1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Uh, I'm mark Man eight three three four one two. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: W XDX is the number to call. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 4 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really really down in the dumps, like stick 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: to my stomach over the SID injury. I know how 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: much these Olympics mean the SID. I know how much 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: making the playoffs again with the Penguins means the SID. 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: So anything you can say to top me off the 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: ledge or maybe you want me to jump off the 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: ledge at this point, because I am the proverbial miserable 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: fat guy, I don't see good in anything. You know why, 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: there's good and almost nothing, But I digress. I did 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: like the conversation I had with Tom earlier about wrestler 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: versus boxer. This on the heels of that announcement yesterday, 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Tyson against Mayweather one. It's just ridiculous. That's not wrestler 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: versus boxer. Bit it kind of led into the conversation 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: because the wrestler beats the boxer every time in a shoot. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: If each guy can do his thing, take down stretch 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: tap every time every single time. Angle versus Ali take 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: don stretch tap, Lesnar versus Tyson take down stretch tap. 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: McGregor versus Mayweather if they didn't make McGregor box that, 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: they let him just do his thing, his MMA thing, take, 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: don stretch tap every single time. And then we got 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: the Buckos, Chandler and Ashcraft one hundred and one Big 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: League innings between them. Skins can't pitch every game. You know, 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: we got song later. You're gonna love it. I feel 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: bathed in the soft go of Jesus just talking about it. 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Ben invoked God in his battle with Paz and made 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: it not a battle. Didn't even mention Pz, but instead 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Ben posted a victory for faith, family growth and the 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: art of passive aggressive. Like I said, it wasn't a 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: direct response. It was more of a sermon by Reverend Ben. 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: And we got Swen versus USA and just a bit, 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: America tiede Svensk in nineteen eighty first game of the 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Miracle on ice. I know no US players are still playing. 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: I've looked at the Sweden roster that closely. But today 37 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: there can't be a tie. There must be a winner. 38 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come down to faith, family growth, 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: and goaltending. It is just a ring a ding dong 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: dandy of a show today. So call now eight three 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: three four one two wxdx. That's a three three four 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: one two wxdx. This is about America, this is about faith, 43 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: this is about family and thinking back that alternate halftime 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: show with Kid Rock, that had nothing to do with 45 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: any of those I don't think like they said, and 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: the Steeler should not bring back Aaron Rodgers. 47 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: I feel the need to just keep throwing that out there. 48 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: I was talking before about the pressure on the US team, 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: how losing today would be a disaster in the quarters 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: to Sweden, But it's nothing like the pressure on Canada, 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: even with Sid out, because I mean Sid is their captain, 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: but McDavid McKinnon, they're the guys right now. The pressure 53 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: on Canada is insane. Overtime, I mean, I can't believe 54 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: those guys function. I can't believe Bittekan made the save. 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: I can't believe Marner danced through three checks to score 56 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: the overtime goal. Anything less than gold is an absolute 57 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: disaster for Canada, and you know it's starting to show 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: up the flaw on their team. I would say goal 59 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: to aning, but Bennington made, like I said, a breakaway 60 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: stop late in the third tie score and then the 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: save point blank in. 62 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Overtime. 63 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Oh, we know the sign up, but they're showing Sully 64 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: speaking in the dressing room. I can't tell what he's saying, though. 65 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Wait when we see if I can read his lips pinch. 66 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: No matter what. 67 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Defenseman activate, no matter what one size fits all, no 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: line matchups. I don't know how to do it. Now, 69 00:03:54,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: let's go get him the Pirates out of I'm Patrick Corbin. 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: He's still out there as a free agent, a left 71 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: handed starter. He only made one point one mil last 72 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: season with Texas. He would eat some innings. You know 73 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: what's great about getting a bad pitcher. You don't expect 74 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: him to be good. You just want him to grind 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: through some innings and let other guys not pitch. I 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: don't believe you can go into a season without a 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: left handed starter, like the Steelers with no number two 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: wide out the last two years. See that's why I 79 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: don't trust the Pirates. The Pirates spent more, but maybe 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: not enough. The Pirates improved, but maybe not enough. Maybe 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Bark goes to the lefty. 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: That's the thing about the Pirates. 84 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: We look at Griffin hitting bombs in batting practice, but 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: we don't notice they don't have a lefty starter or 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: a number five starter. I do kind of like the bullpen, 87 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: the lefty, righty vibe you got. Like the Pirate writers, 88 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: the fans who cover the Pirates every they're tweeting video 89 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: of all these bombs Griffin is hitting in BP. 90 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: Now, this is where you could. 91 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: Tell I am, just as I said a moment ago, 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: a miserable bastard, because I would be tweeting video of 93 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: the bullpen saying I can't see a left handed starter, 94 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: can you? 95 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: Donnie Kelly spoke, he talked. 96 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: About Griffin starting the season in Pittsburghen was obviously noncommittal. 97 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: But I bet Griffin starts in triple A. 98 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Powates are scared of success, but 99 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: maybe they don't want to raise expectations. That's set. That's set. 100 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: You start off eight and sixteen, you're not catching up. 101 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: Your season's over. I mean, you'll put together some decent 102 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: runs and get kind of close, but they won't dig 103 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: themselves out of an April hole. I don't think you 104 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: can make the playoffs in April. I think you can 105 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: make it almost impossible to do so with a bad 106 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: April anyway, I want your thoughts or not, doesn't matter. 107 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Eight three to three. Wait, yeah, that's right eight three 108 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: three four to one two WXDX. I'm really rattled by 109 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: the Sid injury, and I know you are too. Not 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: like me, though, I was so happy, so happy about 111 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: how the Penguins looked like they were gonna get Sid 112 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: back to the playoffs, and how good they're playing, and 113 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: how they might be arriving early, and how they could 114 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: even win a series, and how if they beat Carolina 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: a couple times in March, could even challenge for the 116 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: top of the Metro Division, which they don't want to 117 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: do because if they did, they would play a wild 118 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: card from the Atlantic. If they finished second, they get 119 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: a home I series against somebody like the Islanders. But 120 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: I digress, and now that's shot to crap, shot to crap. 121 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: On the bright side, because I watch a lot of TV, 122 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm through an episode and a half of that ABA 123 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: documentary on Amazon Prime and it's awesome. 124 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: It captures the spirit of the thing, like one of. 125 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: The early stars of the ABA was one in Jabali 126 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: changed his name from Warren Armstrong because he embraced Islam, 127 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: which is great. And they interviewed a bunch of his 128 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: teammates and they all had some version of this. One 129 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: guy literally said the thing about Laren is he hated 130 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: white people. And it reminded me Eddie Murphy four to 131 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: eight hours when he when he you know, flashes the 132 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: badge and acts like he's a cop in the in 133 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: the Redneck bar, he says, I don't like white people. 134 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: And they showed Connie Hawkins and the Pittsburgh Piper's winning 135 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: the first ABA championship and all the fights. That was 136 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: one of the things they emphasized first year the ABA. 137 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: It was very physical and they showed a bunch of 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: fights and we ain't even got to John Brisker yet, 139 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Condor Heavyweight champion of the ABA. 140 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: I love stuff like that. You just want me to 141 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 2: talk about the oh oh. 142 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: They showed Rick Barry, one of the great Basketball Hall 143 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: of Famer, best free throw shooter ever, shot underhand, Granny 144 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: style always has let him do his thing. He was 145 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: just awesome, all right, eight three, three, four, one two 146 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: WXDX hit your calls in now for calls on the fifteens. 147 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: This show is all over the place lately. It's all 148 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: over the place, period. Am I a miserable bastard. Am 149 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: I betraying the credo of sports talk? I think I 150 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: am betraying the current creedo of sports talk, which is 151 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: to never be critical. 152 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: But that's how it going to go. 153 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh, they're dropping the puck. Beck is a vintaget 154 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: always looks like he just woke up on a park bench. 155 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: My god. I mean then again, me right now, I 156 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: haven't shaved in like a year. I look just horrible. 157 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: You know that. 158 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: That is me trying to make myself look fat, even 159 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: though I've lost fifty three pounds thanks to the miracle 160 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: of awake in one to eighty. 161 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: You should try too. 162 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: You know what's a weird complaint, by the way, with 163 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: the Olympics, is the NHL can't use Olympic highlights on 164 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: any of its platforms, be at the dot Com, NHL network, Twitter. 165 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: That's not on the IOC. 166 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: That's on the NHL for not negotiatating that as a 167 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: requirement of player participation. That, as I've said repeatedly, I've 168 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: been talking all day, the NHL gets zero out of 169 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: being in the Olympics, but the players want it. All right, 170 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: We're sixteen seconds in and it's already a hum danger. 171 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: Oh wait, here comes Sweden. 172 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: Here comes Sweden, Here comes Sweden, Here comes the US. 173 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: One oh five nine. 174 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: It's still the super genius Mark Madden. 175 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: Mark afternoon, Mark Madden? 176 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 5: What do you want? 177 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 6: What do you want? 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: Dammit? 179 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: The exit one nine. 180 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Still nil nil between Sweden and the US. Carl out 181 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: there killing penalties. 182 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: He is a jugger. 183 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: Here's a couple of topics from that Canada CHECKI a 184 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: game which saw Sid knocked out of the game and 185 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: maybe out of the tournament, maybe out of the season. 186 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: His knee buckled under him when Radgo Gudas, who's a dink. 187 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: We remember him from the Flyers mostly he's still in 188 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: the league somewhere. 189 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: I forget where he sucks. He's dirty, he's an ass, 190 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: he's a meathead. 191 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: But I hesitate to make him the villain in this 192 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: because I didn't think that hit was dirty. I don't 193 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: think it was thrown with any sort of intent. It 194 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: just kind of caught Sid awkward and his knee buckled. 195 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: I do think the Palot hit a few moments before that, 196 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: where he blatantly threw a full out body check when 197 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: Sid wasn't anywhere near the pucket was interference, but I 198 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: don't think that's the hit that hurts SID. 199 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: I think it was the Gouddas hit. 200 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: So your thoughts on Goudas's hit was their intent And 201 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: just if you want a vent, because now the Penguins 202 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: are screwed and Sid got hurt playing hockey, but not 203 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: for them, let me know that too. Eight three three 204 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: four one two wxdx and I repeat, it's not on Sid. 205 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't blame Sid. I just don't think NHL players 206 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: should be there. 207 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 2: I don't think. 208 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: NHL team's assets should be put at risk in a 209 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: situation that doesn't benefit the NHL, and it doesn't benefit 210 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: the NHL. There's no metric by which it could be 211 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: decisively said. Participation in Olympic hockey benefits the National Hockey League. 212 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: The NHL is just what it is. It has its audience, 213 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: it probably won't grow much. I think the advantage that 214 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: the Olympics have and what the four Nations had last year, 215 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: was they're played in February. It seems like hockey season. 216 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't even want to watch hockey in June when 217 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: the finals are un less, the Penguins are playing, okay, 218 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: so get a call in Also, I said. 219 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: Very definitively a moment ago, that. 220 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: A wrestler beats a boxer every time of each guy 221 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: can do his thing. The kurd Angle in his prime 222 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: would take down Mike Tyson and his prime, stretch him 223 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: and tap him. It wouldn't be that hard and it 224 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: wouldn't take that long. I think everybody knows that's true. 225 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't think there's really anybody out there that would 226 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: logically disagree with me. Let's go to Tony B. Tony, 227 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: You're own with double M hey Mark. 228 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 5: First, I just want to say, I'm so bummed to 229 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 5: hear about what happened with said and I really really 230 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 5: hope he's gonna be okay for the over the season. 231 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: I hope he's gonna be okay for Sid's sake first 232 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: and foremost. 233 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: But yeah, go. 234 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 5: Ahead, Okay, So and wake does the holes Zach Banner 235 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 5: thing that's going on. Now, You've said it yourself that 236 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh is too stupid to recognize who its heros are. 237 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of Pittsburgh people love Zach 238 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: Banner tackle eligible. 239 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 5: What I was just gonna say is that I feel 240 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 5: like that also applies to a lot of Tomlin's players too. Oh, 241 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: they're just like too stupid and too ignorant Eves. 242 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: No, they were out of control when they played for him. 243 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: They had no accountability when they played for him. Why 244 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: would they have accountability now? And why would in Banner's case, 245 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: they defend the guy who allowed them to skate without accountability. 246 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 5: That's true, I mean, and it's funny how you look 247 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: at those scrums, but then you look at guys like 248 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: and di Castro and ab which I feel like he 249 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 5: must be doing therapy. They're never won, but at least 250 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: they're able to acknowledge and respect, you know, the players 251 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 5: who really truly contributed to winning for. 252 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: The logo and Banner's telling James Harrison to shut up. 253 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a James Harrison fan, but I 254 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: know who signed him on in that dispute. Zach Banner 255 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: was a fat lump who never did anything. James Harrison 256 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: had the best play in Super Bowl history. 257 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no question. And I just go to the show, 258 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: like say, like only scrubs. The way how they are 259 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 5: defending that just goes You've. 260 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: Got to call that call went on too long, by 261 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: the way, I just got corrected when Zach Banner was 262 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: declared eligible. He was eligible to eat a dozen donuts 263 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: at one sitting. Let's go to Phil fill your on 264 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: with Mark, Mark, what I mean? 265 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: What I mean? 266 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, this this Sid injury. For his sake, I hope 267 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: he's fine. But thinking from a Penguin standpoint, no, Sid, 268 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: you gotta be sellers at the deadline, right, like, see 269 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: what you can do there? But are they so far? 270 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 4: I shouldn't say they're far in a playoff spot, but 271 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: because that can change it. 272 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: There, they're pretty solidly in a playoff spot. Now they 273 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: figure to be at least challenging still when the deadline 274 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: rolls around, the deadline's not that far off. 275 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: It's March sixth, right, yeah, yeah, it's early in March. 276 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, they're not going to be sellers. 277 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: They're not going to insult the rest of the dressing 278 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: room because one guy's out, even if it is their 279 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: best guy and their catalysts. 280 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: So no, they won't be sellers because of this. 281 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: Now, Mark, here's the question, because I'm like you, I'm 282 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: rooting for Canada, rooting for SID because it's hard to 283 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: root against it. No Sid, the rest of the tournament, 284 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 4: if that's the possibility, USA. 285 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for whoever wins this game the rest of 286 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: the tournament of Sid's out. Then again, I don't know, 287 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: because it would still mean a lot to sit of 288 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Canada one. 289 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: He is on the team, So I don't. 290 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: Know, right, I'm with you there, I'm just I'm just 291 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: I'm just. 292 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Sick to my stomach. Thank you for the call. Sick 293 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: to my big fat stomach. 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Mike, 326 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: as you know, Sidney Crosby got hurt in Canada's game 327 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: against Chechia it don't look good. 328 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: It might wreck the Penguin season. 329 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: What's your feeling on professional athletes being at risk in 330 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: competition like the Olympics at no benefit to their employer. 331 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 6: Well, I think that the benefit is that you put 332 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 6: them on stages like the Olympics and the game becomes 333 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 6: bigger and the money becomes bigger as a result. 334 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: It just doesn't, Mike, not for hockey. It just doesn't. 335 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: Well, I can't argue with you. 336 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 6: Hockey does seem to have a bit of a ceiling 337 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 6: in that regard. It's it's been I'm sure it's been 338 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 6: frustrating for the people who run the sport that it 339 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 6: hasn't been able to break out even more than it has. 340 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 6: There are a lot, there are millions of dedicated hockey fans, 341 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 6: but there could always be more, and so I get that. 342 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 6: I can understand the frustration of Penguins fans or the 343 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 6: concern I did read a quote earlier that from a 344 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 6: that I shared from a Canadian journalist who said that 345 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 6: after the game, the Canada coach John Cooper didn't update 346 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 6: Crosby's status, but did say that the players were contending 347 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 6: in the locker room that he's not done at the Olympics. 348 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought that was more generic Mike. 349 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: I think it was like, Okay, let's rally for sid 350 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: and if he can't play, let's give him another game. 351 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he had it. 352 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 6: I don't I don't know that they were I hope 353 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 6: they weren't just saying, well, he in the stands. I 354 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 6: hope that wasn't what they meant, because that wouldn't carry 355 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 6: much meaning, I don't think. But I mean, Mark Cuban 356 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 6: is one who has complained about international competition in the 357 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 6: past that when he was owning the Mavericks and Luka 358 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 6: Doncic was his star, uh he Luca played a lot 359 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 6: because his country only has like one guy. 360 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: So whereas the US might play different players. 361 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 6: In the World Cup competition, which is not as prominent 362 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 6: here as it is elsewhere, and save the best players 363 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 6: for the Olympics. Are the best players save themselves for 364 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 6: the Olympics. Luca was playing all the time, and he complained. 365 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 6: Mark complained about that and being problematic, and so I 366 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 6: understand the position of ownership if that's the position, But 367 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 6: no one forced the NHL to do this. I mean 368 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 6: they were out of the Olympics. 369 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh no, no. 370 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: They did it to get other concessions in the CBA, 371 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: and to be fair, the players wanted. Although that's kind 372 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: of a weird stance for the union to take because 373 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: the Olympics only serves what maybe at most five to 374 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: ten percent of their membership. 375 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean that's that's a lot compared to 376 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 6: the way the Baseball CBA works, where they only serve 377 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 6: about one percent of their membership. So that's at least 378 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 6: an increase over what the baseball guys are doing. 379 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no question about that. Don't you 380 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: think though, that if Sid's out for an appreciable amount 381 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: of time, never mind the season, don't you think this 382 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: totally wrecks the Penguin season because I think it's the 383 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, Mike. 384 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: Right now they're in a playoff spot without Sid. 385 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: They won't hold onto it, but nor will they plumbt 386 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: enough to get the draft pick that they would would 387 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: want for not having Sid. 388 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly could be. 389 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 6: I mean, they got by for a long and I 390 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 6: know they're not the same player, but they got by 391 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 6: for a long time. 392 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: How long was that Gino out? A month? 393 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they've been They also they also lost the 394 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: eight games he was out to start him being out. 395 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 6: Right, and then they recovered and got it right. So 396 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 6: I'm just saying that there is the potential for good 397 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 6: hockey there. But I also realized that Sid is a 398 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 6: better player and a more important player than Gino, as 399 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 6: great as Gino is and has been this year. 400 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: And it'll kill the dressing room. Though. 401 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: The dressing room will rally initially, and then the reality 402 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: of him not playing will sink in. 403 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I absolutely could be the case. 404 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 6: I'm hopeful that the injury is not that severe. 405 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: He didn't. 406 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 6: I mean, he certainly looked uncomfortable, but and I know 407 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 6: that it's not always. I mean, I watched Rod Woodson 408 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 6: from the upper decad three Rivers limp off the the 409 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 6: uh state the turf at at three Rivers, and after 410 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 6: the getting twisted up early in the game against Detroit 411 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 6: and from the fifth level, I knew that he torn 412 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 6: his aclu so but right. 413 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: Right in ninety five, I remember that too. 414 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm hopeful that it was just that he got 415 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 6: shaken up. But I did not appreciate at all, even 416 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 6: a little bit. 417 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: And I hope you agree with me on this. I 418 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: thought the way Chechia. 419 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 6: Went after him was atrocious in something that is supposed 420 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 6: to be. Yeah, you want to win, but that to 421 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 6: go after him in. 422 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: That way, Well, Mike, it's not just talking. There's no 423 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: honor in sports at all anymore. And we could we 424 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: could do a five hour show just based on that. 425 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, I will say. 426 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: Though, I thought Pollock's interference, which was not the the 427 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: hit that hurt Sid, it was a little bit before that. 428 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: I thought that was just a terrible play. 429 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: What if you can cuss him there you're hitting him 430 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: away from the puck with a full on check. Goudas's 431 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: hit which doubled the leg under and apparently hurt Sid. 432 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: Goudas is a dirty player. That didn't strike me as 433 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: a hit with intent. I thought it was awkward more 434 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: than anything. 435 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one. 436 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: It was a little hot. 437 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 6: There was one the doubled up on him a little 438 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 6: bit as well. 439 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: It just seemed like they well. 440 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: They were targeting him, no question about that. 441 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just I have no respect for that. 442 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 3: This is the Olympics. 443 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, like I said, you want to win and physicality 444 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 6: is part of hockey, but you don't have to. 445 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: Go out of your way in this circumstance. 446 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 6: And I thought that they did, and I did not 447 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 6: respect that approach at all, and that turned me, honestly, 448 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 6: from being from ideally wanting Canada to lose so that 449 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 6: the US's path might be clearer to at that point 450 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 6: wanting Canada very much to win and being delighted when 451 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 6: they won in overtime. 452 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike the course of the Sporting News. 453 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: He's brought to us by South Hills, Kia. Mike, what's 454 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: your take on all the Steelers in house fighting. I 455 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: know it's mostly alums, besides Cam being peripherally involved. But 456 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: now Zach Banners chimed in like telling James Harrison to 457 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: shut up, which I give him guts. 458 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that, but. 459 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: Uh, I just think it's a bad look for the franchise, 460 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: don't you. 461 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 5: Well. 462 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 6: I think that it's began with the bad look of 463 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 6: the criticism from particularly individuals Ben, James Harrison, Well, Joe 464 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin's work, and it began there and. 465 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but those but those criticisms of Tomlin did not 466 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: get personal. They were merely analytical. And then Joey Porter 467 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: had to say that Ben's a bad person. That's a 468 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: whole different kettle of fish. 469 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought, I as I thought that that Joey 470 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 6: could have kept it at the criticism of what Mike 471 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 6: had done for Ben and and and it was and 472 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 6: it was a It was a ton both in terms 473 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 6: of helping him get to a second Super Bowl title 474 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 6: and get to a third and allow him and. 475 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: I helping Mike. But okay, yeah, but. 476 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: All that stuff happened on both ends. 477 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 6: I mean, it's not the quarterback when when Mike got 478 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 6: there that he was when we got to the uh, 479 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 6: when we got to the Killer B's era, he was 480 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 6: not that quarterback. 481 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: I mean, for even for the OA Championship. 482 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 6: You look back at eleven to ten, uh, Deshay Townsend 483 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 6: returns an interception for a touchdown to clinch it. Or 484 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 6: the Baltimore road game where Santana Santonio. 485 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: Was barely over the line and all that. 486 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 6: I mean, those were all defense first teams, and and 487 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 6: it wasn't just oh they had a spectacular quarterback. 488 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: I think I think we're gonna I think we're gonna 489 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: off track here, though. 490 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: How do we get these guys to shut up getting 491 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: back on track? 492 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: You don't get him to shut up and here's what. 493 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: Because Jason Kelsey's at the Olympics. That's why. 494 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 6: And we talked about this last week about the whole 495 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 6: podcast phenomena. Everybody wants to be Jason Kelsey. Jason Kelsey 496 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 6: a fine offensive lineman, a star as much as you 497 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 6: can be a star as an offensive lineman, a star 498 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 6: offensive lineman. But he and his brother became a money 499 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 6: machine because of a podcast. So now everybody thinks they 500 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 6: can be that person, and some of them might be. 501 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: Who knows. And when Stephen Thompson went off, and is 502 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: that his name. 503 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 6: No, Stephen Nelson went off, I barely remembered him as 504 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 6: a player. 505 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: I didn't know he had a podcast. I barely remembered 506 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 3: that he played for the Steelers. So but he's got 507 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: a podcast. 508 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 6: Like, like I said, it's everybody's trying to be Jason Kelsey. 509 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 6: To an extent, Travis is already a superstar Hall of Famer. 510 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: Jason was a really good player and won a couple 511 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 3: of Super Bowls. But because of the brothers and all 512 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: of that. 513 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: Well, the success of that podcast, though, can be directly 514 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: traced to Travis Kelcey being Taylor Swift's boyfriend. 515 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: If it wasn't like that. Quite possibly, it would not 516 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: be nearly the demand. 517 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 6: You don't know what's gonna hit in that space. I mean, 518 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 6: Joe Rogan is a superstar. McAfee is a superstar in 519 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 6: that space, and they make a. 520 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: Ton of money. 521 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 6: So if I were one of them, I don't I 522 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 6: would get why you would take a swing at it. 523 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 2: But no, no, I get it. But it's gone too far. 524 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: Now you have Zach Banner, you. 525 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: Know, who's a useless slump of fat flesh declaring himself 526 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: to be in the media. 527 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: My god, I mean, where's it stop? 528 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: But I will say this, here's the one guy who's involved. 529 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: It's in a different space mic and it's Cam Hayward, 530 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: who didn't say anything but sat there like a lump 531 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: when Porter ripped Ben. So I'm concluding that Hayward feels 532 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: the same way about Ben. 533 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter. Ben's not on the team anymore. 534 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: Heyward is. 535 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: But if I'm the Steelers, I tell Hayward to shut 536 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: down that podcast. He's an active player. That podcast is 537 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: what started all this distraction. 538 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's fair. I mean, the Steelers. It 539 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: depends on what his con trek says. 540 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 6: I mean, you can't tell them necessarily to shut it 541 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 6: down if. 542 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: Well they don't have they told Rogers, They told Rogers 543 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: do not do McAfee very quietly, but I think they 544 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: that's would. 545 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: Have been quested that. 546 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 6: I think they requested that and that, and he wanted 547 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 6: to do the job enough that he was willing to 548 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 6: do it, whereas Cam they just re upped him again 549 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 6: and the podcast had not been problematic or a distraction 550 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 6: until now. 551 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: So I think they could. 552 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 6: You could want them to do that, and it could 553 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 6: be the prudent move, but that I don't know that 554 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 6: they would have the contractual ability to do that. 555 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think they should at least bring it up 556 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: because I would love for the vaunted team leader to 557 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: actually function as a team leader before his career is over. Mike, 558 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: what's your take on the Tyson versus Mayweather fight fifty 559 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: nine years old versus forty eight? 560 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 561 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, boxing has lost a lot of appeal for me 562 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 6: because of stuff like this. 563 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 3: Jake Paul, whoever. 564 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: He is an an Jake Paul ruined boxing. He became 565 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: the focal point of boxing despite not being a real boxer. 566 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: That ruined boxing. 567 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it. 568 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 6: It has lost a ton of appeal. And when you 569 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 6: see things like this and and people pay for things 570 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 6: like this and the and these athletes often make a 571 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 6: lot of money as a result of this, I think 572 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 6: it diminishes the sport further, and that the athletes who 573 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 6: who box. I covered boxing for the Pittsburgh Press for 574 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 6: a decade or close to a decade and covered a 575 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 6: lot of huge fights, uh involving people uh Thomas Hearn's, Sugar, 576 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 6: Ray Leonard. 577 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: I covered Mike, Mike Tyson, Michael Spain. 578 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: So that's part of That's part of my point. Mike, 579 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't even know who the heavyweight champion is now. 580 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: It's just lost its profile. And Jake Paul very opportunistically 581 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: took took over and he's making a lot of money. 582 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 1: But I don't think that always justify, certainly not in 583 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: this case. 584 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 6: It's the you know, the the state athletic commissions don't 585 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 6: have the control that they should have over this. 586 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: They should be able to. 587 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 6: Say more just you know, more firmly who is entitled 588 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 6: to fight as as as I mean they were, that 589 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 6: was the whole idea. 590 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they they would just do what Tyson Mayweather 591 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: do and they'd go someplace like the Congo. 592 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but that's part of the problem, is 593 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 6: that you just don't have firm control of the sport. 594 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 6: And anybody that wants to do this can do it 595 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 6: and call it boxing, and and it has diminished the sport. 596 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 6: And I look, I don't I'm not surprised by Tyson 597 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 6: and and Mayweather do. I'm somewhat surprised by Mayweather because 598 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 6: I mean, my goodness, if he doesn't have money left, 599 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 6: what was he doing right? If he doesn't have enough 600 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 6: money now, I mean, the guys made it like a 601 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 6: billion dollars in the ring. 602 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: Practically, he better have money left. 603 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 604 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: The Jake Paul thing that really bugs me, and not 605 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: least because I think his fights are somewhat worked. I 606 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: can't prove it, but it looks like it to me, 607 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: Like like Tyson and Jake Paul, which I did not 608 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: watch live but I saw clips of it, looked to 609 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: me like Tyson wasn't going going all out. Now, maybe 610 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: his age he can't go all out, but I think 611 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: the Jake Paul fights are designed for him to win 612 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: through whatever means. 613 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 6: I don't take them seriously seriously as athletic competitions. I'll 614 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 6: say that I've never watched him fight, so I can't 615 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 6: make a comment about how it looks, but I don't 616 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 6: take them seriously as athletic competition. So you want to 617 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 6: be a fighter, go as much problem as much as 618 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 6: much problem as I have with the various sanctioning bodies. 619 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: It's fighting boxing. 620 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 6: If you're if you're being sanctioned by them, if you're 621 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 6: just going out there and staging a event and putting 622 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 6: it on pay per view, it's not necessarily uh. 623 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: In that vein. 624 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: Let's say Kurt Angler or brock Lessner in his prime, 625 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: or Conor McGregor in his prime fought Alie or Tyson 626 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: or I don't know, Foyd mayweatherever you want to put 627 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: in their prime, and each guy could do his thing, 628 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: no limitations on what they could do. 629 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: Who wins, Well, the. 630 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 6: The the mm A fighter is gonna win every time 631 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 6: because exactly they have they have no rules. If you 632 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 6: made if if if you made the the mm A 633 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 6: fighter fight under Marcus Queensberry rules that that that person's 634 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 6: gonna have a hard time because they're not used to it. 635 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 6: If you tried to convert the boxer into MM a style. 636 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 6: They're not going to know all the holds and and 637 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 6: all of that. 638 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: That's that's my point. 639 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: I think the wrestler, the grappler is going to take 640 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: the guy down, stretch him, and tap him every time, 641 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: every single time. 642 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. It's not. 643 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: It's it's a different style of combat, without a doubt. 644 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 6: And that's and they and they don't claim to be 645 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 6: anything but that. And it's why when McGregor and Mayweather 646 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 6: fought that it was problematic because again they're they're not 647 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 6: really It's like saying, who's a better athlete and then 648 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 6: you play Michael Jordan against uh uh, Let's say he 649 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 6: put him in against Randy Johnson, and well, you know, 650 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 6: we saw what Michael Johnson. 651 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: Jordan was as a baseball player. 652 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 6: Still fantastic athlete, but he wasn't a great baseball player. 653 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: And that's kind of the same thing as what you're 654 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: talking about, right. 655 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: But I remember they made McGregor box strictly boxed pretty much, 656 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: and I thought he gave a credible accounting. 657 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 3: Oh he did he. 658 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 6: I mean, he's a great athlete and so he's going 659 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 6: to present himself well. But he was also wasn't fighting 660 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 6: thirty year old Roger Mayweather. I mean he wasn't fighting 661 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 6: the great he was. Yeah, excuse me, Floyd Maywer, Roger 662 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 6: was his dad. My bad that that happens when you 663 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 6: get to hear you know Floyd Floyd. 664 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: Floyd was a phenomenal. 665 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 6: Fighter in his prime, maybe the greatest ever, certainly in 666 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 6: the conversation for that. And McGregor didn't have to face 667 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 6: that person. And if he had to box that person, 668 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 6: I think he would have had a lot of trouble. 669 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 6: But the advanced Mayweather in age, it was going to be. 670 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 6: It was going to be different. And I did think 671 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 6: that McGregor did a good job. But in that case, 672 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 6: it was doing a good job against a guy who 673 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 6: was not in his prime. 674 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: Mike is always great stuff. We'll do it again next week. 675 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: Sounds great, Mark, thank you. 676 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: That's Mike. The course he brought to us by South 677 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: will Quia. We got Paul's ice at the top of 678 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: the hour.