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Speaker 2: Beautiful day today.

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Speaker 3: I think cooler the tomorrow and then maybe snow Thursday

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Speaker 2: I guess it is what it is this time of year.

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Speaker 2: Slight chances no Friday too. Is that true?

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Speaker 4: According to the National Weather how much of it it's

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Speaker 4: It might get like the rain on Friday as well,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very, very true, Davy. So many places we

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Speaker 4: Let's begin on the college level with what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And I believe Washington d C has heard right here

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Speaker 5: Seventy two seventy two by two sarr to keep the

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Speaker 5: into camp Boozer, Poo boozer, back to sar now ahead.

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Speaker 6: A steal caravan her mullets full free.

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Speaker 7: He got it.

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Speaker 2: He hit.

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Speaker 6: He hit the long green putter from the logo with three.

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Speaker 6: Lead with three tenths of a second left to go

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: It would turn into point four seconds away. But it

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Speaker 4: didn't matter because Duke couldn't do anything in Yukon advances

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Speaker 4: History in the tournament, Going back to your guy, Christian

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Speaker 4: Laytner knocked Yukon out in the Elite eight. They do

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Speaker 4: two thousand and four. Yeah, these two teams last thirty

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Speaker 3: It certainly is one of the more memorable finishes right

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Speaker 3: Usually you associate one versus two is what's going to

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Speaker 3: Well, oddly enough, the Wolves have played themselves into a

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Speaker 3: That's true, and they got They still do have Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 3: You can hear tonight's game right here on the fan.

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Speaker 4: Huge collision right there? You see that No Wallner who

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Speaker 2: He did it? Caught the ball.

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Speaker 3: We don't know how softel basketball players are. Stewt hockey

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Speaker 2: Even miss the next shift. No, you wouldn't miss anything.

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Speaker 4: And he'd even if you know what he do, he'd

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Speaker 3: It says final gig it some more in the dugout.

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Speaker 3: to douke yukon one more item on that. Lots of

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Speaker 3: Alec Lewis from the owners meetings in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Very latest on. Have you heard the Kirk Cousins update.

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Speaker 2: I have, I have, I.

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Speaker 3: Always, I'm always worried when one of the best coaches

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that as well.

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Speaker 2: Have guards.

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Speaker 3: He played the Duke radio broadcast immediately they went to

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'll say I'll defend the guy

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Speaker 4: But we had a good laugh of all the staff

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Speaker 4: Yes, I understand, Yeah, anytime you leave the court really

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Speaker 2: One of the elements of the story.

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Speaker 4: We were talking about the ongoing hatred of Duke and

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Speaker 3: He believes part of the Duke hatred that he believes

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Speaker 5: But that.

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Speaker 4: He jumped in the air. I think before. First of all,

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Speaker 3: Not I mean, that was that steal, takeaway, whatever you

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Speaker 4: because is that how high?

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Speaker 4: Well. What's interesting is there's a video that surface during

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 4: That's why coaches go crazy, because you know they practiced it.

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Speaker 4: They ran the first couple parts of it perfectly, right

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Speaker 4: Right there, you got two guys streaking down the court

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Speaker 4: And that's the bigger thing that I think is a

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Speaker 4: Houston Cougar's in the semi finals, and you could just

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Speaker 2: But he's also as is this jobs not in jeopardy?

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Speaker 4: But people are wondering, they're going man, two years in

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Speaker 4: I know we got a break, but he said and

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Speaker 4: think it's a fair one, but it's more of a

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Speaker 2: And I think.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday that's a fact, just a strange question, and they're

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Speaker 4: not sure if Shier has proven that he can do

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Speaker 4: Some of that's the youth of the players. Some of

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Speaker 4: you know, big big plays to get the threes, to

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Speaker 3: You can get lost in the weeds of Hurley's deportment

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Speaker 3: and I'm not here to defend a lot of it

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Speaker 3: I mean he is. He may be as good as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's such a good coach, but that's also why

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Speaker 2: It's it's Bob Night two point zero.

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Speaker 3: It's a different kind of behave reckless behavior, but that's

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Speaker 3: the same thing. You win to that level, they're going

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Speaker 3: to give you extra rope for sure. Also, before we go, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we lose to the Royals today three to one. I

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Speaker 3: We lost the rubber game yesterday to Baltimore. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 4: Now we lose to the to the Royals and a

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Speaker 3: Last item from Ed and Saint Paul. Have you seen

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Speaker 3: or watched the NBA pre halftime a postgame show on

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Speaker 3: CBS or Turner heard about the heat and controversial comments

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Speaker 3: made by former Viking Nate Burlison. I personally found them

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Speaker 3: in appropriate for that medium, in a major downfall from

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Speaker 3: the late Greg Gumbel Aarnie Johnson. That's Ed again in

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Speaker 3: Saint Paul. I'm unaware of what was he talking about?

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Speaker 3: The size matters comment?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Is that the one? That's the only one I could

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Speaker 2: think of?

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Speaker 4: First of all, the guy who made that was the

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Speaker 4: former who's the former Auburn coach, Bruce Pearl.

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Speaker 3: He's the guy who said it first. If that's the one,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know what maybe what he did with it,

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Speaker 3: what Burlison did with it, I don't know. I didn't

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Speaker 3: I'm unaware of any of that kind of controversy. What

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Speaker 3: I will say is I think I still view Burleson

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Speaker 3: less as a host and more as a panel member.

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Speaker 3: And I thought the mistake he made was he wanted

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Speaker 3: too hard to be an analyst guy again. And if

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Speaker 3: you're gonna be the host, the moderator moving things around,

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Speaker 3: that's not I just don't think that's your role. If

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Speaker 3: you're raising your hand and say you know what, I'll

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Speaker 3: try that, then be that and and and just allow

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Speaker 3: the people on the panel to sort of mix it up.

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Speaker 3: But I'm I don't know if there was any other

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Speaker 3: kind of.

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Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, Bruce Pearl says size matters and basketball guys,

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Speaker 4: it matters in jewelry and it matters in basketball, and

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Speaker 4: Burlison said not just in basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, that if that's the extent, If that's

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Speaker 3: the only part, I don't love it. It's not original.

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Speaker 3: But come on, and because you know, and I know

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Speaker 3: why Bruce Pearl.

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Speaker 4: Said it, that's the thing. I mean, he can protell well,

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Speaker 4: I didn't really mean that.

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Speaker 3: But that's if you're if you really are bothered by

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Speaker 3: that whole phrase, don't use it.

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Speaker 2: And if you do use it, you know why you're

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Speaker 2: using it right, It's not that difficult.

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Speaker 4: The thing that because I agree to you, I don't

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Speaker 4: think it was great work by Nate Berlson.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a hard job.

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Speaker 4: Johnson and Greg Gumbele have made it look your time, Yes,

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Speaker 4: to get into it, but I thought, again, you want

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Speaker 4: to analyze too much, then don't be in this chair

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Speaker 4: being one of the other chairs. The one thing that

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Speaker 4: just floored me was at one point they were talking

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Speaker 4: about the transfer portal, yes, and how it can work

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Speaker 4: or something, and he brought up the fact that both

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Speaker 4: of his sons are in the transfer portal. He's like, ye,

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Speaker 4: they're blessed about their past, looking forward to their future,

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Speaker 4: but still a little nervous. The kids are in the

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Speaker 4: transfer port It's like no one cares. America does not care.

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Speaker 4: We love them. I hope your kids help the happiness,

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Speaker 4: but we don't need that. Your kids are in the

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Speaker 4: transfer portal right now looking for their next opportunity.

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Speaker 3: What is alec lewis up to at the owners meetings

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Speaker 3: in Phoenix and what are the Vikings up to so far?

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Speaker 3: Interesting comments on a couple of Vikings matters from the

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Speaker 3: head coach already and little speculation kind of confirmed by

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Speaker 3: one of the best coaches in the National Football League

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Speaker 3: that they're kicking the tires on number eight here, number

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Speaker 3: eighteen elsewhere, Kirko Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 3: We've got Dayline Dallas today, Johnny Athletic tracking the return

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Speaker 3: of Anthony Edwards when the Wolves take on the Mavericks

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Speaker 3: tonight in Dallas, a game you can hear on the

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Speaker 3: flagship FM one hundred point three the fan and now

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Speaker 3: we go Dateline Greater Phoenix, Arizona area, the NFL owners meetings,

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Speaker 3: and of course Alec Lewis covers the vikings the National

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Speaker 3: Football League for the Athletic joins us via the Connetico

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Speaker 3: Water Systems hotline. Here is your toss up question, sir.

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Speaker 3: This comes from Tom out of Savage. Can you ask

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Speaker 3: Alec if it is true that the Competition Committee has

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Speaker 3: never been more aligned and collaborative now that KOC is

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Speaker 3: a part of it. Despite lasting an extra hour due

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Speaker 3: to word salad commentary, that's.

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Speaker 7: A deep cut to start off.

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Speaker 8: I'm sitting here by the pool, and I mean we're

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Speaker 8: getting repped up to begin but no, it is funny

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Speaker 8: you hear a little behind the scenes stories of Kevin

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Speaker 8: now being on there with Sean Payton and Sean McVay

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Speaker 8: and Mike Rabel. I mean the amount of I don't know,

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Speaker 8: just juice in the room. There has to be UH

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Speaker 8: has to be fascinated. I can't speak to the collaboration,

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Speaker 8: but only on uh, you know, just the culture of

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Speaker 8: the operation, which sounds sharp.

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Speaker 3: All right, Let's get to the update on if there

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Speaker 3: is one on Grenard, because I think originally it sounded

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Speaker 3: as if it was likely that he was going to

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Speaker 3: be dealt, that there were some contract issues that were

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Speaker 3: getting in the way of him staying in Minnesota. I

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Speaker 3: believe today the head coach said, we expect him on

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Speaker 3: the team, want him on the team. I see a

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Speaker 3: quote from you from Brazinski on Jonathan Grenard really an

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Speaker 3: important player for US, team leader, team captain, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Is this just an effort on the part of the

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Speaker 3: brain wizards to suck up to the player a little

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Speaker 3: bit and almost hope that there can be some sort

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Speaker 3: of a miracle save here, a miracle resolution when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the contract issue. Or is this more like

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Speaker 3: wishful thinking on the part of the head coach.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I think, I mean, I'm not sure how

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Speaker 8: much work they're going to have to do from a

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Speaker 8: sucking up perspective, because I think his contract in the

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Speaker 8: potential new contract has been enough of a hurdle with

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Speaker 8: other teams who would be interested in him via trade.

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Speaker 7: That that hasn't happened.

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Speaker 8: And so I mean, frankly, the way I view this

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Speaker 8: is that part of the reason the Vikings were ever

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Speaker 8: open to training Jonathan Garnard is because it was the

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Speaker 8: team being malleable with him and Drew Rosenhause that I fine,

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Speaker 8: if you want this contract and we're not really willing

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Speaker 8: to go there, and you can get it from somebody

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Speaker 8: else who is willing to pay us in draft capital,

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Speaker 8: then we'll listen. And so then it was incoming upon

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Speaker 8: Drew Rosenhaus and Jonathan Garnard to find another team willing to.

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Speaker 7: Pay that, and thus far I don't think they have.

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Speaker 8: And so I mean right now, and these things, as

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Speaker 8: you know, Dan, they can be, you know, very fluid.

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Speaker 8: Whether Kevin O'Connell sits with how Howie Roseman by the

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Speaker 8: pool in an hour or around the draft.

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Speaker 7: Or in the future, these things can change.

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Speaker 8: But right now, I'd say it doesn't really feel like

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Speaker 8: there's anything imminent, and that is both a byproduct of

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Speaker 8: teams not willing to re up Jonathan Garnard at the

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Speaker 8: contract value he wants and a byproduct of teams not

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Speaker 8: wanting to pay the Vikings the draft capital and compensation

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Speaker 8: that they want for Jonathan Garnard.

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Speaker 3: It sounds as if the Vikings need at the center

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Speaker 3: position was one of the topics of conversation. Topics of

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Speaker 3: conversation that koc was involved in today. What interesting nuggets

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Speaker 3: did we learn regarding that search.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it sounds very clear that they are

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Speaker 8: going to be in the market to draft the center.

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Speaker 8: There is a clump of prospects I would say available

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Speaker 8: proud that are gonna be available probably from the second

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Speaker 8: to fourth round, that they will be looking at. Whether

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Speaker 8: that potential draftee starts day one, I think that's that's

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Speaker 8: more of an up in the air question. But in

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Speaker 8: the meantime, it also does sound like Blake Brandell, who's

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Speaker 8: been kind of they've touted him for years as like

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Speaker 8: he can play all.

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Speaker 7: Five positions and we love his.

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Speaker 8: Depth and versatility, but they've never really shoehorn or pigeonholed

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Speaker 8: him into one position. It sounds like they're doing that

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Speaker 8: with him at center throughout the next few months, and

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Speaker 8: then if they draft someone, it will probably be kind

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Speaker 8: of a mono mono look in training camp for for

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Speaker 8: who gives them the best best opportunity. But I would

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Speaker 8: be shocked at this point if they didn't draft a center.

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Speaker 7: In one of those middle rounds.

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Speaker 2: Any what are they?

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Speaker 4: What caught your attention in your h the Jackals scrum

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Speaker 4: with the head coach today, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think the place that I would start

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Speaker 8: is just obviously the quarterback depths and the amount that

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Speaker 8: they obviously have and are valuing three guys in the

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Speaker 8: quarterback room that they feel, you know, mildly comfortable with.

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Speaker 7: Is what I would say.

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Speaker 8: Like, it just does very much feel like the events

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Speaker 8: of last year and how everything played out.

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Speaker 7: Has, you know, buried deep.

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Speaker 8: Within Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings brass the idea that

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Speaker 8: they really just don't want to find themselves in a

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Speaker 8: situation where they have a quarterback beneath the baseline level

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Speaker 8: that they're coveting, and that they feel like if they

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Speaker 8: have that baseline level, they can win x amount of

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Speaker 8: games and buy for a playoff spot pretty organically.

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Speaker 7: So I think I.

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Speaker 8: Mean that that, you know, just the amount of I

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Speaker 8: don't know how deep it seemed for Kevin O'Connell that

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Speaker 8: that that needed to be the priority of this offseason.

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Speaker 8: That kind of stood out to me from our conversation.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I clear something up for me, is

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Speaker 3: bros Were even on the roster or as a free agent?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is he where?

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Speaker 3: Obviously they're going much more for experience now across the board,

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Speaker 3: but is he even does he belong to this team?

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Speaker 2: Is he a free agent? What do we know about

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Speaker 2: Guardi's guy Brosmar.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, maxis on the team. I actually saw him Saturday

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Speaker 8: at Gophers practice. It was his birthday and he was

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Speaker 8: spending it listening to classical music as the Gophers did

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Speaker 8: a football practice at the indoor facility. But all seriousness,

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Speaker 8: I would be, you know, the expectation for me is

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Speaker 8: that they're going to try to get Max to the

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Speaker 8: practice squad. They won't have to, they won't have to

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Speaker 8: make those declarations for months, but that seems to me

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Speaker 8: the most sensible route. And then you know, if another

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Speaker 8: team plucks him, that that happens. If not, then they'll

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Speaker 8: keep him around and they like even though it played

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Speaker 8: out the way he did, there is still like they

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Speaker 8: still really like having him around.

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Speaker 7: They still believe in him.

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Speaker 8: Obviously didn't go well, and they don't want him to

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Speaker 8: be a snap away from being a snap away, but

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Speaker 8: they can keep him.

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Speaker 7: I think they'd like that.

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Speaker 3: So now official on Addison, correct, we picked up the

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Speaker 3: fifth year option.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that was a particular surprise.

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Speaker 3: So what does that mean about his present and even

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Speaker 3: potentially Addison's future with the Purple.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a pretty procedural move to your point, Like,

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Speaker 8: it's not groundbreaking.

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Speaker 7: The deadline was May first.

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Speaker 8: So it's not as if everything was pending and they

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Speaker 8: needed to make a decision right now. But for me,

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Speaker 8: in my opinion, what it does is, I mean it

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Speaker 8: buys the Vikings time for a further evaluation on him

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Speaker 8: as a player and a aga from an off the

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Speaker 8: field standpoint, how much trust they have in him, Like

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Speaker 8: it's clear through conversations they still view him as an

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Speaker 8: essential cog to the offense that they want to have

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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six. I don't think that precludes them

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Speaker 8: from drafting a receiver in the next few weeks. I

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Speaker 8: wouldn't be surprised if that happens as well. But this,

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Speaker 8: you know, picking up the fifth year option, securing him

661
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Speaker 8: at a fixed cost allows them to evaluate him in

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty six, and then if they get to a

663
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Speaker 8: place where they feel like an extension is warranted, then

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Speaker 8: they can broach that at a la later subject. But

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Speaker 8: it's I think the fifth year option for a receiver

666
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Speaker 8: is like eighteen million. That's like the twenty fifth highest

667
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Speaker 8: paid contract. So it's a pretty standard procedural move.

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Speaker 3: You retweeted an item from Nate Tice. I think it

669
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Speaker 3: was a Yahoo Sports piece in which he wrote about

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Speaker 3: what he describes as the possibility that the quote unquote

671
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Speaker 3: imperfect fit might just work between Kyler Murray and the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: What was the the just the premise of the e

673
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Speaker 3: tys Nate tys reaching that conclusion.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Nate took it from a the question

675
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Speaker 8: of okay, so Kyler Murray signs with the Vikings, And

676
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Speaker 8: the obvious question that everyone was asking and has asked

677
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Speaker 8: and should ask, is how do these two worlds fit?

678
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Speaker 7: And what does this marriage look like?

679
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Speaker 8: You have a guy in Kyler Murray, who obviously is

680
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 8: a an out of structure playmaker with an offense that is,

681
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Speaker 8: as you know, choreographed and designed and almost surgical and

682
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Speaker 8: how and where it wants to attack. And so I

683
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Speaker 8: mean Nate was really looking at the film and the

684
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Speaker 8: numbers to assess, like, can these two worlds meet.

685
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Speaker 7: I think his assessment.

686
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Speaker 8: And his review aligns with a lot of people you

687
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Speaker 8: talk to in the league where they think it will work,

688
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Speaker 8: specifically in terms of Kyler's ability to throw down the

689
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Speaker 8: field and.

690
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Speaker 7: Utilize his arm talent.

691
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Speaker 8: But I still think he had this question, and everyone

692
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Speaker 8: in the league has this question of I, I Vike, you'd

693
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Speaker 8: love to attack over the middle of the field. That

694
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Speaker 8: hasn't been Kyler's greatest strong suit. So how do you

695
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Speaker 8: or do you or can you work around that? I

696
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 8: think that layer of this marriage is going to be

697
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Speaker 8: something we evaluate all through the spring and summer and fall,

698
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Speaker 8: and I expect after conversation today that a lot of

699
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Speaker 8: the reps, specifically in the fall will go to Kyler.

700
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Speaker 8: So it should give us a pretty clear picture of.

701
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Speaker 7: How things look.

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Speaker 3: Alec lewis covering the owner's meetings in Arizona, joining us

703
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Speaker 3: this afternoon or evening on the fan. One other Grenard

704
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Speaker 3: thought came into my head that I want to come

705
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Speaker 3: back over because on the text line when we've discussed

706
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Speaker 3: his situation, there have been a number of people who

707
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Speaker 3: said they're galled with the or they find great gall

708
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: and gumption in the notion that Grenard's agent wants more

709
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: money despite the fact that some of his production last

710
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: year did not measure up to the year before, even

711
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Speaker 3: though by current standards, his his money is probably low

712
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: despite some of that production. Now give me your view

713
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Speaker 3: on all of the important production aspects, including some of

714
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Speaker 3: the inside stuff, comparing his twenty four and twenty five season,

715
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Speaker 3: because for a lot of fans it's he wasn't anywhere

716
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: near the players, So how dare he even ask for anything?

717
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: At this point, he should be happy with the contract

718
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: he has. How did the Vikings grade him last season?

719
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the Vikings really still strongly believe that

720
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Speaker 8: he is one of the I mean, I don't know,

721
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Speaker 8: probably top fifteen twenty edg rushers in the NFL, like

722
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Speaker 8: at a at a bare minimum, and that value tends

723
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Speaker 8: to hover around twenty to twenty five million dollars in

724
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Speaker 8: average annual value, and so he's owed nineteen million and

725
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 8: twenty twenty six, nineteen million and twenty twenty seven. I'm

726
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 8: ballparking numbers here, but let's say j Rosenhaus wants a

727
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 8: five million dollar increase per season. He'd probably be within

728
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 8: his rights and within reason asking for that, given where

729
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 8: the market has gone with the increase.

730
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Speaker 7: In the salary cap.

731
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Speaker 8: Now, as far as assessing his production in twenty twenty

732
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Speaker 8: five versus twenty four, the first thing that I think

733
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Speaker 8: is really important to mention is the health.

734
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Speaker 7: I mean, he only played twelve.

735
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 8: Games, he started ten. Injuries have been a theme in

736
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Speaker 8: his past. It's part of the reason why the Vikings

737
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 8: were able to sign him for this initial contract before

738
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Speaker 8: the twenty twenty four season. So there's that part of it.

739
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Speaker 8: And then just from a metric standpoint, I mean, he

740
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Speaker 8: had twelve sacks in twenty twenty four. He had three

741
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 8: sacks in twenty twenty five. That is obviously a major chasm,

742
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Speaker 8: but if you look at some of the advanced numbers,

743
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Speaker 8: rush win rate, run stop rate, a lot of quick

744
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 8: pressure rate, his numbers and the metrics were actually better

745
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty five than they were twenty twenty four.

746
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Speaker 8: So it's really like the difficulty of this conversation, and

747
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Speaker 8: part of the reason I think it got down the

748
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 8: road of fine, if you want to go seek this

749
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 8: deal from another team, go ahead, is because there are

750
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Speaker 8: a lot of different ways to view his production and

751
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 8: his value, given the discrepancy in some of the numbers,

752
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 8: given the injury history, it's kind of a difficult and

753
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 8: complex one. That doesn't it's not all too dissimilar to

754
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 8: me from Josh Matellis's situation last year where Josh entered

755
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 8: training camp, didn't practice a ton, had a little ankle

756
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 8: thing that allowed for some negotiation time, then ultimately both

757
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 8: sides settled at a number that was probably more where

758
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 8: the Viking started. Josh is also represented by Drew Rosenhalk,

759
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 8: So I see a little bit of like similarity.

760
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 7: Within these two situations, if that makes sense.

761
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Speaker 3: Is it fair to say that in the end, daneil

762
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Speaker 3: Hunter is a flat out better player than Grenard, even

763
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Speaker 3: if you like Grenard, And I know there's also questions

764
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: of who fits better into a given defense, But how

765
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Speaker 3: do you as we look back the long view, now,

766
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: how do you feel about that assertion?

767
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I mean the point you mentioned about

768
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 8: the specific defense that that was the thing. I mean,

769
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Speaker 8: Daniel Hunter fit perfectly into Mike Zimmer's system, which was

770
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Speaker 8: a I mean, you just go, there's no reader reacting.

771
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 8: It is an aggressive style of edge defender like responsibility,

772
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 8: whereas Brian Floora is.

773
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Speaker 7: Sometimes he does need you to drop, sometimes he does.

774
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 8: He need you to set the edge and not just attack.

775
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 8: So I think Grenard is a much better fit for

776
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 8: Brian Flora's system. But they're like I personally, damn believe

777
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 8: that Daniel was one of the most underrated players in

778
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 8: the NFL. His level of just consistency when he's been

779
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 8: healthy as a producer and just as a game changer.

780
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 7: I just like people. I bet if I talk to people.

781
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 8: Around this pool, they would agree with me, the Ben

782
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 8: Johnson and the Kyle Shanahans of the world. But yeah,

783
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 8: it's it's I think if you look back, you probably

784
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 8: say the Vikings made the right decision for their specific

785
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 8: system and both parties have really reaped the rewards of

786
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 8: the moves that they made there.

787
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: Did I see a report that the Rams head coach

788
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: says he's kicking the tires on bringing in Kirk Cousins

789
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: as a backup.

790
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 7: QB.

791
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 8: Absolutely you did, and absolutely that is the truth and

792
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 8: has been behind the scenes.

793
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 7: It's kind of an interesting one.

794
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 8: It's my understanding with Kirk that the Raiders have definitely

795
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 8: been interested in potentially adding him as put like a

796
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 8: bridge to allow Fernando Mendoza to develop as he evolves

797
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 8: into an NFL system.

798
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Speaker 7: And if that that doesn't happen, then that's where you do.

799
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Speaker 7: You know, you go down the road of would Kirk

800
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Speaker 7: be willing.

801
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 8: To be a backup with a guy with a guyin

802
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 8: Seauan McVay who he still loves and highly respects and

803
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 8: there's a lot of mutual respect there. I also think,

804
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 8: I mean the Packers and Matt Lafleur would would be

805
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 8: interested in Kirk Cousins as a backup. So then it

806
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 8: would probably go down the road for Kirk of do

807
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 8: I sit and wait and see if somebody gets hurt,

808
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 8: or do I sign with one of these opportunities where.

809
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 7: If I have to fill in, I succeed.

810
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 8: So it would be kind of interesting, but I'd still

811
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 8: put the Raiders opportunity as the most likely for him.

812
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: Do you want to get in on the debate the

813
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: forest fire that I get. Maybe I guess the better

814
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: term is brush fire that your compadre, Johnny Athletic started

815
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: much earlier in the program and assertion, well.

816
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: I set it up. I set him up.

817
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 3: I'll admit a little bit on the basis of a text,

818
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 3: but the basic premise was that there's no comparison between

819
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: the effort that's involved in being a professional hockey player

820
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 3: compared to being a professional basketball player. Johnny torched that

821
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 3: particular premise starting said brush fire, and to this moment

822
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: the texts have not stopped coming in. You want to

823
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: get in on that because you're football So you could say, well,

824
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: I don't have the built in basketball interest.

825
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: Well you may have the interest, but you don't cover it.

826
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: You don't have the built in hockey deal that You're

827
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: not going to be objective that way.

828
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Speaker 2: Do you want to try to break the you know,

829
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: break the deadlock.

830
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 8: Well, I'm curious to go back and listen to John's

831
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 8: like reasoning against hockey because my I mean, you know this,

832
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Speaker 8: I'm from Alabama, Like I don't know, I don't really

833
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 8: know anything about hockey, but I am just I'm marvel

834
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 8: at the you know the level of the skating ability, yeah,

835
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 8: and the stick ability and all this stuff that I

836
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 8: am acting like I have any idea about that.

837
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 7: I really don't know about. But I think John as.

838
00:41:54,719 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 8: Usual is under He's just underplaying the sport that that is.

839
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 7: I mean, I think hockey.

840
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 8: I'm catering to the audience here, But I have the

841
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 8: utmost respect for those guys. And it's not to take

842
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 8: anything away from the from the nas reads of the world.

843
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 3: I promise, Oh, hockey doesn't have any load management. Basketball does.

844
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: I'm a basketball guy with that part of it's undeniable.

845
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: That's why there's a Is there a sixty five game

846
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: minimum rule in in the NHL. No, they don't need it,

847
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: but obviously the NBA did. There was a reason that.

848
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: Rule was put in.

849
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: So we'll have to We'll have to see. What are

850
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: anything any other I mean, it sounds it looks to

851
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: me like basing. The photos, the backdrop, the aesthetics where

852
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: these meetings are going on are almost ridiculous, how cushy

853
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 3: oh it is. And so I'm not sure that lends

854
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: to a you know, sort of the the pitbull media mentality.

855
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 4: That I'm looking for at a time like this. I mean,

856
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: does it soften all you guys up? Do you think

857
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 4: that's part of the idea.

858
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, it's a strategy.

859
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 7: There's no question.

860
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 8: You get us out here. You know, you've been been

861
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 8: in Minnesota winner for months and we're here. I mean,

862
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 8: like earlier today, I'm sitting here and here comes Kyle

863
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 8: Shanahan and and I mean, these guys are dressed to

864
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 8: the nines. You got Liam Cohen with a Louis Vauton

865
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 8: shirt button into sweatpants. I mean, it's it is, it

866
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 8: is absurd, And yeah, it's distracting, and so you can't

867
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 8: focus on challenging the you know, holding to account these

868
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 8: people who.

869
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 7: Are you know, you have to do it.

870
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's it's definitely strategic. But I will say

871
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 8: on you know, like coming down here, I thought to myself,

872
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 8: I'm like, you know, from a Viking standpoint, things are

873
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 8: pretty settled until this draft.

874
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 7: And I think this draft will be a.

875
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 8: Fascinating one because they have as many needs as they have.

876
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 8: This week is probably more suited for a guy like

877
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 8: Kevin Seffert, who told me out here by the pool

878
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 8: as he was standing idle by himself, that he was

879
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 8: grinding and he couldn't make it and told me to.

880
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 7: Tell you guys to say that.

881
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's probably more suited for a referee expert

882
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 8: like him.

883
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah that doesn't surprise me.

884
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: Well, have fun out there, do just enough reporting so

885
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: you don't blow your cover anymore than you already have,

886
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Speaker 4: and we'll we will talk to you soon.

887
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Speaker 7: Thank you anytime.

888
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, appreciate you, absolutely you as well. Alec Lewis

889
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Speaker 3: from the Athletic.

890
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Speaker 2: Breshwan.

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Speaker 3: Brian Kafin text line has been red hot pretty much

892
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Speaker 3: start to finish on this show via the usual six

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Speaker 3: four six eighty six. We'll come back with one text

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Speaker 3: in particular, I want to get to and then maybe

895
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: ode to a dead.

896
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Speaker 2: Guy as well. Stay tuned.

897
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Speaker 4: And band celebrates our five thousand dollars teacher winners and

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Speaker 2: It's good to be the University of Michigan these days.

904
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: The basketball team in the Final four a dominant run

905
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: thus far, and I don't think anybody would be shocked

906
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: if they end up hoisting the Lombardi Trophy on Monday

907
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: night and the women's team is about to take the

908
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: court in an Elite eight game with a chance to

909
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: also make the Final Four. That's pretty good daily double

910
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: final four for both the men and the women if

911
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: it works out that way.

912
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: And did they not also advanced to the Frozen Four

913
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 4: on the hockey side, they I'm pretty sure they did

914
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: over the weekend.

915
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: They have everything and we have nothing. Yeah, football program's

916
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: got a good coach now, and.

917
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 4: Then they basically they bamboozled us into thinking that JJ

918
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: McCarthy was going to be a great pro quarterback and

919
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 4: now we're.

920
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: Stuck with him. That's how good Michigan is.

921
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: They made JJ McCarthy look like a top ten brainer quarterback.

922
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: That's exactly it.

923
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: Johnny made his statement on the perfect day because tonight

924
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: Anaheim Ducks defenseman is taking off his walking boot to

925
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 3: face the Toronto Maple Leafs who want revenge on him

926
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 3: for his hit against Austin Matthews. Balls in your court, Johnny,

927
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: NBA equals load management, NHL. Let me take off my

928
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: cast so we can fight on the ice game set match.

929
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: I guess if that's is that even true?

930
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: That's well played.

931
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: It's very very well played, that's for sure. Let's get

932
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: to it now.

933
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, and now it's time for ode to a dead guy.

934
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: We oded former Vikings linebacker Jeff Seeman, who died over

935
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: the weekend on the same day, although the story broke

936
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: I think a little later. Vikings All All Pro standout

937
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: safety Joey Browner has died at the age of sixty

938
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: five years old. He made the Ring of Honor in

939
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen. I believe he made six Pro Bowls and

940
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: was I think first Team All Pro either three or

941
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: four times. I think it was three. I was around

942
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: for a decent part of his run and one of

943
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: the the in terms of players Vikings players I have watched,

944
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: had a chance to watch and to cover. You don't

945
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: have to go very far from the top of the

946
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: list to put Joey Browner right there. An incredible combo

947
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: platter of quickness, power, and pretty much everything you're looking

948
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: for in a He's a safety, but at times played

949
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: like a linebacker, at times played like the monster back

950
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: I talk about that used to be a position in

951
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: college football where he could do some of pretty much everything,

952
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: and he's been battling.

953
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: I think it's fairly clear.

954
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: There have been a lot of reports he's been battling

955
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: health issues for a while, although the Vikings did not

956
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: disclose his cause of death. Yeah, he was first team

957
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 3: All Pro three times. He was at the Vikings between

958
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty three and nineteen ninety one. And you know

959
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: what's weird is one of my lasting memories of Joey

960
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 3: Browner is on a play that made the entire Vikings

961
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: defense look bad. And it was the famous or infamous,

962
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: depending on I want to look at it. Steve Young

963
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: scramble for like fifty yards through everybody on the Vikings defense.

964
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: But what I remember is Browner's effort.

965
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 4: As I recall it, Young is kind of stumbling into

966
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 4: the end zone after making people miss breaking tackles.

967
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: And this was to win a game too, by the way.

968
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: But at the very end, Browner, again showing nothing but effort,

969
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: just takes a dive on top of his back to

970
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: try to stop him. The QB's momentum was such he

971
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: was going to get in any way, but it was

972
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: the old I'm not going to quit. I'm not going

973
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: to stop trying to get this guy, prevent this guy

974
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: from getting into the end zone. Remember, he's the third

975
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: of four Browner brothers who all played in the National

976
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: Football League he had. He ranks third in team history

977
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: with seventeen forced fumbles thirty seven interceptions, fifth most in Vikings'

978
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: history as well part of the fifty Greatest Vikings who

979
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: were announced in twenty ten. I think Jeff Semen is

980
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: on that team as well, But in the peck order

981
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 3: of great players, Joey Browner was absolute great player. Ben

982
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: Gesling got a quote when this was when Harrison Smith

983
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: intercepted his thirty eighth pass to surpassed Browner, and at

984
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: the time, Smith said, he was a guy who helped

985
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: define what it is to be a safety. We probably

986
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 3: had kind of similar games. Pretty physical guys would also

987
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: turn the ball over well, and that's it. That's the combination.

988
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 3: When you think of a safety, the best safeties you

989
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: do think of both, right, You think of ballhawk and

990
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: you think of the power to bring people down to.

991
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: Make tackles as well.

992
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what I think Joey Browner indeed represented.

993
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: He was the ninth.

994
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 3: He was picked nineteenth overall in the nineteen eighty three

995
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: NFL Draft. This is out of Southern cal And, by

996
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: the way, one of his teammates in Minnesota, Rich Gannon,

997
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: is going to join us tomorrow. Schedule for what I say,

998
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: say four to thirty or four I think four to thirty.

999
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 2: This is what I had said. Yeah, that's exactly right,

1000
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 2: so Gannon.

1001
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: We'll talk to Gannon about a lot of stuff. But

1002
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: what his remembrances of Joey Browner would be another one,

1003
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: and again Guestling reminds us that Browner was the only

1004
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: it was the only time the Vikings drafted a safety

1005
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: in the first round until Harrison Smith was taken with

1006
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: the twenty ninth overall pick in two thousand and twelve.

1007
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: Should also mention on the All Pro thing first team

1008
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 3: All Pro, not Pro Bowl.

1009
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: There's a distinction.

1010
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 3: First team All Pro, three times second team All Pro.

1011
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: Once he finished his career. I don't even remember this,

1012
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 3: but he finished his career in nineteen ninety two with

1013
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Tampa Bay Bucks. But I mentioned, you've

1014
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: got interceptions, you've got some big time tackles, You've got

1015
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: you know, taking the ball away and recovering fumbles as well.

1016
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 3: All those things were a part of what made him

1017
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 3: such a special player.

1018
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: There's no question about that.

1019
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: Steve Jordan, the former Vikings tight end, saying, we've lost

1020
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: a great friend and one of the best Vikings teammates.

1021
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: God blessed Joey with phenomenal talent and a big heart

1022
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: to love people and be a beacon of positivity. Truly,

1023
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: he will be missed. And as we said, Browner passed

1024
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 3: away the same day as Jeff Seman, the former Vikings

1025
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: linebacker who played eleven seasons for the team. They were

1026
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: both members of the Vikings' fifty Greatest Vikings Team, which

1027
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: was assembled during the anniversary the fiftieth anniversary of the

1028
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: club in twenty ten. It's also worth noting that on

1029
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: the NFL nineteen eighties All Decade Team, Browner was a

1030
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 3: second team pick that was, by the way, selected by

1031
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 3: you'd like to think people who know the Pro Football

1032
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame voters were the ones who named him

1033
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 3: to the second team All Decade team at the safety position.

1034
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 4: Ronnie a lot right, I'm assuming it had the only

1035
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: guy that you could put above him.

1036
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: It had to think that.

1037
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: I'll what decade eighties? Yeah, it would have to be

1038
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: Ronnie Lott. And that's that's the beauty of it is

1039
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: that if you're second only to Ronnie Lott, you can

1040
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: still be incredibly great. And Ronnie Lott was absurdly great,

1041
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: and of course he also had the advantage. I'm playing

1042
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 3: on a lot of winning teams and by the way,

1043
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: a lot of the reason they won was him. Wasn't

1044
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: Ronnie Lott? You want to talk about toughness? Yes, wasn't he?

1045
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: Where you're going to.

1046
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: The football player who basically was told, well, if you

1047
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: want to keep playing, we're going to have to like

1048
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 3: remove the tip of your finger.

1049
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: We can't save the tip of the face, so we

1050
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: have to slice it off. Yep.

1051
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 3: And Ronnie Lott raised his hand and said, slice it, doc,

1052
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 3: do it. I'm going to keep playing football. A hell

1053
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: of a call too, hell of a player and a

1054
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 3: hell of a quote as well.

1055
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: Ronnie Latt and Kenny easily were Then.

1056
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: Those are there, you go, I mean those are all

1057
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: time players as well, There's no any question about that.

1058
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 3: Those are those are really really big big names for sure.

1059
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 4: If you go to the People Stadium this fall, you

1060
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 4: will see for any game. Multiple Joey Browner jerseys still

1061
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: to this day's true. Yeah, if you go, he's one

1062
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: of those guys. He's one of those guys that just

1063
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: generation generation generation, and for my generation. I think you'll

1064
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: appreciate this because of how you and your dad used

1065
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 4: to watch games. He's one of the first players because

1066
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 4: I was young when he was playing, you know, eight, nine, ten,

1067
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 4: at the end of his career, but he's one that

1068
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: I can vividly remember, like when you go to a game,

1069
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 4: my dad would tell me, well, that's Joey guy. Yeah,

1070
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 4: watched forty seven. Yep, those bid memory of that. There's

1071
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 4: only a few of those. But that's why you're you're

1072
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: hearing the you're hearing what you're hearing about him today.

1073
00:54:59,040 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 2: That's very well said.

1074
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: I think somebody's asking was Joey brown On one of

1075
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: the original Monster backs? For me, yes, because when I

1076
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: think of that term, which I think is underutilized, he's

1077
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: the kind of player I think of. He technically played safety,

1078
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: but had some linebacker capabilities at times, ballhawking capability at times.

1079
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: He could do pretty much everything on the field, and

1080
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 3: that's what I associate with the physicality of a monster back,

1081
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: but the elusiveness of a defensive back. That's just making

1082
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: plays that you don't necessarily associate with the linebacker position.

1083
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: And technically he was not a linebacker, but I thought

1084
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: some of what he offered had linebacker like possibilities and

1085
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: adds to me why the monster back description fits him

1086
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: very nicely. Let's come back and wrap up the program.

1087
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: Remind you what we have coming up on a very

1088
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: special program tomorrow right here in.

1089
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1090
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00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: Larry Mondella Guy writes, as much as I'd like to

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Speaker 3: fan the flames and pile on Johnny, if you listen

1095
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 3: to what he said, which I know is hard for

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00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: hockey fans. Wow, he specifically said the normal activity and

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00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 3: moving to hockey versus basketball, not including checking. In that perspective,

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00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: He's one hundred percent correct. Hockey community should have a

1099
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 3: beer and work on comprehension skills beer. On the other hand,

1100
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: you could argue that, well, you can't lead checking out

1101
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 3: because checking is a part of hockey, so to say, well,

1102
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: but not including that.

1103
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: So at all.

1104
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: I stand by my position, which is they are both

1105
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 3: extremely taxing in different ways.

1106
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: They use different skills.

1107
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 3: Somebody tried to suggest, well, if you did if you

1108
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: asked hockey players to do some basic basketball drills, they

1109
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: would do that pretty well. If you ask basketball players

1110
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: do basic hockey drills, they would, they would, they would,

1111
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: they would die, or they would not succeed.

1112
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: But the fatal flaw to.

1113
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 3: Me in that logic is, well, in the case of

1114
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: the latter, it's because.

1115
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: They didn't grow up playing the game.

1116
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 4: So the idea that they wouldn't be as prepared for

1117
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 4: some aspects of those drills, isn't that directly related to

1118
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 4: what your sensibilities are and what you've done for the first,

1119
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 4: I don't know, fifteen to twenty twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: Of your life.

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00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: I would think yes, I just don't think that. To

1122
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 3: me is that's not going to break the tie. I

1123
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 3: just think they are both. And I think again, we

1124
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: get the anti basketball people get too lost in the

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00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: effort thing, as if it's the only sport in which

1126
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: effort can ever be questioned, And that's just nonsense. If

1127
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: you are paying attention, if you're only remembering what you

1128
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: want to remember and leading out, for example, the number

1129
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: of players you don't even run hard to first base

1130
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: then find you just admit that you're rigging the game. Tomorrow,

1131
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: rich Gannon will join. Luigi will join tomorrow as well.

1132
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: Maybe we can get him on that controversial subject today.

1133
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: Outstanding contributions from John Athletic from Dallas where the Wolves

1134
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 3: will be taking on the Mavericks later tonight right here

1135
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: on the fan thirty tips seven to fifteen prix even better.

1136
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: And then Alec Lewis joined us at five point thirty

1137
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 3: from the winter meeting, so to speak.

1138
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: Are we getting Sea for this week at all? Or

1139
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: is he too busy for us? Both? Really? Yes, we

1140
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: are going to get him.

1141
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,959
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's probably going to be a Wednesday, okay,

1142
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 4: I asked him.

1143
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: I said, what would work for you today? Later in

1144
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: the week. He thought later in the week would be better.

1145
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 4: Okay, And that's why he had to make sure to

1146
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 4: mention to Alec Lewis. Yes, poolside in Phoenix, tell him

1147
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 4: I'm busy, even though he was clearly just walking to

1148
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 4: a party.

1149
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: Or now the schedule tonight, I'm assuming fan and the.

1150
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 4: Man in the air, Yes, and then it's going to

1151
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 4: extended version of fanom demand to get us to seven

1152
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 4: fourteen and as that as we wrap up here at

1153
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: the bottom of the hour, I've already issued my pledge.

1154
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 4: I'm staying late, oh right after the show to complete

1155
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 4: the toxic spill, the cleanup of the barero toxic latte

1156
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 4: spill yesterday that I started but then didn't finish, and

1157
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 4: apparently it became the scandal topic that filled three hours

1158
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 4: of the comment program, the claim being that he couldn't

1159
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: have his meal because he couldn't micro it when there's

1160
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 4: a second micro about five steps from where he was

1161
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 4: that I use every day actually, and I haven't.

1162
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: Soiled that one yet, so in any case, not yet.

1163
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: It's early.

1164
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 4: So that's my pledge. It will be clean as a

1165
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 4: whistle tomorrow.

1166
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 3: I can't be held responsible for what the Morning Show

1167
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: does to it, to maybe continue the bit or others

1168
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: to just to try to continue to get this thing going.

1169
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: But I have as soon as I heard about it,

1170
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 3: which wasn't until the text line, I had no idea

1171
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 3: this has been a topic.

1172
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: It in that microwave exactly.

1173
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 3: I immediately took full responsibility for it and said, yeah,

1174
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: I started cleaning it up, and I forgot the damn

1175
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: thing I left because there's in a hurry to get

1176
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 3: out of here on Sunday morning or at Sunday to eleven,

1177
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: So that will be rectified no matter how long it takes.

1178
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: I got a full set of wipes to make sure

1179
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: that it's all the leftover fu fu remnants of the

1180
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: drink are out. And then the plate that goes on

1181
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: a you know, kind of in a circle, that'll be

1182
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: cleaned up as well, all right, and then it'll be

1183
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 3: up to anybody to do what they want to do, or,

1184
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 3: as I said, just use the other my grave that.

1185
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 4: Was available right there. I look forward to twelve o

1186
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: six tomorrow when it gets brought up again. Oh my god,

1187
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 4: twelve six that late.

1188
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: Well he has a long intro, Yeah, that's true, is

1189
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: a long instr Yeah, because I guess it was. They

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01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: played it like as a as a mock mystery, like

1191
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: who could it be?

1192
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: See the good.

1193
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 3: Contrast is it's I always I don't need to be

1194
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 3: a detective to know that if I walk in and

1195
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: there are food crumbs that I have to clean up,

1196
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: it ain't a big mystery to know who left them there.

1197
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 3: This one apparently was more of a mystery as a result.

1198
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: You think there's you think there's a reason that I've

1199
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: come in with wipes for like the last ten years

1200
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: of doing this show.

1201
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: You think that's just an accident.

1202
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: Well you didn't have to do it today because he

1203
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 4: couldn't micro aids. Maybe that's the use, that's the answer,

1204
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 4: Or how about it.

1205
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: He could just eat earlier, start as column.

1206
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 3: Earlier, started as Carlum earlier as well. All those things

1207
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: might be possible.

1208
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, Anthony Edwards is back tonight, we think,

1209
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 4: and Desumo is back.

1210
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: We think.

1211
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 3: Jade McDaniels is out now, perhaps for a longer period

1212
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: of time. And we are really right now fighting basically

1213
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: right for fifth and sixth because we now find ourselves

1214
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: three games behind Denver, who have suddenly gotten hot as

1215
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: they have gotten healthier.

1216
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: So they're not messing around right now, No, they're not.

1217
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 4: They got the break because Curry didn't play yesterday, but

1218
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 4: they took advantage of the big advantage we have I

1219
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 4: think still over them is we do when we are

1220
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: in the mood, we can guard better.

1221
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 3: They're not a great defensive team at all. They're more

1222
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: of there were outscoring people which they can do. Murray

1223
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 3: had fifty seven yesterday?

1224
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: Is that what he had?

1225
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had that was a second fifty plus or

1226
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 3: wasn't in the last like two weeks. He's good when

1227
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: he's on, There's no question about that. So we'll see

1228
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 3: how that goes. But it looks like we're basically going

1229
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: to be six or five, which means again, not even

1230
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: one series of home ice advantage, which I kind of.

1231
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: Like, I know it does. It's not We've done fine

1232
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: without it, but sooner or later.

1233
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 3: It can catch up with you if you continue to

1234
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 3: play with that kind of far, as we say in

1235
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: the business, the kind of far that Johnny Athletic set

1236
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 3: the arsonist that he is the media arsonist, that he

1237
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 3: said earlier in the show, and I admit I might

1238
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: have set him up a little bit the quote.

1239
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: I didn't. I could have ignored the text.

1240
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 3: I didn't do that, and it made for some good

1241
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 3: speaking of filling programming.

1242
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: It helped up us as well.

1243
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 3: Back tomorrow with rich Gannon, Louis Nan and who else,

1244
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: who knows who else, beginning at three o'clock.

1245
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: Well go Twins, Thank you for the airtime, and I'll

1246
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: talk to you soon.