah, See, that's I want to 357 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: I want to make we just want to make sure 358 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: you're all squared away. 359 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: It happens all the time. See, that's the thing that 360 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: that's where I I'm not gonna go there with that 361 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: because I have a lot of respect for Dan Campbell 362 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: and I he's a former player that I think ultimately 363 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: doesn't want to play a dirty game. I don't think 364 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: that that was intentionally dirty. Maybe it was a misformation 365 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: by Raymond. Maybe he was supposed to be lined up 366 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: in the box and a little bit and so he 367 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: was within the rules. Whether that was intentional to gink 368 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: and test his neck, I don't necessarily think so. I 369 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: think he just happened to be the edge guy on 370 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: that particular It could have been Gernard. It could have 371 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: been Gernard on that side. You know, they do flop 372 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: those guys around a little bit. So I'd like to 373 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: think that that was not an intentional play to try 374 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: to test one of our injured, injured players. It was 375 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: just one of those egregious penalties that got missed. Well, 376 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: this is the NFL, not the NHL. 377 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: However, in the NHL, which may become the NFL, in 378 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: this situation, does that mean you just remember it, you 379 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: mark it down, shove it off to the side. Lions 380 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: are here. Whenever the Lions are here and you catch 381 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Khalif Raymond, Yes, and it does. I think some players 382 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: like that. They talk about that and stuff like, oh okay, dog, 383 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: I got you Next time, yes, absolutely. Guys will say, 384 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, I got you so and so number like 385 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: you'll go back to your your guys. And you know, 386 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's an intentional like hit. You know, 387 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: it's not like they put a marker on this guy. 388 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: But I think if you have the opportunity, let's just 389 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: say it picks. You know, interception, situation, belief is on 390 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: Cleif's backside. He's not looking. Wow, take your shot, bro, 391 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: take your shot. Ben Leber at natcha Labor. Wow, that 392 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: was violent, just the way you said it has scared 393 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: me all right around the corner. Some McCarthy conversation and 394 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: also proper routes to corralling a quarterback who run like 395 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. And there are two pieces of reference that 396 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: are going to hit Ben hard and I can't wait 397 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: to hear what he has to say. 398 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: But first, the fan along with two men in a 399 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: junk truck, want to give you a shot at some 400 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 3: bonus bucks with the National Cash Contest. This hour's keyword 401 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 3: is money. Use the keyword money at kfan dot com. 402 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: You might win with the keyword money at kfan dot 403 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 3: Welcome back nine to Noon, Ben Lieber and Studio and 404 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: you heard that audio there, Ben from JJ McCarthy. What 405 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: do you think building confidence off the w you heard it, 406 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: it's onto the next one full week of practice and 407 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: rhythm for him. But game two of JJ Take two 408 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 3: against the Ravens this weekend. What excites you about it? 409 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: Well, let me just go back and talk about the 410 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: mindset that he's talking about, because you know, I'd never 411 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: really heard consistency and motivation and focus sort of presented 412 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: in this way until I got to the NFL and 413 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: I was being coached by Already Schoenheimer, and I just 414 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 2: I just loved all of a lot of his speeches, 415 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: and he's very very articulate in his thoughts, and he 416 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: was always trying to motivate us in just different ways. 417 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: And you know, we're all kind of built to talk 418 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: about you're only as good as the game that you 419 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: just played, right, and that that was like always sort 420 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: of beat into you, like, listen, you can't rely on 421 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: anything else than the product that you just put out. 422 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: But he changed that mindset for me because he would 423 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: talk about you're only as good as your next game, 424 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: and you're only as good as your next play, And 425 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: so I know it sounds silly because you're just kind 426 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: of shifting the verbiage around a little bit, right, But 427 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: when you think about what that means, it's like, yeah, 428 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: you're right, turning the page, flushing it, doing all this 429 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: other stuff. It's like it's easier to do all of 430 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: that when you think about it in this context of like, 431 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: I have to prove myself each and every opportunity, not 432 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: the opportunity I just had, but the one that's coming up. 433 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: And so I think for all of these guys, and 434 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: you know they have the right mindset, yeah, you cannot 435 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: rest on your laurels. You can't look back and say like, yeah, 436 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: I feel I'm feeling myself right now because we played 437 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: really well. I made some really great throws, I had 438 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 2: the right approach, I checked out as certain things did 439 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: I played the game that were supposed to be played. 440 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: That's great, But you know what, after twenty four hours 441 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 2: after you get to like revel in that you're only 442 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: as good as your next game, and you really, honestly, 443 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: the way you really statistically when I approach is like 444 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 2: you're only as good as your next practice. And if 445 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 2: you take that mindset, that's what keeps you hungry that's 446 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: what keeps you motivated. It can be terribly exhausting and 447 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: it plays a lot of mental tricks on you. But 448 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: you want to develop a mental toughness and this drive. 449 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: You take that approach it like I'm only as good 450 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: as my next practice, and then I'm always good as 451 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: my next rep. And that'll keep you going. Man. And 452 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you've developed this, uh, this 453 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: edge where you're going into every game just hungry to 454 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: prove yourself over and over again. 455 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: What are some ways you think Flores may come bat 456 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. 457 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: Well on paper, on paper when it comes to rush lanes, 458 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: you know, I think the one thing that that they'll 459 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: try to do is a lot of the same stuff 460 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: that you saw against against Jared Goff. They they really 461 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: want to test these the guard center guard combination that 462 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: those those three guys, that that little battery has not 463 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: been great. It's the weakness of their offensive line and 464 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: they have not been happy about it. They were hoping, 465 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: they were hoping to pick up Kevin Zeitdler in the 466 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: before the trade deadline. Faw Lelly has not played very well. 467 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: He's been inconsistent. So I think that you have to 468 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: expose those guys anyway that you can, whether it's you know, 469 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: our twist game. Our twist game was awesome last week. 470 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: Our guys moving around, which I think is a large 471 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: reason why Hargrave have had such a good game. It's 472 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: like we really kept those guys mobile and moving and 473 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: attacking the gap and tacking half a body and all 474 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: this other stuff. I think we still have to do 475 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: that in this game, but the difference is we need 476 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: to somehow funnel again on paper, funnel Lamar Jackson to 477 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: where he's got happy feet and he's got to move 478 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: around the pocket, but never really break the pocket. And 479 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: that's really really difficult to do with such an athletic quarterback, 480 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: and a lot of people do it. So that means 481 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: more of a controlled rush on the outside. It's like, hey, 482 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: guys on the inside, you go eat, you do what 483 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: you guys need to do. You guys fluster him, get 484 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 2: him to feel that pressure inside to where he's got 485 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: to pull the ball down. He's got to pull his 486 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: eyes down just slightly, make him shift his feet around, 487 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: see if he can try to escape. But it becomes 488 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: more of a speed to power on the outside to 489 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: where you're engaging those tackles, pushing them back, but then 490 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: ultimately keeping in arms like distance, being able to disengage, 491 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: can't get swallowed up, can't get grabbed, can't get pulled 492 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: into those big guys, And you want to stay in 493 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: arm length away and be more controlled. And it might 494 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: look like we're not doing our job and getting to 495 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: the quarterback and getting quarterback hits, but it's more about 496 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: making him panic inside the pocket. And again that's difficult 497 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: to do on the front end at the front of 498 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: our defense, and then obviously in the back end. Anything 499 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: that we can do to disguise them, disguised coverages, give 500 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: them a secondary looks, all of that stuff, that'll be huge. 501 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeahn memory Lane we go. 502 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: Ben Leber played Mike Vick twice two thousand and four 503 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: with the Chargers twenty ten on that Tuesday and pilling 504 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: when Ben wore purple and gold. So let's start here. 505 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: Who's better and why? Vic or Lamar Jackson. 506 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: Man. 507 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately I've never played against Lamar. You have three 508 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: tackles in each games, by the way, they were all solo, 509 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: and four of the six run BA they didn't have 510 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: me getting pancake by Algie Crumpler. 511 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: That's good that happen. Yeah, it happened. Instead of a 512 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: bitch like put his hands on me and like me Algae, 513 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: Crumpler was a dog. He was a dog man, was 514 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: a big man. It was a different Yeah, you want 515 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: to talk about like you want to talk about Mount 516 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: Washington that they have they have in Pittsburgh right now, 517 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: like they were building tight ends like that when I 518 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: was playing. 519 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, you had at least three solo tackles on 520 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Mike Vick. It might have been two, which means that 521 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: somehow you're like an open field with Vic and you 522 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: got him. 523 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: I don't know what. Honestly, it might have been zero, 524 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: but never Yeah, two sounds like better than zero. Copyright 525 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: noon to three. Okay, So let me just say that 526 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: I think Lamar Jackson is better than Michael Vick. And 527 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: I will say it because the era that I played in, 528 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: our defenses were not built to be in space as much. 529 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: Our defensive players were bigger, we were more downhill. It 530 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: was a little bit sixty to forty more run to pass. 531 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: It seemed like we were there to stop the run. 532 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: And when you had a mobile quarterback like Michael Vick, 533 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: that was just electric with a you know, a canon 534 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: of an arm right that could do a lot of things. 535 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: He was playing in an era that he was like generationally, 536 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: I think in the wrong situation. He was in the 537 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: wrong era to play what he the style of the 538 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: stylistic So I think he was made to look even 539 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: better because he was playing against body types in a 540 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: game that wasn't really suit to stop people like that. 541 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 2: He was the outlier. Lamar is doing it in an 542 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: era where football is built like that. You see lots 543 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: of multiple dual threat quarterbacks. A lot of these a 544 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: lot of these young players in college are playing dual 545 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: threat quarterbacks. They understand what read option looks like. They understand, 546 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: you know what a quarterback that can break the pocket 547 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: and move around and be athletic and do all that 548 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: other stuff. They're built for that. So the fact that 549 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: he's having success against defenses that are tailor made to 550 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: stop guys like him and got in offenses like him, 551 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: I think it's even more impressive what he's doing now. Lastly, 552 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: in the silence, you hear is lambeau Field. Who do 553 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: you like in that Billy Green Bay game? I like 554 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: Philly Mine. I think Philly's getting their swagger back, and 555 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: you saw it against us. And I think that they're 556 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: probably getting a little healthier on the offensive line as well, 557 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: which is helping us well. And they are more even 558 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: when they're quote unquote down, they're more consistent in what 559 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: their operation is versus what I think Green Bay has 560 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: been doing. It's got to be maddening, I think right 561 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: now to be a Green Bay Packer fan, because you 562 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: don't know what you got in your football team. You know, 563 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: they show up when they want to show up and 564 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: play well. Then all of a sudden, you know, you 565 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: lay an egg like you did against Carolina, and it's like, 566 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: what are you guys doing? Who are you? You know, 567 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: they haven't been able to hit the deep ball very successfully. 568 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: They've got injuries now that are going to mount up 569 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: and I think really impact this offense. I mean, Tucker 570 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: Craft is one of the best offensive weapons in the league, 571 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: let alone just on their football team. And so you know, 572 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: I have a ton of respect for that guy, and 573 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: I it sucks that he's going through is going through, 574 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: but it's gonna be really hard to replace that guy. 575 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: And they haven't found a consistent deep threat again, Like 576 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: I was saying, and you've you've lost your short to 577 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: intermediate player and you're a playmaker and you're tight end 578 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: as well. So I'm gonna go with the Eagles on 579 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: this one, not. 580 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: You man, Ben Leber at Nacho liber via Twitter TV 581 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: Today three to four thirty, Channel five. 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You pick the 599 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: winners of the NFL weekend of games, and then there 600 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: are weekly winners, a little walking around money, and then 601 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: at the end of the year, somebody's going to win 602 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 3: free fuel for a year courtesy of Quick Trip. So 603 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: thank you Quick Trip, Thank you Canterbury. I want to 604 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: start here. The Minnesota Timberwolves lose last night at Madison 605 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: Square Garden one thirty seven to just one fourteen. The 606 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: good news is is you needed Aunt back on the 607 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: court and you got him. He played twenty nine minutes. 608 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: In terms of his impact on the game, fifteen points, 609 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: five to thirteen, didn't really get to the line very much, 610 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: and just kind of we want to see how that 611 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: hammy responds, and we did. Julius Randall continued his scoring. 612 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: Terry led the Howl with thirty two. But it was Kat, 613 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: it was og Nanobi. I mean, Jalen Brunson is terrific 614 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: right now. Twenty three, ten dimes and seven boards. He 615 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: was all over the place. And the team, as you 616 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: noted earlier, PA, they allowed eighty three points in the 617 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: second half to roll away victorious. The Wolves are four 618 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: and four, come back to comfy. I believe it's either 619 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: Friday or Saturday. I believe it's tomorrow night. 620 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: Jazz in town. 621 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: Jazz going to be without Walker Kessler, who is now 622 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: done for the season because I believe shoulder surgery. So 623 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: the Jazz should be a winnable game for the Howl. 624 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: Ant should look better in this next one than he 625 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: did last night as he finds his way back onto 626 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: the court. But four and four the Howl middling kind 627 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: of stinks. But we need the next one. Let's go 628 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: five and four against the Jazz. 629 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: The physical nature of the New York Knicks tilted this 630 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: contest last night. The Timberwolves giving up eighty three second 631 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: half points is obviously not preferred, but losing by nineteen 632 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: in the rebounds and Mitchell Robinson kind of a part 633 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: time befeeding veterans center. He had nine offensive rebounds that 634 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: tied the amount of leading rebounds for Rudy Gobert for 635 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves, he had nine total. So that right there 636 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: indicates that one team was more tenacious, boxed out better, 637 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: and wanted the basketball off missus more than the other. Team, 638 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: So your foreign form and you move on to take 639 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: on take on the Utah Jazz tomorrow night at Target Center. 640 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: Some sad news. 641 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 3: I'm going to play a highlight from Monday night's game 642 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: Dallas and the Cardinals, the defensive touchdowns. We're going to 643 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 3: take one play for the Cowboys to snap out of 644 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 3: this and get back in it. 645 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: Toun his block, it. 646 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 3: Is picked up in the fifth game and loosen the 647 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: end zone and my son Neeland, who will cover it 648 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: for a touchdown? 649 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: Well, you asked for one play. There was crazy news. 650 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: I saw pop on X. 651 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: That was Marshawn Neeland, defensive end for the Dallas Cowboys. 652 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: He scored that touchdown as part of Monday Nights, I 653 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: leave the loss for the Cowboys. If you are a 654 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 3: Cowboys fan, Marshawn Neeland has passed away. According to the team, 655 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: just twenty four years old. He was I think let 656 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 3: me see here. He was a second round pick Western 657 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: Michigan out of twenty twenty four, number fifty six overall, 658 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: played in eleven games his rookie season, had played in 659 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 3: seven and started three this year. Also had a sack, 660 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 3: but just kind of the real world implication of it 661 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 3: just twenty four years old and has passed away. I 662 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: don't have any information in terms of exactly what happened. 663 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 3: Let me find the team statement here. It's extreme sadness. 664 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys share that Marshaw Kneelan tragically passed away this morning. 665 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: Marshan was a beloved teammate and member of our organization. 666 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: Our thoughts and prayers regarding Marshawn or with his girlfriend 667 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 3: Catalina and his family. His agent has also made a 668 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 3: statement you can find on social. 669 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: Media as well. But this does not seem like it 670 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: was a known or that. 671 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 3: This sounds very sudden and sounds very tragic. So the 672 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: NFL multiple teams have come out and posted their statements 673 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: of prayer and support as well. But sad news in 674 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: the NFL. This twenty four year old kid, he's just 675 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 3: a kid, has passed away. 676 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: May God rest his soul. That indeed is very sad. 677 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: Also weird news. 678 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 3: Miami Heat coach Eric Spolstra his house was heavily damaged 679 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: Thursday morning by a massive fire. There were no immediate 680 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 3: reports of injuries. This courtesy of ESPN dot Com. Miami 681 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 3: Dade County fire officials said the blaze was called in 682 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: around four thirty six am. Spolster in the heat. They 683 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 3: played in Denver Wednesday night. Their charter flight did not 684 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: land until after five. I mean, going on a road 685 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: trip and coming home and your house burned down. Just 686 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: tough news there. So they more than twenty units had 687 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: to respond to the fire, fighting it both on the 688 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: ground and in the air. So the yeah, we got 689 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 3: sad tragic news of death. We got houses on fire. 690 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 3: We got the Minnesota Wild tonight, Pa, we got the 691 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: Minnesota Wild doing their thing in Carolina. Puck drop on 692 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 3: the East Coast is gonna be six pm Central time, 693 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: Minnesota Wild ending their home stand with a couple of victories, 694 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: hoping they can find two more points tonight at the. 695 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: Cane Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one tonight because 696 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: the after having coach John Hines on yesterday HEINZ nine 697 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: to noon. When right at the end when I asked 698 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: him about the differences between Bruno's Nashville bit compared to 699 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: the Canes, Yeah, I mean just hed. He talked for 700 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: like two minutes straight about their speed and just about 701 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: the way they do things that are different than the 702 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: way Nashville does them. Zukrello I believe is on this trip. 703 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: It's it's yesterday. I caught when that he was, didn't 704 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: check it today, but I think zu Corelo's on the trip, 705 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if he played in one 706 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: of these next two, specifically giving it a back to back, 707 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: and they may want to cut some minutes with some 708 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: of the forwards, some of the Wild Wingers when they 709 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: go to the island to play the New York Islanders tomorrow. 710 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 2: So Zuki on the horizon, that's nothing but good news. 711 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: But these Canes are good, man, These Canes are a 712 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: fun team to watch, very very good. 713 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: And that's news. 714 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: Denord brought to you by the casino, the very best casino. 715 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: It's Canterbury Park and it's down in Shockapee. We are 716 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 3: going to take you to charch around the corner. It's 717 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 3: the Fantasy Football Feast portion of the equation for nine 718 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: to noon on a Thursday. A longtime friend and devoted 719 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 3: fantasy mind, Paul Charchion joins next. After that the box 720 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: of all boxes ever the Box. Then we start previewing 721 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 3: the Feast of Buffalo wild Wings up river tomorrow. That's 722 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 3: the destination for the Friday Football feest, so hopefully we 723 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 3: see a lot of you there. You're listening to nine 724 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: to noon to FM one hundred point three kfa N