WEBVTT - Scott Sloan with Kyle Moran -- 1/19/26

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be in American start floating on

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<v Speaker 1>this MLK day on seven hundred Wow, more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>about nine thirty five feels kind of hollow to me

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<v Speaker 1>here in Cincinnati anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not the rest they came here, but here in Cinty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll explain why I'm momentarily first though TERRFF related stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Announcement just came out. Canada has cut tariffs on Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>made electric vehicles, so kind of an end around there

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<v Speaker 2>on the United States because the ongoing tariff war, and

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of which, over the weekend, the President threatened tariffs

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<v Speaker 2>on eight NATO allies unless the deal has reached for

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<v Speaker 2>US to buy Greenland, which leaves a lot of US

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<v Speaker 2>scratching our head. And also the United States Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>last week we're expected to they never tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to rule on when, but last week or

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<v Speaker 2>expecting a decision maybe on whether the Trump tariffs are legal.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the Ice Supreme Court, they have kicked the

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<v Speaker 2>can down the least till next time. We'll find out.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be weeks away at this point, we're not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But all this comes together as costs continue to just

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<v Speaker 2>be stubborn with inflation and everything else in tariff's a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that for sure. On that is Kyle Moran,

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<v Speaker 2>our friend from Young Voices, welcome back, How you been.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good, Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, appreciate it. So the big issue here as we

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<v Speaker 2>debate tariffs and if they're effective or not, is that

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<v Speaker 2>the President invoked the Powers Act and designed for a

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<v Speaker 2>national security crisis like wars or terrorism or seizing assets

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<v Speaker 2>things like that, to impose trade tarffs on China. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a misuse of emergency powers because that's what the

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<v Speaker 2>High Court is going to decide here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it basically is guaranteed to be some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>abuse of overreach in terms of the emergency powers granted

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<v Speaker 3>to him through that Act, because from day one when

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<v Speaker 3>he rolled these out, he was already exempting very specific

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<v Speaker 3>industries that are economically important because he knows the impact

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<v Speaker 3>that tariff would have on those would be detrimental to

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<v Speaker 3>the United States. But critically this shows that it's not

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<v Speaker 3>based on national security. When he's exempting cowper, pharmaceuticals, semiconductors,

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<v Speaker 3>all these other types of materials from the tariffs, then

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<v Speaker 3>what is it What is he even tariffing a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of it is a lot less important goods that we're importing,

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<v Speaker 3>So therefore it's not based on national security, which he

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<v Speaker 3>himself has sort of admitted very at various times. He

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<v Speaker 3>has gone on record as saying it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>used to pay down the national debt, to do now,

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<v Speaker 3>to do these stimulus checks as a source of revenue

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<v Speaker 3>rather than as a national security concern.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that is a concern too. It's just purely

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<v Speaker 2>on a revenue standpoint. And so far we've had some

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<v Speaker 2>indication that the conservative justices are even pushing back on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Amy Cony Barrett and Justice Chief Justice Rod John Roberts

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<v Speaker 2>said that the vehicle is in position of taxes on

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<v Speaker 2>Americans and that has always been a core power of Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>Those early indication certainly don't indicate how they're going to vote,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's been time to I've thrown that out. They're

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<v Speaker 2>challenging it. But that if you're looking at the tea

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<v Speaker 2>lives here, it doesn't bode well for this.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't, because like I was, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>so much of this has not even been like the

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<v Speaker 3>oppositions criticizing the administration, but the administration undermining its own position.

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<v Speaker 3>So it really does. It does get into some tricky

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<v Speaker 3>legal battles for the administration to keep this standing. But

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<v Speaker 3>I have, I do have to step back and think

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<v Speaker 3>these powers were passed to be very limited in times

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<v Speaker 3>of in terms of actual concerns to national security. We

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<v Speaker 3>have reached a point where Congress has ceded so much

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<v Speaker 3>power to the executive. The point of passing that Act

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen seventy seven was never to institute broad sweeping

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<v Speaker 3>powers for the executives to just simply impose and pull

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<v Speaker 3>off and impose more care really nilly. That was not

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<v Speaker 3>what it was for. It's not what it is for now,

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<v Speaker 3>and the country is not designed to be run by

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who has essentially more and more unlimited power for

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<v Speaker 3>four years before election.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Supreme Court rules against these terroriffs, does that

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<v Speaker 2>then call in the re examination of the executive order

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<v Speaker 2>power the part of the presidency and executive I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw Biden and the autopen do it with impunity,

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<v Speaker 2>and Trump said, well, here, hold my diet coke, watch

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<v Speaker 2>me make a bunch of executive orders. In Congress has

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely no They're feckless, right, I mean, you can shut

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<v Speaker 2>the government down for forty something days over god knows what.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't really pass any and come to conclusion other

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<v Speaker 2>than releasing the Epstein files because it covers their asses.

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<v Speaker 2>But does this change then how we how we maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that the Congress actually is forced to do their job.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not optimistic on that. I it will limit the

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<v Speaker 3>executive in terms of being able to do this on again,

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<v Speaker 3>off again charade, which has reached incredible levels where it's

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<v Speaker 3>literally back in April and May, it was every day

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<v Speaker 3>you would open the news, new tariff and then one

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<v Speaker 3>of those tariffs was canceled, and then the next day

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<v Speaker 3>more tariff. So that type of stuff would be much

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<v Speaker 3>harder for future executives. But to your point about Biden

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<v Speaker 3>with the auto pen and all these things, Congress has

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<v Speaker 3>essentially feeded, like I said, so much of its own

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<v Speaker 3>power to the executive on a broad range of issues.

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<v Speaker 3>The Supreme Court doesn't have the ability to step in

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<v Speaker 3>and say Congress needs to do this. It can say

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<v Speaker 3>that the President doesn't have the ability himself to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>but it can't make Congress do its job. And certainly,

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<v Speaker 3>as we have seeing, Congress can't make Congress do its

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<v Speaker 3>own job. So we are in an unfortunate position there,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not gone through them that will see much

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<v Speaker 3>of an improvement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I'm hoping anyway, uh, Cale Moran that if

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<v Speaker 2>the if the Supreme Court rolls against him with tariffs,

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<v Speaker 2>which we'll get in the repercussions of that in a second,

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<v Speaker 2>but on a bigger scale, and that is limiting executive

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<v Speaker 2>office powers and executive branch powers. That there's a roadblock there,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other one is going to be Venezuela at

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<v Speaker 2>some point, I imagine you know that's going to come

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<v Speaker 2>to some sort of fruition here, but relative to the

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<v Speaker 2>ninety billion collected, that is another big problem there. The

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<v Speaker 2>of course the money's coming back in, but it would

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<v Speaker 2>there be a refund and how would that even work?

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<v Speaker 3>That is an excellent question because this is something on

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<v Speaker 3>this scale that's never been attempted before. So if these

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<v Speaker 3>are stripped down, there would have to be refunds. But

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<v Speaker 3>depending on when this actually happens, depending on if the

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<v Speaker 3>government has spent this money. Trump is already eyeing using

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<v Speaker 3>those funds for these two thousand dollars stimulus checks, which

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't even be enough to cover those by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>but it would create a very unprecedented situation. We would

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<v Speaker 3>have to see exactly how this plays out, But to

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<v Speaker 3>answer your question, yes, they would have to be refunded well.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other element here is if we have a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight trillion dollar deficit, why are we handing out

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand dollars checks which seems like it was light

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<v Speaker 2>years ago and I was proposed, but again, nothing ever dies.

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<v Speaker 2>I think more than that though, the idea we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to spend seven hundred billion on buying greenland. We got

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<v Speaker 2>the money and the count for that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, which is part of the issue here. Again. We

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<v Speaker 3>saw the impact back under the Biden administration incredibly big

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<v Speaker 3>spending and money printing in twenty twenty one, which drove

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<v Speaker 3>inflation up to nine percent, and we are still feeling

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<v Speaker 3>the results of that. We're still feeling the impact of

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<v Speaker 3>that for almost five years on now. So when the

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<v Speaker 3>inflation goes up like that, it never comes down again.

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<v Speaker 3>The inflation rate at which is increase may come down,

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<v Speaker 3>but the prices that went up they're just there and

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<v Speaker 3>you're stuck with that. You will never see twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>prices for a lot of goods again. And that's the

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunate reality of the money system that we have now,

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<v Speaker 3>where we just print more and more, and almost certainly

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<v Speaker 3>we would have to print a considerable amount of money

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<v Speaker 3>to make these two thousand dollars checks happen. And then

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<v Speaker 3>on top of that, Trump hates the current Federal Reserve

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<v Speaker 3>chairge your own Powell, who's not flallaced by any means,

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<v Speaker 3>but he wants to replace them with somebody who's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be even more dubbish and turn the money printers

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<v Speaker 3>back on and just print print.

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<v Speaker 2>As someone who is I guess more libertarian than anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just dis trust government top to bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>my team, your team. Kind of nonsense. There's an hypocrisy

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<v Speaker 2>test here, right, So how many Republicans who absolutely celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>the tariffs and all this and the bombing of ships

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<v Speaker 2>off Venezuela would they be outrage of a Democratic president

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<v Speaker 2>of this sen I mean, look at this one. We

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the Affordable Care Act, which is they're right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's subsidy. You're taking taxpayer money to give other people

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<v Speaker 2>a break on their healthcare. Healthcare is to damn expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do something the lower the cost of healthcare, as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to just giving aid to people and redistributing wealth.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work. It's too expensive, it's not a four.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make it affordable, it makes it less affordable.

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<v Speaker 2>Subsidy does using that same logic, And I'm right about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans should be talking about what we're doing here with

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and be equally outraged that now we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take money that could go pay off the deficit and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to give people subsidies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and to your point, the healthcare situation is something

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<v Speaker 3>the GOP has basically ignored for the last no course

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<v Speaker 3>a decade minimum, and at this point it's reaching a

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<v Speaker 3>breaking point where they just can't ignore it anymore. They

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<v Speaker 3>tried to appeal and replace obamac here in twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen, it went down in pretty famous ways, and

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<v Speaker 3>the deal they wanted to pass is not a great

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<v Speaker 3>deal to begin with. But ever since then, they just

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<v Speaker 3>haven't tried much of anything. And the only people talking

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<v Speaker 3>about healthcare reform now are the progressive And that's a

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<v Speaker 3>very dangerous situation because when people when people see that

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<v Speaker 3>their health career costs are skyrocketing, which they are, uh

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<v Speaker 3>and the only people even talking about it are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be AOC and Bernie Sanders like that is how

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<v Speaker 3>you wind up with people like Zar Mombami is mayor,

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<v Speaker 3>even though he doesn't have direct control over health care.

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<v Speaker 3>People just hear these things from the left and resonate

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<v Speaker 3>with it, and not illegitimately either because they they they

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<v Speaker 3>cannot afford these crazy surge surges in these pranceses. So

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<v Speaker 3>the got really needs to get going on healthcare.

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<v Speaker 2>The Democrats plan is, here's groupon we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the lower cost on your healthcare. We're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>someone else's money and give it to you. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a plan. That is just a band aid.

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<v Speaker 3>Is what that does?

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<v Speaker 2>It make things worse, not better in the long run.

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<v Speaker 2>Look what the subsidies done to the college industry. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>college is out of control because the substet it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. And then I look at the Republicans and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been fifteen years. They have no answer on this.

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<v Speaker 2>All I hear is well, eat better. Well, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>eat better, but don't take tail and all okay, great,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've got cancer now and I can't afford it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take the subsidy. That's that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>faced with.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, it's it's absolute madness. And the talking points

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<v Speaker 3>that they use for some of it is are legitimate.

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<v Speaker 3>So when they were talking about not wanting any illegal

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<v Speaker 3>immigrants to be on government subside healthcare, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>legitimate concern. But that is not addressing the issue that

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<v Speaker 3>millions of American suits and are seeing their healthcare costs

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<v Speaker 3>go up more than double, sometimes triple over the last

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<v Speaker 3>several years. Myself, I have seen mine go up more

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<v Speaker 3>than in doubles over the last four years. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is this is unsustainable, and nobody on the right is

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<v Speaker 3>even talking about it, let alone at proposing real plans

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<v Speaker 3>on it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was supposed to make America great again,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think healthcare is certainly a cornerstone of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and to some degree, people like Marjorie Taylor Greener are

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<v Speaker 2>accurate on that one too. Let's focus on this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. You've had fifteen years to come up with

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<v Speaker 2>a plan, and there's no plan at this point. It's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but platitudes, is what I'm getting. He is a

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<v Speaker 2>comic go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>People on the right have been attacking her over this,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm thinking to myself, this is this is madness.

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<v Speaker 3>I find it incredible. I'm raising Marjorie Taylor Green of

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<v Speaker 3>all people, but she is absolutely right about this, and

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<v Speaker 3>I respect her for her courage and standing up to

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<v Speaker 3>people who are otherwise just burying their heads in the

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<v Speaker 3>stands and suspending all is well, it's not, and I

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<v Speaker 3>respect the fact that she's addressing it.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a common ran political analyst and young voice,

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<v Speaker 2>a senior contributor, and talking about tariffs now before the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court and they will decide whether not these are

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<v Speaker 2>illegal or not. If it's a no go. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about refunding money to these countries. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, you look at getting China to

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<v Speaker 2>the table to kind of negotiate, look at some of

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<v Speaker 2>the deals done with other countries. Would it be tough

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<v Speaker 2>for the Supreme Court done do all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well? In terms of executive the president negotiating with foreign countries,

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<v Speaker 3>he certainly has pretty broad powers there. But the issue

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<v Speaker 3>is that he is currently arguing that the tariffs are

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<v Speaker 3>for national security and in no small part using that

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<v Speaker 3>as leverage. But the issue is that he has also

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<v Speaker 3>made so many other statements as well as other people

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<v Speaker 3>in his administration making other statements that directly undermine that argument,

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<v Speaker 3>because on one day the case what we made that

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<v Speaker 3>we need tariff to protect American industry. The next day

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<v Speaker 3>it will be that tariffs I needed as a temporary

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<v Speaker 3>measure to get other countries to lower their tariffs on up.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the day after that it will be that

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<v Speaker 3>we need tariffs to generate revenues that we can pay

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<v Speaker 3>off our debt. Yeah. Yeah, So nobody, the administration's position

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<v Speaker 3>on this changes on the daily and it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a very challenging hill for the administration to climb,

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<v Speaker 3>given how all over the places has been.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's almost like corporate America in a way. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, we live quarter to quarter. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about tomorrow. We just care about the bottom line today,

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<v Speaker 2>and we might cut our nose off to spite our face,

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<v Speaker 2>but damn it, we got to do that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's now that's permeated to politics to agree. If

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it, is if this is allowed, you

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<v Speaker 2>want and you know, Republicans will celebrate this big win

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<v Speaker 2>by the Supreme Court and the tariffs can stand. The

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<v Speaker 2>present can do that, Okay, great, but I want of

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<v Speaker 2>the same people will be yelling and angry about this

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<v Speaker 2>in the future next year or five years or eight whenever,

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<v Speaker 2>and at some point a Democrat will be back in

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<v Speaker 2>charge and maybe they go, hey, you know what, climate

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<v Speaker 2>change is an economic emergency. We're going to impost carbon

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<v Speaker 2>tariffs exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why this whole system was set up not

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<v Speaker 3>to be just as a way we're currently experiencing it,

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<v Speaker 3>because we are. If you have a country in which

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<v Speaker 3>you have radical changes of national policy every four years,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to go through these wild whiplashes of moving

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<v Speaker 3>to the right for one administration moving to the west,

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<v Speaker 3>and the other administration. And this will happen to some

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<v Speaker 3>extent no matter what the system is, because the executive

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<v Speaker 3>does have some power. But it was never designed to

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<v Speaker 3>be this wild swing between Biden comes into office and

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<v Speaker 3>because he's president, he can do all of these far

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<v Speaker 3>left things and open the border and at least ten

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<v Speaker 3>million illegal immigrants, which nobody voted for. Nobody voted in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty to open the ordering the ten million people

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<v Speaker 3>into the country. That was not part of the campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>It just happened with no input from the American electorate.

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<v Speaker 3>But despite widespread opposition to it. It just continued for

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<v Speaker 3>three and a half years before he even really tried

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<v Speaker 3>to address it. Then Trump comes in. Nobody voted. I

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<v Speaker 3>do not seriously believe that anyone really voted for such

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<v Speaker 3>high parents on other countries. People may, as he did

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it during the campaign to his credit on that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I really don't think that this is much of

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<v Speaker 3>a huge point that people ended up voting on. So

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<v Speaker 3>these massive swings are just detrimental to the stability of

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<v Speaker 3>our country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are checks and balances and we need them

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<v Speaker 2>and this will this definitely will decide. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>huge case before the court. He is a calmran with

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<v Speaker 2>the young voices. Thanks again, Kyle, great stuff, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much for having me cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Canada just announcing they're going to cut tariffs on

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese electric vehicles, so it kind of cuts America out

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. A little bit anyway, and Trump's as

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<v Speaker 2>we wait for the court to decide the thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we started this conversation back in November. If I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not mistaken, he threatened tariff's on eight NATO allies unless

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<v Speaker 2>we get a deal over Greenland, and so it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to get a news update down this a MLK

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<v Speaker 2>day back with that topic actually and why it means

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<v Speaker 2>a little less this year here in Cincinnati. Maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>lot less anyway, Explain next seven hundred ww