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Speaker 2: Hey Chris merrildfie AM on demand.

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Speaker 3: Any time on the iHeart Radio app. All bad news.

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Speaker 2: You heard Mark talking about the Sally Kirkland passed away,

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Speaker 2: which I think is really sad and I also think

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Speaker 2: Sally Kirkland doesn't really get her due.

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Speaker 3: ABC seven had the report.

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Speaker 4: Sally Kirkland a one time model who became a regular

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Speaker 4: on stage, film, and TV, best known for sharing the

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Speaker 4: screen with Paul Newman and Robert Redford in The Sting

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Speaker 4: and her Oscar nominated title role in the nineteen eighty

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Speaker 4: seven movie Anna Has Died. She was eighty four.

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Speaker 3: The New York Don't you know who I am?

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Speaker 4: Cook Native when a Golden Globe for her performance.

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Speaker 5: I think that we can have peace in the world

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Speaker 5: of all of the actors, artists, writers, directors, producers share

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Speaker 5: their art in all different countries.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that is amazing. I mean.

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Speaker 2: She basically coined the the Hollywood stereotype, right like, if

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Speaker 2: all the artists get together, we'll have peace all Its incredible.

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Speaker 4: Kirkland's vivacious personality captivated viewers on and off the screen.

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Speaker 2: God bless the Oscars. Sally Kirkland, enjoy your evening here.

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Speaker 4: The year she's crazy here, it flew by, but she

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Speaker 4: never slowed down.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I just want to work and work and work,

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Speaker 5: and I want to blow your minds and I want

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Speaker 5: you to cry and I want you to laugh. It's

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Speaker 5: not over till the Fat Ladies saying. So, I plan

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Speaker 5: to be acting around one hundred. I am desperate to

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Speaker 5: recall details for the pieces to fit together easily like

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Speaker 5: they used to real pieces, ugly, dirty, rotten.

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Speaker 3: I don't care. She has fun. She's eighty four. The

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Speaker 3: Fat Lady has sung. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you knew this, but she has

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Speaker 6: something like two hundred and seventy credits.

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Speaker 2: She would take work anywhere. I gotta tell you. When

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Speaker 2: I was in high school northern Michigan, tiny little town,

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Speaker 2: we had a community college that used to have a

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Speaker 2: guest artist come in and they would start in a show.

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Speaker 2: And we were doing, uh, the Miracle Worker, right and

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Speaker 2: Frank and she had signed.

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Speaker 3: On to join us. She backed out of it.

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Speaker 6: Frank and the Miracle Worker. I'm sorry. I can't let

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Speaker 6: that go.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Helen Keller, Helen Keller and the Miracle Worker. I mean

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Speaker 2: that would have been a really thank you, thank you

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Speaker 2: for that question, totally different miracle wah wa. All right, No,

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Speaker 2: I should have just let that go.

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Speaker 3: That was funny.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm so glad you corrected it, because I would

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Speaker 2: I feel like a major boob when I have a

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you did that. Like, oh, did she

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Speaker 2: play a Nazi in the An Frank version of The

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Speaker 2: Miracle Worker? No? No, okay, very good, thank you, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Helen Keller, Oh, thank you, Mark.

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Speaker 3: Sorry. Anyway, she was slated to.

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Speaker 2: Place and it was this tiny little community college and

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Speaker 2: she ended up getting another role in their scheduled didn't

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Speaker 3: She had to back out of it.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, we were scheduled to have an Oscar

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Speaker 2: nominee on the stage of this dinky little town in

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Speaker 2: our little community theater production, and from that moment on,

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Speaker 2: I was like, this lady's pretty great, I mean pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: So I was sad when I saw her pass away.

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Speaker 2: Man Me said, eighty four. Dick Cheney just died. He

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Speaker 2: was eighty four, and I think Dick Cheney had six

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Speaker 2: heart attacks.

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Speaker 6: Do you know it's easy to lose count after a

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Speaker 3: Let me bing this.

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Speaker 2: How well, let's see how many heart attacks did Dick

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Speaker 5: Five?

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Speaker 3: Five heart attacks? Only five? Only only five?

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Speaker 2: I have five heart attacks and uh he made it

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Speaker 3: Okay, wait a minute, Let's see how many lawyers.

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Speaker 2: Did Dick Cheney shoot in the face. I think that's

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Speaker 2: only one? Just one, just one. I didn't know if

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Speaker 2: there were others that we hadn't heard about. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: just just one lawyer that he shot in the face

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Speaker 2: in a hunting accident, with so five times as many

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you learn something new every night, don't you. You

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Speaker 3: don't like that radio. I was surprised, Yeah, did you?

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Speaker 2: I was so saddened to see that Jimmy Kimmel's band

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Speaker 3: This is from E News.

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Speaker 7: Jimmy Kimmel is grieving a personal and professional loss. The

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Speaker 7: late night host announces on social media that the band

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Speaker 7: leader for Jimmy Kimmel Live, Clito Escobato the Third, passed

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Speaker 7: away November eleventh. Jimmy writes in a tribute on Instagram.

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Speaker 7: Early this morning, we lost a great friend, father, son, musician,

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Speaker 7: and man. My longtime band leader Cleto Escobeto.

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Speaker 2: The third.

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Speaker 7: To say that we are heartbroken is an understatement, he

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Speaker 7: adds Clito and I have been inseparable since I was

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Speaker 7: nine years old. The fact that we got to work

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Speaker 7: together every day is a dream neither of us could

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Speaker 7: ever have imagined would come true. Jimmy concludes his heartfelt

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Speaker 7: message with cherish your friends and please keep Cleito's wife, children,

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Speaker 7: and parents in your prayers. Five days earlier, the November

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Speaker 7: sixth taping of Jimmy Kimmel Live was postponed while the

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Speaker 7: host dealt with a personal matter. The ABC series, which

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Speaker 7: previously faced a temporary suspension in September, returned November tenth,

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Speaker 7: though the TV host did not address the last minute's

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Speaker 7: scheduling change. In addition to close night duties, the musician

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Speaker 7: also toured with the likes of Paula Abdul, Mark Anthony,

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Speaker 7: and Earth Wind and Fire. Jimmy previously described Cleto as

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Speaker 7: a child prodigy.

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Speaker 3: But wait, okay, so he was only fifty nine. No

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Speaker 3: cause of death.

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Speaker 6: No, we don't know that yet. And as sad as

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Speaker 6: that story is, that story that you just played sound

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Speaker 6: like it was read by an AI, it.

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Speaker 3: Did It was very monotone, wasn't it. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, five days earlier, the November sixth taping of Jimmy

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Speaker 7: Kimmel Live was postponed.

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Speaker 3: You're right. With the music background and the yeah your

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Speaker 3: music freemo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it kind of detracts from the from the horrible

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Speaker 6: sadness of the whole thing when you realize, yeah, it's

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Speaker 6: it's likely computer reading this to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, although it is from us, so it's not like

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Speaker 3: one of the networks or anything. So, but you're right.

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Speaker 2: Gun, Hey, I'm so glad you brought that up, because

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Speaker 2: wait until you hear what the computer is doing.

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Speaker 3: The computer is, The computer is everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Man, I've got that's gonna be in our next SEGM.

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Speaker 2: But I did want to say this real quick. It

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Speaker 2: looks like Timber the Chalamey is already getting Oscar buzz.

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Speaker 3: Timothy sports a what's he done now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Timothy's sports lle Yeah. Terrible business model for a

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Marty Supreme. It's a twenty four's ping pong epic.

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Speaker 6: Ah, not one of those Dune melatonin substitutes.

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Speaker 3: That was such a boring movie.

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Speaker 3: Table tennis Prodigy.

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Speaker 2: Marty Mauser or Mouser or Mauser Moser anyway, I guess

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Speaker 2: he plays this guy, and uh, he's getting a little buzz.

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Speaker 2: Biopics are great for Best Actor Awards, aren't they?

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Speaker 3: Guaranteed? Oscar he tried last year? Yeah? Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 3: that was the was Wait yeah, Bob Dylan thing right

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Speaker 6: Now, be honest with me, are you going to drive

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Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to call it tape Tennis because I'm

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Speaker 2: not racist. Okay, yeah, no, I definitely it's Ping Pong.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 6: This is gonna be another one of those years where

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Speaker 6: where all the mainstream critics pick their top ten and

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Speaker 6: we're not going to scene or heard of any of them.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean I will watch it when when SAG sends them

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Speaker 2: when I can watch it on my streaming service or something.

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Speaker 2: Then I'll then I'll view it. But no, I'm not

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Speaker 2: of course, it gets a ton of buzz and it's like,

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Speaker 2: this is an amazing movie it's not what you think.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, then I might then I might be

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Speaker 2: Okay, the computers are everywhere music industry face is facing

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Speaker 2: a very strange new frontier. There is a country hit

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Speaker 2: to the top of the charts, and it's catching some backlash.

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Speaker 2: It is a brand new era in entertainment. It is

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Speaker 2: officially begun. You're gonna hear it next on Chris Merrill.

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Speaker 3: And if it's good or funny, You're quirky, You're Crazy

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Speaker 2: But it has to be relevant unless it's totally off

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Speaker 2: the wall, like I think we got a I deleted

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Speaker 2: it already, Nikki.

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Speaker 3: I got the call from your uber driver who recognized you.

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Speaker 8: Oh I loved him, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love the You don't know how you have ended up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you haven't ended up in pieces

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Speaker 3: in somebody's barrel by now. I really don't know. I know,

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Speaker 3: I'm like that. Did you hear the story?

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Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 3: Somebody recognized her.

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Speaker 2: She got in the car a little tipsy and she's

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Speaker 2: you know, chapping away in her down under accent.

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Speaker 3: She had a number of entertaining stories when I came

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Speaker 3: in today and then don't say that on air what

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Speaker 3: I told you earlier? And apparently photos as well. Oh good, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: did you show those to your your your uber driver?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I showed them to Sam though.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but I mean I'm a sex therapist and PhD

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Speaker 9: and human sexuality. This is stuff that's right up my house.

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Speaker 3: It was really off his alley. Ali, I don't want.

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Speaker 9: To Oh nope, Hey, nope.

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Speaker 3: But Nicky has fans, that's just yeah, I have only fans.

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Speaker 1: Literally.

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Speaker 2: Let's uh, number one country song in America today according

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Speaker 2: to Billboard.

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Speaker 3: You know, marko, Oh, you're big on this one.

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Speaker 2: They're digital song sales, the country digital song sales, number

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Speaker 2: one song in the US.

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Speaker 3: You're never gonna guess it? Uh you want to? You

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Speaker 3: want a little sample of it? Oh? Please? It's a banger.

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Speaker 3: I like this. I love that southern soul sound. I

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Speaker 3: love that on my jeans. Ready to go? Yeah, mud

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Speaker 3: on this? Are you sure. It's mud on the jeans, sir. Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's catchy. Right, you can kick rocks if you don't

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Speaker 3: like it. It's soul full singing in talking through the

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Speaker 3: rest of the show like that.

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Speaker 8: Oh, that's not a bad idea. It's a phone going

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Speaker 8: gonna finish this show. I'm gonna take it on up

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Speaker 2: No, it dilutes it is what it does. Here's my problem.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting some pictures tonight.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I'll send you some blocker now.

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Speaker 9: Bandon over just to please a crowd, then and over

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, what exactly does that mean? Easy? Come on out? Well, guys,

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Speaker 3: The fallout is untethered. It is next. Well, that was

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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 3: Uh, let me see.

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Speaker 2: So we played the new music from the number one

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Speaker 3: Uh, and it's completely AI generated. That's it. I think

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Speaker 2: Dude, if you listen to pop music in the last

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Speaker 3: Most nineties alt rock was exactly that.

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Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, the swift the song black Hole Sun

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Speaker 3: God, that's it.

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Speaker 5: This is Lisa and I'm here in Nashville and you

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm Sorry, I'm really sorry about that.

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Speaker 5: I was laughing so hard, and that voice sounds good

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Speaker 5: enough to me, better than some of the people here

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Speaker 3: Off this country exactly.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, you are just so funny.

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Speaker 3: She's talking to you, Mark.

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Speaker 6: The point is that you need to stop making people

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Speaker 6: could be an FCC violation. Do that Frankie Valley thing again?

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Speaker 6: You just did.

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Speaker 3: Oh a crack.

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Speaker 2: I came up with it. I had a new character today.

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Speaker 2: It was Timmy. Timmy is the wildly inappropriate to show

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Speaker 3: Oh that was a callback to an hour ago nobody

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Speaker 3: hits you, Joe, and it was fun. This is a blast, honestly.

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Speaker 6: What's not funny about multiple personality disorder? I think we

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Speaker 3: I could be institutionalized or I could make some money

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Speaker 3: off of it. Sam, you went to weigh in on this. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: I think it's great for radio. Yeah, thank you? Perfect,

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Speaker 3: Oh, thanks doing a good job. Appreciate your show. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you. Versie. You know what, that's a good point.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think AI actually screws you worse than

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Speaker 3: It causes farms.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, if you're gonna pull out the extra character,

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Speaker 6: I can't argue against the two of you.

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Speaker 3: Hear what you're saying. I do, Mark, I hear what

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Speaker 2: I know you know, but but it's one of those

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Speaker 3: But I'm not for replacing somebody.

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Speaker 3: No, that's bogus.

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Speaker 2: Well, what AI is going to sit up until four

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Speaker 6: Well that's an inarguable point, and I hope our bosses

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And I think this is going to

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Speaker 2: I think that there's gonna be a lot of people replaced.

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Speaker 2: Well that'll solve the problem. Well, I was reading an article.

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Speaker 2: Nikki actually said it to me. The Free Press had it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it basically talked about how the teen Vogue

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Speaker 2: That was always my complaint, Like, I just wanted music news, right,

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Speaker 6: You never read Hunter s Thompson, J O'Rourke, any of

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Speaker 6: Rolling Stone had some solid political writing, and regardless of

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Speaker 2: What you're saying. But that wasn't the lane I wanted.

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Speaker 2: Rogan has stuff that's sort of all over but still

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Speaker 2: generally speaking, it's man talk, right, that's kind of his podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of man talk. He's not gonna do gardening advice.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna give you DIY tips, he's not gonna

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Speaker 2: tell you what hot cars are out there. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: do man talk. You know, this is guy stuff, right,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of his lane. You gotta know your lane.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like that's where Team Vogue went wrong,

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Speaker 2: is that they started trying to compete in a circle.

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Speaker 2: It's already flooded with a lot of different opinions, and

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Speaker 2: then you're very divisive. But then the The staffers were

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Speaker 2: not happy about it, and so they went and confronted

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Speaker 2: HR and uh, it didn't go very well.

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Speaker 3: So this is what happened.

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Speaker 2: When the staffers were being told that Team Vogue was

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Speaker 2: going away, confronted HR about, Uh, you want to tell

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Speaker 2: us what's happening here?

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Speaker 3: Is there a place that you would be able to

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Speaker 3: speak to us?

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Speaker 10: Not today?

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Speaker 3: We have other things going on. Do you think we're

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Speaker 3: not worth speaking to?

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Speaker 5: Sam?

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Speaker 3: But HELLI.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So everyone should go back to your workplace.

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Speaker 2: Okay, HR says everyone should go back to their workplace.

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Speaker 2: They're literally at work.

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Speaker 3: I work.

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Speaker 10: We have come working person here four days a week.

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Speaker 2: So that the HR director just starts walking away and they're.

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Speaker 3: Like, are you walking away?

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Speaker 2: And he's like no, I'm basically escorting you back to

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Speaker 2: you're not desks. So this goes on and they're just

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Speaker 2: kind of confronting him and like, hey, why won't you

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Speaker 2: talk to us?

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Speaker 3: Why are you doing this to us?

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Speaker 2: You know this is this is unprofessional blah blah blah,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, no, you're unprofessional. But it didn't like

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Speaker 2: that was the tenor through the whole thing. Four of

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Speaker 2: the people there and I'm going to tell you they

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Speaker 2: were about a dozen. Four of the people there that

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Speaker 2: confronted him got fired, just canned. You can't make hr

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Speaker 2: feel sad about themselves for getting ready to fire all

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Speaker 2: of you.

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Speaker 3: How dare you do such a thing? Canned? So that's

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Speaker 3: egg on their face. They don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how viable the model for teen Vogue

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Speaker 2: would have been going forward anyway, because we're entering into

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Speaker 2: a new generation.

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Speaker 3: We're at the tail end of Gen Z right, and we're.

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Speaker 2: At the at the the early Jen Alpha entering into

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Speaker 2: those teenage years. I don't know that Jen Elfick cares

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Speaker 2: to read. And don't mean that to be diminutive. I

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Speaker 2: mean I don't think that they want to read. They

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Speaker 2: want they want short clips, they want videos, they want

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Speaker 2: to scroll. And I don't know that teen Vogue was

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Speaker 2: going to be able to survive with the the brand

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Speaker 2: that they had. And I don't think that the teens

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Speaker 2: are really is beholden to the brands from the previous generation.

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Speaker 2: There's one thing I know.

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Speaker 3: Teens are fickle and don't want to adopt the previous generations. Stuff.

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Speaker 3: Reading is hard, it is hard and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But Mark, you didn't want to adopt like your parents' brands,

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Speaker 2: Like your parents must have been what like flappers?

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Speaker 3: Right? You didn't want to be the Charleston.

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Speaker 6: Well, actually I grew up with my with my grandparents

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Speaker 6: who were from the Depression. So all myos for all

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Speaker 6: my taste being a couple of generations older than me.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, in all fairness, teen Vogue broke some

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Speaker 6: major news in its day.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, so did National Inquire, But I

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Speaker 2: still don't read that crap.

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Speaker 3: You're insane, You're insane. You're insane. All right.

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Speaker 2: You heard the warnings for decades, and now you've got

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Speaker 2: a medical consensus that's shifting. Experts say there's a risk

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Speaker 2: of a very common treatment, but the risk may not

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Speaker 2: be as dire as was once believe. What this reversal

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Speaker 2: is going to mean to millions of women and men

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Speaker 2: is next, Chris Merrill.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: George Norian Coast to Coach is next KFI AM six

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Speaker 2: forty more stimulating talk, George, what can we expect this evening? Guys,

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to the folks showing Critical healthnews

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Speaker 2: dot com about staying around for a long time, and

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Speaker 2: then later on a tribute to the veterans on a

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Speaker 2: perfect night for I love it Coast to Coast the

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Speaker 2: only show you should listen to when you're driving home.

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Speaker 3: I do on my way home. George, thank you so much,

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Speaker 3: good Man. Thank yeah. I love it the best show,

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Speaker 3: best show.

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Speaker 2: Uh so I don't Yeah, she's in bed. I don't

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Speaker 2: think my wife likes me talking about this. But my

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Speaker 2: wife is of that age where she's been dealing with

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Speaker 2: uh lady, transitioning stuff right, and the hot flashes have

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Speaker 2: been horrible.

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Speaker 3: Oh that kind of transition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, easy, easy, Yeah, one of the reads you're gonna have,

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Speaker 2: NICKI trying to make phone calls in there. So so

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Speaker 2: here's the deal though, Like I feel helpless.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I want to help. I want it.

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Speaker 2: Like she's miserable, covers off, covers on, kicking me out

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Speaker 2: of the bed, kicking me out of the room, turning

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Speaker 2: the fan on, turning the fan of it's and so

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Speaker 2: the hot flashes at night are terrible and just the

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Speaker 2: other stuff she says, you know, sort of the emotional

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Speaker 2: stuff that goes on during the day.

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Speaker 3: She's like, why am I crying?

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Speaker 2: Nothing happened, sitting in the kitchen eating crackers and I'm crying,

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Speaker 2: and I just I feel horrible for her.

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Speaker 3: I really do well her.

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Speaker 2: Her doctor said, well, we can try hr T, which

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Speaker 2: is hormone replacement therapy.

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Speaker 3: She said, the thing is said, we have to find out.

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Speaker 2: What your what your history is here, And in fact,

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Speaker 2: she tried to get this stuff through one uh online

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Speaker 2: doctor who she she first approached. She said, was your

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Speaker 2: history my wife had she had cancer, right, just a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago. But it was it was kind

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Speaker 2: of after that, like as they were removing as they

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Speaker 2: were doing a hysterectomy, they found cancer kind of thing, right,

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Speaker 2: So fortunately we didn't have to go through that whole

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Speaker 2: cancer scare chemotherapy stuff.

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Speaker 3: It was like one fell swoop.

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Speaker 2: But but she's been dealing with this stuff since it's

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Speaker 2: been really it's been really hard on her. So the

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Speaker 2: first person said, well, yeah, you had cancer, and the

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Speaker 2: warnings on hormone replacement therapy are you know it can

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Speaker 2: it can cause issues for women who have a history

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Speaker 2: of cancer or things like heart disease and such. Right,

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Speaker 2: So she found another gynecologist, this one in person, and

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Speaker 2: they said we'll keep an eye on you. But I

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Speaker 2: don't see why you're not a good candidate for it.

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Speaker 2: You're you're in your you know, you're you're very healthy,

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Speaker 2: you're in your fifties. The cancer thing was it was

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Speaker 2: a short scare. Yeah, let's give it a shot and

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Speaker 2: see if it makes a difference. And so she's been

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Speaker 2: trying that now for a few months and she says

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Speaker 2: it is. It's not the hot flashes more than in half.

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Speaker 2: Then the doctor says it's probably gonna get better too.

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Speaker 2: So's she feels like she found some sort of a

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Speaker 2: miracle here, right, because she's got this HRT. Well, now

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Speaker 2: the FDA is saying, you know what, all those warnings

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Speaker 2: we had about heart disease and stroke and increased risks

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Speaker 2: of cancer, yeah, I don't worry about that. New evidence is

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Speaker 2: that for healthy women under sixty, the benefits like the

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Speaker 2: relief from the hot flashes, sleep, disruption of the bone

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Speaker 2: loss are they outweigh the risks. And so fortunately she

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Speaker 2: found a doctor that had this doctor's head screwed down straight.

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Speaker 2: And now the FDA is kind of catching up to

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Speaker 2: that too. So women, if you are postmenopausal, or you're

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Speaker 2: you're say you're parent, well, I don't know if it

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Speaker 2: works for paramenopausal, but if you are menopausal post menopausal,

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Speaker 2: there may be some relief out there, So this might

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Speaker 2: be a good time to talk to your doctor and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: myn a candidate for maybe not suffering any longer. And

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Speaker 2: Fellas it's to really for you too, because you don't

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Speaker 2: have to watch your suffer anymore. U Niki, great job tonight. Really,

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Speaker 2: you did a nice job all the way around, sam Alie.

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Speaker 2: I know you guys were kind of tag teaming in there.

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Speaker 2: You did fantastic and I know behind the scenes kind

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Speaker 2: of scrambling with some technical stuff people couldn't see it,

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Speaker 2: and that means you did an amazing job. And Mark,

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Speaker 2: I forgive you, ah you should.

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Speaker 3: You're a complete pro and I appreciate you. You're a

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Speaker 3: complete You're a complete pro. All right, talk to you

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Speaker 3: again tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Chris Merril KFI AM six on Demand,