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Speaker 1: Nine to noon. Time for Tim morettle fowl.

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Speaker 2: I know right, good stuff, border battle Fox.

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Speaker 1: He's the dagger, He's the dagger, and there we go.

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Speaker 1: Paul begins with the dagger.

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Speaker 3: Here's a snack wasting sets most let's side of the

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Speaker 3: ends of.

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Speaker 4: Second by the kid, Oh have been Williams the levers

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Speaker 4: and the left corner of the ends out and the

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Speaker 4: Packers deliver the Taggers defensively a rare interception, just one

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Speaker 4: in the last six weeks. And Evan Williams that should

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Speaker 4: do it his.

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Speaker 1: Gore dagger Dagger.

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Speaker 5: Time to start nine to noon on KFA, and it's

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Speaker 5: Wayne Larravie, play by play voice of the Green Bay

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Speaker 5: Packers Lambeau noon four and six travels to play six

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Speaker 5: three and one, and the box joins us. Now, Wayne,

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Speaker 5: how have you been and are you enjoying the season?

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Speaker 3: I've been good, Paul for the most part. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 3: been good. The season's been up and down, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's that's NFL football, and it has been enjoyable.

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Speaker 5: Now you've called twenty six and a half, you've all

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Speaker 5: twenty six and a half years of Packers football, and

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Speaker 5: all with analysts. Larry mccaren, who started four years before you. Larry,

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Speaker 5: for those who don't know, is in the Packers Hall

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Speaker 5: of Fame and for his work at center.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day.

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Speaker 5: Just a question I've wanted to ask you forever, and

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Speaker 5: I probably should ask Larry, but I'll ask you anyway.

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Speaker 5: How did his fingers get permanently bent and mangled?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it happened during his playing days, and you know,

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Speaker 3: he just decided. I guess he could have gotten it

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of a distinctive trait for.

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Speaker 5: Him quarter century plus working with Larry, who's the analyst?

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Speaker 5: What do you enjoy about working with Larry?

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Speaker 3: He's great. You know, he's a man's man. The thing

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Speaker 3: I like he brings kind of a calmness to the

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Speaker 3: broadcast in that, Yeah, things look like they're going off

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Speaker 3: the rail, and I might react, and yet he'll sit

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Speaker 3: back and he realizes, because of his experience as a

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Speaker 3: player and longtime analyst, that you know, the game has

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Speaker 3: ebbs and flows. It will go up and down, and

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Speaker 3: you know, one team will look good for a while

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Speaker 3: and the other team will battle back. It's just the

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Speaker 3: way the NFL is and He's been great to work

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Speaker 3: with over the years. You know, we're different kinds of people.

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Speaker 3: We don't hang out a lot, but we do have

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Speaker 3: something in common. We never go to dinner together, but

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Speaker 3: we usually on the road end up at dinner. If

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Speaker 3: not go together, but I'll end up going and he'll

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Speaker 3: already be there with a place at the bar and

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Speaker 3: probably have his stake already served.

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Speaker 5: Has Larry ever gotten so excited he was the one

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Speaker 5: who actually did the dagger call during a Packers win.

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Speaker 3: No, he hasn't gone that far, but he does react,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's good as long as it's you know,

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Speaker 3: reacts to something good or bad that happens on the field.

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Speaker 3: But he hasn't gone as far as taking the dagger yet.

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Speaker 3: He suggested I throw the tecker, but he hasn't really

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Speaker 5: Now, last Larry mccaron question, and we'll talk about the

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Speaker 5: border battle with Wayne Laravy played by play voice for

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Speaker 5: the Green Bay Packers. When when Larry interviews Lafleur after games,

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Speaker 5: is is that before the press conference because those chats

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know they are. It's when Lafleur is on

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Speaker 3: to the press conference with the media. But you're right

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Speaker 3: in at some points against especially heeded battles, that type

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Speaker 3: of thing and disappointing losses. Yeah, you're getting the raw

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Speaker 3: from both Larry and Matt Lafleur. And you know, before

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Speaker 3: he's really had a chance almost to compose his thoughts

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Speaker 3: for the media. The media scrum that follows, but very

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Speaker 3: they're not easy to do, especially after games where things

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Speaker 5: Right, all right, So what do you think of the team?

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Speaker 5: Do you think this team's good enough to get to

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Speaker 3: I think the Packers are a lot a lot like

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Speaker 3: they're still evolving, and you know, the injury factors usually

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Speaker 3: that's hard to overcome, so you know they have to

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Speaker 3: get there in a different way. But right now, PA,

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Speaker 3: I would say they're like a lot of other teams,

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Speaker 3: interesting to see which way they go up or down,

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Speaker 3: because you know what, you're never going to stay the

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Speaker 3: many times, you're either getting better or you're getting worse.

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Speaker 3: And that's what the next month than a hamper about.

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Speaker 1: Hey hey, Wayne, has anything changed with edgering Cooper while

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Speaker 3: Would say not really, although the thing that they aren't

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Speaker 3: But the whole thing with Michael Parson's PA was they

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Speaker 3: have blitzed Cooper a little bit more and he's been

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Speaker 3: A gap. They do some of that, but not as

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Speaker 5: in the Sunday Parsons Michael Parsons eight sacks and ten games.

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Speaker 5: So how much does he change things for the defense?

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Speaker 3: I think he allows them to do what they intended

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Speaker 3: on the quarterback. Earlier this season he was making Rashaan

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Speaker 3: Gary a much better player than he has been over

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, It's interesting his game and I've

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Speaker 3: actually got more snaps in New Jersey than did Rashawn

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Speaker 3: But it might have been just flow. The game might

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Speaker 3: I think Rashan Gary I look for this week him

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Speaker 5: And it seems from a far Wayne that you guys

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Speaker 5: could get Lucas van Nest back this week too, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There's a possibility of that. I think he was close

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Speaker 3: Lucas was playing real well in another one of those

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Speaker 3: But the other thing, he does a little better than

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Speaker 5: at one point, Wayne, the Vikings had used seventeen different

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Speaker 5: to Elton Jenkins because he's absolutely one of the best

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a great offensive lineman. He was struggling a

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Speaker 3: little bit with the conversion to center. But you have

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Speaker 3: they move him over to center. I think there was

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Speaker 3: his bad moments, and hopefully he'll have some good moments

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Speaker 1: Dagger.

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Speaker 5: After that loss to Cleveland then the home run to Carolina,

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Speaker 5: it nationally really got loud. Green Bay can beat anybody

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Speaker 3: An extent, I do. And the way this season has gone, yeah,

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Speaker 3: That game should should not have been closed. I mean,

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Speaker 3: But you know, Cleveland turned on an interception late on

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Speaker 3: play bad play, as Laflour said, he called a bad play.

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Speaker 3: The pass was made, they tried to thread the needle,

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Speaker 7: I do have a couple of questions off of your

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Speaker 5: Well, it has to be a lot because he's really

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Speaker 5: the field or a double move and you sell it

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Speaker 5: the right way. All right, you're probably going to get open.

438
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Speaker 5: But we're far in the equation now for a first

439
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 5: round pick to not have any touchdowns. Now Williams third

440
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 5: round or TCU, he only has one. The thing they're

441
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 5: trying to do is they got a touchdown last game

442
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Speaker 5: from Josh Wyler, a free agent they got from Tennessee.

443
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 5: They also have a fourth year guy from Georgia named

444
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Speaker 5: John Fitzpatrick. Those are the two mostly filling in for Craft,

445
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 5: but they just can't get Luke Muskgrave going. I mean

446
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 5: Luke Muskgrave has zero touchdowns in right around two years. Yeah,

447
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 5: so they're trying to figure that thing out. Get the

448
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Speaker 5: first round rookie to start impacting the game as much

449
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Speaker 5: as the third round rookie.

450
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Speaker 7: Mike's Mike's thank you thousand hills to the injury report.

451
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 7: We go, by the way, like half the Packers team

452
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 7: is on the injury report. They you got Hobbes, who

453
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Speaker 7: even when he's healthy, he really hasn't been a factor

454
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Speaker 7: for them.

455
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Speaker 1: Now he's inactive these days.

456
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Speaker 7: And in Jacobs we mentioned Kuay Walker, Carl Brooks, but

457
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Speaker 7: on our side of things, A couple of things to

458
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Speaker 7: look forward to. The Thursday report will tell us a

459
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Speaker 7: ton about whether Jonathan Grenard is making progress towards playing

460
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Speaker 7: on Sunday with the shoulder issue.

461
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Speaker 1: But how about Ryan Kelly, my friend?

462
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Speaker 7: A full part two DiPT in yesterday's practice, So anticipating

463
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Speaker 7: restructured helmet guardian cap that Ryan Kelly and save for

464
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 7: anything that happens in practice the next two days. For

465
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Speaker 7: the first time, I believe in twenty twenty five, Pa,

466
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Speaker 7: unless you correct me, this will be the first time

467
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Speaker 7: that we're actually getting our preferred starting five to begin

468
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Speaker 7: a game.

469
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Speaker 1: It is because I believe there was school the first two.

470
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Speaker 7: Then you got Darrisaw, but we got concussion clomp with

471
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Speaker 7: Ryan Kelly and then O'Neil I believe has missed time.

472
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Speaker 7: I mean just the ins and outs. Welcome back Ryan Kelly. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 7: he's obviously excited to retake the field. But maybe the

474
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Speaker 7: first time we've seen our preferred starting five all year.

475
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Speaker 5: We'll get to see it at Lambeau. Yeah, I gotta

476
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Speaker 5: believe it's in every down sweat with Ryan Kelly. Yeah,

477
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Speaker 5: I mean good to hav ingim back, big powerful guy.

478
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Speaker 5: O'Connell keeps saying he's kicking down the barn door to

479
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Speaker 5: get out on the track. I believe that to be true.

480
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Speaker 5: He's compensated to play. He's one of the ones who

481
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 5: wants to play and earn his money, and he's very

482
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 5: very physical. You got both your running backs and CJ.

483
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Speaker 1: Ham.

484
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Speaker 5: So when you have Jackson Kelly, I don't think Fries

485
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Speaker 5: practiced yesterday, but I don't think it's anything significant. And

486
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 5: then you've got Darisa on O'Neill. Well that that right there,

487
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 5: that Minnesota moving company is supposed to move man and

488
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Speaker 5: afford you the opportunity to run not only between the tackles,

489
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 5: but set up to play action for the kid. Ryan's

490
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: very very physical. Now, he got the most recent concussion

491
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Speaker 5: in Dublin when his head hit the knee of a stealer.

492
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Speaker 5: So you know, like I say, I got to believe

493
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Speaker 5: it's seriously, with all due respect, it has to be

494
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Speaker 5: a down by down sweat because I think he's had

495
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Speaker 5: ten of them. You've already lost him one time this year,

496
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Speaker 5: and and those things. Those things are tricky. It's just

497
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Speaker 5: concussions are just so strange because they can have them

498
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Speaker 5: go in protocol. But like you know, that night in

499
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Speaker 5: Dublin outside the team hotel. You know, we're talking four

500
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Speaker 5: or five hours after the game. You know, I see

501
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 5: Ryan Kelly with friends and family members, you know, just

502
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 5: being normal talking and doing stuff like that. But it's like, wow, man,

503
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 5: he just had a really bad concussion. I just learned

504
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 5: he previously had nine. Yeah, we're sitting there talking normally.

505
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: They're just strange, you know what I mean.

506
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, of course it's strange.

507
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 7: I mean I think about like Isaiah Rodgers in the

508
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 7: Bears game, right, I mean, he takes that hit you

509
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 7: and the way it looks specifically and slow motion makes

510
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 7: everything looks so much worse, right, but he goes to

511
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 7: the blue tent, comes back onto the field. Meanwhile, you

512
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 7: you mentioned it, I think, whether we were at TCO

513
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Speaker 7: or even on Monday, like you hear about Jackson Dart,

514
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Speaker 7: Well you're excited about the future of Jackson Dart. You

515
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 7: also find out wait a minute, is he said three

516
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 7: or four concussions this season?

517
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: Like what's that? Or that can't be good?

518
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 7: And so just kind of how individualized it is via

519
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 7: the moment, how individualized it is via the specific player,

520
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 7: the intricacies of a it. We've we've watched some horrific

521
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 7: moments with a two a tongue of ioloa. We've also

522
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Speaker 7: seen some guys find their way through entire careers, uh

523
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 7: putting their head down and making contact and never finding

524
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Speaker 7: themselves in that spot.

525
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: So so unpredictable, so weird.

526
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just want Kelly to be healthy, and you

527
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 7: got to trust that he's, you know, on his own behalf.

528
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 7: He gets to make these choices that he's back out

529
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 7: there and right that play by place sweat will continue.

530
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Speaker 5: I'm glad you said that at the end about he

531
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Speaker 5: gets to make the choice when he returns from the

532
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Speaker 5: concussion despite being cleared X amount of days weeks, I

533
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Speaker 5: have no idea. Van ginkel neck despite being cleared X

534
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 5: amount of days weeks, got no idea. Maybe he was

535
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Speaker 5: cleared one minute before he actually came back and started.

536
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 5: It's when when when you're talking about young men in

537
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Speaker 5: a violent game and their brains and or their necks,

538
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: and you know they're they're not chicken bleeps in any

539
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: way for being has tint about potentially what's coming because

540
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 5: you're not you don't put fear over faith, and you

541
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Speaker 5: know execute your toil and chicken in chicken like fashion

542
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 5: and get that far if you truly are scared. There's

543
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Speaker 5: a difference between scared and and just being smart with

544
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 5: how you know your body, mind, neck or whatever feels.

545
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 5: So like, if Ryan Kelly and or Andrew Van Ginko

546
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 5: couldn't get themselves over the hump to get out there

547
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 5: and play this violent game with brain and or neck injuries,

548
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 5: I would completely understand bikes bikes.

549
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 7: Hey, we made it fifteen minutes into vikes bites without

550
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 7: talking about the QB. But there are a couple of

551
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 7: things I wanted to play for you, and we're going

552
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 7: to start with him discussing with the media exactly what

553
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 7: he's working on these days.

554
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 8: My posture, the way that I'm processing the defense in

555
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 8: terms of I know what I'm getting, but let the

556
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 8: rhythm of the play play out. You know, don't be

557
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 8: getting to that answer too quick, because you know, it's

558
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 8: a timing and rhythm of the concepts and the defenses

559
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 8: and just decision making, just understanding, you know, the situation

560
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 8: of the game, not just the concept that I'm trying

561
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Speaker 8: to execute. Understand you know, like for instance, that first

562
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Speaker 8: pick last game, you know, it's four minutes going in

563
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 8: the half, we're on our own side of the territory,

564
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 8: and just understand, you know, what that risk factor should

565
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Speaker 8: be and go from there.

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Speaker 1: So I'd say those.

567
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Speaker 7: Things, and here's more from JJ specifically, I believe on

568
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 7: just new mechanics now that he's in the in the

569
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Speaker 7: big league.

570
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Speaker 8: Coming in here, I was taught how to play quarterback

571
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 8: in a very different way, and that's expected going into

572
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Speaker 8: the league, going into any new team, any new system.

573
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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, you know, it

574
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Speaker 8: was really just the injuries that I felt like, you know,

575
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Speaker 8: kind of took away all those reps in the constant

576
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Speaker 8: repetition to make those a habit and make them concrete,

577
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 8: like KOs talks about, I feel like.

578
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Speaker 1: You know, it's just the repetitions.

579
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Speaker 8: You know, how many times could I go home and

580
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Speaker 8: every time I take the dogs out, I'm getting, you know,

581
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 8: ten drops each time. Little things like that where you

582
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Speaker 8: just keep the.

583
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 7: Reps, dah, just taking the dogs for a lot, catch

584
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 7: a quick ten and then we're back to it.

585
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: Rewiring those neural pathways. There's a lot. It's definitely a lot.

586
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 7: Dan Orlobski usually offers a lot NFL Live on ESPN.

587
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Here he is.

588
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 7: This is kind of the back end of a longer

589
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 7: conversation he had on TV yesterday, specifically breaking down some

590
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 7: of those mechanical or fundamental issues he's seen in McCarthy.

591
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Speaker 9: These are mechanical things that are starting from the ground.

592
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Speaker 1: That's where the flaw is.

593
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 9: First is they got to get his feet consistently closer together.

594
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 9: The second thing is they got to get him to

595
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 9: add his hips rotate more, because right now his legs

596
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 9: don't rotate, his hips don't rotate, and his upper body does.

597
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 9: So that's why you're getting these occasional kind of egregious misses.

598
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: You could play it and see how this his left

599
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: arm flings open.

600
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 9: See his left shoulder is consistently behind the right shoulder

601
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 9: rather than pointing towards his target and staying tight and

602
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 9: so sad.

603
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Speaker 1: I know it's discouraging. I understand it like it's concerning.

604
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Speaker 9: I'm a little bit more encouraged because I think those

605
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 9: are correctible things.

606
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, thank goodness, you know. I part of the

607
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 7: reason I played that audio PA was not as I didn't.

608
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Speaker 7: I wasn't hoping that you would have ninety seconds or

609
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 7: two minutes of just like a breakdown or a long

610
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 7: extended thought on it. That my point of playing all

611
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 7: that this is insane.

612
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: It's insane.

613
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 7: It's this is insane. It's it's his six game on Sunday.

614
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to it, you know, I have. I

615
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 7: have this though, one thing that is kind of weird.

616
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 7: Two road games Chicago and Detroit. Sixty percent completion, yeah,

617
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 7: six total touchdowns, turned it over twice at home in

618
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 7: those three games, less than fifty percent completion, two touchdowns,

619
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Speaker 7: seven total turnovers. He's less accurate, he's throwing it to

620
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 7: the other team. He's not as efficient or productive overall

621
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 7: at home.

622
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Speaker 1: So this weekend, how about this.

623
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Speaker 7: Let's generate three tds like you've gone two for two

624
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 7: on the road in the division before. Let's not give

625
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 7: it to the other freaking team, and let's come out

626
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 7: with a victory. I mean, I'm listen to that audio.

627
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 7: I don't want to listen to it again. They're they're

628
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 7: all pathways there.

629
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Speaker 5: When when JJ McCarthy and I was at that press

630
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 5: conference yesterday and it had my head spinning.

631
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's and I've heard him.

632
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: Talk like that before, and O'Connell talk like that before,

633
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 5: with the footwork and the balance and the eyework and

634
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 5: the shoulders, and now we've got neurological pathways entering the mix.

635
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 5: It's with all due respect to everybody with the twenty

636
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: twenty five Minnesota Vikings working arduously to raise this kid quarterback.

637
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 5: I leave these conversations wondering how he ever completed a

638
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 5: pass at Michigan. I mean, how did he ever go

639
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 5: on a drop back and actually make things happen? And

640
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 5: then the difference between what is needed there when you

641
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: got all the best players compared to having a bunch

642
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 5: of good players here but against a bunch of really

643
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 5: really good players for other teams every single week. I mean,

644
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: it's it's just I guess it's a complete overhaul. I

645
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 5: don't I just don't understand enough about it. But you know,

646
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 5: it's when we get before we walk up to Aaron

647
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 5: Jones and Bira Murphy a little later, one thing I

648
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 5: was going to share with you then I'll share with

649
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 5: you now because that little breakdown you did McCarthy the

650
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 5: first two possessions of his five starts. His passer rating

651
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 5: is one twenty five point nine and his yards per

652
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: attempt is eight and high change one twenty five to nine.

653
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 5: A yards per attempt of eight and high change is immortality.

654
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Speaker 5: Like yeah, top five in the NFL for one twenty

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Speaker 5: five to nine and eight and change first two possessions.

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Speaker 5: All right, so that includes even those early misses that

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Speaker 5: we were kind of frustrated about last week. Okay, every

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Speaker 5: first two possess, the first two possessions of all five

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Speaker 5: of the starts, passer rating one twenty five to nine

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Speaker 5: yards per attempt eight and change around eight and a half.

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Speaker 5: Not bad, now we know from Soldier Field and the

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Speaker 5: final two drives last Sunday and for long patches in

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Speaker 5: that Lions game. JJ McCarthy absolutely can handle pressure. We

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Speaker 5: know that we've seen it. I mean, it's it's a

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Speaker 5: calling card of his. So how do we fix the

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Speaker 5: in between?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: HiT's the in between when he's like thirty five percent

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Speaker 5: on third down and throws more picks than touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Well you you even asked.

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Speaker 7: You asked ko I think on Tuesday, and it was

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Speaker 7: kind of just the because I talked. We've talked about

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Speaker 7: this off air and on air times. I'm sure, but

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Speaker 7: it's like you can't teach the late stage pressure handling,

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Speaker 7: just organically, how do you teach him to complete the

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Speaker 7: bleeping second in five in the second quarter, or not

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Speaker 7: throw that pick like he threw to Bayered in the

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Speaker 7: first in the Bears game.

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Speaker 1: Stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: Like it's just as there's a short circuiting, there's something up.

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Speaker 5: That's why neurological pathways are needing to be developed, because

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Speaker 5: it's short circuiting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know part of me, you know, and this

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Speaker 1: is just not how it works.

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Speaker 7: But it's just Ko's just like, all right, whatever I've

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Speaker 7: told you, just go play, Just just go play the.

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Speaker 1: Just go play the game.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 7: We've tried this, we want to keep you in the pocket,

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Speaker 7: we've tried some runs, we've tracked this, we've tracked that.

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Speaker 1: Just go play.

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Speaker 7: Just go play football like you're out in the sandbox

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Speaker 7: with your buddies. And maybe that's that's the next evolution

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Speaker 7: of this thing, neurological pathways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's Viike spikes.

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Speaker 5: If McCarthy does not make the simple simple, O'Connell is

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Speaker 5: telling the truth, and he's absolutely right. Is they've overcome

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Speaker 5: a lot of things with McCarthy, you know, as you

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Speaker 5: do with young twenty two year old quarterbacks. It's now

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Speaker 5: making the routine routine, and that's up to the kit.

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Speaker 5: It's making the simple simple, yeah, and not making it

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Speaker 5: so hard on himself. Correct and if he doesn't, he

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Speaker 5: won't be starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. Maybe in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, that's true. Those are Vikes bites provided by.

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Speaker 7: Thousand Hills Lifetime grazed grass fed beef. It's good for

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Speaker 7: your neurological pathways, I think, or at least it's regenerative agriculture.

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Speaker 1: Check out the website. They know more about it.

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Speaker 5: And Russo radio is good for the blood flow because

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Speaker 5: if he says something that frustrates you, the blood gets

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Speaker 5: going and he stimulates you with his elite hockey knowledge.

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Speaker 5: Wild beat the Canan's in a shootout last night. That

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Speaker 5: topic and more around the corner on kf a N.

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Speaker 10: Matt Boldie top with round three, eight for seventeen in

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Speaker 10: his career, including six game deciding shootout. Tallis had a

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Speaker 10: breakaway goal in the opening Paradis shorty Boldi picks up

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Speaker 10: the bucket center why right into the hurricane zone. Now

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Speaker 10: back towards the middle of slot, Boldi waits dance.

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Speaker 2: For his packet.

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Speaker 1: He's gone.

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Speaker 10: Speedster, Taylor Hall, racist or center bolls.

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Speaker 1: It stops him, It's over. Pauline took a shot, step

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Speaker 1: sap stand.

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Speaker 2: In the wild Yes, ball.

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Speaker 10: Set, the best performance maybe it was youngis your career?

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Speaker 1: Brusso Radio.

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Speaker 5: Michael Russo the Athletic, Theathletic dot com at Russo Hockey

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Speaker 5: joins nine to noon every so often and here he

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Speaker 5: is the uh uh these wild Joe O'Donnell on the

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Speaker 5: calls there by the way on kfam, they're good right now,

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Speaker 5: these wild seven one one the last nine four to

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Speaker 5: zhero and won this home stand beat beat the Canes

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Speaker 5: in a shootout. Wallstead was terrific, and the NHL's Twitter

733
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Speaker 5: account called him the Wall of Saint Paul. What do

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Speaker 5: you think about all this, Michael Russo and good morning.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, he has been definitely the biggest you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to say surprise of the season, but

737
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Speaker 6: definitely definitely the biggest bright spot. He's gotten the wild

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Speaker 6: points in all seven of his starts. I think that,

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Speaker 6: you know, especially the way that Gustuston has been playing

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Speaker 6: the last couple starts as well, playing really really well,

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Speaker 6: you know, the one question I asked joh Hines after

742
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Speaker 6: the game last night is could you see yourself even

743
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Speaker 6: doing you know, exactly what Rod Brindimore has done the

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Speaker 6: last couple of years in Carolina, And let's go with

745
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Speaker 6: a pretty much a strict rotation no matter what happens

746
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Speaker 6: the game before, the next goalie is starting. And right

747
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Speaker 6: now Carolina is doing it with three goalies last night,

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Speaker 6: co checkout with scratched. He'll back up tomorrow night in Winnipeg,

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Speaker 6: probably start in Buffalo, and Freddie, you'll have the night

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Speaker 6: off in Winnipeg. And in such a condensed season because

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Speaker 6: of the Olympics, you know, that is very very necessary

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Speaker 6: the while to play twenty one games already in a

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Speaker 6: month and change of the season, and it's going to

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Speaker 6: be like that the rest of the season. They barely have,

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Speaker 6: you know, any time off up until the Olympics. So

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Speaker 6: I think that it's been a really pleasant surprise to

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Speaker 6: see Wiley playing as well as he has. Remember, he's

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Speaker 6: had a last couple of years. He's had some trouble

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Speaker 6: in Iowa last year, had some injury issues, needed a

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Speaker 6: sort of a mental reset after being very disappointed that

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Speaker 6: he was spending the year in Iowa because of the

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Speaker 6: wild Cap punch when they hope to at least have

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Speaker 6: three goalies in Minnesota more often than not, and that

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Speaker 6: just couldn't happen because they were so inundated with injuries

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Speaker 6: and he really really struggled both Mentley and and on

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Speaker 6: the ice. And for him to come up here right

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Speaker 6: now and be as good as he has been, you know,

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Speaker 6: it probably shows also how well the wild they're defending

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Speaker 6: right now, because they've been really, really good. Last night,

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Speaker 6: it wasn't the greatest game by they stretched the last

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Speaker 6: forty minutes, but defense, defending wise, that has been the

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Speaker 6: biggest turnaround for the season. And as you mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 6: a four to zero to one home stand after going

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Speaker 6: to two and two on that other long home stan

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Speaker 6: in October, you know they are definitely heading the right direction.

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Speaker 1: And off that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they got out Chop forty five to eighteen,

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Speaker 5: and after the game I read this at the Athletic.

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Speaker 5: After the game, Baldi said, quote, well one is a

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Speaker 5: when when April comes, Oh you beat Carolina, but you

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Speaker 5: played bad. Two points and that's what matters. No one

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Speaker 5: in this room cares. We'll use it to get better.

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Speaker 5: End quote. Is that a fair read on the victory?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely, two points is two points. The Wild have

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Speaker 6: had plenty of games earlier last month where they probably

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Speaker 6: deserve better and didn't get to one or two points. So,

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Speaker 6: you know, I don't want to do the old at all,

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Speaker 6: even out. But he's exactly right. You know, obviously Carolina

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Speaker 6: played really really well the last two periods. They're third

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Speaker 6: lines with stankovi and centering Jackson Blake. I mean you

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Speaker 6: call it the third lines really more of the second line,

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Speaker 6: and Nikolai Illert's on that line. They were just sensational

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Speaker 6: last night. Like Jackson Blake is just going to be

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Speaker 6: a heck of a player for that team for a

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Speaker 6: long long time, and he was dominant last night and

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Speaker 6: and could have had three or four or five goals,

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Speaker 6: wound up with two gets the triangles. Since to overtime,

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Speaker 6: probably justice prevailed to them at least getting a point.

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Speaker 6: But but to to Matt's point, I mean, the Wild

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Speaker 6: were really uh look, they're they're down significant players right now.

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Speaker 6: They have, you know, the second most injuries in the league.

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Speaker 6: You know, hopefully this isn't a sign of of what's

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Speaker 6: happened the last couple of years and that it's starting now.

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Speaker 6: But when you're down mark O Rossi and you're down

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Speaker 6: Ryan Hartman and you have a rookie center playing number

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Speaker 6: one center, that's what you get at the end of

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Speaker 6: game sometimes. I mean, you know, Ben Jones, who doesn't

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Speaker 6: have a point, and then a shell career is on

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Speaker 6: ice for that tying goal. I mean, that is only

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Speaker 6: happening because the Wild, you know, are so inundated with

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Speaker 6: injuries up up up the middle right now. Trenyon's not

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Speaker 6: exactly a natural center, so it didn't feel comfortable there

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Speaker 6: and you're us, you know, played twenty twenty games in

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Speaker 6: the league, less than twenty games, so he went with

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Speaker 6: the Ben Ben Jones and it just obviously didn't work out.

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Speaker 6: So I think that, you know, there's reasons why the

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Speaker 6: Wild were on their heels to such a degree in

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Speaker 6: the last forty minutes. You don't like to see it,

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Speaker 6: especially on home ice. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: and that's right, they got two points and they move

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Speaker 6: on to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: And Baldy scored the first shorty of his career last night,

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Speaker 5: and he's hot six goal in the last seven games.

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Speaker 5: Do you think Baldy and Caprisov will go nose to

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Speaker 5: nose right to the end for team supremacy with goals probably.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Reefa's probably a little less streaky

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Speaker 6: than Boldie. So that's the one thing is that you know,

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Speaker 6: most likely, I would think that if Reefu's healthy, he's

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Speaker 6: going to wind up, you know, being the Wild's goal leader.

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Speaker 6: You know, Matt Oldie got off to a scorching hot

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Speaker 6: start this season and then he went one game, one

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Speaker 6: goal in a ten game stretch. Now he has six

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Speaker 6: in the last seven. That's just been Matt's you know, career.

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Speaker 6: A lot of goal scorers are streaky, but he is

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Speaker 6: just playing such a great brand of all around winning

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Speaker 6: hockey right now. It's not just his offensive abilities. He's

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Speaker 6: been so good in his own end. He competes. You know,

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Speaker 6: I just love what I've seen from him this homestand

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Speaker 6: and you know, in terms of him being on the

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Speaker 6: ice there on the penalty kill, this is what John

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Speaker 6: Hines had been talking about for the last couple of

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Speaker 6: years and why he wanted to introduce him to playing

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Speaker 6: the penalty kill. He tried it at the World Championships

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Speaker 6: two years ago when John was coaching there Matt was

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Speaker 6: really good on the PK and so he was going

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Speaker 6: to play there at the start of last season, but unfortunately,

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Speaker 6: the first day of camp he broke his foot, broke

848
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Speaker 6: a bone in his foot, and really missed all of camp.

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Speaker 6: So he didn't really get introduced until on the penalty

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Speaker 6: kill until late.

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Speaker 3: In the season.

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Speaker 6: And now he's been really, really good in that situation.

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Speaker 6: And you know, you could see the reason why so

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Speaker 6: many good offensive players in the National Hockey League play

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Speaker 6: the PK is for exactly what he did last night.

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Speaker 6: You know, good offensive players react on where that puck

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Speaker 6: is going, and you know, against another sensational offensive players,

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Speaker 6: spashion Aho, Matt read that perfectly knocked down a pass

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Speaker 6: that that Aho intended to you know, enter the own

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Speaker 6: with and next thing, you know, Boldi's off on the

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Speaker 6: races and scores a goal that probably Freddy should have stopped.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I think that this is exactly why

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Speaker 6: John Hines wanted him on the PK, not just the

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Speaker 6: obviously kill penalties, but to add an offensive element to

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Speaker 6: the penalty kill, as the Wild just haven't had because

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Speaker 6: they don't really play like a lot of teams, A

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Speaker 6: lot of their top offensive players on.

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Speaker 5: The PK Russo Radio, A great opportunity for your off

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Speaker 5: How did your off handle centering the top line?

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Speaker 6: And you know, really good for first time. And you know,

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Speaker 6: I think he's realizing right away that when you play

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Speaker 6: with great offensive players. He had the chance to accumulate points.

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Speaker 6: He got his first multi point game of the season.

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Speaker 6: I didn't think the line was very good as a whole.

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Speaker 6: That I don't I don't necessarily think that's yourrop's fault

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Speaker 6: at all. I think that they probably have to simplify

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Speaker 6: right now that line. Sometimes they get a little too

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Speaker 6: cute and it creates problems. And they wound up in

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Speaker 6: their own end way too much last night and didn't

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Speaker 6: get a ton of even strength ice time, especially in

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Speaker 6: the second period because of it. But E'rerov is just

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Speaker 6: such a quality player. And what I love about the

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Speaker 6: kid is that usually, you know, a twenty one year

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Speaker 6: old comes over for Europe and if they're not from Sweden,

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Speaker 6: you got to teach him how to play defense. He

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Speaker 6: is so responsible in his own end and he's taken

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Speaker 6: care about that more and more and more, and that's

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Speaker 6: why John Hines trusts them, you know so much. Last

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Speaker 6: night there was some trouble. There was some trouble, you know, uh,

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Speaker 6: I would say defensively where he got on the wrong

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Speaker 6: side of Puffs and his own end. There was one

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Speaker 6: real good chance by Jackson Blake where he got on

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Speaker 6: the other side of You're out and it was a

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Speaker 6: great spring chance. And that line, as I'm said, just

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Speaker 6: dominated the wild pretty much anybody that they threw out

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Speaker 6: there last night. But I think you is going to

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Speaker 6: get better and better. They really have no choice now

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Speaker 6: because Hartman's got to miss at least the next couple

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Speaker 6: of games because he's on injured conserve. Rossie is still

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Speaker 6: trying to work his way back from the broken foot,

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Speaker 6: and so they really don't have anybody else. So the

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Speaker 6: one thing I'd love to see is Hunter Hayton the

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Speaker 6: lineup on this trip. I don't know if we will

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Speaker 6: get to see him because John just trust Ben Jones,

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Speaker 6: But you know, it just feels like if you could

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Speaker 6: add another really quality offensive center to this lineup, I

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Speaker 6: think that it would help things out greatly going into

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Speaker 6: three tough road games in a row in Pittsburgh, Winnipeg

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Speaker 6: and Chicago. Who's been probably the biggest surprise in the NHL.

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Speaker 5: This year, all right, does so lastly off that at

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh tomorrow night, then at the Jetsy afternoon.

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Speaker 1: We'll start there.

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Speaker 5: The Winnipeg Jets, they beat the Wild in overtime three

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Speaker 5: weeks ago. That they haven't lost to the Wild in

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Speaker 5: almost three years? Is is this is this version of

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Speaker 5: the Wild poised to take two from the Jets on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know not, they definitely can, There's no doubt

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Speaker 6: about it. Not having Hartman and Rossi and Tarasenko and

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Speaker 6: these guys, you know, hurts. We'll see what happens with

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Speaker 6: Nico Sturm if he could play at some point this weekend.

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Speaker 6: The hope is that he'll practice in Winnipeg on Saturday

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Speaker 6: and maybe make his debut on Sunday, which would do

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Speaker 6: way earlier than he had thought. But we'll see if

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Speaker 6: that's too premature. But goosions on the trip as well.

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Speaker 6: I definitely think they have the ability to beat that team.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's just obviously the matchups haven't gone very

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Speaker 6: well for the Wild, especially up there in Winnipeg, you know,

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Speaker 6: so we'll see, you know, the one thing I'd love

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Speaker 6: to see if they're going to go with this rotation

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Speaker 6: that would mean that Gustuson is going to start in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 6: and that would mean Wally would start in Winnipeg, and

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Speaker 6: it would be something different we haven't seen before. Usually

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Speaker 6: when Wally goes up there in the preseason or plays

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Speaker 6: the Jets in the preseason, it goes really really well. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: that's a preseason lineup, so you can't make too much

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Speaker 6: of that, but I definitely think the Wild have the

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Speaker 6: ability to beat that team. It just for some reason

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Speaker 6: that matchup just hasn't gone really well. I think it

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Speaker 6: starts between the pipes. Connor Hallibuck is just an unbelievably

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Speaker 6: good goaltender. He's won the Vestment of the last couple

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Speaker 6: of years. He's off to another really quality start this

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Speaker 6: Year's the reason why he's probably gonna be the number

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Speaker 6: one at the Olympics, although Jake Ottinger might have something

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Speaker 6: to say about that, so we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 6: But you know, the first thing they got to do

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Speaker 6: is going to Pittsburgh and win. That game against Pittsburgh

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Speaker 6: at home last month was one of the worst Wild

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Speaker 6: games that we've seen this season, especially in the third period.

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Speaker 6: And what I loved about that game is. That was

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Speaker 6: the next morning where Jared's burgeon and I'm gonna be

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Speaker 6: writing about it today. Had had the team meeting, a

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Speaker 6: real substantive team meeting, and they're seven to one to

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Speaker 6: one since so that was a real turning point of

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Speaker 6: the season that that Pittsburgh lost. We'll see if they can, uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, amend that tomorrow night.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Bud, have a great weekend. Call you next week.

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Speaker 5: Ben Lever is around the corner and he will follow

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Speaker 5: Russo radio quarter battle this weekend.

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Speaker 7: Be right,