Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American Indio.
Speaker 2: News Radio seven WW Mike Allen in for Sloaney today, tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and a couple of days next week too. Well, I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what the beat goes on with the situation
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. It's this one thing after another with this
Speaker 2: and it grows daily. I mean it literally grows daily.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'll tell you. Yesterday a surge of federal
Speaker 2: officers from the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 2: They were deployed to Minnesota to investigate new allegations of
Speaker 2: fraud at the childcare centers, many operated by some Holly residents.
Speaker 2: I would probably change that from most operated by Somali residents.
Speaker 2: Cashptel and DHS Secretary Christy Knowam they announced that they
Speaker 2: are going to increase operations to quote dismantle large scale
Speaker 2: fraud schemes exploiting federal programs. This follows an earlier federal
Speaker 2: prosecutor's allegation that up to half of the approximately eighteen
Speaker 2: billion dollars in federal funds allocated to Minnesota since twenty
Speaker 2: eighteen may have been stolen across various programs. That's probably
Speaker 2: the understatement of the decade this thing. Yeah, and we've
Speaker 2: talked about it a lot this week and probably continue
Speaker 2: to talk about it too. It's, without question the biggest
Speaker 2: government victim. The government's the victim here fraud scheme that
Speaker 2: I've ever heard of, and probably the biggest in this country.
Speaker 2: You know, we're kind of standing pat here at nine billion,
Speaker 2: talking to people that have covered this journalist pretty closely.
Speaker 2: It's the general consensus that that's the tip of the
Speaker 2: iceberg and it's only going to go up from there.
Speaker 2: And you know, some people might be saying, well, who cares?
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's not my money, it's the taxpayers
Speaker 2: of Minnesota. The overwhelming majority of this money is from
Speaker 2: federal sources, which means, guess what you and I are
Speaker 2: paying for it. I'll tell you what. I saw something
Speaker 2: late last night that just got my hair up in
Speaker 2: a wad and the hair on the back of my
Speaker 2: neck to stand up. And no surprise here, it's the
Speaker 2: New York Times. You know, you got people out there
Speaker 2: concerned about this. The mainstream media pretty much is just
Speaker 2: taking a walk on it. And the New York Times
Speaker 2: probably has the biggest investigative force, if you will, of
Speaker 2: alleged journalist in the country. There is an article in
Speaker 2: Yesterday's New York Times that I printed out. I don't
Speaker 2: want to talk about a little bit. It's unbelievable. It
Speaker 2: is by Ken Benzinger and Nesto Londano. The headline is
Speaker 2: an intense White House response from a single viral video.
Speaker 2: Just the first couple sentences, a video purporting to expose
Speaker 2: extensive fraud at childcare centers in Minnesota shows the relationship
Speaker 2: between the Trump administration and self described citizen journalist. So
Speaker 2: right from jump, you know where this thing is going.
Speaker 2: After reading that first sentence, I said, well, we'll see
Speaker 2: where this goes. I think I got a pretty good idea.
Speaker 2: They're pod because you got citizens out there are doing
Speaker 2: the damn job that they were supposed to do. And again,
Speaker 2: a video purporting to expose extensive fraud and a childcare
Speaker 2: center in Minnesota or childcare centers plural is in Minnesota
Speaker 2: shows the relationship between the Trump administration and self described
Speaker 2: citizen journalist. Well, let me ask you, why is that
Speaker 2: a bad thing? Why is that a bad thing? You know,
Speaker 2: A young man with a cell phone, it took it
Speaker 2: put together a forty two minute video. He did the
Speaker 2: job that The New York Times, the Washington Post, all
Speaker 2: of them couldn't do or wouldn't do, I think, more appropriately,
Speaker 2: wouldn't do. Why is that a bad thing for a
Speaker 2: citizen watchdog to keep an eye on the federal government. Well,
Speaker 2: it goes on. A forty three minute video posted online
Speaker 2: in the past week purporting to expose extensive fraud at
Speaker 2: a Somali run childcare center Somali run childcare centers in
Speaker 2: Minnesota has been viewed by millions of people. It has
Speaker 2: also set off a suit of events that showed the
Speaker 2: symbiotic relationship between the Trump administration and self described citizen
Speaker 2: journalist and the Washington Post. They don't like that at all. No,
Speaker 2: they don't like it at all. Talking about of course,
Speaker 2: Nick Shirley. He put this forty three minute video together.
Speaker 2: I watched it again last night. It's on YouTube. You
Speaker 2: can find it, and I'll tell you if you care
Speaker 2: about where your taxpayers money dollars are going, just watch it.
Speaker 2: It's only forty three minutes. It's really really it kind
Speaker 2: of gives you a good idea of where we're at. Anyway.
Speaker 2: It was posted two x and on YouTube the day
Speaker 2: after Christmas by Nick Shirley, a twenty three year old
Speaker 2: who's made a name for himself in the past two
Speaker 2: years by producing viral content. Are you ready for this?
Speaker 2: That aligns with mega policies where we couldn't have that.
Speaker 2: In the video, mister Shirley is accompanied by a man
Speaker 2: known only as David, who claims to have uncovered fraud
Speaker 2: worse than anywhere else in history. And buddy, he's right
Speaker 2: about that, so he says. It goes on. The New
Speaker 2: York Times could not verify the claims made in the video. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: let me pose this question. Do they really want to
Speaker 2: Is that something that they want to get involved in?
Speaker 2: They didn't. They had the opportunity to do it, but
Speaker 2: they're not covering it. They did cover it a little
Speaker 2: bit in the beginning. Anyway. Let me see who said
Speaker 2: top Republican officials said this. Oh, this is from the
Speaker 2: Vice President. I'll tell you what. He just kind of
Speaker 2: described this thing perfectly. This is from the Vice President
Speaker 2: yesterday talking about Nick Shirley. This dude has done far
Speaker 2: more useful journalism than any of the winners of the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four Pulitzer Prize Center Prizes He's absolutely right,
Speaker 2: absolutely right, twenty three years old with a cell phone camera.
Speaker 2: He did have another camera with him, cameraman, amateur dude.
Speaker 2: But I mean he did the job that The New
Speaker 2: York Times, the Washington Post, CBS, NBC, ABC should have
Speaker 2: been doing. And they're covering this now finally, I mean
Speaker 2: they have to. But they were real slow, real slow
Speaker 2: to the dance on this. Well, the article goes on
Speaker 2: the scale of the reaction to mister Shirley's video has
Speaker 2: few precedents, but it highlights the way the White House
Speaker 2: seeds narratives about key issues and then rewards sympathetic creators
Speaker 2: who deliver viral content. Okay, again, I would pose the question,
Speaker 2: how is that a bad thing? And it goes on
Speaker 2: to say that the content need need not be new
Speaker 2: or revelatory, or even particularly revelatory to succeed. Watch that
Speaker 2: forty three minute video and ask yourself, is this relevant?
Speaker 2: Is this revelatory? As the New York Times says, I
Speaker 2: think it is? I think it is. Well, where does
Speaker 2: the New York Times go, of course, to get so
Speaker 2: called expert comment on this? Where would you think they
Speaker 2: would go? They would go to Darryl L. Linnville of
Speaker 2: the Media Forensics Hub whatever that is at Clemson University,
Speaker 2: who tracks how social media is used to disseminate propaganda.
Speaker 2: That's where you know, you'd figure they would go go
Speaker 2: to a college professor. I guarantee you he'll give it
Speaker 2: to you straight right down the line. There'll be no
Speaker 2: liberal bias there. It goes on to say this guy,
Speaker 2: Daryl Linnville, professor Lindeville, they all have goals that aligne
Speaker 2: and they're all pointed in the same direction. And that
Speaker 2: is because again, you New York Times won't do your job,
Speaker 2: so citizens have to do it. And I know you
Speaker 2: don't like it because at some point, hopefully at least,
Speaker 2: it's going to put you out of business. They hate
Speaker 2: this well anyway, over the past, it goes on. Over
Speaker 2: the past two years, pro Trump content creators have covered
Speaker 2: dozens of protests, political rallies, and natural disasters, and they've
Speaker 2: actually marched with are you ready anti Muslim activists? Oh no,
Speaker 2: and embedded with immigration officials on raids. How is that
Speaker 2: a bad thing?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Citizens ride with cops all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again, with the situation with Ice, what do they have
Speaker 2: to hide? Why wouldn't they want to do something like that.
Speaker 2: But again, this all boils down to New York Times
Speaker 2: won't do their job, not be because they can't. I mean,
Speaker 2: like I said, They've got investigative reporters out the wazoo,
Speaker 2: but man, they ain't touching this because guess what, it
Speaker 2: doesn't fit with their narrative. They could care less about
Speaker 2: the truth. They could care less about informing the public.
Speaker 2: The story goes on to say in September, talking about
Speaker 2: mister Shirley, he confronted a group of men selling what
Speaker 2: appeared to be counterfeit watches in Lower Manhattan, calling them
Speaker 2: quote illegal scammers close quote. Less than a month later,
Speaker 2: the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency arrested several of the
Speaker 2: same men in a targeted rate and New York Times
Speaker 2: let me ask you, how is that a bad thing?
Speaker 2: How is that a bad thing? You're not doing your job.
Speaker 2: Somebody has to step up and do it well. And
Speaker 2: it goes on. Little has proved as viral as his
Speaker 2: portrayal of Somali's in Minnesota. Mister Shirley traveled to the
Speaker 2: state in July to cover what he called the quote
Speaker 2: rise of Islam close quote with on the street interviews
Speaker 2: with Somali Americans. Is there a problem there with that?
Speaker 2: He returned soon after. He returned soon after. Mister Trump,
Speaker 2: during a televised cabinet meeting early this month, called the
Speaker 2: members of the dysphoria garbage who had ripped off taxpayers.
Speaker 2: You know, honestly, I don't know that I would have
Speaker 2: used that word garbage, but I don't have any problem
Speaker 2: with the President using it. Garbage who ripped off taxpayers.
Speaker 2: I'd say that's pretty accurate, isn't it? Nine billion dollars
Speaker 2: and counting. Mister Shirley's latest video appears to have been
Speaker 2: filmed on December seventeenth in and around Minneapolis, where he
Speaker 2: knocks on the doors of numerous childcare and autism centers.
Speaker 2: In some cases, there is no answer. When someone does
Speaker 2: open up, Mister Shirley demand to see whether there are
Speaker 2: children inside, but has never shown any. That's why the
Speaker 2: New York Times, the Washington Post, ABCCBS, NBC, that's what
Speaker 2: they should be doing. That's what they should be doing.
Speaker 2: But this twenty three year old citizen journalist, if you will,
Speaker 2: has done more on this story than all of those
Speaker 2: outfits combined. And it's not even close. That goes on
Speaker 2: to say prosecutors have exposed financial abuses in Minnesota's social
Speaker 2: safety Net program for years. They brought charges in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two and have since said they believe that more
Speaker 2: than nine billion dollars was stolen across several of the programs. Okay,
Speaker 2: let me read this sentence to you for all of
Speaker 2: you that think you know this is just up piling
Speaker 2: on blaming everything on the Smalley community. Again, I repeat,
Speaker 2: this is the New York Times reporting to date, ninety
Speaker 2: eight people have been charged, nearly all of them Somali Americans.
Speaker 2: Once again, to date, ninety eight people have been charged,
Speaker 2: nearly all of them Somali Americans. By the way, the
Speaker 2: specific count as I have it, there were ninety eight
Speaker 2: people charged, as they said, eighty five of them five
Speaker 2: out of ninety eight are of Somali descent. So I
Speaker 2: think that's about the only accurate, only accurate thing that's
Speaker 2: in this New York Times story. They're quoting someone here.
Speaker 2: Who are they quoting. We don't know if children were
Speaker 2: or were not present at the time the video was taken.
Speaker 2: That's what the Department of Children, Youth and Families said.
Speaker 2: In a statement regarding the video, When our licensers have
Speaker 2: conducted visits to the buildings, it added, there have been
Speaker 2: children present. Well again, take forty three minutes out of
Speaker 2: your day to watch Nick Shirley's forty three minute video.
Speaker 2: These guys he shows up, and Shirley does, He's got
Speaker 2: another guy with him. He shows up there, and there's
Speaker 2: some Maloy's milling around out there, and he said, hey,
Speaker 2: do people go to these schools? None of them can
Speaker 2: answer anything. Where are the kids? None of them can answer.
Speaker 2: They can't. And these buildings that they went to, these
Speaker 2: so called learning centers, they all have their windows blacked out,
Speaker 2: you know, with some kind of covering. So you me
Speaker 2: and a citizen that wants to help with respect to
Speaker 2: wasting tax dollars. He tries to go there. He can't
Speaker 2: see anything in there. I mean, everything's okay, though, you know,
Speaker 2: no reason to worry about it, no reason to get
Speaker 2: all riled up about this New York Times. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: watched the video again, forty three minutes. You know you
Speaker 2: got New Year's even New Year's Day. It's worth your time, okay.
Speaker 2: In a statement, Abigail Jackson, a White House spokeswoman said
Speaker 2: that quote, the country should be deeply appreciative to surely
Speaker 2: for shining a light on this issue. And here we go.
Speaker 2: The legacy media should have taken notes. And it looks
Speaker 2: like the New York Time has based on this article.
Speaker 2: But it's what you would expect. No support for the guy,
Speaker 2: no words of encouragement for the guy, you know, just criticism,
Speaker 2: and they have. This is the New York Times article
Speaker 2: again in parentheses. Among the news organizations that have covered
Speaker 2: the issue extensively are the Minnesota Star Tribune, the Minnesota Reformer,
Speaker 2: Sahan Journey Journal, whatever the hell that is. Oh, and
Speaker 2: here's one this outfit's going to give it to you.
Speaker 2: They're gonna give it to you straight, with no bias.
Speaker 2: Minnesota Public Radio and they do have local television stations,
Speaker 2: some of which, it would appear, did some good reporting
Speaker 2: on this. But you know, according to this New York
Speaker 2: Times article, we should all rest assured, not worry about it,
Speaker 2: and we don't need citizen journalists because the Minnesota Star Tribune,
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Reformer, Sahan Journal, and Minnesota Public Radio are
Speaker 2: all over it. They're all over it. Anyway. I could
Speaker 2: go on and on on this and if I had time,
Speaker 2: I would, but I want to hear what you have
Speaker 2: to say about this. I've been talking about this in
Speaker 2: the last two three days and people are really interested.
Speaker 2: Seven four nine, seven thousand, eight hundred. The big one
Speaker 2: are the numbers. The lines will be open, so please
Speaker 2: call let me know what you're thinking. Mike Allen seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW Hey, right back, Mike Allan, impoor sloany, seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW Well. During the break, my very industrious producer
Speaker 2: Dave Keaton found a video that I guess was released
Speaker 2: yesterday in Columbus, so all that anticipation was accurate. There
Speaker 2: is they are alleging something up there, and the Columbus Dispatch,
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to pay for it if you
Speaker 2: want to read their articles does have a headline Ohio
Speaker 2: GOP lawmakers seek daycare fraud investigation after viral claims. It
Speaker 2: goes about two and a half minutes. So David and
Speaker 2: I decided we're going to play it for you now
Speaker 2: I'm hearing it for the first time, as are you,
Speaker 2: So Dave, could you please play that. It's Anthony Rubin
Speaker 2: from the muckraker who did this as a daycase saying
Speaker 2: by Somalias and.
Speaker 5: Stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen any kids in this place here?
Speaker 2: No, not that I know.
Speaker 6: I've just seen it the building itself. I've never seen
Speaker 6: nobody come out the building or go into building.
Speaker 1: Ever seen anybody over there.
Speaker 7: So right now we are in front of the Great
Speaker 7: Minds Learning Academy. This is one of the many daycare
Speaker 7: centers learning centers here in Columbus, Ohio that are associated
Speaker 7: with the Somali community.
Speaker 2: As you know, Nick Shirley.
Speaker 7: Put out a bomb show report about all these fraudulent
Speaker 7: daycare facilities in Minneapolis, Minnesota. So we wanted to come
Speaker 7: out to Columbus, Ohio and investigate what might be going
Speaker 7: on in the second largest Somali community in the United
Speaker 7: States of America.
Speaker 1: So this place here is the first place.
Speaker 7: We're gonna knock and we're gonna see if anybody picks
Speaker 7: up or answers the door.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: So it's locked.
Speaker 7: We're ringing the doorbellt here, knocking on the door. Nobody's
Speaker 7: picking up, so we're not sure what the hell's going
Speaker 7: on here, Bud. We're gonna we're gonna get out of here.
Speaker 7: Now there's somebody over there.
Speaker 1: How you doing, sir.
Speaker 7: I'm sure you see the reports over the weekend about
Speaker 7: all the daycare centers in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: We just wanted to see what was going on. Did
Speaker 1: you you know anything about this place here?
Speaker 2: It's a daycase center everybody some alliance and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see any kids there?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 8: Because they used the back door, so I won't to
Speaker 8: know if they is they used the back door.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never seen nobody come in, but they used
Speaker 5: the back door.
Speaker 1: But but have you ever seen any kid you live
Speaker 1: around here?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, in this building right here?
Speaker 1: Hey, you're in this building. Yeah, you're in this building too.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. Have you ever seen any kids
Speaker 1: in this place here?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Not that I know.
Speaker 6: If they used the back so I've never seen nobody
Speaker 6: come out the front. You've never seen anybody over there.
Speaker 6: I've just seen it the building itself. I've never seen
Speaker 6: nobody come out the building.
Speaker 2: Or go into the building.
Speaker 7: So it came to the back, just like those guys suggested.
Speaker 7: And there's nothing here. You know, we can keep poking around,
Speaker 7: but there's so many of these centers to go to.
Speaker 1: We're just getting started, so we're gonna go around the city.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a few more of these places.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see if we can get anybody to talk
Speaker 1: to us.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned. Well, there you go. I'm unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 2: it seems to me that one. It's shorter, but it's
Speaker 2: worse than the one that Nick Shirley did. You know,
Speaker 2: no kids. I think he went to two of them,
Speaker 2: if I was listening to it correctly, No kids at
Speaker 2: the Great Minds Learning Academy. So I guess they went
Speaker 2: to a second one daycare center and they asked a guy.
Speaker 2: It sounded like he was just maybe kind of a
Speaker 2: bystander or something, who I guess has an office. And
Speaker 2: again I didn't see it. I just heard it for
Speaker 2: the first time. Doesn't see any kids, and the kids
Speaker 2: use the back door. Now gee, why would that be?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, this is unbelievable. Now, I wonder,
Speaker 2: I just wonder if the New York Times would be
Speaker 2: concerned about this, or they would send one of their
Speaker 2: liberal biased reporters to cover it. See, it doesn't fit
Speaker 2: their narrative, the narrative of Trump bad. No matter what,
Speaker 2: you know, we can't keep an eye on where our
Speaker 2: tax dollars go. Anything that has to do with Islam, race,
Speaker 2: or anything along those lines, we ain't touching. We're not
Speaker 2: going to touch that because God forbid, somebody might call
Speaker 2: us an islamophobe or a racist. It stinks. It stinks
Speaker 2: billions of dollars of our tax money, and you gotta
Speaker 2: have citizen journalists go uncover it. They're the only ones
Speaker 2: in the journalism world. Except for the notable exception of
Speaker 2: The Epoch, Time and Janis Heisel, no other major media
Speaker 2: outlets are truly covering this. ABC, NBC, and CBS. You know,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the latest figures from the Media Research Center,
Speaker 2: but at the beginning of this thing, I think two
Speaker 2: out of those three gave them zero minutes of coverage.
Speaker 2: The other one I gave them like three. I just
Speaker 2: can't bring myself to watch any of those three stations.
Speaker 2: So there you have it once again. And I do
Speaker 2: believe I could be wrong about this. I think Governor
Speaker 2: Dwine did make some kind of statement. I'm going to
Speaker 2: check that out, and if I'm wrong, I'll let you know.
Speaker 2: But you know, here we go again, And I know
Speaker 2: I sound like a broken record. I get it, I do.
Speaker 2: This is is sir, Tippitty Iceberg. It really is. Now
Speaker 2: you know what city is next?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Maybe Springfield, Ohio. It has a very large, comparatively so
Speaker 2: Somali population. I guess we'll see. But darn it, we
Speaker 2: just ought to stop picking on those Somalis. We really should.
Speaker 2: It's not fair. I mean ninety or excuse me, eighty
Speaker 2: five of the ninety eight people charged so far happen
Speaker 2: to be of Somali descent. But hey, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. You can raise the R word anytime
Speaker 2: you want, Jess, throw it on out there. You know,
Speaker 2: who cares if it's accurate, who cares if it's based
Speaker 2: on any kind of facts at all. Let's just throw
Speaker 2: it out there. I'm telling you right now, you cannot
Speaker 2: have these people, and by these people, I mean these liberals.
Speaker 2: You cannot put them in charge of things like this.
Speaker 2: You just can't. You can't because they're not gonna watch
Speaker 2: your backs, they're not gonna watch your money. They are
Speaker 2: more concerned, and they've proven this time and time and
Speaker 2: time again in for illegal immigrants, they're more concerned with
Speaker 2: them than they are you and I ordinary American citizens.
Speaker 2: And I think people have had just about enough of it,
Speaker 2: and boy, this thing is just gonna drive the whole
Speaker 2: message home and drive the nail further into their coffin figuratively,
Speaker 2: I said, figuratively, I'll tell you what, I gotta take
Speaker 2: a short break or I'm gonna have a heart attack.
Speaker 2: Mike Allen seven hundred WLW nine fifty News Radio, seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW Mike Allen in for Sloany on New Year's
Speaker 2: Eve and callers say, hey, wait a minute, it's New
Speaker 2: Year's Eve. Y'all should be doing fluff stuff. And I
Speaker 2: hear you, But boy, I tell you what, when there's
Speaker 2: a story like this, you gotta do it now. I'm
Speaker 2: on tomorrow, and unless something blows up, I got a
Speaker 2: lot of good fluff stuff. It really is some kind
Speaker 2: of interesting stuff. You know, that Year in Review twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, that kind of thing. So anyway, we'll do
Speaker 2: the fluff when there's not a big story that should
Speaker 2: be covered, and honestly, just be honest about it. It
Speaker 2: really urinates me off for the New York Times on
Speaker 2: their freaking high horse say, oh, this citizen journalist, he
Speaker 2: didn't do this, he didn't do that, Well, why didn't
Speaker 2: you do it?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 2: And you know they're not going to did have to
Speaker 2: make a correction, though, and I'm happy to do it.
Speaker 2: If I say something wrong, I want to be corrected.
Speaker 2: I said the Haitians in Springfield, Ohio. And you know,
Speaker 2: I think I've told you. I've been using AI quite
Speaker 2: a bit and I've found it to be accurate. So
Speaker 2: I googled are there some Alians in Springfield, Ohio? AI
Speaker 2: came back, Yes, there are Somali's in Springfield, Ohio, though
Speaker 2: the community in that city is smaller and less prominent
Speaker 2: in public discussions compared to the much larger Haitian immigration population.
Speaker 2: So anyway, mistake made, Mistake corrected. Let's go to the
Speaker 2: phones here. Let's talk to Fred in Saint Petersburg. Hey,
Speaker 2: good morning, Fred. Are you there? We got Fred. I'm
Speaker 2: not hearing anything, so I guess Fred. Oh, there you go. Fred.
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 9: I'm doing fine.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 9: You mentioned the New York Times saying that the newspapers
Speaker 9: up in Minneapolis and there in those areas have been
Speaker 9: covering this. That's a lie. That is a bold based lie.
Speaker 9: They haven't been. They only started covering this in the
Speaker 9: last three or four months.
Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me. It does.
Speaker 9: I'm serious. That's that's a bold faced lie. And another
Speaker 9: another thing, the Columbus mess. Now, Uh, there was a
Speaker 9: guy that up and uh got convicted for this rod
Speaker 9: up up there in Minnesota. And in the trial, I
Speaker 9: think it was he mentioned he bought with some of
Speaker 9: that money a restaurant in Columbus.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 9: I don't know where I heard this. It may have
Speaker 9: been you, I don't, I don't remember, but somebody was
Speaker 9: talking about these somalis were they would open the store,
Speaker 9: a little convenience store, and across the street or next
Speaker 9: door or something, they'd open a restaurant and the people
Speaker 9: with smiles would come in there and with their ev
Speaker 9: T cards buy a bunch of food, and then they'd
Speaker 9: taken over the restaurant and sell it. You heard about that?
Speaker 2: I have not, But you know what, I'm serious. Nothing
Speaker 2: surprises me. Nothing surprises me. You know. I think you
Speaker 2: told me earlier in the week, Brad, that you heard
Speaker 2: something about something brewing in Columbus. A lot of people
Speaker 2: have heard that in Lo and behold here we go.
Speaker 2: Not a lot known yet. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: had a chance to listen to that video that I
Speaker 2: just played there but sounds like something very very similar
Speaker 2: to what's going on in Minnesota.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I heard it. And you know what, that
Speaker 9: Shirley guy, he does a lot of videos, not just
Speaker 9: this right in the past, he's done videos about riots
Speaker 9: or whatever. I can't remember exactly, and he does a
Speaker 9: lot of shorts too. This Tribali things just just blowed up,
Speaker 9: you know. I mean, well, I think it's wonderful that
Speaker 9: this is coming out. And one more thing, Yeah, one
Speaker 9: more thing. What Trump has been doing trying to fix
Speaker 9: all this in the last year. So there's one common
Speaker 9: denominator that boils down to all this problems we've had
Speaker 9: in his Democrats. You know, I hate to say that, but.
Speaker 2: It's true everything.
Speaker 9: I mean, you name one thing since Obamacare, back when
Speaker 9: Obama was president. Name one that's not the Democrats vault.
Speaker 2: It's hard, anybody, it's hard to do that, Fred, and
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I agree with you also.
Speaker 2: You hate to paint with a broad brush. Sometimes it's appropriate. Though,
Speaker 2: where are the Democrats in the House, the Senate wherever,
Speaker 2: screaming about this. I haven't heard any of them. If
Speaker 2: anything cries out for bipartisan support. It's fixing this stuff,
Speaker 2: but they won't do it. They sure won't do it
Speaker 2: in Minnesota because they don't want to lose that Somali vote.
Speaker 2: And that stinks. It stinks to high ebn.
Speaker 9: Yes, and you know we need to start shunning Democrats.
Speaker 5: Yep, I just shut them.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: You look at things and I guess the for the
Speaker 2: mid terms in the House, it's about fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: Fifty percent Republican support Republicans fifty percent support Democrats. I
Speaker 2: would never u strongly criticize someone in this country for
Speaker 2: their political positions. But what in the hell are they thinking? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't like Trump, we get it. He says things
Speaker 2: that make people angry that he doesn't have to say.
Speaker 2: We get that, But how can you not support what
Speaker 2: he's doing. Just hold your nose, close your eyes, you know,
Speaker 2: and vote for the man. I don't understand that, and
Speaker 2: that's worrisome to me. You know.
Speaker 9: I try to pay attention and a lot of people
Speaker 9: don't pay attention. I get that, But paying attention if
Speaker 9: you're a Democrat, I would be so embarrassed. I know,
Speaker 9: I'd hang my head in shame. I get it, and
Speaker 9: I wouldn't want to be seen in public.
Speaker 2: But maybe Fred, maybe this is the thing that tips
Speaker 2: the scale. I mean, you just can't have this stuff.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, Fred as always, thank you, you know,
Speaker 2: and I really do wonder about that. How can someone
Speaker 2: you know, democrat, goes out, works every day, puts food
Speaker 2: on the table for his family. You know, kids go
Speaker 2: to school, wife probably works too. I mean, how can
Speaker 2: they look at what's going on in this country and say, gee,
Speaker 2: I want to vote for Nancy Pelosi. I want to
Speaker 2: vote for you know, Chuck Schumer. I just I don't
Speaker 2: understand it. I respect the fact that I'm not always right.
Speaker 2: Conservatives aren't always right. However, in this situation and so
Speaker 2: many others, it is overwhelming. It really is overwhelming. And
Speaker 2: one thing about a liberal, and I've said this for years,
Speaker 2: over and over and over again, the main trait of
Speaker 2: liberalism is arrogance. Arrogance in that they can never admit
Speaker 2: when they're wrong. They will never listen to anyone else's
Speaker 2: point of you. They are right by God, and don't
Speaker 2: try to tell them that they aren't. And because in
Speaker 2: their mind their cause is so just, they're allowed to
Speaker 2: do anything to further it. You know, you're an elected
Speaker 2: official in the state of Minnesota. You're the governor, you're
Speaker 2: the attorney general, and you're not going to comment on
Speaker 2: this thing or do anything about it. Of course, now
Speaker 2: Walt's oh, he's doing all these things because you are
Speaker 2: afraid that you might be labeled a racist or an
Speaker 2: islamophobe fobe. That's bull, you know what it is. And
Speaker 2: the people in this country are getting darn tired of it.
Speaker 2: They really are. And you know, as I just said,
Speaker 2: this may be the thing that finally brings people together
Speaker 2: in that they say, We're not going to take this anymore.
Speaker 2: I work too hard for my money, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to see it nine billion in counter of
Speaker 2: it wasted on stuff like this, daycare centers that can't
Speaker 2: even spell learning. It was the leering LAA RNG center.
Speaker 2: Daycare centers that don't have any kids, but they're getting
Speaker 2: millions of bucks. Daycare centers where they have to put
Speaker 2: black paper on the windows so you and I average
Speaker 2: citizens or citizen journalists, they can't look in and see
Speaker 2: what the heck's going on. At some point, you know,
Speaker 2: the center is just not going to hold for these people.
Speaker 2: It's not at some point, and you know what, I
Speaker 2: don't understand why we really haven't reached it a long
Speaker 2: time ago. But like I said, perhaps this is what
Speaker 2: drives people over the edge. I guess we'll see. Hey,
Speaker 2: we got to take a break, but I do want
Speaker 2: to say that we will have open lines from ten
Speaker 2: thirty to eleven this morning. But when we come back
Speaker 2: at ten o'clock, we're going to talk to attorney and
Speaker 2: legal analyst Steve Gooden. There's a situation again Minnesota brewing
Speaker 2: up here. Maybe it's not just the executive branch up
Speaker 2: there that has some problems with truthfulness and honesty. Perhaps
Speaker 2: it might be at least one judge, perhaps two more,
Speaker 2: and that is starting to come out now and Steve
Speaker 2: has looked at it. He's going to give us his
Speaker 2: opinion when we get back. Mike Allen in for Sloane,
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. I want to be an American idiot,
Speaker 2: Kenna Wait News Radio, seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in
Speaker 2: for Scott Sloan. But continuing with the narrative that is
Speaker 2: coming to play with respect to the Somali community in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: and now we find out in Columbus that's just starting
Speaker 2: to break the corruption in Minnesota may not be limited
Speaker 2: to the executive branch, to wit, Governor Tim Waltz and
Speaker 2: Attorney Keith I Love Louis Farrakahan Ellison. It may also,
Speaker 2: and I underline may, it may also bleed over to
Speaker 2: the judicial branch as well. Just bear with me here
Speaker 2: because I want to lay this out for you, and
Speaker 2: then we're going to get Steve's take on it. This
Speaker 2: is from the Daily Mail. I think it lays it
Speaker 2: out pretty good. The story a judge in Minneapolis had
Speaker 2: sparked rage after she decided to overturn a taxpayer fraud
Speaker 2: conviction that saw a husband and wife go down for
Speaker 2: robbing seven point two million people seven point two million
Speaker 2: dollars from people. Guy by the name of him going
Speaker 2: to try to get this right. Ab Abdefada Yusuf. He's
Speaker 2: forty four, was found guilty of robbing innocent taxpayers through
Speaker 2: a home healthcare company called Promise Health. In August, a
Speaker 2: jury found that he and his wife lu Ahmed rem
Speaker 2: a dec eful medicaid fraud scheme out of a mailbox.
Speaker 2: Like so many of these are at the so called
Speaker 2: medical company and use the money for lavish shopping sprees,
Speaker 2: including trips to name to name brand designers like Coach Canada, Goose, Nike,
Speaker 2: Michael Cors and to purchase high end cars. That's according
Speaker 2: to prosecutors. But in a shocking twist of events, and
Speaker 2: months after Yusuf was found responsible for directing the massive scam,
Speaker 2: Judge Sarah West decided last week that the jury was
Speaker 2: all wrong and he should be let off the hook.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what Judge West did. Here to talk
Speaker 2: about it is legal analyst Steve Gooden. Steve as you
Speaker 2: know if you're a regular listener to this channel. He
Speaker 2: is a former state prosecutor, worked for me in the
Speaker 2: Prosecutor's office, former federal prosecutor for former Army Jack military prosecutor,
Speaker 2: and longtime criminal defense attorney with the law firm of
Speaker 2: port Wright where he handles complicated civil and criminal cases. Steve,
Speaker 2: sorry for taking your thunder there, but I just wanted
Speaker 2: to lay it out for people.
Speaker 3: Well, it is complicated, and I'm glad you took the
Speaker 3: time to set it up because it really is. And
Speaker 3: again we don't know everything that's happened here, but just
Speaker 3: from a thirty thousand foot view, it really is outrageous.
Speaker 2: Well not going to rupt you. I promise this'd be
Speaker 2: the only time. You have a hell of a lot
Speaker 2: of experience. You've been around a long time like me.
Speaker 2: How many times have you either been involved with or
Speaker 2: even heard of, a judge taking away a jury verdict
Speaker 2: after way after the fact. How many? And I'll tell you,
Speaker 2: I've been in the system in one way, shape or
Speaker 2: form for fifty one years. I've never seen it.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm in my twenty sixth year. I know
Speaker 3: of one case where it happened. It wasn't my case,
Speaker 3: and it was overturned on appeal, Okay, once out of
Speaker 3: the hut. I mean it was in a civil case
Speaker 3: and it was in a dispute over jury instructions. Never
Speaker 3: in a criminal case, and never ever ever in a
Speaker 3: criminal case. I mean, occasionally you'll hear something like this
Speaker 3: happened once in a blue moon in a civil case,
Speaker 3: you know, a big dollar civil case where the jury
Speaker 3: instructions are complex, and then really deligation and appeal just
Speaker 3: moves to the jury instruction. To occasionally hear something like that,
Speaker 3: But then a criminal case. Never, And it's just absurd
Speaker 3: to me. I mean, I mean, what we really have,
Speaker 3: You've got a couple of different big things going on.
Speaker 3: I would note this is an elected state court judge,
Speaker 3: and we know in that area, and I've been out
Speaker 3: to Minnesota. I've actually handled a couple of cases out
Speaker 3: there over the years. Of Minneapolis, you know, it's a
Speaker 3: city between that and Saint Paul. It's very much kind
Speaker 3: of like what we have here. Henhamton County is a
Speaker 3: lot like Hamilton County in.
Speaker 5: A lot of ways.
Speaker 3: But they have had this influx of Somali immigrants over
Speaker 3: the years, and they really have really flexed their political
Speaker 3: muscle in that area. You've seen sort of Governor Waltz
Speaker 3: cow howing to them and you know, bringing the Somali
Speaker 3: flag famously, you know, into the governor's mansion at one point.
Speaker 3: And you see that the mayor of Minneapolis absolutely chases
Speaker 3: those votes and goes to There's all these videos of
Speaker 3: them online dancing at Somali festivals and you and eating
Speaker 3: Somali food and so forth. So it's a big voting
Speaker 3: block as well. So I you know, I don't want
Speaker 3: to cast dispersions on this judge about the politics of it,
Speaker 3: but it does as we see other elected officials really
Speaker 3: chasing the Somali vote in Hennipon County. You make sure
Speaker 3: wonder what's going on here, And also note that this judge,
Speaker 3: she's one of three. There are now three state court
Speaker 3: judges who have tossed some of these convictions on very
Speaker 3: strange grounds. I mean, basically, all she says in her
Speaker 3: decision is that, well, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence here.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you, having litigated financial crimes on both
Speaker 3: sides in criminal cases, I can tell you that they're
Speaker 3: almost always circumstantial crimes. I mean no, I mean, they're
Speaker 3: paper crimes. There's never like one witness. These are elaborate
Speaker 3: scams that play out over months and years at times.
Speaker 3: They are all driven by paperwork and false paperwork, and
Speaker 3: that's just what they are, by their nature circumstantial. So
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, there's very rarely just one person
Speaker 3: in a room who sees it. You know, the difference
Speaker 3: of direct evidence, you know, for the circumstantial evidence. Direct
Speaker 3: evidence is there's a direct witness or an admission or
Speaker 3: something of that nature. Circumstantial is when you go back
Speaker 3: through and piece together what happened through documents and other things.
Speaker 3: And that's classic what they do here. In fact, I
Speaker 3: love this. In Minneapolis, they call this we don't have
Speaker 3: this terminal Ohio, they call this theft by swindle. These
Speaker 3: guys were convicted of theft by sweaty. Yeah it is,
Speaker 3: and it's absolutely on point. I mean, you know, and
Speaker 3: I've seen these and I've worked on some of these cases.
Speaker 3: You know, you have tremendous amounts of federal dollars that
Speaker 3: go into different programs for home health care and trialcare
Speaker 3: and things of that nature. The whole healthcare is a
Speaker 3: really big one right now because we have a lot
Speaker 3: of aging baby boomers who we're trying to stay in
Speaker 3: their homes, and they really just aren't enough government agencies
Speaker 3: to manage those funds, so they end up hiring these
Speaker 3: independent contractors. I went through this with my dad a
Speaker 3: few years ago, where he had someone coming in a
Speaker 3: few days a week.
Speaker 5: Through his Medicaid.
Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with it unless you have some
Speaker 3: fly by night company that is dummying the time sheets
Speaker 3: or not even providing the services and just getting the
Speaker 3: Medicaid which dollars, which is.
Speaker 5: What happened here.
Speaker 3: And I will note the Trump administration apparently yesterday suspended
Speaker 3: all payments to the state of Minnesota, the whole state
Speaker 3: until they can get a better handle on this, because
Speaker 3: what they're saying, you know, the one the one report
Speaker 3: that's come out is that this could be in the
Speaker 3: billions of dollars. But these these Somali groups who've kind
Speaker 3: of figured out that these programs are not being properly
Speaker 3: monitored at the state level. It's federal dollars, but the
Speaker 3: state administers them and then passes them on down to
Speaker 3: these independent businesses, and it's a major loophole to swindle
Speaker 3: the taxpayers. So, you know, it's a really bad thing
Speaker 3: and I cannot, for the life we understand why this
Speaker 3: judge did this absent political pressure.
Speaker 2: Let me let me do this, Steve, if I may.
Speaker 2: I've got quotes from two of the jurors that I
Speaker 2: want to read to you and get your thoughts on it. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is reporting out of Fox News. A guy by
Speaker 2: the name of Ben Walfoot, he apparently was the jury
Speaker 2: for person in Usef's case, said that the decision to
Speaker 2: convict wasn't a complicated one. And I'm quoting the jury
Speaker 2: for person here. Quote. It was not a difficult decision.
Speaker 2: What'so the deliberations took probably four hours at most. Based
Speaker 2: off the state's evidence that was presented, it was beyond
Speaker 2: a reasonable doubt. I am shocked. I'm shocked because all
Speaker 2: of the evidence that was presented to us in the
Speaker 2: obvious guilt that we saw based off the based off
Speaker 2: the said evidence. Okay, then one more, I've got this.
Speaker 2: This is out of Daily Mail. I don't think there's again, No,
Speaker 2: there's not a name attached to this one. Another juror
Speaker 2: on the case echoed Walflet's we just read his thing,
Speaker 2: stanced telling the outlet, telling the Daily Mail quote. We
Speaker 2: didn't take our job lightly. We went through a lot
Speaker 2: of evidence and discussed a lot. Took our time, but
Speaker 2: we all came to an agreement pretty easily. Now, question,
Speaker 2: why would a judge ignore twelve citizens who you know,
Speaker 2: were subject of we're dire questions and everything else, ignore
Speaker 2: that and submit her own judgment on this. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's an answer, do you know?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, the only thing that I think she glancingly
Speaker 3: mentioned sort of in her decision is I guess there
Speaker 3: was something. There was some thought that the guy's brother
Speaker 3: could have been involved in the scam in some way,
Speaker 3: but again that was for his attorneys to flesh out.
Speaker 3: And one of the things I think is really disgusting,
Speaker 3: and this is this isn't just in this case or
Speaker 3: in this judge. This is a trend right now, particularly
Speaker 3: among a lot of younger judges. And we see it
Speaker 3: here in Cincinnati two. Which is this disregard for the
Speaker 3: jury system. Yes, and we saw this in the in
Speaker 3: this we were talking earlier this week about Elwood Jones
Speaker 3: and what happened. It's, you know, somewhere lost in that,
Speaker 3: you know, is this decision, you know, in the decision
Speaker 3: to clear Elwood Jones, is the idea that twelve people
Speaker 3: spent weeks in a room curing the evidence and made
Speaker 3: a decision and that's all just been wiped out. And
Speaker 3: it is infuriating if you were a juror and you
Speaker 3: take time off work, and a lot of places don't
Speaker 3: even really pay you for the time off. You sit there,
Speaker 3: you do your civic duty, you do the stressful thing.
Speaker 3: You sit there for eight nine hours a day, listen
Speaker 3: to evidence, make a decision. You know, really, you know,
Speaker 3: put your heart and soul into these cases, as most
Speaker 3: jurors do, and then just to have it wiped out
Speaker 3: with a stroke of a pen and to really have
Speaker 3: no good explanations for why that happened. I mean, it
Speaker 3: really does kind of strike at the heart of the system.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a big believer in juries.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you can't.
Speaker 3: Explain, particularly in a criminal case, if you can't explain
Speaker 3: what happened and why it was criminal to twelve average
Speaker 3: citizens with no real legal background, then.
Speaker 5: You shouldn't convict them. I mean, you know, it's that simple.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, it has to it doesn't just need
Speaker 3: to be a crime that's written in a law book somewhere,
Speaker 3: but it has to be something that actually offends, you know,
Speaker 3: the conscience of the community. It's why the founding fathers,
Speaker 3: you know, put the jury system right at the heart
Speaker 3: of our system. So yeah, that is kind of this
Speaker 3: trend among these more progressive judges right now, is that well,
Speaker 3: the juries were just misled or kind of dumb or
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're thinking here, but I mean
Speaker 3: I think it's a really bad thing. It's such a
Speaker 3: terrible precedent, and hopefully there's some pushback here, but it
Speaker 3: does make you wonder, and I think it makes jurisynical
Speaker 3: if you're going to go and put all this time
Speaker 3: and effort into something like this, and again, take all
Speaker 3: this time, make sacrifices in terms of childcare and work
Speaker 3: or whatever else you got going in your life, and
Speaker 3: then just be told by some judge for political reasons
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean anything. I mean, that's a bad day.
Speaker 2: It really is. And you know you touched on this, Steve,
Speaker 2: and even the judge, mistakenly, I believe, said this criticizing
Speaker 2: circumstantial evidence. As you know from all the cases you've tried,
Speaker 2: as I know for all the cases I've tried. In
Speaker 2: many cases, circumstantial evidence is the strongest evidence. And you're correct, Steve.
Speaker 2: In a white collar case, that's pretty much all you have.
Speaker 2: And it's not bad evidence. More often than not, it's
Speaker 2: strong evidence.
Speaker 5: Well, well, of course it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, you know, half the time, people
Speaker 3: are always you know, going through these, you know, thousands
Speaker 3: of emails thinking there's going to be some perfect email
Speaker 3: where someone you know, among the co conspirators where they say, hey,
Speaker 3: we're this is the precise crime we're going to create there,
Speaker 3: and this is how we're going to do this scheme
Speaker 3: and broad it doesn't work that way. That's not how
Speaker 3: human beings do these things. And there tend not to
Speaker 3: be documents. There tend not to be the of the
Speaker 3: precise scam. You have to piece it together after the fact.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just what it is. And it's that
Speaker 3: you know that classic thing that we always used to
Speaker 3: use in Void Hier I guess you know in the
Speaker 3: office of our former colleague day prem used to use
Speaker 3: it so much we actually asked them not to.
Speaker 5: About the cookie jar. Yeah, I mean, do you need
Speaker 5: to see.
Speaker 3: Somebody actually if you if you come home and you
Speaker 3: had a cookie jar and the cookie jar is empty,
Speaker 3: there's crumbs everywhere, and there's cookie crumbs on your kid's
Speaker 3: face and chocolate on his face. Do you need to
Speaker 3: have actually seen him get into the cookie jar to
Speaker 3: prove that he ate the cookies. No, you can use
Speaker 3: your common sense and make inferences from That's the classic
Speaker 3: circumstantial evidence, you know, example that is used to explain
Speaker 3: it to Jerry. So, yeah, when you see these payments
Speaker 3: flowing in, when you see a mailbox set up to
Speaker 3: accept them, when you see money going out in personal spending,
Speaker 3: that these folks don't have. And when you see no
Speaker 3: services being provided by this dummy company that was set up,
Speaker 3: that's circumstantial evidence of a massive fraud. So you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know. You don't need a confession at that point.
Speaker 3: There is no DNA evidence in a case like this.
Speaker 3: It is by its very nature circumstantial. And if you're
Speaker 3: going to say you can't make these cases circumstantially, you
Speaker 3: can't make them at all, You may as well just quit.
Speaker 3: The Attorney general out in I was handling this out
Speaker 3: in Minnesota is apparently furious as well. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: all they're all Democrats, but at this point they've actually
Speaker 3: turned on each other. And I know they're trying to
Speaker 3: appeal what the judge did here, and I think that's
Speaker 3: very appropriate under the circumstance.
Speaker 2: We shall see, we shall see. Hey, we only got
Speaker 2: about a minute and a half left legal issues aside.
Speaker 2: Just globally, Steve, what are your thoughts on this whole thing.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I've never seen anything like it. I
Speaker 2: think it's probably it's headed to be the worst scandal
Speaker 2: financially in this country's history. But what's your your thousand
Speaker 2: foot view on this? Thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's about to come home because you know,
Speaker 3: there is as you mentioned at the top of this segment,
Speaker 3: that there is a very large Somali population also in Columbus,
Speaker 3: and I know there's a lot of folks who are
Speaker 3: you know, who are starting to look there to see
Speaker 3: if this is a part of a pattern that these
Speaker 3: guys did. I would note though, I mean, this isn't
Speaker 3: really limited to the Somali immigrants. I mean, in one way,
Speaker 3: it shows that you know, this kind of corruption, this
Speaker 3: kind of swindle is unfortunately very American as well. I
Speaker 3: think the bigger issue is that we have so many
Speaker 3: dollars flowing into this sector that are just not properly monitored.
Speaker 3: You know that the opportunities for what theyways called freight fraud,
Speaker 3: waste and abuse are are are massive. You have a
Speaker 3: lot of very small companies getting a lot of dollars
Speaker 3: with just kind of based on their handwritten timesheets in
Speaker 3: some instances. So we need to be taking a huge
Speaker 3: look at how we do this. And I know we
Speaker 3: set aside a lot of money. Again, we have a
Speaker 3: very aging the baby boobier population is huge. It's a
Speaker 3: lot of money flowing there and a lot of it
Speaker 3: is going through these very small companies, so we're going
Speaker 3: to have to take a huge look at this otherwise.
Speaker 3: But I would I would get ready to see what's
Speaker 3: going on in Columbus.
Speaker 5: I mean the I mean, I know that there's a.
Speaker 3: Lot of a lot of attention being paid there. I
Speaker 3: think outside of Minneapolis, Columbus is the second bigest group
Speaker 3: of Somali immigrants in the US. So we'll a wait
Speaker 3: and see what's going on there.
Speaker 2: A guy by the name of Anthony Rubin, I guess
Speaker 2: we found out at the top of the show and
Speaker 2: we actually played it dropped about a two and a
Speaker 2: half minute video similar to the one that was dropped
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. So we'll see what happens from there. But
Speaker 2: really appreciate your take on this, Steve, very very helpful.
Speaker 3: Hey anytime, Mike, Happy New Year location.
Speaker 2: You too, Thank you. All right, Hey, we got to
Speaker 2: take a break. Button we get back your calls. Seven
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Speaker 2: are the numbers. Mike Allen in for Slowney seven hundred
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Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, we're going to take some calls here.
Speaker 2: Our friend Bobby g or Jay, I'm sorry, Hey Bobby,
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, buddy.
Speaker 4: Happy new year to you, my friend, faith, Flag, family
Speaker 4: and collective bargaining. I'm glad they brought in the A
Speaker 4: team today.
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's kind of you to say thank you.
Speaker 4: But hey, I tell you what, reflecting on twenty twenty five,
Speaker 4: you know, I hate to be this way, but we
Speaker 4: have hid it ninety five percent of the time. So
Speaker 4: do you have anything in the Cristal ball coming up
Speaker 4: for twenty six?
Speaker 2: Boy? Who knows? I mean, it's gonna be an interesting year.
Speaker 2: I think this Minnesota thing that I've been talking about
Speaker 2: for the last three days, that's gonna be a big, big,
Speaker 2: big part of it. Of course, at the end of
Speaker 2: the year, we're gonna have the midterms, which we'll tell
Speaker 2: the tale as to whether Donald Trump is truly a
Speaker 2: lame duck if we lose either one of the two
Speaker 2: Senate or House. I think the answer to that is yes.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of what I see, Bobby, What do
Speaker 2: you see?
Speaker 4: I see We're going to go ahead and extend the
Speaker 4: cultural a little bit more that I've discussed this summer
Speaker 4: I think will be hot and coming into South America.
Speaker 4: We're going to take more attention off Venezuela and put
Speaker 4: it down into Ecuador.
Speaker 2: You know, I tell you that way, I'm sorry, going
Speaker 2: to have.
Speaker 4: To support the no, no, no, we have to support the
Speaker 4: Ecuador and president. We've had contractors down there, I know,
Speaker 4: since first March, you know. And that way we got
Speaker 4: the bottom end of Columbian we have the top end also.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, And I've heard some people grumbling
Speaker 2: about Trump's attention to South America, but it's all about
Speaker 2: the Monroe Doctrine and that part of the world has
Speaker 2: been so ignored by us for so long that I
Speaker 2: think it's a wise move that he's doing that. And
Speaker 2: also Red China, they're making a play for a lot
Speaker 2: of those countries down there too, So we got to
Speaker 2: do it. I mean, the bottom line is he's doing
Speaker 2: what other presidents should have been doing but didn't want
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: We have to protect the Western hemisphere. And if you
Speaker 4: go into the Monroe and it also says that we
Speaker 4: will stay out of European affairs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know. Yesterday, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you were listening. I had a guest on that was
Speaker 2: talking about just that, the situation with the strategic plan
Speaker 2: that was just released not too long ago. Where in
Speaker 2: the past years it's been eurocentric, this one. Yeah, still
Speaker 2: concerns about Europe, but it's not the whole ball of
Speaker 2: wax though.
Speaker 4: Well, it will hurt us more if we ever have
Speaker 4: to deal with an embargo around Taiwan. Yeah, and their
Speaker 4: landing crafts have been completed yet almost a year now,
Speaker 4: and the three factories that they were building them in
Speaker 4: they went ahead and done other things with them. Oh.
Speaker 2: Really, they're prepared. They're prepared, and that's interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and all they have to do is the embargo
Speaker 4: around it, and they don't have to do any aerial
Speaker 4: or attacks or anything like that. The embargo will take
Speaker 4: care of it. And within seventy two hours, I guarantee
Speaker 4: you the world will feel the impact because of the CHIP, no.
Speaker 2: Question about it. And you know, Trump, unlike some other presidents,
Speaker 2: stood firm with Taiwan and make no mistake about it.
Speaker 2: And I know you really realize this, Bobby. The Chinese
Speaker 2: want Taiwan back, and they've wanted that, wanted it back
Speaker 2: ever since Chang Kai Shek was chased by Mao over
Speaker 2: to for most of Taiwan, and they believe strongly that
Speaker 2: that is a part of Red China. They want to
Speaker 2: do it. I also heard just I think it was yesterday,
Speaker 2: maybe the day before, that the Chinese jets are doing
Speaker 2: some very provocative flyovers, very very close to Taiwan. So
Speaker 2: he's spoiling for a fight. You know, I thought, and
Speaker 2: I said this more than once. I thought for sure
Speaker 2: that that president she would make a play for Taiwan
Speaker 2: during the Biden administration. You know, he's got to know
Speaker 2: if he drives out with Trump, Trump's going to respond.
Speaker 2: Biden probably wouldn't have.
Speaker 4: I see, it's going to be a hot summer. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the best way I can put it. You can
Speaker 4: call it a black Swan event or whatever you want to.
Speaker 4: And I tell people all the time, be prepared for
Speaker 4: the seventy two hour window. Yeah, they said, what are
Speaker 4: you talking about? And I said, you don't even have
Speaker 4: enough water in your home or anything. Provisions to go
Speaker 4: ahead and take care of it, because if you're not
Speaker 4: prepared for the first seventy two hours, it'll be very
Speaker 4: difficult to get prepared for.
Speaker 2: No question about it. And you know, had you said
Speaker 2: something like that about ten years ago, I'd say, well,
Speaker 2: maybe that's a little bit of an overreaction, not now,
Speaker 2: because who knows what in the heck is going to happen,
Speaker 2: And I think people be wise to be prepared. And
Speaker 2: obviously no real patriot wants that, but in this world,
Speaker 2: who knows. But hey, I appreciate the call. I appreciate
Speaker 2: you looking into the future too.
Speaker 4: The next year, Bobby, Well, God bless you your family
Speaker 4: and all your friends this new holiday season.
Speaker 2: So you too, you too, thank you. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: that Taiwan thing, I mean, that is just so close
Speaker 2: to blowing. But you know, I think President she good
Speaker 2: chance he'll sit on his hands until Trump is finished,
Speaker 2: and then, I mean hopefully we get JD. Vans, and
Speaker 2: I believe that he would continue the president's policy for
Speaker 2: strong support for Taiwan. I mean, that's the way it's
Speaker 2: been since nineteen forty eight, and we can't welsh on
Speaker 2: our promises. So oh, it's an interesting and dangerous world
Speaker 2: we're living in. Let me talk to Mike in Claremont County. Hey,
Speaker 2: good morning, Mike.
Speaker 10: Hey before I forget, happy New year, classmate, And did
Speaker 10: I hear you correctly on the Saturday Show that you're
Speaker 10: a new grandparent.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I am, I am. I got a little
Speaker 2: granddaughter and I am so happy. Her name is Estelle,
Speaker 2: but we're going to call her Stella and it's been
Speaker 2: a long time coming from me. And I know who
Speaker 2: this mic is. This is a mit not only my
Speaker 2: high school class mate, but grade school class make correct
Speaker 2: all the way back. Yes, sir, there you go. Brother
Speaker 2: spent thirty three years, I believe in the Navy, the
Speaker 2: overwhelming majority of that on a submarine. Am I right?
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, power the deep and we had our own
Speaker 10: ways to celebrate. I was out one time under underway
Speaker 10: and but once again, let's never forget our armed forces
Speaker 10: that are out there standing to watch during this difficult
Speaker 10: time and separation from their families.
Speaker 2: You are so right, you know. I had a caller
Speaker 2: the other day talk about the how China is really
Speaker 2: rebooting their navy and building warships. Is that something that
Speaker 2: you pay attention to, Mike, And do you have any
Speaker 2: take on it?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 10: I retired to No. Three, but even then, pretty much
Speaker 10: the Pacific is covered by our bases in Pearl Harbor
Speaker 10: and San Diego, but we saw the threat even in
Speaker 10: the late nineties early two thousands to where we now
Speaker 10: have five deployed submarines in even one of our ssgns.
Speaker 10: Those are the old missile carrion boats that are fully
Speaker 10: loaded with Tomahawks. They're now home based in Guam, so
Speaker 10: that cuts down that travel time. So that has always
Speaker 10: been on the radar, and as well as we've had
Speaker 10: bases in Yakuska, Japan, all all the way back into
Speaker 10: the seventies, so we are definitely monitoring the situation, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Well in Japan is re arming too, and in my
Speaker 2: opinion that's a good thing. I mean, they need to
Speaker 2: start holding up their end of the thing too, and
Speaker 2: apparently they're in a big rebuilding program.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, And one thing that's just tremendous. It was at
Speaker 10: the beginning of this year and actually got started in
Speaker 10: a last administration to where but unprecedented, to where our
Speaker 10: Australian Navy counterparts we are actually building the new Virginia
Speaker 10: class fat attack thumbornes and they will get the exact
Speaker 10: copy of what we have. So that shows that trust
Speaker 10: with that alliance and once again realizing Holen pull and
Speaker 10: that part of the Pacific Ocean is are they going.
Speaker 2: To name one of those things after you, Mike? I
Speaker 2: think they should.
Speaker 10: We'll call it the USS Panther or the USS outdr
Speaker 10: How about that?
Speaker 2: There you go, brother, Hey, listeny real quick, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 8: Real quick on Minnesota if I may.
Speaker 10: You know, I'm as outraged as you are, but not
Speaker 10: surprised because this is where all the pushback came from
Speaker 10: DOGE when they started banging up USA. I d it's
Speaker 10: not about the kids, it's about people that were losing
Speaker 10: their cash cow. And the one video that I just
Speaker 10: loved because obviously Minnesota gets a lot more snow than
Speaker 10: we do, so a little two or three in snowfall
Speaker 10: is not going to stop any operations up there. But
Speaker 10: that wonderful reporter that went to one of those learning
Speaker 10: centers or excuse me leering right, Not only was the
Speaker 10: the parking lot not plowed, there was not one car track,
Speaker 10: not one footprint, and he went back a couple of days.
Speaker 10: So you know, Inspector KLUSA could have figured that one out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So I think our good auditor, mister Faber, I don't
Speaker 10: think he'll be celebrating tonight. He better be cracking the
Speaker 10: books open because I think, once again, to quote a
Speaker 10: famous American being yourself, this is just a tip of
Speaker 10: the Iceberg and Columbus.
Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 5: Brother.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw or not or heard
Speaker 2: at the top of the show. My producer was able
Speaker 2: to find that thing in Columbus, so it's going to
Speaker 2: break up there. But really appreciate the call, Mike, and
Speaker 2: happy I hear to you.
Speaker 10: Happy New Year, sir.
Speaker 2: Okay, brother, thank you. Yeah. Thirty three years in the
Speaker 2: United States Navy and most of them on submarines. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what, that's a hell of a service record. Hey,
Speaker 2: let's do this. Let's take a short break and we'll
Speaker 2: come back and maybe just maybe even do a little
Speaker 2: bit of fluff until we have our guest, Kevin Burton
Speaker 2: at eleven o'clock. And boy, that's going to be interesting too.
Speaker 2: We're going to play an end of the year political
Speaker 2: game lightning Round. What's going to happen is I'm going
Speaker 2: to read a political question, JI ask Kevin a political question.
Speaker 2: He has to come up with a one word answer,
Speaker 2: and I think it'll be fun. Hey, we will be
Speaker 2: back Mike Allen in for Sloaney seven hundred WLW ten
Speaker 2: to fifty four News Radio seven hundred WLW, Mike Allen
Speaker 2: in four Scott Sloan on New Year's Eve be here
Speaker 2: tomorrow too, and tomorrow we will do a substantial amount
Speaker 2: of what was referred to as fluff, and it kind
Speaker 2: of is. But let's get a little preview of that now.
Speaker 2: CNN Believe It or Not has what looks to be
Speaker 2: a pretty straightforward and pretty unbiased Believe It or Not
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. In review fast Facts starting with January,
Speaker 2: the first appropriately enough sad story. Fourteen people are killed
Speaker 2: in dozens injured. Oh man, I remember this when a
Speaker 2: driver rams's pickup truck into a crowd during a New
Speaker 2: Year's Eve celebration on Bourbon Street in New Orleans. The
Speaker 2: FBI described the event as an act of terrorism. The
Speaker 2: driver who was killed in the shootout with police was
Speaker 2: identified as Shamsud didn Jabbar. Imagine that forty two year
Speaker 2: old Army veteran from Texas who just happened to have
Speaker 2: an ISIS flag in his truck. And I remember watching that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was really bad. And you know, I'm
Speaker 2: loath to criticize cops in any way, shape or form,
Speaker 2: But the New Orleans Police Department, I think, starting with
Speaker 2: the chief, had some real problems down there, not just that,
Speaker 2: but other things too. I guess the big one on
Speaker 2: that one was you know those things, those barriers that
Speaker 2: you have that supposedly we'll keep a car from going
Speaker 2: somewhere that the police don't want them to go. I
Speaker 2: guess either it didn't work or they didn't have it,
Speaker 2: but hopefully they got that situation taken care of. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you just a personal story with respect to New Orleans.
Speaker 2: This wasn't. This one on January first was not the
Speaker 2: big one. Marty Gras I took with buddy. My daughter
Speaker 2: went to school at spring Hill College, which is close
Speaker 2: to New Orleans. Anyway, my buddy and I took the
Speaker 2: train to New Orleans to see Marty Gras spend some
Speaker 2: time with my daughter. It's not something i'd ever do again.
Speaker 2: It was cool, I mean it really was just the
Speaker 2: pageantry and everything else. But Bourbon Street is absolutely crazy,
Speaker 2: I mean stupid, crazy, dangerous crazy, and from what I understand,
Speaker 2: it hasn't gotten any better. I have been to New
Speaker 2: Orleans a couple times after that, not during Marty Gras.
Speaker 2: It's a really cool place. But anyway, it's moved right
Speaker 2: along here in the fluff department. January seventh of this year, wildfire. Oh,
Speaker 2: this is horrible. Wildfire swept through Los Angeles. Dozens are
Speaker 2: killed in more than sixteen thousand structures, You're damaged. Over
Speaker 2: thirty thousand acres are burned in the Eton and Palisades fires.
Speaker 2: The Eaton and Palisades fires rank as the second and
Speaker 2: third most destructive wildfires in Southern California history. That was
Speaker 2: just awful, And if I'm not mistaken, I didn't really
Speaker 2: pay that much attention to it. I think there's a
Speaker 2: report out on that that just came out maybe this
Speaker 2: week that a lot of people don't seem to be
Speaker 2: happy with and don't seem to think that it was
Speaker 2: really comprehensive enough. Maybe I'll take a look at that
Speaker 2: and we can talk about that later. January seventh, same day,
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg announced that Meta will adjust its content review
Speaker 2: policies on Facebook and Instagram. Uh yeah, I remember this,
Speaker 2: getting rid of fact checkers and replacing them with user
Speaker 2: generated community notes, similar to Elon Musk's at Well, you know,
Speaker 2: the thing with fact checkers are and if you follow
Speaker 2: me this stuff nine times out of ten with alleged
Speaker 2: fact checkers. The Conservatives get the short end of the
Speaker 2: stick on that, so they're not really the majority, not
Speaker 2: really unbiased fact checkers. So that doesn't break my heart
Speaker 2: that they got rid of them. Ah, here's one. And
Speaker 2: you know, it's just so hard to believe that this
Speaker 2: is only one year ago. Okay. January tenth, former President
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is sentenced to unconditional discharge for his conviction
Speaker 2: last year on thirty four charges of business fraud related
Speaker 2: to a hush money payment two Stormy alleged hush money.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say that, I'm gonna put it in there,
Speaker 2: alleged hush money payment to Stormy Daniels. This means he
Speaker 2: will not be in prison, No, I don't think so,
Speaker 2: find or face probation. But his conviction still stands, and
Speaker 2: he will enter office as a convicted felon. And now
Speaker 2: you know what, I said something at the very beginning,
Speaker 2: it looked like it was straightforward. It looked like it
Speaker 2: was down the middle. But I take that back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that could be written a lot better and a lot
Speaker 2: more accurately. January twentieth, Before leaving office, President Joe Biden
Speaker 2: issues a slate of preemptive pardons. Yeah, quite a few
Speaker 2: for prominent critics of President elect Trump. Now see now
Speaker 2: they're making up for it by being fair. Later, he
Speaker 2: issues pardons for members of his family to wit the
Speaker 2: Biden crime family. Hey, we got to leave it here
Speaker 2: because we got to break for the news. But when
Speaker 2: we get back, we're gonna be talking to Kevin Burton.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have the end of the year political game show,
Speaker 2: the Lightning Round. I think it'll be fun. Mike Allen
Speaker 2: in for Slowey seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 2: Hey, we're back. Mike Allen in for Slowey seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Be in for him tomorrow as well. Wanted to tell
Speaker 2: you at we are talking Ohio State versus Miami, which
Speaker 2: you will be able to hear tonight on the big one,
Speaker 2: big big game, and I'm gonna be talking to talking
Speaker 2: about it with I'm gonna make it his surprise. But
Speaker 2: this dude knows his Ohio State football, so that'll be fun.
Speaker 2: We'll do that at eleven thirty. But in the meantime,
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be fun. We're gonna talk
Speaker 2: to independent political analyst. We talked to him quite a bit,
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton. But we're gonna do it kind of in
Speaker 2: a fun way. So Kevin, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: calling and participating in this today.
Speaker 11: Mike, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 11: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. This is kind of, I think
Speaker 2: a fun idea for you know, kind of an end
Speaker 2: of the year. It's gonna be a political lightning round.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna mention something to Kevin, a political event
Speaker 2: or something that happened, and he has to describe that
Speaker 2: with one word. Of course, we can expound on it later. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's start off with this, Kevin, pretty general, what is
Speaker 2: one word that you would use to describe politics this year?
Speaker 11: Dumpster fire?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, dumpster fire. Well, I'll tell you what it's
Speaker 2: It's hard to disagree with that, But tell me why
Speaker 2: you say that.
Speaker 11: I mean, I just think you look locally, I think
Speaker 11: you look nationally. We had stories both sides of the
Speaker 11: aisles of just what the heck are they doing? Can
Speaker 11: we think of any major legislation that was passed?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 11: No, And it's it's all for clicks. And all for attention.
Speaker 11: I just can't think of any milestones that were passed,
Speaker 11: you know, that are helping the American people. So my
Speaker 11: word would be dumpster fire.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know what, I'd have to agree with that,
Speaker 2: all right, moving right along, This is a good one too, boy,
Speaker 2: This could be a lot of people who had the
Speaker 2: worst week in politics this year. Your thoughts on that,
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton.
Speaker 11: So I'll do one local than one national, Okay, I
Speaker 11: think local. It has to be Victoria Parks for her
Speaker 11: comments of they deserved it after the fight. I think
Speaker 11: that was the worst week in politics, stand for everything.
Speaker 2: That you didn't like, yep.
Speaker 11: And then Nashally, I'm gonna go with Elon Musk. His
Speaker 11: fall has been pretty substantial. You know, he's not the
Speaker 11: Golden Boy anymore, his fallout with Trump, his you know,
Speaker 11: the stock prices of Tesla going down.
Speaker 5: So those would be my two answers.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I agree with both a little bit
Speaker 2: more with Victoria Parks. And you know, I don't know her,
Speaker 2: I had never met or don't know anything about her,
Speaker 2: but my goodness, what a horrible thing to say. And
Speaker 2: that whole thing is still going on Kevin Is. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you probably know. I guess they extended the time
Speaker 2: for Frost Brown the law firm to try to find
Speaker 2: something that she did wrong to give the city a
Speaker 2: Cincinnati a basis for firing her.
Speaker 11: As we know, Billibool hours are undefeated, especially between Christmas
Speaker 11: and Thanksgiving. So I mean, good for UFBT, good for
Speaker 11: you with those hours.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. And you're not even a lawyer, but
Speaker 2: you do get the drill man. That's pretty good. All right,
Speaker 2: all right, moving right along, which political story made you
Speaker 2: see what? Wait? No, I'm sorry, wait what. I'm waiting
Speaker 2: to hear what you say about this one.
Speaker 11: Uh, I'm gonna have to go with our mayor and
Speaker 11: the repo that well, you know, you know, there's a
Speaker 11: lot of things that as political consultants you can try
Speaker 11: to stop try to plan for. Getting a car repossessed
Speaker 11: is not one of them, you know, So that that
Speaker 11: would be my weight what Yeah, he took a beating
Speaker 11: on that one. My my national one would probably be
Speaker 11: Golf of Mexico. I still I'm just like, I wait,
Speaker 11: what but that is a less serious one.
Speaker 2: The Golf of America. Now, I don't know, I mean
Speaker 2: when they're making new maps and things. Since Trump did that,
Speaker 2: are people actually like putting in the golf of America
Speaker 2: or Yeah? I don't know. I mean I don't obviously
Speaker 2: he does any other power to change what people think.
Speaker 2: But I kind of scratched my head on that. I
Speaker 2: think it was a play to americanized things.
Speaker 11: I guess, yeah, yeah, but it's it's silly. I don't
Speaker 11: think it's a real issue. Call it what you want.
Speaker 8: It, I get it.
Speaker 2: What issue are people pretending to care about? That's a
Speaker 2: good one. I want to know what you think.
Speaker 11: Civility now that's good Ken.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think people really don't care
Speaker 2: about that? Because man, I sure hear a lot of
Speaker 2: people saying, and I'm one of them, it would be
Speaker 2: nice if we could just have a little bit of bipartisanship,
Speaker 2: a little bit of civility. But now you're you're pretty grizzled,
Speaker 2: I guess, and jaded is a political consultant, But you
Speaker 2: really you really don't think people care about that?
Speaker 11: I mean, I just go back to Okay, whenever we
Speaker 11: have a controversy or anything, the same people who want
Speaker 11: praise for bringing the community together will pare it apart,
Speaker 11: people keep voting Congress the exact same, They keep voting
Speaker 11: the exact same. Right, if people wanted real change, they
Speaker 11: would actually show with their ballot box. So until that happens,
Speaker 11: that would be my word. And you know, me and
Speaker 11: Mike we didn't plan this where this is just all
Speaker 11: rapid fire.
Speaker 2: So no, and I get it too. And you make
Speaker 2: a good point. If people really felt that way, perhaps
Speaker 2: there'd be more crossover voting, which is I understand it.
Speaker 2: There is very little, if any of that, So I
Speaker 2: get it. I get it. Okay, moving right along here.
Speaker 2: What issue do people actually care about? But politicians ignore.
Speaker 11: Campaign finance? Campaign limits?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 11: You look, people want constitutional limits on Congress people, but
Speaker 11: guess who makes the laws they do? So that's what
Speaker 11: why we won't ever see it. You know, I think
Speaker 11: almost universally we all agree that you shouldn't be in
Speaker 11: there for sixty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't.
Speaker 11: Do anything at that well, because they're the one who
Speaker 11: make the walls. The only time Democrats and Republicans work
Speaker 11: together is when it's the benefit themselves or insider trading. Yeah,
Speaker 11: insider trading. Your job is to do it for the
Speaker 11: is to be there for the public not to get wealthy.
Speaker 2: No, I get that, Thank you very much, Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 2: All right, moving along here, one local project, boy, I
Speaker 2: know what mine is on this one one local project
Speaker 2: you hear about constantly, but still don't totally understand your pick.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the banks.
Speaker 11: What are we doing? Yeah, there's still there's still you know,
Speaker 11: beams coming out of it. I mean, objectively, the Banks
Speaker 11: has not been what we thought it was going to be.
Speaker 11: You know, we always hear about it. It's the gateway
Speaker 11: to you know, with the city for a lot of
Speaker 11: entry ways, and you know, it's our entertainment section, and
Speaker 11: it just hasn't done what it was supposed to do.
Speaker 11: How many times have we seen bars close, their restaurants close,
Speaker 11: their incidents happen at Stale Park. I just think objectively,
Speaker 11: the Banks has been a failure.
Speaker 2: Well you know what I mean, It's one of those
Speaker 2: deals where if you get too much crime down there,
Speaker 2: which I think we probably have now, like you said,
Speaker 2: people are just going to stop coming. And boy, what
Speaker 2: a shame that would be because so much money was
Speaker 2: dumped in there. And really I've been down there a
Speaker 2: couple times this summer for different things. It's I mean,
Speaker 2: it really is kind of a show place. But I
Speaker 2: guess we'll see. Okay, my answer to this one. And
Speaker 2: I'm just volunteering this. I know this is your game.
Speaker 2: One local project you hear about constantly but still don't
Speaker 2: totally understand. Well, actually it would be two. The first one,
Speaker 2: on a micro level would be the Western Hills Viaduct.
Speaker 2: You know, we've been being a good West Sider. You
Speaker 2: knew i'd do that. We've been hearing about that damn
Speaker 2: thing supposedly getting fixed for years and years and years.
Speaker 2: I had Bill Sites on when Bill was still in
Speaker 2: the High Legislature. Bill was the guy that kind of
Speaker 2: han showed that thing. And this is like two years ago.
Speaker 2: And Bill said, and I'm not criticizing him at all,
Speaker 2: but for Bill Sites it wouldn't have gotten done. But
Speaker 2: I got the impression that it was gonna be like
Speaker 2: right now. Well, we had an announcement not too long
Speaker 2: ago that well, now, okay, you know, because of inflation,
Speaker 2: instead of three lanes each way, we're knocking it down
Speaker 2: to two. Oh and by the way, I think it's
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine. Now they're looking at SO and the
Speaker 2: other one on the on the macro level would have
Speaker 2: to be in you're a Kentucky guy, I think you can.
Speaker 2: You can relate to this the Brent Spence Bridge replacing
Speaker 2: that thing. Oh, you know it's gonna be. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be dead and in my grave for a long long
Speaker 2: time when that thing is finally finished. If it is,
Speaker 2: you know, Kentucky and Ohio finally got together on the
Speaker 2: damn thing. And I don't know, it just doesn't seem
Speaker 2: like any grounds getting moved or any progress is being made.
Speaker 2: Do you have any perspective on that? Being Northern Kentuckian.
Speaker 11: Well, someone went to house in Heathern, Kentucky. I'm willing
Speaker 11: to put my house up when they start the construction,
Speaker 11: really because it's going to be it's going to be
Speaker 11: a nightmare. I know that they have started to close out.
Speaker 11: If you go into like long Worth Haul, they show
Speaker 11: where they're gonna show do the demolition and things like that.
Speaker 11: You know, if you've been to Lolsbo or Columbus at all,
Speaker 11: you know what it's like to drive through traffic for
Speaker 11: the last ten years. And unfortunately that's going to be
Speaker 11: Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky for the next ten years.
Speaker 2: It's a I tell this story all the time. It's relevant.
Speaker 2: My father was a civil engineer and he was on
Speaker 2: some board. It wasn't OKAYI but this is like in
Speaker 2: the mid fifties, I guess. And he tells the story
Speaker 2: that when they were talking about the Brent Spence Bridge
Speaker 2: and building it, he and all of the professionals, the engineers, said,
Speaker 2: no way, no way, no way. Three lanes is not
Speaker 2: going to be big enough. You can't do it. It's
Speaker 2: going to be obsolete the day it opens. And I
Speaker 2: think he and the other experts were kind of their
Speaker 2: point of view certainly was the appropriate one. But I
Speaker 2: guess we shall see. But I sure ain't holding my
Speaker 2: breath on that one at all. Okay, moving right along
Speaker 2: what local political debate feels way bigger online? Ah, this
Speaker 2: is good, way bigger online than in real life. Boy,
Speaker 2: that could be anything.
Speaker 11: It was the fight the Democrats swept. They got asked,
Speaker 11: I've got eighty percent.
Speaker 2: Of the vote.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was all the Charter, on the media and everything,
Speaker 11: but the voters didn't care. So we're doing like electoral
Speaker 11: has to be that issue.
Speaker 2: No question, no question, you know. And I was one
Speaker 2: I mean, there was some pretty uh I think, pretty
Speaker 2: good Republican candidates for city council. Of course, a Christopher
Speaker 2: Smitheman comes to mind, Liz Keating and others too, Steve Gooden,
Speaker 2: Dondree House. But boy, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: what a whooping. And I've made this bold prediction. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want it to be true, but
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be. We're not going to
Speaker 2: see a Republican elected mayor or council in the rest
Speaker 2: of my lifetime. I mean, what a butt whipping that was.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, Kevin, you always shoot straight. Did
Speaker 2: you think it was going to be that bad for
Speaker 2: the Republicans?
Speaker 11: I thought I thought the Democrats were going to win
Speaker 11: at least seven, if not eight, of the these. I
Speaker 11: thought Liz and Snetherman were really the best chance. But ironically,
Speaker 11: of having a dree House and all these legacy names,
Speaker 11: they actually split the vote between themselves and the Democratic
Speaker 11: ticket just I mean, you saw it. They voted ninety
Speaker 11: eight percent together. And that's the machine. And that's a
Speaker 11: compliment to folks like Eddie Davenport, Alex Lindsner, the chair
Speaker 11: who's built just the machine over there, no.
Speaker 2: Question about it. I mean, obviously wasn't what I wanted
Speaker 2: to see, but it was impressive and well, even going
Speaker 2: back to my term as chairman of the Republican Party
Speaker 2: in the mid nineties, Democrats always had their act together.
Speaker 2: The slate card as strong as the Republicans used to
Speaker 2: be and still are, I think, county wide. But it
Speaker 2: is an impressive operation to watch. I have to admit
Speaker 2: that one thing though, this is kind of off the point.
Speaker 2: You know, when I was chairman of the Republican Party,
Speaker 2: Tim Burke was chairman of the Democrat Party and that right, well,
Speaker 2: thank you. I agree with that greatest of all time.
Speaker 10: That man.
Speaker 2: Love him tail off, and right when he leaves, that's
Speaker 2: when things, you know, kind of start to turn around.
Speaker 2: I hope people in the Democratic Party are giving him
Speaker 2: his props because he certainly deserves him. And as an adversary,
Speaker 2: he was absolutely great to work with. You know a
Speaker 2: lot of times on issues, you know, judicial races and
Speaker 2: things like that, Tim and I go out and get
Speaker 2: a cup of coffee or lunch or something and just
Speaker 2: discuss it and kind of come to an agreement on things.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure that doesn't happen anymore. But anyway, I
Speaker 2: just wanted to throw that out last question. Will next
Speaker 2: year be crazier?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Or absolutely yes?
Speaker 11: Absolutely yes. It's the midterm years. The whole Tim Waltz
Speaker 11: scandal is just getting It's like an onion right now.
Speaker 11: It's going to dive deeper and deeper in next year
Speaker 11: will be crazy. It's midterms, so every single issue is
Speaker 11: going to be amplified. City stuff will probably be less
Speaker 11: quiet because there's not an election national and state. You
Speaker 11: got governors races. It's gonna fill a lot of radio slots,
Speaker 11: so advertisers better pay up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the station loves that time of year.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: You know what, this was really fun. I think it
Speaker 2: was uh yeah, I think it was enlightening and entertaining too.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna let my listeners know that at ten
Speaker 2: o'clock tomorrow morning, we're gonna do something similar the end
Speaker 2: of the year political awards, Winner of the Year, Loser
Speaker 2: of the Year, Worst Week award, and you know what,
Speaker 2: I'll be ready for that one, Kevin. I'll have some
Speaker 2: picks on that too, But really appreciate you doing this
Speaker 2: and hope we can make it an annual thing.
Speaker 5: I hope so too.
Speaker 11: I hope the listeners enjoyed it and everyone have a safe,
Speaker 11: happy New Year's.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you too, all right, Kevin Burton, Boy, that
Speaker 2: was fun, you know, and the guy's tuned in, he
Speaker 2: really is, and I love you know what. It's just
Speaker 2: like a regular interview or something like this, because you
Speaker 2: do get that other perspective, and I think it's important
Speaker 2: to do that. Hey, we got to take a break,
Speaker 2: but we'll be back, Dave, do I have any time
Speaker 2: coming back? Or we'll go right to news. Okay, We're
Speaker 2: gonna go right to news, and then when we get back,
Speaker 2: we're talking Ohio State Miami. And we'll do that one
Speaker 2: where you turn Mike Allen in for Slowey seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: It is eleven thirty seven News Radio, seven hundred WLW,
Speaker 2: Mike Allen in for Sloany on New Year's Eve. Well,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I think I know where a
Speaker 2: lot of people on one of them is going to
Speaker 2: be about seven thirty tonight, and that is watching the
Speaker 2: game the Cotton Bowl Ohio State Buckeyes twelve and one,
Speaker 2: that heartbreaking loss to Indiana versus the Miami Hurricanes. They
Speaker 2: are eleven and two. Buck guys are rated number two
Speaker 2: in the country and the Hurricanes are number ten. This
Speaker 2: is going to be a great game here to talk
Speaker 2: about it is a guy that I think knows more
Speaker 2: about Ohio State football, probably just about anybody else in
Speaker 2: this city. He just happens to be my son. Mike
Speaker 2: Allen Junior, heard here Sunday Nights on the Big One. Mike,
Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 5: Hey, thanks a lot. Dan, happy to be talking to you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let me you know I got you know,
Speaker 2: I gotta tell the story. Growing up, Mike and I
Speaker 2: kind of split our allegiance between Ohio State and Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: and we got the ancient sweatshirts to prove it. Mike
Speaker 2: kind of segued pretty strongly some years back to Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Before we begin the questioning here, Mike, tell us all
Speaker 2: why you did that.
Speaker 8: I think it was when I was able to buy
Speaker 8: my own.
Speaker 5: Clothing that I stopped buying or cheering for. I don't
Speaker 5: remember cheering for a Notre Dame.
Speaker 8: I do remember you buying me the stuff in encouraging
Speaker 8: me to wear, and I'll put it that way.
Speaker 2: Well, just being a West Side Catholic boy, I guess
Speaker 2: I figured it. Oh yeah, but you know what, I
Speaker 2: love Ohio State too. My father, your grandfather, graduated through there,
Speaker 2: so we're behind him now. But let me ask you,
Speaker 2: and I know, I know how strongly you follow these guys.
Speaker 2: What do you think I guess stylistically, what are you
Speaker 2: looking at tonight? How do you think it's going to
Speaker 2: be high scoring? Low scoring? What do you think?
Speaker 5: So Ohio State wants structure.
Speaker 8: This is about, you know, chaos versus control, so to speak.
Speaker 8: And Ohio State wants controlled. They want to win the
Speaker 8: line of scrimmage, they want to control the tempo, they
Speaker 8: want to play clean. I hate to say this almost boring.
Speaker 5: What do you hate? Esque football?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 8: And make Miami earn out absolutely everything.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 8: Miami is gonna want disruption. They're gonna be really emotional.
Speaker 8: They're gonna be hoping for big plays, sudden changes, momentum swings.
Speaker 8: It boils down to it because Ohio State just has
Speaker 8: a more talented team. If they keep this calm and
Speaker 8: methodical and like I said, boring, I think this turns
Speaker 8: into the type of game they want now and if
Speaker 8: Miami comes out and they start playing fast and loose
Speaker 8: and emotional with turnovers. That's where you know, an even
Speaker 8: more talented football team can feel really uncomfortable really quickly.
Speaker 8: And that's something Miami is really good at is getting
Speaker 8: people off schedule with their defensive line. I mean, they're
Speaker 8: they're their front guys are unbelievable. But I think whoever
Speaker 8: dictates the style early is going to be is going
Speaker 8: to be who dictates the whole night.
Speaker 2: Really and you know, yeah, ask you this question. You
Speaker 2: think the game is more about the buck guys offense,
Speaker 2: you know, making plays or their defense setting the tone.
Speaker 2: But before he answered that, I mean they're pretty even.
Speaker 2: It looks like in the quarterback department for yeah, buck eyes, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Julian saying, listen to this man, he's got three and
Speaker 2: twenty three yards. Then Carson Beck OSU He's at three
Speaker 2: thousand seventy five. So they're about even. I guess, yeah.
Speaker 8: And the thing that that Julian saying doesn't do that
Speaker 8: Carson Beck tends to do is is Beck will trust.
Speaker 8: I mean, he's got a cannon. He'll make you pay
Speaker 8: if you're late on anything. But he gets a little
Speaker 8: he gambles. So Ohio State, especially with a guy like
Speaker 8: Caleb Downs playing safety.
Speaker 5: He's he's the guy.
Speaker 8: He's the glue that holds them all together back there,
Speaker 8: and he's what allows Ohio State to blitz their corners
Speaker 8: a lot.
Speaker 5: Caleb Downs is going to try.
Speaker 8: To make is going to try to force Carson Beck
Speaker 8: into mistakes. Marvel Reeves as well, the linebacker for Ohio State,
Speaker 8: he's the guy that that gives you control. This is
Speaker 8: going to be about Ohio State's defense setting the tone.
Speaker 8: And those two guys as well, Caleb Downs and linebacker r. L. Reech,
Speaker 8: they those are two folks that they that people want
Speaker 8: to see in Cincinnati next year. Those are two guys
Speaker 8: that are going to go in the first round. And
Speaker 8: I know a lot of Bengals fans, especially Caleb Downs,
Speaker 8: they really like that. And I think the other thing
Speaker 8: too that storyline is Brian Hartline, the Buckey's offensive coordinator,
Speaker 8: is now in Florida. He's gone, and that was I
Speaker 8: think a lot of the issue with with Ohio State
Speaker 8: not putting a lot of points up against Indiana was
Speaker 8: that now Ryan Day is going to go back to
Speaker 8: calling the plays tonight, and there's been mixed results with that.
Speaker 8: But what I will say is when when he's got
Speaker 8: extra time to prepare. I mean, they haven't played a
Speaker 8: football game in a month.
Speaker 5: It feels like.
Speaker 8: He usually does pretty well. So but if I had
Speaker 8: to say this, I mean, Ohio State's defense is the
Speaker 8: most important unit on the field tonight. I mean, they're
Speaker 8: gonna be the ones that determine if Carson Beck is
Speaker 8: going to chuck it to that freshman receiver all day
Speaker 8: or if this is going to be a slow grind
Speaker 8: for for Miami.
Speaker 2: You know, and that makes for a good game too.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, I mean, when you look
Speaker 2: at Miami, you know, Ohio States favored, I think by
Speaker 2: a fair amount. I don't get the whole betting deal
Speaker 2: lot anyway, they are favored. But when you look at Miami,
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think their realistic path to pulling.
Speaker 5: This off is momentum? I mean that's that's the one
Speaker 5: thing they can.
Speaker 8: Do is get on Ohio State early and try to
Speaker 8: force you know, an early turnover to keep maybe take
Speaker 8: Ohio State's crowd out of it, but keep Ohio State
Speaker 8: off schedule.
Speaker 5: You know they're gonna.
Speaker 8: Want explosive big plays, short fields, emotional swings and again
Speaker 8: getting getting on Ohio State quickly. And that's going to
Speaker 8: start with Carson Beck being comfortable. They got a heck
Speaker 8: of a running back to Mark Fletcher. He'll keep them
Speaker 8: on schedule. And then that, like I said, the freshman
Speaker 8: on the outside malachay TONI and and force one turnover.
Speaker 5: That's the man. As if if.
Speaker 8: Miami can get Julian Saying to make a mistake, maybe
Speaker 8: get lucky on a fumble, maybe maybe pull something off
Speaker 8: on special teams, those momentum swings again, they'll make the
Speaker 8: more talented team uncomfortable. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 8: if they can get on them early and maybe you know,
Speaker 8: if Ohio State gets a long drive at the beginning,
Speaker 8: force hold them to a field goal. You know, I
Speaker 8: think that would be the way they do it. But
Speaker 8: it's gonna have to be you know, they're gonna have
Speaker 8: to get a turnover here and there.
Speaker 5: They're gonna have to.
Speaker 8: Hit big plays because if Ohio State is allowed to
Speaker 8: just play old school Ohio State football against Miami, I
Speaker 8: don't think Miami's really got a shot. So I will
Speaker 8: say this though Miami defensive line is unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 8: there they've got a cast of characters that are just disruptive.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 8: If Ohio State can find a way to keep their
Speaker 8: defensive line and check and run the ball, I think
Speaker 8: I think they'll be in good hands. And if if
Speaker 8: Miami can force a shootout, you know, Ohio State might
Speaker 8: have to worry a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. Now if you're an
Speaker 2: Ohio State fan, which you obviously are, and you kind
Speaker 2: of just covered this, but what worries you most about
Speaker 2: Miami being an Ohio State fan, especially if you like
Speaker 2: boil it down to individual players and matchups and things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And like I said, Carson Beck, I mean I
Speaker 8: think this might be his third or fourth team he's
Speaker 8: played with, so he's seen it all in multiple conferences.
Speaker 8: What worries me is if Miami, you know, when plays
Speaker 8: break down, he's so good that if he gets that
Speaker 8: extra second or has to roll out a little bit,
Speaker 8: he's gonna punish you if you're just a little late.
Speaker 8: And again, that running back Fletcher, you know he can
Speaker 8: keep them and you know, second and manageable third and
Speaker 8: rational downs all night, not you know, keep my Another
Speaker 8: thing for Miami too is keeping it in second and
Speaker 8: third and normal not not you know, losses on first
Speaker 8: down and just trying to find a way to stay
Speaker 8: on track.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Carson Beck worries me.
Speaker 8: And again Ruben Bain Junior is the guy for Miami
Speaker 8: that just terrifies you. He is disruptive up up front.
Speaker 8: He's going to force Ohio States offensive line to move quickly,
Speaker 8: you know. And and if he starts getting after Julian saying.
Speaker 5: And their D line starts getting after.
Speaker 8: Ohio States offensive line, this game is gonna feel a
Speaker 8: lot tighter.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: Miami is is dangerous when it turns to you know,
Speaker 8: they they have a way of making really solid, fundamentally
Speaker 8: sound football teams uncomfortable and you know, get out of wax,
Speaker 8: so to speak.
Speaker 2: So I'll be.
Speaker 5: Honest with you.
Speaker 8: I think the two you know, higher state pion two
Speaker 8: in Miami being ten, that's that's a little bit deceiving here.
Speaker 5: I mean that they're they're a good matchup against the Buckeyes.
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a heck of a game.
Speaker 2: It sure looks like it. And as you point out,
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation is almost even one more question, well
Speaker 2: almost one more, and you've kind of addressed this already.
Speaker 2: When it's all said and done, what do you think,
Speaker 2: bottom line, what do you think is going to decide
Speaker 2: this game?
Speaker 5: Turnovers and tempo.
Speaker 8: Man if if Ohio State can play clean football, you know,
Speaker 8: control the run game, and that's that's someone else that
Speaker 8: that we got to mention Bo Jackson, I mean Ohio State.
Speaker 8: It feels like every single year just has a horse,
Speaker 8: I mean a guy that you can give the ball
Speaker 8: to over and over again, especially late in games, that'll
Speaker 8: just churn the clock out and for all to talk about,
Speaker 8: you know, Ohio State, you know in the air raid offense,
Speaker 8: so to speak, chucking the ball and how it's nothing
Speaker 8: like Jim Dressel and what he hayes if if people
Speaker 8: remember that first couple of drives when things kind of
Speaker 8: got off the rails against Michigan, Ohio State just started saying,
Speaker 8: you know what, We're gonna line up and we're just
Speaker 8: gonna run it down your throat. We're bigger, we're stronger,
Speaker 8: we're meaner. And I think if Ohio State can do that,
Speaker 8: especially early, settle the nerves a little bit and just
Speaker 8: say hey we are the number two team and aar
Speaker 8: the number ten team We're just bigger, meaner, stronger, and
Speaker 8: faster than them.
Speaker 5: I think they'll be okay.
Speaker 8: But man, if Miami gets an early turnover, you know,
Speaker 8: they get a big play early to get get them
Speaker 8: emotionally hyped up and take take Ohio State's crowd and
Speaker 8: possibly the players out of it. Anything can happen, man,
Speaker 8: I mean, that's the beauty of college is I mean
Speaker 8: any I hate to say it, rub it in my
Speaker 8: buddy's face, my Michigan fan buddies, but even an appolass
Speaker 8: and State can go into.
Speaker 5: The big House and be Michigan.
Speaker 8: I mean literally, anything can happen. So that's the beauty
Speaker 8: of it. I'll be honest these games, I don't really
Speaker 8: enjoy watching them. I'm just it on pre dere life.
Speaker 8: But hopefully it gets boring for the Buckeye fans at
Speaker 8: the end.
Speaker 2: We shall see a two part or an easy one
Speaker 2: if you care to venture. A final score number one
Speaker 2: and number two. And I think I know the answer
Speaker 2: to this. Where are you going to be watching the game?
Speaker 5: Man, I'll be sitting in my living room with my infiant.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought. That's what I thought.
Speaker 8: Yeah, tanged knipers, Well, what I will say, man, is
Speaker 8: I think, I honestly think it's going to be kind
Speaker 8: of boring.
Speaker 5: I think twenty one seventeen Ohio State.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 8: I think I think Ohio State runs the ball.
Speaker 5: I think I think Miami hangs on.
Speaker 8: But I don't think it'll be as close as that
Speaker 8: two thousand and one game.
Speaker 5: Man, that was something else.
Speaker 2: That really was I remember that. Hey, thanks so much
Speaker 2: for doing this, and uh, I'll like that. Reconnoiter with
Speaker 2: you tomorrow and we'll talk about it.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, take it easy, man, Okay.
Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, bye bye bye bye. All Right,
Speaker 2: Mike Allen, ju're giving us his take on the Ohio
Speaker 2: State Miami game tonight. And I told you, man, he
Speaker 2: knows Ohio State football cold. So we shall see what happens. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a real short break and then
Speaker 2: we'll come back and I'll give you kind of a
Speaker 2: preview of what we're going to do tomorrow on the show.
Speaker 2: Mike Allen in for Sloaney seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back,
Speaker 2: Mike Allen in for Slow seven hundred WLW. Well that
Speaker 2: was really cool. That's the first time I've ever interviewed
Speaker 2: my son on the air, and I'll tell you what,
Speaker 2: for a dad, that's a big deal. And he did
Speaker 2: mention that he's going to be watching the game from
Speaker 2: home tonight because brand new father just a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago. I'm a brand new grandfather, little girl, And
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, there ain't nothing like it, you know.
Speaker 2: I kind of have a theory with respect to Christmas.
Speaker 2: Christmas is fun when you are a kid, it's fun
Speaker 2: when you have kids, and then I think it's going
Speaker 2: to be fun again with grandkids. So looking forward to that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, if your kids are grown up and they're
Speaker 2: out of the house and it's Christmas, it's kind of like, man,
Speaker 2: when is this going to be over? You know? But
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be different now and I'm
Speaker 2: obviously enjoying it now and looking forward to it. Got
Speaker 2: a great show for you tomorrow. We are going to
Speaker 2: be doing, as one of the callers stated today, we
Speaker 2: are going to be doing a lot of fluff stuff,
Speaker 2: which is appropriate for the end of the year. You
Speaker 2: know who did this in twenty twenty five? Who did that?
Speaker 2: So looking forward to that. Also, we got some good
Speaker 2: guests lined up too. Attorney James Bogan, James. He keeps
Speaker 2: up on stuff with respect to you know, boys and girls'
Speaker 2: sports and other things like that. We'll talk to James
Speaker 2: about those issues, what happened with that kind of stuff
Speaker 2: in the previous year. And also Kevin Burton. Kevin's coming
Speaker 2: back again. We are going to do another political game
Speaker 2: Top Political Stories of the Year, So I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to that and back and clean up at eleven thirty tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Man by the name of Judd Dunning, I've had him
Speaker 2: on before, really really a great guest, and he's going
Speaker 2: to be speaking on what I feel is a very
Speaker 2: very important topic and probably appropriate to close out the
Speaker 2: year with it standing with Israel moral clarity in an
Speaker 2: age of manufactured confusion. And boy, i'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: He hits that right on the head. A big story,
Speaker 2: uh this year obviously with Israel and the raids and
Speaker 2: how they kind of put the arm on Hamas. Finally, yeah,
Speaker 2: i'll tell you. I'm reading a book now, the first
Speaker 2: book out by and I forget his name. I just
Speaker 2: started the book. One of the hostages that was taken
Speaker 2: hostage over there. Thankfully he was released in good health
Speaker 2: now and it's just it's unbelievable. What happened to those people,
Speaker 2: what Hamas did to those people. And for these people
Speaker 2: that want to talk about you know, uh, let's march
Speaker 2: on campus with the Palestinian flag. They it is. It's
Speaker 2: not a big book, it's kind of thin. They ought
Speaker 2: to take some time and read that, because I think
Speaker 2: would bring some reality to the debate there. But we
Speaker 2: shall see. But I'm looking forward to talking to him
Speaker 2: about that. So we'll have plenty to do. Getting the
Speaker 2: Year in review will do that, you know what. I
Speaker 2: think I will continue on with CNN because they think
Speaker 2: they did it pretty fairly. And just looking at it now,
Speaker 2: a couple things here January twenty third, and so much
Speaker 2: of this is about the Democrats. Law fair on President Trump.
Speaker 2: They're the ones that started it, they're the ones that
Speaker 2: perfected it, and they're getting it back, you know. And
Speaker 2: I said at the time, it's a shame it has
Speaker 2: to happen. It really does. It's inappropriate, but you know what,
Speaker 2: the political world is dog eat dog, and if somebody,
Speaker 2: if your opponent, does it, you're gonna do it. So
Speaker 2: Democrats should stop crying about it and thank themselves for
Speaker 2: the phenomena of this kind of thing the warfare we
Speaker 2: have now with the legal system and judges and everything else.
Speaker 2: But all right. January twenty third, a federal judge says
Speaker 2: that President Trump's executive order ending birthright constitutions birthright citizenship
Speaker 2: is blatantly unconstitutional, and that judge issued a tro temporary
Speaker 2: restraining order to block it. On July tenth, US District
Speaker 2: Judge Joseph Leplant certainly probably a either Obama or Biden appointee,
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't say that, I don't know for sure, he
Speaker 2: agrees to issue a new nationwide block against the executive order.
Speaker 2: Everything Trump tries to do with respect to immigration, especially
Speaker 2: everything else has to end up in federal court. You know,
Speaker 2: it never used to be like that. It really didn't.
Speaker 2: But oh boy, here's a sorry story. I remember this too.
Speaker 2: January twenty ninth, sixty seven people are dead after an
Speaker 2: American the Airline's regional jet on approach to Reagan National Airport,
Speaker 2: New DC, collides with a US Army black Hawk helicopter
Speaker 2: in mid air, sending both aircraft into the Potomac River below.
Speaker 2: Sixty four people on board on the plane and three
Speaker 2: soldiers on the Army helicopter now, I don't know if
Speaker 2: the NTSB, National Transportation Safety Board, or any other organization
Speaker 2: has come to a conclusion as to fault there, But
Speaker 2: I think one thing that the experts can agree on
Speaker 2: is that's a busy, busy airport, and you got military
Speaker 2: craft like helicopters flying and out of it too. So
Speaker 2: you know, it's a situation where hopefully they get that thing,
Speaker 2: they get that thing fixed. One last thing here, February third,
Speaker 2: Elon Musk reveals President Trump as signed off on shutting downs.
Speaker 2: One of the best things he did shut and one
Speaker 2: of the first things shutting down the USA Agency for
Speaker 2: International Development. That's it. I'll see you tomorrow. Mike Allen
Speaker 2: in for Sloaney seven hundred WLW