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Speaker 1: It's Night's Tide with Dan Ray.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you at Boston's News Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back everyone, as we move into our

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Speaker 1: fourth and final hour here on a Monday night. It

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Speaker 1: is December twenty second. Just a couple of reminders. Tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: we will end my broadcast year. I've done this now

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Speaker 1: for thirteen years. We do what we call the Night

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Speaker 1: Side Charity Combine, and we have twenty really interesting charities,

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Speaker 1: a variety of different charities. I think if you listen

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night, depending upon where you live and what is

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Speaker 1: what charity might interest you, you might find a charity

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Speaker 1: that you'd like to volunteer for, or you might find

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Speaker 1: a charity that you'd like to support financially. Big charities,

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Speaker 1: small charities, well known charities, lesser known charities.

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Speaker 3: They're all all from New England.

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Speaker 1: A couple of a couple of years we have charities

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Speaker 1: actually from outside of New England, but these are all

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Speaker 1: New England based charity. So we will start at ten

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Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow night and we will actually introduce you to

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Speaker 1: twenty charities, a few of which you may know about,

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Speaker 1: but there's no one out there's going to know about

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Speaker 1: all twenty of the charities, and no matter what your

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Speaker 1: interest might be, I think you'll find several that will

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Speaker 1: be of interest to you. So that's tomorrow night from

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Speaker 1: ten to twelve, and again that is my last show,

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Speaker 1: the night's id show of the broadcast year. I will

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Speaker 1: be back on the other side of January after New

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Speaker 1: Year's and I will have a few days off to recharge.

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Speaker 3: And refuel and retool, and I'll.

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Speaker 1: Be ready to go sometime in early January. And I

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Speaker 1: hope you'll be back and up keep on the outlook

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Speaker 1: for me when we get back. Now, a couple of

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Speaker 1: things I'd like to talk to you about. A week

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Speaker 1: ago tonight, we were dealing with the shooting at Brown,

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Speaker 1: and of course the murder that occurred a week ago

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Speaker 1: now has been clarified, and today Brown's president has placed

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Speaker 1: the police chief on leave as the Trump administration launches

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Speaker 1: their investigation of Brown. The Department of Education is initiating

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Speaker 1: a review of Brown's determined if it has upheld its

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Speaker 1: obligation under the law to vigially maintain campus security. You

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Speaker 1: will read this story in the newspapers tomorrow. Most of

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Speaker 1: these students have left and gone home for the Christmas

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Speaker 1: holiday In the New Year's holiday, the president of Brown,

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Speaker 1: Christina Paxton, who did not cover herself in much glory

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Speaker 1: Really out there and very on shore, has placed the

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Speaker 1: campus police chief on leave and is replacing him on

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Speaker 1: an interim basis with retired Colonel Hugh T. Clements, Junior,

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Speaker 1: the former Providence police chief. According to a letter that

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Speaker 1: she sent to Brown University, Clements will serve as Brown's

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Speaker 1: interim vice president of public Safety, a role held by

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Speaker 1: considered the Brown police chief. Again, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any suggestion that the police chief,

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Speaker 1: at the time something happened. The university faced additional scrutiny Monday,

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Speaker 1: according to the Boston Globe story tomorrow, after a custodian

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Speaker 1: mention that back in August, the union representing Brown's ten

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Speaker 1: campus police sergeants issued a vote of no confidence in

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Speaker 1: Association represents forty other employees, issued it's own vote of

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Speaker 1: no confidence in Chapman and Vincent in October. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about the death. The death of a

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Speaker 1: it was less than a minute. It was well less

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Speaker 1: There's been no arrests, there's been no charges, no indictments.

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Speaker 3: It's a mess. It's a mess.

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Speaker 1: We invited the Suffolk County District Attorney tonight to join

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Speaker 1: the implication with that was that she could be here

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Speaker 1: another night. So Superintendent, if you're listening, you are more

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Speaker 1: than welcome to come in any night. We have one

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Speaker 1: hour open tomorrow night at nine o'clock. If you were

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Speaker 1: have you take some phone calls from parents here in Boston.

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Speaker 1: So what I'm going to do is going to open

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Speaker 1: up the lines on the Lynz Joseph story, which we

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Speaker 1: did at nine o'clock, and if folks want to talk

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Speaker 1: about that, great light it up right now. Six one, seven, two, five,

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Speaker 1: been eight months virtually. We're within a few days of

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Speaker 1: the anniversary January February, March. April was April twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: so it's eight months ago that this little five year

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Speaker 1: The driver obviously was having a very bad day for

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Speaker 1: As I said at nine, and I'll say it again,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that this situation would have dragged on

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Speaker 1: A boy that is dead, there's no question about that,

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Speaker 1: the bus. Where's the responsibility? Where's the mayor? Where's the

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Speaker 1: school superintendent? Where are the city councilors? Why is there

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Speaker 1: not an outrage? It's been eight months.

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Speaker 3: Great peace in the globe today. If you get a

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Speaker 1: It, it's written by John Hilliard, and he has been

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Speaker 1: not lose interest in this story, because if it was

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Speaker 1: not only over what happened to this little boy, but

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Speaker 3: If you want to talk about that down now or for.

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Speaker 1: Well until we come at it again, hold your piece. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and we know not much more about this than what

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Speaker 1: the Globe has reported, and we have talked about Nightside

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Speaker 1: coming back right after this. You're on Nights Side with

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Speaker 3: Now, there is a pretty big controversy which erupted last night.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if any of you have an interest

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Speaker 1: it involves a former colleague of mine, Sharon Alfonsi. She

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Speaker 1: last night following the football games. You know, this time

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Speaker 1: of year, the football games just get longer and longer.

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Speaker 1: There's still sixty minute football games, but there's more commercial

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Speaker 1: I guess this piece that she had put together dealing

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Speaker 1: And Sharon, who I know. I used to work with

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Speaker 1: thrust of the piece was that the Sea Coot prison

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Speaker 1: Michael Grinbaum, the decision by Wise to basically hold the

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Speaker 1: story has drawn harsh criticism from Alphonsi herself. When CBS

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Speaker 1: CBS attorneys and standards and Practices. Wrote in the note,

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Speaker 1: a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times,

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Speaker 1: it is factually correct.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Dan. I would like to know your wisdom, understanding,

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Speaker 4: Dan. My feeling is that the Republican is socking it

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Speaker 4: to the middle class and poor people. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if I'm wrong or not. What's your opinion.

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Speaker 1: I think that's you got to you got to come

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Speaker 1: to that decision yourself. I have told you what I believe,

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Speaker 1: I think I've I've called it down the middle as

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Speaker 1: to what's going on, and we're going to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of conversation about that after January, Joe, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know where you're going to come out on it.

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Speaker 3: But you're a good listener. You you're loyal to this program.

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Speaker 1: I know you read stories, get as much information as

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Speaker 1: you can, and then let's see where it, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know where it comes out of the Endy.

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Speaker 4: I always appreciate your input.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, Joe. I appreciate your calls. Merry Christmas, Joe, right

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Speaker 3: back yet you damn thanks Joe. Let's keep rolling.

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Speaker 1: Here're going to go to my friend Patrick down in

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Speaker 1: the district of Columbia where it's all happening. Patrick, what's

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Speaker 1: going on down there? I know that you are a

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Speaker 1: denizen of the district. Is it safer in Washington? Is that?

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Speaker 3: What's the feel in the in the city down there

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm a smart guy. I'm not going in there

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Speaker 7: because the city will find some way to get you.

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Speaker 7: I will wait until after New Year's and go in

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Speaker 7: and take a look around. This is the time of

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Speaker 7: the year that I kind of stay out of it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 7: It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that it's the city government that

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Speaker 7: really gets on my nurves. Okay, you can't trust the

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Speaker 7: city government, but I think.

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Speaker 6: Within there was this, there was an email of it

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Speaker 6: that I expressed to you.

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Speaker 7: About a DC police officer who was ambushed and shot

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Speaker 7: and he didn't wait for the for the rescue. He

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Speaker 7: drove him else as a hospital. You know, So I

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Speaker 7: don't want to get injured in Washington, DC because I

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Speaker 7: don't I'm really concerned about the nine to one to

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Speaker 7: one situation.

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Speaker 3: Refresh my recollection. When did that shooting was a police.

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Speaker 7: It was back Oh gosh, maybe in worth two thousands,

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Speaker 7: but it's never okay.

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Speaker 1: Well that that's a while ago, and uh, you know

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Speaker 1: now I know that I know that they were the

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Speaker 1: two West Virginia National guardsmen, the woman who who was

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Speaker 1: shot and killed and the male, uh, member of the

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Speaker 1: guard of the West Virginia Guard who is still recovering.

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Speaker 3: But it sounds like he is a long way to go.

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Speaker 1: That was an assassination attempt where the guy drove across

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Speaker 1: the country.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get a sense of is the

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Speaker 3: feel of the city is it different at this point

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Speaker 3: or no?

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Speaker 1: You know, the Trump administration and the President himself is

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Speaker 1: making claims that, oh, it's much safer. But I would

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Speaker 1: rely upon people like you Patrick and others who you

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Speaker 1: know occasionally are in the city.

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Speaker 7: I would say it's borderline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's just borderline.

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Speaker 2: It really hasn't.

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Speaker 6: The feel hasn't worked itself out well.

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Speaker 3: After the.

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Speaker 1: Kind if after the first of the year, Patrick, you'd

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Speaker 1: be kind enough to go in and take a swing

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Speaker 1: through the city and tell me what you say, don't

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Speaker 1: put yourself in danger.

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Speaker 3: But I'd like, why I do.

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Speaker 7: I do my tour duties regularly, just so I so

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Speaker 7: I know what to do, Okay. I like to get

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Speaker 7: my pulse of the city, What's what's going on? Because

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Speaker 7: there's nobody like myself. And I'll tell you who knows

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Speaker 7: the ins and outs and back Alice and that knows

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Speaker 7: how to get around Washington, d C. Faster than anybody else,

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Speaker 7: you know. But I don't want to run into a

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Speaker 7: situation no one does.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Keep us posted, okay, keep us posting, all right? Thanks Patrick?

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Speaker 1: All right, Merry Christmas Palko.

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Speaker 3: Let me go to Matt in Florida. Hey, Matt, it's

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Speaker 3: been a while. How are you?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Pretty depressed? Honestly, I I as you know, I voted

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Speaker 6: for Trump and I've just been so disappointed in this guy.

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Speaker 6: He's a complete, I mean, narcissist. And all he's done

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Speaker 6: is lie and outside of the immigration thing, which I

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Speaker 6: thought he's done a great job on, he's he's just

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Speaker 6: been a total disaster.

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Speaker 4: Dan.

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Speaker 3: You know, okay, hold on, hold on. I'm not a

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Speaker 3: Trump guy, but I just today.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna tell me how we lowered gas prices like

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Speaker 6: ten cents? Oh big whoop? Oh everything's great. You know

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Speaker 6: that's what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: No, but I go, well, I'll tell you this. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to ask you what a gas price is in

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Speaker 1: Florida today?

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Speaker 3: And where were they? You know, who cares?

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Speaker 6: Who cares? Who cares when soda is is for ten? Down? Here? Dan,

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Speaker 6: four dollars for a twenty ounce? Come on, spot for

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Speaker 6: the gas price?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Whoa, whoa, wah Wait a second? Hold on, okay,

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Speaker 1: hold on. Four dollars and ten cents for a.

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Speaker 6: Twenty or twenty ounce of coke. You drink diet cokes.

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Speaker 3: I don't drink from a diet Pepsi guy.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this at what at what twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour store are you buying twenty eleven?

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Speaker 3: Why are you going in?

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Have you ever heard

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Speaker 1: of what we call supermarkets? They have places down there.

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Speaker 1: I know because I've been in them called Dixie, and

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Speaker 1: you go in and you can get a case of

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Speaker 1: that probably for I don't know, ten bucks, I can

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Speaker 1: get a case.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to. I don't want a case. I

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Speaker 6: just want want twenty ounce every day.

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Speaker 1: Well that's fine, then then you're gonna pay if you

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Speaker 1: go into a seven eleven. You do know prices in

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Speaker 1: seven elevens and convenience stores. That's why they call them

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Speaker 1: convenience stores.

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Speaker 6: Man, they weren't a year ago. A year ago, they

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Speaker 6: were you know, about two bucks a ball. Now it's

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Speaker 6: almost photo dolls. And you don't watch a Reese's peanut

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Speaker 6: butter cups is just two of them. It's like three dollars, Dan,

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Speaker 6: it's like three go to go to go to what

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Speaker 6: store up there? I guarantee it's like these things used

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Speaker 6: to be seventy nine cents for for two peanut and

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Speaker 6: a couple.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let me ask you.

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Speaker 6: I'm just not happy about what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Oh I look, it's clear to me, and you have

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Speaker 3: every right that's affects you personally. I get it.

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Speaker 1: I totally get it. You talk about Trump did a

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Speaker 1: pretty good job. At immigration. Okay, that's fine, your problem. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how's the Middle East going right now? Good? Bad?

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Speaker 3: Are indifferent?

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Speaker 6: It's pretty seems like it's pretty much the same it's been. Honestly, really,

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Speaker 6: how let me ask you this, he did a better

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Speaker 6: job last time. He's he did a better job last time.

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Speaker 6: He was actually wiping people out. He was just kind of,

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Speaker 6: you know, playkating to everybody over there, who's our enemies?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, let me ask you this, how's the Iranian nuclear

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Speaker 3: program going these days?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know. I haven't been over there.

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Speaker 4: Have you been there?

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't know. Reports I read newspapers. I read

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Speaker 3: the reports. Well, I read the New York Times and and.

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Speaker 1: And and they wiped out they took a nuclear power

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Speaker 1: off the stage, you know, I mean, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Look, I understand Reese's pieces are important, but

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Speaker 1: you got to look at the Iranian nuclear power thing,

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Speaker 1: because if they got the bomb, it wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: take long before old Israel was going to disappear racist pieces.

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Speaker 1: There would be no way to buy recist pieces.

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Speaker 6: This country seems to be more concerned with Israel first

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Speaker 6: than America first. To be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm concerned. I'm concerned with Israel, and I'm concerned

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Speaker 3: with the fact that those nut jobs.

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Speaker 6: Run healthcare over there. They got three healthcare over there. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: we got people over here on the streets. You know,

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Speaker 6: many of those people wait.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa wasting mah man. Just beer with

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Speaker 1: me here, Okay, you want to keep moving around, we'll

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Speaker 1: move around. Many of those people who are on the

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Speaker 1: streets are mentally ill. They they believe they want to

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Speaker 1: live on the streets. I know doctors up here who

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Speaker 1: go around Boston at night trying to find and treat

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Speaker 1: people who are mentally who were mentally ill.

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Speaker 3: We were about.

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Speaker 1: Thirty years ago, said we got a great idea, let's

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Speaker 1: take all of these institutions where people are housed and

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Speaker 1: let's just put them back on the streets.

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Speaker 6: That was a huge Yeah, that was in the eighties

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Speaker 6: when Reagan cut all that funding. Reagan got rid of

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Speaker 6: all the mental institutions. Now they're all out on the streets.

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Speaker 6: So that's some are Republican leadership there. That's not accurate.

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Speaker 1: That's not accurate, But that's fine. Mike us Mike Dukoncis.

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Speaker 1: But Dork Ducock, you were around at that time. Mike

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Speaker 1: Doucoccus led that I.

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Speaker 3: Was about four years old, that you weren't born when

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Speaker 3: Washington was president. But you know, George, you read history.

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Speaker 6: Come on, can quick thing ahead? One more quick thing.

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Speaker 6: Did you hear Trump Trump lie about how his his

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Speaker 6: uncle John Trump at M I T taught them. Do

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Speaker 6: you hear about this? He said? He Trump though that

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Speaker 6: he Trump?

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Speaker 3: You do know Trump's a narcissist. You do know the

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Speaker 3: Trump exaggerates, uh.

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Speaker 6: Consequential thing.

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Speaker 3: As you know the un Obama went to Harvard correct.

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Speaker 1: Not to m I T.

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 6: You know the story. I mean, you're gonna admit that's

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Speaker 6: that's outrageous story. Why are you gonna lie about something

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Speaker 6: like that? Wasn't them until after his uncle died ten

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Speaker 6: years before? Dan, I love the show.

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Speaker 3: I love it right back at Merry Christmas. We'll come

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Speaker 3: back right after the break.

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Speaker 1: I got Gail coming up and Charlie and Saugust and

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Speaker 1: uh buckle up, everybody coming back on that side.

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Speaker 6: It's night Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's

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Speaker 6: news radio.

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Speaker 3: Let me go to my friend Geo and ready, Hey, GEO. Welcome, sir.

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Speaker 3: How are you go? Right ahead?

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Speaker 6: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Someone recently confused the words regarding Trump transitional president and

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Speaker 2: transactional president. And in the nineteen seventies when I was

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Speaker 2: going to conventions in Atlantic City, Donald Trump was known

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Speaker 2: as mystic five percent. And that's how he's conducting his presidency.

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Speaker 2: He's now selling Nvidia chips to China, which we were

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Speaker 2: never supposed to do. That was the final straw.

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Speaker 4: We might.

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Speaker 2: Not have had Trump as a president because he's prevented nothing.

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Speaker 2: In fact, by most of his actions are tending to

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Speaker 2: push Europe into the arms of Russia and China and India.

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Speaker 2: And it's everything he's doing is resulting in the United

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Speaker 2: States being diminished day after day after day. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I want to say before I go, I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about fentanyl. Fentanyl is a legal drug for the

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Speaker 2: last forty years in the United States. It's used in

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Speaker 2: emergency rooms, it's used in emergency vehicles, it's used in

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Speaker 2: cancer wards. So is it morphine, Jill, But nobody's complaining

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Speaker 2: about morphine or saying that morphine is the reason that

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Speaker 2: we're in Venezuela. You do know, you do know that

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Speaker 2: you let me finish Dan.

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Speaker 3: Well, George, you can. But here's the thing, George, every

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Speaker 3: time you call, you just want to make a speech.

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Speaker 3: I like to have a conversation. You've been on for

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Speaker 3: a minute. In forty five.

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Speaker 2: Seconds, allow me to make a point before we can

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Speaker 2: have a car.

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Speaker 3: How many points do you want to make?

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Speaker 2: Sentinyl is made by Johnson and Johnson. It's called the

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Speaker 2: Durogesic patch. And you open the envelope and it says,

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Speaker 2: take out the patch the patient has a traumatic pain

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Speaker 2: in his hip. A piece of the patch and put

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Speaker 2: it on the patient.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So the implication of what you're saying, geom.

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Speaker 2: To monitor Geo, Geo.

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Speaker 1: The implication of what you're saying is fentanyl is not

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Speaker 1: killing Americans? Is that what I'm supposed to believe from

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Speaker 1: what you're telling me?

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Speaker 2: Pot and panned cooked fentanyl has many impurities which kill people,

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Speaker 2: and it's also mixed with all kinds of other if

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Speaker 2: you're doing the killing.

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Speaker 1: Look, I've had fentanyl prescribed to me when I've had

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Speaker 1: some surgical procedure uh as a as A as an anesthesis.

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Speaker 2: So you have met until now, you have never admitted

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Speaker 2: that it's a legitimate pharmaceutical. I have made you honest

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Speaker 2: in this last minute.

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Speaker 3: Well no, no, no, no, First of all, it is

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Speaker 3: so is it morphine?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Dan Jan, you're engaging in rationalization total.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying desperately, Geo, to engage in a conversation with you.

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Speaker 1: Last year, last year, there were approximately seventy thousand Americans,

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Speaker 1: many of them under the age of forty, who died

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Speaker 1: from a fentanyl overdose. Because fentanyl is sent from China

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Speaker 1: to Mexico, manufactured in Mexico, and brought over as an

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Speaker 1: illicit drug.

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Speaker 2: They died because when you start to monitor the person's respiration,

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Speaker 2: their breathing, and their heartbeat, what pentanyl does is it

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Speaker 2: interferes with the transfer of electrons from your nerve. Ending

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Speaker 2: You're brilliant.

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Speaker 3: You're brilliant. But tell that to a kid who just spoke.

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Speaker 3: Turn him down. Turn him down, Geo.

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Speaker 1: Tell that to the parents of a kid who smoked

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Speaker 1: a marijuana cigarette which was laced with fentanyl. Explain it

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Speaker 1: to them. Gotta go give them the plank. Good night, Geo,

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Speaker 1: Charlie and Saugust, I wish you had called earlier.

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Speaker 3: I would have got you in. But I'm done I'm

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Speaker 3: done for the night, back tomorrow night and I'm in

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Speaker 3: fighting shape.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Rob, beg you Karen who sent me. Thank

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Speaker 1: all of you, call the Gluey Geo, those of you

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Speaker 1: who particularly wanted to gage you in a conversation. All dogs,

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Speaker 1: all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's why Pal.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's

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Speaker 3: why your pets are who passed. They love you, You

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Speaker 3: love them. You'll see them again, hopes he'd get tomorrow

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Speaker 3: night and night's out. I will be on Facebook Nightside

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Speaker 3: with Dan Ray in just a couple of moments, and

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about tonight