1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: We live in a world where the Pittsburgh Steelers are 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: a top five NFL team. We live in a world 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: where Arthur Smith is a head coaching candidate running the 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: twenty ninth ranked offense in the NFL. We live in 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: a world where the Penguins seem to think system first. 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: We live in a world where Penn State is a 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: hockey school and pitts quarterback has more people optimistic than 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: the guy some people wanted to see the Steelers draft 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: out of Penn State. And we live in a world 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: where Penn State's football fans think Indiana's head coach can 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: make them better. In the words of Iron Maiden, I'm 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: a stranger in a strange land. 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Tim bens in for Mark Manaday. Mark is sick. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: As you heard yesterday, I felt that one coming a 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: mile away. If you heard him on the podcast for 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: Breakfast Bends, which we taped up Sunday night. I had 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: the over under on me being here Monday, not Tuesday. 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: But here I am with Tommy Radio, who joins me 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: to talk about a myriad subjects, including this list that 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: I saw at Pro Football Talk before I come on. 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: It's their power rankings. Pro Football Talk has its Power 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: rankings out and they have the Pittsburgh Steelers fifth. 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: Right now. 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: Now, Tom, this is, in my estimation, kind of like 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 1: college football polls in August, college basketball polls in November. 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean much. In fact, it's the NFL. It 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: means nothing. 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Your record is what your record is at the end 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: of the year, and it doesn't matter what perception says. 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: It does sort of matter how the Steelers perceive themselves, though, 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: how they move forward to the trade deadline, how they 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: move forward using young players or not, how they move 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: forward thinking that what they're doing is working. Are the 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Steelers really the fifth best team in the National Football League? 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: And before you answer, would you like me to couch 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: it by telling you who the top four teams are 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Talk? 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: You should couch it for the audience, because I'm looking 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: at this bad boy right now. And spoiler alert, I 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: disagree with some teams that are behind the Pittsburgh Steelers. 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: Here some teams that are behind the Steels. They should 42 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: not be number five. 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: The Bucks are the best team in football. The Colts 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: are the second best team in football. 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: No, they are not. 46 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: The Lions are the third best team in football. They 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: actually should be higher. I think they might be number two. 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: The Rams are the fourth best team in football, and 49 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: the Steelers by virtue of beating Dylan Gabriel in the 50 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: now one in five Cleveland Browns have jumped from number 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: eleven to number five. According to this Pro Football Talk list, 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: just beating the Browns catapult level of bully from number 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: eleven to number five. And do you look at the 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: Steelers team and say that's the fifth best team in football? 55 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: No, for me, it does not catapult my level of 56 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: belief to those heights. I don't think we can really 57 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: start having our belief changed in this team until we 58 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: see what happens in the stretch after the Cincinnati game. 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: Don't you agree? Like that's the measuring stick stretch for 60 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: the Steelers. Two home games against the Packers and the 61 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: Colts back to back. Then you go on the road 62 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: for Sunday night football against the Chargers. You go two 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: and one in that stretch after beating Cincinnati on Thursday night. Okay, Florio, 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: I'll believe that you're number five. Maybe is this Florio's 65 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: list or me? I just associate everything with Pro football 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: talk of flour. 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Well does say he does have his byline on it. So, yes, 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: it is Mike Florio's list. As it turns out, well, 69 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: there you go, Florio, I believe in you. 70 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: Then if you go two and one in that stretch, 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: if the Steelers come out of that with just two losses, 72 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: they'll set them up self up nice. And those are 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: some wins against some quality opponents. But do you really 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: count the Patriots as a win against the quality opponent 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: just yet? You're got too because they're four and too 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: and they're in first place in the East. Again, this 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: goes back to sort of a do you believe in them? 78 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: The quick analogy to college basketball, like that's a quad 79 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: one win right for now? Yeah, the Patriots are a 80 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: quad one win. That's going to Duke and winning a 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: Cameron indoor at this point. 82 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: But you don't buy into them yet, do you. 83 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: No. But even at the time, and you and I 84 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: talked about this, even at the time, I said that 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: could be a huge win because that could be the 86 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: seventh seed on the line. Now it might be the 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: third versus fourth seed on the line. 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: Based on what the Bills look like. I think we 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: should be all relaxing on the Bills. I saw Florio 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: bump them out of his top ten down seven spots 91 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: on this too. I mean, well it was it wasn't 92 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: great against the Falcons. 93 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: That's a tricky specific extreme overreaction. Like he's got the 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: Eagles eighth, he's got the Bills eleventh. If the Steelers 95 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: were to play the Eagles or Bills in a neutral field, 96 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: what would the points spread be seven to nine over 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown in favor of the other two teams? 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: Or Yes, I think that's an easy pick right there. 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: He's got the Chiefs thirteen. 100 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: See, they should be flirting with the top five after 101 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: what they did. I think that I walked away from 102 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: Week six action Tim thinking that the Chiefs are the 103 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: best team in the AFC again, even though they're three 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: and three. Right now, I just see it coming now 105 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: Rashie Rice is back, like everything's just going to round 106 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 3: in the form for them, and Mahomes is just playing awesome. 107 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: You know, we're starting to actually see statistical performances from Mahomes, like, 108 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: you know, fantasy football performances for Mahomes. That was what 109 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: he was putting up when he was, you know, a rookie, 110 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: second year, third year player in the league, right because remember, 111 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: like the past couple of years, Mahomes wasn't really doing 112 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: it numbers wise, but he was just winning games, and 113 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: they were winning those low score, one score games. 114 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 4: Like now he's lightening it up. 115 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: I mean, three touchdowns through the air, one on the 116 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: ground against the Lions, Like he's the second favorite for 117 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: MVP now all of a sudden. 118 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 119 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just view them as the number one 120 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: team again in the AFC. They're just they're gonna come 121 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: on strong, They're gonna be just fine, and the other 122 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: ones are kind of sputtering a little bit. 123 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: Well, Tom, this is a situation of my view that 124 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: is very similar to what we went through in twenty twenty, 125 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: where no one really thought that the Steelers were an 126 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: eleven and oh team. They were number one in the 127 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: AFC for a week after week after week, unbeaten, and 128 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: the Chiefs had won loss right behind them, and everybody 129 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: took offense in Pittsburgh that people thought that the Chiefs 130 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: were better. Where do the Chiefs get off being ranked 131 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: ahead of the Steelers. The Steelers have beaten this team, 132 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: the Steelers have beaten that team. And you know, like 133 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: I was on board with saying that the Steelers were 134 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: deserving to be ranked in front of Casey because they 135 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: were eleven and zero and Casey was ten and one. 136 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: But I always thought if those two teams would have 137 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: to play in the playoffs, I'm picking the Chiefs. So 138 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: like there's deserve, there's who are you what based on 139 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: what the standings say, and then there's projections. Then there's prognostications, 140 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: and that's a completely different kettle of fish. Now there 141 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: are some wonky ratings that Florio has in this poll, 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: and we just went through a whole bunch of them. 143 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: The tricky thing with the Steelers, though, is if you 144 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: look at who they still have left to play, if 145 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: you look at the state of the division, it's hard 146 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: to look at the Steelers and for all the reasons 147 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: that we've had accumulating our heads over the last eight years, 148 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: it's hard to separate that, divorce that from the reality 149 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: of what their record is, how bad the division is, 150 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: and what their record is likely to be by the 151 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: time the playoffs shakeout. Like, they've got four wins already, 152 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: likely to get five on Thursday unless they screw it 153 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: up against Cincinnati. You're telling me they can't squeeze out 154 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: five more wins to get to ten and seven. Do 155 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: you think right now it's going to take eleven wins 156 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: to win the AFC North I do not. 157 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: That's just two more losses for Baltimore that they can afford. 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: So of the five wins that they would need. 159 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: Then if they were to beat Cincinnati on Thursday, two 160 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: more wins against the Browns and Bengals, there's seven they 161 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: can't scratch out three more over the next two and 162 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: a half months. 163 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: They be able to. 164 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: They should be able to. 165 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: And that's what's so kind of funny about what's also 166 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: building along with the optimism in Steelers Nation right now, Tim, 167 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: the optimism that's out of control. Like I said, you 168 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: beat the Browns, let's wait until I don't know about that. 169 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: You don't know if it's out of control. 170 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: No, I don't, because like I want to wait to 171 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: see if we beat Like you know that a healthy 172 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: dose of skepticism out there. I think there always a 173 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: healthy dose of Like I was listening to some of 174 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Batch and Pursuita's postgame show. I've heard the station down 175 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: the dial. I hear Madden every single day. I hear 176 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: people dubious of the hype getting out of control for 177 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers because they saw it last year, they saw 178 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: it in twenty twenty. 179 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but there are different circumstances this year, mainly the 180 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: rest of the division really stinking out loud like last year. 181 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: All the rest of the division can stink, they can 182 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: win it, and that might mean nothing in terms of 183 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,359 Speaker 1: what they do in the playoffs. 184 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: Like the big difference of how that might. 185 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Affect the playoffs is they could be ten and seven 186 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: and then get a wild card team. It's not all 187 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: that good because the whole AFC is soft and you 188 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: get the home game and you finally get the playoff win. 189 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: Are they a challenger to the Chiefs the Bills that 190 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: they go to those stadiums and win in the playoffs? 191 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: Do they do it? 192 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 5: No? 193 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I still don't think so. But 194 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, Madden's kind of laid this out there before, 195 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: and this would be like so bad luck for the Steelers. 196 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Like what if the Steelers are the third seed, okay, 197 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: or if they're the third seed and the Chiefs and 198 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: I take that back, the Bills and the Chargers of 199 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: the top two seeds, the Steelers are the three seed 200 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: and they get the Chiefs coming to Pittsburgh Ackroestra Stadium. 201 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was thinking too, Like, the 202 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: Chiefs are going to make the playoffs, I'm sure of that. 203 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: I think they have an outside shot now at getting 204 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: the West back in their control because the Chargers are 205 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: just so banged up in the Broncos. I don't know 206 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: what the Broncos are, man, I really don't. Probably a 207 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: playoff team, But what if the five seed is the 208 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: Chiefs and they come to Pittsburgh and you're the four 209 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: or the three in the six matchup? Like then you're 210 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: just falling into I think, just a devastating trap where 211 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 3: everything was pointing in the direction this year. If you 212 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: finally ending that playoff drought, you get the home game, 213 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: You've got Rogers, there's a lot of feel good going 214 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: into it. You win the Division crown, you get the 215 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: hat and T shirt game with the division champ on it, 216 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: and then Kansas City rolls in on their you know, 217 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 3: three straight road game run to another Super Bowl starts 218 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. 219 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: But I know I heard Batch on the DV Morning 220 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: show today say that the first call out of the 221 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: gate fall in the win over the Browns wasn't complained 222 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: about Tomlin kicking it on a timeout blowing a time 223 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: out at the end of the first half. 224 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: That was amazing, you know, I was truly chef's kiss 225 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: that that guy called in and was like, I can't 226 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 3: believe Rogers had to burn that time out. 227 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: What are they doing in the bye week? Nothing? Just 228 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: sitting around. 229 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: I didn't hear any overwhelming amount of positivity pushing back 230 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: on whatever point Madden was making that he made on 231 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: my podcast. I saw it on all every single comment. 232 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: I didn't see a single comment that said we were 233 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: being way too negative on our live stream on YouTube 234 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: United Madden Ben's Unfiltered. I do think there is still 235 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: a healthy amount of skepticism out here about who the 236 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: Steelers really are. But my balance to that right now 237 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: is they can be paper champions like leaf Flowers used 238 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: to say. They can be phony Bologney as some people 239 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: insist that they are, but they can still win this 240 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: crap division if the because you can look at the 241 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Ravens and say, well, they're done. You know, you can 242 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: look at the Bengals and say, well they're nothing. They 243 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: don't have Burrow. You can look at the Browns and say, look, 244 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: how bad the Browns just were in Pittsburgh. Then I 245 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: means the Steelers win the division to your. 246 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: Point of they're going to the playoffs then in a 247 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: home game, to your point about ten and seven taking 248 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: the division, I mean, that's kind of what we all 249 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: thought the Steelers were going to be this year, right, 250 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: another iteration of nine and eight or ten and seven. 251 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: So they go ten and seven, and like I was saying, 252 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: Ravens are one and five right now, they're two losses 253 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: away from the best they could ever dream of, being 254 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: ten and seven. And you take care of business again 255 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, which you better, you get them one lost 256 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: closer to that. And since you earn the split at 257 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: the very least, I guarantee you, with how much they've 258 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: been messing around with their record earlier in the season, 259 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 3: you're gonna get the AFC tie breaker against them, and 260 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: you're gonna win the division, or you'll get the division 261 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: tiebreaker against them. So yeah, like I get what you're saying, 262 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 3: Like the Steelers aren't really different than what we thought 263 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: they would be at the beginning of the year. 264 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: They're kind of going to do. 265 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: The same thing, but everybody else just might allow them 266 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: to take the division crown. 267 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: Anyway, what if the Titans hire Arthur Smith the way 268 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season to be there, is that. 269 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: Really being talked about? They're thinking about Art coming home? 270 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: Well? Ian Rappaport said yesterday he talked about two candidates. 271 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: One of them was Matt Nagy and the other one 272 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: was Arthur Smith. 273 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: Okay, do you ever wonder if like Rapaport needs to 274 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: come up with something real quick because he's got a 275 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: hit coming up, and he's like, he's really I. 276 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: Think Arthur Smith is a great agent, is what I think. Like, 277 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: I was surprised he was even thought about for the 278 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator job, let alone getting it. He got two 279 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: head coaching interviews after that offense last year in his 280 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: first year that warranted him an interview with Chicago and 281 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: New York and now Rapaports out there talking about him 282 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: and Matt Nagy to take over for Cam Johnson. Like 283 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: if you're what, independently thinking, what have you seen from 284 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith as a head coach in Atlanta or a 285 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: coordinator even in Tennessee. Let alone here in Pittsburgh makes 286 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: you think, yeah, we want to take our number one 287 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: overall pick quarterback and have that guy coach him. 288 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: Where do you see that? 289 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: And yet rap reports on the NFL network is one 290 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: of two names that is mentioned here. 291 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: I mean Derek Henry coming with him or some new 292 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: Derrick Henry. 293 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: Because that's the only thing that Arthur Smith has done 294 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 3: well is hand the ball off to Derek Henry and 295 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 3: have that kind of offense, you know, flows through the 296 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 3: generational running back, because every other offense that he's had 297 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: has been towards the bottom of the league, including this 298 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: one right now. Even though it's better than what we've seen, 299 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: the numbers don't speak to that, not in the least, 300 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: not at all. Twenty ninth overall, and I think. 301 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: They're just what are they running the football? I think 302 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: they're like thirtieth or thirty first or something like that. 303 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: I haven't checked out. 304 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: Weird though that it. 305 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: Kind of feels better though, you know what I mean, Like, 306 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: it does feel like a better offense, but that's probably 307 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: just the Rogers effect and his ability to make a 308 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: player two here or there. 309 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: Just everybody is so flawed. Everybody is so flawed right 310 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: now in the National Football League that the lowering tide 311 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: is raising all boats. If you're in Pittsburgh, if you 312 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: look at the Steelers offense, the Steelers defense, the Steelers coaching, 313 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: everything is being raised by everybody else seeing like, how 314 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: do you look at that defense for the Bills last 315 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: night and say, well, that's for sure a super Bowl team. Like, 316 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: I know Bills fans, I know lots of Bills fans. 317 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: I was going on a text thread back and forth 318 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: with the guy yesterday's Bills fans. Another lost year with 319 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: Josh Allen sounding like people at the end of the Roethlisberger, 320 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: another wasted year with Ben and here we're in October, 321 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: We're in early October, mid October. 322 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: I mean, they're run defense is abysmal. That's why you 323 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: kind of could see that coming to mind, I don't 324 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: have a lot of weapons going into Atlanta. You could 325 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: see that coming with Bijon, just like you knew that 326 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: they were going to run and run and run the 327 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: ball and the flok couldn't stop them, and you're right, 328 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: that's not gonna go. Well, if they haven't fixed that 329 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: up come playoff time or added a weapon, they need 330 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs. I mean, it's just so clear they need 331 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: somebody like that. 332 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: Would you aggressively pursue a wide receiver if you're the Steelers. 333 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I talked about it yesterday. I Mark Show, Like, 334 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: that's the obvious thing that the Steelers should be doing 335 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: right now. Because of that, what did you say, low 336 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: lowering tide around you? 337 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: The calculus of the whole quarterback conversation for them has changed, 338 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: is it not? Not just in terms of the NFL 339 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: draft not being as stockpile rich as we thought it was, 340 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: but also from the standpoint of if they're drafting later, 341 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be even harder to trade up. And you know, 342 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: like a somebody else pointed out to me, what about 343 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: the comp picks. You're not gonna get as much of 344 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: the comp picks now potentially as you thought going in 345 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: because of lack of playing time and so forth. 346 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: And I mean, we can start to see Aaron Rodgers 347 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: coming back really form on the horizon, right, Like. 348 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: That's part of it that seems to be very clearly. 349 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: Aron gets you to eleven or twelve wins and you 350 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: win this crappy division, are you gonna be inclined to 351 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: just let him waltz off? And is he gonna be 352 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: inclined to waltz off to retirementcause He's not gonna go 353 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: out winning a super Bowl. He's gonna go out. 354 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: Winning a division and maybe winning a playoff game. 355 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: Maybe that might be enough based on where the Steelers are, 356 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: isn't for Rogers? 357 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: If he was that good to get them there. 358 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: And he gets through an entire season healthy, you know 359 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: what I mean, Like there would be another part of 360 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: that injury about it, or. 361 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: Doesn't get banged up too much. 362 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: Like if he's feeling good at the end of the year, 363 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: why would you walk away from a twelve win eleven 364 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: win team that hosted a playoff game. 365 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: And that's another thing about these rankings that we're talking 366 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: about right now, is we're we are not taking into 367 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: account that the Steelers haven't had their bad stretch yet. 368 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: They haven't had their row to five, they haven't had 369 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: their three losses to Kyler Murray and Bailey Zappi and 370 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco like they did in twenty twenty three. 371 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: That's spooky with who's coming up in two days. 372 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: They haven't had their two and six like they did 373 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: to open up the season in Mitch Trubisky's first year. 374 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: Like they haven't had that bad down stretch yet that 375 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: we're all anticipating they haven't had one two and one 376 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: to seven two and one to falling out of the 377 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: playoffs like twenty eighteen, like that that spiral that they 378 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: often have. 379 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: They haven't had that yet. 380 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: They will at some point the well, because they always do, 381 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: but it. 382 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: Hasn't happened yet. 383 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: So Florio can say they're the fifth best team in 384 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: the NFL because they beat the friggin' Browns. 385 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: That's what's so hard for me to follow with all 386 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: this like craziness on the heels of them looking good. 387 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, like they did look great, and 388 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: that was their most complete performance, but as an awful 389 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: football team in Cleveland, that. 390 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: Is getting better. 391 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: And we said going into the Steelers game was playing 392 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: better football than the rest of the teams in the 393 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: AFC North, but that was more of an indication on 394 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: what the rest of the teams were playing like as 395 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: opposed to the Browns. 396 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: The Browns are just like a little engine that could 397 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: this year. And that's why they kept, you know, throwing 398 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 3: the ball towards the end of that game and dragging 399 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: that game out, which was killing me back here running 400 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: that thing like two oh my god. But you know 401 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: why they were doing it because it's a Gabriel audition. 402 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: At this point, we're gonna run this thing like her. 403 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: Sanders right into the starting lineup. That might be what happened. 404 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: Did you think he played that bad? 405 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: Though? I don't think he was tough. He just couldn't 406 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: do anything. What quarterback could under the pressure exactly get 407 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: a lot of help Like I, each tight end dropped 408 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: the pass, Judy dropped the pass. 409 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: All right, we come back speaking to the Browns. 410 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: A former NFL coach with Pittsburgh Ties, also has a 411 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: problem with what the Browns did trading Joe Flaco to 412 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals. You'll hear his quote next coming up on 413 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: one O five nine the x. 414 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 6: iHeartRadio Alter Huge. 415 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: I haven't heard Andrew Barry say anything about what Mike 416 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Tomlin said about him. I did read what the head 417 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: coaches from the Bengals and Browns said, and it was nothing. 418 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: All Zach Taylor said was we're happy that he's here 419 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: talking about Joe Flacco. After Mike Tomlin buried the Browns 420 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: for trading Flaco to the Cincinnati Bengals, Stefanski just said 421 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: I would prefer to not comment on that, basically because 422 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to tell the truth, that's why. 423 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: And then there was. 424 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: Terry Pluto from Cleveland dot Com. We'll get to his 425 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: column in just a little bit, but the star of 426 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: the show on this topic today tom was Bruce Arians, 427 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: the former Mike Tomlin assistant, the former offensive coordinator for 428 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and former head coach with the Tampa 429 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers and Arizona Cardinals. This is Arians on the 430 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee show today. He was also a coach in Indianapolis, 431 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: and they do a segment where it's BS with AB 432 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: is something BS or not? And he was asked Arians 433 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: by McAfee if trading Flaco within the division was a 434 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: BS move by the Cleveland Browns. Obviously, Tomlin thinks that 435 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: it is, and Arians apparently agrees with this former boss total. 436 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 4: Books, Okay, it's not a good decision. 437 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: What are you thinking? 438 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 5: Okay? I mean, first of all, Pittsburgh's a big rival. 439 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 5: Since Snager's nick biggest rival, why would you trade him 440 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 5: to Cincinnati. If I'm gonna trade him, may get a 441 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 5: six round pick for somewhere else. Now, I ain't traded 442 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 5: him in the division. All of a sudden, to mar 443 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 5: Chase and Tikiggins have twenty targets to Marches has ten 444 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 5: receptions almost one hundred yards and one week couldn't get 445 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 5: the damn ball to him. 446 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 4: The other three weeks and now Pittsburgh's had to play 447 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: on Thursday night. 448 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom, that has been on the record of Cole. Yeah, 449 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 2: he does not want to see Joe and those receivers. 450 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: As like he had him right where we wanted him, 451 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: and they go and trade this guyhead to our division rivals, say, 452 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 5: that makes no sense to me. 453 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 1: Now, Terry Pluto's call him on Tom from Cleveland dot Com. 454 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: He theorized that Tomlin was upset from a football perspective, 455 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: like the football purist, and Mike Tomlin was offended. That's 456 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: how mad he was at the very thought of a 457 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: team tanking on a season and a team trading a 458 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: quarterback within the division because they're giving up on a 459 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: year like that was sort of the nuts and bolts 460 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: of his take on it. And I do think that 461 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: there was some football symbolism, some football sensitivity from Tom 462 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: that it was offended by trading within the division. But 463 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: I just think he's pissed because he doesn't get to 464 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: play against Jake Browning. I don't think it's much deeper 465 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: than that. If he thought that the Browns made a 466 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: move that made the Bengals worse, and he knew he 467 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 1: was gonna get the worst out of Cleveland and the 468 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: worst out of Cincinnati, he wouldn't have said what he 469 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: said yesterday. He would have been fine with it and 470 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: would have been grinning like a cheshire cat. But he 471 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: was mad because this made the road harder for the Steelers. 472 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: He wanted to see Jake Browning twice like the one 473 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: guy whose name was not mentioned there. And that was 474 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: the big narrative coming out of what Tomlin said, is 475 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: he said Andrew Berry by name. He was not asked 476 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: about Andrew Berry. The words Andrew and Barry were not said. 477 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: The question simply was, hey, Mike, what's you think of 478 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: that trade? And he came out with that, And it 479 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: was just like Richardson with the Colts, Like Richardson caught 480 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: a stray, but that was a direct stray, if such 481 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: a thing makes sense. The guy who caught the stray 482 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: and all this was a guy who wasn't even mentioned. 483 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: And that's Browning. Because Tom Win ostensively he was telling 484 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: you we wanted to play that guy. We didn't want 485 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: to play Flaco. But Flacco isn't the Flacco of old. 486 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: This isn't Joe Flaco from the Ravens circa twenty ten 487 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: standing back in the pocket behind Jonathan Ogden and Marshall Yonda, 488 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: chucking it downfield and hitting thirty yard bombs and getting 489 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: pass interference penalties. This guy's throwing it as quick as 490 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is a lot of time now. Granted, if 491 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals are able to do to the Steelers pass 492 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: rush with the Steelers offensive line did to the Browns 493 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: pass rush out of nowhere, Flacco is gonna be dangerous 494 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: throwing to t Higgins and to Jamar Chase. Yes, but 495 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: I also agree with what Pursuda and Randy said on 496 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: the Morning Show today because I had this thought as 497 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: well as I'm listening to this. 498 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: Isn't he making too big of a deal at. 499 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: Joe fla Absolutely, Tim, I'm glad that this is where 500 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: he ended up. 501 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 4: Like, why are you spooking yourself right now? 502 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: Joe? Why are you so mady something? Joe Flacco? Why 503 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: are you so. 504 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: Mad about having to play Joe Flacco? All of a 505 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: sudden who cares like, yeah, it's flight. It used to 506 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: be a punchline around. It's a slight upgrade. And I 507 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: mean emphasis on the words slight. 508 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: This forty version, forty year old version of a quarterback 509 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: is not the forty year old version of the quarterback 510 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: that you have right now in Rodgers. It just is. 511 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 4: It's not even close. 512 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: And even Flacco when he was kind of an annoyance 513 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: and would beat the Steelers from time to time, was 514 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: nobody that you really feared. Like you said it was 515 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 3: a punchline. It was like, oh, it's Flacco. That's the 516 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: guy who threw the ball to Troy. I don't want 517 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: to lose to Flacco. That's embarrassing. Like we delegitimized him 518 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: the entire time he was in Baltimore. 519 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: The whole run up to the twenty fourteen playoffs, when 520 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: Leveon Bell was hurt, the talking point was, yeah, Lev's hurt. 521 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: That stinks. They're in a bad situation. But hey, what 522 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: are they gonna do? Lose it home to fly? 523 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 5: Oh? 524 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that sucks. 525 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: That kind of happened, didn't it. 526 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: It did. 527 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: He's obviously spooked too because of what happened a couple 528 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 3: of years ago in Indy when Flacco came in and 529 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: just tortured That was it last year, right, that that 530 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: happened in Indy? 531 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? Wow. 532 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: I still don't think that he got beat by Flacco. 533 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: I think he got beat by Stichan And that's my worry. 534 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: When the Colts game comes around, he's beating them with 535 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: three different quarterbacks, now, hasn't he? 536 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: Yes, I remember that right. I think you're correct. I 537 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: think Gardner Minshew was in there, Minshew. 538 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: Flacco and who was the other one? Do he lose 539 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: to Richardson? Maybe it was only two, but I digress. 540 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: Flacco torched him last year year and that's gotta be 541 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: fueling this is that great. I saw this picture last year. 542 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 3: Flack was gonna kill us. But you're right, it was 543 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: more stiking in the offense at that point. I mean, 544 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: you watched that Green Bay game or what you could 545 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 3: have when you were, you know, probably still at the 546 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: stadium wrapping things up after the Steelers game. Like he 547 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: was awful in the first half, he started to do 548 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: okay in the second half, started to connect with those 549 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: receivers a little bit more. 550 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 4: If your pass rush. 551 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin is what it was against Cleveland, and it 552 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 3: should be you paid a lot for it. There's no worry. 553 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 3: He's not gonna have any time to hit receivers twenty 554 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: yards down the field. 555 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: They're just not gonna everything's gonna have to be dump 556 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: offs and short stuff. 557 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: But mister don't. 558 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: Live in your fears. Is afraid of forty something year 559 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: old Joe Flacco. 560 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: He kind of lives in his feares a little bit 561 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: all the time. Happens a little bit. 562 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we all know it, but it does not 563 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: how he presents himself, of course, of course, but it 564 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: You can't tell me that there's not a little bit 565 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: of that happening here when it should just be. 566 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 3: Vibes are at an all time high. Feel good, we're 567 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: kicking quarterbacks ass. It doesn't matter who's back there. They 568 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 3: pressured Gabriel thirty two times, like even great quarterbacks are 569 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: gonna have a long day facing that. There's about like 570 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: three or four quarterbacks in this league that can swim 571 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: in those seas, those rough waters and be successful. Flack, 572 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: It's not one of them, never was. 573 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: Like the Browns have no obligation to do anything that 574 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers want. Like this whole thing about his football 575 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: sensitivity is being offended. 576 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: By this move? 577 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: Whatever? Like if if the Browns were in a position 578 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: where they were doing a fire sale and they wanted 579 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: to get rid of somebody and they wanted to give 580 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: that person to the Steelers, Like what if this? What 581 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: if the Browns had decided it's more advantageous for us 582 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: to take a pick from the Steelers and give them 583 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: Joe Hayden as opposed to cutting him, knowing that the 584 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: Steelers are gonna sign Joe Hayden, Like what would Thomas? 585 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: No, that's that's not how we do football in the 586 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: AFC North. I refuse to take Joe Hayden unless you 587 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: cut him, Like you. 588 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: Know what I mean. I know exactly what you mean, 589 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: because that's kind of what happened, is they cut them 590 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: and the Steelers swooped right in and scooped him up. 591 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: But you know, if they had if the Browns said, 592 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: we're done with this guy. We think it's better for 593 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: us to get a sixth. 594 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: Round pick for him. Hey, Pittsburgh, will you give him 595 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: to us? 596 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: Look, if you're upset or if your football sensitivities are 597 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: upset by management moves roster moves by the Cleveland Browns. 598 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 4: I mean, where have you been? 599 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: I mean they spit on your football sensitivities and your 600 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: football traditions all the time. They're a poorly run franchise. 601 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: I think it's stupid that they traded Flacco, not just 602 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: to the Bengals, but I think it's stupid that they 603 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: traded him because it's just Shador and Dylan Gabriel in 604 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: a quarterback room now trying to find their way through 605 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: this season. 606 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: Well, here's another thing where I think where Pluto might 607 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: have been right Church, wrong Pew, and that is I 608 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: do think that there's a coaching fraternity thing that's going 609 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: on here. And I don't know really what Tomlin thinks 610 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: of Kevin Stefanski as a guy, but I do have 611 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: a pretty strong sense that he doesn't like it with 612 00:27:54,520 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: GMS and when ownership overmanages a situation, and I'm sure everybody. 613 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: Can see is what's really happening here, right, And Mike 614 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: Tomlin knows not to say the name Jimmy Haslam at 615 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: a podium, So we'll throw Andrew Berry out. 616 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: There exactly, even though he might be a puppet for Haslam, 617 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: which is I think exactly what happened in and can 618 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: I give you another theory. I'll give you another theory 619 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: on this. My other theory about what has angered Tomlin 620 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: about this is not just one move from Barry. It's 621 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: not just Flacco that he traded that bothered Tomlin. This 622 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: is the same GM that reset the market for what 623 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are worth and what guaranteed money is all about 624 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson. And this is the guy that gave 625 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett all that money, and now the Steelers had 626 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: to give a ton of money. And Mike Tomlin knows 627 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: the back end of that contract looks like with TJ. Watt, 628 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: and he would have been willing to give TJ. Watt money, 629 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: but not that kind of money, but he had to 630 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: because of what Barry gave Miles Garrett after Miles Garrett 631 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: said I want out, So they just paid for his happiness. 632 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: That's a great point. 633 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: That's where I think all that is coming from. Those 634 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: are the seeds to this. And let me give you 635 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: another something. And this is a little behind the scenes, 636 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: and I might be speak you want me to break 637 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: and we'll do it. 638 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: Let's do it later. You're fired up, all right, I'll 639 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: do it when we come back. 640 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: There's a little behind the scenes about how that all 641 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: happened yesterday, and I'll give it to you when we 642 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: come back here on one O five nine The X. 643 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 7: It's The Woody Show weekday mornings at six. 644 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 6: Listen to the AX at home at worked anytime on 645 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 6: the iHeartRadio app one O five nine The X. 646 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: Time Now for your Tuesday bet. 647 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 4: MGM Baseball Buzz. 648 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 6: Tonight in Milwaukee Game two of the NLCS Brewers and Dodgers. 649 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 4: Dodgers held on to win Game one. 650 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: X Man of covers the Mark Madden Show, backed by 651 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: the personal expert injury experts of Shanderovitch, Shandorovitch and Fisherman. 652 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 2: They got your back, not your wallet, all right. 653 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: So tom I got off on a rant there regarding 654 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: the whole Joe Flacco commentary from Mike Tomlin yesterday about 655 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: the trade. 656 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: And so the backstory on this. 657 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: Is that I talked about before the break and I 658 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: heard this secondhand. I didn't witness this myself or anything 659 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 1: like that, but I was told that Tomlin had a 660 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, sort of a interpersonal reaction with a couple 661 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: reporters coming off the field after the Flacco trade was made, 662 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: Like you know, said something that indicated like why the 663 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: heck or how the heck did that happen? Or what 664 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: did they get? Did you hear what they got? That 665 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: sort of thing, just off the cuff reaction. Some reporters 666 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: that I know afterwards were like, Wow, they could tell 667 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: that Tom couldn't believe that that took place, and they 668 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: were getting ready to ask him, you know, like, but 669 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: I think it was a reporter who wasn't there that 670 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: just happened to lob the question out there of hey, 671 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: would you think of that trade? And the way it 672 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: was so open ended, it just allowed Tomlin to walk 673 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: through the door and give the exact answer that he 674 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: wanted to. And ironically, I wonder if someone of the 675 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: reporters that actually heard that exchange had asked if they 676 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: would have cooked the stew too much and said, what 677 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: do you think what Andrew Berry did there? And then 678 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: maybe Toman would have backed off, wouldn't have hit the 679 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: throttle as hard. But because the question was so open ended, 680 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: he walked right through the door and gave us six. 681 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: It was kind of like when I asked him about 682 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: taking the college job. He was ready for that too, apparently, 683 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: like I was told he was ready to give that 684 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: kind of response. After I asked him about the college job. 685 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: Perked up a little bit when the question actually came 686 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: exactly and I saw this one. 687 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw this one coming right. This is a 688 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: telegraph fastball down the middle. So now what should have 689 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: happened is at the end of that press conference on 690 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: his way out, when he said some of you guys 691 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: are really annoying me today, or whatever he said on 692 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: the way out, I should have said, Hey, Mike, one 693 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: more question. You're interested in the Penn State job. How 694 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: would that have gone over? 695 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 4: I wish you would have tim as a missed opportunity. 696 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's still a booster they can't write 697 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: a check big enough. What if that booster is Pogoula. 698 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: You think he can write a check big enough. I 699 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: think he can. 700 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: You should just become college coach guy when it comes 701 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: to Mike Tomlin, like every time he's a job, a 702 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: big job, that it's got to be a big one 703 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: an LSU a Penn State. 704 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: What if Penn State hires Nardusia and asked Tomlin about 705 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: going over to. 706 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: Pitt No, I want Franklin if that happens, so he 707 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: can play in the field when the field is better. 708 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 4: I don't want Tom and I want Franklin if that's 709 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 4: the case. 710 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: So if you're a Pit fan, and I know you are, 711 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: if Franklin were to get either the Virginia Tech or 712 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: the North Carolina job, if Belichick goes, what would you think? 713 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: Would you like that or hate that? As a would 714 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: hate that, would hate to be awful because you don't 715 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: want to lose to Franklin. Lose to Franklin, Well, he 716 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: would give it to you, guys. 717 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: But I also just don't want what I think would 718 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: become a really steady consistence, not power, but really good 719 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: team rising in the ACC, which is a conference that's 720 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 3: right for one of those teams to rise now because 721 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: of Clemson's down. 722 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: He's just got just enough bitterness toward Nardouzian Pit through 723 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: like some of the local recruiting wars. No question he 724 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: would have questioned victory is over Pitt, like North Carolina 725 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: beachs Pit. 726 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: North Carolina beats Pit, Virginia Tech beats Pit. 727 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: Whatever. 728 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: But here's the thing with Virginia Tech, he can kind 729 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: of get back into the old little like rivalry angled 730 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: to it too. With Franklin and Pitt because of the 731 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: old big East connection that they have together, Like it 732 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: would just not be good. But I think that's what's 733 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: gonna happen. I said yesterday. If I'm Virginia Tech, I'm 734 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: sprinting towards Franklin. I'm asking him, could he coach this weekend? 735 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: Could you just stand on the sidelines and hang out. 736 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I think Florida or Florida State. I 737 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: think it goes over better at Virginia Tech. 738 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: I think he would have Virginia Tech at the top 739 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 3: of the AEC in a couple of years because he 740 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: already kind of has the recruiting hotbed there on lock. 741 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: He would just move it to Virginia. 742 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: And really, unless you were to lose to Clemson every year, 743 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: which is entirely possible, he wouldn't have the whole You'll 744 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: lose all your big games because there's no big It. 745 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: Doesn't exist with Miami. Every once in a while Smu 746 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: sneaks up there. No, it doesn't matter. He'd be the 747 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: big game. Yes, great point, that is his big way. 748 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: Just seems like a perfect match, doesn't it. Like if 749 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: I'm Virginia Tech, I'm salivating over the opportunity. 750 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: Is that Front office sports story right about his offset language. 751 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: He has to search, he has to do for a job. 752 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 3: It's a weird thing to put into a contract. It's 753 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 3: a weird thing for a coach to agree to. 754 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: You. Maybe it's something that he gave in on because 755 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: he knew he couldn't stay away at his age, Like 756 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: he knew he was going to look anyway, So like, 757 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: if they fire me, I'm not gonna want to just 758 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: suit my paycheck. I would for a year, though, I 759 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: would for a year potentially. 760 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: Do you think he's gonna pop up on a desk 761 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 3: somewhere in a couple of months and then finish. 762 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: This season that count is looking for a job? That 763 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: said it said TV too? Oh said TV too? 764 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 3: And it would offset the salary with how much he 765 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 3: makes in the TV contract. 766 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 4: Do you see him doing. 767 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: Like hittings of what the annual salid it would be. 768 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: Do you think a studio job it would fit him 769 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 3: for like these next few months, then he jumps to Virginia. 770 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: Tech or he's full of bs anyway, so he'd be 771 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: great on two. He'd be great on it. Yeah, Like 772 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: do you think he'd be like he wouldn't do big 773 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: newon kickoff? Would he just kind of hang around the 774 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: Big ten. You gotta get a far away from the 775 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: Big ten as you can, oh, I mean like get 776 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: to the SEC network. Would too many chirpings? Yeah, you 777 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: gotta go to your vanity roots, go to the SEC net. 778 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: Like what if he was seriously, if he's on the 779 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: desk and they go to ann Arbor, if he's on 780 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: the desk and they can't this, he'd he'd just be 781 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: setting himself up. 782 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So maybe he just lays low until Virginia Tech 783 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: comes calling. Like I said, I'd have him on the 784 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: sideline this week. I'd be like, just hang out, just 785 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: be part of the Hoky nation for a little bit. 786 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 3: Please start recruiting Trifecta next year. On one to five 787 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: nine the X the. 788 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 7: Spirits Summer News to join us for the XS Halloween CRUs. 789 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: On Thursday, October thirtieth. 790 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 7: The coup sets sale at eight pm with live music 791 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 7: from the Klinton's playing all your nineties favorites. 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Favorite 809 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: things about being sick. I guess you could. 810 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: Say favorite things about being sick. 811 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: And we're talking about of course, you know, when you 812 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: just have the sore throats, the nose, stuffy, just can't 813 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: get out of bed, nothing serious. Number three, the night 814 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 3: quill naps, Oh so good, so good, Just a nice 815 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 3: drug induced coma over the counter, of course, drug induced coma. 816 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: Do you prefer the liquid? Nike will or do you 817 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: prefer pills Nike will? 818 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: I do prefer the liquid Nike wuill and I like 819 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: to put a jolly rancher at the bottom of it. 820 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 4: Oh, so you go, red Nipel No, I do like 821 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 4: the red nicqul. 822 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rednike. Well not the green Nicke. 823 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: I always thought it was purple, but sure we can 824 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: call okay, Well, I am colorblind, so keep that in mind. 825 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: I thought it was green. No, pearls are green. The 826 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: nighttime pills are green, and then the daytime ones are orange. 827 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 3: At the daytime o orange for sure. I just like 828 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 3: that nice coating, you know what I mean that like. 829 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: The alcohol burn and pretend that I just took a 830 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: shot of whiskey, Like, do one of those after you're 831 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: done with it? 832 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 4: Number two? 833 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 3: For me, it's gonna be just you know, the chicken 834 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 3: noodle soup, the Gatorade. Love pounding a couple of Gatorades 835 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 3: when I'm sick. They just hit so good sitting next 836 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: to your bedstand a little lukewarm. 837 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 4: Sometimes. 838 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 2: What's solid food? 839 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 3: What solid comfort food do you like when you're You 840 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 3: don't count chicken noodle soup as that. No, it's a soup, 841 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: I guess noodles in there, and sure, but it's not 842 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 3: solid food. 843 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: It's a soup. 844 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 3: Solid food when I'm sick, when I'm feeling a little, cheese, eh, 845 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 3: if the stomach's a problem, you gotta kind of avoid 846 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 3: ba though. But otherwise, yeah, gri cheese isn't a terrible thing, 847 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 3: which is like a bagel something like that. 848 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: Oh, if you're puking, then yeah, you just won't touch 849 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 2: the cheese. 850 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 851 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 3: Ginger ale, yes, Oh, ginger ail is a huge key 852 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: or sprite chips. 853 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 2: I remember I used to get that all the time 854 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: when I was a kid. 855 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: When I was sick, my mom would put ice chips 856 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: in sprite and then give them to me. 857 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: I like a good bagel. 858 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 3: As far as the solid food is concerned, though, the 859 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: number one thing that you do when you're sick is 860 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: you just binge a movie trilogy, Lord of the Rings, 861 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 3: Dark Knight. Those are go tos for me. Maybe Back 862 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: to the Future. It doesn't have to be a trilogy either, 863 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: if you just have a favorite movie you want to 864 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 3: go to, but it's you know, something that you have 865 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 3: seen so much tim that your pass out beautifully said, 866 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 3: I'm right back in Godfather. I just exited Batman begins, 867 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: and now I'm towards the end of Dark Knight, but 868 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 3: I know exactly what happened. 869 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: You gotta watch that version of The Godfather where they 870 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: chop it up sequentially, so they actually just start in 871 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: the el of Godfather too, and then you just because 872 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: you can pass out in and out of it the 873 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: whole time. Yes, it's perfect rip. Diane Keaton, by the way, 874 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: I know I thought she was older than that. Do 875 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: you know I met her? 876 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 4: She winked at me, Tim, That's right, the original k 877 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 4: Adams winked at you. 878 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: She did. 879 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: I met her in New York. Why didn't meet her? 880 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: She just winked at me when she walked by. Who's 881 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: the better k Adams? The original and the godfather of 882 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: this one? 883 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 4: Right now? That does NFL media? 884 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: I met her too. She's a lotch Diane Keat was 885 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 2: tall like she was listed five sevens, but I think 886 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 2: she was taller that. She looked like she was like 887 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 2: five foot ten. 888 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: Who's taller her? 889 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel a Dylan Gabriel by about a half an inch. 890 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers would have been nicer to the 891 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: dying ed Keaton. Yeah, I don't think they would have 892 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: thrown her around quite as much as they did Dylan Gabriel. 893 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: Well there was a time, tim all right, we come 894 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: back in just thirty seconds. We're gonna get into a 895 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: little bit more of the Steelers being the fifth best 896 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: team in all the National Football League. Boy, how the 897 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: standards have shifted. We're we're like, we're fifth best. We're 898 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: fifth best. It's not even fourth place for crying out 899 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: loud one oh five nine, The X