1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: I'm Andy Reesemy. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 3: Are good evening on this Monday, November seventeenth, just past 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 3: seven o'clock. Lots coming up on tonight's show, Fully Caffeinated, Ready. 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: To Go Baby. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: We're gonna, of course, be talking about the latest on 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: the storm man just snuck up on us here in 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: the San Fernando Valley. Plus, if you can drive a 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: stick shift car, you might be able to get paid 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: to teach someone else. How about that pay it forward. 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: Plus we are looking at the total financial cost of 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: the government shutdown. I know that's interesting to some people 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: who like math. And then later we talked to an 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: American airline or excuse me, I intertually don't know what 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: airline he flies for. I have to just say, I 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: don't know. He's a seven eighty seven pilot, and he's 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 3: a commercial pilot, and he's going to talk to us 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: about those DC tens that are now grounded along with 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: the MD eleven's that of course following that airplane crash 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: back and the beginning of last week the ups crash 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 3: and Loville. So we got lots to talk about. But 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: first I know that she's got to go to bed soon, 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: so we don't want to keep her waiting. We have 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: on the phone my sometimes friend and yours, Casey Montoya, 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: the weather extraordinaies is that? 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Is that fair? 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: Is that what you call yourself? 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 4: That's exactly what I call myself. I call myself a 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 4: weather actress, a weather actress. 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: I was going to say, like extraordinaiis, which is also 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: a nonsense word. But you are I know you. You 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: are getting your meteorology degree. Are you a full meteorologist? 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: Now? 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Andy, I just play one on TV. 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: Listen. 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: You know the kind of people who get to do 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: the weather at KTLA. 38 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: All right, No, yeah, I did go to weather school, Andy, 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: and I have actually put you through weather school like KTLA. 40 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: I think you do a great job. I think you 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: have a lot of personality and you're smart and for 42 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: people listening, you're a very fast learner, like you pick 43 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: it up. 44 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. Well. 45 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: You know, the thing is that you are terrifying and 46 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: as a teacher, I feel like if I screw up, 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: you will kill me. And that just was not an 48 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: option for me in that afternoon. So tell me about 49 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: this storm. This is kind of surprising to me at 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: least just how heavy this is. This feels maybe even 51 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: heavier and longer period of rain than I saw on Saturday, 52 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: at least in the San Fernando Valley. 53 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, we started to get these alerts from the National 54 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: Weather Service this afternoon, like in the one o'clock hour 55 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: that they were like, okay, this is what we're seeing 56 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: on our radars, and now we think we might see 57 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: more rainfall than what was previously predicted. Yeah, we thought 58 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: this was going to be, you know, a little bit weaker, 59 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 4: and it is a little bit weaker because it's colder 60 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: than the storm we saw on Saturday, which broke a 61 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: lot of records. But you know, honestly, I thought this 62 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 4: was going to start to move in and be really 63 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 4: heavy for us later this morning. And sometimes these just 64 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: stall out move slower than we think. So for everyone 65 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: calling and texting in the valley, like you Andy, saying 66 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 4: where did this come from? And when is it going 67 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: to stop? Yeah, I drove home through some of those 68 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: really really torrential downpours basically when the flash flood warnings 69 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: in effect. I think a lot of those just expired though. 70 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: In the seven o'clock hour. 71 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, now, well, there's been an it's been extended now 72 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: until nine to nineteen. We actually just had that EMS 73 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: alert right before we came on the show here and 74 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: now if you're looking at any of the local broadcast stations, 75 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: you'll see that Emergency Alert System flash flood warning for 76 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: Los Angeles County now in effect until nine to nineteen pm. 77 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: And I'm looking at the radar here and I can 78 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: see that over the next hour or so that will 79 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: start to move out of the San Fernando Valley to 80 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: the north and to the west, which is good because 81 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: we've had some pretty steady rain for the last few hours. 82 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: But I was walking through the neighborhood when I was 83 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: going to the car, and I have never seen the 84 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: sidewalks flooded. I'm like walking through large puddles on the 85 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: sidewalk and it's crazy. 86 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: And we came over. 87 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: I came down the one thirty four over towards Bourbank 88 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: coming to the station here, and I could see as 89 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: the light was hitting the freeway that the water was 90 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: coming across the freeway like icing on a sheet cake, 91 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: and it was crazy. 92 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: Achnology is that it isn't The problem is that we 93 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: have had so much rain with two previous storm systems 94 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: that you know, a lot of times people don't understand, 95 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: like the ground is saturated, that water really has nowhere 96 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: to go, and so it's just pooling in the streets. 97 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: It's making for more dangerous conditions. Even if we weren't 98 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: going to get in as much rain today as we 99 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 4: got on Saturday, you know, the potential for those dangerous 100 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: conditions to legit exist just because of that ground. I mean, 101 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: it is soaked as far as it could get soaked. 102 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: And man, I'm telling you, Andy, that was a really 103 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: scary drive home and having those emergency alerts. I was 104 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: listening to Tim Conway. Having those emergency alerts added to 105 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 4: the terror. 106 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. 107 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: And we were also I think playing some of your 108 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: weather forecasts during Conway, which additionally adds to the terror. 109 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: I want to ask you something that whether people always 110 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: say that doesn't make any sense to me, is that 111 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: when people say, like, oh, an inch of rain is 112 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: actually means five feet of rain or whatever the hell 113 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: that you are always talking about. 114 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: When you say that, how come that's so hard to understand. 115 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever said that. I don't even 116 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: know what you're talking about. 117 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: Maybe I said that. 118 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 5: I mean, you did. 119 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: Say that, Andy, No, but it is something to take 120 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: very seriously because you see people driving. 121 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 6: You know. 122 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 4: It irked me so much tonight is that you know, 123 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: this speed limit is sixty and you know most of 124 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: us are going forty, but there's still people on their phones, 125 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: like in the middle of this dangerous weather. So you know, look, 126 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: most of these accidents like we can prevent And let 127 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 4: me be your public service announcement right now for those 128 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: driving in the car, Like you're doing something safe by 129 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: listening to the radio. But man, there is no text 130 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: that is important enough for you to look down at 131 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: your phone while you are driving in you know, a 132 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 4: flash flood. 133 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Okay, So you were 134 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: going going from the station in Hollywood. I won't say 135 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: your address, but you were going to Can you say 136 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: what part of the city you were driving to? 137 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: Well, I don't live in La thank god, I moved 138 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: to the South Bay. Driving to the South. 139 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: Bay, Yeah, so through that stre it was pretty treacherous. 140 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and just down for is out of nowhere, 141 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: you know. Sometimes I grew up in Texas though, and 142 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: so let me just say as bad as this was, 143 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: today Texas has guys be here and so cal As 144 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: far as scary weather, well, yeah, that's the kind of 145 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: rain that you have to pull over because you just 146 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: literally can't your winchol wippers can't keep up with the 147 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: amount of rain. 148 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: Oh it's so funny. 149 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: I haven't thought about that in a long time, because 150 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: you know, I grew up them Midwest and we had 151 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 3: the same kind of thing where it would rain and 152 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: then it would get so hard that your winchel wipers 153 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: couldn't keep up with it, and you would you'd pull over. 154 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: Mark Roner, our news anchor, is from Seattle, so or 155 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: lived in Seattle for a long time, so he absolutely 156 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: knows how this is. And then it sometimes it turns 157 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: into hale and then you think, yeah, is it You 158 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: know that moment where you're like, is it hale? Is 159 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: it becoming hale? Or is it just big droplets crazy stuff? 160 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: How long do you think that this is going to 161 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: keep going on? For people in La tonight. 162 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: Well, for people in Lace and I hopefully those showers 163 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: will taper off. That's at least what the radar are 164 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: showing us. And then for the Inland Empire Orange County 165 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: of course, because you guys got this later. It'll last 166 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: through the night, but we still have the chance of 167 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: seeing thunder storms overnight. And some of these rainfall rates. 168 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: You know, my computer at home doesn't load, you know, 169 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: as fast of data as it does at work. But 170 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: I was just looking at some of the rainfall rates 171 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: for like the last three hours, and some spots in 172 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: the valley have already gotten an inch of rain. I 173 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: was trying to find like the Yeah, there's a couple 174 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: that was a little over an inch, just under an inch, 175 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: significant rain, Yeah, just in the lot I put on 176 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: there in the last three hours, even a half an 177 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: inch for parts of LA at the airport, the last 178 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: three hours, it's like a zero point three to six. 179 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: So I mean, we're talking about significant rainfall again in 180 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: addition to what we just got, and then the one 181 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: before that, And now we have another storm all headed 182 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: our way Thursday into Friday. So after that though, at 183 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: least looking at the models right now, it looks like 184 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: we'll dry out, temperatures might be back to normal. But yeah, 185 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: it's for everyone who wants to go out and put 186 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: I put the Christmas lights up anyway in the rain, 187 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: you know, why not? 188 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what do you have to live for? 189 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: Right in the rain gets struck by lightning? 190 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: Come on, Casey, no big deal. 191 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 4: Don't people break in the rain? 192 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: Okay? All right, well that's that's fine. 193 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: What we do we go on TV and we say 194 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: don't do this, and then in our private lives we 195 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: do every our private live shot, we do everything we 196 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 4: told you not to. 197 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: That's right. You never pack your patients, that's just all right. 198 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: Casey Montoya from kt LA, thank you so much for 199 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: being here. Appreciate you for calling in and keeping us safe, 200 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: keep us posted. Please text me if any developments occur 201 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: as far as me needing to leave the building here 202 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: in Burbank, I would appreciate it. 203 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: But that's gonna have to be before a thirty because 204 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 4: then I'm going to sleep. It's on you after that. 205 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 2: There, she goes, Casey Montoya, you're listening. 206 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: To KFI AM six forty on demand. 207 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: I me, Eddie Reesmeyer, thanks for being here this evening. 208 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: Good fine me on the internet at Andy, KTLA got 209 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: lots to talk about. Can you drive a stick shift car? 210 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: Was the question that we had this morning on the 211 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: KTLA More News. I put a call out to people 212 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: who are watching as I do every day, to interact, 213 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: send a note, talk back as they say, and it 214 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 3: was just what are you doing? Do you drive a 215 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: stick shift? Have you driven a stick shift? And do 216 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: you have a fun story about it? I got more 217 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: responses to that question than I've ever received from any 218 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: other thing that I've asked. I don't know why. I'll 219 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: get into a story, but later on we'll open up 220 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: the phone lines. You can give us a call and 221 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: tell us your stories, and I'll read some of the 222 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: other stories that weren't able to do on the air 223 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: this morning on KTLA. But I also want to make 224 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: sure that you're aware that the fifteenth annual CAFI Pastathon 225 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: is here. Give it up for Chef Bruno's charity, Katerina's Club. 226 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: Of course, they provide more than twenty five thousand meals 227 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: every week to kids in need in so cal Your 228 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 3: generosity makes all of this happen. 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We've also got 250 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: some upcoming live broadcasts that will be fun about the 251 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: Pastathon experience. Friday, the twenty five first Conway will be 252 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: live at Smart and Final in your Belinda that's right 253 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: off the ninety one Freeway. From four to eight pm, 254 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: you can shop for Thanksgiving, you could donate to the 255 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 3: pasta Thon experience in store. See mister Conway, I call 256 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: him mister Conway. He does not like that, he referred. 257 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: He wants him to be You' like, please just stop 258 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 3: calling me mister Conway. Just call me Tim. I'm like, yes, sir, 259 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: mister Conway. I'm so sorry, he said, stop, just it's 260 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: too weird. Then Saturday eleven twenty two, Nil Savedra will 261 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: be broadcasting live between two and five PM at Wendy's 262 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: in Mission via Ho. That's on Alicia Parkway. So very 263 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: fun stuff there. Pasta Thon Kay if I am six 264 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: forty dot com slash pasta Thon. 265 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: Past ten thion p A S t A t A 266 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: Joe N. You're gonna go, Ronner. I will be here 267 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: doing the news. 268 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna head on down I think for Gary and 269 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: Shannon's show after the morning show. So I will be 270 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: there during the morning of December second, sometime after eleven am. 271 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: But you try the food there. The food is really good. 272 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: What do they have? What did I have? I can't 273 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: remember what I had? Do they have any is there? 274 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it pasta? They? Well, it's a it's 275 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: a big restaurant, so they have a big menu. 276 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: Let's look at the menu at the Catarina's Club. We'll 277 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: do that maybe in a later how about that, because 278 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: I do want to get to this other story before 279 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 3: we get out of here. 280 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: Do it. And now I said that I lost I 281 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: lost my script. Okay, you can blame me? Can you? 282 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: You have any got any updates for us as far 283 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: as just like your life, any move? 284 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: Oh did you see Frankenstein? 285 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 6: I did see Frankenstein. Giermo del Toros Frankenstein. Have you 286 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 6: seen it as well? 287 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: I saw it last night. Yeah, I tell me what 288 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: you thought. 289 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: I okay, I'm gonna preface this by saying I am 290 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: an unreliable source because I like everything. 291 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. 292 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: There were times where I kind of was like this 293 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: dragon a little bit, but I thought it was a 294 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: cool movie with a really nice message, and I loved 295 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: the production design. 296 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: It was so yikky. 297 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 3: I had to look away multiple times because I'm a 298 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: little squirmy boy. 299 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: Amputations are rough. Wow, there's just it's so unexpected. But 300 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: you're saying the movie convinced you not to play god? 301 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: Is that it? 302 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 3: I thought that was you know, it's funny because I 303 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: think that I know that that's a big theme of 304 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: the film, Yes, but also the idea of forgiveness and 305 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: the idea of okay. 306 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: And you know, spoiler alert sorry here. 307 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: Oh if you take away someone's ability to die, which 308 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: what could be worse? Really, at the end of the day, 309 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: at least as far as the thesis of the movie goes, 310 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: could you ever be forgiven for that? A fascinating study. 311 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: Production design was cool. Seems like maybe he watched a 312 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: couple of Yorgo's laugh most movies. A lot of wide 313 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: angled shots, a lot of sort of a mysterious production design, 314 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, sort of a surrealist probably is the 315 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: word I was looking for. 316 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 6: Well, it was beautiful. It was production designed to within 317 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 6: an inch of its life. Oh yeah, but I agree 318 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,359 Speaker 6: with you that it did dragon spots. It was very, 319 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 6: very long, very sincere, and for a Frankenstein movie. 320 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't a horror film. 321 00:13:59,559 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: No. 322 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: It was really sweet and kind of nice. 323 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: And it's funny because a lot of the sort of 324 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: heady movies I feel like that you go to see 325 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: in the theater. I first came up with this thesis 326 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 3: when I went and saw The Lighthouse, remember that dreadful film. 327 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't like the Lighthouse. 328 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: My god, there was this whole thing that happening in movies, 329 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: and I think it still persists, which is like a 330 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: movie for it to be good, and an Oscar contender 331 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: must make you feel like absolute garbage when you leave. 332 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 6: It was very touching the Frankenstein movie. But I'll tell 333 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 6: you all that made me want to do was go 334 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 6: and watch the eighty two minute Curse of Frankenstein for 335 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 6: Hammer from the fifties, which really moved along, and I 336 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 6: just thought it was more fun. I mean, this thing 337 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 6: seemed and I've read the book, of course, but this 338 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 6: thing seemed so and slave to the book, like the 339 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 6: book's been around for a really long time. You got 340 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 6: to throw me a new wrinkle. Look, oh that's interesting. 341 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: So I have not read the book because, as you know, 342 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm illiterate, So for me, it was at least new content, 343 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: which I thought was kind of fascinating. 344 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, radio is for the illiterate. Don't let that. Don't 345 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: let that. This is why I always have in trouble, 346 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: all right, So I'll tell you what. Here's the story. 347 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: There is an app kind of like the uber for 348 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: learning how to drive stick shift. If you can't drive 349 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: stick shift, you can go on the app across the 350 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: country more than one hundred metro areas and link up 351 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: with somebody for a couple hundred dollars who will let 352 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: you use their car and teach you how to drive 353 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: a five speed or six speed. 354 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: You have to put down a deposit in case you 355 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: ruin their transmission. You know, I would. 356 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: I cannot imagine wanting to do this, but I guess 357 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: there's some very trusting people out there. So it's called the. 358 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: What is it called? It is called the stick Shift 359 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: Driving Academy. 360 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: Connect to people with manual transmission cars and people who 361 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: want to learn how to drive them. It's a really 362 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: beautiful story. It gives you a better hand eye coordination. 363 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: If you've never driven a stick shift before, I highly 364 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: recommend it. It's a mouthful. Just call it stick school 365 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: and be done with it. Ooh, stick School, No trouble, 366 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: there no issues with that branding whatsoever. 367 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 6: No. 368 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: But what we're gonna do is we'll do this after 369 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: we have our our I think, Richie, is it possible 370 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: for us to have a guest and also open the 371 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: phone lines to call. 372 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: Do we have the technology? Yes? All right, so here's 373 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: what we're gonna do. 374 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: And you're gonna have to wait on hold maybe for 375 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes, so maybe call in ten minutes. 376 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: This is already so terrible. 377 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: I want to know if you can drive a stick 378 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: shift and what your stick drift stick shift driving story is. 379 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: The number is eight hundred five to zero one five 380 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: three four. That's one eight hundred five two zero one 381 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: KFI and we'll take your calls starting at seven forty five. 382 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: How about that? Do we have a deal? Who could resist? Richie? 383 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: We have a deal? 384 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: Solid you're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. B. 385 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm Andy Reesemeyer. If you'd like to reach me at Andy. 386 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: KTLA is the best way, at least if you're using 387 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: the Internet. You could find that anywhere Internet is sold 388 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: on x Instagram. Instagram is usually the place where I 389 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 3: am the most active. I do the most scrolling. 390 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: There. Not a TikTok guy, But I know. 391 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: The thing that is great about social media, which is 392 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: also its ills, is that it will just if you 393 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: do it right, if you curated it correctly, it will 394 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: give you everything you ever wanted to see. I mean, sure, 395 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: it makes you feel empty. Most of it's AI slop, Yeah, 396 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: but I find it to be pretty effective for at 397 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: least finding stories. 398 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: To talk about for the news. 399 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: But I will say I did a thing a couple 400 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 3: weeks ago that we talked about where I went to 401 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: a flight simulator and I learned how to land an airplane, 402 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 3: or at least I saw if I could land a 403 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: seven thirty seven in the case of an emergency. Right, 404 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 3: we've all had, or at least some of us have 405 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: had the fantasy of Okay, the pilot eight, the fish, 406 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 3: the co pilot eight, the fish. Can you land a 407 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: plane just with the help of air traffic control? And 408 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: I would say I did pretty well in the segment. 409 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: But ever since then I have just been receiving non 410 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: stop emergency airplane videos like this situation happened, this simulator failed, 411 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: this pilot landing that got out of control, and what 412 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: this led to catastrophe. It was made worse by the 413 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: news of the last few weeks, which we've been following closely, 414 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 3: which was that tragic crash of a ups MD eleven 415 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: which crashed right after takeoff. 416 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: In Louisville. 417 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: I think we've all been sort of inundated by the stories, 418 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: just thinking about how did this happen? Hope it doesn't 419 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: happen again. Just feel terrible for the people on the ground, 420 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: people on the aircraft, all of it. So we have 421 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 3: a lot of questions about air travel, especially with the 422 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: wake of the shutdowns and how that screwed everybody up, 423 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: and especially coming into the holiday season. So I figured 424 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: we would go straight to the source. Joining us on 425 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: the phone is a seven eighty seven pilot, former and 426 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: engineer on the DC ten, a current commercial pilot, Paul Nelson. 427 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: Captain Paul Nelson. Good to have you here on KFI 428 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: this evening. Thanks for joining us. 429 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 5: Oh, thank you, Andy. How are you. 430 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm so I'm so well and I'm glad that you're 431 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: here to sort of walk us through what's going on here. 432 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: I want to go back to that conversation that we 433 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: were having about the terrible crash that we saw a 434 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: week and a half ago. There, of course was an 435 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: MD eleven who saw it take off. You flew on 436 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: the DC ten back in the day. The MD eleven 437 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: is basically a bigger version of that. It's been a 438 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: while since either plane has carried passengers, mostly now used 439 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: for cargo. But before we sort of get into any 440 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: kind of conversation about what the future of the plane 441 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: looks like in service, what was it like to be 442 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: on that plane and to operate that aircraft. 443 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 5: The DC ken, I mean, they really called it a 444 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: gentleman's aircraft, and most of the guys that I worked 445 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 5: with on that were there's they're very close to retirement, 446 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: and I was lucky enough to make numerous trips to 447 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 5: Hawaii in it. It was great jet, great big roomy 448 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 5: cock fits, very comfortable. I think the passenger liked it 449 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 5: because I had very large overhead bin space and a 450 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 5: lot of room in the galleries for the play at 451 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 5: ten for works. So it was really really a neat airplane. 452 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: One of the things that was coming out after the 453 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 3: investigation started here with this this ups crash is that 454 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: the MD eleven's are all grounded, and then they've also 455 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: gone back and grounded a lot of the DC tens. 456 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: And I know that the MD eleven, you know, like 457 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: I said, it is a lengthened version. It's a little 458 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: more modern version of the DC ten. The DC ten 459 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: was really had a lot of controversy, at least from 460 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: the media's perspective after some some pretty I guess, devastating crashes. 461 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 3: When we talk about the MD eleven, I've heard it 462 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: was like kind of a sensitive jet to fly. 463 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, have some some some design changes in it, 464 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 5: and and one of the I think when they developed it, 465 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 5: one of the biggest things was the fuel efficiency. And 466 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 5: and generally speaking, an aircraft is more efficient when it 467 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: has the center gravity shifted more towards the tail, so 468 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 5: the tail is involved with more so if the overall 469 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 5: total lift generated by the wings and the The NB 470 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 5: eleven had a unique system where it had a in 471 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 5: the horizontal stabilizer back in the tail, had a fuel 472 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 5: tank and fuel automatically during crews get shifted to the 473 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: tail and and put more weight back there. And in 474 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 5: an attempt to make it really meet all the fuel 475 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 5: burned numbers that that they had had promised the developers. 476 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 5: One of the other things that's probably notable on top 477 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: of that from the ten to the eleven is that 478 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 5: the empanage all the the the tail feathers that if 479 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 5: you will, the horizontal and vertical stab were smaller than 480 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 5: the d C ten, so you had less surface area 481 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 5: to to make picks changes, et cetera, and move the 482 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 5: rudder compared to the d C ten, And then you know, 483 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 5: you add that it's a longer airplane by about twenty 484 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 5: feet than some of the leverage arms are different, having 485 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: the fuel shifting around to the CG, the center gravity 486 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 5: shifting around. Yeah, it is that. It was kind of 487 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: innovative in its time. The question is whether it was 488 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 5: on an automatic system. The question is whether it worked properly. 489 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 490 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 5: You know, if you look at at the there's a 491 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 5: lot of landing accidents with the MD eleven and they know, 492 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: you know that in crosswinds apparently, I guess it was 493 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 5: a little bit of a handful, but I think probably 494 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: because I didn't really know where the CG was at 495 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 5: any one time. It was supposed to have shifted everything 496 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 5: out of the tail, you know, on the descent and landing, 497 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 5: But whether that actually occurred or not, I don't think 498 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 5: there's any way of telling. 499 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, absolutely So we're speaking with commercial pilot 500 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: Paul Nelson, who is a seven eighty seven pilot formerly 501 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: an engineer on the DC ten. DC ten was a 502 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: member of category of wide body aircraft called tr jets, 503 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: where there were literally three jets. You had the DC ten, 504 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: the L ten eleven made by Lockheed. Of course here 505 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: in Burbank. That's exciting. Or I guess up in Palmdale 506 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 3: is actually where they built it, but Lockheed was in Burbank. 507 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: And then the MD eleven and I guess it's not 508 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: a wide body jet, but the seven twenty seven. You know, 509 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: we used to see these try jets all the time, 510 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 3: but not anymore. What really sort of made that airframe 511 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: kind of fall out of favor? 512 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 5: Well, really, I think it was development of the two 513 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 5: engine airplanes that were allowed to actually fly long over 514 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 5: water stretches, all using extended twin engine operations. And you know, 515 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 5: when I was flying three engine jets Hawaii, that was 516 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 5: replaced by a seven to sixty seven and seven fifty 517 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: seven two engines, and you know, at first we're really 518 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 5: kind of concerned about it, but once we started buying 519 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 5: it and the capability of the airplane was incredible. Yeah, 520 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 5: you can carry way more cargo and do it two 521 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 5: engine fuel burn versus three engine fuel burn. Right, you 522 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 5: can do the math that you just reduce your fuel 523 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 5: burn costs by about a third pretty simply. 524 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: So I want to ask about this ups plane. You know, 525 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: lots of theories, but obviously we're not going to speculate. 526 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: The NTSP is investigating. They'll have a formal investigation here. 527 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: But a lot of people are comparing it to a 528 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 3: DC ten crash from the late nineteen seventies. I think 529 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: it was nineteen seventy nine American Airlines flight one ninety one, 530 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 3: where a pylon the engine basically fell off on takeoff 531 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: and then there was a catastrophic crash. What happened there? 532 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: And why are people talking about that now? 533 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 5: Well, it's really it's eerily similar, I have to say, 534 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 5: I think what's different? You know the one ninety one 535 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 5: You look at the engine and the engine attached to 536 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 5: the engine pot and the pilons, what's hanging underneath the 537 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 5: wing and that attaches the whole the pilon and the 538 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 5: engine attached to the wing. The pylon let go on 539 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 5: the AC ten crash American one ninety one, and the 540 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 5: whole engine assembly flipped up and over the top of 541 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 5: the wing and it took out the which we call 542 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: the leading edge devices or the slats. And if you know, 543 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 5: when you're taxing out before takeoff, you see all flaps 544 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 5: extend away and the very front part of the wing, 545 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 5: that big section of the leading edge will extend forward. 546 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 5: And what it does is it it increases the surface 547 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 5: area of the wing so it can fly at more 548 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 5: speeds that's needed for takeoff and landing. And once you 549 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: get up to speed, those things are tracked back into 550 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 5: the wing and make it smaller because you'll higher air speed. 551 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 5: But in that case, you know, the engine flipped over. 552 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: It took out the slats because it took out the 553 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: hydraulic lines that kept the slats the leading edge devices 554 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 5: in place, and so that wing stopped generating the same 555 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 5: amount of lift as the right side. What compounded it 556 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 5: is on the engine failure takeoff, you have a speed 557 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 5: that you want to pitch the airplane to to guarantee 558 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 5: your climb rate. But unfortunately it was too slow for 559 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 5: the asymmetric lift. One wing greeting more lift than the other. 560 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 5: So the airplane rolled over. And that looks like if 561 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 5: you look at some of the video on then MD eleven, 562 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 5: it looks very very similah. 563 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: Wow. 564 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: Well, we will, of course keep track and let you know, 565 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: and we appreciate you calling. Talking to commercial pilot Paul Nelson, 566 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: a former DC ten engineer and now pilot on the 567 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 3: seven eight seven. Captain, thank you so much for being 568 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: with us. 569 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 570 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: Hope you're staying dry out there at a very wet 571 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 3: Monday evening. I'm Andy Reesmeyer coming up in the next hour. 572 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: I swear we'll get back on time. Just been fascinated 573 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: talking to a lot of interesting people, you know, But 574 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: we want to hear from you in the next hour. 575 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: Give us a call one eight hundred five to zero 576 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: one five three four. That's one eight hundred five to 577 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 3: two zero one KFI. We want to know if you 578 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: have any fun stories about how you learned how to 579 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: drive a stick shift, if you can drive it, if 580 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 3: you never learned, if you taught somebody else to do it. 581 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: Got a lot of really good messages from KTLA viewers 582 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: this morning. I'll share some of those as well. Cannot wait. 583 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: It's gonna be real, real fun, And of course we're 584 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: going to get the latest on the storm. Looks like 585 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 3: we're gonna have some sprinkles at least all the way, 586 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: and I'm using that euphemistically. It is raining out there. 587 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: Rain started to taper off for the next hour or 588 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: so by the time we reached nine fifteen. Looks like 589 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: a lot of that precipitation that we saw falling here 590 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: in the San Fernando Valley in parts of West Los Angeles, 591 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: that'll all be moving to the north into the west. 592 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 3: So Antelope Valley got some flood and I'm sure I 593 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: was coming over a Magnolia Boulevard and I was crossing 594 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: Laurel Canyon and there's cars like stuff in the flash floods. 595 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: Turn around, don't drown, That's what they always say. I 596 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 3: just drove through it anyway. But it wasn't that bad 597 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: for me. I got a seven inch lift kit on 598 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: my Jetta. Those are rugged, the Jettas, aren't they. Oh yeah, 599 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: you know what that looks like. That looks like an 600 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: on time lease payment. A man in a Jetta looks 601 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: like an on time lease payment. Also really butcher, Yeah, 602 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: oh yeah, masculine. Yeah, I'm crossing the other side of 603 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: the street. If I see a dude parking over in 604 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: his jettah between that or a super ude, watch out. 605 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: Oh be careful, We've got so much coming up. 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