Speaker 1: FAsMA phobia, fear of ghosts, oh or supernatural. And by
Speaker 1: the way, it's not like you only have it at
Speaker 1: Halloween time right where probably just well now it's very
Speaker 1: amped up. It is very very amped up.
Speaker 2: And so they say that it is people who have
Speaker 2: hold on I pulled this out here Halloween or I
Speaker 2: can never say ita dia daia whatever.
Speaker 3: Mortos Yeah, say again the day of the day las mortos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't. It doesn't sound right when I
Speaker 1: say it. It sounds very like I'm faking it. Well
Speaker 1: you are, well, yeah, I don't speak Spanish. Da delos moyertoes.
Speaker 4: That it was so good until you cut to the
Speaker 4: last word.
Speaker 1: It's a bigger word. That's the problem. It's a bigger word.
Speaker 1: Were toes were toes anyway? Anyway. Obviously that ramps it
Speaker 1: up because it's present everywhere. But they said it's a
Speaker 1: persistent fear cued by the anticipation or presence of objects
Speaker 1: symbolic of ghosts or supernatural phenomena. Now, I can't think
Speaker 1: of what would be like a supernatural phenomena. Would it
Speaker 1: just be like you think that there's a ghost in the.
Speaker 3: House summoning somebody on a Ouiji board.
Speaker 2: Seans seans, what about just fortune telling?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe. I guess that kind of
Speaker 1: tiptoes into that world.
Speaker 5: So are these people hear about this time yesterday caller
Speaker 5: saying Halloween's too scary, and they say.
Speaker 4: It's gotten No, it's year round for me.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah no, And they do say that for people.
Speaker 1: Who are FAsMA FAsMA phobic, that it is. It's worse now,
Speaker 1: but they deal with it all year. They deal with it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times you're seeing ghosts all year,
Speaker 1: but I think that's where it kind of ventures into
Speaker 1: the supernatural.
Speaker 5: Is you're telling me you don't have to see ghosts.
Speaker 5: It's just a thought, yes, correct, correct.
Speaker 4: Well that it's not a good phobia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how many times you have thoughts and ghosts?
Speaker 3: Not much?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: You you you may, You just don't realize it because
Speaker 5: you're not terrified of those thoughts.
Speaker 2: Kristen, Will you do me a favor?
Speaker 1: Will you see if you can find me somebody who's
Speaker 1: fat I can't say the word fasmophobic. Please, somebody who
Speaker 1: has a fear of ghosts, spirits, apparitions, fear of the supernatural.
Speaker 3: So remember in your old house you had Arthur.
Speaker 1: Yes, that would yeah, no, that would send somebody to
Speaker 1: the Looney But you can't.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry the looney.
Speaker 5: Oh I thought you said Finn, which reminded me of
Speaker 5: Kristen's favorite shop.
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh no, But yes, if you thought.
Speaker 3: Your house Papa was going to say, ben.
Speaker 1: No, if you thought your house was haunted and you
Speaker 1: were fasmophobic, yeah, yeah, it would send you.
Speaker 2: It would send you to the funny House.
Speaker 4: You couldn't live there.
Speaker 2: No, that's what I need. You'd have to leave. You
Speaker 2: couldn't be there.
Speaker 5: Your story's freaked out people who didn't have this phobia.
Speaker 2: You know. And I still I've never gone back to
Speaker 2: ask the people who live.
Speaker 3: There now they ever had any weird yea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well obviously I knew the people that we sold
Speaker 1: it to. Ye after he got fired, he sold the house.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if any of the new people
Speaker 1: in there now have it weird.
Speaker 3: If Arthur traveled with you to your new.
Speaker 2: Home, yeah, that would have been horrible.
Speaker 5: Isn't that the one thing you're promised about ghosts that
Speaker 5: they never leave, they never travels, right?
Speaker 1: But yeah, Christensen, you can find me somebody whom they
Speaker 1: themselves are are fearful of ghosts or the supernatural, or
Speaker 1: somebody in their family, spouse, whatever, eight six six to
Speaker 1: Elliott eight six two three five five four six eight Great.
Speaker 4: The idea that ghosts don't travel is a misconception.
Speaker 2: Oh, so they do travel.
Speaker 5: I guess some ghosts may have unfinished business or be
Speaker 5: attached to a location, but it's certainly not a catch
Speaker 5: all for all bodies.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. Arthur did not travel. Arthur did
Speaker 1: not go from Falls Church to Arlington.
Speaker 3: Did you under that though?
Speaker 2: No, because I was just under the assumption. It stays.
Speaker 3: What if Arthur showed up in a box? Hello, here
Speaker 3: I am with the kitchen stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it never. Never, never. I was never fearful
Speaker 2: of that. And nothing has happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've lived in Arlington House forever, so nothing
Speaker 1: has happened that made me think, Oh, I guess who
Speaker 1: hitched a ride?
Speaker 2: Am I going to line one? Hi Elliot in the morning, Hi,
Speaker 2: good morning earlier, Hi, Happy Halloween.
Speaker 7: Happy Halloween. As somebody who suffers from I also struggle
Speaker 7: saying it fantasma phobia. Halloween is my favorite holiday. I
Speaker 7: love scary movies. Things of that sort. But the difference
Speaker 7: is I can't watch scary movies that are like like
Speaker 7: I don't I haven't seen The Conjuring. I haven't seen
Speaker 7: you know, paranormal activity things like I prefer the people
Speaker 7: killing people.
Speaker 1: Right, so you can take yeah, you could take like
Speaker 1: a slasher flick, but not a supernatural flick one hundred.
Speaker 7: Like if I don't even wear Oigi board things, my
Speaker 7: heart's racing right now just thinking about it. If you
Speaker 7: pull out a wigi board, I will start screaming, like
Speaker 7: it's not funny at all.
Speaker 2: Question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you said you won't wear a wigi board thing,
Speaker 1: I don't what does that mean?
Speaker 7: Like you know, you can have like a necklace or
Speaker 7: like earrings or things like that, Like if it has
Speaker 7: to do with the Oiji board, I don't want anything
Speaker 7: to do with that. I've also never seen that movie Wichi.
Speaker 7: It is I like, like Tyler was saying, I do
Speaker 7: think about it a lot, do you realize? And I do?
Speaker 7: I do? And it's I hate to say that. It
Speaker 7: also comes with like the thought of like the rapture
Speaker 7: and the thought of like you know, biblic biblically accurate
Speaker 7: angels and all that type of stuff like that you.
Speaker 2: Are you are deep in the hole, you are a
Speaker 2: fortune teller.
Speaker 7: I don't watch medium shows like yeah terrified.
Speaker 2: Wait, So like I understand, I obviously I know.
Speaker 1: What a ouiji board is, but like, will you avoid
Speaker 1: things like the Italian maloic and stuff like what is
Speaker 1: the eye is the Greek?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So is the eye is the eye? That's is that Greek?
Speaker 1: So will you avoid all things like that as well?
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess I'm not even sure what any
Speaker 7: of that is.
Speaker 1: It would be elliot, where are you on? Like like
Speaker 1: friendly ghosts like Casper?
Speaker 7: There's no such thing. I believe that energy cannot be
Speaker 7: created nor destroyed. I understand that, so you know, the
Speaker 7: body may be gone, decomposed, whatever, We're still creative of
Speaker 7: matter and energy. So like the fact that I know
Speaker 7: that does not give me any comfort, It actually makes its.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: I hope this comes out right because I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to offend, but I'm hearing I'm hearing an accent.
Speaker 2: Where are you from? What's your background?
Speaker 7: Every where? I grew up right outside of Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not I'm not Cherry Hill, New Jersey that
Speaker 2: I'm hearing.
Speaker 7: Well, I moved up to New York for a little
Speaker 7: bit and I live in I mean.
Speaker 1: Everywhere you know, is your family like like like Hispanic
Speaker 1: South American. No, no, no, no, no, that's perfect, that's perfect.
Speaker 2: No, because isn't.
Speaker 1: There like it's some some is heritages the real word cultures,
Speaker 1: that's a better word there where the fear of the
Speaker 1: supernatural and stuff is a little bit is is a
Speaker 1: little bit higher and more elevated. And in a lot
Speaker 1: of Hispanic cultures that is the case.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say so because as Puerto Ricans, like
Speaker 7: I grew up in a Spanish Pentecostal church. We went
Speaker 7: like six days a week.
Speaker 2: We were very.
Speaker 7: Involved, and we don't celebrate viel so like it's not
Speaker 7: something that like was ever seen in a positive light
Speaker 7: for me, right and now anything that has to do
Speaker 7: with anything supernatural, just the fact that I do believe
Speaker 7: it is so possible. Yeah, it terrifies me.
Speaker 1: Like for example, Mike, my nephew who lived my sister's son,
Speaker 1: who lives in New York. His girlfriend, like very serious girlfriend,
Speaker 1: she's Puerto Rican and like her whole family is like
Speaker 1: like they don't, they don't play.
Speaker 4: Now they don't he's white?
Speaker 3: Or are you talking about the supernatural?
Speaker 2: Supernatural?
Speaker 4: Do they think he's a ghost and he is pale?
Speaker 8: He is?
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I didn't even celebrate Halloween growing up. We weren't allowed
Speaker 7: to celebrate or like even acknowledge the existence of Halloween.
Speaker 7: So of course now obviously it's my favorite holiday.
Speaker 1: How how can you love Halloween but be so be
Speaker 1: so scared of like the supernatural and ghosts.
Speaker 7: Because I get to dress up and be super cute
Speaker 7: and go get free candy and now I have kids
Speaker 7: and then go get candy. Like yeah, it's a ten
Speaker 7: out of ten holidays for sure. And like I said,
Speaker 7: I love flashes. The bloodier, the more gory, the better.
Speaker 7: Like I love things that are scary, but don't ever
Speaker 7: try to summon nothing in front of me. I will
Speaker 7: call the police.
Speaker 4: Right, how are the gypsies?
Speaker 2: You know what I almost want to do with you?
Speaker 3: She's not gonna do it. The I almost ever And
Speaker 3: Tyler and I were on the Ouiji board.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you guys moved it around, not the No,
Speaker 1: you know what I almost want to do with you?
Speaker 2: What was your name again? What was your name again?
Speaker 7: I'm Stephanie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Stephanie.
Speaker 1: I almost want to have you come to the studio
Speaker 1: and break out a Wuiji board in front of you,
Speaker 1: just to say.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the cops.
Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's almost like remember remember the person who was afraid
Speaker 1: of clowns and they took him to see mister Giggles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that person flipped out.
Speaker 2: I almost want to do that.
Speaker 9: Here we go, rady and honest, Hi, everybody on miss
Speaker 9: How is everybody today? I'm just gonna sit down right
Speaker 9: here and I think we're all.
Speaker 5: I'll start.
Speaker 1: I almost Stephanie, Stephanie, mm hmmm, would you would you
Speaker 1: come listen?
Speaker 2: I'll have I'll have Diane put a.
Speaker 1: Sheet over her like she's a ghost, and we'll break
Speaker 1: out a weed gie board and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be honest. When you said that, I immediately felt
Speaker 7: like I was gonna throw up. There's no doubt, Like
Speaker 7: my heart is inside of my throat.
Speaker 2: Let's try it. Let's try it.
Speaker 1: What's the worst that happens, Well, you throw up, or
Speaker 1: you pass out.
Speaker 7: Or we actually summon something that follows you forever.
Speaker 5: Stopsman I was gonna say, did that get brought up
Speaker 5: minutes ago?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: But I will say, I will say, I will say.
Speaker 1: It says the phobia pasmaphobia, as with other types, are
Speaker 1: among the most treatable mental health conditions, and they could
Speaker 1: be solved in a relatively short amount of time. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you all you need is to put your hands
Speaker 1: on the Luigi Heart with Tyler Diane Kant. She's dressed
Speaker 1: as a ghost, and I think that that would cure you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, hairline, Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Think it over. Hold on, what let me send you
Speaker 1: a shirt. Let me send you a shirt. I need
Speaker 1: advertising at the loony bin.
Speaker 4: Suret sure, sure.
Speaker 3: All right e I TM sheets, all right, hold.
Speaker 2: On, have a great Halloween boom.
Speaker 4: All right, one second, I just get under one of our.
Speaker 10: Flags, wouldn't we would say chip the muskers are chipping
Speaker 10: to the cradle.
Speaker 2: That means, get the hell out of here.
Speaker 1: Oh I want Stephanie in here in the worst way,
Speaker 1: in the worst way.
Speaker 5: Now I'm reading more about the phobia, and it says
Speaker 5: that the fear of being alone, which is autophobia, not
Speaker 5: to be confused with auto plano planophobia, the one from yesterday,
Speaker 5: which is fear of the car wash.
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, or auto autoerotic.
Speaker 5: Yes, autophobia may actually play into developing fasmophobia.
Speaker 2: I would buy that, yeah, because I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: If you are, if you're if you're at home alone
Speaker 1: or you're by yourself, like you're you're not like you
Speaker 1: were never you were you were never afraid of anything
Speaker 1: when you were having Go back to when you were
Speaker 1: a kid, if you were having a sleepover and there
Speaker 1: were like seven, eight nine of you, you were fine,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there was there was
Speaker 1: safety in numbers, there was comfort in numbers. But you're
Speaker 1: alone by yourself in the house as a kid for
Speaker 1: the first time, you start getting scared. So I get
Speaker 1: that where it would where one could kind of fold
Speaker 1: into the other.
Speaker 5: But it seems like with a caller Stephanie, Yes, she's
Speaker 5: got it fixed. That a lot of it is the
Speaker 5: idea of the supernatural, and she mentioned summoning and the
Speaker 5: beast and the number of the beasts, that kind of thing.
Speaker 5: Apparently just the idea that you maybe surveiled, that something
Speaker 5: maybe watching you, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like a ghost or like rockwell great song that is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would flip you out.
Speaker 5: The ghost connection sure, so it's not It's not really
Speaker 5: like the underworld.
Speaker 1: Or oh see, I was thinking of it as like
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, you heard something in the house,
Speaker 1: or you heard something that went bump. The other thing
Speaker 1: I would love to do is like, at about three
Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow morning, show up at Stephanie's house and start
Speaker 1: stomping on the roof.
Speaker 4: She said, she doesn't mess with.
Speaker 2: I want. I want to watch her like hyperventilate and
Speaker 2: a vomit.
Speaker 11: Rady and Honestie, Hi, everybody on where am I going?
Speaker 2: Line five?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 2: Elliot in the morning.
Speaker 6: Hi Ellie is my class?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: Who's this?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 6: This is the one from Fredericksburg. My house has a
Speaker 6: little friendly ghost. Lady. She don't know what she's talking
Speaker 6: about when it comes to ghosts.
Speaker 1: Now, why do you think you have a friendly ghost?
Speaker 1: Are you being serious?
Speaker 2: Or you set me up for a bit?
Speaker 6: No, I'm going to being serious. See things get moved
Speaker 6: around the house. We've actually had money that was sitting
Speaker 6: on a stand change. It was the same amount of money,
Speaker 6: but it changed. It went from hundreds to twenties and
Speaker 6: tens and.
Speaker 2: What dude, Yeah, dude, dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 5: Diane do that to her mom, didn't you. I hate
Speaker 5: to say that, true, I don't want her. I don't
Speaker 5: want her to hot meat. You did you steal money
Speaker 5: from your mom?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when she would she used to keep it
Speaker 3: in this stein in the in the china cabinet because
Speaker 3: she would hide when she would win big at bingo.
Speaker 3: She would hide how much money she had right from
Speaker 3: my dad. Right, so I could always go in there.
Speaker 3: And that was like like her thing, like she was like, look,
Speaker 3: trying to be like a mafia don When I'd be
Speaker 3: going back to college, she'd be like, oh, come here, Camarre,
Speaker 3: I got you, and she'd pull out this wad of
Speaker 3: cash like a drug dealer.
Speaker 2: Right, but you would take twenties and put ones in there,
Speaker 2: just so the wad wouldn't get thin.
Speaker 3: I didn't do that.
Speaker 1: That's the Jewish man's bank roll. Hey, so you have
Speaker 1: so so the money has changed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was two hundred dollars sitting on a stand
Speaker 6: for like a week. I forgot about it. My wife's
Speaker 6: went over there and said, hey, is that money still there?
Speaker 6: And I said yeah, and she went over and she goes,
Speaker 6: I put two one hundred dollars bills over there, and
Speaker 6: it was all twenties and tens and there was nobody
Speaker 6: in our house. We just me and my wife, nobody.
Speaker 6: There was nobody in the house. Neither one of us
Speaker 6: did that. So I don't love story.
Speaker 2: I love stories like that.
Speaker 6: We've had a mayonnaise jar come out of a shelf
Speaker 6: and there's no way and I I I debunked that
Speaker 6: thing that it just fell out of the cupboard.
Speaker 2: Mayonnaise doesn't just fall out of the cupboard.
Speaker 4: You've told Jackie.
Speaker 2: All Right, dude, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 2: Let me grab line three, Hi elliot in the morning.
Speaker 12: Nine.
Speaker 2: Yes, what can I do for you?
Speaker 12: My mom definitely has this. She's afraid of Luigi board.
Speaker 12: She works at the Naval Academy and some of those
Speaker 12: buildings are from like the eighteen hundred, sure, and she
Speaker 12: was like giving an event one time in the basement.
Speaker 12: No one was around. She went to the bathroom and
Speaker 12: like a little girl entered, and she was so freaked out.
Speaker 8: And the little girl was like, hi, my name's like whatever.
Speaker 12: She was paranoid, thought it was a ghost walked out
Speaker 12: of the bathroom. There's like a guy standing there.
Speaker 8: She thinks he's a.
Speaker 12: Ghost too, and he's just like, oh, how's my daughter doing?
Speaker 8: He didn't want to go into the bathroom with his
Speaker 8: daughter and there was an event going on upstairs, and
Speaker 8: he just like they were both ghosts.
Speaker 1: Hey does your mom, I mean, obviously Halloween ramps everything up.
Speaker 2: Does she like Halloween or does she hate Halloween?
Speaker 12: He's fine with like she gets really like cutey, kind
Speaker 12: of like tack.
Speaker 7: He's the core for.
Speaker 12: Outside, but like she will not do anything with spears.
Speaker 2: I gotcha, I gotcha. All right, very good, very good.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you, ma'am, thank you. Line five, Hi,
Speaker 2: Yelliah the morning. Hi, yeah, hi, who's yes?
Speaker 8: Hey, good morning. My name is Aaron. How are you doing.
Speaker 8: I'm out a woodbridge.
Speaker 2: Oh very good? Are you fasmophoric? Fasmophoric phobic? Phobic?
Speaker 8: Not fasten phobic.
Speaker 7: I'm actually a ghost hunter.
Speaker 2: Oh, like you go looking for ghosts?
Speaker 4: What he think she does?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 2: But are you like are you like the like like
Speaker 2: like legit or none of them? Are? Where you go?
Speaker 2: Absolutely leg like?
Speaker 1: Where you go like with that that little meter and
Speaker 1: you go to the house and you you try to
Speaker 1: get a reading.
Speaker 2: Like in poultry.
Speaker 4: Guys, yes, So I've.
Speaker 8: Got a K two meter, I have a thermal scope,
Speaker 8: I have voice recorders and other equipment. I think one
Speaker 8: of my favorite is eat catball like little led ball. Right,
Speaker 8: it doesn't light up, let's onding touch with it. And
Speaker 8: I've gotten a lot of really interesting rereads with those two.
Speaker 7: I recently went out and.
Speaker 8: Investigated a house out in Linden, which out I guess
Speaker 8: your Yeah, that house.
Speaker 2: Was active, Like what'd you find?
Speaker 8: Well, she was talking about having knocking on her crawl
Speaker 8: space door and a bunch of other random things happening raccoon.
Speaker 10: I did find.
Speaker 8: Some really odd misplaced thermal markings because on a thermal
Speaker 8: scuff you're not gonna see like discolorations unless there's like
Speaker 8: a taint and temperature. I found them really misplaced hot spots.
Speaker 8: This didn't really have a lot of explanation.
Speaker 2: And then we can I ask you some real quick?
Speaker 2: Can I ask you some real quick and listen?
Speaker 1: I believe you, right, I believe I love that your
Speaker 1: goes chaser hunter hunter and that and that like you're
Speaker 1: you're into your craft. But do like at a party,
Speaker 1: do people go like, oh, we made fun of Stephanie,
Speaker 1: Like what's here?
Speaker 8: Some people don't take it seriously to think I'm absolutely nuts.
Speaker 8: But it's like, hey, you know what comes with the territory.
Speaker 2: Is that your full time job?
Speaker 8: No? I can't really say what I do, but yeah,
Speaker 8: gosunny this kind of thing I do on the side.
Speaker 7: It's more for fun.
Speaker 2: Why can't you say? Why can't you say what you do?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: Like, do you work for an agency?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Not like an advertising agency?
Speaker 2: No like c I a ABI.
Speaker 8: You know, I'll just keep back to myself.
Speaker 5: But all right, so do you have a busy weekend
Speaker 5: or is this amateur hour Halloween?
Speaker 8: Well, it's going to be a busy weekend. But then
Speaker 8: I broke my risks.
Speaker 2: Hey did you see bone? Did you see bone?
Speaker 8: What did you know? We know?
Speaker 1: All right, well you know what you'll be back to.
Speaker 1: You'll be back to busting soon. So I have a
Speaker 1: great I have a great Halloween.
Speaker 2: Thank you? All right? Very good? Thank you you too,
Speaker 2: Happy Halloween.
Speaker 3: Thanks, feel good, very good.