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Speaker 1: Let's say good morning now to the media manager for

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Speaker 1: Friends of Big Bear Valley, Jenny was Sor Good morning, Jenny.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: So it's an exciting time in the nest. We're officially

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Speaker 1: on PIP watch for egg number one. For those who

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Speaker 1: don't know, Jenny, can you tell us what that means?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So pip is the initial hole or crack that

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Speaker 2: the chick makes when it's working its way through the

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Speaker 2: shell during the hatching process. So that's what we're looking for.

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Speaker 2: So we are on pip watch.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and we hit pitpwatch yesterday because it was day

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Speaker 1: number thirty five and that's what the average incubation is.

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Speaker 1: So there's two eggs though, so when do we hit

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Speaker 1: pitp watch for the next.

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Speaker 2: Day, Friday? So both the eggs were laid three days apart,

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Speaker 2: but Jackie in Shadow practiced some delayed incubation, so we're

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Speaker 2: not exactly sure when either we'll hatch. But the reason

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Speaker 2: they do that is so that they do hatch closer together,

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Speaker 2: and we're very excited and hopeful that they will. That

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Speaker 2: chicks will will indeed hatch this year.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And Jenny tell us what delayed incubation is.

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Speaker 2: Well, they will stand aside from the egg, or we'll

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Speaker 2: leave the nest alone for a few minutes so that

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Speaker 2: it's in a suspended development, so that they can hatch

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Speaker 2: closer together, so that the chicks are closer in size

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Speaker 2: when they're young.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, that was That was a thing. Last year. We

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Speaker 1: had three and there was one that was markedly bigger,

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Speaker 1: and then that third chick was markedly smaller than the

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Speaker 1: other ones.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and if Jackie in Shadow hadn't done any delayed incubation,

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Speaker 2: that difference would have been much more extreme.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, just because we have eggs, it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: we're going to get eaglets. This is the part I hate.

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Speaker 1: How likely is it that the eggs are going to hatch?

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Speaker 2: Well, the eggs have a fifty percent chance of hatching,

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Speaker 2: and that's true with all bald eagle eggs. So all

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Speaker 2: we can do is be positive and watch nature unfold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do we know why the hatching rate is so low?

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Speaker 2: Well, it has to do with DDT and the egg

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Speaker 2: shells being thinned. Overall, eagles have been making a comeback

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Speaker 2: and things have been getting a lot better for them.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so the shells were certainly challenged because of that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now we're watching for the pip. Are there

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Speaker 1: any signs that Jackie and Shadow might give us that

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Speaker 1: show that they think it's hatching time?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they could hear or feel potentially the chicks as

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Speaker 2: they're moving around working their way through, and so we

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Speaker 2: might see them either be a little restless or stand

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Speaker 2: up and maybe even look at the egg or put

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Speaker 2: their heads close to the egg trying to hear.

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Speaker 1: Okay, have we seen that yet?

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Speaker 2: No, we have not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll be watching for it. And then once

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Speaker 1: they start hatching, it's a couple of days before they're

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Speaker 1: fully out right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's an arduous process for the little chick. So

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Speaker 2: they have an inner layer that they have to work

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Speaker 2: through as well as that external shell, and they have

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Speaker 2: this little thing called an egg tooth that helps them

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Speaker 2: push through. But they have to take a lot of

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Speaker 2: breaks in between and rest and so it's a difficult process.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And then Jackie in Shadow don't help them, do they?

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have to do it on their own.

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Speaker 2: They're supposed to not help them, although Shadow.

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Speaker 1: Has in the ah he's a real breaker. Okay. This

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Speaker 1: is such an and this is a that's an exciting time.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine it's a little bit bittersweet because our

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Speaker 1: Sandy Steers, who was there to help get the big

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Speaker 1: Beer Bald Eagle cam installed and watched the Eagles for years,

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Speaker 1: passed away a couple months ago and won't be here.

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Speaker 1: So it's got to be a little bit tough for

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Speaker 1: everybody at Friends of Big Bear Valley.

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Speaker 2: It's bittersweet for sure. It's hard not to talk to

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Speaker 2: her about the eggs. It was always an exciting time

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Speaker 2: and it was always kind of felt like she was

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Speaker 2: having me eggs. She was having the chicks a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So it's definitely she's definitely missed. We are going to

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Speaker 2: have a celebration of life for Sandy that's open to

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Speaker 2: the public on Saturday, June thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that date is announced. Okay, Saturday June thirteenth, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: good to know. We'll talk to you before that because

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have asked us who've

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Speaker 1: listened to Sandy over the last few years have asked

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Speaker 1: when that celebration is going to be. Also, one of

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Speaker 1: Sandy's pet projects is to preserve the land near the nest,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to give you just an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: plug that because I know you're still fundraising for it

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Speaker 1: and you need to make a lot of money to

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Speaker 1: get this done.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for asking about that. Yes, you can go

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Speaker 2: to Savemooncamp dot org. We have a wonderful community that

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Speaker 2: has worked really hard and raised over one point five

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Speaker 2: million dollars and just over a month since we launched

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Speaker 2: the fundraiser, and they've been mostly small donations. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. We know times are tight and we're looking

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Speaker 2: for large donations and companies or individuals that can afford

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Speaker 2: to give to step up to the plate, okay.

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Speaker 1: And that's save Moon Camp, and that's to prevent the

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Speaker 1: development of a site that is very close to the

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Speaker 1: nest that Sandy was fighting against to try to preserve,

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Speaker 1: you know, the land for Jackie and Shadow and other wildlife.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's less than a mile from the nest and

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Speaker 2: the disturbance will likely cause them to leave the area

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Speaker 2: all together. Taking over that shoreline will definitely make it

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Speaker 2: more difficult for Jackie in Shadow to tend to the

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Speaker 2: nest because that's where they perch and forge for food.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Friends of Big Bear Valley media manager Jenny Wissard,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time this morning, so appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be watching The Nest. I've got it on

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me all

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Speaker 1: Right, Take care,