1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on wv Z, Boston's 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: news radio. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much, Dan Hawkins. As we 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: am heading into the ten o'clock hour here on a 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: Thursday night, it is it's ten oh seven, just actually 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: almost ten away. Why time flies if you're having fun. 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: So look, the the IRN war continues, Uh, it is 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: and a pause right now, it's on a ceasefire. Uh. 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: And there's a there's a lot going on in addition 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: to the war. I would like to play a couple 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: of interchanges on CNN today. Actually it was yesterday with 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: NATO Secretary General Mark Rute. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: He met with the President at the White House, and 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: the White House has been very critical of NATO, as 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, because most of the NATO allies 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: were not really anxious to get involved in this fight. 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: I think that many of them have described NATO as 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: a defensive organization, meaning if they're attacked, they would they 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: would want our help. We are looking we were looking 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: for a little bit of their help. But anyway, some 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: of the exchanges with Jake Tapper yesterday I thought were 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: really interesting and I'll let you draw your own conclusions. 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: The questions are would we as lawyers would call really 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 2: leading questions. I mean, they are really leading questions. Jake, 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: You're you're wearing your politics on your sleeve here. Let's 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: go to cut number one. He asks Mark Route, who 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: had met again with the President at the White House yesterday, 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten not being not 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: being worried at all or ten being terrified, these are 31 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: just interesting questions. You kind of get a sense of 32 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: where Jake's coming from. 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: Cut one, please, Rob, on a scale of one to ten, 34 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: one being not worried at all, ten being terrified. You 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: where do you leave Washington thinking President Trump? Your opinion 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: of President Trump wanting to leave NATO? 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: Are you one? 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: I'm not worried at all? 39 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: Ten I'm really worried Trump it's going to pull out 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 4: of NATO. 41 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: Well, I'm not going to get into that answering that question. 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to But but what I felt today 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 5: this this was a meeting between friends because we lack 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 5: each other. I really admire his leadership and and he 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 5: knows what he did in the Hague last year as 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 5: a nature summit has been crucial and and natal allies 47 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 5: are with him. But it comes to the aims of 48 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 5: taking out, as I said, degrading the nuclear and the 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 5: ballistic mission capacity of the Uranian. 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: That is not the answer Jake was looking for. So 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: uh he he when to add it again, this has 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: cut one a rob This. 53 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: Just wanted to do it through through diplomatic means. 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 5: I know, but we we run the risk that this 55 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 5: would lead into the North three moments where you talk 56 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: so long and that at a certain moment it's beyond 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: the point where you can still get this done, because 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 5: then they would get their hands on the nuclear capacity, 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 5: and that is that is basically a big risk for Europe. 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 5: It is existential for Israel, it is existential for the 61 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: Middle East. So the whole world is safer by this 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 5: president degrading those capabilities. So there are a lot is 63 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 5: by many Europe acknowledged and they understand that continuing talking 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: to get this done would have brought us potentially past 65 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: that moment where you can still deal. 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: With But that's good answer, It's not what Jake was 67 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: looking for. So let's go one more in here. Again. 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: This is Jake Tapper of CNN phrasing the questions. These 69 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: are cross examination questions in tone NATO Secretary General Mark 70 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: Route on CNN yesterday with Jake Tapper, cut three rub. 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: How many NATO allied countries, A lot or a little 72 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: thought that the war the President Trump and Israel waged 73 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 4: against Iran was illegal? 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 6: Was an illegal war. 75 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: Do you think that's a prevalent for you? 76 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no no, because NAT has always 77 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 5: taken the position that's degrading these capabilities of nuclear and 78 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 5: theistic missiles is crucial and that Iran can never get 79 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: his hands on those two capabilities. There is minspre supports 80 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 5: for that point of view. 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: And there's one more I got to play for you. Basically, 82 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: Tapper's looking for the answers here. He's not asking questions 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: that are in any way, shape or form inquisitive. He 84 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: wants Route to answer questions because because the question really 85 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: begs for the answer. This has cut five A. This 86 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: is a short one uh. And again Route stands his 87 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: ground cut five A. 88 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: Is the world safer today than it was before the 89 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: war was started? 90 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely, because, and this is thanks to President trump leadership, 91 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 5: Degrading these capabilities is really really very important for your 92 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 5: and my safety here in the US, in Europe, in 93 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: the Middle East. 94 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: So that's the question I want to work with Okay 95 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: a little bit here. I think what Route should have 96 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: said to Tapper was Jake, Jake, let me turn the 97 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: table on you. Do you feel the world is safer 98 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: today now that Iran is really going to have problems, 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: you know, developing a nuclear bomb, probably in you know, 100 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: twenty years. Maybe now they could be given you know, 101 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: materials for a bomb, maybe by Russia, maybe by China. 102 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: I would hope not, but I don't think they're going 103 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: to be able to develop. I mean, the Israelis have 104 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: wiped out a lot of the scientists in Iran. They 105 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: literally were have picked them off one at a time. 106 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: A lot of the leadership is now dead. So my 107 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: question to all of you, and I don't know what 108 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: the answer is going to be, but I'll use Jake 109 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: Tapper's question, do you think the world is safer today 110 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: than it was a little more than a month ago 111 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: when the war started. I happen to think it is 112 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: because I think that Iran is off the stage as 113 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: a nuclear power, at least in the short run, and 114 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: I described I defined the short run as ten to 115 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 2: fifteen years. I don't think that they will have the 116 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: capacity as a society as a country to get up 117 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: off the match. So the question is real simple, and 118 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: maybe you disagree, maybe you think the world is in 119 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: a more precarious place. Obviously, this has not been resolved, 120 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: hasn't been finished. Iran is still standing. Maybe they're a 121 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: little stupid, but they're still standing. They still control the 122 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: straight of horror moves. I think that may have to 123 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: be addressed. But I just would love to know at 124 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: this point where I guess, coming to the end of 125 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: the fifth week of this war, is the world any 126 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: safer today in your opinion than it was on the 127 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: morning of February twenty eighth, or let's say on February 128 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: twenty seventh, that was the day before the war started. 129 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: The twenty seventh was a Friday. The war started on 130 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: Saturday morning, Aroun time, and maybe technically Saturday evening our time. 131 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: But the matter it started on the bombs dropped on 132 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: a part of the ward where it was Saturday, February 133 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: twenty eighth six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty 134 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Is the 135 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: world safer today with what has been done? And do 136 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: you feel? And I think you can impose Trump's language. 137 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: I think you can criticize the posture. I can think 138 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: that you can criticize the way in which he has 139 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: he has tried to bully verbally bully Iran. I get it. 140 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: I totally get that. But the question is still fundamentally, 141 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: is the world safer today with Iran? Now? I think 142 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: when you combined what happened last June with the attack 143 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: on the iran In nuclear facilities, and what has been 144 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: followed up on in the last nearly now five weeks six, 145 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: one seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty six, one, seven, 146 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: ninth back after Nightside, you know how I feel. I 147 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: got my cards on the table. I want to know 148 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: would you feel, and if you feel if you disagree 149 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: with me, I especially want you to call and we 150 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: can have a conversation back on Nightside. Right after this, 151 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on. 152 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 153 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: You know, you might argue that we're sort of if 154 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: you put it in the context of a football game, 155 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: what kind of halftime here? We're in a ceasefire which 156 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: may or may not not last two weeks, may may 157 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: or may not result in the end of hostilities. We 158 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: don't know. It's like a football game. Your team's leading, 159 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: or it's tied at halftime or whatever. I'm just asking you, 160 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: do you feel at this point, as what has been accomplished, 161 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 2: that the world is a safer place as a consequence 162 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: of what has occurred in the last nearly five weeks? Simple? 163 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: Is that simple question. Direct answers would be appreciated, but 164 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: conversation always is enjoyed. Tony is an Epping. I'm assuming 165 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: that's Epping, New Hampshire. 166 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 6: Tony, yes it is. Yeah, thank you Dan for having 167 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 6: me on. 168 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: You're welcome, thank you for calling in. What's your take 169 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: on all of this? 170 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 6: Jeezus, I get to say, unfortunately, I don't feel that 171 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 6: we're in a better situation. And just let me explain, Irish, 172 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 6: take your time, okay. 173 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: To take I'm interested in what people say, Go right ahead. 174 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, and just you know, we treated one regime or 175 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 6: one person you know, annihilated him. Have a similar regime 176 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 6: in place. We have like the straight to her MOUs 177 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 6: where you know it's mountainous region, cavernous. They have a 178 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 6: military stronghold there that they're not going to give up. 179 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 6: It's not going to be easy to do so, so 180 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 6: now they're putting tolls and extra towers or whatever they 181 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 6: want to do. You know what folks going by to 182 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 6: add on to the costs, which will for the gas 183 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 6: prices upwards for quite some time. My feeling is, yes, 184 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 6: we can decimate areas, bridges, strongholds, trying to reduce opportunity 185 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 6: for our nuclear threat, you know, annihilating a whole civilization. 186 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 6: You know, the propaganda talk and the extremism that that 187 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 6: Trump has bringing to the table is not putting us 188 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 6: in a good world image. It's making us worse. It 189 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 6: makes us look bad, and it's unfortunate. And I know 190 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 6: we're in a ceasefire currently, and I appreciate you letting 191 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 6: you talk, letting me talk on it, but we haven't 192 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 6: won this whatsoever. And you know that's just my thought 193 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 6: and feeling off hands. 194 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me throw a question at you. Okay, 195 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: we have obviously conducted a lot of air strikes. I 196 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: think I read somewhere that thirty thousand air strikes, so 197 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: the country's been around, has been bombed significantly. How many 198 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: people do you think have died in Iran with all 199 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: of that that ordinance being dropped in their heads? 200 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 6: You know, I mean, I believe pry I don't know. 201 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 6: Actually I don't have that number, but I would tell 202 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 6: you this. I would say that we probably try to 203 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 6: strategically do so with the least amount of casualty to 204 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 6: civilian life, would be my thought process. But when you're 205 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 6: saying annihilate a whole civilization, that may go out the window. 206 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know, again, I think that I agree with you. 207 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: The language is is almost obscene, it's vulgar. It's not necessary. 208 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: I think it's I don't think he is a wordsmith 209 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: at all. Okay, particularly when he's at living. I'm going 210 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: to tell you how many people have died in Iran, Okay, 211 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: and I think you're going to be surprised. Do you 212 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: want to take a guess or not? 213 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 6: Jeez, I don't want to go there. I like to 214 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 6: hear it from you because I could be way off. 215 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 6: You know. 216 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,119 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what are you thinking. 217 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 6: Geez, I don't know. I'm gonna think in the maybe 218 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 6: tens of thousands, possibly. 219 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: That's fair enough. That's that's not a bad a bad thought. 220 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: According to the Iranian Health Ministry. Uh and again, you know, 221 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: there's no reason for them to to to inflate these 222 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: figures as of yesterday they were suggesting and this is 223 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: the Iranian Health Ministry, Okay, that they were suggesting it 224 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: was around two thousand and seventy six people. 225 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 7: Wow. 226 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: And today, yeah, yeah, today they have increased that to 227 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 2: about an estimate of three thousand. And I think that 228 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: that is an incredibly low number, and I'm thankful that 229 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: that's a low number. I do. I do think that 230 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: our military, and I hope, under the guidance of the president, 231 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: although you know, would always try to spare civilians and 232 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: not you know, carpet bomb you know, communities, cities. I mean, 233 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: they did bomb facilities in major cities. But that's an 234 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: important figure because I think it does show that our 235 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: military has gone in there and tried to be strategic. 236 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: They have sunk a bunch of boats. As a matter 237 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: of fact, Trump claims that have sunk the entire Iranian Navy. 238 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, but a lot of 239 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: boats have gone to the bottom, and I'm sure a 240 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: lot of military people are in that figure of three thousand. 241 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: There's no question about that. They've hit like the Runnian 242 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: Revolutionary Guard headquarters. So I just think those statistic like 243 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: that is important. I don't want to see anybody die. 244 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: But remember this was the country. They've killed about anywhere 245 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: from thirty five to forty thousand of their own citizens 246 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: in the last few weeks of January when they protest, 247 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: they just machined on slaughtered people. 248 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 7: Right. 249 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, their their way and their law and their mannerisms 250 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 6: are terrible. They have been a bane on our existence 251 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 6: for decades. 252 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 8: You know. 253 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 6: I remember as a kid growing up and seeing the 254 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 6: Aatola like preach of violence against the US and whether 255 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 6: that was just a media influence are actual it was? 256 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: Well? They look they they were, they were responsible. Quest 257 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: some Salomoni, the guy that that from took out in 258 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: the first administration. He was the father of the the 259 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: roadside bombs that that killed so many Americans during Iraq 260 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:46,119 Speaker 2: and Afghanistan. Oh, you know, it's that they have funded Hesbola. 261 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: They've funded Hamas, that funded the hooties, they funded isis uh. 262 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: This is a country that had great wealth and they 263 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: spent their wealth on trying to destroy Israel. Uh and 264 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: and and we would have been next. So I do 265 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: feel we're safe. 266 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 6: Quick question, So is it that the US always follows 267 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 6: Israel like Israel weeds and we just go yes, yes, 268 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 6: well do whatever you want. I mean, is there just 269 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 6: some rich history there where? Why do we have such 270 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 6: strong ties with them? And why did we follow their 271 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 6: lead here? Any idea? 272 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think if you're familiar with 273 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: the history of Israel, if you know what happened, and 274 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure you do, you're an intelligent person. The Holocaust 275 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: of World War two and with six million U six 276 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: million Jews, and there were others too, were there were Gypsies, 277 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: and there were Catholics and Catholic priests who died in 278 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: Nazi Germany and in German occupied territories. And Israel was 279 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: created as a nation state in May of nineteen forty eight. 280 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: They were attacked immediately. They've been attacked by their neighbors 281 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: for many, many years. It's our strongest ally in the 282 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: Middle East. And by the way, in the last few years, 283 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: a lot of the smaller Arab countries, the Arab Emirates, 284 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, even Jordan, Syria, they are now establishing relationships 285 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: with Israel. And I think that we've looked at Israel 286 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: as an ally, as a democracy, and I support Israel greatly, 287 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: but I also think that there have been moments in 288 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: time when our country was not supportive of Israel. There 289 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: was the US ship back in nineteen sixty seven of 290 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: the USS Liberty, which was struck by an Israeli war 291 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: plane and there were several US sailors who were killed 292 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: in that strike. This was around the time of one 293 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: of the wars that Israel was fighting. So but I 294 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: do think that Israel is an important country and it's 295 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: an important part of the world. And I think that 296 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: I think that presidents have different President Obama was not 297 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: as much as supporter of Israel as President Trump has been. 298 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: But but I think we have a moral obligation to 299 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 2: make sure that Israel did not die in a nuclear 300 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: that that that that that Iran did not fulfill what 301 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: Hitler wanted to do and and get a nuclear bomb 302 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: and kill, you know, millions of Jewish people with a 303 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: nuclear bomb. Because it's a very small country. Do you 304 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: know how big the state of Israel is in terms 305 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: of size, It's about the size of the state of 306 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: New Jersey. And well it's tiny, it's tiny, okay, And 307 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: they would be one one nuke would take Israel off 308 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: the face of the earth. And that's what that is. 309 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: What Iran had said they wanted to do and I 310 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: think if they had the opportunity, they would have done it. 311 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 6: Well, I wanted to tell you I really appreciate that 312 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 6: thorough explanation because that gives me a better idea and 313 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 6: the understanding between the two countries. 314 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: Thanks Tony. 315 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 6: Everyone the you know the two countries. It's it's important 316 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 6: that I can see the extension of the Middle East 317 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 6: as well through that. So thank you. 318 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you Tony for the calling, just your 319 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: first time calling you. 320 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 6: No, no, I can't get the bell ring and I've 321 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 6: already done it before. 322 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: Good. Well, that's okay. I welcome you back. I really 323 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: enjoyed the conversation. Thank you for for for coming back 324 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: and come back more often. I really appreciate it. 325 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 6: I appreciate it. 326 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: Have a good night, Dan, you too, Tony. Great, talk 327 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: to you soon. Here's the news at the bottom of 328 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: the hour, be right back only line open six one. 329 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: It's Night Side Boston's news Radio. 330 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: Next up, we're going to go next, let's go next 331 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: to Mike and Jamaica Plane. Mike, You're next time. Nice side. 332 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 6: Welcome Heydan. How are you. 333 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Mike. Thanks for calling in. What's your take? 334 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: We are we in a better place today than we 335 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: were five weeks ago or no. 336 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 6: Want a straight answer, I don't know, And. 337 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: That's a straight answer. There's probably a lot of people 338 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: don't know. Go right ahead. 339 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And part of it is, I know, like the 340 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: president a year ago when we whenever we had the 341 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: raid where we bossed facility last June. Okay, I can 342 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: remember a quote from him saying that we set them 343 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 3: back ten years, and anyone that says anything different is 344 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: just lying in fake news. So now we're saying they 345 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: that was not true, that they were really close to 346 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: having a nuclear weapon, that I honestly don't know it's 347 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: true or not. And I didn't know how many people 348 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: had been killed. I would have guessed probably like a 349 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: thousand and two thousand, So I guess it wasn't off. 350 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: But after after dropping thirty thousand, thirty thousand assaults with 351 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: that amount of ordinance, that you would think it would 352 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: have been one thousand or two thousand or two thousand. 353 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: You know, I it was more. We would have we 354 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 3: would have seen more, we heard more about it, and well, 355 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: I think. 356 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: It's a trip. All I was trying to say was 357 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: I think is a tribute to the US military, and 358 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: I would hope we could agree upon that that they 359 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: did not target absolutely, they targeted away from civilian populations 360 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: and civilian locations. I mean they they dropped a lot 361 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: of bombs. I mean he did. 362 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: I mean, and I've spent some time in the defense industry, 363 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: so there's and I used to have a friend that 364 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: was Syrian's Christian though, but he used to say, you know, 365 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: when these things came up, there's no question that the 366 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: US and President Trump and the Secretary of War like 367 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: to talk about it. And I support the troops. I'm 368 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: kind of touring on this because Iran Iran, I should say, 369 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: it has not been a friend to us or pretty 370 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: much to almost a lot of people in the Middle East. 371 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: But I don't know if it justifies it. I mean, 372 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: there's no question that we can drop a lot of 373 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: bombs on them. You know, the United States spends more 374 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: than I think the next eight countries combined on our 375 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: defense budget, so we have all this capabilities. The question 376 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: I have is I wonder is it is it the 377 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 3: right thing to do? And does it make us safer? 378 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: I don't think we'll know for a while. I mean, 379 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: because there's often repercussions to these things, you know, even 380 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: even language like we're gonna wipe out every bridge and 381 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: all the civilization, and like you said, it's too harsh. Maybe, 382 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: but you know, harsh is not storing up word. It 383 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 3: wasn't really it was. 384 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 6: You know, it's it's hard. 385 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 3: To say the President of States who knows words, but 386 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: anyone else saying we're going to wipe destroy your civilization 387 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: if you don't, you know, come to terms. 388 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: Look, I used the word. I used the word vulgar. 389 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you said almost vulgar. 390 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: I think Dan, right, almost vulgar vulgar. 391 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's vulgar, but it is vulgar. 392 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I'll give you right. 393 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: So, I mean, all. 394 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: I'm saying is this, you know what the people of 395 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: Iran are living under. You and I both know they 396 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: were just thirty five to forty thousand of their citizens 397 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: mowed down during protests earlier this year against the government. 398 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: You understand that, right, Oh yeah, so we know that 399 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: it's a bad government. They have funded you know, the Hespolad, 400 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: they funded Hamas, they've hunded, the funded the hoodies, they 401 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: funded Isis. They have funded all sorts of radical attacks. 402 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: There were US soldiers who had died because of roadside bombs, 403 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: bombs that were that were that were sent from Iran 404 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: to uh To, to to various groups that that we've 405 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: been fighting. I think if they ever did get a bomb, 406 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: they would have thrown it in an Israel like yesterday, 407 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: and I think that would have had immense, immense complications 408 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: for the world. And I just think that did he 409 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: overstate maybe the effectiveness of the raids last June? Maybe so, 410 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: but I don't. 411 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: Why why Maybe so, I mean, don't I mean so, 412 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: then you don't. We don't know for safer Did he 413 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: overstate it? He didn't say we were maybe we're going 414 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: to close it said ten years away. 415 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: I think was they admitted And I do think they. 416 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 6: Probably stated it. 417 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: But makes you wonder if you can what we can 418 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: believe in not believe that makes me one. 419 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: I understand the point you make it, but I can 420 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: tell you that Reportedly, at the meeting, the last meeting 421 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: that was held in Geneva before the bombs, before the 422 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: attack started, the representative of Iran told our representatives they 423 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: had approximately nine hundred pounds four hundred kilograms four hundred 424 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: times two point two. 425 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 3: Has that been confirmed in I mean, I'm not saying 426 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: it's not true because i'd like I said, I'm torn 427 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: on this because I do. 428 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: I haven't read it, but I haven't seen it. I 429 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: haven't seen No, I have not seen a videotape of 430 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: the representative from Iran telling Cough uh And and Jared 431 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: Kushner that. 432 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: But I have You haven't seen a quote from Wikoff 433 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 3: and Kushna saying that. 434 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: Ye, I've heard I would have. I've heard wit Cough 435 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: say in a cabinet, meaning that was what he was told. 436 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 6: By directly from them. 437 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yeah, he. 438 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: Said at anything that is true or I believe he 439 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: thought it was true. Again, I wasn't there, so I 440 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: can only tell you what what he reported, uh and. No, 441 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 2: I've not seen any contradiction of that. I haven't seen 442 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: anyone say that was made up. And I don't know 443 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: enough about the creation of uh, you know, nuclear enriched uranium. 444 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 2: I'm not a scientist in that regard, but he's reportedly 445 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: they had it was four hundred and I believe four 446 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: hundred and forty kilograms of uranium that were sufficiently developed 447 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 2: that they could make eleven atomic bombs. That's what they 448 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: would that's what would cost. 449 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 3: And what we said before was true, And look, I 450 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: don't I'm the one hundred percent that Iran is a 451 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: bad country, and that's why I'm torn on this, and 452 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 3: I think I just wonder about our justification. Even this 453 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 3: is a different offshoot, but Venezuela. So because we didn't 454 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: really lose anhym in, is that the right thing to 455 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: do to go in there and take out a bag. 456 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: There's a lot of bad people around the world, but 457 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: it seems like if you don't have oil, we're not 458 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: going to take you out. So I just I don't know. 459 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 3: I think we're getting away from doing the right thing. 460 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: Maybe I wonder about that. And I think all this 461 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: disinformation that everyone's spreading now, including him just administration, comes 462 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: back to make people wonder what's true or not true. 463 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: I guess we could have sat back and see how 464 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 2: how it all played out, whether or not Iran knowing 465 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: that they're willing to kill thirty five to forty thousand 466 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: of their own citizens because they're protesting, I mean, you know, 467 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: they there's so much that these guys have been involved 468 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: in they have they have tried to assassinate you know, 469 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: foreign leaders. Uh, they throw gays off of buildings. I mean, 470 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be a gay person in torond 471 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: these days. 472 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, and in most of the Middle East too, right, exactly. Yeah. 473 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: I don't think they do that in Israel. I don't 474 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 2: think gays have a problem in Israel. 475 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 6: No. 476 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 3: No, I'm you and I are and I'm with you 477 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: on that. 478 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 6: I agree with you. That's why I say most of 479 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 6: the least. 480 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we can't. We can't. 481 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: We can't Palestine and in a lot of places. 482 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we we we can't. We can't go into the 483 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: Middle East with the eighty second Airport Division and and 484 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: save gays from being uh, you know, tortured or or killed. 485 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: Obviously we can't do that, but it does give us 486 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: some indication of what we're dealing with. Mike. I so 487 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: appreciate your call. I always enjoy a good back and forth, 488 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: and you provided that tonight. And I can't thank you enough. 489 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 6: Oh, you're very welcome. 490 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: Thank you, Danie. Sorry, I have a great night. 491 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 6: Sorry. 492 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: One thing we do is we give people a chance. 493 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: Let me go to Quentin in miss How are you Quinton, 494 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: haven't heard from you in a while. 495 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, right, great to talk to you, Dan. I'm the 496 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 8: guy to talk to you before. I'm yeah in Michigan here, 497 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 8: and so I analyze them from the standpoint of communication. 498 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 8: And I wrote the book on Jean Shepherd and a 499 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 8: Christmas Story, and so I'm not neither here nor there. 500 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 8: But what's going right on right now is really quite brilliant. 501 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 8: So I don't like a lot of what the President 502 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 8: says about it, but the fact of the matter is 503 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 8: he got some very smart people to go into Iran 504 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 8: and knock out the key structures that around needed to 505 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 8: both oppress its people and to go after nearby countries 506 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 8: and of course the devil, which is the United States 507 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 8: and secondarily Israel. So right now we're at a point 508 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 8: where it's going to depend on whether or not uh 509 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 8: and negotiate this thing and then keep it really going well. 510 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 8: And that's going to be a tough one. But I 511 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 8: think if he can do that, it's going to change 512 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 8: the whole direction of the Middle East. And that's going 513 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 8: to broaden to the Chinese, it's going to broaden to 514 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 8: the Russians who need some of the oil, and it's 515 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 8: really terrific. So I'm positive about it. I'm a little 516 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 8: bit skeptical about some of the overstatement about how well 517 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 8: this is going, but that's always the case with any 518 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 8: country in the military. So I'm positive about it. I 519 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 8: don't agree with you, and I'm hoping that in the 520 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 8: next two weeks what we're going to see is the 521 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 8: strait of Ormo's open and stuff's going to I'm rolling 522 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 8: through there. China's going to like it, and Russia is 523 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 8: going to like it, and at the same time time, 524 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 8: the US is going to like it, and Iran is 525 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 8: going to say, hey, we can still make some money 526 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 8: off of this. Let's calm down, take the money, get 527 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 8: our country going again, and perhaps even some of the 528 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 8: more dictatorial leaders in Iran will step back and say, 529 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 8: all right, let's see if we can't be a more 530 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 8: reasonable country. 531 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 2: I think that I think they could could use a 532 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: good separation of church and state. To put it bluntly, 533 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: it's it's a theocratic dictatorship that goes by a set 534 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: of rules that are very fundamentalist at its core, and 535 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: if their leadership and if their people want to believe 536 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: in that sort of you know, religion, strict religious behavior 537 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 2: and ideology. That's their decision. But I would think that 538 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: if the Iranian people, which used to be a very 539 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: westernized country, had an opportunity to live the life style 540 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: that they would like to live, it would be quite. 541 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 8: Different, fantastic. In fact, I would say it's only twenty 542 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 8: probably ten to twenty percent that the hardliner theocratic leaders 543 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 8: are in there and people as a percentage, and then 544 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 8: the rest of the people. Really what they want is 545 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 8: Persians who have a fantastic history. Absolutely much of the 546 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 8: development of science in the Persian culture has been spectacular. 547 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: Well. One of our one of our professors last night, 548 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: Professor Ali bonoaz Easy, was talking about the great culture 549 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: that he was born into, by the way, and that 550 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: he left to come here to teach. And I hope 551 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: if you didn't listen to our ten o'clock hour last night, 552 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: did you happen to hear Nick Berg the hour we 553 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: did with that gentleman last night at ten o'clock. 554 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that. 555 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: Is an incredible hour of his story is just incredible. 556 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: So Quentin, great to hear your voice, so good call 557 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: more often. Okay, thank you so much, but I got 558 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: a break, and you know, the business as well as 559 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: I do. I got a break for a commercial here. 560 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 8: Okay, thanks funny, Okay, all right, thanks, Bat'll. 561 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. We'll be right back on nights Side. 562 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: Only line is six one, seven, four, ten thirty. 563 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm don you 564 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: Bzy Boston's News Radio. 565 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: We'll go next to Dave in San Antonio, Texas. Dave, 566 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: you're next time night Saga. 567 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 7: Right ahead, Yeah, good evening, Dan. I just have to 568 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 7: say that I'm very disappointed in what is being said 569 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 7: so far. Everybody's ready to criticize mister Trump and his 570 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 7: use of words, but we're all the achievements that the 571 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 7: victories that we've had over there. 572 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know. 573 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 7: I don't know. 574 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 6: I don't know. 575 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 7: I don't know. These people aren't one tenth the man 576 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 7: Donald Trump is. 577 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: Now, don't have to attack the opinions of other callers. Dave, 578 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: just tell me what you think. 579 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 6: Well, I'm just saying in general here in America. 580 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I seen he was going to callers, and 581 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: I don't want people to attack you, you know, in 582 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: what you have to say. 583 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 7: I just I I do know one thing. I do 584 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 7: know one thing, and I can't tell you how I 585 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 7: know it, but I do know it. When he told uh, 586 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 7: the leaders of Iran that he was going to attack this, that, this, 587 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 7: and that, and they put all those little kids around 588 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 7: where he was going to attack, typical of terrorists, and 589 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 7: how they behave He knew they'd do it, and he 590 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 7: has something else in mind. What he had in mind, 591 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 7: I don't know, but he had something else in mind. Hey, 592 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 7: that's theory. That was his votive. Donald outsmarts people all 593 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 7: the time, He outsmarts them, and so it's just hilarious 594 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 7: how he outsmarts people. But that is the reason he 595 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 7: he did that. And had he gone done, he carried 596 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 7: out what he said he was going to do, it 597 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 7: would not have been anywhere near those children. 598 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 2: Well, I hope you're right. I mean, obviously they don't 599 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: care about the lives of their citizens. You sew it 600 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: to the thirty five or forty thousand, and I'm sure 601 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 2: that many of those people were not there voluntarily, but 602 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: and some may have been. But but I think I 603 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 2: agree with the points that you're making in that regard. Yeah, 604 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: all right, baby, thanks. I want to try to get 605 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: one more in here before the break. 606 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, good night, Dre, have a great night. 607 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: Thanks for calling. Let me keep rolling. You're going to 608 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 2: go to Stephen Fall River a little closer to home. Steve, 609 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 2: You're next one night, sag right ahead. 610 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 9: Hey Dan, it's Stephen Lee. 611 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: How are you hi, Stephen Lee? 612 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: Welcome, Nice to talk to you, go to talk. 613 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 9: Have so many things that are on my mind, it's 614 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 9: ready to explode. But I will ask you with this 615 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 9: question whold we ask you and you can ask your listeners, 616 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 9: what percentage of the ninety million people in Iran do 617 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 9: you think are the regime and what percentages are actually 618 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 9: ones that want a democracy to be the results in 619 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 9: their country. 620 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 2: I'll give you my answer. I've listened to enough people 621 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: talk about that. I think that as long as you 622 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 2: have the military and as long as the populace is 623 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: not physically armed, when you see that many people go 624 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: into the streets, that many people willing to die, I 625 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: would say that you can control a population with ten 626 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: percent of the of your people. There's ninety million people there. 627 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: I would say somewhere around nine million of those people, 628 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: they have this group of paramilitary group beyond the Iranian 629 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: the Revolutionary Guard, which is there's a military. There's the 630 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 2: Iranian military, there's the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and then you 631 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: have this other group it's called like the Beaches or something. 632 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 2: They are a million strong who basically just like in Cuba, 633 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 2: they they control the big cities and the small towns 634 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: and and just like in any communist country, you don't 635 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: know who you're talking to. So if you and I 636 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: are neighbors, I one of us has to say, you 637 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: know this is this isn't going well for us. And 638 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: at that point, if I'm talking to you and you're 639 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: with the government, I'm in big, big trouble. So that's 640 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 2: the way they control the people. 641 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 9: No that I understand. I really feel with other are 642 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 9: a lot more than ten percent who are part of 643 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 9: the regime side. 644 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: But what do you think, what do you think the 645 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: number is? Give me your number. 646 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 9: Oh, I think this could probably be forty fifty percent, 647 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 9: maybe even sixty percent. Well, if it's sixty. 648 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 2: Percent, then we should then it's sixty percent. You leave 649 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: them alone, because you say, well, that's that's the way 650 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: the country who wants to live under under a country 651 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: like that, it has to be a minority. 652 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 9: Steve, I understand that, but you know what the same 653 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 9: thing is going on in Russia. How many people that 654 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 9: are there who would love to be in a democracy 655 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 9: ever think that Russia is going to change the way 656 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 9: they do business. It's just not going to happen. And 657 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 9: to sit down and try and have peace talks with 658 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 9: people like this will never tell the truth. So what 659 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 9: you would be what it would be like sitting at 660 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 9: a table with Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Kaczinski and the Boston 661 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 9: Strangler and trying to have a logical conversations to say, 662 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 9: how can we work this out? These people? You cannot 663 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 9: make a deal with these people. These people have so 664 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 9: much hate they will never stop hating. 665 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you, and they particularly, they particularly 666 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: Helpe hate the country that is that's contiguous to them, Israel. 667 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 2: So in your opinion, what should be what should the 668 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: United States do? Are you saying we should just get 669 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: the heck out of there and let the chips go? 670 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: They may, I hope not go ahead. 671 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 7: Now. 672 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 9: I think what Donald Trump started it's just the tip 673 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 9: of the iceberg. I think he did the right thing. 674 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 9: I can't say that I am in favor of the 675 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 9: man and the way he had of himself, but that's 676 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 9: the guide, the point, the thing that has to be done, 677 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 9: and the thing that came into my mind, and I'm 678 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 9: almost ashamed to say it, is when I saw all 679 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 9: those people, you know, celebrating in the streets with the 680 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 9: Iranian flags and loving everything that they thought the government did. 681 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 9: The only thing that came to my mind is is 682 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 9: if doctors were presented with a big batch of cancer 683 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 9: and a Petri dish and they said, if you take 684 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 9: all the chemotherapy you have and blast it so that 685 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 9: this is totally wiped out, would you do it? 686 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 6: So? 687 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 9: The only thing that came to my mind was they're 688 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 9: all there, They're all in a group. There were hundreds 689 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 9: of thousands of people protesting out there. Those people are 690 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 9: never going to change. 691 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: That would be a war crime, that would be a 692 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 2: legitimate war crime. 693 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 9: Well it would be a war crime. But you know what, 694 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 9: how else are you going to eradicate people that think 695 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 9: this way? 696 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: Well? I think I am hoping that my that that's 697 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: closer to my estimate than yours. Steven Lee, I hate 698 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 2: to do this to you because you're a great caller 699 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: and a good friend, but I got to jump to 700 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: the newscast. I'm gonna let you go, my friend. We 701 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,439 Speaker 2: will talk again. Please call more often. 702 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 9: Okay, I hope so, because I'm so frustrated. 703 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 2: Thanks Steven, me too. Okay, thanks by having me. You 704 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: have a great night. We'll take a break. Here's the 705 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 2: news coming right back. One line at six one, seven, two, 706 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: five four ten thirty and one at six one seven, 707 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Join us.