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Speaker 1: Right now, we're heading out to the KWA Commaspurate Health

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Speaker 1: Hotline and bringing on Shelby Harris, fresh off of a

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Speaker 1: bye week.

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Speaker 2: Shelby, my fan, My man, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great? Now you doing?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead? Your voice is back. That's good news.

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Speaker 3: Yes we're back. Maybe we're back back to cars, having.

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Speaker 2: Back to cause havoc.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we had Garrett on earlier in today's

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Speaker 1: NFL trade deadline day, and I'd love to get your

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Speaker 1: We we covered as media and fans and we're hoping

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Speaker 2: But of course you're you're trading away.

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Speaker 1: That means, you know, usually things didn't go so well,

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Speaker 2: But what do players go through on day like this.

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Speaker 3: You know, on a daylight today, you know, it could

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Speaker 3: be a whole bunch of emotions. Like I've seen players

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Speaker 3: Like when I was in Cleveland last year with Zadarius Smith,

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Speaker 3: You know if a lot of guys obviously have today

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Speaker 3: But it's just a lot because you gotta then you

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Speaker 3: that has nothing to do with football, that it takes

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Speaker 3: you know. It's just a whole mentor gymnasis thing that

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Speaker 1: No, And I'm glad you talked about it from the

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Speaker 1: Say that there's this there's a certain amount of you

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Speaker 3: But now if you're you know, if you seem like

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Speaker 2: Texas coming in.

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Speaker 1: By the way, says miss you and Denver Shell be

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Speaker 3: So for me, I always feel like a team that

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Speaker 1: You got and that's kind of where we've come down

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Speaker 1: Have I completely agree chatting with Shelby Harris here. You

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Speaker 3: There's gonnake some fresh juice out there. You're going to

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Speaker 3: It's pretty much like going into It's like it's almost

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Speaker 3: Like we've played the package the first year about Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 3: You know, it's that kind of feeling behind them. But

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Speaker 3: so that that would be a very interesting thing to see.

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Speaker 3: But it might just give him some juice. It might

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Speaker 3: it might just make them a team of being like,

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Speaker 3: change the culture. Now, I'm not saying that these guys

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Speaker 3: that's what the Jets did.

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Speaker 1: Good, good perspective on that last one, last couple here

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: Always appreciate it, my friends.

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Speaker 1: So the Broncos, obviously I'm not going to get into

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Speaker 2: What's your takeaway on that?

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Speaker 3: I think that the biggest thing that matters when it

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Speaker 3: there before you. I'm not I'm not gonna say this

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Speaker 3: We always a part times like, oh they can't they

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Speaker 3: That's what you're saying without the Denver MeTL team right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent with you, and I understand it's

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Speaker 1: you're stacking wins while you can continue to work on

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Speaker 1: these things, which is something I've tried to harp on.

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Speaker 1: They know that there's more, that there's more needs to

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's easier to fix things when you're seven to

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Speaker 3: I know from personal serence.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Shelby, you're the absolute best man. I'm glad your

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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy that?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I came back to Denver and you didn't get

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Speaker 3: any better than that. I'm telling you that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, Well, we missed you and I look forward to

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Speaker 2: seeing you again here very soon. My friend, I am.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you man. Good talking to you.

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Speaker 2: As always, We'll check in with you next week. Shelby

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