WEBVTT - War Casualties 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:05.400 The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:10.400 Show on a wonderful, wonderful Wednesday, all up day. I'm 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.319 actually gonna talk about something I've touched on before on 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.079 the show. One of my favorite historical subjects. We're gonna 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.439 touch on that for a minute because I want to 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.920 get away from politics. I'm gonna talk about the forgotten American. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.720 We'll talk about foundational principles of the Communists when it 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.280 comes to illegals versus Americans and other things. All that 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.520 and so much more coming up tonight on the world 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.159 famous Jesse Kelly Show. So I wanted to get to 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:40.360 this and why because I want to. It's obviously not 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.760 in the news. I got. The subject to this one 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:51.360 is MACKV Sog Historical Oracle. Recently, while watching a documentary 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:57.280 of Vietnam, they briefly mentioned a unit called MACV SOG. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.880 I was intrigued by this, as they describe it as 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.440 the ultimate special forces unit. I had never heard of 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.640 it before, so I did a little Wikipedia. It didn't 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.920 tell me much. I was wondering if you could delve 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.520 into them a little bit and let us know who 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.520 they were, what they did, and if they're still around. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.240 I'm betting a lot of your listening audience has never 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.240 heard of them either, says I can say his name. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.920 His name is George. Well, George. If what I'm about 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:32.280 to get into very briefly, if it fascinates you, you 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.080 should know that I've done. I did a long history 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:40.520 show on MACV SOG once before, and I'm here to 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.280 tell you a couple really really cool things. You're ready, 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.080 I have two bits of good news for you. First 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:52.080 bit of good news is they intrigue you. The more 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.720 you read about them, the better it is. You start 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:01.640 reading about MACV SOG, you will not stop. And I 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:07.000 have a second bit of good news for you. Well, actually, 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.520 first of all, if you want to read my long 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:15.520 take on it, thank you Chris on November thirteenth, twenty 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:20.040 twenty three. So it was a few years ago, November thirteenth, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:25.520 twenty twenty three, in hour two I did an entire 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.920 hour on MACV song. But that wasn't the other bit 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.679 of good news. That was just something Chris told me. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.040 If you want to hear me talk about it, you 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.679 can go listen and I'll tell you some more in 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.239 a moment. But here's the other bit of good news. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:42.160 This is a Vietnam story. What they did was so 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.440 insanely classified in top secret that they were years and 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.959 years and years for virtually all of my life. Most 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.960 of my life, I should say, no one knew really 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:56.200 what it was because it couldn't talk about it. They 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.959 have since been allowed to discuss it in recent years, 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.400 and they are out there, the ones who survived and 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:09.000 are still alive. They are out there on the podcast 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:14.400 circuit telling their stories. If you're not a podcast person, 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:25.600 totally get that. They write books, incredible books. John Plaster, Chris, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.360 I need you to look this up in confirm. John 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.240 Plaster wrote one, and I believe I think his name 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.400 is John Plaster. He wrote a book called macve SG 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:39.600 and he was in macv SOG and it was so 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.000 so good they called him plastic man. Do I have 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.760 that right? Plastic man? Chris say it again? Do I 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:52.040 have it wrong? It's called SOG but it was John Plaster, right, Okay? 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.160 Jewish producer Chris just looked it up. And I don't 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.360 know John. He's not a friend. I've never met him. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.040 I'd love to meet him. But John Plaster wrote a 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.440 book called saw If What I'm about to say, fascinates you. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:08.839 The book is amazing. Uh Nick broke Housen, Brockhausen, broke 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.800 Housen whatever, He's got a weird last name. He wrote 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.640 two different books, Part one in part two about his 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:20.719 time in Macvie Sag. One was called We Few. That 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.520 was the first one. The second one was called Whispers 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:29.520 in the Tall Grass. Amazing. I mean, I've read, as 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.239 you can tell, I've read a lot of Macv's so books. 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:38.160 I I don't know that I've ever had necessarily heroes, 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.040 I should say, like a specific hero. I'm gonna be 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.920 that guy. That kind of a thing. The macv Saw 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:49.640 guys are as close as heroes to me as anybody 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.920 I've ever read about, and that includes guys in World 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.480 War Two and everything else. That's how amazing I find 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.240 these people to be. You know how I've told you 0:04:56.240 --> 0:05:00.440 about pure Talk many many times before, and I tell 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:07.440 you their veteran led, their CEO, Reggie MacFee sau two tours. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.640 This is this is anyway anyway. So here's the deal. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:18.839 Here's the Vietnam deal. Right, So there's Vietnam, and then 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.680 beside Vietnam, just no, beside it all right, it's to 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:27.080 the west. But beside Vietnam there are two countries, Laos 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.800 and Cambodia. Okay. The Ho Chi Minh Trail which you 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.800 have heard of, was not one trail. It was a 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.680 spiderweb of roads and trails and whatever, and it was 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:43.839 used by North Vietnam to get men and materials down 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.680 into South Vietnam. It was used as a feeder line 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.400 to move men and materials into the war. It didn't 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.240 take long for us to figure out that's what was happening. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.279 How are these guys getting these kind of munitions here, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.280 How are they getting reinforcements here? How are they feeding this? 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.159 And then we started looking into it and it was, 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:11.320 oh my gosh, there there's an entire highway system in 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.200 these two countries. Now, for a lot of different legal 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.640 reasons at the time, we couldn't just send in the 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:23.280 Marines to take over these places. These are separate countries, 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:29.800 not Vietnam. So we came up with a plan. We 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:34.080 took green berets. There were Navy seals. It was honestly 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.400 mostly green berets, but there were Navy seals of course involved. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.360 They did a lot too. I don't want to put 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.080 down their service. There were some Marines involved there, there 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:46.480 were different guys, but we took these super duper super 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:51.080 soldier guys and we would take two or three of them. 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.080 There was only two or three of them, and then 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.640 they would get the numbers varied. A ten man team 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:03.960 of I was gonna call them Vietnamese local troops. I 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.680 don't want to go into the details of it. It's 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:10.080 too it's too detailed. Local people, montaignards and Chinese nuns, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:15.320 people that these troops would train. And then this team, 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.760 the two or three Americans, with their local guys highly trained, 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:26.520 they would throw them behind enemy lines to go locate, 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:32.120 get information on the highway system, kill people, kidnap people 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:37.560 for intelligence, call in airstrikes on supplies. The ultimate. I 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:43.600 mean every movie you've ever seen, every behind enemy lines movie. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.640 It was all from this, all of it. These guys 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:53.640 had the most insanely job, in most insane job. More 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:59.160 than half of them died. I expressed this before when 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.760 I've talked about it. These guys are as close to 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.920 heroes as I have in my life. I am still 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.800 angry with my country for the mission itself. I don't 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:14.960 believe Americans should ever be thrown into a mission where 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.720 more than half of them die unless the country itself 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.520 is at stake, unless we are defending the homeland. I 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.120 do not believe that is justified, but be that it may. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.880 By the way, it was purely volunteer. You could never 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.920 be assigned to it. It was purely volunteer. And I 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:31.640 think it was I'm gonna mess up the numbers, But 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.280 it was John Plaster who wrote in that book song. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.400 He said, look, if you survive, I'm gonna mess these 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.520 numbers up, but I'm close. If you survived ten missions, 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.199 you were pretty lucky. If you got to twelve or thirteen, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.240 you're really really flirting with danger. If you got to fifteen, 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.680 other people in the unit will be looking at you, like, 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:56.120 how is he still alive? You you didn't survive. We 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.400 had whole units go back multiple times, more times than 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.680 you can count, and we never saw them again. They 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:05.720 just disappeared gone because the movies make it look better. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.920 But when you go behind enemy lines, you die. You're 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.840 behind enemy lines. And we had traders of surprise surprise 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:17.240 in South Vietnam who would give the North Vietnamese heads 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.840 up where our guys were gonna get dropped in and 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.080 they'd be waiting for them there and just wipe them out. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.760 If you nerd out on military things, bravery, the jungle, jungle, 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.679 fighting behind enemy lines, any of that. If you like 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.240 when I talked to BK or Clay Martin or any 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.479 of that other stuff. If any of these things fascinate 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:41.120 you at all, go start grabbing everything you can get 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:46.800 your hands on. On Matt V soag and an unbelievably 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.600 secret mission. And by the way, you admire Delta Force. Right, 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.520 the guys who just went down to Venezuela and snatched 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:57.319 up Maduro, you admired Delta Force. Guess how Delta Force started. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.240 MACV saw guys came back to America and they grabbed 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.240 some of the ones who survived and said, we need 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.440 some super secret unit of studs. Tell us how to 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:16.000 do it. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic, 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:20.080 fantastic Wednesday. I'll hof day, all right, I'll give you 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.640 one quick MAC VSG story. Okay, before I get back 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.760 to the politics. I'll give you one. And I got 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:29.640 this one from John Plaster's book SOG. One of the 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.960 bravest men I've ever read about in my life was 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:36.600 a man who's known as Mad Dog Mad Dog Shriver. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.719 If you ever look him up, you'll probably hear him 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.640 labeled as the deadliest man in Vietnam. He was mac 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:48.319 V Sag, of course he was. I mean, I don't 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.400 know what to say. When you would complete a mission, 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.600 if you actually survived, they would give you downtime because 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.320 it was so dangerous. You had to get downtime. On 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.439 this guy's downtime, he'd go jump in with other teamsvolunteer 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:04.920 to go right back. Just who's somebody known to be 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.680 at home in the bush. And they called him mad 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:13.840 Dog And Mad Dog had a dog, a dog that's 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.040 stuck with him at camp. Fast forward. Mad Dog ends 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.120 up dying in combat, of course, charging a machine gun, 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.400 nest or something like that. But it's super brave. But 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.720 before that, Mad Dog had a dog and he loved 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.960 this dog, loved this dog well. At this camp, now, 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.840 this camp's full of green berets and superstuds. At this camp, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.960 they have a little area where you could go get 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.680 a burger and a beer when you're not on a 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.600 mission and things like that. Mad Dog's dog goes into 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.800 that place, gets fed beer, someone feeds a dog beer. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.520 Of course, dog gets sick. Dog poops on the floor. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.679 The guy who gave the dog beer gets a newspaper, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:02.280 whips the dog and tosses him out. Mad dog Shriver 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:07.640 finds out about it, grabs a thirty eight special if 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.880 I remember right, walks right back into that place where 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:17.480 the dog had pooped, takes the thirty eight special, sets 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.440 it down on a table, walks to the middle of 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:27.120 the place, drops his pants, and poops in the middle 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:33.640 of the place. Stands up, buckles up his pants, and says, now, 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.240 if anybody here wants to rub my nose in it 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.200 and whip me with the newspaper, you come on over. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.960 The guy who had whipped his dog was so afraid 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.800 for his life he went and complained to the company commander. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.440 The company command. He was asking him, Hey, can you 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.360 do something about this guy? The company commander laughed in 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.440 his face, said get out, I'm not doing anything about it. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:03.360 Crazy story of the most insane, brave people. All right, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.040 before I get back to emails, I didn't mean to 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.640 get sidetracked there. I just want to dwell on this 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.480 and I've ran it on this stuff before. But record 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.960 share of Americans carry credit card debt and can't pay 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:23.719 monthly bills. This is what I'm passionate about. This is 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.360 what I've always been passionate about. It's what I will 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:30.920 always be passionate about. It is your life. This is 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.880 why I don't rant and rave about foreign policy. This 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.280 is why I don't care but the via this place. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.680 This is why during COVID, why I was so loud 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:45.480 screaming behind the microphone to stop this lockdown insanity. I 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.720 care about normal people and how you live, and that 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.920 you can pay the bills and you can afford to 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.400 go see your mother, and you can afford college, and 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.400 that you could do. This is what I care about. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.720 And I don't like how little I hear about these 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:06.080 people from the people in Congress, Republican and Democrat. Roughly 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:11.160 one hundred and eleven million people, fifty percent of Americans 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.320 with a credit card, and roughly forty percent of the 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:20.120 US adult population carry credit credit card debt, according to 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.360 a joint report from the Century Foundation. This story is 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:28.200 from CBS News. Fifty percent of Americans who have a 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:32.120 credit card are paying twenty some percent interest every single 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.560 month because they can't pay the credit card off. Chris 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.760 sends a hire Yeah, I know, it's look, buddy, I 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:43.560 was being nice. This is my concern. I do not 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:58.880 concern myself with what goes on in Canada, Mexico, Ukraine, Russia, China, Japan, Israel, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Madagascar. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.520 This is my concern and it angers me to no 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:09.320 end that this is not the concern the main concern 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:14.080 I hear about from Republicans and Democrats in Washington, DC. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.800 I understand there are other things beyond the lives of 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.440 Americans that America has to deal with. I get that. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.400 I'm not naive. Foreign policy is part of everything. I 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:27.280 understand that. But let me ask you something. Whoever your 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.960 favorite politician is, and I'm asking you about your favorite one, 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:36.240 your favorite politician, how often do they discuss things like 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:44.280 this versus things overseas? How often? Because I pay attention 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.160 to this stuff for a living, and it seems like 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:51.760 every time I turn around, there's something being discussed that's 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.760 not your life and your bills and the fact that 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.760 people have to make ends meet, and people have watched 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:03.480 their standard of living disappear over the last five years. 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.000 It started when we shut down the country for a 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.400 bad chest cold, and they haven't stopped spending money, and 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.840 they don't necessarily seem all that interested in making sure 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.840 you can get back to the standard of living you 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.200 had four or five years ago. And it freaking chaps 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:24.160 me so badly. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:29.200 a magnificent Wednesday. If you missed any part of the show, 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:34.400 you can download at iHeart Spotify iTunes Hey Jesse as 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.560 Patty Wan anti communist Trump in question. I have a 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:45.480 moral question, Chris, what's Paddy Paddawan? What is that Star 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:50.120 Wars thing? All right? Someone dumped their household trash in 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.440 my garbage can at my residence. I went through it 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.760 and located a work timesheet for a suspect in the 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:03.120 illegal dumping slash have to service incident, knowing that it 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.159 is a low level misdemeter of fence in Texas and 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.880 that law enforcement is limited on what they can do. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.520 Was it wrong of me to file an official complaint 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.560 with the corporate headquarters for the subject listed on the 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.879 time sheet they left in my trash can? Because it 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:25.359 felt amazing when I did it, all right, and all seriousness, 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:34.840 So I have this thing. Bob hates it. And I 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.520 I'll talk to you about it before. But I have 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.919 this thing. Here's something I do, and I actually have 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.480 many things like this. I'm sad to say, but this 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:52.000 is something I do. I'm conscious of the people around 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.880 me and how my conduct may or may not be 0:17:55.960 --> 0:18:00.240 affecting people around me. I'm so conscious of this. When 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:04.359 we were parents of small children, our children were not 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.719 allowed to act up in the restaurant. It was just 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:11.359 not allowed. You would straighten your butt up, or we 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.680 would go to the bathroom and have a chat. And 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.440 you know, you can teach them when they're very young, 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.359 they have to straighten up, and they straighten up. I 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.600 will not allow my life in the things I'm doing 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.640 if I can help it to disrupt the lives of others. 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.879 I'm conscious of that. But there is a type of 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:37.040 person in our society. They never consider other people. I'm 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:42.199 sure it's an upbringing thing. They only think about themselves 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:47.119 at all times. Whatever they're doing, it's only them. There's 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.480 no one else in the world that matters. And you 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.040 know how you can tell one of these people. They 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:58.240 get on their phone in public around other people. They 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:03.879 do FaceTime calls, they get on speakerphones, in restaurants in 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:08.480 the airport. By the way, speaking of parents in restaurants, 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.480 I totally get letting your kids play on an iPad 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.880 or a phone or something like that. Totally get that. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.800 Life's hard, it's hectic. You want to be able to 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:20.280 go out to eat. Turn the freaking volume down. I 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.159 don't want to hear your kid playing Angry Birds when 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.840 I'm out to dinner too. It's I don't know if 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:26.240 you know this, but you're not the only one in 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.719 the restaurant. Turn the volume down. If your kid doesn't 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.320 like it, tell them they'll you'll throw the iPad in 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.360 the pool if they raise us. Think about it. Things 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.879 be fun anyway. The type of person who listens to 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.359 music loudly on their phone, facetimes with other people on 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:44.280 their phone, gets on speakerphone on their phone. You see 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.359 this with all kinds of different people in our society. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.359 You'll see some older people who do this, and people 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.760 love to make excuses for them. Nope, it's rude. You've 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.840 lived long enough. You'll see all kinds of dirtball foreigners 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.120 who do this. But it doesn't it doesn't matter who 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.320 does it. It doesn't matter who does it. What I 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:06.320 do is. I simply respond in kind. If I am 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.240 sitting in the airport and you are having a nice 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.280 FaceTime conversation with your kids and your hobby while everyone 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.760 else is just quietly reading a book or browsing on 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.960 their phone or something like that, and I have to 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:23.800 hear no I know, right there behind me. Then well, 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.920 I have music on my phone and you're about to 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:32.919 hear it, and you're about to hear it loudly. This 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.840 mortifies Aubrey, Absolutely mortifies Aubrey. And she thinks I'm just 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.760 doing it out of revenge or spite. But I Am 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:43.280 not just doing it out of revenge or spite. Here's 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:49.480 a fact. People who have learned values over their life, 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.320 and I don't just mean from your parents. Obviously that's 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.359 the most ideal place to learn it. Preferably it starts 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.359 at home. But people who have had crappy upbringings have 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:03.600 acquired values from other plays a boy, scouts, military whatever, 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.159 a great coach, a mentor, or a church or something. 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:13.040 People who have learned right and wrong values, consideration for 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:19.919 other people throughout their lives. They learned it. It is 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:28.440 a learned behavior. Considering others is learned behavior. But if 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:32.760 some people have learned it, it's an obvious point that 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:39.320 some other people have not learned it. They whatever reason, 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.199 never learned that the world doesn't revolve around them, that 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:54.080 you should actually consider other people in your daily life. Therefore, somebody, somehow, 0:21:55.000 --> 0:22:01.680 some way has to educate them that there are other 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:06.280 people and that what you're doing, if it is disruptive 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:10.840 to others, well it is disruptive to others. How in 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:15.879 the world am I going to teach that couple facetiming 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:19.520 their puppies. How am I supposed to teach them that 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:25.120 it's rude except by responding in kind? Uh, you want 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.000 to have that loud conversation with your boyfriend for ten 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:31.000 minutes while we all wait at the gate, then please 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.840 enjoy some led Zeppelin's greatest hits. I'm gonna dial it 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:38.359 up on my phone and you can enjoy some lovely 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.840 music while you were on there. And you know what, 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:43.840 they might not learn in that moment. They might not 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:47.280 I admit that don't get at people are generally don't 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.639 get it people, and they'll never get it. I understand that. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:53.120 But there is a chance you have to admit there 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:57.040 is a chance that in that moment the light bulb 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.800 goes on, because what's their first reaction going to be, 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.159 I'm on the phone, And then what's that? Is he 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:06.520 playing Stairway to Heaven? How can he do that? I'm 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:13.560 on the phone. Oh oh, I don't want to hear 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.560 Stairway to Heaven, So he probably doesn't want to hear 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:22.879 me argue with my boyfriend on speakerphone. I get it now, 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:32.240 I'm being rude. I will stop this behavior. Rude people 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:40.040 have to be taught. Selfish, unaware, self centered people have 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:44.200 to be taught. But beyond that, back to you, somebody 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:49.280 throwing trash in your trash can, that's a trash human being, 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.119 if you will pardon the pun. That is a human 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:56.479 being who thinks the world revolves around them. I guarantee you, 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.240 I bet you one thousand dollars that person is a 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.120 thief in some way way in their life. The type 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.119 of person who would do that is a type of 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.399 person who would steal your stuff. Oh he left his 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.040 CDs sitting there. I think I'll take his CD. That 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.320 is the type of person who would steal your stuff. 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.400 And don't think that you're the first person whoever had 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.680 their trash can invaded by that person's trash. I bet 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:20.000 you they take their trash every single trash day and 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.800 drive all over town and look for an unaccompanied trash 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.000 can and dump it in there. Why not. The world 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.399 revolves around me. I don't have any rules. I'll do 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.720 whatever I want. So if they get called into the 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:38.120 boss's office and reprimanded and or fired, you may say 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.960 that's over the top for the dumping of a trash bag. 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:45.480 I would argue, there is a chance, not a guarantee. 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.719 There is a chance you just taught that person a 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:54.439 valuable lesson about life no one else ever did, and 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.000 that's not your fault. I wish she had a father 0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:03.040 who had taught him that, a coach whatever. I went, sorry, Chris, 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:07.359 a rabbi whatever. I wish someone somewhere along the way 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:13.480 had taught that person values. But they didn't. Now it's 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.320 up to you, what Chris it is. I have a 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:21.320 great teacher. This is how you teach people things. It 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:26.880 is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Wednesday. 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.840 We're gonna get to foundational principles from the Communists in 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:34.040 just a moment. Before we get to that, though, really 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:38.240 quickly here. Jewish producer Chris asked during the break, can 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.840 I fling the dog poo they left on the lawn 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:46.760 at their door. Well, here's the thing. Remember, it's not 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:52.720 really about revenge, all right. The goal is we want 0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:56.160 everybody to wake up. The goal is a wake up, 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.679 not revenge. It's an important distinction, all right, That's an 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:07.880 important distinction. Therefore, an appropriate escalation is good. In my situation, 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.200 somebody's playing music on their phone. I don't walk over 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.520 to them, grab their phone, smash it on the ground 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.840 and punch them in the nose. That is yeah, that's 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:20.760 what I want to do. Yes, of course, but I 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:24.840 don't do that. Now. You're talking about revenge, and that's 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:31.200 that's not an attempt at education, at painful education. If 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.679 the neighbor's dog is pooping on your yard, taking the 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:38.960 poop and throwing it at their front door is not 0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:44.879 an appropriate education. What would be an appropriate education is 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:49.199 your pet's poop goes in their front yard. I, in 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.520 case you're wondering, I have done this multiple times in 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.320