WEBVTT - EITM interviews Sean Burch 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.240 Sean Burch has a brand new documentary. It's called Kings 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:03.880 of the Forest. 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.240 He also has a brand new book, Sweat Working, The 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:13.240 Mastery Guide to revolutionizing your life and professional relationships through wellness. 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.760 Please welcome our friend, mister Shawn Birch. 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:21.000 Hello, sir, Hello. I love when you come in, but 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:22.279 you also make me very mad. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.200 Thank you. No, you know what I get. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.600 I get very angry. I get very angry. No because 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:29.680 I'm I'm just I'm envious. That's my problem. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.159 I'm envious because I always and we always get into 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.120 this conversation where I love that you've been on top 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.199 of Everest. I'm obsessed with wanting to just see the 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.720 top of Everest. And then every time you come in, 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.000 I'm like, I could be like Sean, e but the 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.279 but but you've done that, and I love that. And 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.320 it's not just that it's all the lifestyle and everything. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.000 I get very envious of it. But I love that 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:54.920 you do all the things that you do. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.960 Yeah, I mean it's nice not to go on in 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.720 expeditions and not having to shower for thirty forty fifty days. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:03.120 I enjoy that as well. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.200 By the way, that's the one part that I could 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:09.000 get done. Yeah, I just figured out you gravitate towards 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:10.760 that part of that. That's why I mentioned it. Wait, 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:12.560 so wait a minute, like when you go do well, 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.000 no to Elliott will be stupid. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.200 There's no showers up on the mountains. You're not doing 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:16.600 any of that. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.000 Yeah, no, no, I I. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.160 Kind of That's part of the expedition that I enjoy 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.440 the most. It's really simplistic, Right, you have mountains to climb, 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.160 and that's the goal. You don't have to worry about 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:28.559 your mortgage payments, you don't have to worry about your phone, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:29.960 you don't have to worry about anything else. You just 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.160 worry about the goal at hand, whatever mountain that day 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.399 I was, you know, choosing to climb. And then on 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.640 long expeditions, you know you just everesus right in front 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.200 of you. You just sit there and every day I 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.200 would just meditate on, okay, just get to the top. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.000 Get to the top, you know, safely and back. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.120 What's the long What is the longest expedition you've done? 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.520 The longest one I've I've done is was probably crossing 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.760 the Pall. I did it and that was forty nine 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:55.920 days and. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.000 You went fifty days without it. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:57.480 Yeah. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.560 But when I was on the now Geo show, I 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.320 think I didn't. I think I did sixty nine days. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.080 Oh did you really that was the I did a 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:03.920 Rod show? Right? 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:04.640 No, it was. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.320 It was Ultimate Survival Alaska. They took us around Alaska, 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.960 competing against each oe like I Navy seals and that's 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.160 right Native Alaskans. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.040 And that was sixty nine days with happening. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:15.560 Yeah. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.239 Yeah, and no brushing your teeth. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:18.720 No, I brushed my teeth. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.560 Oh that please, money and civil I've scrubbed. 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.200 My nuts in a month, but I'm brushing my teeth. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:28.840 But wait, you know what, so I was reading your book. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:30.680 I was reading your book. First of all, it took 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.919 me about an hour to get through the title. So 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.960 the that part was good. No, no, But did we 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:37.240 know this or do I just not? 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:37.760 Remember? 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.400 You didn't start climbing until you were in your late twenties. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.200 like you didn't climb your first mount until you were 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:43.760 twenty nine. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:44.720 Twenty nine? Yeah? 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.040 Is that your late start, very late start. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:47.440 Yeah. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.920 I mean I I'd always wanted to climb, but then 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.280 you know, there's not too many high helsitude peaks in Virginia, 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:53.480 so I was. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:53.920 I was. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:55.880 It was kind of a goal I had set for myself. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.560 And then suddenly, you know, I had a relation, really 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.000 special relationship with my grandfather. When he passed away, he 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.359 was kind of like, you know, you got to live 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.280 your life and do everything you've always wanted to do. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.760 And that kind of hit it home to me when 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.560 he died that you know, he's right, I got to 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.040 start doing these things. So I just said, you know 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.079 what I'm going to try to I'm going to go 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:14.720 climb everest and I'm going to figure out how to 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.600 do it. And I started climbing smaller peaks and I 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.360 found out that I was really good at it. I 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.160 was already teaching fitness right, so I was already in shape. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.160 So I was working out every single day, four hours 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.120 on end, and then when I got to high altitude, 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.000 I just really found that I excelled at it and 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.440 then just kind of steamrolled from there. 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.720 So was it the is that what got you to 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.960 Because you're right, and you do mention that that that 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.080 your grandfather had said you got to go live with life, 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:41.320 like go live life and the but and like you said, 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:42.280 you were already working out. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:43.640 You were a fitness guy and all that. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.280 Yeah, But was the thing that got you to to 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:47.200 being a mountaineer? 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.200 Was it just Everest? Was that it? 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:49.800 No? 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.280 No, It's just I used to read books on their 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:56.360 hardship and what they went through, and I I needed that. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.320 I thought I was soft, and I thought that in 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.400 order for me to go row as a as an individual, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.720 I need to put myself through the uh strenuous, let's say, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:10.200 types of activities such as mountaineering, that I would learn 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:14.560 more about myself. And I've always wont I always liked hiking. Again, 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.839 I wasn't a climber, so when I started mountaineering, I 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.120 was like, Oh, I really like this and then it 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.039 just again, it just kind of steamrolled from there, and 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.599 the more I got on the mountains, the more I 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.880 just found that that's where I felt at home the most. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.960 Because you're afraid of heights, yes, very much so. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:30.640 But you'll sleep. 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.560 You've told us stories in the past where you'll sleep 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.039 on like a cliff or like a ledge and a 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.520 sleeping bag where it's six inches and you're going you're 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:38.119 going down. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:38.479 Yeah. 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.280 Mostly when I'm climbing, you don't really, I don't sleep. Try, 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.359 I try more stable when I'm climbing. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:44.599 Yeah. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.280 I mean there's a couple photos from my altitude pks 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.040 that I've done that are just like right on the edge. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:49.800 I just don't look down. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.960 I just look my camera and take a picture, but 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.080 I don't look at it, you know. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:54.880 But what do you do? 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.799 Like the one the one image that comes to mind, 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.760 not that you you've done, but like just being afraid 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.680 of heights is I feel like everybody has seen the 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:08.679 picture of that ladder on Everest where you walk across 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.040 the ladder, and I mean, I have no idea what 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.120 that drop is like, Like, I don't know that I'm 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.600 afraid of heights, but I have this thing where if 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.159 I'm up high on something, I want to jump off 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.080 of it. I don't know what that's called, and I 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.279 obviously never would, but I would never be able to 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:29.120 walk across that ladder. Like that's what's preventing me, honestly 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:29.880 from Everest. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:31.800 I would never be able to do. If you're afraid 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.520 of heights, how do you walk across that ladder? 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.720 That's a great point, I mean that's the really I 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.280 was thinking, how when I got to the first big 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.320 cravross that I was crossing. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.000 I was like, oh my god, I look down. I 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:42.960 was like, how am I going to do this? 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.920 I have to do it seven eight times up and down, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:47.880 and I just said, hey, you know what, I've got 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:48.039 to go. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:49.920 I've got to do it. I've got to do it. 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:51.440 So I just didn't look down. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.360 And you know, and I have some film and stuff 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.720 like that from some of my last films. I just 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.279 put the video camera down, but I wasn't looking I 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.720 was just looking straight across. I never looked down because 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.359 I thought, like, you know, I like probably like you, 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.080 I just I would freak out. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:06.640 Right, But you don't have to look down. 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.599 But you you know, you're on a ladder with yeah, yeah, 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.400 thousands of feet beneath you, Like you don't. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.560 You can look wherever you want, you know what's there. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.320 Be completely present. That's how you do it. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.960 Hey, So get me to get me to the book. 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.320 I remember hyper fitness was the was the last one. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.520 So sweat working and you go through like all of 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:35.680 these these these disciplines to have in order to network, 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.440 but through different different ways of getting that done. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.400 Correct. Yeah. I didn't come up with the name sweat working. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.960 I was actually reading an article a couple of years ago, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.800 and I think it was in Men's Health about you know, oh, 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.000 this is how you work. You know you work, how 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.960 you network is you exercise together and we call it sweatwork. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.359 And I was like, well, I've been doing this for 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.400 twenty years. So I looked it up. 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:57.680 I did research, and I was like, there was not 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.000 a single book about it. So I started writing the 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.560 book about how do you go about doing that? You know, 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.839 if you're an HR executive, if you're you want to 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.800 work for you with your team, how do you how 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.800 do you go about doing every single little thing? And 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.040 that's what I started to do is just start outlining 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.680 it so anybody can implement this into their company and 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.920 also for themselves, you know, start exercising. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.280 Do people like from now now that the book is out, 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.600 do people like our companies? Because in the book you 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.640 even talk about like, hey, reach out to us. Are 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.160 companies starting to do that where it's like let's find 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.080 ways to incorporate sweat working instead of networking? 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.200 Yeah, it's out there with with bigger companies, it's out there, 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.520 but I want to do it for all companies, right 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.080 as kind of a way to say, hey, this is 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:43.720 a normal thing that you do. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.360 It's like everyone goes to conferences and things like that. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.040 I've been to hundreds of those things doing speeches, and 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.239 a lot of those times they walk around like their's zombies. 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.720 They're just done with it, you know, the happy hour 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.000 and stuff. I'm trying to make it more interesting, kind 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.640 of a way to say, hey, let's do movement instead. 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.080 So yeah, I want to implement into all companies, not 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.960 just larger companies. So that's why I give that outline 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.160 of how to do go about. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.960 But what's the easy way to get started. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.960 To get started in sweat working? Yeah, exactly, buy the book. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.840 I tell you, I tell you, I'll tell you how 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.240 to do it. That's why I don't have to answer you. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:19.200 I'll give you the link. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.200 No, no, But what I'm saying is I could see 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.360 somebody going like in theory, great idea, great idea. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.960 In in in implementation, implementing it not so easy to do. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.760 Yeah, that's why in the book, I you know, I 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:35.920 literally outline it. Talk to you, Here's how do you 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.640 do when you pitch it to your bosses? Right, here's 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.640 what to say, here's the benefits of doing that, and 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.160 then from there here's your first session. Here's what I 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.600 would recommend you in, like a walking session, or you know, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.600 if you're at a conference, maybe do a session at 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.000 a museum, but do something active. I find that connections 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.719 are much more meaningful when you do that, not at 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.400 a at a at a happy hour where thirty or 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.920 forty minutes you've had three or four drinks and you 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.800 just you know, you forget the person and you forget 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.680 what do you even talk about here? Is I have 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.760 found the most meaningful relationships on the mountains and in 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.520 fitness classes, right bar none. So that's what I'm trying 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.040 to do with with this with the book. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:17.040 And then the other thing. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:18.680 One of the other things you talk about the book 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.960 is that everybody needs to have a moral code. Yeah, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.560 it has a moral code, but you should write it down. 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.480 Yeah do you do that and stick to it? Well? 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.280 I know it by you know, my moral code is 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.959 very deep and everything I do, so I don't need 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.319 to write it down anymore. But that's one of my things, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.000 is I is everyone needs a moral code, and if 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.840 you don't have it, because I've asked people that, you know, 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.960 when I've done leadership classes and work with executives like, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.000 what's your moral code? And it kind of startles them. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.360 It's almost like, you know, the same thing as what 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.240 are your goals? You just saw personal goals for five 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:54.680 or ten years out. It's the same thing. They go, 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.280 I never really thought about it. We'll find that moral 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.079 code and stick to it no matter what. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.720 And you say, read it every like when you first 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.480 do it, write it down and just keep updating it 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.240 and add to it and make it a living document 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.800 and then make sure you read it and make sure 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:11.640 you remember it. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.480 And if you have to do it every day. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.720 Until you like you're you and you remember it or 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.520 add something to it, but that you know. But but 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.560 it gets back to the same thing, like moral code, 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.319 Like I think I'm a halfway decent person, like okay, 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.120 but I wouldn't even know what to write down. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.480 Yeah, well see there you go. You don't know. That's 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:29.600 what you said. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.200 What are you going to do years I sit in 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:33.080 this goddamn chair. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.640 Yeah I know, but you have goals. I'm sure personal goals. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.640 You have to dig deeper than that. You know, you're 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.640 on this earth for a certain amount of time. You 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.600 stress that, you really really stress that, especially now, especially 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.440 I mean, you travel around the world and you see 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.960 how the world plays out within different countries, and you 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.160 really have to have this strict moral. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:53.840 Code and stick to it. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.439 Because the biggest thing that bothers me is this authenticity 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.480 I talk about in the book. I call genuineness, not authenticity, 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.440 because everyone throws that I'm so authentic or what we're 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.080 posting is so authentic. It's so much it's so much 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.839 overused that authenticity is done. So my thing is start 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.079 with that moral code with yourself and then stick with that. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.600 What was the first thing you wrote down when you 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.880 when you when you were creating your own moral code, 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.520 or like you said, I know my moral code like 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.680 if it were if it were, if it were a pyramid. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:24.720 What is the big one at the base? 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:30.880 Resilience, perseverance, honesty, Right, my word's my word. Those are 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.400 major components to my thing. If I say I'm going 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.160 to do something, I'll do it. I don't like to quit. 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.359 So that's a big thing that's helped me on expeditions. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.640 If I set myself a goal, I won't stop until 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.480 it's done, no matter what. I don't you know, the 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.720 pain or the hardship that goes through it, and that 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:47.520 kind of drives that. 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.920 Yeah, but don't you also have to Now I'm going 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:51.599 to talk you out of your moral code. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.000 No, no, but but but also you have to be smart. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.920 I'm assuming you have found yourself in situations on a 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.680 mountain or wherever it is, and you're like, I don't 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.679 want to quit, but I'm also gonna die if I 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:03.280 keep going. 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.280 Yeah, I've turned around. Yeah, but still it kills you. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.240 I start, and when you start an expedition, whatever it is, 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.480 or any goal, you have to believe one hundred percent 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.439 that you will complete the goal. So every expedition I start, 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.600 every mountain, I climb for that particular day while I'm 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.280 doing first as since I think I'm going to reach 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.680 that top. But of course as you go things change, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.120 weather changes, and then you reevaluate. Am I sticking to 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.360 my moral code if I turn around? 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.280 Yes? Because if I don't, I'm probably going to die. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:31.600 Sure. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.079 Yeah, but if I. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:38.360 Try my best, if I'm working my hardest, then outside forces, 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.719 let's say weather, right, then I can live with that. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.680 I just can't live with me quitting, quitting or going average. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:45.280 I don't want to. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.760 Life is too important. Never be average. Never be average. 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.559 I'm always trying to learn to be a better person 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:52.320 every single day. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.040 And the other thing like you talk about like you 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.079 only like life is you only have one life and 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.120 that's it. And you do talk about the the the 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.640 how you use time right and like no, because we 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.600 have that conversation all the time. Is like it's time's 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.360 all the same. It's just how do you manage it? 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.880 But you almost go like a step further than that 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:17.760 of everybody makes an excuse, but you find you make time. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.960 Correct, I've many many people. I just don't have the time. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.199 So I'm okay, let's allocate that time. How do you 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:25.200 many hours in the day? 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:26.720 Okay? What means that? You know? 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.360 What means something to you? Okay, so you just you 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:30.199 have to allocate it. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:30.480 You know. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.800 That's why with sweatwork, and I'm trying to like, well, 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.160 if we get companies forces the wellness on you, forces 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.560 the movement, then you will see the benefits of it, 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.400 and then from there you can take it on and 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.920 have it involve evolve in your own life and improve 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.280 your own life. But it's this that initial part of 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.120 getting you to exercise, getting you to move, to see 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.920 those benefits of it, but you've got to have back 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.840 to the time. You've got to have You've got to 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.000 find the time because everyone has the same twenty four hours, right, 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.439 And I've never said I've never heard somebody say, you know, 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:00.320 I've got it's. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.320 Got too much time every single day. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.480 I've never heard that, So it's like, yes, I know, 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.360 I know the fact, but find the time whatever it is. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:08.920 Do you ever have a day though, where you just 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.480 lay on the couch and eat Chinese food? 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.719 I have a day is where I relax, but I 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.079 don't sit on the I mean yeah, I mean I can. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.680 I don't take a day off from exercising. No, never, never. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.000 If I can, if I can do it, if I'm traveling, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.680 then yeah, but I'll still walk that night, or I'll 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:25.280 walk an hour. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.920 You walk after every after every meal? I do part walk? 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.440 No, but you yeah, no, but you say that like 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.440 after every meal you walk? 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.400 Yeah, I mean if you if you live in my town, 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.280 you'll see me walking every day. 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.960 So that's me. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:45.800 I'm sure people will make fun of it because it's 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.120 like this guy's out there no matter what. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.240 Yeah, but I love it. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.720 It makes you feel good, makes you know, helps with digestion, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:52.800 sets the tongue. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.320 Will you explain something in the book which I thought 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.400 was really good, rich cars. 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.160 Will you explain that, Yeah, it's just having Uh, it's 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.680 it's it's a kind of a way to look if 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.640 you don't have that moral code, to use rich cars 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:08.080 as a component of that. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:09.680 So go through those things. 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.840 It's just a way to remember it, you know, and uh, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.520 and then try to implement those things into your life. Again, 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.560 if you don't have the moral code, I give you 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.800 a guidance for you to find that moral code, whatever 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:21.240 that is. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:21.640 Right. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:22.320 Yeah. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.360 The then a couple of other things that I learned 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.320 in the By the way, I'm just dunkin Donuts. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:29.480 Just got here. Do you want a donut? 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:30.680 I'm okay. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.520 When's the last time you had a donut? 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:35.280 I don't know. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:36.200 That's a good question. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:40.480 Thirty thirty thirty years donut in thirty years. 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.320 Thirty years now. I don't eat desserts usually, yeah, and I. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.760 Do actually news no, no, no, these are breakfast. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.800 Okay, these are breakfast. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:49.600 No. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.080 I do. On my birthday and on my son's birthday. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.400 Because you met Hans a couple of years ago, we 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.920 each we get a cake and we each we split it. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:03.400 He eats half of it night fast. No, no, we each. 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.640 Eat half a cake and then we feel terrible for 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:07.280 the rest of the night. 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:08.560 But yeah, it's like a tradition. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.880 The but you have it, you you literally have not 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:11.160 had it. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.400 I mean, I think the only thing I was in 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.200