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Speaker 2: I found a survey result something well pool that's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: We're going to spend a few minutes here before I

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Speaker 2: actually opened the show and roll into everything else. But

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good introduction to the program. I

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Speaker 2: found the story on Foxnews dot com and it's based

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Speaker 2: on a survey that was done of It's described as

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Speaker 2: young women, but that's not probably the right term because

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Speaker 2: it's a broadcross section of females fifteen to four, so

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Speaker 2: some of them are girls. And obviously would you say

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Speaker 2: a woman who's forty three as a young woman. I mean,

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Speaker 2: from the perspective of me, if they want to start

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Speaker 2: moving all all of that that stuff back up, that's

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Speaker 2: fine nonetheless as saying young women, but it's actually fifteen

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Speaker 2: to forty four. Now, part of this I don't have

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Speaker 2: how they worded the question, because the way you word

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Speaker 2: a question can influence the result. But they've been asking

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Speaker 2: the same question over a lengthy period of time, so

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Speaker 2: they can track the results, so it's an apples to

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Speaker 2: apples comparison. The poll was conducted by Gallup. Forty percent

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Speaker 2: of women in this age group say they would like

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Speaker 2: to leave the United States. Forty Let me start with

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Speaker 2: before we dive into who any of them are. My

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Speaker 2: guess is the overwhelming majority of the forty percent of

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Speaker 2: women who say they would like to leave the United

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Speaker 2: States vote for Democrats. So we should all do everything

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Speaker 2: we can to empower them to go ahead and do it.

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Speaker 2: But see, that's the point. What do you mean you

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Speaker 2: want to leave the United States? The caveat of the

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Speaker 2: pole said, if given the opportunity, what opportunity? It's not

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Speaker 2: that hard. See, I think it's an insincere response. If

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Speaker 2: you wanted to leave the United States, you would leave

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Speaker 2: the United States. It's not that hard to do. The

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Speaker 2: question didn't even say leave the United States to go

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Speaker 2: to Canada or Britain or it just leave the United States.

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Speaker 2: Some countries are hard to get to others it's really easy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, zillions of senior citizens have retired to Costa Rica.

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Speaker 2: That's become one of those countries that's sort of become

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Speaker 2: it to Costa Rica. But if a bunch of old

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Speaker 2: farts can move to Costa Rica, some of these young

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Speaker 2: women can why I don't want to go there. Ooh.

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Speaker 2: So maybe they'd like to leave the United States. But

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Speaker 2: when asked where would you like to leave? To who?

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Speaker 2: They can't come up with anything else. But they're saying

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Speaker 2: they would like to leave. Now, let's unpack this a

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Speaker 2: little bit. First of all, they're saying they would like

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Speaker 2: to leave. The United States have given the opportunity, but

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Speaker 2: they haven't left. Isn't this an indictment of their own helplessness.

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Speaker 2: I mean, unless it's something you can't afford, if you

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Speaker 2: want to do something, you do it. And I have

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Speaker 2: a guess in terms of leaving the United States, there

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Speaker 2: are all sorts of places in which the cost of

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be that much of an issue. I know personally

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Speaker 2: people who moved back and forth between Canada. There's rigamarole

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Speaker 2: with the Canadians and doing it, but people have done it.

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Speaker 2: So what they're really saying is I'd like to leave

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Speaker 2: to figure out how to do it, or maybe they're thinking, man, Okay,

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Speaker 2: i've got kids, I can't leave for that reason, but

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Speaker 2: I'd like to do what i'd like to do what

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Speaker 2: I'd like to do it. Nonetheless, forty percent. That means

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Speaker 2: I say, I just think it's intuitive that the overwhelming

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Speaker 2: majority of those people would be leftists. They've been tracking

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Speaker 2: this number over a number of years. When they conducted

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Speaker 2: the survey in twenty fourteen, it was twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the numbers for young women way higher

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Speaker 2: than for young men. Now, I think that I know

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Speaker 2: where all of this comes from. I think you have

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Speaker 2: take on a victim mentality. They're steered away from God

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Speaker 2: this just overwhelming malaise in their lives in which everything's

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Speaker 2: do something about it. It's like, what can I do

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Speaker 2: any of that. They think that it is the responsibility

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Speaker 2: of everyone else to make them happy. This is why

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Speaker 2: so many of them are voting for people like Mom Donnie.

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Speaker 2: I wish things didn't cost as much. I wish I

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Speaker 2: could do this, I wish I could do that. And

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Speaker 2: this socialist says that we'll be able to get all

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Speaker 2: of these things for free. So this mentality, I think

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Speaker 2: comes from an overall sense of coddling. The opposite of

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Speaker 2: coddling would be to culturalize people at a young age,

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Speaker 2: to tell them charge of your destiny. If you want

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Speaker 2: do the other thing. Generally speaking, the harder you work,

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Speaker 2: the more your chances are of succeeding. But that's not

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Speaker 2: the message that they're given. They're given every other possible

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Speaker 2: type of message, and they end up, particularly I think

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Speaker 2: younger people and particularly younger women, very very unhappy. So

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Speaker 2: they say they want to leave, but then they haven't

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Speaker 2: left again because just like everything else, they refuse to

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Speaker 2: take charge of their own lives and do it. Now,

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Speaker 2: my guess is those that could do it haven't done it,

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Speaker 2: meaning they're just lying. So they're forty percent. Thing is

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Speaker 2: just one more way of bitching about this, because all

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Speaker 2: they do is bitch and complain about everything. It's like

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Speaker 2: their own personal version of you know, there's all these

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Speaker 2: diseases that people have that they can't you know, they

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Speaker 2: do medical tests on them and they can't find any symptoms,

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Speaker 2: so they call it a syndrome and something, and they

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Speaker 2: may exist, they may not, I don't know, like epstein,

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Speaker 2: barr and chronic fatigue send them. Those things might all

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Speaker 2: be real or maybe they're not. I honestly don't know,

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Speaker 2: but I do know that the people who tend to

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Speaker 2: people who have actually have these conditions. I'm just talking

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Speaker 2: they therefore blame it all in the United States and

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Speaker 2: say I wish I could leave. I guarantee you this.

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Speaker 2: Let's imagine all of them left. This forty percent they

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Speaker 2: all left, and by the way, what a great thing.

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Speaker 2: There's just zero reason to oppose this. We should empower them. Leave.

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Speaker 2: Renounce your citizenship too. Don't go off and leave and

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Speaker 2: then try to send for a ballot to still vote

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Speaker 2: in our election. No, no, no, you hate it here, get

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Speaker 2: the hell out and become a citizen of something else.

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Speaker 2: Let's imagine they all did it, I guarantee you. In

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Speaker 2: They would all say they want to move from that

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Speaker 2: even more miserable than they are here. There are some

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Speaker 2: people who are predisposed to whining, and it is about

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Speaker 2: this babying and pampering and coddling that we have done

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Speaker 2: And that number is just going to keep going up.

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Speaker 2: All these people that were convincing all these girls were

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Speaker 2: They're gonna blame it on the United States. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: coming from people who themselves are miserably unhappy. I believe

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Speaker 2: It's either four or six months. I believe four months,

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Speaker 2: But you're laying out most of your case in the filing,

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Speaker 2: and then the defense attorney puts out their response. The

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Speaker 2: jury still has to hear the evidence if it does

429
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Speaker 2: go to jury trial, but both sides lay out their

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Speaker 2: cases in these filings. Hanna Dugan's defense team, which is

431
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Speaker 2: about nineteen lawyers, all being paid by somebody other than

432
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Speaker 2: Hannah Dugan, have filed their response and it is quite interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know.

434
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Speaker 2: The response is handed didn't do anything wrong. Here's why

435
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Speaker 2: they are laying this on the chief judge in Milwaukee County,

436
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Speaker 2: Carl Ashley. A moment for explanation. This happens a lot.

437
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: There's two Milwaukee Judge Ashley's. They're related, kyl Ashley's the

438
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: chief judge. Corey Ashley is a terribly lenient judge. She's

439
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Speaker 2: as bad as they get. This is not her, This

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Speaker 2: is Carl. Carl's the chief judge. Let me quote from

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Speaker 2: the JS online story here and see whether or not

442
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Speaker 2: the defense here has a credible case that Hannah didn't

443
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Speaker 2: do anything wrong but was simply doing what she was

444
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Speaker 2: supposed to do. This is again I'm quoting from the

445
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Speaker 2: JS online report, which has numerous bylines out it. Everybody's

446
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: byline on this has been with that paper for like

447
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: decades combined. It's like, that's amazing, because there's like nobody

448
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: who survived at the Drinal all the old fires. The

449
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: only three that have been there for a long time.

450
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: Thinkins's name is not on the other three. Dan Biss,

451
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,239
Speaker 2: Mary Spacuza, and John Didrich the only ones who have

452
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: not been laid off or taken the buyouts or whatever

453
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Speaker 2: on this. In a court filing on November fourteenth, Dugan's

454
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Speaker 2: attorneys argued that she was not trying to obstruct immigration.

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Speaker 2: Dy I love this. She wasn't trying to She sent

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Speaker 2: them in the coast, hit him and said go to

457
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Speaker 2: the Chief judges office. She wasn't trying to obstruct. Now

458
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: here's the key on this. They're now claiming she wasn't

459
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Speaker 2: really trying to obstruct. They're no longer in a position

460
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Speaker 2: of trying to claim that this isn't criminal activity to

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Speaker 2: obstruct the Nce Wood. She's not saying she wasn't trying

462
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Speaker 2: to do it. You know, and not trying to do

463
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: it is a key component of the law. It's a

464
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: different crime. If you shoot somebody by accident, you're messing

465
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Speaker 2: a room with a gun, as opposed to you intended

466
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: to kill someone because you hate them. They're different things.

467
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Speaker 2: He was not trying to obstruct immigration agents from arresting

468
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: Eduardo Flores Mare's outside her courtroom, but instead abiding by

469
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Speaker 2: a draft policy provided prepared by Milwaukee County Chief Judge

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Speaker 2: Carl Ashley. See what there's saying is the chief judge

471
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Speaker 2: came up with a policy. What do you do if

472
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Speaker 2: ice shows up? And all she was doing was following it.

473
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Speaker 2: But the key hero is draft. That means it wasn't

474
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: a policy yet, continued Ashley is likely to become a

475
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Speaker 2: central witness in the high profile case set to go

476
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Speaker 2: to trial December fifteenth. So Carl Ashley, the Chief Judge,

477
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Speaker 2: he's gonna be called, probably by the defense. In an

478
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Speaker 2: attempt by the defense to make the case that Henna

479
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: Dugan wasn't doing anything wrong other than following what the

480
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Speaker 2: Chief Judge, Karl Ashley told her to do. The indictment

481
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: alleges Judge Dugan obstructed a proceeding by telling ice agents

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Speaker 2: to go to the Chief Judge's office. The defense attorneys wrote,

483
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Speaker 2: even though that's what Chief Judge Ashley's policies required, she

484
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: asked for guidance, received it, and followed it. Now, I

485
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: will add nothing of the policy said go hide the

486
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Speaker 2: guy in another office while you're sending them on this

487
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Speaker 2: wild goufchase out of the Chief Judge's office. But they're saying, look,

488
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Speaker 2: she sent him that way. The defense are saying, you

489
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: were trying to you know, misdirection, sent him the wrong

490
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: place while she she allowed him to get away. She's saying,

491
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Speaker 2: the policy said you're supposed to go to the Chief

492
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Speaker 2: judge off continuing. The defense arguments come in response to

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Speaker 2: the prosecutions filing on November seventh, laying out their most

494
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Speaker 2: detailed description of to date of how they allege Dugan

495
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: tried to help Floresa Reese avoid arrest. Flores Mares pleaded

496
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Speaker 2: guilty to illegally re entering the United States and was

497
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Speaker 2: being deported, his attorney said November fifth, Defense attorneys rely

498
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Speaker 2: on emails on a draft policy from Ashley. The policy

499
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: was meant to guide Milwaukee Quartos personnel on how they

500
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Speaker 2: should respond by US Immigration and Customs enforcement agents at

501
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: size to arrest undocumented immigrants, part of President Donald Trump's

502
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: cracked down an illegal immigration. Ashley has not yet released

503
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Speaker 2: the formal policy and immigration arrest of the quartos. So

504
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: remember she said this is this draft she said she

505
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: was going, but Ashley doesn't have a policy yet. I

506
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: would suggest to Ashley if he wants to put up

507
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Speaker 2: a polo, see if a law enforcement agent comes in

508
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: with a warrant, cooperate with them in the same way

509
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: that you would any other agent. All this stuff has

510
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: been treated differently at immigration. There's not been a policy

511
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: in place. If the FBI here is that somebody is

512
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: a child abuser and he's running around in the courthouse

513
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: for a child support case, they don't say you don't

514
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Speaker 2: let them arrest them. This all has been changed because

515
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: of a desire on people on the left to simply

516
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: violate immigration laws. Back to the story. In one April

517
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: sixth the email the judges, Ashley warned that ice arrests

518
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Speaker 2: at the courthouse we're having a chilling effect, and that

519
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: courts must remain safe havens. The filing says, I've never

520
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: heard of anybody refer to a court as a safe

521
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: haven before. Why is the court supposed to be a

522
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: safe haven? That just the opposite. It's where people that

523
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Speaker 2: need to have justice brought upon them go. I mean,

524
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Speaker 2: it's all It is a safe haven for victims. And

525
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: you know you're filing a lawsuit. It's the one anyway.

526
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Speaker 2: And continuing tuesdays later, the filing says, Dugan sent an

527
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Speaker 2: email requesting that protocols being acted for handling such situations code.

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Speaker 2: I have seen in my court more people not showing

529
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: up for court dates. I have had two immigration attorneys

530
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: asking me just today about what protocols are in place.

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Speaker 2: Obviously this is me no interjecting. The Feds have been

532
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: on this thing in which they realize one of the

533
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: easiest ways to catch it illegal is to find out

534
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: when the illegal is doing court for something else, because

535
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: a lot of the illegals are breaking other laws. So

536
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: instead of ice running around trying to find this illegal,

537
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Speaker 2: if they see that the illegal is doing court on

538
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: a traffic thing or a gun charge or something, they

539
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: just go there. So now the Dugan is saying, well,

540
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Speaker 2: people aren't showing up. On the morning of April eighteenth,

541
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: six agents appeared outside Dugan's sixth floor court room. When

542
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: she was alerted, Dugan questioned the agents and directed them

543
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: to go to Ashley's office, which is nearby. Ashley was

544
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: out of the office away on business. Now, let me

545
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: interject that harms Dugan's case. Did Dugan know that Ashley

546
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: was not there, because if she knew that he was

547
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: not there, never mind any kind of protocol, You're sending

548
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Speaker 2: him to an office in which you know that the

549
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: chief judge isn't there. Now, again, I don't know if

550
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: they have evidence that she knew that or not. Continuing,

551
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: Dugan's lawyers wrote that during federal agent's call with Ashley,

552
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: they asked what they had permission to make an arrest,

553
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: whether they had permission to make an arrest in a

554
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: public hallway or a courtroom. A chief Judge Ashley declined

555
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: to give them permission because he wanted to work out

556
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: an agreement with Ice. The defense argues that is why

557
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: the agents followed floraes Ariz down the hallway and into

558
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: an elevator before arresting him outside the Milwaukee County quodos.

559
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: The indictment alleges that the ICE agents planned to arrest

560
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: floras Ariz in the public hallway, the defense team wrote,

561
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: but again, that plan seems to have shifted. Instead, the

562
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: agent followed flora'z Ouiz down the elevator and out of

563
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: the courthouse to arrest him outside the street. Dugan's attorneys

564
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: also repeatedly cited Ashley's draft policy, which instructed people to

565
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: promptly refer agents to their managers. Quote. Court personnel may

566
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: not authorize the enfrey of Immigration agency personnel into the

567
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: non public areas of any court facility, and must refer

568
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: Immigration agent personnel to their immediate supervisor manager the filing rates.

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Speaker 2: Quoting the draft policy. I'll interject, but the manager here

570
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: would be the judge. This isn't a court reporter, this

571
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: was the judge. Dugan. I suppose you could argue that

572
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: a chief judge would be her supervisor, but each judge

573
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: is duly elected and they don't really have to listen

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00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: to the chief judge on anything. It adds if an

575
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: immigration agency officer insists on access to a non public area,

576
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: the employee should not resist, but should say I do

577
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: not consent, but because I have no other choice at

578
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: this time, I will not interfere with your order and

579
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: immediately contact their supervisor about the officer's order, pair a

580
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: written statement about the encounter and submitted to their supervisor.

581
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: In their November fourteenth filing, prosecutors argued that defense attorneys

582
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: are trying to reprise their argument that Dugan was immune

583
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: from prosecution for her actions on April eighteenth. Dugan's lawyers

584
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: say she is being prosecuted for five specific actions she

585
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: took while she was a judge, and that all of

586
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: them are protected by judicial imminity. No two things. The

587
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: case is in front of federal Judge Len Adelman. He

588
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: has rejected arguments to dismiss the charge, which surprised me.

589
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: On the other hand, he also gets to make all

590
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: the procedural rulings, and I would think that they're all

591
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: going to go in the favor of the defense, but

592
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: maybe little surprise me. Then there's the whole problem of

593
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: a jury. Now, this case is I mentioned this earlier

594
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: Eastern District of Wisconsin, so it's not a Milwaukee County

595
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: jury exclusively. It would be from the entire southern half

596
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: of the Eastern District. There's a courthouse in Green Bay

597
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: and a courthouse in Milwaukee, the Milwaukee hord of those cases,

598
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: the potential jury would come from this entire region. You know,

599
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: Sheboygan fond of Laca, Washington, Milwaukee. It was like the

600
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: whole corner of the State's big corner of the state.

601
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: So you wouldn't necessarily get only Milwaukee jurors. Obviously, the

602
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: defense is going to try hard to get lefties on

603
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: the jury, and I'm guessing the prosecutors it's going to

604
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: try hard not to get lefties on the jury. Second

605
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: point I want to make it does appear as though

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00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: defense the defense is changing its strategy. They were initially

607
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: she's immune because she's a judge. I think perhaps they

608
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: now have decided that that isn't going to work, and

609
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: instead they're going to say she was only doing what

610
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: Kyle Ashley told her to do. I'm certainly thinking and

611
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 2: by the way, we're going through the United States Attorney's Office,

612
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: the interim United States Attorney Brad Schimmel, I mean, he

613
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: now is on the eat. Don't know if he showed

614
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: up today, but he's it's imminent, it's going to be

615
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: this week. Richard Frohling has been the acting US Attorney

616
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: and he was prosecuting the case, and he certainly did

617
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: not show any signs of not moving forward with this

618
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: because it came from the Justice Department. So there may

619
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: be shots called in this from above at the local

620
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: level or not. But Pam BONDI had made it clear

621
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: that people that you know it's Trump, has made it

622
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: clear anybody that Trump obstructs ICE agents anywhere, they're going

623
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: to be criminally prosecuted. And this just seems to me

624
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: to be a black and white case of obstruction. I

625
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: have suggested, and I don't think it's going to happen.

626
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: I think Dugan's going to roll the dice and hope

627
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: she can win a jury, and if she doesn't, hope

628
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: to get it overturned on appeal. I would suggest that

629
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: there'll be a plea bargain here. I don't know that

630
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: Hanna Dugan has to go to prison, but I think

631
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: that a proper plea bargain would beat here for her

632
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: to acknowledge that she did obstruct this resign as a judge,

633
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: and there wouldn't be an agreement that she wouldn't be

634
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: incarcerated as a result. But there needs to be a consequence,

635
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: a conviction and a designation as a judge for people

636
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: to do this, and it would send a message all

637
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: over the country that you can't have individual judges and

638
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: cops obstructing federal agents who have jurisdiction everywhere in the

639
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: United States of America with regard to federal laws. All right,

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Speaker 2: I need to update you on another story. This is

641
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Speaker 2: one of those stories that while I didn't spend a

642
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Speaker 2: lot of time on it at the time, I'm glad

643
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: I spent some time on it because I am being

644
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: in I'm in the process of being proven correct. There's

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00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: this company from Madison. You may me making fun of

646
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 2: them at the time. They came up with this idea

647
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: to build three to four different massive developments in downtown Milwaukee,

648
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: all near the Water Street era area. The company's name

649
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: is Neutral. The first project was a big high rise

650
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Speaker 2: on the property of the old parking garage at the

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Speaker 2: Marcut Center for the Performing Arts. Most people felt that

652
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Speaker 2: that first proposal was the only one that seemed plausible.

653
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Speaker 2: And I said at the time that the city of

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee biting onto this thing, which they're going to put up,

655
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: you know, thousands of apartment units and so one, that

656
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: it was insanity. I never named the person, but I

657
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: said I had spoken to a prominent local developer, and

658
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 2: that local developer told me that this idea seems doable

659
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Speaker 2: in Dubai, not in Milwaukee. The defense like head of

660
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: neutral this company, he's in his twenties. Because who we're

661
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: gonna do all? I'm gonna be the Donald Trump of Milwaukee. Well,

662
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: the first project construction stopped Threeway tis ago. The worst

663
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: thing is they've dug the hole in the ground. Now

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Speaker 2: you're approaching winner. That's bad. This thing has to be

665
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: sealed off and so on. Construction stopped. Apparently the contractors

666
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: were not getting paid. In other words, the project tears

667
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: to have failed before it literally got off the ground.

668
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: It got under the ground, but nothing built up yet.

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Speaker 2: So on js online Today and in the preddiction of

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Speaker 2: the Journal the City of Milwaukee is now seeking new

671
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Speaker 2: developers for the entire site. In other words, they're willing

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Speaker 2: to divorce themselves from Neutral. There's a backstory here. In

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Speaker 2: this instance, the Milwaukee Common Council never approved a development

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Speaker 2: agreement with Neutral. This was done only by the Mayor's office.

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Speaker 2: The mayor's office is an apartment of community Development. All

676
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: mayor's offices has the problem with DCD and Milwaukee, and

677
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: this goes back decades is it's run by bureaucrats and bureach.

678
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Speaker 2: It's the same problem that you see with Northridge. Well,

679
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Speaker 2: we've got all these ideas for Northridge, all the ideas

680
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: you want, but in Kills somebody puts up their own

681
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: money and says I can make a buck doing this.

682
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: You can't just say we're gonna put such and such here.

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Speaker 2: Somebody has to have the money and think they can

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Speaker 2: mike make money doing it. So DCD, which consists of

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Speaker 2: people who are bureaucrats and not developers who have ever

686
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Speaker 2: put their own capital at risk, endorse this idea because

687
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Speaker 2: it sounds a wallid wonderful. Well it was is kaka

688
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Speaker 2: mami bs. In addition to that, as I've been arguing

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Speaker 2: for some time. I've been arguing this long before, long

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Speaker 2: before it happened. But the apartment the residential market in

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee has now finally been overbuilt. At some point it

692
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: was going to happen. Things get overdone, and I suspect

693
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Speaker 2: that that's one of the reasons that they were having

694
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Speaker 2: a financing on this, that some of the lenders may

695
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: have noticed that two other high rises in downtown Milwaukee

696
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Speaker 2: that were completed in the last two years are not full.

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Speaker 2: So why would this with an inferior location? You want

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Speaker 2: to live on Water Street? No, I don't know why

699
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: anybody who want to live on Water Street maybe South

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Speaker 2: Water into the third Ward or something or another at

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Speaker 2: Water Street. That's a nice place to live weekend nights,

702
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: thousands of people coming around, bombing around of their cars,

703
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: turning wheelies. Why I just anyway, the city is now willing,

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Speaker 2: ready to move on from neutral. And you may recall

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Speaker 2: that I had suggested from the very beginning that none

706
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Speaker 2: of this was ever going to come to fruishing. You're

707
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Speaker 2: listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark

708
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: Belling podcast. Here's the thing about when a consensus of

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00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: thought develops in the media on the left. He says,

710
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: this is what's going to happen. Most people aren't smart

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00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 2: enough to actually know what's going to happen. So whatever

712
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: this expert says, this is what's going to happen, they

713
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: just accept that as gospel. COVID was the perfect example

714
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: of this, and then when it doesn't happen, they can't

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00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: process that it's not happening because they were just it

716
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: was going to happen. Tariffs, we have been told, and

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00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: the talking plan from the left now and the media

718
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: for the entire time Trump is and the President is

719
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: the tariffs are going to be inflationary. Well, again, it's

720
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Speaker 2: like the Milwaukee apartment market being overbuilt. Maybe at some

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Speaker 2: point they will be, but so far they're not. An

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Speaker 2: interesting report now from the San Francisco Fed. Remember that

723
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Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve is broken into districts around the United States.

724
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Speaker 2: This is the San Francisco Fed. The San Francisco Fed

725
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Speaker 2: has done US study on the economic impacts of tariffs,

726
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: and interestingly they break from this earlier consensus. In the

727
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Speaker 2: report from the San Francisco Fed they say, in fact,

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Speaker 2: tariffs are not inflationary, but they have a different downside

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Speaker 2: that what they do is slow the economy down, in

730
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Speaker 2: other words, the opposite of driving up inflation overheating. In fact,

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Speaker 2: the problem with tariffs, according to the San Francisco Fed,

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Speaker 2: is they actually slow down economic activity because all of

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Speaker 2: these cheap goods are no longer being dumped into the

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Speaker 2: United States. Let me quote briefly. We find that a

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Speaker 2: tariff hike raises unemployment, lowering economic activity, and lowers CPI inflation. No,

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Speaker 2: you'll note this is completely different than the original leftist narrative.

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Speaker 2: The original leftist narrative was that the tariffs create inflation.

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Speaker 2: The San Francisco FED and don't be surprised now if

739
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: the lefties jump on this and now clay hold on,

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Speaker 2: let's cause it unemployment when their earlier clan was inflation.

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Speaker 2: The San Francisco Freed is saying, actually, tariff's lower inflation,

742
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Speaker 2: lower CPI using only tariff changes, as the San Francisco

743
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: Fed driven by long term considerations, that traditional narrative identification

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00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: gives similar results. We also obtain similar results if we

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Speaker 2: restrict the sample to the modern post World War II period,

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Speaker 2: or if we use independent variations from other countries like

747
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: France and the UK. Now, the takeaway on. This is

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Speaker 2: all these people on the left who just automatically said

749
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: the tariffs are going to be inflationary never actually looked

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Speaker 2: at the data, because a comprehensive study would show the

751
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: tariffs and or not inflationary. But they but they might

752
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: have another effect. Now, I do believe the economy is slowing.

753
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: So far, the GPI, the growth in the economy has

754
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: been very good. It's three point four percent GPI. That's excellent.

755
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: It's not booming, but it's excellent. But you see signs

756
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: of slowing, job softening, lots of slowing out there, less demand.

757
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: Christmas sales are not thought to be very going to

758
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: be very good this year. All of that. Trump has

759
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Speaker 2: been arguing for lowering interest rates. The opponents have been

760
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: saying no, no, no, no way. Because of your tariffs, things

761
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: are going to be inflationary. But in fact inflation is

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Speaker 2: now seemingly under control. You don't end you know, all

763
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: things are still high. Well see, that's the problem with

764
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Speaker 2: the inflation that came in during Biden. You don't want deflation.

765
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: That's terrible. Deflation probably means you're in a depression. The

766
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Speaker 2: damage has been done with the inflation that has been there,

767
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: but it seems to have been brought under control. The problem,

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Speaker 2: if there is one from the tariffs, is that it

769
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: may slow down the economy. Now, I agree with Trump

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Speaker 2: that interest rates should be lowered. I do not think

771
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: that we're in an inflationary period. I think that you're

772
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: seeing a slowing economy for zillions of reasons, and therefore

773
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: lowering interest rates would be a smart thing to do.

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Speaker 2: That's the man the position of Trump, and I think

775
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: now the evidence is going to be that we are

776
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: not seeing an acceleration of inflation in the economy, just

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Speaker 2: the opposite. We're seeing slowing and therefore a lowering of

778
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: interest rates would be the smart thing to do. But

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Speaker 2: from the overall Fed, not the San Francisco Fed. They've

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Speaker 2: been fretting for the past year that Trump's tariffs would

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Speaker 2: be inflationary, and again maybe they will be by twenty

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Speaker 2: ninety six. They're not now. And you can go into

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Speaker 2: all of the reasons why a tariff charged on the

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Speaker 2: importer wouldn't be inflationary. Whether or not would be inflationary,

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00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is the consumer's ability to

786
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: buy something remains the same. If the tariffs create an

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00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: added cost but it also reduces the desire of somebody

788
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: to buy the product. You end up with things not inflating,

789
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: because the demand for our product is always the thing

790
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 2: that sets the price. Things like tariffs may be a contributor,

791
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: but the demand for a product will always be more

792
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: important than any external cost that is building to those

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00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 2: that are trying to sell the product. In the meantime,

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00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: despite what I'm saying, there was an interesting i'll use

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Speaker 2: the term pivot by Trump. Over the weekend, the White

796
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: House Office of Communications put on a big multi page

797
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Speaker 2: thing about how Trump is making progress on affordability. I

798
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Speaker 2: think you know why he's doing that. What in my

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Speaker 2: Donnie run on in New York affordability And that's the

800
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Speaker 2: appeal to the leftist. Let's just give everybody stuff for free.

801
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: Everything's too expensive. The problem, of course with socialists is

802
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: in their attempt to give everything away for free, they

803
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: run out of money. And you never and we never

804
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: have anything to give away at all. You just have

805
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: shortages everything, nothing's ever produced. The famous Margaret Thatcher line.

806
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: Socialism works until we run out of other people's money.

807
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: It's the problem. Nonetheless, this message has resonated, particularly with

808
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: younger people who don't want to work. So Trump is

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Speaker 2: now responding with a number of statements with regard to

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Speaker 2: the progress he's made on affordability, which I think the

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Speaker 2: case that he makes is compelling. Inflation exploded under Biden,

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Speaker 2: and the growth rate and the increase in the CPI

813
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: grows down every quarter. The inflation is now, you you know,

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Speaker 2: right around one and a half to two percent, as

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Speaker 2: I think optimal, and we're almost to that level after

816
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Speaker 2: Biden pushing us nearly double digits. In the statement from

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Speaker 2: the Trump Office of Communication, President Trump came Biden's inflation crisis.

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Speaker 2: Under Biden, inflation averaged nearly five percent, hitting nine point

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Speaker 2: one percent during the worst inflation crisis in decades, fueled

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Speaker 2: by radical less spending, and President Prump's second term, inflation

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Speaker 2: is dropped to an average of just two point seven percent. Next,

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Speaker 2: Americans have made real wage gains, but there's still work

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Speaker 2: to do. Under Biden, workers lost over twenty nine hundred

824
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Speaker 2: dollars in purchasing power. What's purchasing power? Do you know

825
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: what purchasing power is? Yeah, you don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's your pay compared to inflation. Let's imagine your pay

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Speaker 2: goes up seven percent and inflation goes up seven percent,

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Speaker 2: you'd be flat. That would mean your purchasing power didn't change.

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Speaker 2: If your pay goes up more than the rate of inflation,

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Speaker 2: that means your purchasing power increased. Under Biden, wage growth

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Speaker 2: was not close to the increase in price, so's that's

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Speaker 2: a purchasing part. Means under Biden, workers lost over twenty

833
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 2: nine hundred dollars in purchasing power, meaning inflation rows faster

834
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Speaker 2: than wages. In President Prump's second term, even after accounting

835
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: for higher prices, Americans' real wages have grown by nearly

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00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars and are on track to increase by

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Speaker 2: nearly twelve hundred dollars after his first full year in office.

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Speaker 2: Gas prices are falling. Here's the thing about gas prices.

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Speaker 2: When there's a Republican in the White House, the media

840
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Speaker 2: covers gas prices only when they go up. When there's

841
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Speaker 2: a Democrat in the White House, the media covers gas

842
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: prices only when they go down. The gas price thing

843
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: has been one of those kind of slow bleeds downward.

844
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Speaker 2: Here in Wisconsin, we've got that thing with the changing

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Speaker 2: in the formulation of the gas that causes a hiccup

846
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Speaker 2: right around the beginning of spring and beginning of fall

847
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Speaker 2: when they change the formulation. But there's been a general

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Speaker 2: downward trend. I use you now have a high falutin car,

849
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Speaker 2: so you use ninety three, don't you. Yeah? So, And

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Speaker 2: I've been track, and I mean I generally the weird

851
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: thing in Florida. And I honestly don't know what this is, Paul.

852
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: As long as I've had that place in Florida, the

853
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: price of the ninety three has moved maybe ten cents.

854
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: It never moves, and it's hardly at all higher than

855
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: regular it up here. Though in Wisconsin it's like a

856
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: buck higher for the ninety three than the eighty seven.

857
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 2: In Florida, the gap doesn't barely doesn't exist. I don't

858
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: know why it is. I honestly don't know. It must

859
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: have something to do with supply. Well, no, the taxes

860
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: the same. It must have something to do with the reformulation.

861
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I actually don't know. I don't know

862
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: what it is to do with so it's barely moved.

863
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm now paying for the ninety three

864
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin somewhere. The last I filled up. I think

865
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: it was three forty nine, and it seems to be

866
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: going down even more since yeah, yeah, And I usually

867
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: go to one of the stations around here and there

868
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: are usually around the same price, and there's certain neighborhood,

869
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: and again the geographic variation is remarkable. You buy gas

870
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: and the Lord East Saide where I live, it's fifty

871
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: to sixty cents higher than when I go out here

872
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: in the suburbs. So I mean, I mean, well, what

873
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: do you care with all your money? It adds up

874
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: with eighteen gallons plus I'm not an idiot, you know,

875
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: all right? That was the next thing on trop Grocery

876
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: prices and housing prices are trending in the right direction.

877
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: Housing prices are going down because we're starting to get

878
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: I think and end of this total imbalance of there

879
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: simply wasn't any supply, and I think that that's one

880
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: of the reasons for the sum softening in housing prices.

881
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: As for grocery prices, the one thing that's keeping grocery

882
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: prices someone high is meat is out of control, and

883
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: that's why Trump is pushing for the importing of beef.

884
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: And I have some sense of what's going on with

885
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: meat prices. I just think that for a zillion reasons. Gradually,

886
00:53:53,080 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: over time American ranchers lowered their beef herds and move

887
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: to other type of farming. And the demand for beef

888
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: has been really high in the United States, and beef prices,

889
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: for example, pork prices are just they used to be.

890
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: Pork prices are. Pork is rather inexpensive right now. It

891
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: just never went up. And I haven't looked lately at

892
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 2: the hog futures as opposed to the cattle futures, because

893
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: that'll tell you what the future is going to be.

894
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 2: But the meat prices remain high. And Trump, I think

895
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: it's the one area where he wants something important. He's

896
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: been tariffing careffin, caraffin tariff and caraffing. But beef prices

897
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: have been at all levels, from like the cheap old beef,

898
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: ground beef and so on to the really high and

899
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: you buy the prime stake, et cetera. They're off the charts,

900
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: and they are coffees another one. But those are unique

901
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: individual things that don't have anything to do with government policy,

902
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: but they're built into the average with regard to the

903
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: food prices. So Trump goes on Anyway, the point on

904
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: this is, as we move toward the mid terms, I

905
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: think the Republicans are sensing that even though everybody you

906
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: should know, the reason things are high is because everything

907
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 2: in flated under Biden. But they're now going to try

908
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: to blame Trump for this and run on this whole

909
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: notion of affordability, and Trump is going to try to

910
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: make the case, Look, we've made tremendous progress in this area.

911
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: I want to now go to the latest rift within

912
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: the Republican Party. Part of this is I kind of

913
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: think Trump is culling the herd a little bit. You

914
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: know what that term means. You know, you don't we

915
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: are there is. I just think that there are some

916
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: of these people that were in the Trump universe that

917
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: he's decided are more trouble than they're worth, like Marjorie

918
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: Tailor Greed. Now here's the thing about Marjorie Taylor Greed.

919
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: She's very courageous, and she's very outspoken, and she's been

920
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: willing to take all sorts of crap from the left.

921
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: She also has a few ideas that are nutty, but

922
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: in general, I think her positions are correct and solid

923
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: with those few exceptions, but she's also a pain in

924
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: the ass. She's one of these people that demands that

925
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 2: you agree with her on everything. Marjorie Taylor Green has

926
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: been There's always somebody, you know, on our side of

927
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: the right that the left likes to mock as stupid

928
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: and looney and an idiot. They've tried it with Trump,

929
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: but just you can't sell anymore that Trump is stupid.

930
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: You could try to argue that he's an egomaniac and

931
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: so on, but the left can't make the case credible

932
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: anywhere that Trump isn't a smart guy. So they've just

933
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: gone after Marjorie Taylor Green. I think they don't like them.

934
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: They don't like her look, they don't like her blondness

935
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: and her outspoken and all of that. Yeah, she'd wear

936
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: the mag the whole thing, and they just didn't like her. Now,

937
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 2: Trump and Marjorie Taylor Green a broken. I know why

938
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: they've broken. She wants She wanted to run for Senate

939
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: in Georgia. She would lose the seat. She might win

940
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: the primary, but she'd lose the seat because she not

941
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: only is despised by the left, people in the middle

942
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: don't like her, and Trump does not want to lose

943
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: the Senate. So Trump told her, I'm not going to

944
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: endorse you if you run for the Senate. Margorie got

945
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: to stay in the house. Marjorie doesn't like carrying that.

946
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 2: So Marjorie pops off something with regard to Epstein, And

947
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: there's this rift. I here's what I'm wondering, And I says,

948
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: is sincere wondering if Marjorie Taylor Green now goes wholesale

949
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: anti Trump, that if she doesn't understand, if you get

950
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: into a pissing match with Trump, you're gonna lose. Let's

951
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: suppose Marjorie doesn't understand that. You understand that, don't you.

952
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: I know she would not win it, right, But the

953
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: thing about some people like her is she may not

954
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: know that. If she does get into that match, though,

955
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: will the left embrace her as courageous? I wonder see.

956
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: One of the things is I've argued forever the political

957
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: spectrum is not a lie, that you don't go all

958
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: the way to the left and on the other end is

959
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: all the way right. That it's a circle that the

960
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: extreme left and the extreme right ultimately bump into one another,

961
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: that where they bump into one another. That was Hitler

962
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: hilar was a leftist. He's a socialist, government control all

963
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: of that stuff, anti Semitic, hateful monster. We'll look at

964
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: our left now and then I'm want of anti semitism,

965
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: and you're seeing some of that, I think also on

966
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,959
Speaker 2: the right. Anyway, Marjorie Taylor Green mos far enough into

967
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: this fringe while batting Trump around and et cetera. I

968
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: can't rule out that she and AOC would develop some

969
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: sort of an alliance. Right, Well, I know, but now

970
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 2: she hadn't gotten her way in a couple of things.

971
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: And see, I think that Trump will put anybody in there,

972
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: and he tolerates this agreement, but he doesn't want somebody

973
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: that's kicking him in the teeth, particularly when he was

974
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: he elevated her, you know, at the inauguration. He didn't

975
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: have to give her a prime seat. Everywhere Trump would be,

976
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: she'd be one of the three or not every member

977
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: Congresses in that orbit. She had that spot. Same thing

978
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: with Tucker, he was being trotted around everywhere and all

979
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: of that. Well, you don't get to be in the

980
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: inner circle if you're going to be somebody who turns

981
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: in the guy. And again that doesn't mean that everybody

982
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: is beholding you offt to agree with Trump on everything.

983
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: But if you want to be in Trump's inner circle,

984
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: if you want Trump to prop you up constantly, you

985
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: can't be somebody who not only disagrees but take shots

986
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: the bulls that maybe Fetterman could take ivan. So anyway,

987
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: that's what's going on with that. On the whole issue

988
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: of Epstein. There is now a change in the Trump

989
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: response on this. I'm going to get in first of all,

990
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: to what I think the whole Trump Epstein thing relationship is.

991
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: I think Trump knew Epstein just the way, in the

992
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: same way that Trump knew everybody in that orbit, and

993
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: because he knew him, I think he probably said some

994
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: friendly things about him. Do I think Trump went to

995
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: the island and had sex with any of these No,

996
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: and if there was any evidence of that, they come

997
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: they would have produced it during the time that Biden

998
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: was the president. But there's probably a couple of emails

999
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: where Okay, you want to do a deal or something

1000
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: like that where that happened. So the Democrats are trying

1001
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: to bring this up to try to again implicate Trump

1002
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: and this whole Epstein thing, in which the implication is

1003
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: only what I just said. So Trump is now here's

1004
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: the new position. He's saying, fine, if you really want

1005
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: to revisit Epstein, we're revisiting who it was that actually

1006
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 2: had sex with women with Epstein. The only name that's

1007
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: been nailed down for certain is Prince Andrew. Nobody's disputing that,

1008
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 2: including I think almost even him now he's even kicked

1009
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: out of the royal family. But all this other stuff,

1010
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: and I understand why this whole problem with the files

1011
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: is names and emails in there. There aren't things in

1012
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: which there's like a chart that says this person had

1013
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: sex with this girl. It's just who knew this and

1014
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: who knew that? But clearly some people went down to

1015
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: that island. The next thing is not all the women

1016
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: at the island were under age, some were over as,

1017
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: some were of legal age, were correct way of saying it,

1018
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: and who was doing what been vague? Anyway, Trump is

1019
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: now firing out five you want to go look at this,

1020
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the people who actually did stuff with Epstein,

1021
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: because they're all of the left. Here's Trump in a

1022
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: post on truth social now that the Democrats are using

1023
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: the Epstein holks involving Democrats not Republicans to try to

1024
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: deflect from the disaster, shutdown and all of the other failures.

1025
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: I will be asking ag Pambondi in the Department of Justice,

1026
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: together with our great patriots at the FBI, to investigate

1027
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein's involvements and relationships with and then he names names.

1028
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know these names, I'll

1029
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: tell you all. Bill Clinton no need to explain who

1030
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: he is. Right by the way, I don't think the

1031
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: Democrats care Bill Clinton. The Clintons are in their rearview mirror.

1032
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: No Democrat cares what happens to Hillary, and they don't

1033
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: care at all about Bill's reputation. Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman,

1034
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: that's a Biggie founded LinkedIn billionaire. He's right there with

1035
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: Soros and bank rolling Democrat candidates. JP Morgan Chase, that's

1036
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: Jamie Diamond's company. That was Epstein's bank, and many other

1037
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: people and institutions. Records show that these men and many

1038
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: others spent large portions of their life with Epstein and

1039
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: on his island. Next, The Washington Post reported over the weekend,

1040
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: I should give you a background. The United States Territory

1041
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: tories do not have voting members of Congress, but they

1042
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: have representatives in Congress who can't vote. For example, Puerto

1043
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: Rico is a United States territory. There's a Puerto Rican

1044
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: delegate to the Congress, but that person doesn't get a

1045
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: vote because they're not a state. But they're allowed to

1046
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: sit in there and represent and you know, if there's

1047
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: an issue that a constitute of Puerto Rico has, they

1048
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: can you know, work with the government the same way

1049
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: you're Congress and good, but they can't vote. This deals

1050
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: with the United States. Representatives from the US Virgin Islands

1051
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: also requires explanation. Some of the Virgin Islands are British,

1052
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: some are the United States. You should know which are

1053
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 2: the United States. From all of the cruises that we've

1054
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: taken to the Virgin Islands, what are the three US

1055
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: Virgin Islands? Saint Thomas is one, you got two left,

1056
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: one down, two to go. No, I gotta think Saint

1057
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: Croix is a second one. No, it's not saying Lucia, No,

1058
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: I got to think myself. It's that it's that small

1059
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: island near Saint Thomas. Remember that, you know, we take

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Speaker 2: a side trip from Saint Thomas. Some people could take

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Speaker 2: on that Saint John. That's it. Saint John's Saint John,

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Speaker 2: and I've never I've never taken that side trip, but

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Speaker 2: everybody goes to Saint John says it's beautiful. The problem

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01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: is if you're going on the cruise, that means you

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: can't spend a day in Saint Thomas, which is really cool.

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01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: It has great beach and great shopping, but Saint John.

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Speaker 2: Everybody says it's beautiful, but I've never been. Yeah, Michael Jordan,

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01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: et cetera. It's basically beautiful and place for fun for

1069
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: snorkling going on the water, but there's otherwise anyway, that's

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Speaker 2: the US Virgin Islands. This is the representative from the

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Speaker 2: US Virgin Islands, Stacy Plaskett. The Washington Post reported over

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Speaker 2: the weekend that Stacy Plaskett, and I'll just quote here,

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01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: was texting and coordinating her questioning of Michael Cohen. Remember

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01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: Michael Cohen, He was the Trump lawyer who then turned

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: on Trump in the first term. Stacy Plaska was coordinating

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01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: or questioning of Michael Cohen with Jeffrey Epstein during a

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen congressional hearing. So when Stacey Plaska was grilling

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01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: Michael Cohen, it was Jeffrey Epstein feeding her the questions.

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Speaker 2: In other words, the implication here is that Epstein was

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: trying to get Trump and going through this Virgin Islands

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Speaker 2: congressman to do so. House democrat exchanged texts with Epstein

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01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: during nineteen twenty nineteen congressional hearing. Stacey Plaska, a Democrat

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01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: who represents the US Virgin Islands in Congress as a

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01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: non voted delegate, exchanged texts with convicted sex offender Jeffrey

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Speaker 2: Epstein during a twenty nineteen congressional hearing. Well, this would,

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: first of all, certainly imply that Epstein was not anybody

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01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: that was looking out for Donald Trump. Secondly, that at

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01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: least one Democrat was totally compromised by our relationship with

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. I want to get to this story now,

1090
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: and this is one of those that I've been on

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01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: the following issue on a number of podcasts, and this

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01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: just feeds into a narrative that I have. Jim Farley

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01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: is the CEO of Ford. He was on a podcast

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: over the weekend in which he talked about the difficulty

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01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: Ford has. He says they have five thousand mechanic jobs

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01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: right now unfilled in which they're offering one hundred and

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01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars a year almost said, an hour, one

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: hundred twenty thousand dollars a year, and they can't fill them.

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Speaker 2: I've talked forever about this. It's so many fields in

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Speaker 2: which even in a slowing economy, we have jobs that

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01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: employers can't fill, even when they start offering almost insane

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01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: amounts of money. Now finally's bringing this up. The whole

1103
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: notion of the four to one. It's not the right number.

1104
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: The visas, the visas for the skilled people would come

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01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: into the United States legally through the front door forwarders

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01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: that they're simply are not enough Americans that are capable

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01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: of filling some of these jobs. And they're just people

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01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: keep arguing, no, no, no, there are, there are, there are,

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: there are, But then people like you know, the CEO

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: Fords is, we can't find mechanics. I'm not going to

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01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: go into my whole spiel that I've done. Look at

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01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: the monitor on Fox there's the story we just said

1113
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: about the text of Stacey Paskett and Jeffrey Epstein. It's

1114
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: just uncanny how I'll talk about something and Fox News

1115
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: will be covering it at the same time that I'm

1116
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: covering it. Anyway, we have millions of people in America

1117
01:07:54,520 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: under the age of forty five, underemployed. They're looking at socialism,

1118
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with their degree. And then we

1119
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: have zillions of high paying jobs that they'd be wonderful,

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01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: that would be great, good lives for them, but A

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01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: they don't want to do those jobs, and b they

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01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: don't have any skill at all. And I'm guessing that

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Speaker 2: these mechanic positions at Ford that it's rather skilled mechanic.

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: And you know, some of these companies are spending two

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 2: and three years training workers themselves. But for a lot

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01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: of these companies, the problem with that is, let's imagine

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01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 2: Ford hires you and trains you, you then quit and

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: go to work for somebody else at the skills that

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01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 2: you haven't they don't want to do that. We have

1130
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: this complete disconnect between the jobs that are available in

1131
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: our economy and the things that a people want to

1132
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: do and be that they know how to do. You've

1133
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: got a kid sixteen seventeen years old, rather smart, but

1134
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 2: they're not like book smart, college smart, but they can

1135
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: just don't waste your money sending them to college. There's

1136
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: zillions of physicians that they can do. If they have

1137
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: a little bit of street smarts in them, they can

1138
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: go into that field and maybe end up owning their

1139
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: own business moving forward, or go to a company like

1140
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 2: Ford and move up the ladder and become a form

1141
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: and become somebody who's in charge of manufacturing and a division.

1142
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 2: Just any number of jobs, all the skilled trade. And

1143
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 2: my guess is the type of mechanic that Farley's talking

1144
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: about would be a skilled mechanic that just falls into

1145
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 2: that area, just generally of skilled trades. When we come back,

1146
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about something that I don't get

1147
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 2: what football, Well, that's one of them, but that's not

1148
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: where I'm focused. This is the Mark Belling podcast. This

1149
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling Podcast. I did lose my football

1150
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: pick again. You know what you were whining earlier in

1151
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 2: the year that you can't pick any that's I was

1152
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: off to a great start. And the only I'll point

1153
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: I mentioned that I'm in this contest with friends in

1154
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: which we picked three games. You get choose three games

1155
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 2: to pick against the point spread. The last two weeks

1156
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 2: I did go two and one in that contest. Unfortunately,

1157
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: my radio pick has lost four weeks in a row.

1158
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 2: The two that I got right were both I won

1159
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: by half a point or one point in each of them,

1160
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: but at least something. They're just so many. I just

1161
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: look at complete. Paul. Explain the Detroit Lions to me, Well,

1162
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: I know they're not that good, but explain how a

1163
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 2: team that put up forty points now can't score a touchdown.

1164
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: Now here's the next thing, here's the next, here's the

1165
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: next thing. The Philadelphia Eagles this month. I didn't say

1166
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: this season have the best defense in the NFL, but

1167
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: they didn't in September. Philadelphia has now shut down two

1168
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 2: very very good offenses and not allowed them to score

1169
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 2: at all. Shouldn't a team that has an incredibly dominant defense.

1170
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: Shouldn't you see signs of that all year rather than

1171
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: the pop out of nowhere? Well, I injuries and all that,

1172
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 2: But how do you become that good suddenly? Cincinnati's like

1173
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 2: the weirdest one to be a ball teams started the

1174
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: season with no offense at a great defense. They all

1175
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: have an unstoppable offense at a terrible defense, and then

1176
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: yesterday they couldn't do anything on either side of the

1177
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 2: just it's been very, very difficult. But with regard to

1178
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: the Packers, I mean, finally there's a game that made

1179
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: total sense. The Packers are favored by seven and they

1180
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 2: won by seven, so for good well, they didn't look

1181
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: that they won exactly by what the expectation was. It

1182
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: was one of the few games this weekend that I think,

1183
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 2: I think the Bears and the Vikings, I think, you

1184
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: did you take the Rams? You take the forty nine Ers.

1185
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: Paul Paul won that won his pick there, Like, the

1186
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: Rams were favored by three over Seattle, and that game

1187
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: was decided by two. Seattle missed a field goal that

1188
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: would have won the game. So there were when you

1189
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: look at a points spread and if it's right near it,

1190
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: it means that the outcome would not be surprising. But

1191
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: they just spent so much. There's so many but I mean,

1192
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 2: but that game was in Minnesota and it was right

1193
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: right around. In fact, Minnesota was favored by two and

1194
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: the Bears one by two, so some of those results

1195
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: made some degree of sense. No, here's the thing I

1196
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about is I just read a report

1197
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 2: about the seemingly limitless growth potential of door dash. First

1198
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: of all, they have almost no competitors. They have a

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: semi competitive relationship with Uber eats. But door dash and

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01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: Uber some of those are so closely related. A lot

1201
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 2: of the people that do door dashings type stuff affiliate

1202
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 2: with a ride service firm to do it. But beyond

1203
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: those two, I mean, there may be other businesses that

1204
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: I haven't heard of. If you're going to order some

1205
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,879
Speaker 2: food out, it's DoorDash or Uber eats, right, and probably

1206
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: DoorDash first. So the notion of this, of the story

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01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: that I was reading is the e I'm a growth

1208
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 2: potential for a company. Think about a company in which

1209
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: there's almost no or maybe one competitor that they have.

1210
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 2: Uber and Lyft would be another example of that. There's Uber,

1211
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: and there's left named the third one. I don't know.

1212
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 2: That's my boy. That's like, well, what a great business

1213
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: to have. You're globally involved in something that's grown out

1214
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: of nowhere and you have at most one competitor. I know,

1215
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 2: Uber's It's the same thing with DoorDash and Uber eats.

1216
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: There's one huge, then a medium and nothing. Here's the

1217
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: thing I don't get, and I've just not got it

1218
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: from the beginning, and I always like to admit when

1219
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: things happen that surprise me. As I keep telling people,

1220
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: don't fight it and deny it. Just the opposite. When

1221
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: you acknowledge you are wrong about something, it means you've

1222
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 2: learned and you're now smarter. One of the things that

1223
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm just surprised by, because I don't get it at all,

1224
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: is the whole DoorDash concept. I don't understand it. And

1225
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: here's what I don't understand. It seems to me with

1226
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: regard to eating, you got two choices. You can go

1227
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: out and eat or you can eat at home. The

1228
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: advantages of eating at home is you have control over

1229
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: what you're eating and it's cheaper. The downside is you

1230
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: actually have to do it, and that means you have

1231
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: to have the food in the house and maybe some

1232
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: things you don't know how to cook. But otherwise, if

1233
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: you're eating at home, it's virtually unless you're making something

1234
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 2: insanely expensive, it's generally cheaper. They needed the same thing

1235
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: out and you have control over exactly what it is

1236
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna eat and how much, and the cost saving.

1237
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: The advantage of going out is they make the food

1238
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: for you, they bring it to your table. You don't

1239
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 2: have to wash the dishes, and you get the social

1240
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: experience of going out with friends without having good invite it.

1241
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: You know, that's why you go out, right, you go

1242
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: out to dinner. I mean, I went out for Chinese

1243
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: last night with some friends and we went to China.

1244
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 2: We went and ate Chinese, which is a good Sunday

1245
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: thing to do with the football games are over and

1246
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: so on. Well, you think I wanted to make sweet

1247
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: and sour shimp and then somebody else at the general

1248
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 2: trot chicken. No, I don't want no. So no, you

1249
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 2: go out to a Chinese rest and you do that,

1250
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: and you pay more, probably than it would cost. Here's

1251
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: what I don't get, Paul. I don't get why you

1252
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: want to pay the price that you have to pay

1253
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: for going out but eat at home. I've not gotten

1254
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: it now. Obviously it's a massive market. So there's zillions

1255
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: of people who think otherwise than me. The way my

1256
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 2: this is how my brain is wired. If I'm going

1257
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: to eat home, I'm making it myself to say, buddy,

1258
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: if I want to eat out, the point of eating out,

1259
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: it seems to me, is you get the social experience

1260
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: of eating out, it's a way of going with friends.

1261
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: Maybe there's things going on in the place, maybe you

1262
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: have a drink, You're in an experience, you're seeing all

1263
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: of the other stuff. If you're gonna eat at home,

1264
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: why would you order the same thing that you get

1265
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: at a restaurant to pay a restaurant price, but then

1266
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 2: you're just sitting in home. And I get the whole thing.

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01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: People are lazy and that they don't want to cook.

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Speaker 2: And I know of millennials and exers love it. Am

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Speaker 2: I in either of those groups? No, I'm clear that

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01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: you mentioned the whole convenience thing to me. I I know,

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Speaker 2: I think I get all those explanations. I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: I don't get personally why that's what it is that

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Speaker 2: you would want to do. And it just seems to

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01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: me that if you were going to I mean, it's

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01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 2: generally fun to go out and eat. So if you're

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01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: gonna eat somewhere, if I'm gonna pay those prices and

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01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: get all of it, I think I'd want to go

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01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 2: to the restaurant and you know, have that experience. I

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01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 2: somehow you lived in the middle of nowhere, But if

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01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: you live in the middle of nowhere you don't have

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01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 2: door dash to bring from all these restaurants because you

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01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: might only have one within twenty seven miles. So it's

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01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 2: one of those things that if you would have asked

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01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 2: me when door dash and these things started fifteen twenty

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01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: years ago, will this business work? I would have said no.

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01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 2: I also didn't really see initially the whole thing with

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01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: Uber as opposed to taxi cabs. And you remember my

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01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: initial thing. I just was very wary of going into

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01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: a stranger's car. Well, now the entire world uses Uber

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01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 2: and one set of loomowning. You hear about something bad happening,

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01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 2: but it's worked out, and it was something I certainly

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01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 2: didn't see coming. But the Uber thing at least makes

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01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: some sense. It's more convenient than a taxi and you

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01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: know how much you're gonna pay, and you can get

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01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: him to come right where you are and all of that,

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01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 2: and you see on the app where the thing is

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01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: and so on, as opposed to the poor taxi companies

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: that still have to put the meter in the car

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01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: and all that. But the whole idea of well, I

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01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: just think about last night. Now, the one thing that

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01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: you take out people have done in the past is

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01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 2: pizza and Chinese ben Really, making a pizza at home

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01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 2: on your own is hard to do, and a fresh

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01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 2: pizza tastes better than a frozen pizza, and pizzas aren't

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01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: real expensive. The same thing with Chinese. Chinese generally isn't

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01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,879
Speaker 2: that expensive. But who has all the stuff to make Chinese?

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01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 2: But to order like door dash of McDonald's just seems

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01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: crazy to me. I or door dash of like a

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01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: seventy five dollars dinner from a restaurant and then well

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: fuls is the gratuities? I thought, No, this is Do

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01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: you know how many times I've used door dash never?

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01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: I'm honestly, it's possible. I've forgotten, even in Florida where

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01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 2: I heard like ever cook, I don't. But I've had

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01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: pizzas delivered in the past and some Chinese in the past,

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01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 2: and it is the same thing. But those are different.

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01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't even know how to make

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01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: I throw on the dough. How a You're gonna make

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01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 2: your own pizza and I much prefer but I, well,

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01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: you have a wife who knows how to do that.

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01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 2: Do you see me flipping the dough up of the

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: ear and chopping up all of the such such and

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01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 2: such and so forth and so on. Anyway, I just okay, now,

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01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: let's take me. When I'm down there in Florida. I

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01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 2: go out some of the times and go to places

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01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: where I know people and eat at the bar and

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01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: talk with freads and etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. I can't do

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01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: that every night. I have to sit at home. The

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01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 2: idea that I would order for one of the restaurants

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01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 2: that I go to and pay that price and then

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01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: eat at home, why not just go to the restaurant

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01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 2: and have the fun of that. If somebody eat at home,

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01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be something that costs hardly anything that I

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01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: can make myself, and that's the night that I save

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01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 2: money and eat healthier than I would otherwor I Paul's

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01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 2: explaining to me the appeal of it, I'm just saying.

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01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't see the appeal of it.

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01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: And I just think that there's a way of making

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01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: something simple at home that especially since you know to

1339
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 2: go to the grocery store up, there's zillions of things

1340
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: that you can make that require no preparation. I mean,

1341
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: they cost a little bit more than restaurants stuff. But

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01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 2: a salad that you pick up at the grocery store

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01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: is still wait cheaper than the same salad as in

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01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 2: a restaurant and you just open up the bag and

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: there it is. Or your kids, I just I just

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01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 2: don't get it. I just don't get why they don't

1347
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 2: then just want to. Now you introduce the whole thing

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01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: of kids, But I get that. I get that if

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01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: I had kids, do I think i'd want to I

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01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: would probably want to take them out as much as

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01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: my parents took us out, which was never That is

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01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: the other thing. By when I was a kid, when

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01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: my parents wanted to go out, you know what they did,

1354
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 2: They got a babysitter and we sat in our butts.

1355
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: But now that does anybody even babysitter all anymore? I

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01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: don't think there's many babies. I when I see like

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01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: one year old kids at Brewers' games, that tells me

1358
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: there are that The babysitter industry has crashed. Is it

1359
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: because people do cheap to pay the babysitter. Is it

1360
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 2: because they're afraid the babysitter is a pervert or what's

1361
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 2: the thing on that? Both and hardly anybody babysits, so

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01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 2: it's probably way more expensive. I remember when I was

1363
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 2: a kid, how much you got for babysitting? Did you

1364
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: ever babysit? How much did you get paid? Paul's like

1365
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: ten years younger than me. Ten bucks an hour? I

1366
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 2: think when I was a kid, it was like a

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01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: buck or two. Well, I suppose that's part of it,

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01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 2: but that's simply supply and demand. Again. But like if

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01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 2: you're a high if you're a high school kid, See

1370
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Parents give high school kids too much money,

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01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 2: don't they, because that used to be who babysat really,

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: isn't it, But now they none of them do that.

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01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: But also, if you're a parent, would you trust some

1374
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 2: sixteen year old kid? It just seems like the sixteen

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01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: year old kids are way more dangerous and you could

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01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: never trust them than they were when I was a kid,

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01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: in which, of course you would trust the sixteen Yeah,

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01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 2: a relative, I would say, because you would trust the

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01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: relative and not somebody down the street who you might

1380
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: be fearing is going to be giving the kid fed

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01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 2: at all or something or another. All right, the camera, yeah,

1382
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: well all of that stuff. Anyway, the point of all

1383
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 2: of this is I just don't understand paying for restaurant

1384
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: food but then having to sit at home and eat it.

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01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: Just go to the restaurant. And Paul's got all these

1386
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: other theories and explanations of the whole Why isn't it

1387
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 2: pretty easy to cook at home? If they make it

1388
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: so much easier, I can't cook. Well, it depends on

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01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: what it is that you're I know, okay, Paul, But

1390
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: I want to make a steak. I put it in

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01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: the airfyer and I put on a salad. The effort

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01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: that I put into that is about forty five seconds. Right.

1393
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: If I have a piece of fish, I put it

1394
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: in the oven. Do you think I bet? I have

1395
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 2: not in the last ten years taken more than six

1396
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: minutes to prepare something. The things that take more than

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01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: six minutes, I don't make. That's what you do when

1398
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: you're a single guy. Unless you're a single guy and

1399
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: you have a hobby of liking to do that, and

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01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: I don't. Your wife sends out it because you but

1401
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: you have that all the more reason why you would

1402
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: you think you would never do DoorDash since she's gonna

1403
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: she's willing to do all of that crap herself. For you.

1404
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 2: She she likes that we've clearly exhausted this topic. But

1405
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 2: now I'll get all sorts of react. You don't understand.

1406
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: I know, I don't understand. There's the whole point. I

1407
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: do think it's generational, though I would bet that almost

1408
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: nobody of the universe of door dash users it's minuscule

1409
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: sixty and over. And I'm not saying some people will

1410
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 2: say that they do. I'm just saying I would guess

1411
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 2: that in my age group, I'm the norm for all

1412
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 2: of the reasons that I mentioned, And it's just an

1413
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: attitudinal And then there's a whole thing of no matter

1414
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: how much money you have, there's just some things you're

1415
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 2: gonna be a chief skate on. There's certain things that

1416
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't mind spending way too much money for, but

1417
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: there are others in which it just drives me. I mean,

1418
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,600
Speaker 2: just try. I just think the whole DoorDash thing is

1419
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 2: and it's sae waste of money to order from a

1420
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 2: restaurant when you're or even I mean, if the restaurant

1421
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 2: does take what takeout? Why not just go to wood?

1422
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: I mean, are you that lazy that you need to

1423
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: have them drive it to you? You save it. I mean, see,

1424
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Though I'm single and now I'm only

1425
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: working three days a week, I don't need to save

1426
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 2: any trips. I'm still looking for things to do. You

1427
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: don't want to, you don't even want to, just want

1428
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 2: to be one of those slumps. Well that's the whole

1429
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 2: of the forty percent of these women that want to

1430
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 2: leave the United States that we opened. They want to

1431
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 2: leave the country they're doing they're so lazy, they don't

1432
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 2: want to do anything, and they don't probably don't have kids,

1433
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: and they all at Also I think they're all smoking

1434
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 2: pot or taking their taking their cannabis, which makes them lazy,

1435
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: and they don't want to move. I'm still a go getter.

1436
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 2: You're more like me than you are like them, aren't you.

1437
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 2: Probably see you should aspire to be more like me

1438
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: and just all things. You haven't passed me in the football,

1439
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: have you. Yeah, I'm a slump. I am committed to

1440
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 2: finding a winner. This is when I you know, I

1441
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 2: lost fo in a row. I gotta get mine. I

1442
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 2: mean I just had another terra. I had a big

1443
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 2: ten point favorite that lost the game outright. I mean

1444
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: it was two terrible picks in a row Id Warner,

1445
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 2: Roll Losses, all Right out of Time, Fuck You Next

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