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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from WOR now the wr Saturday

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Speaker 1: Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Here's Larry Minty coming up this week on Saturday Morning.

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Speaker 2: NASA County executive Bruce Blakeman is running for governor. So

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Speaker 2: where's he been? We asked WOR host and former candidate

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Speaker 2: for governor, Rob Astorno. Space Force, a vital branch of

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Speaker 2: the military, has gotten a bad rap. Futurist Kevin Siilli

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Speaker 2: says they may be the most important branch in the

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Speaker 2: very near future. Sixteen thousand nurses are on strike in

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Speaker 2: New York. But is that ethical for a nurse to

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Speaker 2: go on strike. We'll ask bioethicist doctor Arthur Kaplan about that,

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Speaker 2: and are you thinking of retiring? Career advice expert Greg

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Speaker 2: g and Grande has some tips for you on how

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Speaker 2: to tell your boss. But let's start with WOR and

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Speaker 2: Newsmax's host Rob Astorno. So, Rob, this relation between Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump and Zoran mom Donnie. At first, I thought Zoran

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Speaker 2: mom Donnie was just being a nuisance and using a

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Speaker 2: phone number he was given. Now it seems like they're

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Speaker 2: texting back and forth to each other and calling each

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Speaker 2: other and talking to each other on the phone. Is

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Speaker 2: this a budding odd couple. Is this some kind of

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Speaker 2: weird bromance.

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Speaker 3: I want to make New York amfortable for everyone. Oh

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Speaker 3: wait wait, I was asked a different question. That's all

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Speaker 3: he says. That's all he says, but he actually answered

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Speaker 3: a different question. He says, yeah, we text a handful

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Speaker 3: of times. Next question, he it's it's really strange, but

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Speaker 3: this is Donald Trump. Honestly, anyone who knows Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Knows that he will basically take a call from anyone

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Speaker 4: and will will give people time that that sometimes don't

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Speaker 3: He's just he is opening. He opens the doors to

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Speaker 3: listen to all different points of view, which is what

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Speaker 3: people don't realize about him.

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Speaker 4: And he sometimes will make a decision that, you know,

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Speaker 4: kind of surprises people because he talked to different people.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, it's not surprising to me that they

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Speaker 3: have some sort of casual relationship.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, whether you like it or not, Ma'm

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Speaker 4: Dommi is the mayor of New York City. Obviously, Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump has a very big soft spot for New York City.

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Speaker 4: This is where he grew up, this is where he

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Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how far it's going to get, Mam Domi,

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Speaker 4: because you know they're going to be at odds, and

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Speaker 4: they already are on some very major issues, including what's

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Speaker 4: going on right now with Ice and you know, ma'm

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Speaker 4: Dommi's ridiculous response, just like the mayor of Minneapolis to

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Speaker 4: what's going on over there and ICE's roll.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It really is interesting because the last time they

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Speaker 2: got off the phone together, apparently Donald Trump then cut

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Speaker 2: off funding to New York City and New York State

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Speaker 2: threatened you for February first. So I'm not sure the

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Speaker 2: phone calls are doing doing any good whatsoever. Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: he just seems to like talking to people. I think

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Speaker 4: So there have been there have been times, like in

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Speaker 4: the passage first term, where I've left the message for him,

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Speaker 4: and I would the phone would ring at like twelve

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, it's the president.

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Speaker 4: It's like any time of day, believe me, any time

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Speaker 4: it's the strangest thing. It's the most surreal thing when

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Speaker 4: calling him to say, hey, I disagree with you on

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Speaker 3: You know, pull back your goons in Minneapolis. I mean

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Speaker 3: it's so stupid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of shows you that he's a rookie. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I have my contacts out. Why don't you give me

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Speaker 2: because you've been through this before, so you will have

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Speaker 2: a first hand account of what's going on. Bruce Blakeman

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Speaker 2: It's it's kind of officially started, right and they both announced

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Speaker 2: What is happening? Do they are they just out building support.

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Speaker 3: So all the above is true.

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Speaker 4: Wednesday night, we had an event in White Plains that

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Speaker 4: Had a full crowd, and people are curious because they

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Speaker 5: So he's doing that and he's.

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Speaker 4: Building the building blocks. It's early, it's still very early.

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Speaker 4: This is when you do all those things.

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Speaker 3: The media.

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Speaker 4: The media starts coming into play later on. I mean

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Speaker 4: they're disinterested generally, especially down here. The New York City

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Speaker 4: media is the worst. Okay, they're just they're just really bad.

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Speaker 4: And upstate you can get media coverage if he goes

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Speaker 3: He goes up there, they're gonna they're gonna cover it,

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Speaker 4: But he hadn't a vent in Brooklyn the other day.

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Speaker 4: Did the media really pick up fun it? Probably not right,

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Speaker 4: but he was doing a big education thing. So this

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Speaker 4: is the building block stage, the fundraising stage, and basically

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Speaker 2: I agree with you about the media in New York,

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Speaker 2: and I'm so disappointed. I remember I used to work

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Speaker 2: They don't ask follow up questions. Rob, I don't understand

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Speaker 3: I would have loved for them to ask the wrong question.

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Speaker 3: They never asked any questions. Good it never showed up.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you're talking about Blakeman. I mean, on a

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Speaker 2: So it is amazing that there's no follow ups. It's

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Speaker 2: amazing that they didn't hold mom Downy's feet to the fire.

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Speaker 2: He got to talk in circles and they let him.

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Speaker 4: You played that cut before of Caroline Levitt, which was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: She ripped that guy's face off in the White House

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Speaker 4: think about the ice situation in Minneapolis? And he said,

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Speaker 4: you're asking me my opinion? And she said, yeah, what

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Speaker 2: Called he called the officer reckless. Yes, he was reckless.

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Speaker 2: This is the word he used. Yeah, no, I agree

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Speaker 2: I will. Thanks for that note. Rob rob Astorino, former

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Speaker 2: on WOR Saturday's four to five pm and host of

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Speaker 2: Saturday Agenda on Newsmax from one to three pm. A

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Speaker 2: doctor testing before Congress for transgender rights when viral for

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Speaker 1: Larry Minti, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Nurses have been on strike at five New York City

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Speaker 2: hospitals for almost a week. Is it ethical for nurses

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Speaker 2: ask that very question. Doctor Arthur Kaplan is a professor

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Speaker 2: of bioethics at NYU's land Gone Medical Center. Doctor, I

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Speaker 2: think you know what I'm gonna ask. You can men

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Speaker 6: Well, there are many biological No.

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Speaker 2: I really thought that was about to happen. You had

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Speaker 6: I mean, there are certainly people who you know, undergo

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Speaker 6: guess in different appearances or something. But no, men cannot

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Speaker 2: It must we do. I would think as a medical

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Speaker 2: involved in medicine these days, in both sides political political

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Speaker 2: influence has been involved in medical treatments, it's been involved

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Speaker 6: Well, I agree with that. You know, I'll give you

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 6: Now we know that isn't true, hoop, because there are

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Speaker 6: that's had a hard time with it is the Olympics. Right,

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Speaker 6: They're constantly trying to put some people into the male

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Speaker 6: just how it is. So you know, whether you want

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Speaker 6: everybody clearly is one or the other. There were all

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Speaker 6: That's just the way it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking about the last Olympics. Remember there was

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Speaker 2: so that's exactly what.

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Speaker 6: You're talking about. Know, that's that's exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: And you can decide let her in, don't let her in,

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Speaker 6: or it's unfair or she's too big or whatever. But

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Speaker 2: oh five. Thanks a lot, doctor, good talking to you.

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Speaker 6: It's going great. You know, we just had this month.

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Speaker 2: Greg is up next.

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Speaker 1: Here again is Larry Menty with the WOOR Saturday Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Thinking about retiring, trying to figure out what you should

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Speaker 2: tell your boss and when is the right time. Career

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Speaker 2: advice expert Greg gm Grande has the answers. Greg, a

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Speaker 2: couple interesting emails in your email box. I'm planning to

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Speaker 2: retire soon and I don't know when or how to

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Speaker 2: tell my boss. How much notice is enough? And should

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Speaker 2: I do it in person or buy email? I want

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Speaker 2: to keep things smooth and professional.

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Speaker 7: Well, the first rule of thumb if you want.

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Speaker 5: To keep things smooth and professional is to never deliver

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Speaker 5: news like this via email. It out of respect. It

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Speaker 5: should be in person. But before you deliver news of

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Speaker 5: your intent to retire. And this is the time of

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Speaker 5: year where you know, lots of people evaluate different things

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Speaker 5: in their lives, including their career. Retirement obviously is a

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Speaker 5: huge decision. Some people don't really think it through and

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Speaker 5: don't and aren't sure that they really lined up everything

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Speaker 5: that they would do after and and they're not sure

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Speaker 5: that they've got their plan set up, and sometimes it's

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Speaker 5: done emotionally. So before you make this big decision, before

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Speaker 5: you know, defy anyone. I've seen many many people regret afterwards.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what I was thinking, I don't know

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Speaker 5: what to do with myself, and they want to come back.

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Speaker 5: So first make sure it's what you really want to do,

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Speaker 5: and then before you let your employer know, evaluate the situation.

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Speaker 5: Because lots of companies are going through layoffs right now.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes they're offering voluntary exit packages. So instead of you

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Speaker 5: just leaving with some notice, you might be able to

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Speaker 5: walk away with some severance. Because it can be tricky

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Speaker 5: for companies to lay off people who are of retirement age.

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Speaker 5: It's done all the time, but it's trickier. So if

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Speaker 5: your company is going through something like that, it's worth

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Speaker 5: talking to your boss and say, hey, listen, I know

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Speaker 5: we're laying people off, or you're offering packages. You know

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Speaker 5: I might be open to something like that. Is that

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Speaker 5: something the company is willing to consider for me?

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Speaker 7: You might be able to get yourself a little something on.

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Speaker 5: The way out rather than just saying you're you're retiring.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's great advice. As always, I just talked somebody

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Speaker 2: out of retiring just recently because they were gonna do

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Speaker 2: it for the wrong reasons. They were gonna do it

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Speaker 2: because they didn't like the boss and they didn't like

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Speaker 2: their situation. And I said to them at that point,

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Speaker 2: then what what are you gonna do? What's gonna be

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Speaker 2: the next thing? And they really had no plan. They

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Speaker 2: were just mad. They were gonna do it on emotion,

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Speaker 2: which is probably, I think you would agree, Greg, the

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Speaker 2: worst reason to retire.

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Speaker 5: You never make any major decision during an emotional moment.

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Speaker 5: You really have to step back and talk to people

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Speaker 5: and calm down. These are two important decisions. But if

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Speaker 5: you've done all that and you still want to retire

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Speaker 5: and your company isn't offering any packages, then give yourself

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Speaker 5: plenty of notice, like I wouldn't. I wouldn't if you're

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Speaker 5: planning on retiring at the end of January, I would

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Speaker 5: have had that discussion a few months before. There's no

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Speaker 5: harm in working out a longer transition period. Your employer

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Speaker 5: will respect it because you're not saying I'm retiring in December.

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Speaker 5: What you're going to say is I'm thinking of retiring

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Speaker 5: in December, when would be a good time for us

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Speaker 5: to sit down and talk about what that might look

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Speaker 5: like and when we would start a transition period. That

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Speaker 5: would be the professional way to do it, to give

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Speaker 5: yourself as much transition time as possible and give the

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Speaker 5: employer that time too.

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Speaker 2: And when they say, oh good, that's not a good sign.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're talking about transition time, Sam, like you know,

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Speaker 4: I want to retire in three.

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Speaker 2: Months, Like that's my plan.

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Speaker 6: And you go to your boss and.

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Speaker 1: You say, yeah, you know in June, I want to

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Speaker 1: thinking about calling it quits.

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Speaker 2: Bah bah bah bah. And they say, well, you know what,

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Speaker 2: we could do it sooner. I mean that's their call,

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Speaker 2: not yours.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, that's why you're not saying I am forget

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Speaker 5: about retirement. Let's just call it a resignation, right, Yes,

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Speaker 5: your employer. Your employer doesn't have to honor your resignation date.

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Speaker 5: If you walk in and say I'm resigning, retiring, whatever,

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Speaker 5: and I'm leaving in three months, your employer can say

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Speaker 5: thank you for the notice. I don't need three months.

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Speaker 5: How about three days and let's make Wednesday your last day.

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Speaker 5: That is true, Natalie, They can do that, which is

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Speaker 5: why you're going to say I am thinking of retiring,

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Speaker 5: and if I were to retire, it would be around

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Speaker 5: this timeframe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but by the way, I am not retiring.

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Speaker 2: We didn't think so. Believe me, I thought that was

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Speaker 2: going to happen. Let me go to the other end

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Speaker 2: of the spectrum on this, because the hip thing for

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Speaker 2: the cool kids to do is to just leave their

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Speaker 2: job without notifying anybody, just not showing up. It's a

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Speaker 2: big thing on social media right now. They brag about it.

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Speaker 2: They hated their jobs, so they just left, and everybody

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Speaker 2: salutes them for it. Does that going to hurt you

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Speaker 2: later on?

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Speaker 7: Yes, it is really.

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Speaker 5: I mean, unless you were like there's no record of

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Speaker 5: where you worked and there's no way to find out.

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Speaker 5: But today it is so easy, and most employers do

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Speaker 5: thorough background.

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Speaker 7: Checks and check your social media.

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Speaker 5: So if you are bragging I'm social about how you've

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Speaker 5: ghosted your employer, I might think twice, Larry, call me crazy.

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Speaker 5: I might think twice about extending a job offered to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. Just check social media. It's

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Speaker 2: all over the place people just leaving their jobs. And

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Speaker 2: when it becomes a trend, then everybody follows course and

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Speaker 2: you're right. I look at it and I think to myself,

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Speaker 2: I feel so bamed for these people. They have no

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Speaker 2: idea what they're doing. They're just, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to call them young and dumb, but they're young

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Speaker 2: and dumb.

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Speaker 5: They are documenting series of career limiting moves that hopefully

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Speaker 5: at some point they will wake up and get some

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Speaker 5: maturity and stop doing that. But yes, it will hurt them.

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Speaker 2: Greg gim Grande, career advice expert. Check them out on

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Speaker 2: go too Greg dot com. That wraps up Saturday Morning

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Speaker 2: for this week. Thanks for listening, and thanks to Natalie

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Speaker 2: Vodka and Peter Arelano for putting the show together every week.

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Speaker 2: Have a great rest of your weekend.

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