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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Maddon Show. You can follow me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Mark MADDENX. Like, like I said, there's

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Speaker 1: almost too much to talk about. This just is really

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Speaker 1: Craig Cray with the Steelers, Like the kids say, do

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Speaker 1: they still say that?

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Speaker 2: Or was that a generation back? I lose track.

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Speaker 1: The ESPN narrative is that Tomlin is not at fault.

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan said today the Steelers would do him a

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Speaker 1: favor by firing him, because you'd get another job in

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Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah, maybe with the New York Football Giants,

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Speaker 1: where Tomlin would be further exposed as the absolute fraud

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Speaker 1: he's already revealed himself to be. But that's the ESPN narrative.

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Speaker 1: Don't blame coach t he's a great coach. And then

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Speaker 1: you've got Patrick Queen and Trey Essex skirmishing on Twitter

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Speaker 1: trade leinses at four point thirty, Essex said, Queen isn't

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Speaker 1: a Steeler linebacker in the mould of Farrier Timmins, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Which Queen isn't.

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Speaker 1: Queen fired back, calling Essex a backup and no All

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Speaker 1: Pros and no Pro.

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Speaker 2: Bowls, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but Tray Essex started for the Steelers in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Trey Essex won two rings. Yo, Patrick, Queen,

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Speaker 1: That's what counts around here, Not what you did at

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Speaker 1: Baltimore when you were rogue Coontsmiths Caddie, when you wrote

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Speaker 1: his back to make it second team All Pro. What

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Speaker 1: counts around here, or rather what used to con around here,

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Speaker 1: is winning Super Bowls. I was gonna say Queen isn't

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Speaker 1: a Steeler, but actually he's very typical of the current Steelers.

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Speaker 1: He's fragile and petty and a deucebag. Him firing back

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Speaker 1: at Trey Aessex on Twitter after they got killed by

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Speaker 1: Buffalo is just indicative of the flawed culture with these

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Speaker 2: Uh, we got some Penguins developments.

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Speaker 1: They caught up Rutger McGroarty in Boco Imama for tonight's

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Speaker 1: game at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Boco of course a tough guy. That kind of makes sense.

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Speaker 1: What makes even more sense is the third line going

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Speaker 1: to be the kid line of McGroarty kindle a coivenin.

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Speaker 1: I seem to recall suggesting that some weeks ago, so

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Speaker 1: it was said, so it will come to pass. Joining

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Speaker 1: me now is Tommy Radio Tom They booed renegade, which

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Speaker 1: I get because uugh sticks.

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Speaker 2: But wow, that felt like rock bottom.

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Speaker 3: It really did. And I don't even know why you

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Speaker 3: would play renegade, Like you got to read the room

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Speaker 3: a little bit there, right, and just not go with

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Speaker 3: the renegade thing. It kind of is indicative of the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: just you know, we're going through the motions here, right, like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: this is just what we do here. Everybody enjoys a

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Speaker 3: good time out of the ball game, and we play

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Speaker 3: renegade because that's the marquimo.

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Speaker 1: But they didn't seem to be enjoying it. And they

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Speaker 1: were chanting fire Tomlin as well. That scoop and score

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Speaker 1: for Buffalo to begin the second half. You could see

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Speaker 1: the life rush out of the Steelers, probably the stadium too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just don't know how they are so

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Speaker 3: easily pushed to the edge and then pushed over the

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Speaker 3: edge of you. As you've noted, they're so weak. There's

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Speaker 3: no bounce back with them. If one thing goes wrong,

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Speaker 3: they let the second thing go wrong, and the third

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Speaker 3: thing go wrong, and the fourth thing go wrong. With

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Speaker 3: minimal resistance this year, and Mike Tomlin has faded in

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Speaker 3: years past. It's not a new thing this year as

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Speaker 3: far as his staleness and his effectiveness as a head coach.

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Speaker 3: But as you said, rock Bottom, it's never felt this

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Speaker 3: bad where it's just like one thing goes wrong and

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Speaker 3: it's over already.

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Speaker 1: In the weird one is there's six and six and

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Speaker 1: still tyr. But no, their collapse is easy to explain.

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Speaker 1: Like the great Terry Funklin said, there are a bunch

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Speaker 1: of heartless jackasses, that's what they are. Uh, should Rogers

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Speaker 1: be playing? I think that's a legitimate debate. I think

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Speaker 1: he's too limited and skittish with that broken wrist. Now

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Speaker 1: will that improve a lot in a week?

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Speaker 2: I do not know.

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Speaker 1: There's talk he may be able to take snaps under

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was an bold face lie on Friday, right

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Speaker 3: when Mike Tomlin said that he could take snaps under center,

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Speaker 3: Remember that when he talked to the media, But we

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Speaker 3: couldn't get anybody from the media to say they saw

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Speaker 3: an actual snap under center. Well, fast forward to the

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Speaker 3: game and he very clearly could not do it. Well,

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Speaker 3: that's shocking Tomlin lie to the media. That is really

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Speaker 3: maybe the main reason why I wouldn't have played Rogers

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Speaker 3: if you can't get under center, if you're not effective

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Speaker 1: You know, it is funny, except it's sad. It's very

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Speaker 1: clear that Tomlin wants no part of committing to Rudolph,

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Speaker 1: no matter how temporary or how brief, because, like you know,

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Speaker 1: he got in there through one pick right back out. Okay,

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Speaker 3: But still at the same time, and I I agree

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Speaker 3: Mason is doing himself no favors there. I mean, what

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Speaker 3: a terrible throw. I mean, come on, man.

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Speaker 2: He played no worse than Rogers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he had one pass, he threw an interception.

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Speaker 2: He still played.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: Rodgers was awful. I agree they're both bad. I think

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Speaker 3: they're both bad quarterbacks right now.

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Speaker 1: I take the only logical thing to do is to

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Speaker 1: play Will Howard. That's the logical answer. You don't think

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Speaker 1: that might not happen. I'm aware that it very well

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Speaker 1: played Duc in twenty nineteen over Rudolph. He could play

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it can't happen, but it's not

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Speaker 3: a logical move. But I also think that Rudolph isn't

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Speaker 3: to choose who to start in Baltimore, I'd still start

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Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph. I don't think he gives you that greade

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Speaker 3: of a chance. I don't think they'll let him give

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Speaker 3: you that great of a chance. But that's probably where

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Speaker 1: I'd rather start Rudolph one hundred percent than Rodgers or

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Speaker 1: whatever percent he is. And I think that got born

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Speaker 1: out yesterday. Like you said, Rudolph only through the one

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Speaker 1: pass was awful, blah blah blah. But Rogers just can't

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Speaker 1: play like he is, like with that injury.

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Speaker 3: Now he could a broken nose too, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's officially a broken nose, but Bosa just.

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Speaker 1: Destroyed about How about when he was sitting on the sidelines,

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Speaker 1: like when the offense was off the field, which was

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Speaker 2: Minutes, he just looked beat, didn't.

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Speaker 3: He literally and figurative.

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Speaker 1: He looked like he looked like a kid waiting for

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Speaker 1: the bus in the snow, and he didn't know that

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Speaker 3: That's a great analogy. That was the hardest he's been

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Speaker 3: hit this year, right, Bosa from that blind side, And

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Speaker 3: I think so by the way, Mason McCormick, I mean,

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Speaker 3: good lord, buddy, what a terrible effort that was. Bosa

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Speaker 3: kind of watching as Bosa crunches his quarterback into the ground.

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Speaker 3: But I think that was kind of an eye opening

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Speaker 3: moment for Rogers, like, oh, this really hurts.

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Speaker 2: Why couldn't the Steelers defense stop the run.

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Speaker 1: Cook is a good back, but the backup Bulls are

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Speaker 1: rushed for sixty two yards and both their starting tackles

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Speaker 3: I don't like to just pin it on Derek Harmon

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Speaker 3: being out, but I definitely think that that had an

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Speaker 3: eat up some of the blocks.

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Speaker 2: I think it took away any fear factor in running

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Speaker 3: Just that the guards in the interior of the Bills

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Speaker 3: We're able to get onto Peyton Wilson. We're able to

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Speaker 3: get on to Patrick Queen before Queen got hurt and

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Speaker 3: left the game. And those guys just can't get off

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Speaker 3: blocks when it's linemen. They're just not good at it.

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Speaker 3: As far as you know, shedding a block and then

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Speaker 3: pursuing a tackle is not Wilson's strength. It's not Queen strength.

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Speaker 3: Harrison's okay at it, but I mean still, it's a

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Speaker 3: lineman on a linebacker. There was just no resistance up front.

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Speaker 3: You get into that second level as an offensive line,

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Speaker 3: and it's easy Pickens.

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Speaker 1: I think they should have not traded George Pickens. You

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been used right here. I know right I

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Speaker 1: haven't mentioned that. That's Tom off from Martin Man. We

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Speaker 1: come back more Steeler angst, and I want your Steeler

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Speaker 1: ranks when we do calls on the fifteens. The New

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Speaker 1: York Times ran a little brief in the notes Collu

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic about calls on the fifteens.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: They said, this segment is so fetch nine X. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about the kid line tonight, Tom Cyven and McGroarty

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Speaker 1: and Kindle. I'n't been this excited since then. Was that

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Speaker 1: never stopped, Never stopping the pop Star movie? Or was

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Speaker 1: it Kid Contact? Who are the three guys the Style Boys?

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Speaker 1: The Style Boys, Yeah, remember their names off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head. But when they reunited, that was the

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Speaker 1: last time you were this excited. The DJ was Kid

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Speaker 1: Contact when they.

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Speaker 3: Went to that farm and finally got over all their

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Speaker 3: problems because Kid Contact was growing weed on the farm.

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Speaker 2: Right No, No, kid no? The other that.

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Speaker 3: Is the other guy, right, smart one, The smart one

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Speaker 1: It's gonna drive me crazy. What the Style Boys' names are?

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Speaker 3: Connor for reel?

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Speaker 2: Is the o Connor?

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Speaker 1: It was Kid Connor, Kid Connor, kid Contact, kid.

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Speaker 3: Brain, kid Brain, Yeah brain, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm a style boy for life, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I forgot that he was Kid Connor and then he

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Speaker 3: evolved into Connor for real when he went solo. People

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Speaker 3: don't watch that movie like they should. So underrated.

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Speaker 1: It's a new generation's spinal tap, not as good, right,

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Speaker 1: But there was so much truth in there. There was

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Speaker 1: too much truth in that Steeler game yesterday. The defense pathetic,

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Speaker 1: the offense pathetic, The possession was forty two minutes to

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Speaker 1: eighteen in favor of of Buffalo Buffalo, Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: almost seems impossible. One hundred and sixty six yards of

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Speaker 1: total offense for the Steelers. The offense has zero identity.

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith incompetent. Uh, nothing to hang your hat on.

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Speaker 1: They don't do anything right. Fifty eight yards rushing, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eight yards passing, and Rogers deserves credit.

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Speaker 2: For playing, but he sucked too.

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Speaker 1: Friar Mouth no targets, John u two targets, Austin two targets,

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Speaker 1: Roman Wilson one target. Did you see Roman Wilson want

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Speaker 1: to get out of the locker room so quick he

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Speaker 1: didn't even take off his EyeBlack.

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Speaker 3: I think that he is a better player than we are.

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Speaker 2: Let on top.

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Speaker 1: I think he's their number two receiver in terms of

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Speaker 1: calate wise and opportunity should be getting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's hiding right now.

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Speaker 2: They decided they don't like him.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason. He's a third round pick. You picked him.

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Speaker 1: That happened was when did they decide they don't like

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Speaker 3: It's happens because they don't know what they're doing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's called eight or nine out of ten times.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't find it. I know they were under like a

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: And Cam's winding too about how well use different rules

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Speaker 1: That's right, Cam, because nobody ever paid one dollar to

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, they were kids at that stadium yesterday who were

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like I get to see the MVP up close. Had kids,

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Speaker 3: they would have been there to watch Josh Allen in

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Speaker 3: Kids, absolutely, Mark, So it sounds are trying to make

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Speaker 3: It was really really pathetic to see Cam wys TJ

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Speaker 3: And have you ever really seen a fall from grace

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Speaker 1: Think that his approval rating at one point was like

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Speaker 3: I agree. And he was going to set himself up

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Speaker 3: to get a ton of excuses made for him, right, like, hey,

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Speaker 3: It was everybody else that was letting him down, not

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Speaker 3: I think you wear it, just like what's going to

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Speaker 3: What should you make the queen skirmish with Trey Essex.

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty pathetic for Queen to be saying that,

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Speaker 3: Trey with individual accolades, right like all pros, Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 2: He was surprised he didn't compare paychecks.

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Speaker 3: Right, And then Trey took the high road to came

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Speaker 3: take it. But Trey, you got two rings on your finger.

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Speaker 3: You're a team player man. So well, those Steelers knew

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Speaker 1: I couldn't stand hinz War, I couldn't stand James Harrison.

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Speaker 1: But I never had any doubt the team and winning

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. I mean the list goes on and

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Speaker 2: Weren't you?

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Speaker 3: You were cheering for Nick Harper at one point, weren't

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Speaker 2: I was running, Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was in a post game bootleg postgame show for

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Speaker 1: Harper picked up the ball. I was running through the bar,

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Speaker 3: Were cheering on a horse that you had a beat

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Speaker 1: But it was okay because because Ben made the tackle thereby,

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Speaker 3: But you're right, all of those guys are just real

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Speaker 3: and there's just too many people that look like it's

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Speaker 4: On tea.

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Speaker 1: Now you're six and six, so is Baltimore. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: and win next Sunday, December seventh Day, will live an

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Speaker 1: If they win, the usual suspects will start saying, well,

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Speaker 1: you know this AFC, nobody's that good. They could beat anybody.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy that they're both six and six. When

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Speaker 3: So I'm happy that that came true. It looks like

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Speaker 3: I predict that you can take it. Just take it.

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Speaker 3: It was on this show. It's kind of like your

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Speaker 3: have a chance to beat the Ravens. I don't think

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Speaker 3: the Ravens are that good. But here I go again,

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Speaker 3: talking like we did about the Bills last week, right,

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Speaker 3: and then they got flattened by the Buffalo Bills, and

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Speaker 3: that game was at home. This one's in Baltimore. They're

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Speaker 3: just gonna run with Derrick Henry a billion times, right,

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you after what you just saw James Cook

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Speaker 3: We have to start using the words washed up. Right,

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Speaker 3: he might finish with less than ten sacks this year.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's not washed up. That's merely you know, average.

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Speaker 3: From what he is. Though, you become washed up by

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Speaker 1: I compared to what he's getting paid, because he's the

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Speaker 1: and you're not better. And then you look at Garrett,

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Speaker 1: wh's ascending. He's having his best year of his career.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna win Defensive Player of the Year on one

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Speaker 1: hard to do. He's gonna blow by the sack record

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Speaker 1: better player. While Watt looks like he's ending his career,

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Speaker 1: he's approaching his finish line. Three best defensive players ever, mean,

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Speaker 1: Joe Green won, Miles Garrett two, LeVar Arrington and he

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Speaker 1: was at North Hills High School.

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Speaker 2: Badass.

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Speaker 3: He's pretty badass and washing anthro Penn State too.

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Speaker 2: He was awesome. LeVar Leap.

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Speaker 3: You got to put Lawrence Taylor in there too though, right.

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Speaker 2: Way?

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Speaker 2: I mean, and LeVar didn't do coke. Oh that's it. No,

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Speaker 3: Everybody, did against everybody. H He blocked a field against Pitt, saw.

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Speaker 1: He picked it up in the end zone, ran one

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Speaker 2: House. Yeah, tremendous.

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Speaker 3: Did he return kicks like I see somebody that he

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Speaker 1: Back Uh, Tom, a bad topic for you very quickly

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Speaker 1: pick up murdered by Miami Akroscher thirty one seven.

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Speaker 2: Were you there? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was there.

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Speaker 1: Uh tough weekend that Akroasuer. Pitt finishes eight and four.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this basically the same crappy season Pitt always has?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is. I think eight and four is a

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Speaker 2: That's my point.

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Speaker 1: Every one of their losses was to some degree a disaster. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you lost the crappy West Virginia. You blew a big

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Speaker 1: lead at Louisville. Yep, you got killed by Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: What was the crowd like on Saturday?

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Speaker 3: It was actually dead. Not that much of a turnout,

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Speaker 3: to be honest with you, like percentage m probably like

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Speaker 3: sixty percent of that stadium full. The lower bowl was

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Speaker 3: still showing some spottiness on the season. The seat think

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Speaker 3: that was the students didn't turn out cold.

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Speaker 1: What a great college football time, now, Einschul flashback into

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Speaker 1: his pan down the stretch. He might not be the

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Speaker 1: new Marino Tom, he might be the new hole Steam.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I hate that people would say he's the

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Speaker 3: new Marino. I still think he's pretty good. I think

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Speaker 3: he's going to be better than Holstein.

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Speaker 2: We oh, we thought Holstein was great though.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but I think Heinschel is gonna be good. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he'll be good at Pitt though. I think

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Speaker 3: another team's gonna swoop in and take him. I think

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Speaker 3: Pitt's offensive line also sold him out against some good

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Speaker 3: teams at the end of the year. He had no

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Speaker 3: time against teams like teams like Notre Dame in Miami

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Speaker 3: show just how big a gap is, especially in the trenches,

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Speaker 3: like Miami did whatever they wanted up front at that

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Speaker 3: defensive one.

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Speaker 2: College football blows I'm looking at right now.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Kiffin thing later, but

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Speaker 1: that sums up everything that just sucks about college football. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Penguins at the Flyers tonight. You can come watch the

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Speaker 1: game with me at Pittsburgh Brewing Company. Right off through

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Speaker 2: Be doing it.

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Speaker 1: I just have collected a bunch of bobbleheads over the

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Speaker 2: So join me tonight.

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Speaker 3: To nine the X TIS this season, It's.

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Speaker 1: X Time for some hockey talk. Not a great weekend

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Speaker 1: for the Penguins. They played horrific in every period but

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Speaker 1: the third period of Columbus. They did get a win

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Speaker 1: in that game, in overtime La Tang with the goal.

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Speaker 1: Sid scored a couple. Sid scored again on Saturday at

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Speaker 1: home in Toronto killed the Penguins. Chilloff's Terriblin goal against

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Speaker 1: Toronto got pulled. Peng was early competitive, but tonight they're

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Speaker 1: at the old enemy at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: England's are two points behind the Flyers.

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Speaker 1: Flyers have won their last three and have certainly rallied

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Speaker 1: to be a bit better under Tockett as coach. I

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Speaker 1: still think the Penmans have a better roster and a

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Speaker 1: better future, but we'll see what happens tonight. Come watch

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Speaker 1: the game with me at Pittsburgh. Grooen Company in Creighton

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Speaker 1: just off through twenty eight, the biggest big screen TV

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Speaker 1: in town. Tom we got news at Imama and Rutger

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Speaker 1: McGorty got called up. We got the kid Line, which

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Speaker 1: I suggested weeks ago be put together of Kendall Center

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Speaker 1: and Cloyvenin and McGroarty. So I'm curious to see how

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Speaker 1: those three play together. I think it's good to give

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Speaker 1: kids that platform to kind of grow together and kind

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Speaker 1: kind of bond together too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to see the kid line play. I'm

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Speaker 3: excited that Bocas in this game too, because I like

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Speaker 3: a little bit of that edge against the Flyers, connect

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Speaker 3: me to scumbags, egress to scumbag. I want to see him,

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Speaker 3: you know, get heavy against those two guys in particular. So,

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Speaker 3: but the kid line in particular, I think is the

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Speaker 3: headline for this game. And Kindall and mcgrorty need to

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Speaker 3: get coyven In going because coyn In has really been

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Speaker 3: a struggle to start this season. He's got to find

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Speaker 3: the back of the net a few times, find something terribly.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think he can score.

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Speaker 3: He's gotta score, though, that's his no question, no question.

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Speaker 3: So I hope that maybe playing with McGroarty, playing with Kendall,

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Speaker 3: getting some consistency with line mates will start to spark

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Speaker 3: some scoring from coven In.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to see mus come up with something

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Speaker 1: in terms of lineup and tactics that feature kids, because

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Speaker 1: he's been drifting away from that a bit. It kind

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Speaker 1: of got me a bit a bit flustered when he

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Speaker 1: called up Bros. And scratched him two out of three

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Speaker 1: games before sending him back. That's very Sullivan esk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is. But I'm also glad that he sent

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Speaker 3: Hyden down to. You know, it didn't just keep hiding

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Speaker 3: up here to be a roster spot veteran respect with him.

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Speaker 3: They just need to get healthy too, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: I mean that the problem without Raquel and the top

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Speaker 3: six just isn't as.

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Speaker 2: What that is you and Brazo out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those guys, they shouldn't kill your lineup, but

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Speaker 1: you can't have Kevin Hayes on Sid's line. Options are limited,

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Speaker 1: so uh, their their depth is really revealed.

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Speaker 2: Lack of depth when even a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Guys like that are hurt, well, especially their lack of

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Speaker 3: someone who can slide in on Sid's line if a

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Speaker 3: Rostoa Raquel goes down. I mean, there's just no one

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Speaker 3: that's been able to fill that role. And they've tried everybody.

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Speaker 3: They've tried doers, they tried Hollander for a little bit,

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Speaker 3: Coyvenden wasn't able to make it happen. Didn't they even

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Speaker 3: sprinkle Malkin up there for a second or two for

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Speaker 3: a couple of shifts there. So they've been trying every.

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Speaker 1: Sh and together never never works, never never meshes five

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Speaker 1: on five. And that used to be something Bosma would

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Speaker 1: try in the third period all the time, and it

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Speaker 1: just never worked and he kept trying it.

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Speaker 3: And a credit to Sid for, you know, not being

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Speaker 3: able to have consistency with one of his wings all

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Speaker 3: year and he's just plugging along. Mark sixteen goals, scoring

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Speaker 3: a ton of points.

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Speaker 1: Touch right now. The goals he scored over the weekend

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Speaker 1: just impeccable.

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Speaker 3: The one in Columbus, I mean, the goaltender for Columbus

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Speaker 3: was just like, I don't even know what I was

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Speaker 3: supposed to do on that play when he just let

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Speaker 3: it bank off the wall to him into the Columbus zone.

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Speaker 2: Findically just kind of just kind of chipped it.

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Speaker 3: Insane and just to have the knowledge to let that

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Speaker 3: puck go to the boards to his next level now.

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Speaker 1: Shiloves was terrible against Toronto after Jari had played two

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Speaker 1: straight games in a row. Uh, Jari's gonna play tonight.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we're kind of working toward Jari being

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Speaker 1: the number one goalie and ending the goalie rotation.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to ask you that she loss

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Speaker 3: has had a couple of really rough performances in a row.

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Speaker 3: You play Monday, Thursday and Sunday this week, so there's

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Speaker 3: some nice spacing between your games. Do you just give

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Speaker 3: Jarry the week? I think I would. I would just

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Speaker 3: give him these next three games in a row, and see.

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Speaker 2: How I would not give him the week. I would

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Speaker 2: probably start him two of the three.

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Speaker 3: Start him Monday Sunday, give she Lofts one shot on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: I would make it after jar See what happens tonight.

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Speaker 2: You see how he plays tonight against Philaelhia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if he plays great tonight, you know, hold him

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Speaker 3: to one goal, maybe even shuts them out. Then I

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Speaker 3: think you just give him the net in Tampa on

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Speaker 3: Thursday too, and see where you go from there.

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Speaker 1: Game tonight's a little bit scary. Philadelphia's won three straight

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Speaker 1: all on the road. Just won five to three at

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Speaker 1: New Jersey on Saturdy, New Jersey, you know, highly regarded

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Speaker 1: Ziegris is their leading score after coming from Anaheim and

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Speaker 1: flat ar and goal. He's getting to start tonight. He's

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Speaker 1: done well after coming from Calgary, and I knew with

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Speaker 1: Rick tockin coaching, new guys would stand out because new

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Speaker 1: guys wouldn't get a chance talk never has preconceived notions.

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Speaker 3: He's a great coach, so it's not surprising to see.

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Speaker 3: The Flyers are playing a lot better this year. Such

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Speaker 3: a massive game though for the Penguins. So two points

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Speaker 3: back are the Flyers and the standings. You are in

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Speaker 3: that second wild card spot right now, but you're hanging

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Speaker 3: on only by regulation wins over the Islanders. You have

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Speaker 3: the same amount of points as them. Everything is just

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Speaker 3: so condensed here, Mark, I mean, they're gonna go into

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Speaker 3: the last week of the season probably a point out

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Speaker 3: or a point in the playoffs. Don't you think it's

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Speaker 3: gonna come down to that this week? So get a

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Speaker 3: win tonight against the Flyers. Always good to do that.

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Speaker 3: But also you're competing with them for a top spot

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Speaker 3: in the metro, a top spot in the East.

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Speaker 2: I got Covid in scoring tonight. He needs to he.

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Speaker 3: Needs to find because of the kid line. You think

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Speaker 3: he find You think it'll be in five on five.

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Speaker 2: I just thinking, guy that good can't cook forever with us?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this will preempt the try not preempted

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Speaker 1: old kind of. It's a trifecta before the trifecta.

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Speaker 3: Tom Wow.

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Speaker 1: Top three moments all time highlights between the Penguins and Flyers.

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Speaker 1: Number three is two thousand nine on next help but

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Speaker 1: shlush the Flyers and the Penguins eliminated them for second

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Speaker 1: straight year. Number two is beating them at Philadelphia nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty nine, the end the fifteen year losing streak at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Number one is eliminating them in eight. It was the

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Speaker 1: handshake on I waited my whole life for the first

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Speaker 1: elimination of the old enemy. And some people might say, well,

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Speaker 1: why not Marios five goals and three assists in that

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Speaker 1: ten eight went over the Fires in eighty nine playoffs. Well,

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Speaker 1: because we lost the series. Yeah, okay, anything related to

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Speaker 1: going through the pass. Looking what we've done against the

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Speaker 1: Flyers has to be related to winning.

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Speaker 3: No notes on that. I'll throw a couple honorable mentions

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Speaker 3: in there. When Sid scored his rookie year in Philadelphia, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: with no teeth, fantastic moment. And then there's also one

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Speaker 3: I don't remember the specific game, but do you remember

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Speaker 3: when Malkin got dumped by some Flyers in his own

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Speaker 3: zone and he was just so mad. Then the puck

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Speaker 3: trickled back to him when he was behind the plane.

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Speaker 1: He just rips the splash, but he was tired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was gassed. Yeah, he just wind up and blasted.

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 1: And how many times he's done this? But usually if

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Speaker 1: you get the number one store on the road, you

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Speaker 1: don't bother taking a lap. Sid does when he's number one,

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Speaker 1: start Hilla he's in Philly. Yeah, he waits and goes

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Speaker 1: out there, which I think is just so sit He

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Speaker 1: always says he does n eate the Flyers, but he does.

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Speaker 2: He's one of us. One oh five nine The X.

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Speaker 1: Tonights the Pen's face off against the Flyers.

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Speaker 4: taper off tomorrow. Look for a high in the low thirties.

655
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: Do you own a small business, Tom?

656
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: What did you make of the atmosphere at Aquashore yesterday?

657
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: The fire Tom on chance, the booing of Rende Gade

658
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: like I said, it was surreal. It came across on TV,

659
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: even though that's tough for the atmosphere to permeate a

660
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: network broadcast, and it makes me wonder.

661
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: Let's say this season finishes like it.

662
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: Is right now, where they're like nine and eight eight nine,

663
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: don't win a playoff game and just look as inept

664
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: again in games.

665
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: As they did yesterday. What's the crowd going to be

666
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: like at the draft of April.

667
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: I think that's a great question.

668
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: They could turn on the Steelers.

669
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: You could be hearing a bunch of fire Tomlin chants

670
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: in the middle of the first round.

671
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: Sell the team.

672
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: You think it would go that far?

673
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: Yep.

674
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: I think it absolutely could go that far, and it

675
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: would be an embarrassment that the Runies do not want

676
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: to have because this is a big thing for them,

677
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: the draft, Like this is their baby now moving forward.

678
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 3: They got their baby out of the way this year

679
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: with the Dublin game. Now they move to their next baby,

680
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: which is their fun draft here in Pittsburgh.

681
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: I want to encourage all the people out there, all

682
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: you stealer maniacs, if you want what's best for the franchise,

683
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: if you want what's best for the city, if you

684
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: want what's best for the logo, go.

685
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: To the draft and ruin it. Ruin the draft.

686
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: I don't think you have to encourage them either. I

687
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: think I think that's what's gonna happen, and that's what's

688
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: going to keep happening at Akroser Stadium when you see

689
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: this now and.

690
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Then for that not to happen, I don't even think

691
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: that's crossed Art's mind, although maybe after yesterday it has

692
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: that that fans could could ruin the draft.

693
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: They'd have to win the division and win a playoff game,

694
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: right for it to turn so drastically the direction that

695
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: it's currently heading in.

696
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna get a wild card, by

697
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: the way, to you, and that's done. Win the division

698
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: or nothing.

699
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's done. I mean I think that goes for

700
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: Baltimore too. I think so. The three wild cards right

701
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: now are eight and four. Colts are eight and four,

702
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: Bills are eight and four Chargers eight and four. Chargers

703
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: and Bills have tie breakers over the Steelers. Yeah, wild

704
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: card's dead and gone, and in fact I was I'm

705
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: looking at it right now. There's a team outside of

706
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: the wild card spot. Houston is the eighth seed. They're

707
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: a game in front of you right now, record wise,

708
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's done for you. Gotta win the North.

709
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: I think Houston's going to catch Indy, don't you.

710
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: Jacksonville already caught Indy. Jacksonville's in first place in the

711
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: division right now. But I think Houston's the best team

712
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: in the South. Yes, I think they might be the

713
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: best team in the conference. There's a chance they could

714
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: go to the super Bowl. That defense is that good.

715
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: As Stroud can come back and play okay, which he

716
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: did against Indy. He was okay against Indy.

717
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: We overreacted to Danny Dimes. He's New York Danny again.

718
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think the Steelers kind of did a little

719
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: thing of exposing there for the Colts, like, hey, you

720
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: cut Jonathan Taylor out, there's really nothing else they can

721
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: do to you. Don't get me wrong, it's tough to

722
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: cut Jonathan Taylor out of the equation. He's great. But

723
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: if you can accomplish it, like you said, Danny Dimes

724
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: is still Danny Dimes. That seems to be what most

725
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: teams are doing moving forward.

726
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: That said, I think at the very worst he's serviceable.

727
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they did wrong by bringing him in.

728
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: I still think they might probably make the playoffs, Like

729
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: I still think that they're a wild card team. But

730
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm getting a little nervous fun with the car.

731
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: It's weird, though, because we all thought the AFC North

732
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: would be this superior division, and to turn out the

733
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: AFC South, which always sucks, is much better.

734
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: What do we got for the trifectam?

735
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: For today's trifecta, Mark, I have three kind of faux

736
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: moves the Steelers are gonna make this offseason to give

737
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: the illusion that they're making change, but it really isn't

738
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: gonna lead to anything because Mike Tomlin's still gonna be here.

739
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Number three for me, They're gonna either trade high Smith

740
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: or Friarmouth. They're gonna have a big, splashy move like that,

741
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 3: get out from one of those contracts and say hey,

742
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: we're gonna have some change that way with some personnel

743
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: in those vein, in that vein. I think they're gonna

744
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: change quarterbacks. I don't think Rogers is gonna be back.

745
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't think he is. He might become a bit.

746
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: Of a scapegoat down the stretch here.

747
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: Chris Canny from ESPN later.

748
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: Starting to creep in a little bit as far as

749
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: this is Rogers.

750
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: Fault, because if you blame Rodgers and saw Tomlin's.

751
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: Fault exactly, So, I think there's.

752
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: A certain dynamic there that dare not speak its name.

753
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: So they'll turn the page there, get some freshness with

754
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: the quarterback. Maybe it's Will Howard, maybe it's someone they

755
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: draft this year. But the obvious number one on this

756
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: trifecta is firing Tarrell Austin. I mean that is obviously coming.

757
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: It won't happen in the middle of the season because

758
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: then Tom would have to use play calling duties and

759
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: that would really over expose him for that. The defense

760
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: is mine and all as shortcomings, but this will be

761
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: the big move quote unquote that they make in the

762
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: offseason is firing Ta.

763
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

764
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: I think that's all true. But here's here's my one disclaim.

765
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: I think I think the first two are more likely

766
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: the fire Tarrell Austin one. Him and Tom Win are buddies.

767
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Tommy, I think Toma can hire

768
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: another body to you know, be a good.

769
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: Well in the coordinators, like I rode on my trip

770
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Calm Today trip live dot com. Uh, the coordinator traditionally

771
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: the franchise is sacrificial lambs.

772
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, another prediction. If they do fire Terrell Austin,

773
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: you can't put it past them for hiring somebody with

774
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: some Pittsburgh ties on that defense. Right for the defensive coordinator.

775
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, but there's somebody out there that's from

776
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh or at least had a dad from Pittsburgh or

777
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: something like that. That's just always a classic move they

778
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: do in the off season, too, is they bring someone

779
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: locally in.

780
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: Are trees some making Patrick Queen's boss.

781
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Now there's something Trey would be a better defensive coordinator

782
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: than Tara Austin. I'm saying that right now on record.

783
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: I have no reason to say it, but I'm going to.

784
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 3: I like, Trey should have kept Brian Flores. Oh, Brian

785
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: Flores should be a head coach somewhere. Probably you think

786
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 3: you'd ever get a chance to again.

787
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: Now you're talking, how about here?

788
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: Sign me up. I hate this narrative that is starting

789
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: to pick up t tow where people are like, well,

790
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 3: who you're gonna get if you get rid of Mike Tomlin,

791
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: You're risking having worse than nine to eight. This purgatory

792
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: that they're in right now is awful and there's no

793
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: way out of it.

794
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.

795
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: Whenever people say that to me, I generally go right

796
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: back to ground zero for my personal level of care.

797
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: Which is, do whatever the frig you want. I don't

798
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: care what you do. This ain't my team, it'sure team.

799
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: But if you can't see the forest for the trees,

800
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. If you can't

801
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: see that Mike Tomlin is like one hundred and one

802
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: percent responsible for the extremens showed that team's become again.

803
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you.

804
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: You just have no out anymore, Like there's there's no

805
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: out to be like, well, he should do this. It's

806
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: not his fault here. Everything is just pointing towards him.

807
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you've made so many changes at coordinators, You've

808
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: changed the quarterback out every year. It seems for the

809
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: past three or four years. Nothing changes. You go nine

810
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: to eight and ten and seven, and the same things

811
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: happen throughout the year. The defense is underachieving. They go

812
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: through these two three game losing streaks where they just

813
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: look completely crappy with no heart. It's just the same

814
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: movie over and over again. It's like I Got You,

815
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: Babe plays every time we wake up in the morning,

816
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: Mark groundhog Day.

817
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: They say, I Love won't pay the rent before it's earned. Armne,

818
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: he's always spent. I know we ain't got a lot,

819
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: but at least I'm sure of all the things we've got.

820
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: It ain't defense, it ain't offense.

821
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 3: One oh five nine The x Wsdxfmittsburg