1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: We got Mike Tomlin news. 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Did I just hear a baby cry? Oh no, Mike. 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Tomlin hired an agent with the purpose of going into 4 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: sports media, almost certainly TV analysis in the studio for 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: a network. It wouldn't shock me if he took Tony 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Dungee's place on Sunday Night Football. 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Now that NBC rid. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Themselves of Dongee because he's just, I guess too old 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: and always was boring, then again, Tomlin won't be mister electricity. 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: It's ironic this happening because Tomlin hates the media, has 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: great contempt for everybody but a few suck ups like 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Jay Glazer, and now Tomlin is joining the media. But 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: guys like that don't see themselves as in the media. 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: The ex player's an ex coaches. They just don't see 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: themselves ever, as being in the media. Tom On will 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: see himself is still a coach, but now just talking 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: into a microphone like. 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: He'll be above wretches like me. 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: And if that sounds odd, well that's how those guys think. 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: I bet tom Win does great. He's one hundred percent 21 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: full of crap. I mean one thousand percent full of 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: it says nothing beyond empty platitudes and coach speak, cliches 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and no real analysis. And that was true at his 24 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: press conferences. It'll be true when he does this gig. 25 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: And that makes tom Win absolutely perfect for TV. He's 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: African American too. That definitely helps, especially with Dungee out 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: and tom Win is gonna make more money for a 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: lot less work and investing a lot less time than 29 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: he ever made coaching football. For a lot of these guys, 30 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: coaching is the entry level job, or even playing is 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: the entry level job. Media is the career, even if 32 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: you have contempt for the media like Tomlin does. Mike 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: Tomlin's an ass, but now he's going to be in 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: the media. 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: This is dark Maddon show. You like it? You love it? 36 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: You want more of a doll a three three four 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: one two WXDX. How do you think Mike Tomlin is 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: going to do in the media? Are you looking forward 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: to him doing that? I'll be honest, I never watch 40 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: the football panel this well, they're not studio. They're sometimes 41 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: on site, you know, the one where they sit around 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: the freaking desk, like the Jimmy Johnson, Bill Cowra et cetera. 43 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Although I've seen enough of coward to know he's he's 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: pretty good, better than I thought he would be. 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: Maybe Tomlin will be better than I think he's going 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: to be a bit. 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: But I reiterate, Mike Tomlin will never coach again. He 48 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: might even think he's gonna as he takes this this 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: this media job, this network job, in the studio wherever 50 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: it is, he might think he's going to coach again. 51 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: And some guys do go back to coaching, like like 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Belichick did. I think Bill Parcells did too. I think 53 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: he was in I know he was in media. I 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: think it was between I think he went back to 55 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Dallas to coach after he did some media. But Mike 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: Tomlin will never coach again because he's gonna see it's easy, 57 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: it's lucrative, there's no pressure. Like Bill Kwer said on 58 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: this show, he just works one day a week and gets, 59 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, big money. 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: H It's gonna go exactly like it did with Bill Kauer. 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Everybody thought kyr would coach again, and once he got 62 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: a taste of that, there was no way he was 63 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: ever going to. So your thoughts, how will Mike Tomlin 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: do at H I presume it'll be studio analysis. I 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: don't think he'll be a guy at games, you know, 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: in the booth like Tom Brady. I don't think so. 67 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: I just I see him in the studio like Coward 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: has been as a more comfortable fit. So your thoughts 69 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: on any of all of that A three three four 70 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: one two WXD. We're gonna be talking Buccos when we 71 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: have the season premiere of Debucco Round up at three fifteen. 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: Everybody very excited about that. I want to predict comedy 73 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: wins they gonna get. If you want a preview with that, 74 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: you can go to my trip live dot com column. 75 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'm I'm excited, I guess about the Pirates, 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: just not as excited as you. 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: I think they've improved. I just don't think they've improved 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: as much as you do. 79 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: Like like Matt Clement from Butler X major leaguer Neil Walker, 80 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: Pine Richland of course, the former Pirate they both said 81 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: eighty seven wins. I don't think they believe that. For second, 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: I think they're just trying to, you know, kind of 83 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: be fanboys. But uh, that would be a sixteen win improvement. 84 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Does anybody really see that happening? 85 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: My God? 86 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: And getting back to the discussion I had with the 87 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Corset a couple of minutes ago. If the Steelers are 88 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: drafting for right now, they should draft the left guard 89 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: like like the course, he said, if the next fanic 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: is there, but not even if the next fanic is there, 91 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: if it's somebody who can start, because if you're bringing 92 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: back Grandpa game manager, then you need help right now, 93 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: in particular to keep him vertical, although he showed last 94 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: year that that that's not a problem because he won't 95 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: take a hit to make a play. He just dumps 96 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: the ball off at the first signe of pressure. But yeah, 97 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: the most immediate need is guard. If they took a 98 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: guard in the first round, it's not a sexy pick. 99 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: It's not going to get the podium pop that a 100 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: sexy pick would. But that's the pick that would help 101 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: the Steelers most right now in theory, unless they botch 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: it like they did drafting Broderick Jones. 103 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: And we shouldn't forget that. 104 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: One reason they're in this pickle on the left side 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: of the line isn't just because Siamalu left via free agency, 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: which they were content to let him do, but because 107 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: they drafted Roderick Jones as the long term left tackle, 108 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: immediately moved him to right tackle, let a bum Dan 109 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: wore g junior start longer than he should have, only 110 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: got Jones to left tackle in his third year, when 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: he should have used the first two years to get 112 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: the feel of the position in the NFL at left tackle, 113 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: and they just didn't do it. 114 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: They mangled Broderick Jones. 115 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: And certainly he's responsible for his own failures, but they 116 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: never put him in a position to succeed. The Steeler 117 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: just screwed the pooch with almost every big decision they make. 118 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: We've talked about that, but how can you not. I 119 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: know you think I'd be a negative Nancy or Nellie 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: or whatever the freak, But how can you not? How 121 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: can you not at least be cynical when a teammate 122 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: won a playoff game in nine years and the drafted 123 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: picket and gave wat that contract, and gave Metcalf that contract, 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: and mangled Broderick Jones. 125 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: It goes on and on on and on. It's heaven 126 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: and hell. 127 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: But if they took a guard in the first round 128 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: like the Corsi, I would not be upset by the way. 129 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Another Penguin injury note, we already know. Malkin's day to 130 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: day and he missed last night. No word on whether 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: he'll be available tomorrow at Ottawa, but I rather doubt it. 132 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Mantha also misspractice today. He's day to day and 133 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: will not be available at Ottawa. So the injuries are 134 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: lining up, and. 135 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 136 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's inevitable with the way the schedule is packed. 137 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's inevitable with the amount of old guys they have, 138 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Mantha coming off major knee surgery last year. 139 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 140 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Things just are starting to add up in a bad 141 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: way for the Penguins. I would bring up Rutger McGroarty 142 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: and toss him in there because he's young, not the 143 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: best skater, but he plays with some bravado, some physicality. 144 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: I just think this team is out of gas because 145 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: it's too old and they could use a pick me up, 146 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: and Billy Coyvenan certainly ain't provided that since being called up. 147 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: He just I'm a big booster Covenans, but I think 148 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: he's looking more all the time like a for a player. 149 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: Let's go to John and Peters. John, you're all with Mark, Hey. 150 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: Mark, who do you think's gonna be a starting quarterback 151 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: for the Pittsburgh Steelers next year. 152 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: Is that like an intentionally cliched, baring question. 153 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it is. 154 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Okay, good, Thanks for the call. I think it'll be 155 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. I think Kenny's gonna come home. Eight three 156 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: three four one two wxdx to number to call. I'm 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: not gonna bite on stuff like that. I'm bored, but 158 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: not that bored up. Next, this will not bore anybody 159 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: because this is the moment we've all been waiting for. 160 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: In fact, I want you to call. Get a line 161 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: of calls in nobody will call. Nobody calls this show anymore. 162 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: I've scared everyone off with my superior intellect and my 163 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: ferocity over being totally bored by the Pittsburgh sports scene 164 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: for a number of years now, as I keep saying, 165 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: there's never been a better time to not listen. 166 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: But I know you love the Bucko rond. 167 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: Now get a bunch of calls lined up and tell 168 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: me how much you love the Bucko round up, and 169 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: I won't be surprised when nobody calls. But the number 170 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: is eight three to three four two wxdx. Without further ado. 171 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: On the other side of this commercial break, I make 172 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: my Pirate prediction, how many wins and why? Just around 173 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: the corner in the season premiere of the Bucko Round 174 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: Up one oh five nine. It's time now for the 175 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth premiere of the Buco Roundup. The Triumphant returned. 176 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: There's something Wagnerian about it. I should be playing Flight 177 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: of the Valkyries and not Greta van Fleet, although there 178 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: are similarities between the two. We got the Bucks at 179 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: the Mets tomorrow afternoon season openers Skiins against Peralta, And 180 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: here is my official Bucko season prediction. If you'd like 181 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: to make yours, wrap them around the brick and throw 182 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: them in the river, or you can call now eight 183 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: three to three four one TWXDX. But I'm predicting seventy 184 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: seven wins, not eighty seven because I'm not a mark, 185 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: but seventy seven wins. That would be an improvement of 186 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: six games from last season, which is not insignificant. I 187 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: know all y'all wanted to win more than that, Hey, 188 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: so do I. But Skeins can't pitch every game. A 189 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: lot of the optimism for the Pirates this year is 190 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: based on Skeens, but he can't pitch every game. By 191 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 1: way of example, in nineteen seventy two, Steve Carlton of 192 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: the Phillies won twenty seven games lad the National League 193 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: and everything era of one point nine to seven whip 194 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: of point nine ninety three won the Cy Young Award. Duh, 195 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: but the Phillies finished dead last in the division. The 196 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: Pirates are better this year, but they have a terrible 197 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: bottom third of the order, zero depth, more power, but 198 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: still maybe not enough. Chander Or and Ashcraft are unproven 199 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: at the major league level. There's no lefty starter. Their 200 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: offense can get stifled by lefty lefty. The outfield's going 201 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: to be terrible. Defensively, you look at the Pirates and 202 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: you could almost say the only definite nailed on strength 203 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: is Paul Skins. So yeah, seventy seven wins beat them box. Yeah, 204 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm a hater, right, But is 205 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: it still hating when it actually happens? And that's the 206 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: bucko around up for Wednesday. Let's all have a smoke. 207 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: It was good for me, I guess I talked earlier 208 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: in the show. This kid Weatherhold from Mars High School. 209 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: He was picked in the first round same year as 210 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: Griffin number seven overall in twenty twenty four. Griffin was 211 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: number nine overall in twenty twenty four, and the Cardinals 212 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: have him on their opening day roster and the Pirates 213 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: do not have Griffin on theirs. Now Weather holds twenty two, 214 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Griffin's only nineteen, But the point is they have the 215 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: same amount of professional experience. I don't know, we're going 216 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: to talk about that forever and to day, but I 217 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: still would have taken that chance with Griffin in the 218 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: big leagues. There's just no doubt on that. Let's go 219 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: to Dave and Unionton. Dave, you're on the Mark Madden Show. 220 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 5: Mark, I'm wondering who these people are who are going 221 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: to get to waste an entire evening in Pittsburgh watching 222 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 5: other teams pick players. Because I am a Steeler fan 223 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 5: and there's only one team, I give a hand about 224 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: who they pick, and I will not be wasting my 225 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 5: evening staring at my fene and waiting for them to 226 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 5: make that pick. 227 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean watching it on TV or falling 228 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: on your phone is one thing that's easy to do. 229 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: You can multitask, you know, watch that seventy show reruns 230 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: at the same time, or whatever, like I often do 231 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: the NHL Network two. Well no, well, yeah, we'll still 232 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. Then whether the Penguins still are 233 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: or make it at all, we do not know. But but, but, 234 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: but don't forget. Let's let's call the draft what it 235 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: really is in terms of watching it on site. It's 236 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: an all night drunk. It's a chance to wear Steeler 237 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: gear and yell and get plastered. And fans will be 238 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: coming in from out of time wearing their team's gear 239 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: and yelling and screaming and getting plastered. 240 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean that that's not too hard to understand. 241 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: Is it. 242 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 5: No, but there's thirty one teams that they shouldn't really 243 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 5: be a caring about. 244 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: And I heard you. 245 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: I heard it the first time. But I again, thank 246 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: you for the call. I think you're you're underestimating the 247 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: allure of the all night drunk. Not that you couldn't 248 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: do that on their own, and many do, but it's 249 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: almost like this is an affirmation of alcoholism, I mean, 250 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: nationally televised and all. I hope Tom went his hard 251 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: quick enough to analyze the draft. He could say, well, 252 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: I remember when I was dumb enough to draft Kenny 253 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Pickett well's good to Austin on Route sixty five. Austin, 254 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: you're on with double M, double M today, I said. 255 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 6: Good day. 256 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: So a few weeks ago, when the Penns beat Colorado 257 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: and Denver, I was not as high on them as 258 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: some people were. I was cautiously optimistic. 259 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: It was a good. 260 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: Showing, but I still kind of felt a little lands, 261 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: probably fifty to fifty about their chances. And now it 262 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: feels like a couple of weeks later, it's just slipping 263 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: through the fingers and you can feel it. But I 264 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: wanted to ask, I think this far. 265 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: Into the season, the Pens are who they are. They're 266 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: going to score a lot of goals, but they're going 267 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: to give up goals. But I feel like if you 268 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: call murrishav up, there's absolutely no worse than he can do, 269 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: so why. 270 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: Not do it. 271 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: It's not a matter if morrishof couldn't do any worse. 272 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: The potential was there for him to do a lot better. 273 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Everyone in that organization knows Morishoff is the best goal 274 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: there right now, the most talented, but just the best 275 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: goalie right now. They know that the plan is just 276 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: to keep him in Wilkes all year and for Wilkes 277 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: to have a good playoff run because they want the 278 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: younger guys to play together and win together. 279 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: And I get that. 280 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: That was what happened back when with you know, Murray, 281 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: rust Sherry, all those guys that were in Wilkes before 282 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: the Penguins Cup runs in in sixteen and seventeen. 283 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: I get it. 284 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: But the game changed when they put themselves in a 285 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: playoff spot as of right now, almost at the end 286 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: of March, and you got to try to make it. 287 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: And let me tell you, Bruv, if they don't make it, 288 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: the offseason is going to be an excrements storm. And 289 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: people don't see that, but I see it. If they 290 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, I guarantee Dupus won't keep Malkin. 291 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: I guarantee it. There would be no reason to. It'd 292 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: be right not to that Cou'd be right not to 293 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: if they do make it. But he ain't gonna if 294 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: they don't make it, for sure, and then Sid wants 295 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: him to stay, and Sid only has one year left 296 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: on his deal, and Pat person Sid's agent, is going 297 00:15:59,120 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: to speak up. 298 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: They need to make the playoffs. 299 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: If you don't want an excrement storm, then again, an 300 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: excrement storm might be just what this team needs to 301 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: totally rebuild and really get after it. So so I'm 302 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: just saying there's a lot on the line in terms 303 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: of making the playoffs or not, and morishoff is their 304 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: best bet to do. So if they want to thank 305 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: you for the call out. Next, going to talk to 306 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Bob walk about the Buckos one five to nine. Nobody 307 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: better to talk about Bucco baseball with and my guest 308 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: at this time he is former Pirates pitcher and current 309 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: media analyst, the Great Bob walk Walkey. Let's start with 310 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the obvious question. One, is Paul schemes this ceiling? Uh, 311 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: he got better from his first year to his second. 312 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: Can he get even better this year? 313 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 6: And how well? 314 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 7: I guess there's numbers, you know, as far as wins 315 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 7: could get better, all the other personal type numbers, there's 316 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 7: not much he can really do. Perhaps push the total 317 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 7: innings up a little bit, but that's kind of as 318 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 7: hands he's going to be allowed to do that. So 319 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 7: he's I mean, he's as awesome as you can get 320 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 7: right now. He's one of the very best pitchers that 321 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 7: in the game, no matter you know what league or 322 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 7: what team we talk about. 323 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 6: So can he Can he win more games? Yeah? 324 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 7: Sure, but his e r a has always been incredible. 325 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 7: He strikes out a ton of people. All of his 326 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 7: numbers I think will be just fine. I guess what 327 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 7: the thing that he will learn to do better is 328 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 7: is be able to dominate games even on days where 329 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 7: maybe his fastball is not as overpowering as we've seen 330 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 7: in the past. 331 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 6: As he gets older, he'll learn learn to do that. 332 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 7: And that's, you know what all the guys to become 333 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 7: Hall of Famers learn to do as they change their 334 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 7: game as they get older and their stuff evolves, and 335 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 7: and he'll have to do the same thing as the 336 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 7: years go by. 337 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: That's all right on the money, And obviously he'd like 338 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: to see him win more games, but that's not entirely 339 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: up to him. 340 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: In fact, maybe not even that much. 341 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: Because last year the Pirates won just seventeen of schemes 342 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: is thirty two starts? 343 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: How do they correct that? 344 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: Because I think that's the key to the improvement they're 345 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: looking for this year. 346 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: Is it just as simple as hitting better, Well, if. 347 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 6: You hit it's not as simple as hitting better. 348 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 7: They have to the end result has to be they 349 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 7: have to score more runs, right, that's what they have 350 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 7: to do. And you know there's other ways to do 351 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 7: that then, I mean, you're gonna hit more home runs, 352 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 7: you're gonna have a higher bantning average, you're going to 353 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 7: get more guys on base butt the you know, the 354 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 7: on base percentages up. There's all kinds of different numbers 355 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 7: that lead into the final number that really matters, and 356 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 7: that's how many runs are you scoring. So either you 357 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 7: need to move all those needles up a little bit, 358 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 7: or move one of those needles up a whole bunch. 359 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 7: You know, I there is nobody that has the easy answer, 360 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 7: but those things have to happen for our pitchers as 361 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 7: a whole. Of course, to win more games, team has 362 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 7: to win more games. Schemes and particular, I think needs 363 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 7: to be able to pitch a little deeper, allowed to 364 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 7: pitch a little deeper, because there's times where you know, 365 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 7: he goes six innings and now the game ends up 366 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 7: getting decided in the seventh, eighth, or ninth and he 367 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 7: gets nothing out of it. You know, that's one of 368 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 7: the big differences in the game of baseball as a whole, 369 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 7: as opposed to say, thirty years ago, starters got more decisions, 370 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 7: they were in games longer. 371 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 6: It was easier for guys to. 372 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 7: Wreck the elite pitchers to rack up you know, some 373 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 7: pretty big win totals, you know, eighteen twenty three, stuff 374 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 7: like that. You don't see very oftener, if at all, anymore, 375 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 7: because the guys just aren't long enough, aren't around long enough. 376 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 7: Even if they lead, they leave as the winning pitcher. 377 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 7: You know, now you've got nine more outs to get. 378 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 7: And if it's only a one or a two run 379 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 7: ball game, which it was most of the time last 380 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 7: year because we just didn't score much, it was tough, 381 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 7: you know, they up and now that there goes that 382 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 7: uh that w for skiing. 383 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 6: So I think it's a number of things. We need 384 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 6: to score more runs. 385 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 7: Uh, you know, he he probably needs to to maybe 386 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 7: add one more inning to his uh the average game count, 387 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 7: and that that would help him get I think, more 388 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 7: positive decisions. 389 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: How do you feel about chand Or and Ascraft given 390 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: their lack of big league experience, because the talent is 391 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: obviously there. 392 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's you know, one of the big 393 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 7: question marks that we we kind of gloss over a 394 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 7: little bit. You know, we accept the fact that this 395 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 7: is a very talented group of arms and and they 396 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 7: should go out and they should dominate. Well, yeah they should, 397 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 7: but they got to do it, you know. I mean, 398 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 7: you've been around sports in general long enough that you 399 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 7: know you've seen uh, you know, soccer teams and hockey 400 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 7: teams and basketball teams and that didn't play up to 401 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 7: their their title. Young guys you know that are like 402 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 7: all full of promise. You know, sometimes you have guys 403 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 7: that never play up to their their promise. Sometimes, you know, 404 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 7: guys take it a year or two to get there 405 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 7: and they don't get to that level when you really 406 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 7: expected them to. And so that's I think where we're 407 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 7: at with this group. If everybody would play to their 408 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 7: their abilities, their athletic abilities, yeah this could be an 409 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 7: extremely dominating pitching staff. But we'll wait and see. Are 410 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 7: we going to get anybody hurt? You know, that's another 411 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 7: thing that you have to be careful with. So you know, 412 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 7: things have to still go right for you, you know, to 413 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 7: get up there and win ninety some games. So we'll 414 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 7: we'll see how it goes. But talent level are and talent, 415 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 7: yeah it's there, but there's a lot of youth here 416 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 7: and you know that just doesn't translate all the time 417 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 7: in one season like you know Ashcraft for instance, He's 418 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 7: got a little bit of a a health problem coming 419 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 7: up through the minor leagues. Maybe that's all behind him, 420 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 7: maybe not. His stuff is amazing. I love this guy. 421 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 7: His curveball is crazy good. You know, I think he 422 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 7: could he could, you know, have numbers that are like schemes, 423 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 7: but we don't know, because you just haven't seen him pitch, 424 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 7: you know, for a long time up here yet. All 425 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 7: we are basing this on there's a few innings last 426 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 7: year and and some healthy times in the minor leagues 427 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 7: where he looked like a dominating pitcher there. But you 428 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 7: see the arm, you see the stuff, and you think, wow, 429 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 7: this guy could be awesome. And that's how I look 430 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 7: at him, you know, and everybody people look at Bubble 431 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 7: like that the same way. Here's a guy that throws 432 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 7: a hundred mall an hour if he puts the ball 433 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 7: where he wants to, if he gets consistent with his command, 434 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 7: sky's the limit. 435 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 6: Well, we got all these guys, but they haven't proved 436 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 6: it yet. So we've got a fair cross. 437 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: We're talking to Bob lock here on the x Walkee. 438 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: Is Triello capable of hitting better as an everyday player, 439 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: because I certainly know Dot his glove. 440 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's capable of it. Uh. 441 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 7: You know, we've we've seen him at times, Uh, you know, 442 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 7: hit pretty decently. He gets gets hot and and does well. 443 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 7: Uh and then and I think this is his make 444 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 7: or break situation he's got going right now. We need 445 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 7: somebody at least here early on, maybe for a month 446 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 7: or so, to go out there and play every day 447 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 7: at shortstop. 448 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 6: Uh, He's going to get this ability. 449 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 7: And at the end of the month, I think, you know, 450 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 7: he's going to have a chance to prove that he 451 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 7: is an everyday big league player. And you better find 452 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 7: a position for me, even if Connor is the shortstop 453 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 7: of the future. 454 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 6: So this is a this is a. 455 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 7: Very important month or two April and may for him 456 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 7: personally to show everybody, yes, I can be more than 457 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 7: just a utility player. 458 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: Is this the your O'Neal cruise finally lives up to 459 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: his talent in full? Because he's twenty seven, and I 460 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: think to make the jump the Pirates want to. 461 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: They really need that, don't you. 462 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, definitely, you know, I think I've answered this 463 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 7: question wrongly two or three times in the last couple 464 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 7: of years, like, oh, yeah, this will be the year. 465 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 7: I mean when I first saw this guy, you know, 466 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 7: this goes back a little bit to what we were 467 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 7: just talking about with pitching. When I first saw Cruise, 468 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 7: it was like, this could be a future Hall of Famer. 469 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 7: Here his athletic skills. If you're just a scout, I 470 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 7: mean the way he can run the cannony. As for 471 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 7: an arm, I mean he can with ease, just you know, 472 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 7: put balls into the river. It seems like all day 473 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 7: long if he wants, like during a batting practice session. 474 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 6: I mean, this guy looks like he might just be incredible. 475 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 7: And before last year, you know, the last half of 476 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 7: I guess the twenty four season when he really started 477 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 7: hitting left handed pitching very very well, I mean, as 478 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 7: good as anybody in the league. He was sitting lefties. 479 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 7: I thought at that moment, I go, now he's turned 480 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 7: the corner. Now he'll get consistent because it doesn't matter left, 481 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 7: you're righty whatever. I don't know what happened in that 482 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 7: off season between twenty four and twenty five, but in 483 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 7: twenty five he hit like a pitcher against left handers. 484 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 6: You can't have that. 485 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 7: That's you just can't have that anywhere in your lineup, 486 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 7: especially in the middle part of the lineup and as 487 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 7: a run producer, and that was really hurting us. 488 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 6: He can't do that this year. Eventually, you're going. 489 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 7: To have to say, Wow, I guess maybe he's just 490 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 7: a platoon player and that would be a shame. 491 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 6: So, yeah, he needs to step forward. And he knows 492 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 6: it too. 493 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 7: I mean, he's talked about this in spring training. This 494 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 7: is I got to make a move. I have to 495 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 7: be better. And he's spent you know, almost all the 496 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 7: offseason from what I understand, doing nothing but concentrating and 497 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 7: getting advice from all kinds of different hitters that he 498 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 7: knows about hitting left handed pitching. 499 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 6: What does he need to do to change this? So 500 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 6: we'll see. 501 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 7: But yeah, that's one of the huge keys to our 502 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 7: season is what kind of hitter. 503 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 6: Is he finally going to be? 504 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 7: If that's if you see what we saw towards the 505 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 7: end of the twenty twenty four season, we get that 506 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 7: all year this year. 507 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 6: That's that's gonna be huge for us. 508 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: And Ryan Reynolds obviously comes under that umbrella too. In 509 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: terms of a guy that has to have a big year. 510 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: But I feel confident Walkie he's going to bounce back. 511 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: I think he's less of a question mark. But he 512 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: never really got on tracked last year. 513 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 6: Did he no for the first time? 514 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 7: And he's always been real study And it's not like 515 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 7: he's like a superstar type guy. But like when the 516 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 7: season would would start, you go, Okay, he's gonna hit 517 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 7: two seventy you know, he's gonna hit twenty two home runs. 518 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 7: He's gonna have eighty five RBIs. You know that's that's 519 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 7: not you know, world beating numbers. But that's great to 520 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 7: be able to have somebody that plays every day that 521 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 7: you can pencil that in and say, Okay, this is 522 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 7: going to be your guy. He plays a decent outfield, 523 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 7: much better I think defensively than the quote unquote did 524 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 7: data numbers will show you. 525 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 6: I think he's eye test. He does a good job 526 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 6: in the outfield. 527 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 7: So I I mean, I'm a I'm a big Rentals fan, 528 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 7: and you know, I'm I'm hoping that we get that 529 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 7: two seventy batting average, the twenty three home runs, you know, 530 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 7: the eighty five to ninety RBI something in that area. 531 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 6: Uh, because that's the kind of player. 532 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 7: Like if you have a superstar guy like like say 533 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 7: Cruise maybe can turn into and then you have somebody 534 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 7: like Rentals sitting uh and they're you know, real close 535 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 7: to him with those kind of numbers. You have an 536 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 7: ozilla maybe on the other side of him with twenty 537 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 7: home runs, twenty two home runs. You know, now you're starting, 538 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 7: you know, you get you. 539 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 6: Know, a couple of other guys will hearn, you know, 540 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 6: chipping in. 541 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 7: You can start to see where this could be a 542 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 7: very good offense to support maybe even an outstanding you know, 543 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 7: pitching staff, which you know. 544 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 6: On paper it could be. 545 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 7: So there's a lot of things that you could be 546 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 7: positive about right now. I mean you can't just say 547 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 7: for sure, okay, we're yeah, we're going to the World Series. No, 548 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 7: but should we be much better than we were the 549 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 7: last few years? Yeah, I would be shocked if we aren't. 550 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 7: But there's some good things that have to be happening, 551 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 7: and the Rental situation is one. I mean, he needs 552 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 7: to get back the way he was and basically every 553 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 7: year we've had him except last year. 554 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: What's your take on the parts defensively, because I love 555 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: Triola with short I like Henry Davis behind the plate. 556 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: I wish you'd hit better. 557 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: Uh, but some concessions were made to get more bats 558 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: in the lineup. So I wonder about certain spots in 559 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: regards to defense. 560 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 7: Ye, so do I I'm with you there. You uh 561 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 7: you named our two really good defensive players. Uh, and 562 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 7: I think, uh, you know other players. Heck, you said it. 563 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 7: You got to make compromises, Yeah, I mean you can't. 564 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 7: You can't just sit here and think, well, you know, 565 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 7: this guy's a gold glover, we're got to play him here. 566 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 7: This guy's going well, you know, we need some runs too, 567 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 7: and then you but you can't. 568 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 6: Just like you know, go go higher. D h is 569 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 6: either you know that can hit. You can't do that. 570 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 7: So you got to figure out. You got to make 571 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 7: some compromises. 572 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 6: Uh. 573 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 7: You know, you have to as the season goes along, 574 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 7: you know, maybe make some decision on some guys like now, 575 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 7: this this guy's not really going to be a first basement. 576 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 7: I mean, we got to put him in the outfield 577 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 7: or you know, things like that. 578 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 6: That that's what you have to get get figured out. 579 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 7: And and how many compromises are you going to make 580 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 7: you know, behind the plate, that's one of the that's 581 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 7: a defensive position where you really want somebody to solid 582 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 7: back there. But last year we got like zero offense 583 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 7: pretty much out of those positions. You know, both those players, 584 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 7: both Barton Davis, they have to they have to click 585 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 7: it up this year. 586 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 6: We can't have it back to back. 587 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 7: Seasons where you're essentially just getting nothing out of that position. 588 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 6: And uh, you know, I. 589 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 7: Think Davis really looks like he's he's changed his approach 590 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 7: a little bit. Toward the end of spring training. You 591 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 7: could see it just a different guy to where when 592 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 7: he went to right field, it wasn't like he's just 593 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 7: flaring the ball over there off the end of the bat. 594 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 7: He actually drove some balls hard the other way. That's 595 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 7: what we've been waiting for or somebody to see it 596 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 7: an approach like that. So, you know, the only hard 597 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 7: balls he ever hit before that, or either ten foot 598 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 7: fair or ten foot foul, everything was right down the 599 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 7: left field line. If you hit it hard, you can't 600 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 7: make a living hitting in the major leagues if the 601 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 7: only time you hit a hard you can hit a 602 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 7: ball hard is pull it down the line. And I 603 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 7: think he's maybe starting to turn that corner. And with 604 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 7: the way he plays defense back there, you know, if 605 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 7: you could get two fifty out of him and maybe 606 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 7: double figures and home runs, that's a huge plus. 607 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 608 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: I think he's the wild card because he got drafted 609 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: one to one, not all that long ago, and that 610 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: was for his bat walk. What one thing needs to 611 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: happen to get this team not over the top and 612 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: being nailed on playoff team, because that's asking a lot, 613 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: But I think they can contend. I think they can, 614 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, hang in there and maybe squeak it out 615 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: at the end. What one thing has to happen for 616 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: you to be convinced that's possible. 617 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 6: Up, It's got to be way more than one one thing. 618 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: But what's at the top of the list. 619 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 7: Let me sell you, like, if there's one thing that 620 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 7: might be you know, getting a little overlooked and nobody 621 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 7: is talking about and this is kind of a little 622 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 7: out of everybody's control. I don't know what you do 623 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 7: about this, but you know, I don't really think we 624 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 7: can have injuries in our starting to our starting pitchers. 625 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 7: We had to give up some pretty good starting starting 626 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 7: pitching guys that are definitely well we gave up two 627 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 7: really good Big league starting pitchers to try to improve 628 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 7: our offense, which that's one of those compromises that you 629 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 7: you had to do. But anytime you give up pitching, 630 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 7: you are scared to death. That's going to bite you 631 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 7: in the rear end. You never have enough pitching. And 632 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 7: we gave up a couple that and I cringed when 633 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 7: we did it, but I understood that it was something 634 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 7: that we had to do. So one of the key 635 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 7: things now is please just keep the starting pitchers we have, 636 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 7: keep them healthy. And if we get a couple of 637 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 7: big injuries, yeah, I don't know if we have the 638 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 7: depth to be able to pull through, because I think 639 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 7: we're kind of living in an edge in a lot 640 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 7: of different positions. You know, we get just enough offense, 641 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 7: just enough defense, and we're like, we got a lot 642 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 7: of chips pushed in to the middle of the pot 643 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 7: right now because of our young pitchers. Oh, we better 644 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 7: not get anybody hurt. Stay healthy. 645 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: Walkie is always great expertise, great work doing analysis with 646 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: radio and TV, and I hope we talk again soon. 647 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 6: Anytime, Mark, you take care, I have good rest of day. 648 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: That's the great ball. Walk always a pleasure to buco 649 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: baseball with him. We got Paul's ice at the top 650 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: of the hour at one O five to nine. 651 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 6: True. 652 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: A Penguins update come correction, Manta and Malkin did not 653 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: practice today. Malcat is not making the trip to Ottawa 654 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: for tomorrow's game. Manta is, but is not a short 655 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: thing to say. Dan Muse, the coach, characterized both as 656 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: day to day. Uh, let's listen to Dan mus talk. 657 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: This is him on losing that goalie interference challenge last night, 658 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: which took Justin Brazo's goal off the board. 659 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 6: We got to focus on what we can control. 660 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 8: I don't know. 661 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 9: I mean, did it impact the game? Yeah, I mean 662 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 9: we could have. I felt like it doesn't matter what 663 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 9: I felt. At the end of the day, I respond. 664 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 9: I feel like, you know, that goal goes in and 665 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 9: we get a power play because they challenge. It could 666 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 9: be very different. I felt differently than the league on 667 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 9: that one. But thattele goals in. We gotta, you know, 668 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 9: we got to make sure that we respond to the 669 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 9: you know, the situation at hand. 670 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: Like I mentioned earlier, the Penguins are zero for eight 671 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: on coaches chat lenges this year, and the opposition is 672 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: four for five, which you know, do the mat That 673 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: makes the Penguins one for thirteen on coaches Challenge. Now, 674 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: by the letter of the rule, that was goaltender interference 675 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: last night, but I've seen goals stand when the same 676 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: thing happened against the Penguins several times. So either nobody 677 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: really knows what the rule is or it's being applied 678 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: selectively because it's the same people making the decisions on 679 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: every call in Toronto. Like I said, zero for eight 680 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: on challenges opposition four for five. That makes one for 681 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: thirteen total for the Penguins on challenges this season, And 682 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, that smells fishy, but it's no 683 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: surprise because the NHL is a crap league run by 684 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: idiots and even worse Canadians with agendas. Here's Greg Rosenthal 685 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers and his limitations that we certainly saw 686 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: last season. 687 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 2: He wasn't good pressure. I disagree. If he was a press, 688 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: sure the play was over. 689 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 8: His success rate in general was down near the bottom 690 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 8: of the league. Like, he hits a couple of big plays, 691 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 8: and he was good in high leverage moments, and he 692 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 8: prevents mistakes, including sacks and interceptions. 693 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: That's all very important. 694 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 8: So that's why he is not where he is statistically 695 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 8: like in terms of success rate, which is with Joe 696 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 8: Flacco and Mason Rudolph and some and the worst quarterbacks 697 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 8: in the league. 698 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: But he's not good. 699 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: Everything rosehen self said is one hundred percent true. And 700 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: Rogers this coming season, assuming he plays, will be a 701 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: year older and not any more willing to. 702 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: Get hit to make a play. 703 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: And that's the guy the Steelers are willing to wait 704 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: for seemingly indefinitely. They're not waiting for Josh Allen. They're 705 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: waiting for Grandpa game manager. Up next, gonna talk to 706 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: Paul Zeiss of the Post because at this segment brought to. 707 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: Us by the Steelers Pro Shop. 708 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: Get it direct from the team at shop dot Steelers 709 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: dot com. 710 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 2: I'm Markman one oh five nine