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Speaker 1: For appliances.

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Speaker 2: This is WDVEE Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Do I really want to.

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Speaker 3: Spend forty g's a year to go out of state?

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Speaker 3: To go because I convinced two of my best friends

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Speaker 3: me coming out of college, I ended up with I

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Speaker 3: believe sixteen thousand total total that compounded because I couldn't

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Speaker 3: pay my student loans until I got the job at DVE.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was just collectors calling my house all

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Speaker 3: the time, and I'd be like.

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Speaker 1: Good luck. They are relentless, blood from a stone. Oh.

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Speaker 3: I left them messages all the time. Hehy, the money

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Speaker 3: is in the park under a tree. Go get it, dude.

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Speaker 4: Sally May used to hit up everybody of my family,

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Speaker 4: like my employer, like they were calling everybody.

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Speaker 1: Like Clodro trying to get to twenty five guys.

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Speaker 4: I'm a dead beat, Like you took a gamble on

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Speaker 4: Bill Crawford, Like why you hit me that's stop bothering my.

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Speaker 1: Cousins, Brandy Bellman and the DV Morning Show.

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Speaker 3: Bille Crawford student loan.

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Speaker 1: ScOTF Law.

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Speaker 5: I'm almost paid off that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he just paid him off, and that's why he

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Speaker 3: has decided to jump ship.

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Speaker 1: He finally paid off his student loans.

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Speaker 5: No, I haven't. Actually I still.

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Speaker 1: Do you really go insane?

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Speaker 4: This is this is my generation is going to be

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Speaker 4: are still paying off their student line.

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I told Kennedy, like, you've helped me pay off mine

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Speaker 4: and then you're free to go to college wherever you want.

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Speaker 4: But we got to take care of first things first,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we hit we broke the news yesterday and tomorrow's

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Speaker 3: gonna end up being Bill's last day here as part

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Speaker 3: of the DV Morning Show and he is off to

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Speaker 3: dream Chase. As he said, all of you know, the

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Speaker 3: love that you must have felt yesterday had to feel good.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, Yeah, it was a lot.

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Speaker 4: Thank you to every single person that that messaged me,

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Speaker 4: The dms were lit up, Like I just I was

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Speaker 4: have been surprised, because you know this station. I always

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Speaker 4: tell people it's it's the equivalent of growing up here

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Speaker 4: and uh and playing for the Steelers. This listenership, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's it's the best. There's there's nothing like it. And

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Speaker 4: just you know, got on this morning show in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 4: and he said, dude, there is nothing like the relationship

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Speaker 4: It's a closer relationship than anything else, stand up anything.

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Speaker 4: They know you more intimately than anyone else in your life.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I kind of I broke up yesterday

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Speaker 4: when I was saying, like, you know, people say like,

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Speaker 5: Know you like you do. We share everything about our lives.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're talking for twenty hours a week here

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I got that recently at an event that I was

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Speaker 1: I'm like you do.

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Speaker 3: I mean we wouldn't be doing our job if you

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Speaker 1: But you know, not everybody has the ability to do

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Speaker 3: This is a special place where they understand it really

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Speaker 3: And we work for this behemoth corporation which you were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but ultimately everybody sees that immediately, because that's the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, I pick those people's brains because

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Speaker 1: They do.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I was gonna say, is they know

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Speaker 3: Up with like Marcy and Herschel and Sean McDowell and

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Speaker 1: So it's a it is a special.

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Speaker 3: Unique bond that the morning show in particular has with

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Speaker 3: the listeners. And I'm glad you felt all that love yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no I I I the love is shared.

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Speaker 4: I feel the same exact way about all of the

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Speaker 5: And it made me laugh yesterday because it's all like.

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Speaker 4: Good luck, we love you, think we'll miss you every

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Speaker 4: good luck, good luck, good luck, and then like you know,

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Speaker 4: and I'm just like all right, Inspector jag Off, like,

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Speaker 1: Someone in the news media like hit me up to like,

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Speaker 3: And I was off the record, I'm like, oh man,

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Speaker 3: he sexually harassed Mike pursuit he was taking it dump

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be forgiven if that drove you at the door.

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Speaker 1: Randy's too obsessed with you, Fitzgerald. He won't stop talking

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Speaker 3: People keep sending me stuff like it's just not stopping

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Speaker 4: Well, no, it's it's it's been an honor, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's been a privilege. And I hope that whoever is

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Speaker 4: of the listeners like they embraced me, like it is. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: it's the best thing that ever happened to me, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and I have two kids, so don't tell them,

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Speaker 4: and I hope they're not listening right now.

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Speaker 6: No way.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we got seven more hours to punch

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Speaker 3: the clock. Here, Let's let Abby roll with the news.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Gorman will talk about the Paul Skeens news at

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Speaker 3: seven forty five. Big Cattle join us eight forty five,

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Speaker 3: and Billy Gardell will give us a special Thursday call.

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Speaker 3: Today around nine thirty plus, we'll have Randy Miller, the

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Speaker 3: author of that story about Paul Skeen's wanting traded to

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Speaker 3: the Yankees. He will join us here on the DV

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Speaker 3: Morning Show right around nine to twenty five or so. Abby,

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 2: News?

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Speaker 7: This hour is brought to you by Keystone Basement Systems

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Speaker 7: Wet Basement, Keystone Basementsystems dot Com. Sunshine Today with a

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Speaker 7: few clouds and high Round fifty three.

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Speaker 1: No Costco warehouse.

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Speaker 7: Retailer in Pennsylvania currently sells alcohol, but that soon could change.

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Speaker 7: The Cranberry Costco is attempting to obtain the liquor license

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Speaker 7: formally held by the former Hula Hans in the township.

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Speaker 7: According to the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board online documents, the

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Speaker 7: license is similar to the ones changed such as Giant

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Speaker 7: Eagle and sheets have acquired the licenses mandate cafe seating

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Speaker 7: and separate cash registers to sell wine and beer. The

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Speaker 7: attempted licen sin transfer could be seen as an attempt

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Speaker 7: for Costco to get ahead of new competition that's coming

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Speaker 7: to Cranberry. Wegman's is developing a new store in Cranberry

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Speaker 7: on twelve acres of land on Cool Springs Drive, next

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Speaker 7: to the upmc use sports complex. Many of its stores

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Speaker 7: already sell alcohol. Additionally, Meyer is planning to build a

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Speaker 7: and Meer warehouses typically sell beer and wine as well.

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Speaker 1: It's more than Crampedberry, am I right?

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Speaker 2: My right?

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Speaker 3: They got way too much stuff, dude, Yeah, there's too

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Speaker 3: much stuff relative to how many people are out there now.

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Speaker 1: Costco does not sell booze now.

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Speaker 3: No, but if would they sell it at a low

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Speaker 3: to get a Dolly over here for this five gallon

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Speaker 7: The last thing I bought it Costco was a case

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Speaker 1: Zero point zero Heineken.

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Speaker 7: I was like kind of like, all right, they're great,

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Speaker 7: but they had cases of that, and I'm like, this

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Speaker 7: that always bums me out about Costco is you find

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Speaker 7: something once you are pumped that it's at Costco, and

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Speaker 7: then you will never see it again.

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Speaker 1: Gotta be honest, I don't go to Costco.

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Speaker 5: Wait, why will you never see it again?

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Speaker 7: I think that's kind of the model of Costco. I'm

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Speaker 7: speaking out of school here a bit, but I think

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Speaker 7: they get I think they get discounts with vendors that

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Speaker 7: you get the discount for a short amount of time,

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Speaker 7: and then that deal expires, and then new products come in.

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Speaker 7: So at one point I was obsessed with cauliflower rice

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Speaker 7: and a very specific brand.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like Costco, me and you man, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be together forever. And then now I can't get that anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Dam It's been a minute since I've been the Costco.

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Speaker 3: But like Sam's Club, Costco kind of the same thing, right.

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Speaker 3: The difference is Costco has dollar hot dogs? Is that

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Speaker 3: is that what it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, mean the Costco guys, they got those double chunk

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Speaker 4: I forgot about that.

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Speaker 3: Those dudes they're over now, right, I mean, we're nobody's

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Speaker 1: They Oh god, that guy was on that. The Whistler's

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Speaker 1: on the Epstein list.

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Speaker 4: Yeah wait as a as on what side of the list?

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Speaker 5: The wrong side of the list.

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Speaker 1: He was the dog that hadn't chunked yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh yeah, those guys kind of went away. That

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Speaker 3: There's nothing worse than when you do it when someone's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I I learned how to not leave,

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Speaker 3: I know that I do weird little things like that,

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Speaker 3: Now, what about like just like superstitious stuff stepping on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like in a beautiful mind when there's like

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you have like sit in the discomfort of knowing

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Speaker 1: I mean like they might not be screw it, right,

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Speaker 1: Maybe I did that. Whose fault is that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying I just I still do.

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Speaker 4: I never walk in between two cars that are closely

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Speaker 5: I don't know why, because I'm like, I can't get

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Speaker 4: So to this day, even if it's a two cars

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Speaker 1: I definitely have those, And you see it in sports

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Speaker 3: Baseball pictures never step on the line right is they're

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Speaker 3: To win a championship here in Pittsburgh. Is it Bob

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Speaker 5: No, it is not, it's not. No, it is spoiler alert.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I want to win with this just this

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Speaker 5: That's one dollar hot dogs. Yes, we're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: It's the costco of baseball owners. So we'll talk to

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Speaker 8: which is perhaps why I think this is a hoodie.

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Speaker 1: And you say, yeah, it's a fleece. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: well when you you said it's not a it's just

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Speaker 1: not a hoodie.

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 1: It has a hood it does not all things that

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Speaker 1: have a hood or hoodie.

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Speaker 5: I mean, well, it's not like that is a hot

452
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Speaker 5: dogg as Hamwarts. Well, people change the station.

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Speaker 1: The plan have a bunch of hoodies.

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Speaker 8: I like, yeah, old, No, the whole dress thing makes

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Speaker 8: it a different all right.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's not go down this avenue as your sports

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Speaker 3: right now, and boy, there's plenty to talk about.

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Speaker 8: Mike Sports I brought to you by Bridgeville Appliance. Paul

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Speaker 8: Skean's got himself a Rookie of the Year award last year.

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Speaker 8: Now he's been named the unanimous winner of the National

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Speaker 8: League Cy Young Award. But what Skiings really wants is

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Speaker 8: to win.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, that's ah, that's what we need to do.

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Speaker 10: That's that that needs to be the focus every day

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Speaker 10: in the locker room. I think that you know, over

466
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Speaker 10: the past two years. It's funny because you show up

467
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Speaker 10: at the beginning of spring training and everybody's motivated and

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Speaker 10: happy and hopeful. That's the feeling that that I've had

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Speaker 10: over the past couple of years. And then as the

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Speaker 10: season gets on, the newness wears off, and you know,

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Speaker 10: you get into the grind of June, July, August, and

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Speaker 10: you know, your your why changes, your the reason that

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Speaker 10: you show up to the ballpark changes. What you're trying

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Speaker 10: to accomplish every day changes. The focus needs to be.

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Speaker 10: You know, winning a World Series in Pittsburgh. We haven't

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Speaker 10: done it since nineteen seventy nine. That's you know, forty

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Speaker 10: six years.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 10: It's not the longest drought in Major League Baseball. But uh,

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Speaker 10: that's something that you know, we're working to change from

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Speaker 10: within the clubhouse. I know the organizations doing the same thing.

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Speaker 10: So we that's that's why I'm you know, throwing and

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Speaker 10: lifting and doing all that right now. That's that's the

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Speaker 10: goal I have. I have the cy young Now, Uh

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Speaker 10: what else do I have to accomplish in this game?

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Speaker 10: You know, World Series championship. So we just got to

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Speaker 10: get everybody pushing in the same direction. I think it's

488
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Speaker 10: going to be better next year, but you know, talk

489
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Speaker 10: is cheap. We have to show up and do it.

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Speaker 10: So I have confidence that we're going to and that

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Speaker 10: we're going to to get better. But there's a there's

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Speaker 10: a long way to go, and uh, I'm excited for

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Speaker 10: the challenge.

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Speaker 8: Now you just heard him say, I have confidence we're

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Speaker 8: going to do So that's the only contradiction of the

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Speaker 8: Randy Miller story, which was posted yesterday on New Jersey

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Speaker 8: dot Com quoting an anonymous teammate of Paul Skeins that

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Speaker 8: says he is quote hoping for a trade, quote trust me,

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Speaker 8: he wants to play for the Yankees. I've heard him

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Speaker 8: say it multiple times. That was the emphasis of the

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Speaker 8: Randy Miller story. Doesn't want to wait because he doesn't

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Speaker 8: have any confidence that the Pirates are going to do

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Speaker 8: enough to be competitive.

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Speaker 3: Nobody is we talked about last hour, has trouble believing

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Speaker 3: that Paul Skeenes wants to go to the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: And as great as he is and as good of

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Speaker 4: a teammate as he is, and as hard as he's working,

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Speaker 4: that change isn't coming inside the clubhouse.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, that's why I think both things are true.

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Speaker 3: I think he wants out because there he doesn't believe

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Speaker 3: they will make the changes necessary, that they'll invest in

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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 1: It costs money to win in baseball. This just in

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Speaker 1: and a lotto money.

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Speaker 3: If he had his brothers, he would love to do

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Speaker 3: it here. I do believe that, but he knows it's

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Speaker 3: not going to happen. And he said in that same

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Speaker 3: interview that his goal is multiple world championships.

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Speaker 1: Multiple.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: He was speaking on a Zoom call last night after

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Speaker 8: he was named the Cy Young winner, and one of

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Speaker 8: the questions I forget who asked it, but they said,

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Speaker 8: would you trade to Cy Young? For a World Series,

525
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Speaker 8: and his response was basically, well, can't we do both?

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Speaker 8: The Dodgers just won the World Series. They have Otani

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Speaker 8: who's an MVP candidate. They have Yamamoto who's a cy

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Speaker 8: Young candidate. They have about twelve other players who are

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Speaker 8: really really good. Like individual success multiplied creates team success. Right,

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Speaker 8: you know one picture went into Cy Young, you still think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: So we'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 5: Randy also talked to.

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Speaker 8: Ben Cherrington parts GM in Las Vegas as part of

534
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Speaker 8: that story of Cherrington telling Randy Miller that teams are

535
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Speaker 8: calling asking about schemes availability. Quote I suspect that won't end,

536
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Speaker 8: but the answer has been consistent. He's going to be

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Speaker 8: a pirate in twenty twenty six. And Charrington also said, quote,

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Speaker 8: it's really simple because what matters most to Skemes is

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Speaker 8: what matters to us, win more games. That's the focus,

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Speaker 8: because that's what is going to be most important to him.

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Speaker 8: What probably gives us the best chance to keep him

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Speaker 8: in Pittsburgh for longer is winning games, and that's what

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Speaker 8: we need to do anyway.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a portion of the fan base that

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Speaker 4: wants to trade schemes now, anyways, because of the hall

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Speaker 4: that they could get in return.

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Speaker 8: Closer it gets the free agency, the less you get yep,

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Speaker 8: or in this case, arbitration. I know, everybody knows the

549
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Speaker 8: pirates aren't gonna pay what he's gonna get in arbitration.

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Speaker 5: Maybe one year, maybe.

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Speaker 3: There's a faction of pirate fans that just straight as

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Speaker 3: Stockholm syndrome and they're like, trade them out, you.

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Speaker 8: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: They're like, you're gonna beat the casino.

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Speaker 3: They just want the best of what's available here. They

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Speaker 3: they stopped craving the championship, you know, or what's necessary.

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Speaker 1: From the ownership to get that championship. They're like, maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe we can sneak out of the jail through that

559
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Speaker 1: tiny mousehole. Is essentially what they're hoping for. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and we've all been conditioned to this.

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Speaker 8: You get numbto it after so many years, and great

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Speaker 8: players come through and then they then they're gone. Garrett

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Speaker 8: Cole was one of these guys, right, Yeah. I think

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Speaker 8: Skeens is a level above Cole. And that's nothing against Cole.

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Speaker 8: I just Skeens is they.

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Speaker 3: Throw that term generational around National Championship rookie of the year,

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Speaker 3: Cy Young, he's a bang bang bang.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen this guy before.

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Speaker 5: Nope.

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Speaker 8: And if you're Bob Nutting, spend for two years and

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Speaker 8: try to win and then tear it down again and

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Speaker 8: stink try it once. You know what I mean. You

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Speaker 8: have done that Florida. They go up and they go down.

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Speaker 8: Try to rebuild it. Then when those guys win for

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Speaker 8: you and get expensive, you get rid of all and

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Speaker 8: you start over.

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Speaker 5: This is where they are.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's gonna be brutal to see Skeens, Cole and

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Speaker 4: Bednar on the Yankees.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Gorman from The Treble talk about the New York

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Speaker 3: Pirates coming up around seven forty five.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers speaking yesterday, UH, talked.

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Speaker 8: About a lot of things.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 8: The newsworthy revelation from yesterday was DK Metcalf telling me

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Speaker 8: that he flattened his route on that deep ball in

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Speaker 8: the first quarter. That's one of the reasons why things

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Speaker 8: went as poorly as they did in uh Los Angeles Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You kept saying, I wonder if he.

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Speaker 8: I think I was questioning it, like did he really

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Speaker 8: just miss or was it.

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Speaker 1: And everyone else just pegged it on? Rogers?

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Speaker 8: Is it on the other end did the receiver according

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Speaker 8: to rumors a contributing UH factor and Metcalf said he

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Speaker 8: flattened his route and should have kept going and that

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Speaker 8: might have been six.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 8: Steele is also looking for someone this just then to

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Speaker 8: take some of the coverage pressure off of DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 1: He's getting doubled relentlessly.

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Speaker 6: UH.

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Speaker 8: That process of late includes trying to determine if Marquez, Valdi,

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Speaker 8: Scantling Ken or cannot be that guy. Uh.

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Speaker 9: That's a good question for Arthur. You know, I think

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Speaker 9: that he's a smart guy. He's spent a lot of

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Speaker 9: time studying. But you know, we got to getting more

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Speaker 9: reps with the first team to see where he's at.

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Speaker 5: And that question will be asked of Arthur today.

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Speaker 3: from four to six and you're twenty four cent. Lots

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Speaker 3: of talk about with Paul Skiens and Kevin You know

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Speaker 3: the report yesterday after Skeens wins the Cy Young Award

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Speaker 3: has people talking quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Bill Crawford, of course, wants to go to the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: We all we all know that now.

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Speaker 3: But let's first talk about Paul Skeens and his trajectory

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Speaker 3: from college to now. Is there a comparison in terms

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Speaker 3: of major League Baseball pitching that we've seen a guy

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Speaker 3: burst on the scene like this and have as much

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Speaker 3: success from the time he was a senior in college

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Speaker 3: to his second year in major leagues.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, no, there's nobody that comes off the top of

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Speaker 1: my head.

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Speaker 6: You know, Mark Pryor is the guy that is the

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00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 6: comp that I would use in terms of the size

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Speaker 6: and the power and the dominance. But Schemes as far

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Speaker 6: out performed what prior did. When when he you know,

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Speaker 6: when he was in college and in the majors.

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Speaker 1: And prior is is he a pitching coach for the

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Speaker 1: Cubs now?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's. I think it's the Dodgers. I

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00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 6: couldn't mistaken. Yeah, But I mean there's in terms of

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Speaker 6: the guy that came out of college and had that

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Speaker 6: type of size and power and was very dominant very

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Speaker 6: early in his career, but not like this. I mean,

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Speaker 6: this is we're talking about Schemes doing something that hasn't

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Speaker 6: been done since Dwight Gooden in terms of winning Rookie

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Speaker 6: of the Year one year and Cy Young the next.

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Speaker 6: But Gooden did that at age of nineteen twenty, I believe. So,

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Speaker 6: you know, he didn't go to college, and he's a

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Speaker 6: guy who flamed out early, you know, and had a

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Speaker 6: long career, but was dominant very early in his career.

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Speaker 6: I have a filming Schemes because of his discipline, because

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Speaker 6: of the way he goes about his business, not only

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Speaker 6: on the mental side of it, the physical side of it,

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Speaker 6: but also the pitch development side of it. I mean,

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Speaker 6: this is a guy who's only going to get better.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a you can make a comparison that

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Speaker 6: in terms of dominance early in his career, Clayton Kershaw

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Speaker 6: would be a comparison as a guy who's dominant at

665
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Speaker 6: a very young age. But what we're seeing, you know,

666
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 6: Mike talked about this earlier, the generational talent. We're seeing

667
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 6: something special here, and I think that's what adds to

668
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: the frustration for Pirates fans and for even someone like

669
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 6: Schemes who knows that he's baseball's best bargain, one of

670
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 6: the most productive pitchers in the game, and I think

671
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 6: only Trek Scoubel and maybe Zach Wheeler in the same conversation,

672
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 6: and the Pirates are paying him less than a million

673
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 6: dollars a season right now, and that they haven't supplemented

674
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 6: the savings and salary, and not in terms of scheme salary,

675
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 6: but just in terms of that production. You'd have to

676
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 6: be paying forty million dollars to get a picture to

677
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 6: produce the way Schemes has that they haven't channeled that

678
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 6: into the rest of the major league payroll has been

679
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 6: highly disappointing, not only to the fan base, but to

680
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 6: really everyone in baseball. You know that this is this

681
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 6: is something that raises eyebrows around those sports that the

682
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 6: Pirates haven't gone all in while they have schemes under

683
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 6: club control.

684
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: keV.

685
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Speaker 8: Just for the sake of argument, let's assume Ben Sherington

686
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 8: wakes up tomorrow and says, you know what, I'm gonna

687
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 8: trade him.

688
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: What do you get back?

689
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Speaker 6: Yeah, because of the years of control, which is a

690
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 6: really big thing. You know, you're not talking about a

691
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 6: guy who's on an expiring contractor has you know, two

692
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 6: years left an arbitration. But use maybe the one Sodo

693
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 6: trade as a comparison. And the Nationals tried to sign him.

694
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 6: I think they offered him a four hundred million dollar deal,

695
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 6: and he ended up in free agency signing for more

696
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 6: than seven hundred million dollars. But the Nationals got in return,

697
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 6: Mackenzie Gore's starting pitcher. They got James Wood, who's a

698
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 6: you know, a burgeoning star in the outfield.

699
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 5: They've got cj.

700
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Speaker 1: Abrams, they're starting shortstop, and.

701
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 6: There's a I think there's another one Robert Hassel, maybe

702
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 6: the outfield, or they got a haul in return, and

703
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 6: the Pirates could probably do something like that and it

704
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 6: probably would be beneficial for your long term future, but

705
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 6: it might in the short term lose your fan base

706
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 6: to feel like, Okay, we just went through you know,

707
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 6: what is it, seven consecutive losing seasons or at least

708
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 6: six that you and then you're going to start over

709
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 6: again and trade the one superstar the Pirates have, you know,

710
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 6: a guy, one of the guys who's one of the

711
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 6: very few best in the game, the elite players. So yeah,

712
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 6: I think it's going to happen eventually. But I also

713
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 6: think that, you know, as that report came out, you

714
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 6: know that the I think what Charrington said that the

715
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 6: the the better the Pirates do, the more they win,

716
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 6: the better chance they have of keeping him, rather than

717
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 6: feeling the need to, you know, the being forced to

718
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 6: trade him for the sake of the future of the franchise. Like,

719
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 6: you know, I'd like to see the Pirates just keep

720
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 6: their players as a philosophy, as a organizational philosophy, keep

721
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 6: their players until the final year of their contract, and

722
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 6: if you're contending, you keep them and let them hit

723
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 6: free agency and take the draft pick compensation, and if

724
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 6: you're not contending, you trade them, you know, in the

725
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 6: final year of their contract and just do that. As

726
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 6: an organizational thing, is that, Hey, we're going to maximize

727
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 6: the time we have our best players, knowing that we

728
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 6: can't compete on the free agent market. But that doesn't

729
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 6: seem to be there the way they're doing things either.

730
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: Do you think keV that Paul Schime's moving to New

731
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: York is better for baseball? Do you think that this

732
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 4: show Hey move the last couple of years is better

733
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: for baseball to get these superstars out of these Siberia

734
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: type markets of the league and have them on the

735
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 4: biggest stage.

736
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Speaker 6: I don't know if it's great, you know, good for

737
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 6: the greater game in terms of the sport itself, the

738
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 6: health of it, but in terms of you know, watching

739
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 6: those playoffs, and I watched a lot of the baseball playoffs.

740
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 6: You want to see the best players on the biggest stage.

741
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 6: You want to see show Hey have historical performances, and

742
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: I think Schemes is capable of doing something like that.

743
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 6: I mean Scoogle, I think had back to back games

744
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 6: where he had thirteen and fourteen strakeouts in the playoffs,

745
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 6: which is absolutely amazing for a pitcher to do that,

746
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 6: and for you know, ya Amoto to pitch back to

747
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 6: back Knights in Games six and seven in the World Series.

748
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 6: There's another, say, young finalist. I think we're being deprived

749
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 6: of watching Paul schemes on that stage because he's playing

750
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 6: for the Pirates.

751
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: But I also think it's for the health of the game.

752
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 6: You want to see a player like Paul Skins when

753
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 6: he's the number one overall draft pick when you hit

754
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 6: the lottery, and not just figuratively, the Pirates actually won

755
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 6: the first draft lottery and we're able to select schemes.

756
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 6: You want to see schemes elevate that team to the playoffs.

757
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 6: I mean, I think that's what's good for the health

758
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 6: of the game. You know, you can make the comparison,

759
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 6: and I think it's not just apples oranges. You know,

760
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 6: you're I think you're talking the vegetables. But you know,

761
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 6: you see what Sidney Crosby did for the Penguins, uh

762
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 6: and elevating them at a very young age to to

763
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 6: the Stanley Cup Final and then a Stanley Cup Championship,

764
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 6: And you know, I think for the sake of Pirates

765
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 6: fans and fans in small markets in general. You want

766
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 6: to see Paul Skeins take the Pirates to the playoffs

767
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 6: and be that catalyst who elevates a team from last

768
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 6: place to first place. And and watching the Blue Jays,

769
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 6: you know it can be done. The Blue Jays have

770
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 6: a lot of superstars on their payroll. Uh there there,

771
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 6: I think they were top five payroll in Major League Baseball.

772
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 6: But you know that it can be done, that a

773
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 6: team can go from last to first. Uh, the Pirates

774
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 6: need to surround schemes with some stars. And and whether

775
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 6: those are guys that are bona fide superstars or guys

776
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 6: that develop into them over the course of the season

777
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 6: doesn't matter.

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00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: I think.

779
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 6: I think it's just a matter of getting some players

780
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 6: in there who can get some run support for a

781
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 6: guy who's posted back to back seasons with sub two

782
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Speaker 6: e er.

783
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: Do you think what Skeen said after learning of the

784
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: Randy Miller story is enough of a refutation to squash

785
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: the truth of that one that that kind of like

786
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: knocks that story off, well.

787
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: Actually off the record.

788
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 6: Scheme said I'd be doing that, and he said it,

789
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 6: and Abby's voice doing any Murphy impressions.

790
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: Sorry, Abby, that was hilarious. I'd be doing that, I'm

791
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: She immediately apologized, which was hilarious.

792
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: But do you think it does that? Like, you know,

793
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: does that mean it didn't happen? Like it's not an

794
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: outright denial, right.

795
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 5: No, it wouldn't surprise me at all. It's in private.

796
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 6: Paul Skeins talked to some of his teammates about ideal

797
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 6: organizations to play for, or organizations that he would consider

798
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 6: playing for once he reaches free agency or once the

799
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 6: Pirates are kind of compelled to trade him. What you know,

800
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 6: and as Mike said, typically that's what two years left

801
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 6: and arbitration, when Schemes will be making some real money

802
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 6: and h and his trade the trade market will be,

803
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 6: you know, putting pressure on the.

804
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: Pirates to make a decision one way or the other.

805
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 6: You know, they're gonna have to decide whether they're a

806
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 6: contender or pretender at that point in his career. But

807
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 6: he's never really even considered questions when people talk about

808
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 6: contract extension. You know, the Pirates should have signed Schemes

809
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 6: to a long term deal before he ever made his

810
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 6: major league debut, and that they didn't you know, it

811
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 6: was a mistake, you know, I think, and maybe maybe

812
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 6: they tried it, but he kind of said that there

813
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 6: was never really any discussion about that, and probably because

814
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 6: the Pirates knew, there was never a consideration. This is

815
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 6: a guy who's probably going to make a half a

816
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 6: billion dollars or more when he signs his first free

817
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 6: agent deal. But certainly it should be an indicator to

818
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 6: the Pirates that they should sign Connor Griffin now. And

819
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 6: this is a guy who's number one prospect in baseball.

820
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 6: They should lock him up long term, given that he's

821
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 6: a position player who's going to be very impactful for

822
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 6: the Pirates, both offensively and defensively. But I don't think ski.

823
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 6: I think that's the real reality. But I think everybody

824
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 6: knew that Garrett Cole wanted to play for the Yankees.

825
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 6: He wasn't shy about it, even though he was drafted

826
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 6: by the Way late in the first round out of

827
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 6: UCLA or before he went to UCLA, and that you know,

828
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 6: he never really considered signing with the Astros even after

829
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 6: he was traded there and played at a very high

830
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 6: level for them. So I think everyone knows the reality.

831
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 6: I think everyone knows that Schemes would probably prefer to

832
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 6: play for the Yankees if it's the American League, and

833
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 6: probably the Dodgers if it's the National League. Although I

834
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 6: will tell people that he grew up an Angels fan.

835
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 6: You know, he didn't grow up a Dodgers fan, so

836
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 6: it's not like he wants to play for his childhood

837
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 6: favorite team. But I think, more than anything, I think

838
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 6: players want that certainty of knowing they're playing for a

839
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 6: team that's going to go for it every year. And

840
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 6: I don't think anybody will whether you like the Yankees

841
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 6: or not. I don't think anybody debates whether the Yankees

842
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 6: go for it every single year.

843
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: I grew up and be driven around in a Regency Brome,

844
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: but you know I'd rather be in a rain Rover.

845
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 7: You know.

846
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: It's like.

847
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 5: Bro Ham.

848
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, Kevin Varman, Sorry, buddy, we got we we

849
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: do have to jump, but thanks so much.

850
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 5: Ke Let me say, let me say real quick.

851
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 6: I just want to say, I'm gonna miss Bill Crawford.

852
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 5: You know, the old friend part of it. You know,

853
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 5: you feel like you know him.

854
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, Bill treated me like an old friend.

855
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 6: And I've been listening for thirteen years though it's been

856
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 6: a pleasure it makes it makes every morning enjoyable and

857
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 6: I wish you.

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00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: All the best of my friend. Thanks bro Ham. I

859
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 4: appreciate that. You know you know, I love your your stuff.

860
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 4: I respect the hell out of what you do. Nobody

861
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: talks Paul about it than you. Man, Hey Bill, you'd

862
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 4: be doing that, man, I do be doing that, Dan.

863
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: Kevin Garman of the Trip. Thanks Buddy.

864
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: I'd really like to hear some Ted nug listeners take

865
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 2: over during the Electric Lunch.

866
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 6: You could put on some ACDC.

867
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,480
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868
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,799
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869
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,120
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Speaker 1: It's Randy from the DVE Morning Show.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's more important than ever before to connect

872
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: with people in real life and how that connection can

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Speaker 3: make these