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Speaker 1: Backstage line the Mercedes Ben's If You Lounge Hot ninety

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Speaker 1: IFI jingle Ball with Alex Warren, Sir, what I mean?

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Speaker 1: It was a year ago this week basically, right the

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Speaker 1: ordinary is born?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, about at jingle Ball was when it was created?

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Speaker 2: Funny enough, it didn't come out like you can't like

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Speaker 2: nine months ago, ten months ago, which is crazy.

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Speaker 1: And also I heard too, you had to push for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was told it took a lot of fighting

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Speaker 2: Does that give you the confidence now, like I know

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Speaker 2: the sound, I know what people want to hear. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean no, I still clocks my

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Speaker 2: own tea just now. I still often wonder. I think

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Speaker 2: it's just like I've been writing songs that I like.

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Speaker 2: I've been listening to my own music, and I love it,

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Speaker 2: and so I bet if I like it, there's some

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Speaker 2: people out there who like it too.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's gotta be cool to see it now on

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Speaker 1: stage jingle Ball. When that song starts, the crowds gotta

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Speaker 1: go crazy. What's that feeling like to see the actual

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Speaker 1: reaction of people versus streaming numbers being millions of millions.

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Speaker 2: Gets me excited, funny enough, I'm I'm my ears are muting,

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Speaker 3: I don't hear anyone out out there, so people could

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Speaker 2: And I often think that no one knows who I

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Speaker 2: I sing yeah, well, when I sing ordinary, I like

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Speaker 2: people are singing it, and every time they are, and

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Speaker 2: I get surprised every time by that for some reason.

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Speaker 3: Is it the greatest gadgetil free card ever? Though?

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Speaker 2: With the misses where it's like, hey, I wrote ordinary

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Speaker 2: about you, you'd think that and then you think that,

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Speaker 2: but no, no, no, she still clocks me on my

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Speaker 1: But that's good though, because she was there before before

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Speaker 1: the fame, and that's a lot of people are kind

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, like you, how are you not?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: This is like weird because you're like, oh, I'm nice,

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Speaker 2: I swear, but like it's like she often like people

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Speaker 2: often go like, how are you not?

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Speaker 3: Like you know?

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Speaker 2: And I often say, yeah, I have my wife. I

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Speaker 2: have my wife who keeps me very grounded. She's been

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Speaker 2: a part of this from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: The album You'll Be all Right Kid is fantastic. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's just so much, there's ups

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Speaker 1: icon maybe for kids who've gone through hard time that hey,

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Speaker 1: like it can be okay, you can still get through.

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Speaker 2: The hard times. I don't know of icons the word.

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Speaker 2: I think for me, I just I write these songs

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Speaker 2: because I felt like there wasn't any music that you

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Speaker 3: To help you grieve.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, for me, it helped me a lot,

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Speaker 2: And so I'm stoked whenever people tell me that these

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Speaker 3: Was it hard? I mean, let's be blest me real,

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Speaker 3: but like, was it Harvey?

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Speaker 1: You'd be sitting back and like, I actually am good

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Speaker 3: No, no, I no, no, I get what you There

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Speaker 3: I think everyone should try to do music.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. Like, I think more than ever, it's

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Speaker 3: For sure. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I it was hard for me. It was really difficult.

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Speaker 2: I take vocal lessons, I take guitar lessons, I do

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Speaker 1: I mean the Grammy nomination, thank you, that's pretty that's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool, this is pretty suck. They were the last

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Speaker 1: be tough, like we did pretty good this past year.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I think it was just a lot of people were

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Speaker 2: always like, okay, guys like no, it's not like stop.

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Speaker 2: And when I woke up, everyone was at my house.

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Speaker 2: I was second to last, and Lola Young out there.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine how you felt. I definitely was like

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Speaker 2: because ordinary and all this stuff had gotten passed up,

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Speaker 2: and I truly I was like, Okay, well this is

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Speaker 2: not It's not my time. You know, maybe maybe next

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Speaker 2: And you know, thankfully the Academy saw that and voted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well tonight we'll see you on stage with Jelly Roll.

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Speaker 1: How cool is that to be able to do a

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Speaker 1: I Jelly's Shelley's my neighbor.

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Speaker 2: Funny enough, so when I had written that song for

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Speaker 3: It was so fun.

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Speaker 2: I inspired thank you bloodline too many times. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: this was on my tour. I've performed this song with

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Speaker 2: Jelly though. Oh this would be third fourth okay, third fourth?

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Speaker 1: Well and speaking next year your first headline tour, the

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Speaker 2: Live No, no, I think this is just fun. And

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Speaker 2: last year I was in the audience, so I being

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Speaker 2: it's not my crowd.

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Speaker 3: Is it cool to see young kids on stage singing

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Speaker 3: back to you. It's weird.

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Speaker 2: It's really strange because like I, well, adults, adults scream

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Speaker 2: also why when I'm on stage, like it's it means

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Speaker 1: So the the tour starts next year, do we have

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Speaker 2: With Yeah, I mean, I'm working on it. I want

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Speaker 3: How did you get Jennifer Aniston to be in that video?

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Speaker 2: Jennifer's a friend of mine, so Jen flex Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: You go pro and acting. She's pretty good that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I told her that too. I was that insufferable guy.

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Speaker 2: You know when someone comes up to you and they're like,

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Speaker 1: I just think because life's tough sometimes. I think there's

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Speaker 1: The hero decides, oh, I make sure nobody feels that again.

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Speaker 1: I think that you have taken things no positives. Again,

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Speaker 1: I think some people know like it's okay if there's

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Speaker 1: I really think I hope you know that you've made

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Speaker 1: a difference in eighteen thousand people's lives in DC tonight.

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Speaker 2: Well, that means a lot. Seriously, it's been no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: But one last thing.

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Speaker 3: You ever run a musicians and go, oh we should

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Speaker 1: You go sure, and then like I'm never gonna tell me,

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Speaker 1: like I would you ever work with you? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know, like I still want to work with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big music guy. I love like I don't

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Speaker 2: Also like, I'm scared of rejections, so I've never been

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Speaker 2: like we should work sometime, Like I've never done that

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Speaker 3: I'll show someone a song and they'll like it.

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